>LETS CREATE AN WORLD OF ENDLESS WAR SO SOLDIERS CAN FEEL LIKE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES
How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
>LETS CREATE AN WORLD OF ENDLESS WAR SO SOLDIERS CAN FEEL LIKE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES
How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
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Soldiers with PTSD who can't adjust to normal life and people who have no home or family because it was destroyed by war. The soldiers you kidnap are probably brainwashed though, Big Boss is a sort of cult leader really.
I mean, at least he puts his soldiers above everything else. Most nations with large militaries do it for the money and geopolitical gains.
By divorcing the story from good and sensible writing
We all make mistakes, don't you think, Raven?
A state solely dedicated to Ravens... I'm a realist, not some fool.
All that I've wanted to do was to go back to the ways of old.
Because men crave violence and masculinity; if you've served, you'd know. There's meaning in battle and sacrifice. Living a hundred years pursuing the next Keurig Coffee Maker, iPads and porsches and dying slowly as you slip into dementia is not a meaningful life. Worship at the altar of consumerism as a cog in an economic wheelhouse does not a purposeful man make.
If you're confused about how men might aspire to bring and end to the disillusioning slavery of 'peace', you're just inexperienced or dumb. Peace is literally the enemy of advancement, growth, and male purpose in the world. Conflict, death, suffering is what spurs growth, advancement, and ascendance.
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FUCKING BASED
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He's not wrong though
>Senator Armstrong is literally Donald Glompf!
How did they get away with it?
Nah. If he is suicidal he should just kill himself instead of dragging others into it
How's an honest warmonger supposed to make a living if there's not enough conflict?
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This but unironically.
>does not a "something" make
This is the second time I've seen this faggot ass phrase today, and now I'm starting to cringe at the thought of the type of user who might post this
I'm not suicidal, i'm honest. Men need violence and pain to keep growing; you don't grow strong by sleeping on soft sheets and eating Krispy Kreme daily, working hard for your masters in the economic wheel. You don't mean, or aspire to, anything, in this 'peace', you so ardently worship.
You would feel the same if you had ever been in a life or death fight with another man. It is an experience of growth second to none; his life or yours. It spurs you to love life, to grow, to change and strengthen, to protect what you love.
Men in the village need bears in the woods, it is what keeps them strong and true; if there is no threat, there is no man. Only women. Only children. You should aspire to be a man. To rise to conflict. To seek suffering in its forms, and master them. It will scar you, and it will hurt, but you will come out truer and better than before.
Sleeping on soft sheets for 90 years and sliding softly into the embrace of senility is a far more terrifying fate than any battlefield death alongside men of similar caliber and belief.
DOES NOT A FERTILIZED EGG MAKE MOTHERFUCKER
Shut up big boss
You're really stupid, you know that? Just because there isn't a literal bear in the woods doesn't mean life is without purpose. If everyone was like you we'd still be fighting wars with spears. If you can't find a purpose in life without it being killing each other like a bunch of dumb niggers, that's on you, don't try and drag everyone else down with your dumb ass though
>You're stupid
You're naieve, and probably young. You've never belonged, and you feel like belonging to an effete women's club of social moores is the height of ascendance. You're just mistaken.
>We'd still be fighting wars with spears, we're so free and advanced and wonderful now
You're no less slaves than 10,000 years ago, the material of the leash has just changed from iron to velvet. Does the velvet leash of your ipad and coffee maker make you feel free? Does it advance your soul and give you purpose and camaraderie? If you're male, you yearn for camaraderie, but you've been told you can't have it. It's taboo; you need to appreciate effete western ideals and neutralize your own power, etc. These are truisms. You can ad-hom me all you want, but it doesn't make it false.
I hope you suffer that you might become stronger for it.
>edgy stolen honor faggot RPing on Yea Forums
it's true. leading men of the past were so remarkable they created divine mythos around themselves. nowdays divinity is nowhere to be seen in first world. warrior kings are close to extinction, only existing as warlords in africa or military junta dictators elsewhere in developing countries.
where do i buy your book
>im retarded garbage so everyone i encounter is retarded garbage
Unfortunately yeah. I personally think we're about to reach the end of the age of decadence of the current US Empire and probably plunge into some real dark water of improvement. A lot of suffering is overdue, but that'll be a good thing as it'll spur a lot of growth and a lot of the inanity of what's going on with western culture will be expunged as the madness it is in the face of actual threats, within and without. I only hope I live to see it.
