The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise but it had some decent ideas and a good story. I'm not holding my breath but maybe they'll actually make an attempt to make a decent game.
>They better not dick with the soundtrack. They'd better. Butt rock sucks. You can do so much more nowadays music wise with a vampire thriller.
Adam Robinson
For normies who've never played it, the game sucks. I didn't mind the shit.
Ryan Wilson
Heard Rik Schaffer is on board Also how is it near unplayable? Fucking zoomers
Jose Reed
What? 2077 has never been on pre order.
David Allen
Literally everyone involved with the first game who matters is back on the sequel faggot
WoD was always SJW shit The original Bloodlines was made by SJWs and is full of SJW shit and it was good despite that
You spergs would be shitting on the first game if it came out today
Oliver Torres
Haha you should honestly kill yourself if you're defending anything past hollywood
James Jackson
>first game is near unplayable
It's a faithful sequel with a passionate developer team of fans, the lead writer of the first game and the original composer. So no, seethe harder and look for somewhere else to be triggered and outraged
Fuck off back to r/gaming/retardera you waste of fucking oxygen.
Wyatt Collins
>gamestop.ie
You're really reaching now
Luke Watson
The studio has fucking nothing under it's belt. No track record, they've literally just bought a brand name to trade on.
I'd love for it to be good but we've seen nothing of the actual game and a big ambitious RPG is hardly what I'd call a safe bet for a new studio to tackle.
I'm expecting it to be bad but would love to be wrong.
Jason Davis
I never understood the door meme, maybe I never played an early enough build but the unofficial patch without 'plus' has never had me stuck on a door or anywhere else I needed to noclip out of.
Daniel Butler
Too lazy to go on Gamestop.com yourself and search it? I promise, it's there.
Samuel Young
>gameplay was garbage t. filtered by zombies
Benjamin Collins
>The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise but it had some decent ideas and a good story. It's a bog standard FPS with stats and dialogue. You're a complete fucking mong if that's where you draw the line.
Alexander Lewis
We do know that they are passionate fans that jumped on the opportunity to make the game, putting a lot of money into development before even having a meeting with Paradox just because they wanted to impress them. I can think of worse hands it could be in, you can atleast genuinely tell that they want to make a faithful sequel and that fans of the original game are at the forefront of their thoughts.
Justin Nguyen
They won't do that, though. Games aren't made for the people who care about them, they're made to sell to fucking normies.
You're delusional if you think for even a moment that's not how the industry works. That's why sequels will always, always disappoint.
Jeremiah Wilson
I needed to noclip through the end of the museum mission because the game bug and the guard never dropped the key card. That was with the patch obviously. Noclip is more often a sanity defense for the painfully large and repetitive labyrinth levels.
Aiden Taylor
>Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
Chase Young
Every single thing I've seen mentioned so far is complete pandering to the old fans so I think this game is going to be different from the usual sequel bs. Good things can happen user, it's only an AA game which means less pressure to change things for mass audiences. This game can be niche and successful at the same time like Persona 5
William Morales
>Also how is it near unplayable? Fucking zoomers Unplayable is hyperbole, but the gameplay doesn't compare favorably to other first-person RPGs like Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Dark Messiah.
>it's only an AA game which means less pressure to change things for mass audiences. This game can be niche and successful at the same time like Persona 5
>AA >Persona 5
It had a longer development time and bigger development team than Skyrim.
It also wasn't made for a western audience. By Japanese standards, it's not niche by any means.
Daniel Cruz
No, development team for Persona 5 was only ever around 70 people in one building and Skyrim had over 100 people, those credits are completely misleading. Also Persona 5 is AA by definition and Skyrim was AAA
Owen James
>those credits are completely misleading >but these random numbers about the team sizes I just pulled out of my ass are completely reliable
>Also Persona 5 is AA by definition and Skyrim was AAA Only by virtue of Skyrim's massive marketing budget. In terms of development cost, Persona 5 certainly cost more to make.
Wyatt Gray
The game is still far from niche, even if your arbitrary ranking system was applicable here.
To call it a niche game is laughably silly.
It's release number like #50 in one of the most popular game franchises in Asia. The series has fucking spinoff rhythm Arcade games.
Isaac Torres
>jab at Republican in 2004 is SJW
Get out of my sight retard
Michael Green
>Persona 5 >Niche >Atlus >Tie in anime >Tie in manga >Dancing Spinoff
Wyatt Martin
Rik Schaffer is making the soundtrack, but I'm not really expecting the quality of the first Bloodlines game soundtrack-wise. Like the dude himself said, that was a different time in his life, he was practically a character from the game, the circumstances just happened to be right.
Telekinesis is one of the 3 branches of thinblood powers
Alexander White
>Ghostbusters remake of video games That's actually not a bad comparison.
Jacob Bennett
How?
Brandon Mitchell
why the fug do thinbloods even get powers? you telling me that stuttering retard i killed in santa monica could have yeeted me into the ocean with his mind?
Bentley Howard
No, they are developed skills, and are very limited. He would have to learn it first. The highest level of telekinesis to thinbloods only allows weapons to be pulled from the hands of weaker entities.
Connor Brooks
I wonder what kind of music it'll be
Luke Long
It's been 15 years, the man has probably grown talent or changed his style since then. You're taking that quote out of context.
Ryan Morales
Meant for
Leo Morgan
No, I mean what genre will they go for. blood 1 had a lot of post-rock/trip hop kinds of ambient which were popular around the time, wondering where they'll go with 2
Nolan Brooks
Well if the trailer music is anything to go by, some dark electronic shit. The trailer music gives pretty great vibes though.
It's going to come across as an entirely different game because of how much things have changed in games since the initial release. It's not going to be terrible, but chances are it's going to just be all right and not particularly amazing.
Andrew Bell
so we're pretending the gameplay in VTMB was good now?
I felt bad about killing him but the Masquerade is important. I ain't no cammy cuck though.
Nathan Jackson
it seems to be just a thing that contextualizes game progression and fits in the lore considering the increasing number of thinbloods in the world and the big vampire terror attack that starts the game. At worst youll be a thinblood for a relatively short time and just be a weak shit for a while, at best theres a compelling reason for diablerie and the experience of a thinblood is dramatically different from a fully blooded clan member (cant take any sunlight at all and lose some powers in exchange for a greater physical powers and clan abilities)
people have gotten so reactionary that they cant accept that vtmb could have flaws or that 2 might be good That or they just remember their late game gangrel build and think thats the whole game
Justin Parker
I bought the first one on gog for something like 3 bucks some months ago and never played it. It is worth it? I read that this crap aged like milk but i dunno.
Thoughts?
Ayden Ortiz
i expect thinbloods to be a jack-of-all-trades kinda shit. access to a lot of disciplines, but they all cap out pretty early, plus a malus in interactions with other vamps because they think of you as inferior
Xavier Walker
Forced to pick a clan later, dork
Luis Hernandez
Who /Malkavian/ here? >get access to the OP madness network which allows you know shit weeks and even months before it happens >can jump into other Malks in the network and control them if you train hard enough >can even upload your mind into the network and basically become immortal truly the best clan. insanity is a small price to pay
Hudson Miller
I know 2-3 people on the dev team, and it sounds like the game is gonna be pretty tight if they deliver on the current vision. Hopefully producers don't get in the way.
