>decide to finally make the switch from console gaming to PC gaming
>all these fucking options to choose from
how the FUCK do you guys do this. there's like a million different motherboards, graphics cards, CPU's, power supplies... How the hell do you choose what parts you want?
I'm too overwhelmed by all this.
just check Logical Increments and be done with it
CPUs/graphics cards are actually really easy now. You decide what resolution/framerate you want and then you pick what's appropriate. Graphics cards are a little harder than CPUs since you should pick a good manufacturer too but it's easy to find out who's good.
Other parts are harder but you can figure things out with enough research.
If it's too much for you, buy a prebuilt. Otherwise literally just google "pc build $800" or whatever and choose the first fucking reddit thread that has a build some guy slapped together. Pcpartpicker has builds put together by the community as well. Google is your friend, any problem you have with the pc building process you can look up the fucking solution. Now please leave and stop shitting up this board.
Enjoy your shitty cheap psu and motherboard
this is a pretty cool website.
do i just pick out parts from a price tier and then put them into pcpartpicker.com?
also whats the difference between memory and storage?
Buy the most expensive options. Expensive=good, most expensive=best.
Don't let any poorfag convince you otherwise with their "best bang for the buck" cope bullshit.
All that matters is the model. There's always one model that's objectively better than the others, if you have money just buy it.
Brands don't matter, buy the cheapest or whatever gives you the best warranty deal. Don't be a brand whore.
Just go to /pcbg/ and post your shitty pcpartpicker build and keep revising it until they stop tearing you a new asshole
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO PICK YOUR MONITOR FIRST, AND BUILD YOUR PC AROUND THE MONITOR YOU'VE CHOSEN
This, the OP is good start. Lurk the ocasional PC thread on Yea Forums too
Memory is RAM and is used for running things, storage is hard drive space. Are you underage or something?
How the fuck don't you know the difference between memory and storage? I'll give you simplest explanation for your little pea brain. Memory(RAM) is a work table while storage(HDD/SSD) is a warehouse.
>also whats the difference between memory and storage?
Do yourself a favor and read the wikipedia page on computers or something holy shit dude
sorry i realized what it meant after i posted. dont know why they just don't say RAM like everyone else does.
>OP trying to join the mustard race
>do nothing but insult him
This is why consolefags hate us
Good. Maybe you should join them
Kiddie pool is a waste of time, just push him in the deep end right away and if he dies, he dies.
how's this? total is $800, any way to make this cheaper?
Not OP (who is a giant zoomer that grew up with mom's iPad btw) but a lot of normies think big terabytes is THE thing to look for in a computer and really can't tell the difference between memory and storage.
>that GPU
You can get a cheaper case and a cheaper motherboard. Don't fall for the GAMING crap, it's all overpriced shit. Also your GPU and PSU suck.
You really want an SSD, try and squeeze that in if you possibly can. Amazon at least has them for sale occasionally.
Motherboard doesn't need to be that expensive, you can roll with an ~$80 bog standard mb and won't see any problems. If you go with the 2600 instead of the 2600x cpu you won't need to get a 3rd party cooler, the stock cooler on the 2600 is good enough. Might want to get a cheap ssd to put your OS on just for quality of life, you'll boot a lot faster.
You can use the CPU stock cooler instead of buying one. It won't be fantastic but it does work and it saves you money.
You can get a cheaper motherboard. Go B450 instead of X470.
You don't have an SSD and your PSU is shit, by the way.
i just went with the $700 tier on that logical increments site, verbatim.
so is a 120gb ssd fine?
im making these changes now, standby
120GB is pretty tiny given that modern games can take 30+. Go for 500GB at least.
Not OP but what's wrong with the 1660?
I can't imagine being so retarded to actually ask this anywhere other than google. I didn't know there was a difference at first, but just by looking up parts for my computer, and watching videos on how to put a PC together, I learned that and a million other things.
Do yourself a favor and just get a prebuilt or have someone build it for you.
120gb is enough for OS, important programs that you use a lot, and MAYBE a game if it's not huge.
