What is Steam willing to give that same dev?
Epic is willing to give an indie dev $2 million
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sales
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>The Switch though has seen a number of ports sell better than anticipated. Despite already being out for over three years, the Switch version of Shovel Knight sold better than any of the other versions at launch according to its developer, Yacht Club Games. Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap, Forma.8, and other games have seen similar success. SMG Studios noted in September that Death Squared sold more on the Switch in the first three days than all other platforms it released on combined, while the same thing happened to the Zelda-like exploration game Oceanhorn. And then there was SteamWorld Dig 2, Immage & Form’s action platformer that sold 10 times more on Switch than on Steam.
>Thread about Steam and Epic
>HURRR NINTENDO
How incredibly philanthropic of Epic, they truly are a paragon of justice for the games industry.
what they deserve, nothing
A mature platform that isn't over 10 years behind?
EA gave Ninja $1 million dollars just to play Apex Legends for a few hours on Twitch.
>EPIC MEGA GRANTS are $100 million
>this shitty dev got rused into handing their game over for only $2 million
oh no no no
Devs got the money, good for them. What’s good for me to install that dog shit launcher though?
>Dur why does a NES style platformer sell more to Nintendo's audience.
why don't they use the money to improve their shitty store instead of wasting it on exclusives?
So making the consumers not trust you anymore is worth 2 million+ dollars. Interesting.
>Epic, gives others money
>Steam, offers ways to get others money
Handup > Handout every time.
>Developers actually think sales are better on one platform than on multiple
Explain this then
Sales and a community that can grow
>250 thousand units
>when there are 10 million people using the EGS launcher
I'm really curious to see how Cuphead's sales go on the switch. It did over 3 million last August on Xbone and PC so doing over a million would be impressive.
There are 16 million Steam users online right now and look at the stats of these games
So, numbers don't matter, then?
>Peak is the same thing as Sales
Those numbers are abysmal though.
Okay lets look at Steam sales then, they must really help dev-
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>#NintendoSwitch community is a blessing! #BlossomTales is now a turnaround story: Humble indie dev @castlepixel can stay in business and continue making games. Love y’all! 3 months #Switch revenues surpass #Steam lifetime revenues 20 times!
Their game is already failed, what does it matter?
The fuck does Nintendo have to do with this?
Compared to what?
>retards think this is a lot of money in the industry
Ate they the ones that made that Interstellar Marines "game"?
If Epic is so great why does it have to pay for shills?
Epic's most selling game sold 250k copies, which means everything else sold below that
Assuming $60 per copy and Epic's 12% cut that makes $1.8m GROSS for epic. That does not include tax and other expenses they have to pay.
Epic has not made back their cash on ANY of their exclusives so far. Not even close to it.
The goalposts have to be moved since he can't actually find something to applaud Epic on.
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Jesus fucking christ how about y'all stop giving this retard free (You)s and start saging and reporting this garbage.
It's always the same fucking images, same text, same pattern of posting this shit and even posting nintendo news in threads about Epic.
JANNIES FFS BAN THIS NEGRONI.
>EA gave Ninja $1 million dollars just to play Apex Legends for a few hours
>y'all
And how about you kill yourself you wannabe cowboy trendy twitter basedboy
he ban evades
>have to pay for games
>have to pay for shills
>still lose
epic is the incel of platforms
Free hats?
>a record weekend
Not that hard when you've only had like 4 weekends.
>noooo do not post archived shit about my autismo spam nooo
Cope.
A functional storefront and customerbase doesn't exclusively play Fortnite.
This is the game they're talking about. A retro, pixel adventure game like Link to the Past but this time WITH A GURL!
It absolutely deserved to fail.
I don't give a shit about those links, the word "yall" just reeks of faggotry
>It absolutely deserved to fail.
Except it didn't thanks to the switch, but thanks for playing, Steam tard
How much do they pay you to make the same threads over and over again? or do you do this for free?
Not him but it's a Southern word. SJWs on twitter appropriated it because it makes them seem blacker.
It confirms Metro sold like horseshit though.
This game is still around? It was shilled nonstop for days and then discussion of it just suddenly stopped. Is it even still being played?
It failed on Steam. That's what the article described. Your reading comprehension is fucking terrible. Shut the fuck up.
I thought they was obvious when they bragged about it selling better than the worst selling game in the franchise.
>Epic pays them $2m
>and then forces other people to give them even more money if they want the game
Epic already paid them $2 million. I'm not going to pay for the game if they already paid for $2m worth of copies. I'll get my guilt-free copy from a torrent site.
Days Gone has 0 threads on Yea Forums and it still outsold MK11 in the UK - stop taking this board as gospel trends you mongoloid
>Epic don't care about devs-
STEAMBOTS BTFO'D
I don't see Valve being anywhere as noble and compassionate.
how many time you epicdrone gonna copypaste this?