Jayden Morris
Why are you expecting something that's already been announced as untrue?
Mason Cox
>pick a clan wat, how do you "pick a clan"? arent you tied to whatever your sire is? are they gonna have a diablerie scene for each different clan?
Elijah Turner
It's a year out, it's not in pre production anymore you shitty larper. The publishers have already gotten their greasy hands on it.
Gavin Davis
>The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise Idiot shill. Kill yourself.
The community assumption is diablerie. We have nothing other than "you get to pick your clan later on rather than at the start." Don't know how much later or how it will happen.
Luis Russell
this shits about to be 4/10
Hudson Perez
okay Yea Forums you convinced me to try the first game, what class should i use for zoomer difficulty? also what mods to make the game work, i dont think i played any game from the pre-2000 era
>unplayable is this what zoomers unironically think? top fucking kek
Matthew Lewis
The devs had a "near final boss that takes more ammo to kill than you could possibly hold in your whole inventory" quota
Sebastian Fisher
>i dont think i played any game from the pre-2000 era This isn't one either man. Go Tremere with guns if you want to face roll tho.
Gavin Turner
please do tell, been out of the loop for a while. i remember early on that they said that you start out as a thinblood but get to upgrade to full vamp at a certain point early on, but given how phrased it, and the fact that thinblood takes out one of the 5 slots on the site i though they basically said that thinbloods are basically a separate clan
Henry Hill
No, the shit idea is forcing people to pick a clan at the start without fully introducing them to what each clan represents. It's objectively worse gameplay design.
Anthony Hill
Thank you!
Cooper Adams
Sounds like you get triggered when people point out that you're a snowflake
the clan synopsis at the start of vtmb was completely fine for getting a basic rundown of the clan. finding out more by talking to members of each clan was also fine.
having you picking a clan is retarded snowflake material and is par for the course with the devs
Levi Jones
Caitiff are kind of a "clan" on their own, so Thin Bloods being a clan isn't too far out of the box, but it's still not super accurate. I was referring to your jack of all trades coment with many disciplines as also being incorrect. Thin Bloods in this game will have access to the 3 branches, one for bat control, one for mist/stealth, and one for telekinesis. These are in detail on the website. All vampires have the auspex aura reading thing from the fifth edition. There's nothing outside of this for thin bloods, unless they change something. Thin bloods being a "clan" is just the introduction of the game before you join a real clan. There is no "thin blood" playthrough possible that we know of. The contention with this is the logical assumption that we will be forced to commit diablerie in order to join a clan. There are 5 playable clans in bloodlines 2, thin bloods are not one of them.
Isaac Anderson
hurrrr
Jackson Johnson
please see
Benjamin Harris
I cheese 90% of fights because the NPCs get stuck in walls but fighting makes up a small % of the game. The main content of the game is the dialog and decision making, which is totally playable and even very good compared to a lot of other RPGs.
Landon Nelson
>snowflake material wot?
Jace Cruz
Yes that is the post I referenced in the post you just referenced. Thanks for confirming you are autistic, chum.
>the clan synopsis at the start of vtmb was completely fine for getting a basic rundown of the clan No it absolutely wasn't. >having you picking a clan is retarded snowflake material and is par for the course with the devs Agreed, but once again, paragraph intros for clans are a fucking garbage way to make a game. Forcing you into a mary sue position is bad too, but it's one of the two turds they went with. Don't defend vtmb's character creation as being acceptable by any current standard. Like I said before, it is objectively shit design.
Ethan Gray
>im a thinblood but i can pick any clan because im special!
you left out the second part, which is experiencing clan members themselves through interactions. the synopsis was to give you a brief inkling of what you were going to get. which is fine
Evan Taylor
Wubstep
Landon Cruz
Why?
Carter Young
i checked my Paradox account and apparently the amount of blood increased i dunno if it's because i dicked around with the tinder parody app though
Levi Hall
>what is diablerie
Lincoln Russell
I only left it out to not bloat the post. I understand everything that you're saying, and I still believe you are objectively wrong.
Carter Sanchez
Oh got it. Do zoomers really not think devs come to Yea Forums? I know plenty of devs who come to Yea Forums to either: >poke fun at retards that don't understand at all how games are made >Actually look for inspiration.
I have actually suggested, gotten approval for, and implemented a feature I read about on Yea Forums. So ya know, if you're not a retarded zoomer, know that we are out here.
Connor Edwards
That would be the reason
William Morgan
>The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger. I unironically hope you die Paracocks nigger shill.
Jace Moore
>toxic masculine fantasies" lol, they never fucking said that. They even have Jeanette's outfit as a preorder incentive. Stop pulling shit out of your ass
Kevin Russell
Can't wait to play as Based Rudi
Nicholas Cruz
yup, my bad, i remembered there being 5 clans including thinbloods
That user is wrong but a thin blood committing diablerie is still a bit out there.
Evan Butler
SJW shit game. Not hyped at all.
Nice try though redditspacer.
Nathan Lopez
embarrassing
Julian Jackson
larp harder please
Aaron Jenkins
why do chicks like VTM so much?
Grayson Campbell
he's not even claiming to be someone else, retard. how is it samefagging?
Gabriel Powell
Far as I understand, it's held as a reward for loyalty in V5. The prince can allow diablerie of a condemned vampire, and that is incentive for thinbloods
William Long
Remember Twilight?
Alexander Flores
Dude, it was like that since the early 2000s and Twilight fan weren't even born yet
Camden Bennett
Oh yea, good point. I guess that makes the whole thing quite simple.
Zachary Gomez
I just want an ending where I can be Blade and hunt vampires with some Hunter bros. Is there any chance at all for that to happen?
Noah Davis
I'm not aaying they come from Twilight but just that it shares appeal.
Evan Fisher
Could be an expansion, actually. Not base game though.
Henry Moore
girls like goth, power, vampires are the epitome of both of these.
plus girls are more prone to have an affinity with language and interaction with other people, so that plays into it too
Thomas Young
Yikes
zoom zoom
Lincoln King
>Imagine being this much of a tranny faggot. Im currently replaying the game all the characters are steretypes of their respective race/nationality also so far before the frist major quest, that btw its about a bipolar/split personality that was raped by daddy as kid and then shotgunned the guy in the head, i have heard one or two tranny jokes. So yeah o dobout the game its going to have that kind of interesting suversive content, because your so called SJW crod. Hell the original its probably way tooo sexist for them.
Eli Nguyen
What makes you think that anything in 1 couldn't be represented in 2?
Charles Johnson
Because Paradox is the publisher
Connor Nguyen
I think Mitsoda said that the original pitch went smoothly and without contention from Paradox.
