Team Fortress 2

>barnblitz last
what a fucking awful map, i can understand why people play other trash maps but I genuinely don't understand why people unironically vote for Barnblitz.

It's the single most RED-sided payload map in the whole game.
>HAHA dude what if we let RED fire right into the back of BLU's spawn!!
>HAHA duuuuude what if BLU immediately had to fight up a fucking steep hill to get anywhere with no favorable routes
>LMAO dude like just give RED full health kits fucking everywhere
>XDDD NOT ENOUGH HEIGHT ADVANTAGE FOR RED? HOW ABOUT A LITERAL FUCKING BALCONY
>point 3 is a massive unbroken sniper sightline
>Last is three steep as fuck stairways RED can spam down or bodyblock that are ALSO tiny single man corridors. GENIUS DUDE LMAO SHIP IT
I don't think I've even encountered an alpha custom map that's so blatantly defensively biased. A blind retarded banana with AIDS and autism and no way of manipulating the controls could hold that last point with its non-hands tied behind its back and no teammates.

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In conclusion, a Barnblitz round is 9 times out of 10:
>"Congratulations RED, you win. Now the other team gets to be RED and win!"

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Chocolate Rain

what kind of retarded mode is medic vs engineer? Do people even play on normal maps any more?

yes?

op here. first post in this thread to get 23 names it

Pill Pusher

Oh woooooow winrar

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13% = 50%

The Grenade Launcher

SHEEEEEEEEIIIIT

The N word pass

Digger Nick

Despite making up only 13% of the playerbase, Demomen are responsible for more than 50% of kills.

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r/tf2 admin and proud!!!

>that gay edit
ruined

I'm Gay

"I asked user to name my weapon and all I got was this shitty line"

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>play tf2 for the first time in years
>people are still absolutely worthless
>game is still dominated by demo and soldier

what a waste of 21gb

"Sorry, ran out of stickies"

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BAN FAGGOTS

Grenade Launcher

>>game is still dominated by demo and soldier
and scout, sniper, and medic

and also by engie and heavy on defense

please be careful i have autism

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Laying Pipes

"I suck diCKs"

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Big Black Pipes

I got the idea for my Iron Bomber after somebody called me this in a pub

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I still haven't gotten an Iron Bomber, how did you do it?

Piggy-backing off of "Big Black - Songs About Piping"

The game

what do you mean, how did i get? i bought it on the market

OMG P2W GAME!!!!

Damn, didn't thing think that tf2 got new players angnore. Welcome to the world of autism, free

Cunt.

I got mine through random drops. How long have you been playing?

>have only ever met one player who was better than me
>he's on my friends list
feels good man

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nothing in tf2 will ever top the sonic or undertale community

Why 23 though

I like everything about barnblitz except the last point. Red always get height advantage that's why they have longer respawn times. Hoodoo, goldrush, and frontier are far worse maps.

A reminder that Barnblitz is Uncle Dane's favorite map in the game.

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Schmuck Smasher

>tfw I've been playing each day for the past month because I wanted to come back to TF2 and I still haven't gotten a single new weapon or item that I didn't already have
I just want a fucking Wrangler and the Crossbow please game

Frontier is in no way worse. It's like one of the most mid-tier maps in the Payload rotation, it has its ups and downs but isn't too biased to either side like Barnblitz is. Hoodoo and Goldrush are worse though, obviously.
>Red always get height advantage
Not true, plenty of maps either have a flat alternate route, or a steep alternate route to the height advantage that's far enough from RED's hold to make it usable, and even when it is true not to the extent of Barnblitz which is basically moving from one RED height advantage to another.
Look at Borneo and Snowycoast and (ironically) Upward for example, they give BLU the height advantage or even ground routes at multiple points during gameplay.
Even when RED's usual hold points do have a height advantage on Borneo, it normally amounts to a small ledge a few feet off the ground.

Bazooka Tooth

Can he be any more of a fucking waste of space? His only good opinion is Wrangler and it's not like we needed him to tell us that
Use the store "testing" system. You can endlessly borrow one weapon from the TF2 store at a time for free.

Either that or just go on the community market or trade with a trade bot, weapons are LITERALLY worth cents there. Eg: A skinned Crossbow is going for 12 cents right now.

You can always craft it (or buy it if you want to go that far)

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The Morning Before, During, and After Pill

fif you come up with that just now

Uhhh, just trade for those weapons?

If I had money I would be playing an actual game user. I'll try trading.

>point 3 is a massive unbroken sniper sightline
I recenlty played barnblitz as experienced this firsthand. There were three god-tier snipers on RED that singlehandedly cock blocked BLU until the round was over. They each had 7-8 dominations by the time the game ended.

Sniper sucks all the fun out of TF2 sometimes. He can be incredibly broken if the player is competent enough.

how do you "counter" a w-m1 pyro?

been playing since 2012 but took long breaks between most of the major updates

1. Run backwards
2. Shoot the pyro
3. ????
4. Profit

Based and {TEAM}pilled

Since you guys mentioned Frontier, I think the bomb train should be fixed. I don't like how wonky it is.