Oh sorry, I saw 660 not 1660. Don't know enough about the 1660 to comment.
tl:dr i suck dicks
>660
who would pay $220 for that are you blind
Here is tip:
Buy SSD and install your OS and anything you want to run fast on it.
Buy non SSD at cheaper price but ALOT more storage. Then just store shit like your furry pics and dick porn on it.
>being more concerned about price than aesthetics
Never going to make it.
100. Best I can do.
Shitposting aside, this is a good thread and OP is cute.
Sold. I just removed my 660 Ti today for a 2070.
We're down to $739. For $10 more i can get a 240gb SSD.
is this looking better?
The 580 is undeniably the best GPU price/performance wise. $130ish used, no card can beat its performance for what you pay.
wouldnt it be better to just get cheaper stuff that can run games up to 2014-2015? I dont see what games are worth getting past that timeframe that cant run on a mid tier pc
Your PSU's still bad. Aside from that it's fine as long as you upgrade the SSD like you said.
Alright kiddo lets get you started. Protip: PCPartPicker. Google it. Use it. It filters out incompatible parts, keeps track of your wattage and lets you pick the parts you prefer.
Every PC build starts with the CPU. There's a lot to choose from so here's how you understand them... there are two manufacturers of CPUs. Intel and AMD. Intel typically do better than AMD but AMD are typically cheaper. The current naming convention for CPUs is as follows...
For intel: i-.
So for instance, an Intel i5-8600 is a mid tier, 8th (might be wrong there) gen cpu. i7-8700 would be better than the i5. If it has a k on the end, it's unlocked meaning you can overclock it. You just jumped from console to PC so don't get an unlocked CPU, you don't know what you are doing with it and dont need it.
This works the same with AMD, their latest series is Ryzen 2, and follow similar naming convention.
Motherboards, if you are using PC Part Picker, you will only see motherboards compatible with your PC... but this is the next step and this post is pretty long so stand by.
I ask the nerds I am steam friends with which parts to buy and then buy them. This system has worked for over a decade now.
>2600
>B450 Mobo
Feel free to downgrade the cpu if all you're going to do is game. That gpu will bottleneck that cpu anyway.
Based retard
Lol you're a faggot. You didn't even mention you need a Z/X board to even OC.
He also didn't even mention cooling.
CPUs can't be bottlenecked by GPUs you dense faggot, only underutilized which is a moot point.
No shit because he isn't gonna be overclocking because he just fucking switched you idiots.
Stock coolers are enough for stock builds dumbass i do this for a living
Motherboard time. Lets assume you picked an intel processor, an i7-8700. Your first instinct will be "oh i need a cpu cooler." STOP. Almost all CPUs come with a stock cooler and stock is all you need to start with. You get custom coolers if either A: the noise is bothering you, B: you have heat issues because you overclock the thing, or C: you live in a hot environment and you need the extra power in your airflow.
So motherboards. There's a few manufacturers and it pains me to suggest this but keep an eye on reddit for "PSA" posts about certain manufacturers on the PCMasterRace subreddit, because you want a manufacturer who has a decent RMA process. You are going to notice a lot of the boards share something in their name: Z370... Z390... all boards like this are for the most part the same, its just extra features thrown on top. I suggest going with a z390 motherboard, make sure it has 6gb/s sata ports (important for later), and double check its form factor (ATX most likely).
Next up: Memory... or Deddotated wam if you like stale old memes.
so upgrade the PSU and downgrade the CPU?
And spend an extra $10 to go from a 120gb SSD -> 240gb SSD?
Is everything else fine otherwise?
Lets not be too hasty user. If you read the entire post you'll see they say they will go over motherboards in a separate post but, a footnote mentioning it in the CPU section would have been nice for retards like you.
>buying intel cpu already cost a lot
>buying ryzen cpu will still cost a lot since lel need faster ram to maximize the cpu
What the fuck
Personally I'd keep the cpu, it's still a damn cheap cpu and really good for the price. Otherwise yeah, it'd golden, just make sure you upgrade the psu. Anything else you see in this thread is just arguing over insignificant details, it's a fine build.