Henry Harris
It's going to be 1) Toreador 2) Ventrue 3) Brujah 4) Tremere 5) Nosferatu screencap this post.
Which explains why nothing from Bloodlines will be replicated It'd be too problematic
Elijah Flores
The first Bloodlines was better than you make it out to be, Op. It was clunky, sure, but even in its unfinished state Source contributed a lot to the game. Most importantly, the physics engine. Sending your enemies flying with your claws was great. Gibs were great too. There's a lot of things that were done right in Bloodlines 1.
Michael Wilson
my point being that back then you couldn't convince a chick to play AD&D at all, but if you explained VTM they might give it a try, even if it was the cringiest shit ever look at Brian Mitsoda, he uses fingerless gloves! maybe it started with Interview With A Vampire (the movie), I don't know
Dominic Ramirez
That's why they're having Jeantte's outfit as a predorder, right? Because of SJWs? What about the big tits vampire in the trailer?
Zachary Thompson
That would be Mitsoda's doing then
Brayden Clark
>look at Brian Mitsoda, he uses fingerless gloves! That's how you know he's the right guy for the job
Benjamin Turner
Name one game in the current gen that has content like that and wasnt called of for being racist/biggoted/sexist or called out fro NOT being inclusibe enought. I know we are not going to have the sexy whores walking around almost naked. I wonder how much postmodernist marxist bullshit are they going to shove into our mouths. >Which explains why nothing from Bloodlines will be replicated >It'd be too problematic >problematic Annon nails the reason in just one word
>fat whore titites >big Are you a virgin? >That's why they're having Jeantte's outfit as a predorder, right? Thats because they want your money before they have an actual game that will or will not probably bomb you fuckign retarded moron.
Liam Clark
You are just as overly pessimistic as the SJW are complaining fucks. reserve judgement for when it's released. The only thing we've seen so far is a big tiddy vampire, so you should wait and observe
Gavin Sullivan
>mfw plebs near me who aren't Tremere blood sorcerers Imagine not wanting to be a magic nigga in WoD. Imagine relying on guns and blades like so greasy mortal.
Not just the humor. Everything about it is very early 2000's "mature" video game. The video game developers of that era were "dude bros" who loved big tits, skimpy outfits, violence and other "bro" things. Do you think the developers of today are like that, Paracock shill? Especially one sponsored by Paracocks? >b-b-but muh outfit It's there as a legacy thing to make money. The game is going to be full of leftist shit, just like every rpg is now because video game devs of today are NOT the ones from 20 years ago.
Thomas Rodriguez
FUCK anarchs and FUCK camarilla.
Cooper Harris
>Are you a virgin? What in the name of fuck does that have to do with anything. >Thats because they want your money before they have an actual game that will or will not probably bomb you fuckign retarded moron. Why not both? Stop spergging out
Matthew Ward
>being a literal jew (((clan))) that had to force its way into Camarilla through smear campaign against the only non-monster clan >Tremere getting btfo by Saulot
By 2004 standards, certainly. Also I don't think the criticisms levelled at vtmb are usually in regards to the physics engine. If the sum of your experience is mandated by a game's physics, the way you talk about it might be fine, but the main criticisms about vtmb gameplay-wise are the stiff numbers shooting, shitty and repetitive combat levels, and unfinished content. Most of these last two are only in the latter half of the game, but it's still not forgiveable. It detracts from the experience heavily. From a game design standpoint, most of the things about the game that were done right were pulled from VTM or the original writing.
Cameron Gonzalez
>VTMB threads on Yea Forums >Million people mention the haunted house >Think that's the only "spooky" thing >mfw the prosthetic limb store >mfw the Malkavian mansion >mfw the Tzimisce fleshcrafter mansion
The times were different, yes. That does not mean that the experience is unable to be replicated today. I don't know anythign about the developer, so I'm not particularly fearful or optimistic about them .What have they done that has convinced you that they'll fuck it up? >Paracock shill Are you kidding me, user >The game is going to be full of leftist shit What is the proof?
Anthony Reyes
>vampires >magic >laughing mages.jpg
Andrew Reed
>Imperator going down in the water >Battletech dlc releasing way too late to make an impact Will Paradox die before VTMB2 comes out?
Aaron Kelly
How could I be hype about a game that's over a year from release and already selling day-1 DLC?
but that is just gore, the mansion has scripted spoopy stuff
Jose Lewis
Thin-blood disciplines are going to be mutually exclusive. And you'll retain your initial thin-blood discipline when you diablerize a clan of your choosing.
The game looks like bioshock and apparently thinbloods are a clan now but also you can become another clan. That makes total sense it's not like the first thing is false and the second can only be accomplished by the vampire equivalent of murderrapecannibalism which would never fly with these stronk female devs so they just made/make shit up. I can't wait for all my nigger/gay/trans npcs and shit dialogue by a no name company
Brandon Baker
Nah, just means they need to dedicate more to VTMB2. I'm honestly surprised the level of marketing they're doing for this.
Chase Reed
the first girl is an ex cdpr person so she actually has some relationship to the industry
Jeremiah Gray
It's so fucking weird seeing this dance in the ballroom at the luxury houses
Christian Johnson
>The game looks like bioshock wot? There isn't even any gameplay or in-engine footage >apparently thinbloods are a clan now but also you can become another clan. thinblood have always been their own thing. They had exclusive disciplines, far as I know >can only be accomplished by the vampire equivalent of murderrapecannibalism which would never fly with these stronk female devs What in the name of fuck are you talking about. Now the SJWs are gunning for diablerie? Fuck off. Besides which, if you were to diablerie in the story, then that means that it's Mike writing it, not some stronk female dev
Liam Myers
She's also a retard
Elijah Perez
>Anyone else kinda hype? Im not tranny, sorry. BTFO from Yea Forums now,
It was. VTMB threads are only good when the name isn't mentioned in the OP
Nathan Cox
That's the point. Grit in the high life.
Angel Jenkins
Thats the reason i didint said it will certainly bomb. And im not being overly pessimistic its just how works now days with devs picking up IP and making a pretty and nice product that sells well, its accesible and its politically correct. The original game its a passion proyect, sold like shit and still its one of the best rpgs ever made. And as i said before, i was playing the game last night and almost all of the dialog would be considered politically incorrect nowdays.
So yeah we will see, i honestly want a sequel to that game but you know one has to be carefull with monkey paws. >Muh sperg XDD Kys mongolid.
Jaxon Bell
Any good? I really need some infusion of decent vampire media and there's a lack of those in more modern times.
>the mansion has scripted spoopy stuff >spoopy that place Its a fuckign surreal trip, what the fuck are you talking about nigger.
Cooper Torres
Think it's more likely they didn't have time to make another dance animation, but sure. It was clearly meant to juxtapose the status some vampires like the ventrue and toreador hold for themselves and the beast they desperately try to hide inside of themselves.
Dominic Ward
>Toreador at risk of not being a playable clan is this the manlet uprising?