There are times when you're alongside it and it'll pin you against a wall, unable to move, and when you're riding it your character can get jerked around (especially when going up a slope).

You aint kidding. Some people legit scare me.
>Entire team getting wrecked in Intel room in Turbine.
>This scout with a golden force a nature rolls up
>Blasts half the team back into their spawn, killing three dudes
>Runs to the Intel, grabs it, blasts the heavy blocking the door to spawn, jumps on all of their heads, FaNing everything in his way
>Runs around a sentry, blasting it four times until it explodes then bolts through mid
>Force jumps the containers then jumps our battlements
>Scores in roughly 15 seconds from their base to ours
>Does it four more times and we win
I like when tryhard scouts are on my team.

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the counter to a w+m1 pyro is becoming a s+m1 player

this has never happened to me in the history of tf2.

>mfw I see a Scout FaN jump from 2fort sewers to the enemy battlements in two shots
Good scouts are scary af

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Considering you're a returning player, your account might not be set up for trading, which means gay shit like email authentication and 10 day trade holds when you try to trade.

So it might end up being quicker if you craft 2 scrap+Huntsman to get the Crossbow, and complete 17 Engie achievements to get the Wrangler as a guaranteed achievement drop. Just some friendly advice.

Stay out of its range.

Huh, that's weird. I only started playing seriously last month, and I already have one. Well, I guess you can craft or trade for it.

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>Run backwards
>shoot rockets/grenades at your feet

sounds great

23

The real deciding factor with Sniper is the map design. I consider myself a very middling Sniper player, on maps like Upward I'm fucking useless, but on any flat-ish map with few obstructions like 2fort or the one time Yea Forums ran a Fortwars server, I completely dominate.
If Sniper's sightlines are blocked he can't do anything, it's really that simple. The map balances him similarly to the way that the map balances Engineer and to a lesser extent Soldier/Demoman's mobility.

Lol, just shoot him before he gets too close. W+m1 pyros are the ultimate pleb filter. Only noobs and shitters complain about them.

If this is Skial and he typically wears spooky set with a tossle cap then I know who you're talking about.
...I fucking hate him. Impossible to play sniper when he's on the 2fort server.

That would be useful but my little brother used to play on my account, cheated all the achievements and then scrapped all the items. So I can only buy, trade or hope for random drops.

>try to have fun
>some autist who spends 60 hours a week and practices his aim to the point that he may as well have aim hacks turns every open area to a near-instant death zone

This is why I don't play the game anymore

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Atomic Niggermare

>Frontier is in no way worse
The giant cart you can get stuck on or killed by is already a huge problem with the map. Sniper sightlines are much worse. Chokepoints are narrower with lower ceilings. Second is one of the hardest points to attack in the game with the cart blocking main and the flank being easily spammed out from above, a powerful sentry spot watching it, and a cliff next to it to deny ubers. Last is much harder to take because both spawns have height advantage and you can't easily sticky trap them and the cart has to go PAST them and on top of that attacker spawns all have one exit that is easily sticky trapped.
>Look at Borneo and Snowycoast and (ironically) Upward for example, they give BLU the height advantage or even ground routes at multiple points during gameplay.
Depends where you setup. Upward second sure they don't get height advantage ON the point but if you forward hold as most comp teams do on the hill you will. I should have been more specific defenders always have height advantage because they get to choose where to defend.
>Even when RED's usual hold points do have a height advantage on Borneo, it normally amounts to a small ledge a few feet off the ground.
Don't underestimate it. A small ledge will force soldiers to go for direct hits and pyros to go around.

>play casual on valve servers
>somebody says !rtd in chat

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anyone wanna trade an iron bomber for a strange neon annihilator

>I just want a fucking Wrangler and the Crossbow please game
unlock the wrangler with engineer achievements and unlock the huntsman then use it to craft the crossbow

Scouts can FaN jump the sewers?! That's broken as shit.

how is the game nowadays? i haven't played in about a year, been moving on to fighting games and whatnot

I already have the achievements

You know there's a specific mechanic in this game where you shoot rockets at your feet in order to jump higher way out of a pyro's range, right?
You can also shoot at the pyro's feet in order to launch him in the air for an easy air-shot.

Ok, use the "item trial" service on the steam store and you can use that to get the wrangler until it actually random drops; and just do the crafting thing for crossbow when you get a huntsman drop

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I've only seen THAT particular scout on Skial do it. I've seen plenty jump the grate and battlements. No idea if it's as widespread a technique as the other two.

google "iron bomber tf2 price", go to the first link backpack.tf and send a trade offer to a bot that is selling it. it's just one scrap.

Same for me plus

>fun back and forth CTF rounds
>3 or 4 (huntsman) snipers on each team bring the server to a halt
>everyone just stays back and spams grenades/takes pot shots from afar at each other

>blocks ur path

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Like this

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>uses fan o'war

mah nigga this guy has great taste in melee weapons, anyone here agrees that the fan should get a buff? maybe damage? its my favorite weapon in the game

Hell. Matchmaking is still garbage and puts you on teams of retards 90% of the time.

get good, dude. it doesn't matter which team you're on.