Yes they can you underage mongolian immigrant. Easy to see, gpu utilization sitting at 100%, low fps and low cpu usage. That gpu is literally too weak to keep pace with a 2600, and the cpu is waiting for the gpu to render its shit.
>dumbass i do this for a living
Fucking lmao. Sure the system will work but the retard you give the build to isn't going to clean it and it will be coated in dust in a few months. Few years later and the inside is disgusting, a stock cooler will shit itself while a nice aftermarket one will keep chugging along until the end of time.
Step 1: Have a > double digit IQ
You can keep the cpu if you think you need it and can spend the extra money but personally I'd spend every dime possible on the very best gpu I could afford as that's the part you'll notice the most in gaming.
whats that i couldn't hear you over the sound of your post being deleted.
Alrighty bro time to pick your memory. So there's a lot of names and shit thrown around in ram but you dont need to pay attention to that. Here's what you need to know...
1: RGB is fucking cancer. It looks pretty, but its useless and generates heat. Also price goes up for RGB. Don't get it.
2: You'll notice ram comes in certain speeds, "DDR4-3000" "DDR4-2400". The number after the dash is the clock speed of the module. The higher, the better. But it also gets expensive the higher up you get.
3: Don't go with random unknown companies and stick to checking reddit for recent PSA posts warning you about dodgy manufacturers.
You want about 16gb RAM in total for your first build. 2x8GB modules are best, gives you room to upgrade in the future. Corsair Vengeance LPX looks nice from what I can see here, go with that.
Next on the menu: Storage.
Bruh my brother runs a stock cooler and he's fucking incompetent, i know he dont clean it. That shit still runs well (considering its a core 2 duo from fucking a decade past...). It'll be fine. Besides, I'm getting to maintenance at the last post.
>considering its a core 2 duo from fucking a decade past
Yeah try that with a high core count Intel chip or a top end ryzen.
100% untrue you nigger.
Dude fuck off, we helped this guy with his build did we not? OP will get called a faggot, that's a fucking given. Otherwise there are autistic retards in this thread arguing over stupid shit, go to /g/ for a minute and you'll see the same thing.
nigger jannies
I'm no computer expert or anything but, just speaking from personal experience, a 250gb SSD will fill up very fast if you own a library of games. I recommend at least 1TB. Again, I'm no computer expert.
The 2tb HDD is what OP Will use for most games
bruh if your stock cooler cant handle the dust in your PC maybe you should pull the damn thing out of the woodwork shop dumbass.
OK buddy storage time. We're here on Yea Forums so you want to store games. Bretty Obvious duh. Let's see here.
You are probably used to consoles only letting you have like 1 hard drive or something. That's a meme of the past my friend. Welcome to the PC Master Race: Now with expandable storage, RAID, and Solid State storage. Lets start with your OS drive.
Your OS drive should be an SSD, at least 250gb. You will be installing your OS to that, all your software like.. idk... discord? Steam? Epic Games? idk... whatever you like desu. The rule of thumb with SSDs is: Samsung is king. Most other SSDs have faults or tend to die. My SSD in my PC rn is a 6 year old Samsung drive that has physical damage to it, but it still chugs away.
Get a 2.5" form factor SSD, with a SATA 6 Gb/s interface, just skimming parts picker right now, I'd say Samsung MZ-76E250B/AM. You can go up to the 500GB version of that SSD (76E500B/AM), but 250GB is the minimum. The more storage on your SSD, the more space for a game you play a lot and want to load near instantly.
Not done yet, we need a mass storage solution. 500GB isn't enough for everything. But we want it cheap too. Go get yourself a 2TB HDD. 3.5" form factor is the standard here. Make sure you filter to 7200RPM. Trustworthy brands include Seagate and Western Digital. The Seagate ST2000DM006 is a good choice.
You really cant go wrong with storage, as long as you stick to a rule of a small SSD to boot from and a large HDD to store shit on. And avoid non-samsung SSDs because they tend to fail. Infact a kingston one has recently been reviewed with RGB as having a heat issue... it literally cooks itself to death.
Next up... oh yeah the fun part. GPU! Graphics boii.
Incest is fucking degenerate.
Why are you doing this exactly? OP already has a build made, he isn't a retard.