Have you just never seen the goth dance memes? This is how ravers "danced" in the early 2000's, doubly so for the goth ones. The ballroom is because vampires take the finer things. Don't be a brainlet user.
Nicholas Morales
Toreador are the least likely risk of being cut. Brujah, Toreador, Ventrue, and Tremere are basically confirmed by the placeholder image when you click the bubbles on the website. 5th is likely Nosferatu but I'm still not 100% on it.
Jose Morgan
>interesting ARG that culminates in a cool release event >good announcement to release window >large amounts of the original team returning >free clans post release If it wasnt for the special edition bullshit I'd say Paradox was making a reverse heel turn
Zachary Peterson
>3 hours late You guys lost some steam there?
Evan Morris
>wot? There isn't even any gameplay or in-engine footage Yes there is, the guy is using the bat ability and it literally has the same art and animation look as bioshock >thinblood have always been their own thing. They had exclusive disciplines, far as I know Yeah thinbloods are their own thing but they aren't a fucking clan they're just weird byproducts of blood fuckage. They can create new disciplines but not every thinblood gets these disciplines nor is it a special trait known only to them, so not a fucking clan >What in the name of fuck are you talking about. Now the SJWs are gunning for diablerie? Fuck off. Besides which, if you were to diablerie in the story, then that means that it's Mike writing it, not some stronk female dev I'm talking about how a SJW infested game is not gonna have your character do something to gain power that literal monsters find unnerving when women cry about rape from men talking to them. These are the same people saying they have to approach Malks lightly because mental illness is super cereal guys! The only way to gain any significant power would be diablerie and since that's off the table they're gonna fuck with established lore how they see fit
Cooper Baker
Weird, I find VTMB more playable after the fan patch than Deus Ex.
Bentley Ross
Jews are white when its convenient, look at Harvey Weinstein
Sebastian Martinez
At rhe very least if it fails we can't say it was the fault of Paradox not trying hard enough. That thinblood intro was pretty great. It seems like they're really trying to make it into a big thing.
Christopher Martinez
I mean, do you really want to risk having the Lasombra in the game, given all the ways this could go wrong? Not to mention, if they're using V5 as basis for clans and disciplines, Lasombra are getting fucked outright in Chicago By Night, first by getting Obtenebration mixed with some Necromancy, and renaming it into Oblivion, and second by having them subject themselves to the Ventrue and Camarilla.
Kind of hard to listen to anyone saying otherwise when so many complainers never even put any points on combat stats and that's why they're complaining. Game balance gets thrown off at some parts later on but I always found the gameplay itself fun for the most part.
Maybe you just didn't pay attention and sucked at playing.
Gabriel Young
I'd agree with you but looking at that webm, I might just be playing Deus Ex wrong
Nicholas King
But vampires become progressively more pale as they age
Parker Davis
>Maybe you just didn't pay attention and sucked at playing. user, runescape unironically has deeper combat than vtmb.
Ethan Martinez
>Yes there is, the guy is using the bat ability and it literally has the same art and animation look as bioshock How is that gameplay or in-engine footage? And what kind of art and animation are you talking about? I've never seen the like in Bioshock >Yeah thinbloods are their own thing but they aren't a fucking clan they're just weird byproducts of blood fuckage. They can create new disciplines but not every thinblood gets these disciplines nor is it a special trait known only to them, so not a fucking clan That's true. Are the devs calling it a clan? >I'm talking about how a SJW infested game is not gonna have your character do something to gain power that literal monsters find unnerving when women cry about rape from men talking to them That's a stretch, user. >The only way to gain any significant power would be diablerie and since that's off the table they're gonna fuck with established lore how they see fit How is that off the table? Because you've made the decision that the faceless SJW devs don't like the diablerie of vampires? You do realize that it is Mike that decides what goes in the main story. You think he'll be fucking with the lore?
Zachary Morales
I wanna seduce people again. They better not be cut
Camden Smith
I think that's partially just someone who knows the game in and out, and having high shooting skill.
Noah Green
>lilith bitchslaps Caine >God bitchslaps Lilith 7 times harder
>that pic wouldn't that tattoo just disappear after a nap?
Luke Rogers
I don't know where from, but one user said they were planning one surprise clan.
Dominic Diaz
I really want to see VTMB go from that cult classic that everyone has heard of but not played to a strong singleplayer mainstay with a good amount of influence on the industry Paradox improving would be icing on the cake
Nathaniel Morales
Tzitmisce
Ryder Smith
You're retarded
Easton Young
>Yes there is, the guy is using the bat ability and it literally has the same art and animation look as bioshock
Memes aside that snuff shit leading up to the mansion was absolutely fucked.
Luke Bell
Mello was such a faggot
Josiah Moore
IIRC, there's ways of making it stick, so long as you're not a Nosferatu. I think it might involve Tzimisce. Or maybe that's from Requiem, I genuinely can't remember right now.
Robert Brooks
yes, the press will manupulate you into thinking its art, Yea Forums will manipulate you into thinking its trash, the honest one will be your mom
Carter Rodriguez
>sabbat Ventrue more of a low effort addition than a surprise
Anthony Myers
>tfw you get deleted by God in one of the bad ends
Lucas Russell
Both of the 2 detectives after L died were bad. People who say L shouldn't have died or Light should have won are retards. L should have died, and Light should have failed, but Light's destruction should have been to his own undoing and madness, not to a placeholder autistic child.
Joseph Johnson
First of all, she doesn't have big tits. Second, she's ugly.
Jackson Williams
>How is that gameplay or in-engine footage? And what kind of art and animation are you talking about? I've never seen the like in Bioshock It's literally the bee plasmid just replaced with bats, it's been a while but I'm pretty sure the hand animation it literally the exact same. People even commented when that came around as looking like bioshock. It's ingame footage because it's game play footage, can't have one without the other. Thee game is a year away if that's what it looks like now don't expect a massive upgrade for a rando studio >That's true. Are the devs calling it a clan? bloodlines2.com/en/thinblood Literally the only thing under clans right now >That's a stretch, user. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but that's how I see it >How is that off the table? Because you've made the decision that the faceless SJW devs don't like the diablerie of vampires? You do realize that it is Mike that decides what goes in the main story. You think he'll be fucking with the lore? Because 15 years is damn long time and I have zero faith in this industry anymore. Most good devs and writers left a long time ago or were pushed out by these bullshit artist trying to make a buck and push agendas. Also it was co developed alongside 5th edition and uses that trash as a base so no I don't like it
Liam Price
im ok with this
Hudson Bell
Never trust a v*mpire.
Christian Davis
>The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise
nigga PUT SOME FUCKING EFFORT INTO YOUR BUILD
FFS
Isaiah Miller
It was just a gay shoehorn to make sure the good guys win. Ignore everything after L's death like I do and the series is p good.
Ian Nelson
>WoD was always SJW shit
no it wasn't and you know that
>The original Bloodlines is full of SJW shit
no it isn't and you know that
WHY.jpg is Yea Forums so full of contrarians?