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>2nd round of dustbowl
>8:31

Sounds like Gravy/Goss if you've ever had the displeasure of dealing with him on Skial. Lot of old heads on that server and I know I've seen him do it.
Dude also jumps the spawn hole above long hallway to grab health.
Scared the shit out of me one day as I was leaving spawn.

uhh yes? rounds of dustbowl are exceptionally long.

Nickleback

The fact that it's the second round shows that red sucked anyway

Getting killed by the cart with the giant chewy mouth on the front is a feature, getting stuck on it doesn't happen often, my real issue with the cart design is how much of a pain it is to stand on it on that one hill (you know the one).
>Sniper sightlines are much worse
There are longer sightlines but with more ways to avoid them. Like that massive sightline on last balcony to health/ammo balcony for example, if you want to avoid that sniper you can either take the wooden ramp rooms and then climb the stairs to flank around behind him, or you can go via the glass dropdown.
As opposed to the sightlines on Barnshitz 1/3 (eg: from the snowy hill) which have a full view of all approaches and no alternate routes.
>Chokepoints are narrower with lower ceilings
Ceiling height is pretty equal along the cart route for both maps and Frontier definitely has bigger doorways all over the map and more room to move than Barnblitz.
>attacker spawns all have one exit that is easily sticky trapped
I find myself being camped on Barnblitz as BLU a hell of a lot more than I do on Frontier as BLU. Keep in mind spawn distances/spawn times are a major factor in this.
>I should have been more specific defenders always have height advantage because they get to choose where to defend
Yeah but the highest point isn't always the optimal place to defend from... unless you're playing Barnblitz of course on every point except its last point.
>A small ledge will force soldiers to go for direct hits and pyros to go around
The thing is that the Borneo ledge is about 3 feet away from a shallow incline ramp leading up to the top of it. And it's a narrow ledge with a wall behind, meaning Soldiers can still benefit from splash off the wall. So it's not really a distinct height advantage.

I don't really hate any maps. All can be good on occasion.

I’m a pretty terrible sniper myself. I don’t know if it’s because the characters move too fast or the hit registration but I can’t get headshots even if my life depended on it.

classes in tf2 don't move fast at all, play more fps games.

Fun. If you can find a community server that runs normal custom maps like I did you'll still have a great time, and even if you can't Casual is tolerable as long as you're not the sort of person who takes Casual seriously.
If you want a challenge there's also community competitive lobbies who have a good spread of skilled players.

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>buffing balanced weapons
that's how you get powercreep kids
scout's melee arsenal is fine and has a good range of viable choice leave it alone

not him but each character has a different movement speed and pattern which you have to get accustomed to. Most FPS that aren't arena shooters have basically two movement speed

>scout
-run backwards
u must say from the pyro's range and it will usually help to get away as fast as possible in tricky situations, as a scout, running away is your best bet as a defensive stand and will give you move ground to attack head on when not in the pyro's range
-force of nature
the force of nature is a must when you have a pyro at your knees, not only does it give you move flexible mobility as triple jumps and high jumps, it basically pushes said pyro away and he can fuck off while taking a pure 100 hitpoints to the face
-mad milk
in these dangerous times where you have exceedingly low hitpoints the only rational way to end the continues string of damage is by extinguishing the fires thanks to a known liquid, thank god mad milk helps, and also pretty practical to get back some hitpoints in situational moments if ur good with the gun
-boston basher
WARNING, do not use this, this is a desperate situation where you know you will die thanks to the hitpoints being flinched by fire damage, its only to be used to put the enemy pyro in a dangerous situation after your decease by harassing him with chip damage/bleeding
>soldier,

im tired lmao fuck this im not doing 8 more

>lmao
>u
>all lowercase
TFTV and general posters make themselves too easy to spot by typing like teenage valley girls from the mid 2000s would text.

The people you should avoid are those who speak in faux-apathetic lowercaps at all times. To be clear, I'm not talking about people who speak without grammar in game in order to get their messages out faster. I'm talking about those who sit down to compose an image board post with all the time in the world and willfully choose to omit punctuation and capitalization. They are not doing this to save time. In fact, they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.

Their motivation for this style of posting is simple. They are trying to present an aura of apathy. They want to communicate: "I don't care about anything, least of all the rules of grammar." The reason they work so hard to cultivate this image of emotional invulnerability is because they are, in actual fact, extremely emotional and unstable people. If you become close to them you will catch glimpses of the volatility lurking beneath their patchwork mask of cool indifference. The lowercaps poster will silently catalog transgressions you have in its eyes committed. You will only become aware of them during the rare tantrum blowups that characterize these people. They must be avoided for your own good. The faux-apathetic lowercaps posters really could not be more pathetic.