>he doesn't understand peak numbers
user, there are these things called timezones
Take any game out there and you'll find that only a small percent of its owners are playing right now. Total owner numbers could be 5-20x what the peak is.
This. Chinese are looking for more personal information to use and for that they are willing to pay both developers and gamers from Party's funds.
>in the UK
lmao, who cares about what gamers in that third world shithole think
>this chinkoid scum shits out yet another thread
Epic never show current player count for this games
also, comparing peak user to sale number, you must be retarded as fuck
devs deserve literally nothing
*Steam rips off 30% from devs*
*Gaben dabs ash from his cigar in their eyes*
Nothin' personal
Epic cares more about devs than customers
Steam cares more about customers than devs
As a customer: Fuck devs
Simple as
Your right, epic doesn't care about devs, which is why they ignore them and go to ther publishers
>if you're rich, you can strong-arm your way into victory
Thanks for the lesson, Chang.
>too fucking stupid to understand what concurrent means
Also, what the shit is DBFZ even doing there? It's not a 2019 game like the rest, so why?
This. They keep saying how they owe the customers nothing so why should anyone care about them.
Why is epic artificially propping up bad games that would never sell in either store?
Oh thats right because they are a shit chink company forcing their way into the pc market who use underhanded chink tactics to get one over their concurrents
Glad Steam is just ignoring them, the epic store charade will lose 'steam' sooner or later hehe
That's literally the pinnacle of Chinese wisdom.
>victory
Valve doesn't give two shits about epic. If epic was any real threat, they would be ignoring them this hard.
Why are Epic threads always this embarrassing to read
>That analogy
Only embarrassing thing in this thread
Because insectoids are retarded.
>offering greed-stricken companies the devil's bargain
>noble and compassionate
>Why is epic artificially propping up bad games that would never sell in either store?
What makes you think Phoenix Point is bad?
>Epic cares more about devs
Read: publishers. They don't really care about devs either. Publishers are the ones benefiting from these deals.
What about indie self published devs like the Shakedown Hawaii guy?
Unless you´re independant.
ALL HANDS ON DECK, THE LANDLUBBERS ARE SQUABBLING AGAIN FOR OUR AMUSEMENT
What you meant to say is
>China is willing to bribe their way into monopolizing an industry that has access to your personal information
>valve just sits there atop its far away mountain doing nothing but making money
A passive and ineffectual tyrant is always preferable to an active and ambitious one.
Epic has ambitious plans about making gaming better and nicer.
Valve, passive and ineffectual they might be, would literally kill you for five dollars if they could get away with it.
Epic is still the lesser evil.
>losing company has to literally pay developers to get their games on their store
>winning company ignores losing company's provocations and gets paid by developers for a spot on their store
oh no no no
Actual jews > chinese jews
Not him but "y'all" evokes wholesome and homely emotions in me, and I won't stop using it just because some deranged trannies started using it on twatter of all places
Oh shit niggger what are you doing archive that.
Paying customers.
You watch them buy up the studios and IPs
Epic doesn't exist anymore, they are a front for Chinese technocrats, and the Chinese will slit your throat for a penny even if they can't get away with it. So go on shilling for the nice, friendly Chink corporations who are only trying to make things better for everybody out of the kindness of their hearts! As we all know, the defining characteristic shared by the Chinese and by corporations is altruism!
>Valve, passive and ineffectual they might be, would literally kill you for five dollars if they could get away with it.
>Meanwhile, Valve has an actual refund policy, constant sales, and a wishlist to keep track of when a game you want goes on sale.
Both are equally shit
I would take it
>Chinese are looking for more personal information
oh no, how terrible of them. Thank god I only used based western clients that don't do any of that.
>Epic has ambitious plans about making gaming better and nicer.
they bring exclusive cancer to PC nullified everything they done
>complain about chinese spyware
>post picture where the entire argument is about valve bypassing internet security
cool
I guess at the same time the novelty and limited selection of games at the epic games store makes sense. Been playing console the past year people don't have much of choices to migrate in different PvP games.
>refund policy
They were doing everything in their power to not allow refunds, they lost.
>constant sales
Valve does not decide sales on steam.
>wishlist
Well,hard to live without it when you have over 15k games on a platform
>valve bypassing internet security
>giving dev new networking tool means hacker now
epic shill retarded confirmed
Exclusives are fucking cancer, this is not up for debate.
Warz was 40$ I think
>They were doing everything in their power to not allow refunds, they lost.
The entire video game industry was doing everything in their power to abolish refunds. Refunds fundamentally dismantle the sunk cost fallacy of awful games. Every single publisher, developer, and provider was fighting tooth and nail to nickel and dime the consumer, from big companies like EA to Gamestop, to the littlest SJW indies. Refunds are as anathema to people peddling virtual entertainment as they are to casinos.
It sets a precedent.
This is a good point actually, I just realized games are incredibly designed for Jewish shit.
actually EA comply without a fight.