Robert Morales
Maybe, but it's within the possibilities of what they reasonably could have meant by "surprise." Lasombra also have stealth elements if I remember correctly, so that could help fit the other 4 that are basically confirmed. Again, idk where the other user heard this. I still think Nosferatu is the most logical 5th for a stealth fit but I don't think they would labek Nosf as a "surprise"
>It's literally the bee plasmid just replaced with bats First off, sending out bats as a weapon is something that was thought of before fucking Bioshock. Second off, this is just an animated trailer. There are no animations from the game in there. >People even commented when that came around as looking like bioshock You're the first I've seen making that parallel >It's ingame footage because it's game play footage Oh, you've been fucking shitposting this entire time? It's not gameplay footage. I genuinely can't tell if you don't know what gameplay or in-engine footage means, or if you're fucking with me
Jaxon Fisher
>Also it was co developed alongside 5th edition and uses that trash as a base so no I don't like it That doesn't mean you'll get the same kind of writing. The fact that Rudi was a character in V5 doesn't mean anything for the game
Easton Bailey
If the game was released today, you'd call the bitch in club confession an SJW. She literally uses the word misogynistic
Hunter Myers
>near unplayable
Is that why I've beaten it like 5 times?
Nathaniel Adams
Play it I was in the same boat as you and it was the first game in ages I stayed up past 4am to complete
Leo Cook
There are people that chop off their own dick as they orgasm because they enjoy it.
Hudson James
Use the console when you start feeling like your brain cells are being destroyed.
Noah Kelly
The first game's gameplay is serviceable enough, I don't see why anyone besides zoomer babies would complain about it. At some points I actually enjoy it, depending on what class I'm playing.
Eli Smith
>"To reflect modern values we've had to make the decision to not let players feed on female characters or otherwise harm them*(*may not always apply to story critical characters) nor are the players allowed to "charm" them through discipline use or any other means such as wealth, authority or outdated methods of seduction"
Asher Ward
>Lasombra also have stealth elements if I remember correctly Are you sure? I thought they had presence dominate and some other shit just like Ventrue I was mostly taking the piss when I was poo pooing the idea but I honestly dont think they are that different from Ventrue
Nolan Hughes
whoa that's like the same thing basically
Tyler Torres
They're antagonistic with the Ventrue but I thought they had shadow powers or something.
Alexander Walker
>ignores half my points every time >try to be reasonable and respond anyway >I'm shitposting because you've never seen the comparison even though it's been in every thread with the webm and literally anyway the video has been posted even the source
You know what fuck you man, yeah they totally got us. Made a whole game engine just to make a 10 sec clip of bats swarming a guy for a video teaser! Clearly the real game won't look this shit! It doesn't literally say gameplay at the bottom or anything like that! What a great prank bro!
Jace Jackson
Really makes you thunk
Joshua Butler
>game tells you to put points in combat stats >someone still tries to go 100% social >"wtf this game sucks" happens more often than you think
Nathan James
>ignores half my points every time That's because I don't really have much to say about your other points, user >I'm shitposting because you've never seen the comparison even though it's been in every thread with the webm and literally anyway the video has been posted even the source user, do you even know what video you're talking about. There's NO gameplay footage yet. there is NO in-engine footage yet, aside from a couple of pictures. I have never seen anyone saying that the bat ability reminded them of the bees in Bioshock. The mere idea that sending out animals as a form of attack is somehow exclusive to Bioshock is beyond retarded, buddy. How such a trivial fucking thing could get you to actually make it a talking point is beyond my comprehension
Colton Howard
It should tho, I want Rudi to be in the game and player to join his crusade.
Tyler King
y tho
Leo Peterson
The Followers of Rudi is going to be the new 5th clan
Actually, now that I think on it; What is this bat ability that you're talking about? If we're talking the animated thinblood trailer, then only telekinesis was showcased
Asher Davis
I've realized that Rudi's great. We call ourselves BRudis.
Brayden Price
whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Lasombra so their clan curse is that they have no reflection and they do have presence and dominate like I thought but they have oblivion which lets them manipulate and move through shadows So potentially pretty stealthy
Joshua Davis
Oh, fuck, user. I hadn't seen that part of the trailer. I always turned it off before that. Sorry, dude.But, that doesn't look anything at all like the bee ability
I want this if only so it could pave the way for promethean, changeling the dreaming and hunter being pushed forward with some god tier rpgs
Luke Miller
That's it. I'm pulling Malkavian from the game. No more making fun of mental disabilities. Go to hell.
Eli Hernandez
Yes that's what I was talking about. Most people said it looked quite bioshockesque when a better quality/sized webm of that scene popped up here and everywhere else. I wasn't trying to say bioshock invented this but it looks rather similar and the bees are the best example of this as both as swarms.
Isaiah Gomez
> politics and social justice will be the main focus of bloodlines 2
Adrian Thomas
Beside it being a swarm of animals that stuns, it doesn't really have much in common
Hunter Wilson
>politics and social justice will be the main focus of bloodlines threads
Ayden Torres
which clans/antitribu are the most based?
Cooper Cook
> schizophrenic Why cant americans pronounce this german word correctly?
>tfw played through VTMB recently >tfw fucked up sleep schedule >tfw 80-90% of my playthrough was played between 12am-4am with sleep deprivation anywhere from 1 day to 40 hours. Get on my immersion level plebs
Precisely. The character creation they have now makes sense, pick a human background, appearance etc. You're thrust into the world as a newly embraced thinblood. It naturally makes sense that learning about the vampire world should come with playing the game, both for the player and his/her character. Asking for somebody to decide something that should affect the whole gameplay experience just as they enter it is terrible. If anything doing it this way opens up opportunity for more distinction between playthroughs.
I loved the old selection but I hope we get more different clans. How much in total plus the free clans do you think we will get?
Dominic Adams
Depends how well the game sells
Blake Scott
Anyone complaining about "muh SJWs taking over Bloodlines 2" is a brainlet who didn't play the original game or the tabletop.
The original game shit all over Bush and no one gave a shit, but replace the Bush references with Trump and I guarantee everyone would cry about it being "too political"
The original game literally featured a faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill led by a Hispanic who lived during the Great Depression fighting against the objectively evil wealthy elite LaCroix, while Strauss is basically a non-entity and the Camarilla routinely fuck you over, and no one cared. I guarantee some brainlet is going to step in and mention Bertrand Tung giving a throwaway line or some shit to pretend that the game was "centrist" but if you actually bothered to PLAY THE GAME it's extremely obvious that it's lopsided towards the Anarchs since they regularly save your ass and help you over and over again
The original source material that Bloodlines was based on already featured a female black Muslim lesbian vampire (whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Fatima_al-Faqadi) who was so badass that the Assamites CHANGED THEIR RULES so they could allow women, and no one cared. It also didn't influence the original game, because she never showed up. But everyone complains about Rudi, even though the devs themselves say he isn't going to be in the game
There are zero good arguments for complaining about Bloodlines 2 being "SJW" it's more fake controversy generated by fake nerds who don't even play games.