/tf2g/ needs to fuck off back to /vg/.

im fine, im just lazy, not mentally unstable, how did u even come up with that conclusion the fuck?

no /tf2g/ is here to stay

>go to /tf2g/
What the fuck is wrong with them? Why do half the posts feel like they don't reply?

mental illness from too much dilation causes them to think that not physically replying to someone will discourage shitposting.
It's the same sort of retarded logic that made Hiro remove (you)s from Yea Forums replies a few years back because /qa/ shitposters told him people shitposted for (you)s

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>Getting killed by the cart with the giant chewy mouth on the front is a feature
It's a shit feature. The default cart is helpful the frontier cart is not.
>getting stuck on it doesn't happen often
There are multiple points along the path where the cart blocks 90% of the corridor. Like I said you can't push through main on second because the cart is so fucking big.
>There are longer sightlines but with more ways to avoid them
>if you want to avoid that sniper you can either take the wooden ramp rooms and then climb the stairs to flank around behind him, or you can go via the glass dropdown.
One forces you to go through a fucking pit right under the enemy's spawn into a claustrophobic series of corridors and the other flank isn't helpful because you still have to walk into his line of sight with no room to maneuver. I'd much rather deal with the sniper on barnblitz where you can close the gap with a single rocket jump and don't have to walk through a fucking one person wide hallway/walkway to get there.
>Ceiling height is pretty equal along the cart route for both maps
I'm talking about the flanks. Look at first on the path next to the train or on last with the route through the pit. Lowest ceilings I've ever seen.
>I find myself being camped on Barnblitz as BLU a hell of a lot more than I do on Frontier as BLU
I will give you first spawn is bad but after you cap first it's much better.
>Yeah but the highest point isn't always the optimal place to defend from
Name an example where that isn't the case.

Is this a copy paste? can't tell at all anymore since I rarely come to these threads.

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Skill Enabler

Tf2 is getting quite boring, what ever could i do to have that sub 100 hour experience i had when i first booted the game? you guys know what i mean right? its not the same anymore, granted i still love tf2 but not to the extend i still love minecraft, the forest, gta, ect..

"Irish friend"

They are animals. Anyone who visits /vg/ often must be euthanized for the sake of society.

>get btfo by a demo multiple times
>type 'reported' and disconnect

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>Youre on your way to Hoodoo
>Snowycoast
>Upward

Just end it all

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Literally just shoot him

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This happened to me once, stop doing it for your sake, you're just making me laugh and making a fool of yourself.

5 names it

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Pierogi

It's a good feature because it allows changing up some basics of Payload map design without creating bodyblock opportunities for RED where you just sit on the other side of the cart from the enemy crouched.
>There are multiple points along the path where the cart blocks 90% of the corridor.
Literally the ONLY point this happens is the corridor to point 1, and you should be riding the cart at that point.
>One forces you to go through a fucking pit right under the enemy's spawn into a claustrophobic series of corridors
Doesn't change it being a good flank route which works all the time. It even drops you in an advantageous position literally right at the balcony, and RED never seems to police it.
>because you still have to walk into his line of sight
Depending on the balcony position, not necessarily or just only for a split moment.
>I'd much rather deal with the sniper on barnblitz where you can close the gap with a single rocket jump
Ah yes a good map is designed around the assumption every attacker is playing Soldier at the time of spawning and wants to switch off to Soldier
Besides unless you want to walk slowly across open snowy ground, it's going to be more than one jump to reach the sniper
>Look at first on the path next to the train or on last with the route through the pit. Lowest ceilings I've ever seen
Barnblitz's point 2 flank and stairwell leading to point 4 have even lower ceilings and narrower walls though.
>I will give you first spawn is bad but after you cap first it's much better
I mean the elevated 2nd spawn, it has a large HP pack outside so it has a lot of opportunities for enemies to camp there.
>Name an example where that isn't the case
Badwater pit, easy.

Kritz Me Please

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>ONLY point this happens is the corridor to point 1
The upward hill to point 2 is hell.
Of course after you get past it it's nearly smooth sailing.

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Based /tf2g/'s

I mean that hill is hell, but the discussion was "cart blocking 90% of the corridor" and that only happens once on frontier

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>It's a good feature because it allows changing up some basics of Payload map design
Don't change what isn't broken
>without creating bodyblock opportunities for RED where you just sit on the other side of the cart from the enemy crouched.
Shoot them?
>Literally the ONLY point this happens is the corridor to point 1, and you should be riding the cart at that point.
And the example I literally gave in my post and in the hallway at the top of the hill to third.
>Depending on the balcony position, not necessarily or just only for a split moment.
You can see the entrance to the house from anywhere on the balcony and you have no room to dodge because it's so fucking tiny, easy kill for the sniper.
>Ah yes a good map is designed around the assumption every attacker is playing Soldier at the time of spawning and wants to switch off to Soldier
Soldier is the core of every team, if you don't have any soldiers you're doing something wrong.
>Barnblitz's point 2 flank and stairwell leading to point 4 have even lower ceilings and narrower walls though.
I can rocket jump up the stairs on 2 flank. Last point I already agreed with you is bad but at least that stairway is very short.
>I mean the elevated 2nd spawn, it has a large HP pack outside so it has a lot of opportunities for enemies to camp there.
And do what? The only class that can really do anything here is demo and there's a side exit you can use to kill him. Any other class has to hug the door and make themselves an easy target which isn't easy to get up to in the first place or take potshots from below which are unlikely to kill anyone.
>Badwater pit, easy.
Teams always hold at the top of the ramp what are you talking about?