Yeah it sounds like I'll use my HDD for most games, and my SSD will be saved for my OS and a select few games that I want to load super fast. Does that sound about right?
Also, I don't need any of this extra stuff right? I can figure out how to pirate W10 and I already have a monitor/keyboard/etc.
because i can because i care and because someone else linked me this thread and i'm helping him as much as anyone else.
Graphics cards... oh boy.
You're gonna be not spoiled for choice here. Nvidia has a dominant market share on gpu technology, leaving AMD leagues behind. There's a few different cards to pick from... lets get started.
First off, lets get one thing out of the way. RTX is a meme. Dont get it. Infact just get a 1050ti, nice and easy. I've kinda stopped caring at this point because my pizza just got here.
Get a decent case, nothing flashy or fancy, stick to ATX, get a powersupply thats at least 50-100w over your current wattage, and ur good. Monitors are cool, get 144hz for gaming... don't fall for the Freesync gsync meme, freesync is the way to go. Also uhhh fuck that one guy who spammed porn in this thread ok im gonna go eat fuck yall.
>1050ti
Wasnt that the cheap way like 5 years ago. 1660 is all the hotness now
I just plug shit together and it usually works out
hope that helps
Yeah you're golden.
>I can figure out how to pirate W10
I called you a retard earlier in this thread but I take it back. You're a cool dude and I wish you the best of luck transitioning to PC.
pcpartpicker.com
Is Samsung really that important? This is the SSD I currently have on my list. It's half the price of the equivalent-sized samsung ssd.
You don't buy Seagates and you don't buy no-name hard drives. This is asking to lose your data, even if they have a warranty there's a high chance that shit just breaks within the first three years.
You should be fine. All storage mediums will fail at some point, samsung just has a better track record than others.
Hey that's a neat metaphor, I'm stealing that.
Don't get no name hard drives. I swear by Samsung SSDs because they have yet to fail me. Like I said, mine literally has physical damage but is still kicking. And samsung also offer a good RMA.
Seagate HDDs are cheap and durable. But their RMA process leaves much to be desired. WD is the better HDD brand.
You don't need the cooler, the 2600X stock cooler is fine
Get an SSD (m.2 is fine)
That GPU is shit. Get an RX 580 if you want 1080p 60fps.
That power supply is absolute gutter trash, get gold certified and you'd probably want at least 550W (650W if you plan to upgrade later)
>and durable
I've had well over six fail on me in over a decade, all of them have been gifts. Two have been internals, four externals, my longest one has been going for about 8 years as an external plugged in almost every day and my PS4's internal 40GB lasted me since launch until last year when I changed it. Keep in mind there's data centers who have shown that theirs die more often than other brands. WD is definitely the better brand, just don't go for their energy saver stuff.
Well I've only had one Seagate and it was still working when I threw it out. If their shit breaks then their shit breaks, dont go with them.
>why they just don't say RAM
Google what RAM means
seagate has been fine for ages. it's really more model specific at this point. there's also a bunch of SSDs that're on par with samsung like crucial. just make sure you get one with dram for your primary ssd
(ignore last post, wrong pic)
Okay so this is the current build which comes in at exactly $750.
I upgraded the power supply, does this one look a lot better?
The only change I might make is going with a 250gb Samsung SSD rather than my current one, which is an extra $30. (this one: amazon.com
But it sounds like everything else is fine.
You're good, pull the trigger.
most of these budget builds either use a seasonic m series,corsair cx or evga b series psu. they're not great but ain't awful for the price
lower down to a b series board, you can skimp on the cooler for now as it comes with it's own, use savings for an ssd, looks okish desu
Never heard of that SSD manufacturer, did you read the reviews online?
Also, check benchmarks on the 1660 to make sure it has the performance you're looking for.