Nah I am pretty hype OP. I don't preorder and I don't project my hopes and dreams on to projects. But so far it seems quite promising all things considerd. Shame it has to be the newest target of all the GGnewfags and their shitposting. >Literally everyone involved with the first game who matters is back No Boyarsky or Anderson user.... They kinda fucking matter.
Levi Ward
I also agree that livestock shouldn't be held to the same expectation of moral judgement as to self conscious beings.
Benjamin Moore
>tyfw Boyarsky joined Obsidian just too early to hear about the new bloodlines news JUST Also got betrayed by publishers again, maybe it's him that is cursed.
Charles Stewart
>tyfw Boyarsky joined Obsidian just too early to hear about the new bloodlines news I wonder if based on the timing and the relationship Paradox had at the time with Obsidian, Boyarsky came on to work on VTMB 2 and then shit hit the fan, that is why Paradox went with "literally who?" interactive, and now two of three troika founders are making a new IP.
Luis Sanders
this bumps the thread
Hunter Allen
You would have thought considering the two companies were working together at the time on something minor that Obsidian were a more obvious choice, but it seems like Hardsuit Labs made the pitch before Paradox made a decision with how to handle the franchise, the little developer has ballooned in size since the project started.
Matthew Williams
>pre-ordered Blood Moon edition for $22 I wish real life had Torpor mechanics
I guess, I just wonder if the whole Tyranny money thing pissed them off and made them consider. It does seem like Hardsuit was first, so timing doesnt make sense. Its just Obsidian is basically Troika 2.0/ Black Isle 3.0 at this point so I cant see how you wouldnt give them the game.
Aiden Rogers
tourette is cute!
Jace Cooper
what, how?
Xavier Davis
Generally, when a niche turns into a major multimedia franchise, it isn't a fucking niche anymore. That's like saying JRPGs are a niche. In the US, maybe. In Japan, it's just another fucking game.
Jeremiah Young
Absolute low IQ intervention
Juan Gray
It won't sell and it will do so on 2 fronts. The new audience they're going for doesn't actually buy or play videogames. The old audience are pceks, they dont buy games, they pirate. Why do you think the original bombed?
Nolan Hernandez
>be born in a shithole >download Steam >go to VtMB2's page >preorder it for $22 >??? PROFIT! Alternatively you can try moving into one but I strongly recommend against it.
They only bought Half-Life 2 because steam was new and not figured out yet, dummies. And even if they didn't buy HL2 do you really think they would've bought VTMB instead of just pirating it? They are pceks.
Jordan Foster
I quit this game in the Nosferatu Warrens. Fuck that place.
Michael Fisher
How come shitholes get cheap games, but When the CAD drops, games in Canada go from $60 to $80? Not asking for $22. Just $60 CAD.
Josiah Sanders
Paying power of the customer.
Dylan Green
Because you accept that price and pay it.
Daniel Perez
What happens if I play the sequel without ever having played the original?
Charles Morgan
It's in line with the purchasing power. Our shitty currency lost 50% of its value in a year so I can't really afford anything unless the publisher adjust their prices. Whereas in Canada you get NEETbux for being a NEET. Nothing but why the fuck you'd not play the original? It's a cult classic like HoMM3 for a reason.
You get laughed at in the future bloodlines threads.
Jaxson Sullivan
It's a broken piece of garbage.
Brayden Bell
Bad post, it is literally one of the best games of all time.
Luis Hernandez
shitholes pirate a lot because their wages are low and their currency is weak so their companies discount games because they might as well sell at a 75% discount and make a little money as opposed to selling at full price and making no money
Cooper Wright
Why hasn't anybody patched out the sewer levels? That bug hasn't been fixed for whatever reason.
Aiden Reyes
its the one game no one will blame you for noclipping though the second half is pure hot garbage but its still pretty good
Daniel Thompson
Probably nothing. They'd be dumb to demand modern audiences to seek out and play a 20 year old non-functional game.
Just download the unofficial patch you lazy bastard. Get its basic version and voila, you're set. Clan Quest actually has a short questline that allows you to skip it. Go find Bertram after beating Andrei.
>It's in line with the purchasing power. yeah but Canadian Purchasing power is tied to the CAD. When it was stronger than the USD, we still paid $60 CAD. then when it plummeted, prices came up so that it is always the same as $60 USD. Our salaries do not increase with the exchange rate. I get a slight raise to combat inflation, not a fucking 30%+dip in the currency.
Henry Ross
You think I wouldn't play a fucking mage and absolutely shreck everyone in the endgame if I could? Tremere is the closest you get .
I feel you, and Capcom did something similar to that here. They went full jew and made their games cost $90, as if $60 wasn't expensive enough. I pirated both RE2 & DMC5, no regrets.
I know one clan that is gonna feel sorry once an ancient vampire gets bored of toying around and then "The Thing"s them all.
Joseph Watson
>mfw popping fortitude and running through the fire and smacking him to death gangrel fun
Nathaniel Sullivan
oy vey neonate 40% on a bloodloan is a steal
Asher Bennett
Remember that scenario where Tremere Clan tried to dominate humanity and failed horribly?
Nolan Rogers
I wonder how much crossover between splats there will be in this game compared to the first.
Hunter Lee
Good times. Fun times.
Nolan Davis
Doubt there's going to be much, maybe some references here and there, hopefully some side quest relating to the other splat lore.
Cameron Morales
Reminder that no one likes furgrels.
Ethan White
I expect hunters to be a given, werewolves a definite possibility, and others probably not
Aiden Howard
>Tzimisce Freaky looking bitches whose fleshcrafting bows before the might of Tremere Gargolyes
I'll have fun being a chad warlock massacring my enemies in seconds. I was going through shit so fast that I didn't even get why people complained about sewers at the end.
I remember at the time, picking the option that says something akin to "I won't let you have the box" thinking my character would just fucking take the key with them, not open it. I was upset.
Lucas Price
>Malkavian Texture Pack $0.99 >Tremere Texture Pack $0.99 >Nosferatu Texture Pack $0.99 >ect >Add all DLC to cart: $1221
Andrew Hernandez
>everyone forgetting I guarantee you nobody here was even alive or born to even remember this game.
Nicholas Nelson
Not bad and works well with modern systems but everytime I tried to play, it felt like the game was fighting me with the controls and camera.
Nolan Howard
DUDE CHAOS LMAO
Hunter Rogers
Too many problems to be a gem. It has some fantastic moments and atmosphere, though. Wish it was a bit more like Bloodlines and a bit less like Diablo
Joshua Green
Wait, people are saying no Malkavians? Why would they do that?
Carter Watson
There will be one or two references to the previous game is my guess. Nothing in the world actually changes by your actions in the first game. It's not at all essential. If anything, just read the rulebook.
Because one af the first things said was ,we need to be respectful to people with mental illnesses.
No clue what that means in game.
Noah Green
Oh, snap, yeah, I see it.