>You are trying to rocket jump past the first chokepoint in Badwater when suddenly this motherfucker bodyshots the shit out of you
How do you react?

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Based

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3 describes it

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Why are wannabe spy mains so retarded?
>spy thinks hes baiting me with his scout disguise
>tries to stairstab me
>fails
>tries to shoot me with his diamondback crits
>misses
>uses dead ringer
>predictably runs straight for the health kit
>kill him
>mfw he calls me a fucking nigger bitch in chat

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>play soldier
>enemy pyro smugly dances in place waiting for a rocket to reflect
>mfw i pull out my shotgun

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Doctor Piccolo's Extra Heavy Dosage

youtube.com/watch?v=lU1Qg1oWqz4

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>he pulls out his own shotgun after shooting him a couple of times
>switch back to rocket launcher and finish him off

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dragon cocks mmm

>when the spy tries to repeatedly stairstab while you move away and kill him

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lmfao

>he pulls out his Flare Gun
>yfw

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we did it reddit

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ruined

will b4nny ever be defeated in our lifetime?

Just shoot his face regardless

DO NOT BULLY PUPPY

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>Nut-Buster 9000

Good name, would pocket and annoy people on casual with.

when he moves to a new game
>guys no restriction 6s will change the game trust me
>froyo wins in no restriction 6s
at least they had one loss

>he doesn't like upward
I respect your opinion but I disagree

>guys no restriction 6s will change the game trust me
I think the point of no restriction 6s was to prove that half the shit compfags banned because they thought it was OP was balanced or irrelevant, not that it would totally change the game.

>Don't change what isn't broken
"Faster horses"
>Shoot them?
Through an invulnerable object that covers their hitbox while angles walking around to shoot at their location are protected by Sentries being tanked by Engineers with Wranglers? Yeah nice thinking there
>And the example I literally gave in my post
It's not an example of "the cart blocking 90% of the corridor" because it's not a corridor, it's open. And the top of the hill to third leaves at least one player's room as well.
>easy kill for the sniper
The player is only VERY briefly exposed. And again there's the other route. Unlike Barnblitz.
>Soldier is the core of every team, if you don't have any soldiers you're doing something wrong
That's not how class based games work. The point of classes is choice. If you don't want to play X class but the map forces you to, it's a bad map. And Soldier is not a foolproof way to beat that long open sightline to BLU's spawn doors.
>I can rocket jump up the stairs on 2 flank.
Scout, Pyro, Heavy, Engineer, Medic, Sniper and Spy can rocket jump up those stairs can they?
>And do what?
The exact same shenanigans any class can do while spawncamping, except you have a full HP pack right outside the door to keep you going and harass the enemy team nonstop, which is almost unheard of in TF2 maps to have a large HP outside the damn spawn.
>Teams always hold at the top of the ramp
Now you're talking out of your fucking ass man. Almost every single Badwater team ever will hold at the locations indicated with red crosses in pic here and here. Which shows that the highest point is not always the best point. You know I'm right.

Gotta go, nice chatting.

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Reminder that this is a beautiful friendship right here and only Heavy/Medic pass it.

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who buys the starter packs?

>play soldier
>enemy pyro with furry unusual cosmetics smugly dances in place waiting for a rocket to reflect
>run at him without firing
>he panics and starts using the flamethrower or spamming airblast at random
>blow him up
feels good fucking retarded pyro mains.

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And it was, because as it turned out froyo kept winning anyway.

>A blind retarded banana with AIDS and autism and no way of manipulating the controls could hold that last point with its non-hands tied behind its back and no teammates
Fucking lost it

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ah it's the "neither of us can aim but we want to stalemate the game" duo.

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>we're not great at video games but we're going to still have fun!
No greater evil exists for sure

Barnblitz Last Point is the defense Engineer main's heaven.

>play soldier
>enemy pyro smugly dances in place waiting for a rocket to reflect
>whip out my shotgun
>shoot him once
>mfw he just fuckin bails and runs back to spawn

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literally how
haven't been able to scam someone since fucking third party kikes began listing estimated prices, controlling the economy

>stalemating the game with minimal effort
yeah sure is fun having to face a wall of sentries on every payload last

>blocks your path

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There is no sweeter feeling in the world than burning a spy to ashes and using the Homewrecker to save the sentry he sapped, just to undo the only thing he succeeded at in his entire pathetic life.

>Stay near points of the map where it takes time for enemies to run up to you, and stay away from doors for the same reason
>If you're caught out by a pyro, run back in the direction they came; nobody expects a lone medic to M1 past a pyro to escape
>If a pyro turns out to be running over your team, medic counters flare gun spam and a well-positioned heavy (or sentry if you're not being rolled) will keep them away

no, it's literally impossible to scam people because there are no longer noobs running around with expensive backpacks

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>chasing spy as pyro
>he does the stair jump
>walk back
>look at him for a second and he looks at me
>burn him as he tries to run away with his fucking deadringer activated
>"Fucking w+m1 retard"
>leaves the server
Nothing more satisfying than putting cocky spies in their place.