Thanks, whether sarcastic or not. I'm glad you enjoy.
>you are a slave for enjpying your life your own way
>I'm totally a free man for fighting wars for israel
When are you going to purchase an oil rig in international waters and can I come to Mother Base when you do?
>hello i am 12 how do cults werk
At least you're less of a fuckhead than Evangel.
Considering this is Yea Forums - video games, everything really should be taken with a grain of salt
Trump was never a senator, retard
Nor did he play college ball or could have gone pro if he did
god i wish i owned my own city-state
Why didn’t armstrong just rule the world through pro sports
That and Trump has never fired someone face to face, even on fake tv show.
>Fighting wars
>For israel
Differences. I'm all for agreeing with you that the cause of our recent conflicts is amoral and the US Empire has been hijacked by foreign interests, zionist and otherwise, but you're missing the point.
>Fighting wars
Not the cause. The war itself. The conflict. Men need and feed off of conflict, violence, struggle and pain. Honest strife. You can debase the cause of the war, or one side or another, but that's not what i'm saying. It is the conflict itself, that spurs the growth and ascendancy of men. Hope that clarifies.
>You don't mean, or aspire to, anything, in this 'peace', you so ardently worship.
Oh yeah, because being a disposable tool and killing people for someone else's dirty money is such high call for a human being.
>Sleeping on soft sheets for 90 years and sliding softly into the embrace of senility is a far more terrifying fate than any battlefield death alongside men of similar caliber and belief.
And yet here you are, an underage RPing shitposter on the videogame board Yea Forums instead of the self professed warrior embracing the glory and romance of the battlefield.
Why not just pick up a martial art like boxing if you enjoy combat? Or do you only get hard when you can actually kill your enemy
You are acting like you are anything but a waste of space.
One down. Twenty million dead.
yes give up your lives and die in the economic cog of the global war economy instead
fight in our wars, stain their beaches with your blood, become our greatest weapons to be tossed aside like trash
DIE FOR US
DIE FOR US
DIE FOR US
WE WILL HONOR YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR BLOOD AND SWEAT AND SCREAMING TEARS WILL OIL OUR ENGINES AND POWER OUR HOMES
FIGHT, DIE YOUNG, AND LEAVE A FRESH CORPSE SO WE MAY USE IT TO BURN OUR FIRES
Even if you don't buy in to this, this is basically what big bossu wanted to do-- maybe replace "man" with "soldier", to be more precise to Big Boss' vision, but this is pretty much what's rolling through his head-- his lifestyle and killing the Boss is what kind of drive home to him that being a soldier is a true, infalable vocation, and that a true soldier cannot be anything else.
This is why that last scene at the Arlington cemetery is so important in MGS4-- when he tells Solid Snake to just live, its BB admitting his mistakes.
True pottery is that Solid Snake, who was had surpassed Big Boss, spent the last year of his life in peace, doing peaceful things
I took up Tae Kwon Do for around 10 years when I was younger (12-22ish) and during my time in the USMC. I really enjoyed it. I think all men should learn a martial art, it is 'empowering'.
Great argument. Can't address subject material so it must be a teenager shitposting you. Not a mid 40's USMC vet with some down time who enjoyed the subject of the thread. No, no, not at all. That'd be impossible.
You understand Metal Gear better than most people user
i swear, anyone who thinks armies or military shit is good and is simultaneously a metal gear fan is basically the same as being a 40k fan and being an unironic facist
>mid-40's
you poor bastard
BiBo only did what he did because he was a dumbass who completely misunderstood the Boss' legacy and wish and went full retard after finding out Zero was just as big of a moron as him.
BiBo creating outer heaven was just him throwing a bitchfit at the world because he didn't know what else to do with his life and had no home to go back to, which is why he wanted to create his own home, for him and the people like him.
>Not a mid 40's USMC vet with some down time who enjoyed the subject of the thread. No, no, not at all. That'd be impossible.