Thomas Brooks
They spent several minutes in their reveal discussing how they now believe "portrayal of the mentally ill" was bigoted and outdated in VTMB. That should tell you something
Logan Peterson
First door in the game on my first playthrough failed to show up leaving me confused and stuck in the alleyway
Christopher Mitchell
Could be they'll just do insanity more tastefully.
Jack Gutierrez
Did YOU play the tabletop to v5?
Angel Wood
>actually arguing right now about respecting the insane I'm so tired of this honk honk
Lucas Collins
It means the issue will be handled maturely and they wont be charicatures like in the first game.
Christian Ramirez
Huh? Why wouldn't respect the insane? I don't understand.
Gavin Barnes
>playing a giovanni literally the worst clan/bloodline in history
You know how many games went for that matrix, blade etc late 90's early 2000s hype, no game made me feel that more than going after Lacroix turning vampires to ash, wiping my way through his skyscraper and that's after the game fell apart mid way, a lot of the old team are working on this with loads of new tech at their disposal, I'm pretty excited desu senpai.
Jaxson Sullivan
The Malkavians were the best part of the game.
David Taylor
what the fuck
Liam Hall
If we got non-camarilla clans How would the diablerize even work? Would it just be a quest to hunt down a (for example) tzimisce bishop and diablerize him?
Parker Reed
>says someone who clearly has not worked with the insane a single day in his life Real life psychotics are way bigger "caricatures" of crazy shit than anything you think is exaggerated for effect.
Christopher Howard
>>mfw the prosthetic limb store Gimble was unironically the scariest part of the game for me. I know it's the end of a sidequest that lasts like 10 minutes but the idea of this seemingly friendly man who locks people in his basement and cuts their fucking limbs off is all sorts of fucked up.
Cameron Cook
Bats, duh. Dracula vibes all the way. Telekinesis maybe second playthrough. Mist sounds like it belongs to smelly nosferatu.
Anthony Gonzalez
its a glass not a mirror, the other women are twins
I wonder if it's possible to change the HUD because this looks just awful. In V5 corebook it's explained that Camarilla offers thinbloods a chance to become a proper 13th gen Vampire if they prove their worth by a victim of a bloodhunt. > A thin-blood who manages to commit diablerie on a “true” Kindred absorbs not only their power and spirit but also their lineage, turning them into a 13th generation Kindred of their victim’s clan. The Camarilla occasionally dangles this prize in front of dusk-born who show themselves capable of running the dirtiest of errands and surviving, offering up a Cainite sentenced to a Blood Hunt as sacrifice.
>Would it just be a quest to hunt down a (for example) tzimisce bishop and diablerize him? Pretty sure thats literally what Tremere did
Carter Hernandez
I always assumed that it just worked if the blood hunt was a camarilla clan. Otherwise a thinblood knowing about diablerize could just do that to some random sabbat goon
Austin Murphy
depends on how useful mist is If you can dissolve into mist and infiltrate virtually everywhere Ill go with that, if not then I've had a strong hankering for a good psy playthrough in an rpg thats yet to be really satisfied
Christian Fisher
>you play as a thinblood >playing as a literal cucked vampire with no clan and shitty powers I REALLY hope this isn't the case. Ideally you somehow (intentionally or accidentally) kill a powerful vampire a few hours in and diablerize it. Then you either pick your clan or for extra kino your clan is given to you based on your actions up to that point or they could just do the survey thing from VTMB 1
Lucas Diaz
>diablerize is an actual mechanic >theres a whole questline where you learn about it >after completing it you can diablerize vampires to gain more power >the first diablerized vampire changes your clan to its own
Xavier Young
everyone's assuming that you'll track down the culprit behind the terror attack in the first act and the higherups will be impressed enough to let you diablerie him. The baddie will conveniently happen to be whichever clan the player wants to become
Aiden Cruz
It depends on how much they let you work with factions other than Camarilla. Diablerie was normalized in the Sabbat before the Camarilla, and is in general less taboo in the 5th edition, so you could get it as a reward. The idea of a thin blood besting a bishop or an ewuivalent seems unlikely. My guess is either a prince or somebody else (depending on the clan/sect) will reward you with a low level vampire to diablerize. Any strong vampire's soul I think would just mentally overpower you as soon as you consume him.
Xavier Ortiz
>playing as a literal cucked They literally have someone fuck their wives?
Lorelet here Why can't Thinblood just do that? Get a hang on info about diablerize and go on a random sabbat thugs?
Lincoln Wilson
diablerie is super illegal if unsanctioned, also lorewise its really unsafe because if the victim's will is stronger than yours they can just end up possessing you
I played this for the first time last month and loved it. The mines at the start were by far the lowest point of the game, everything was enjoyable from the boss onward.
I mean cucked in the sense that they're a vampire but also the shittiest and weakest kind, being unable to join a clan and having few to no powers.
Henry Garcia
Sabbat's shock troops should be just as thin blooded as you are, logically speaking. There's going to be a bigger distinction between thin bloods and full blown vampires in this game. You will likely fight against mostly thin bloods early on. Even if they let you fight vampires, if you don't logically understand diablerie it is excuse enough not to allow the player to do so.
Leo Reyes
The Sabbat has, or at least used to, rules on how and when you can diablerize someone and it was forbidden within the Camarilla. Anarchs varied with the territory, but usually they also forbid it. Also you would be immediatly spotted by anyone with auspex.
Levi Nguyen
Ending of the Crucible of God scenario of Gehenna It's pretty fucking rad
Nathan Miller
>You will likely fight against mostly thin bloods early on. >yfw game prologue is FFA with mass embraced thinbloods
Chase Cruz
In 20e I remember reading that the Sabbat's perspective was that if you were strong enough to diablerize somebody that naturally gives you the right to do so. If there are rules, they are of mixed opinion.
Lincoln Davis
i remember playing it as a kid, it was extremely hard for me, so you go into the present at some point?
Grayson Walker
So not literally
Asher Long
>The first game is near unplayable mechanics wise What?
God you fags are so obsessed with age, go die grandpa.
I played it a while ago but once I got to the modern era I stopped enjoying it so much. Which sucks because it seemed to pick up even more there. Maybe I'll give it another go, one day.
Isaiah Fisher
>Sequels over a decade later Literally never a reason to be hyped
Matthew Roberts
Is Antitribu actually good and fun?
Joseph Murphy
Just started. Can't say anything at this point. V5 Camarilla expansion. I honestly enjoy it and like they adapted WoD into the recent developments. How the war on terror put Intelligence agencies on the edge and how they discovered Kindred accidentally while they were going after jihadist assets etc. It'll certainly put VtMB2 into perspective.
Mason King
This, but ironically. Even if the game is good people will still shit on it because "it's not Bloodline 1".
Anthony Edwards
Thinblood powers literally feel as if they've taken the abilities that Kain from LoK had and split them into three different classes.
>travel by bats, use them to glide - check >turn into the mist to bypass things like grates - check >use telekinesis to flip switches, get items or (at higher) levels hurl people into sharp objects - check check check
I'm waiting until they'll say that Gangrels can turn into a literal wolf form and higher telekinesis levels will allow you to literally wrestle blood out of people and drink it by tk, like Kain could do as well.