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>shoot him with shotgun
>he switches to flare gun
>switch back to rocket launcher and blast him
Bullying Pyros is why I could never main Gunboats.

I'm talking about fucking 2012, when they still sort of existed. Even then it was impossible.

You can still bully them with gunboats if you're good

Does any long time player even fall for the stair jump anymore? I know every time I'm chasing a spy as pyro, the moment they jump I'm backing up and aiming high.

not him, but it's not enough that I should be able to kill them with rockets
I require a weapon that, upon seeing it, reminds the pyro that I have a tool that cannot be countered with the push of a button

The thumbs-up has got to be the best taunt in the game, and it's not even a taunt

>play heavy
>run at scout with fists of steel out
>he switches to his bat and runs at me swinging it
>I pull out my tomislav and obliterate his face
>schadenfreude at him
I can't believe how often people fall for this, it's like a jedi mind trick. Once they see the FoS out they just see red and start running towards you, it's like their brains shut down. I encourage every heavy player to try it out sometime.

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This happens to me just now

>demo on Badwater
>enemy team got a 6000 hours pyro with a dildo medic stuck in his arse
>they are doing the phlog+uber combo
>team is coordinated but has lower skill
>at least they hear what I said
>they push us to last
>pyro gets super cocky, jumps out of the window with his medic ready to taunt and clean house
>by miracle our 0-10 gibus sniper headshots the medic jumping out of the window and the pyro didnt notice
>lands and taunts to get crits
>land two stickies at this feet
>1 in a 1.000.000 chances: BOTH are crits
>smack the m2 button hard as fuck
>also kill a scout and a spy in the blast
>wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/9/9f/Demoman_specialcompleted10.wav
>"CRITS ARE FAIR AND BALANCED" script in the chat from the Pyro

I fucking love this game

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Only retards do, and most spies that think they're hot shit (they're not) cant fathom that someone aren't falling for their shitty tricks.
The ones I actually have trouble with are the ones with ungodly revolver aim, or the ones that makes sure to not be anywhere near you.
Of course, recently I've had a feeling that the kunai is being used more and it's fucking retarded how broken it can make spy.

>phlog pyro
just juggle him lmao

Ambassador Kunai Dead Ringer Spies are the the most annoying spies I have ever seen.

Unless if they're being shield-equipping douchebags who want it for the damage resistance, I feel demoralized whenever I face off a demoman with a better pill aim than me.

The diamondback is worse than the ambassador for me, since it takes no skill at all to use. It and the etranger are massive crutches that are the only ways for spy to be moderately useful

Barnblitz isn't that bad of a map, but man, is the final section in the RED spawn a pain in the ass with all the sentry nests and lack of room to push without an uber.

Stickyspamming.

god people in mvm are so fucking useless. i played like 4 hours and didn't get past wave 4. most engineers dont even move their sentries from sentry busters.
for mann up you basically have to pay for a ticket to play once right? so its basically just a loot box you have to grind for. what a scam.

>using guns in a melee duel
What a fucking fag.

The alternative is trying to shoot down a heavy who has massive ranged damage resistance while he casually walks up and crit punches your skull in.
With the increased holster time and melee damage weakness, switching to melee is usually the best option.

>muh honorabru dool
The only fag here is you.

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To his credit he was playing as smart as he could, getting charge with the detonator with our snipers and our spies who feed him in the backline and then taunting for the crit when it was safe. He just got cocky and got his ass spanked

which grenade launcher? this is what ive been using for years now

>play Heavy
>running with the Eviction Notice, the weakest weapon in the game
>run by enemy Scout and passively swing at him
>it was a crit, kills him in one hit
>Sanic my ass away from the on-hit speed boost
>(Voice): Thanks!

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>scout's melee arsenal is fine and has a good range of viable choice

sandman got kneecapped though

being able to MAYBE slow somebody down (but still let them shoot) is a joke

the best part is the fact that they've practiced it so often, they almost always jump off the same railing or step to do it, so its pretty much a free track. plus it makes for easier tracking on foolish spies cause now they're just gonna scamper on over to the stairs/ramp first chance they get.

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>sandman got kneecapped though
good
being able to stun in an FPS is a joke

i dont get it lol

>BLU sniper on Dustbowl last point
>trying to headshot an engineer at RED spawn
>click on his head
>headshot an invisible RED spy that was walking up the stairs from the ravine

I got 4 tour of duty tickets left Yea Forums. Two cities or Mecha engie? Pic unrelated.

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trade tickets for item you want

>Grenade Launcher
>Sticky Jumper
>Pain Train
this is objectively the most fun loadout in the game and you can't prove me wrong

>pain train
>not caber

>2019
>caber

hmmmmm

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>have 2k hours as spy
>still don't stair stab because I assume unless it's a blind turn on stairs like dustbowl stage 1 nobody is going to fall for it
>instead just go to the stairs and shoot them from above as they wait for me to jump
Spy is a total trashcan class, but he is a fucking hilarious one, at least

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3 decides to what value of cl interp i use

Default.