Yeah yeah, post proofs faggot, so I can call you a retarded manchild instead.
Maybe it's just an animal. Can it even understand what we're saying?
Psychopaths constantly dream about sex and murder. They seek lust as their objective through one way or another. They are callous, have no heart and trick their followers into thinking that anything that they are doing has an actual purpose.
The ploy is that Big Boss only personally created Zanzibar Land truly because he has conditioned himself to thinking war is equivalent to both.
Even if a major chunk of his evil comes from his tragic backstory of the government using him and the events of Snake Eater, everything else has completely his own doing. Big Boss' war fetish was completely natural to him.
>yfw you wiped them all out, animal that you are
>How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
brainwashing, mk ultra was probably super successful in the metal gear world
Their smoldering corpses make a good pyre for the future you plan to create though.
This. Don't let some edgelord convince you that inflicting pain and suffering is necessary simply because it's in our capacity to do so.
This but unironically
I've suffered more than you can imagine, I have not become stronger for it. Your argument is only fit for those that survive. You should ask men like Raiden what do they think about never being able to find peace and only enjoying the state of war on a pathological level. Only finding joy in harming others.
cringe and fagpilled
Big Boss could only live for himself. The speech in Metal Gear proves that he only exists for the cravings. An utterly monstrous, self serving, evil, and demonic saying.
This is what makes him anti social and anti life. Statements like the one in OP basically crunch down to "I do it because it's fun" and that message is supposed to completely crush your heart.
The gist is that Big Boss is supposed to have no heart. All he can think about is how addictive a brutalizing, horrifying and pointless suffering conundrum like war could possibly be to him, it's all he knows or cares about.
I think it's worded a little weird. He wanted to train the kids so they could fight for their own ideals. The wording though makes it sound like he's the one starting the conflicts himself for a steady stream of kids.
Well, that's the real trick-- I love guns and military shit, but their are two sides to everything. Not just memeing some "duality of man" shit, but lots of things are more easily defined when they're compared against something else-- if there is no such thing as war, than piece of media delivering a message about peace is so asinine and obvious that it might as well not exist. So when it comes to things that are abstract, there removed from the actual events that a person has experienced, these contrasts between two opposites do all of the work of creating the "definition" of what that concept is.
With Metal Gear (and pretty much all western war media), which aims to present the harmful aspects of war in a cool, fun and exciting package, the message of the media (and whatever comment it makes about war) is made relevant and accessible to us because it has these contrasts that play into our abstract understandings about war-- so, enjoy MGS, liking military stuff but also understanding the nuances of how and why war happens are all part of the overall package.
TL;DR their is no reason why you can't enjoy military things and still understand what horrors war can create; the message of media which present cool military stuff and antiwar messages just plays into our limited understandings of an abstract "war" concept
Well he was also a character on a super famicon game with the narrative tone of contra.
>he's the one starting the conflicts himself for a steady stream of kids
yes, that's exactly what he's doing
No, it means exactly what it says.
They can leave if you're too incompetent, though. Like if you misuse funds and shit. They're free to quit whenever they want.
I think Kaz is just really persuasive. I'd like to know what kind of pay and benefits they get in Diamond Dogs, 'cause they're clearly treated well.
did you know you could spare Old King?
The phrasing is exact to exact with his actions, idiot. Big Boss is USING the CHILD SOLDIERS to BREED an ETERNAL CYCLE of CONFLICT, CHAOS, HELL and DESTRUCTION.
He even goes on to say that "conflict never ends" all of the bullshit he's doing it gives him "a raison d'etre to fight"-- a "perfectly logical system".
psycho Big Boss is coolest chad I know, I would like to meet his 64 yr old self someday
>even if that means I get shot down by a fucking machine gun
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The Dark Raven is nothing but an absurd myth, just like hope for mankind. Mankind will be destroyed by its own hand!
The only people rejoicing at the thought of war are those who never lived through one. You might think of yourself as "masculine" and "tough", but your post reveals you are anything but. It's the output of an individual so confused and insecure, he is willing to accept any ideology that is vomited at his feet. Your idea of masculinity is so typical for fascist movements with clear structures and simple world views. They prey on weak men without a purpose like yourself.