>so is a 120gb ssd fine?
yes though it's likely to fill up quickly, you should ideally get a 500gb one. but 120gb would be fine for now
psu is still kind of bad, evga supernova series psu's regularly go on sale for 59-89 dollars. the kingston is kind of meh, try if you can find any samsung or crucial deals. the rest is fine
>reddit.com
>inb4 reddit
lurk this subreddit and prepare to lose money
at least mention that the ryzen cpu's are unlocked without a suffix and doesn't require an x series board to overclock like the intel
why? You just did for me.
and again, new gamer dont need to know about overclocking, otherwise they go "COOL LETS OC TO 6.5GHZ ON A STOCK COOLER" and rips their pc, or worse tries to liquid cool with liquid nitrogen unaware that silicone chips have a minimum operating temperature as well as a maximum...
everything looks good aside from the ssd I'd take the kingston you posted first over that ssd, much better if you could get a crucial or samsung one
>460419550
>new gamer dont need to know about overclocking
they do if they don't want to get ripped off and buy dead end parts
>otherwise they go "COOL LETS OC TO 6.5GHZ ON A STOCK COOLER" and rips their pc
newer pc's have safeguards in place to prevent that
>tries to liquid cool with liquid nitrogen unaware that silicone chips have a minimum operating temperature as well as a maximum
nigger what?
I've been playing games on a prebuilt with just an added GPU and extra ram these past 4 years and I have no complaints. I honestly think it's stupid to jump right into the DIY PC scene, should start somewhere simple like me and you'll learn more about what you're actually looking for when you're ready to upgrade to a built PC versus going by a checklist anons online gave you.
Don't listen to this retard when you can avoid making mistakes early and potentially save money plus getting more bang for your buck.
>trying to drag someone else into making a retarded decision
you're an awful comp tech/builder if you knowingly fuck over newbies like that
I wish I could watch a livestream of OP assembling his PC for the first time
What part of "New users don't need to know how to overclock" do you not understand?
He is literally just switching to PC... he said he is confused. Don't teach him how to overclock, that's not what he needs. Once he gets the hang of building his own pc, using it, diagnosing problems, thats when you teach him about overclocking.
You don't teach a baby how to run a marathon before they can even stand up straight.
He's coming from a console, an i5, 8GB DDR3 1050ti machine will still blow his mind and run anything he wants. He doesn't need to spend big money to get into PC gaming, I'm trying to stop him from making a car payment on a machine he's just going to play games on and not professional editing.
>W10
nah you want to go with W7, DX12 is being backported and also Vulkan exists.
Literally only go for W10 if you want those windows store exclusives(i can't even name one), otherwise you're just installing a bloated botnet.
>Don't teach him how to overclock, that's not what he needs. Once he gets the hang of building his own pc, using it, diagnosing problems, thats when you teach him about overclocking.
no one was teaching how to overclock, were telling him to get hardware that gets the most bang for the buck and gives him options a vast majority of people don't make new builds every year so better for them to get the best build they can get for their budget right out of the gate.
I didn't learn how to tie my shoes until I was 15 and I'm smarter than you.
Dont W10 have better multicore performance or something like that?. I dont think our newfriend here should be bothering with patching drivers into a w7 image cuz ryzen
>I'm trying to stop him from making a car payment on a machine he's just going to play games on and not professional editing.
no one was fucking sugesting builds with xeons and shit. op posted a budget of at least 800 bucks and asked for suggestions on his build.
Why get a board for overclocking if u arent going to overclock thats just fucking stupid lmao
have you tried not being stupid?
>Why get a board for overclocking if u aren't going to overclock that's just fucking stupid lmao
his processor choice allows it and it gives him options once he wants to take the plunge. why suggest buying cheaper but dead-end/locked hardware with the logic of "lol he can just build another one once he understands"
Ryzen scales well with memory frequency, I would get RAM with 3200 MHz (anything beyond that is affected too much by diminishing returns). That's ~ 25$ for some more performance.
While Win 7 is obviously the superior OS, I think modern BIOS (which is actually a completely different thing, called UEFI) and CPUs don't support it, unfortunately.
Samsungs still an SSD leader?
Don't forget! You'll forever regret it if you fuck up, so chill out and read faggot
This. Just do some research on parts and ask around for some tips or hardware suggestions.
GUY! I need some help!
I just buy Radeon 470 and my PSU (400w) keep shutdown everytime when i start new game (RE 2 Remake). How much Watts i need!?