0.3

0.5000

>spy with asscreed loadout
>some edgy name like "The Revenant" or something
>tries to go for some epic trickstabs
>fails everytime

As amusing as this is I'm glad that none of them are competent, I'd probably get quite butthurt about being killed by someone like that

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oh no

being an egotistical tryhard with a class hard-countered by voicechat is so funny to me

I remember one encounter on a near empty server with one enemy soldier who decided to 2v1
nigga was flying around rocket jumping at mach 10 on dustbowl only touching the ground once in awhile to slap me with his shovel. He hit every rocket, there was no dodging. I tried every class I could just to deal damage, and we couldn't kill him once let alone hit him.

Was probably one of the people who literally do nothing but play dustbowl 24/7

I have no idea. I'm stubborn and will try everything just to scratch a god. But that's the only time I ever gave up.

...

>tfw went from excessively rocket jumping gunboats soldier zooming around the map to shotty soldier that only jumps when really necessary
what went wrong

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t. spy
play demo once or twice

>mideval mode full of interp abuse spies fagging it up

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Haven't played in some time. Why the FUCK did they nerf the Loch N Load?

it's spelled medieval retard

It was oneshotting light classes and pills don't have have any damage falloff.

that's me as well
it's what happens when you just be smart instead of fag that jumps into their death every tome

>airblasts your stickies

>tfw spy is my least played class because whenever I join a game there are at least two spies already on the team
I just want to practice so I don’t suck so much

>engineer with his back to a wall, upgrading a dispenser
>*BLAM**BLAM*
Revolvers are underused

What's wrong with interp

>tfw new panic attack

Its so good for rocketjumping into someone after you pelt them with one or two rockets

>uses quickie

>does laughable damage
>only able to blow up maybe one building before the uber ends
>pray engineer isn't using wrangler or rescue ranger

who needs uber to destroy sentries?
what kind of shitter are you that you can't take out a sentry with some combination of grenade launcher and stickies?

>who needs uber to destroy sentries?
anybody who is playing against an engineer with more than two brain cells who isn't lumping all his buildings together in a corner?

>trolldier on swiftwater fucking my shit team
>go engie and spam mini sentries
>[autistic screeching]

I kinda miss the old "sneeze gun" panic attack. It wasn't useful but it was funny to use in a while because it was so fuckin bad.

also assuming you're being ubered in just direct hit the sentry with pipes

>airblasts your pipes

Gonna dump some of my shitty webms

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hi stockholmanon
did you enjoy that personal rape session performed by 3rd worlders with 3rd world internet aimbotting with sniper from a couple of weeks ago
i sure did :)

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I wonder if he called medic intentionally

make sure to grab at least one waifu sign, Yea Forums
harness the energy of love

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Speaking of, is the best means of hiding your head behind other body parts always spamming your melee?

Something I made forever ago
youtube.com/watch?v=73ZsFNowVmA

if you dont take it seriously you'll have a good time

youtube.com/watch?v=SZFgpzpKYKs

Does anyone have that webm of the three spies bullying the lone engineer on Gorge?

glorious.
and I don't think I've seen that one.
Here's my second favorite clip I ever took tho
youtube.com/watch?v=GaPoI9ZDjHw

>tfw your YER steals the disguise so well your knife makes the pan noise

It's truly the little exchanges that make this game beautiful
>by miracle our 0-10 gibus sniper headshots the medic
Fucking kek, they always land at least one to keep the dopamine going

check out my sweet skills bro

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>mercenary park is valves newest maps
>still has chokepoint/hallway issues like their first maps
how could you not learn about good map design after the game's been out for ten years?

I am like agent smith.
It was also recorded using the very slow tf2 replay thing back in the day, so maybe it has to do with those huge render times.

those maps are community made I think

youtu.be/xhwualtquVU?t=57

Why is the Scout VA so fuckin based ?

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I use this.

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I like that documentry clip about the voice actors where it has Medic's VO laughing and making crazy eyes, and then a clip of scout's VO hitting himself with an oven pan and yelling

Add a 'Scouts Killed' counter to it, and it's 10/10.

If you ever see someone with the clan name "Vatan" or "ˢʳ" on dustbowl, just fucking leave. Trust me.

user...

Oh sorry I just saw it. I slept for 4 hours.

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>steals your medkit
>laughs at your burning corpse
Nothing personnel, pally!

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Wrong

>Medic VO didnt do the pony lines because he didnt want to do that crap

Based Travis

Like what? Every point in mercenary park has multiple directions to attack from

If you have problems getting to sleep, I recommend getting on your back and slowing your breathing down.
I started doing this last week and I went from taking an hour or more to sleep too somewhere around 5-10 minutes.
Try and slow your breathing so that an inhale-exhale cycle takes ~20 seconds instead of the 4 second it takes on average.
And keep it going, only focus on your breathing, get in a comfortable position, and you'll find yourself sleeping faster than you thought was possible.

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and it's still a closed in piece of shit with no fucking wiggle room.