BiBo's face describes his charm. Absolutely everything about his face looks adorable but also deceptive. Too deceptive.
Once you are near him within a fifty foot pole, you will never escape his clutches.
>Big Boss
>no Small Servant
Nothing edgy like the guy in this thread, but martial arts is really good for your mental health.
Fencing and judo really dug me out of a pit.
I recommend some kind of combat sport or martial arts if you need something to fill the emptiness
>letting your competition live
The most based and redpilled post in Yea Forums
His body double's face, despite it being the same exact as BiBo but with heavier pores, wrinkles, darker skin tone and sever burns somehow seems to make less of an impression.
A mullet, through the use of mods, brings him closer to BiBo, but something is still off.
Fuck Big Boss.
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Okay, that's nice, but I'll take consumerism over dying in some sand blasted hell for a politicians who only invaded for oil. Your sacrifice isn't meaningful because you're dying for fucking nothing. Your struggle itself is a cog in a much bigger, globalist machine. Life is already a struggle. You're choosing to struggle for something in absentia of any true purpose or impact. You're an animal fighting a bunch of other animals for the corporate elite. You are not pioneers, explorers or visionaries. You are simply another corpse on the altar of politics and short-lived victories.
What if you loved the experience of dying in a sand blasted hell?
Always wondered why no one modded the MGSV gear into GZ, is this mod available anywhere?
Then you're a psycho/sociopath for actually enjoying it? It's not rocket science. Also why would a person like you with that kind of opinion be on Yea Forums in any way whatsoever?
Go out and kill innocents while getting killed yourself, it's apparently what you love, after all.
>What if you loved the experience of dying in a sand blasted hell?
You're similar to missing the point. You're arguing the purpose for which the tool is wielded, and the implications of the purpose.
I am saying you are a weapon, men are made for purposeful conflict and honed by strife, not the methods or strategies, or justifications by which men are wielded. I am rather asserting that you, as a weapon, as a being, need to experience conflict and strife to grow and achieve ascendance, community, and belonging with fellow men of purpose and growth.
A man who has never been in conflict, who has never suffered, is just a child.
So /pol/ larpers?
Getting yourself killed doesn't make you manly or heroic, it makes you stupid.
>is this mod available anywhere
Not that I know of
GZ's Nexus portal hasn't had any updates since 2015.
you sound pretty edgy bud
You sound like you're obsessed with men's ability to do damage, something every child throws around like a retard because it's so easy to be a negative force in any situation in life. Why are you vouching so strongly for men seeking conflict instead of building, creating and protecting things in their own lives? That's the difference between a child's idea of masculinity and an adults, it's responsibility. You just seem to vouch for telling men to go out and feel the thrill of fucking shit up for it's own sake. It comes across as shallow, edgy and a warning sign for how easy it is to lose yourself to basic instinctive impulses. Which I guess would be exactly the kind of person Big Boss would have exploited, if we're trying to stay on topic.
I kinda see where he"s coming from. Experience enough conflict and you'll adjust to it in one way or the other. I feel like going full Khorne is losing the battle, but I can understand why a macho world view might form.
The point isn't to die. In fact the whole point IS not dying.
>The only people rejoicing at the thought of war are those who never lived through one
Such a faggot statement that's been disproved a million times over, whether it be the French after 1871 or the Germans after 1918 or any other nation or people that saw several conflicts in quick succession. Humanity has never been a race that was scared of conflict if it felt that conflict would be in it's best interests. I dont care about whatever wider argument you and the other guy will get into, but I just really hate these kinds of shallow platitudes that are only used because they sound nice
>Worship at the altar of consumerism as a cog in an economic wheelhouse
The irony.
>It spurs you to love life, to grow, to change and strengthen, to protect what you love.
Yeah that's why veterans have more than double the suicide rate of the regular population, and are plagued by PTSD. Because it's such a wonderful life-affirming experience.
Big Boss, Venom, Liquid and Solidus are all pieces of garbage who fight for their own sellfish ideals.
They don't care about their soldiers, they just see them as a means to an end.
Solid is the only good member of the family because of his selfless motivations.