>just realized
it's the same point people were making since they first saw this epic store garbage
the entire premise is that steam screws over developers in favor of passing the savings on to the consumer, so in a fit of genius, Epic decides to SIDE WITH BIG BUSINESS OVER THE LITTLE GUY
THOSE POOR MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES ARE BEING OPPRESSED BY THOSE BIGOTED GOOBERGATORS WHO REFUSE TO SPEND THEIR MEAGER INCOMES ON THE LATEST CORPORATE FOCUS-GROUP-TESTED SCHLOCK
That's pretty fuckin cool, does Risk of Rain 2 use this API too? Because it seemed like Hopoo got online connectivity mastered out of nowhere.
>EA complied without a fight
because their games were labelled as gambling for minors by yuropoors
It was 2013 you retard. EA is more costumer friendly than steam, but you goys will suck gaben dick anyway.
christ you're fucking dumb. console games sell millions of copies, but they rarely have more that 40k people on the game at once. learn about timezones, incel.
reee gabe do something
Okay so Epic gives devs lots of money.
What you shills are unable to answer ever time is, what's in it for ME, the consumer? Fucking nothing.
No reviews, no tech support, no forums, no mods, no refunds, no achievements, no nothing. Especially when they pay to keep games from existing elsewhere, that's actually being a nuisance.
>EA is more consumer friendly than steam
somebody on neo-Yea Forums actually typed out this sentence
shoo shoo chink
wut? exclusives have been a thing with steam for years
>what's in it for ME, the consumer?
The satisfaction of knowing you supported the Chinese Communist Party's effort to subvert world institutions!
also Winnie the Pooh Tianenmen Square 1989 Chiang Kai-Shek
>Chiang Kai-Shek
Now that's new. Don't forget FREE TIBET and TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE.
boy you homos sure do talk about steam constantly
Refund policy? Valve tried to fuck their customers, EA gladly allowed it.
Lootboxes? Guess who was first
Steamdrones are the worst kind of tards out there, they truly think valve is customer friendly while even EA is better in that.
Easiest successful marketing strategy. Why buy ads on Youtube when you can get your target audience to watch the game demoed by their favorite streamer?
Valve is very supportive with devs if they get a decent audience. Unfortunately, letting in everyone means you can't help everyone
>anthem
>this sperg is back
There is no way to know this without asking Hopoo directly I don't think. Toss them an email they respond regularly.
that's nice and all but i still ain't buying shit from EGS
This, Alot of the indie devs that shit on steam are just extremely salty when valve doesnt try to help them.
Dude is this one of the big brain moment where you give the most retarded argument for your side so the other shill has to compensate for your retardation with a better argument
Epic is aggressive as shit to compensate for inferior consumer service and software. I believe you already know that, but just a recap. Steam has the advantage in potential customers and polished service, so that alone makes them considerable platform for a new game. Come back in a few months when Epic decides to compete for customers instead of business execs, and I will sing some real praises.
t. started using it around a year ago
it's okay to go to twitter user but don't bring this shit here you massive faggot
Lol, I am developing something similar right now with a budged of like 3,50. I don't even can do it full time because I work for my money on the side. I don't even want to get called indie-dev, because people might think I am one of those whiny bitches on twitter. We need a new word.
I have never used twatter in my life faglord, fuck off
Good picture,
exchange steam with egs and it fits current internet narative
Yes, nintendo friends get about 1 game a year that isn't a port and isn't complete garbage. Why is it surprising there would be a high attachment rate on most games?
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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
But the picture is correct though, Valve has been silent this whole time but then epic boi tim sweeney keeps blabbering on about hur durr steam is bad 30% is big boo hoo.
Epic seems to have lottery winner syndrome.Stupid moves can lead to imminent fall.
Actual feedback, so devs can make games that sell.
If the bourgeoise doesn't control the means of production, then nothing the bourgeoise wants to buy will be produced. In a free country, this means dev studios like Bioware Toronto go bankrupt. In a dictatorship like the one Epic Games is hoping will be voted into power in 2020, the bourgeoise are forced to buy what they don't want, literally at gunpoint, which further encourages the new overlords of the means of production to slack off even more, or even stop production entirely.
Doesn't seem sustainable
It's not. That's why Tim Sweeney is charging transaction fees and increasing the price of games outside of the US.
Epic is going to win in long term. Mental gymnastics and upvotes on reddit is not going to change that fags, now join a winning team or stay mad
Only selling 250k on an instalbase of 100m doesn't sound like winning to me.
What if they're just not interested in WWZ?
Could have gotten 500k more buyers if it was on steam. But whatever good for them i guess. my friend and me still won't buy it on epic.
Epic's instalbase are Fortnite kiddies. They're not interested in anything other than the latest meme skin and dance emote on Fortnite's cash shop.
Sales.
For now
You're right. Some day the kiddies will move on to the next big meme and leave Fortnite in the dust.
The Epic Game Store is Tim Sweeney's desperate attempt to stay relevant and he's failing miserably.