It's not getting to sleep, it's staying asleep. I live under a carpenter and my neighbor's car alarm is so sensitive a fly's fart will set it off.

If you have trouble sleeping I recommend putting a potted jasmin plant in your room, it releases chemicals that help with that.

It's plenty open enough for anyone that isn't a sniper.

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there's barely any room since the majority of the map is indoors.
at most, you can rocket jump up to the second floor and that's it.

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>unironically trading for a regular iron bomber
is this autism?

There's enough room throughout the entire map for every class to fight comfortably in. It's not like it's Junction.

yeah, it's not junction tier, but it's still far from good.

t. sniper main who wants harvest/suijin levels of sightlines

sorry for wanting to actually fucking jump around, and utilise the actual movement mechanics of the game.

Maybe you should learn how to rocket jump in areas with low ceilings.

>defending bad map design

You say that like you're an expert on map design.

doesn't take an expert to spot shit map design.

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Having low ceilings is not bad map design you fucking baby.

it's not, but when the majority of the map is low ceilings, choke points, and corridors, then it becomes a problem.

Or maybe that is how you, someone who isn't an expert, perceives things to be.

nah, i'm right and you're wrong.
get owned, idiot.

Rate this shit.

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>owning an unusual
kill yourself

>majority of the map is low ceilings
The majority of the map is not low ceilings, every point is in an open area with a second floor. The areas leading up to point 1 and 3 also have a similarly open area.
>choke points
The map is absolutely not full of choke points. Every point has multiple paths and side passages that can be used to approach the point from different angles or flank the defenders.
>corridors
This is the only true point and yet almost every corridor is still large enough for scouts to fight in and for spies to sneak by without having to worry about bumping into people.

The only problem here stems from you being bad.

NNoooo.. you.

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Just backstab him

and yet cheats are abundant and any good sniper is actually just cheating. watch b4nny snipe and you'll understand it makes no sense that random no-names you run into are magically better than him

If only it was as simple as you put it

Based and dragon ball pilled.

Dunno. I just use TF2 to turn my brain off and it’s quite nice. Granted, I still suck at almost every class

They might be a trader, user. Having an unusual is entirely fine if you're flipping them for dough.

iron man dies

Mercenary Park was all Valve.

The stock revolver is really good tho.

Those people aren't cheating they are probably just better than you because I severely doubt your skill level is high enough to notice non blatant aimbots.

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I saw one where the top 3’a profile pics made a portrait of Putin.

>every point is in an open area with a second floor
it's barely fucking open.
take a look at the first point. there's a second floor but there's also fuck all room to move around on.
it's also cluttered with so much shit so the first point feels smaller as a result. this shit makes explosive jumping almost useless, and the tiny ass doorways/chokepoint encourages explosive spam.
>Every point has multiple paths and side passages
and these paths and side passages are tiny as fuck and often have barely any wiggle room due to the closed in walls, and low ceilings. this makes them easy as fuck to lock down, with close range classes like heavy, and more explosive spam.
>every corridor is still large enough for scouts to fight in
barely.
scout doesn't have it as bad as he does on dustbowl, but he still has a tougher time here, than on maps that are set mostly outside.

if the map was designed more like the part that's just outside of blue spawn, then it would've been great since that first part had a lot of room to actually move and jump around in, and explosive spam was far less viable.

I'm suddenly reminded of the hours I poured into Sniper until I got My Brilliant Career many many years ago. I'm also reminded I'm never afraid to bodyshot and I own up to this through my sniper rifle's name.

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With the soldier + B.A.S.E jumper, literally just jump into the air and shoot em down. It feels very very good.

blessed weapon, you will make plenty of kills with it. maybE.

Even last has the one side flank that always fucks the defense

Any Tyler news?

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It is though. You do realize half of this game is non-player bots right? And that people literally use TF2 to test cheats for games because it's such a good template to cheat and not get caught? If you've ever wondered why that f2p heavy seems to only be moving around with WASD and only uses mouse when enemies are near it's because he's literally a bot being tested by someone. People are finally catching on though and kicking suspiciously good spies on top of snipers. You can get away with it very easily on something like scout though because if you just double jump around while hitting all your shots people will just think you're a god because you're actually jumping and dodging stuff while 2-3 shotting other classes in every single skirmish.

why didn't he made a video on the vr games. there were loads of new string leaks.

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Soon
twitter.com/ValveNewsNetwor/status/1122945007265222659

>tfw haven't not cheated in TF2 for about 5 years now
the game's too hard, everyone else cheats so it's okay and it's easy to disguise it as skill

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Be the third spy and don't give a shit, that's what he's for. Alternatively shitpost with him when losing.

Alright, so what does your insane theory have to do with you being shit at tf2 exactly? its clear based on this response your brains straight broken.

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It's not a theory, I've used bots too. There's literally a bot invasion being tested as we speak, the one that spams the discord link.

I only cheat when the furry in the server is cheating just to spite him, but no one else except us knows that we're cheating. I hate furries so much, they literally have god-complexes

that's a very cash money scout.

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based blackman's casual remover