Are you really stupid enough to believe that wars are decided democratically? That the people who suffer most from it are the ones who turn around and choose to start another one?
Don't answer that, you are. This thread proved it already. I just hope no one is dumb enough to take you seriously.
>shallow platitudes that are only used because they sound nice
That is EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING in a nutshell.
That's the whole point of them, Big Boss, Liquid and Solidus could only live for themselves.
Solid outright says in MGS that he wants to live for someone else. A positive strength that Big Boss, Liquid and Solidus lack completely.
>The only people rejoicing at the thought of war are those who never lived through one.
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You'll spend most of your bullets shooting at nothing with the small hopes of hiting someone, you will be scared constantly about being in the wrong place at the wrong time, you'll lose good people and after killing a couple of people, nothing will ever be the same because you will find yourself enjoying it.
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War is ugly.
Do you know anything about history? Look at the two examples I already cited and you'll see broad public, and I could spend all night listing more
>American support for a civil war right after the Mexican-Anerican War
>American support for the Spanish-American War after the Civil War
>Carthago Delenda Est
Just three more, but I could go on if you want me to. You're a fool if you think that leaders can just drag everyone else into wars without some kind of public backing, and you're a fool if you think that all humans have to do to become pacifists is to experience a single war.
>Don't answer that, you are. This thread proved it already
This is my second post here, and I dont want to get entangled into whatever autistic mess this thread has become
>That is EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING in a nutshell.
All you did in response to my post was insult me and put forward some simple-minded idea that leaders (who apparently appear out of thin air) have complete control over their populace. A tad hypocritical of an accusation
Based user. What's your take on Armstrong's beliefs?
Are there any more characters like this? I think they're kind of cool.
Some people find their only purpose in being cannon fodder
>Yeah that's why veterans have more than double the suicide rate of the regular population, and are plagued by PTSD. Because it's such a wonderful life-affirming experience.
They kill themselves because they have to go back to being jackoff civilians.
When they come home, no one gives a shit that they blew up some sand people and guarded a dirt patch. The lack of acknowledgment drives them insane, so they either blow their brains out or take up substance abuse.
>SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES
How does that apply? Special snowflake as an insult is about people who want to be unique and special, big boss wanted more soldiers, and to make them more common
Lol you and every other "soldier" out there aren't any different to the expendable socks I wear every day.
Being proud for being used by the government is the same thing as prostitution only on a larger scale
Go to bed Big Boss
>How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
He literally just told you
>create victims
>save victims
>inb4 wouldn't they defect once they get wise
Didn't you hear his third piece?
>Train them
You think that won't include significant indoctrination?
As wild as this sounds to a civilian, you'd know this shit is basic if you read any history. Manipulation of a people's circumstances and desperation to gain their undying loyalty is basic shit.
And the special snowflakes thing is just the carrot on the stick, the real direction is to have numbers and through them power to carve out whatever circumstances you want.
>t. some truck-driving pogue who sat in a MOB all war and now acts like he's seen it all.
Thank you for your service o7
>Lol you and every other "soldier" out there aren't any different to the expendable socks I wear every day.
I didn't think it'd be possible to out-cringe the guy you're responding to, but you managed it. What a fag
Maybe if The Boss didn't say such vague shit everyone wouldn't fucking misinterpret it.
People want to fight, so why not make mad money on it?
Big Boss is way more interesting as an evil villain BUT I WISH I GOT A FUCKING MG2 REMAKE TO SEE THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENING
FUCK KOJIMA
Did any of the child soldiers get to fuck Big Boss? I imagine he would still be this sexy at 64 years old.
He turned war into a business. Everybody wanted in.
And what, in your opinion, does this turn men into:
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Because this does not resemble anything even remotely like the symmetrical warfare you seem to romanticize. It's just mechanized slaughter, a machine grinding men and their victims in order to churn out more profits for a select few, in order to create enemies because it was running out, in order to create fake jobs devoid of meaning, and to keep terrible people in power because they're on your payroll, in order to cover up the lies that started whatever war in the first place, be it OBL being in Iraq, or Saddam having WMDs. Life has so much more to offer than destruction for destruction's sake. Creating things for one. Have you ever created anything? Do you know the feeling that comes with it? The need to create more, and better things?