Jace Clark
You're completely full of shit and you know it, a few digs at bush, and commie character are not the same thing as not wanting to "punch down" in a game based on being an undead, blood drinking, inhuman monster. Also Strauss was awesome, and the Camarilla ending was pretty decent overall.
Samuel Foster
Wtf vampire powers are similar wtf next you're gonna tell me they don't like the sun
Dylan Rogers
Based OT God
Hunter Myers
>higher telekinesis levels will allow you to literally wrestle blood out of people and drink it by tk, like Kain could do as well. >Literally blood strike but not shit
Robert Martinez
It's another "user uses the latest insult of the week" episode
Andrew Reyes
Well, in Legacy of Kain you have to damage people and bring them to a stagger state before you can do that, so I guess there's some limitation on it. Not that it makes sense since you can also easily impale grown men, often wearing plate, on wall spikes, but still.
Andrew Collins
>Thinbloods learn to fly
Jason Murphy
Because Vampire the Masquerade is a ROLEPLAYING game with good(yet very broken) mechanics. And Dungeons and Dragons has little to no fucking social mechanics in comparison and is a ROLLPLAYING game with also broken mechanics.
Noah Sullivan
I'm afraid that you might be right. I'm almost 100% sure that we'll not get gangrel. Fuck this shit! Fuck this industry! Fuck I'm mad.
Mason Baker
he likely means the wonky melee and goofy shooting mechanics
Oh, to add on to this. I forgot the other half of the reason. Because DnD was a bunch of fat/lanky nerds with no social skills in a basement. WoD told them "You get to dress like a gothic slut in a socially acceptable setting"
Ian Parker
Some Kindred with High Humanity sometimes mix blood with a bit of wine.
Levi James
wow god is a dick and epic.
Jacob Lee
>I'm waiting until they'll say that Gangrels can turn into a literal wolf form I think that's pretty normal for Gangrels, right?
Joshua King
Plus their Antediluvian is rumored to be in Greece and not blood raging for a Kindred that ancient. That's a extremely impressive feat.
Camden Allen
>antitribu mod I don't know how I'm feeling about this one lads
Caine was a jealous asshole and prideful. Literally all he had to do was repent for killing Abel and God would forgive him.
Joshua James
god is literally making more vampires who will kill and do worse. He is no better then caine
Grayson Davis
Only the clans are worth, rest of it is just fucking awful. Cheat and play around with the disciplines. Don't waste your time with it, it's buggy and makes you stay longer at the sewer with new enemies and puzzles.
Caine just have to say sorry. Hell, Caine is the one guy on earth that can actually stop all vampires, but he's too autistic to do so
James Hill
Crybaby Caine introduced murder into the world. He deserves everything that happens to him.
Brody Morris
>Toreador
Basically the most boring vanilla clan around next to Brujah, which is too bad.
Cooper Mitchell
>Basically the most boring vanilla clan around >falling for Torrie plans Their shallow ideals hide a more sinister personality which they like others to believe.
Noah Peterson
This is pretty freaky considering the Camarilla are so so very much against diablerie.
James Sanders
They're getting desperate for minions since two melee oriented clans left the Camirilla.
Connor King
Well things have changed dramatically and Camarilla is no longer the same Camarilla, that's why one should read V5 for the lore. I wish I had friends to play tabletop VTM with.
Justin Gray
why does caine need to say sorry for the able thing when its god making vampires kill humans. I thought god cared about humanity not used them to fuck with caine. just because he introduced it doesn't mean he is responsable for peoples actions. without god making vampires come back we would not have 99% of all the bad things in the world of darkness
Justin Lee
What do you mean left the camarilla? The fuck kind of bullshit storyline is happening?
The fuck is V5 ? The last book if Vamp I saw was 20th anniversary, and despite a few flaws it was basically an amazing book. Is this trying to go the fucking Requiem route where everything is boring and lame?
Evan Davis
The Brujah main leader killed an important Camirillia leader and took most of his clan members and the Gangrel left too. Most of V5 is shit anyways.
Matthew Turner
Oh my god, what fucking travesty is this bullcrap. But is V5 Masquerade or Requiem? This shit doesn't work, where did Bru and Gangrels go? Anarchs? Sabbat?
Lincoln Adams
isnt lasombra in camarilla now?
Bentley Lee
user, open your eyes there ton of signs aside form SJW bullshit that this game will blow.
Carter Collins
He's still right, OG VtM has a metric shit ton of SJW bullshit, but it worked well and did every facet of the story.
Connor Reed
Masquerade. Both went Anarchs Yes, and the wizard sect of the Muslim Vampires.
Easton Butler
It's set in World of Darkness, just a continuation of V20 into 2018 and onwards. I don't know why it's getting the piss, I'm actually liking it.
Elijah White
>WoD was always SJW shit >The original Bloodlines was made by SJWs and is full of SJW shit and it was good despite that It was never SJW back then. They've even said the first was a male power fantasy they want to steer away from. So please don't try and rewrite history when you're wrong
Isaiah Collins
>Most of England and France Kindred getting purged >Tremere HQ bombed to oblivion with no warning >Setties going Anarchs >Rudi V5 is shit. The only good thing is the new mechanics.
THE SETITES WENT ANARCHS?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What's next, the Giovanies fucking go Sabbat? And the Tzimische splinter off to do their own thing again?! HAH
Alexander Gomez
So fucking what faggot? It's not like shit happens with no reason, everything makes perfect sense given the context. There's a reason why Tremere and most kindred got BTFO, god I hate niggers like you who complain about shit for the sake of complaining. It's like the intelligence agencies got the wind of Kindred and Schrecknet got compromised.
Blake Bennett
The Giovannies are going to extict. You know that Clan they usurped? The survivors are haunting them down. The Tzies are going to the Middle East to fight the Antediluvians.
Logan Nguyen
Fuck it's been years since I played table top vamp. But they usurped the clan of necros that are now with the Sabbat right? I liked the Gios and the Setites, big clans outside of the political spheres of the big 3. But now that they avoided Gehenna and continued the story in the 21st century, things are bound to get weird.
The problem here is that everything is happening at the same time, too big, too fast for a society of lethargic monsters in which change is the slowest thing around.
Evan Carter
First game was shit after Downtown. I doubt sequel will be as good as Santa Monica. On the other hand I don't think it will be as bad as first game after Downtown.
Bentley Diaz
That's because that there was the time where the studio was running into problems.
Noah Rodriguez
Last but not least for Toreadors.
Lincoln Ramirez
Shit went down and they sought shelter first in Camarilla but an extremely paranoid Camarilla in V5 naturally rejected them. The ones in Europe & USA sought refuge in the anarch movement afterwards, independence became too costly after the Second Inquisition had started to hunt kindred left & right.
Brayden Gonzalez
All of the shit in thread here is strange, I feel conflicted to find some things in V5 be interesting, but also too dumb.