Warfare has its place in the grand scheme of things if there is such a thing, and sure it's a "formative" experience for anyone caught in it. But if the price for your "formative experience" is millions of civilians murdered and a region in tatters, at some point culminating in another gruesome world war then it's not worth it. If the following webm is your idea of "men" then you don't know shit, about what life is, how precious it is, and you haven't ever put in the effort to think critically on what it means to be human. If you feel you need to kill 20+ men, women and children in order to sate your killing appetite and become a man then you will never be one, and you should do me and the world a favor and re-examine your life and how you came to be so messed up that you unironically arrived at these conclusions.
Thread theme.
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Larp or not, why do actual marines keep pushing their time in the marines on everything? Nobody cares, you're nothing special, your opinion not any better for being a jarhead.
Someone needs to do one of those "spider angrily typing at computer" type edits excepts it's Big Boss clattering out this message.
So stop posting on an Egyptian basket weaving forum and start a fight club where you and other like-minded individuals do combat to the death. Without guns. Like a man. Do it right now, I'm not stopping you. You might get arrested if you beat your opponent but prison should be another "growing experience" you would probably relish. What are you waiting for? Every day you don't do this is a day wasted that you could've spent being a big strong man beating other strong men in single 1v1 combat. It'd probably be best if you take up kickboxing first, and have someone kick you in the nuts repeatedly so you'll know what to expect and how to suppress the pain of a real-life no rules dirty fight. Go on then.
It's not that ridiculous, what's ridiculous is what you've been brainwashed into thinking is "normal" behavior even though it's a propped up paradigm that hasn't even composed of 1% of human existence.
Don't worry though. We'll be going back real soon.
Kojima is horrible at plots, he is good at themes however.
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why did this post get so many (you)s?
FUCK ALL THESE LIMPDICK LAWYERS AND CHICKENSHIT BUREAUCRATS
FUCK ALL THIS 24/7 INTERNET SPEW OF TRIVIA AND CELEBRITY BULLSHIT
FUCK AMERICAN PRIDE
FUCK THE MEDIA
FUCK ALL OF IT
AMERICA IS DISEASED, ROTTEN TO THE CORE
THERE’S NO SABING IT. WE NEED TO PULL IT OUT BY THE ROOTS
WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN
BURN IT DOWN
AND FROM THE ASHES A NEW AMERICA WILL BE BORN
EVOLVED BUT UNTAMED
Pardon my pedantry, but I think you mean story.
Plotwise it adds up, if a very dutiful soldier turned hyper terrorist with enough manpower and resources available they'd likely end up around the same narrow militant philosophy and practices, take Kurtz in Apocalypse Now, granted his manpower was clueless natives and his resources were scraps from 'Nam and not the conspiracy and super science of the MG universe but still.
Where Kojima trips over things is the story's attempt to contextualize its plot, to tie things together and explain them, often excessively. It's there you see the weaknesses of the presentation despite the principles and philosophies used as its themes.
Remember what Gray Fox told Snake at the end of MG2? He hates war but he needs it to survive. Conflict is in his blood and Big Boss gave him, along with others, a place where they can always fight and have a purpose.
And this stops the Patriots how? Talk about skewed priorities.
>enemy of advancement, growth
nah, the opposite is true
it'd just be next to impossible to get where we are purely on peace
honestly can't tell if this some pasta or you're actually edgier than a gillette factory
Well BB stole OILIX, which I imagine was a pretty decent blow against the Patriots
Seeking conflict for the sake of conflict is a hollow, childish act. We learn from strife to avoid further strife. Nature itself grants humanity the obstacles they need to surpass and thrive; when the environment offers no threats, we ought to appreciate the peace, and not spawn problems where there are none.
Because it’s ridiculous
I'm actually surprised in that AI Colonels insanely long speech in 2 they never once mention whether they needed the war economy or not, just that they used Shadow Moses to test contingency against a potential worldwide disaster.
Or maybe they did and I forgot.
But also well written.
Armstrong did nothing wrong (besides losing)
Peace and tranquility are the treasures of domestic dogs who have forsaken their fangs.
i disagree, the opposite of your opposite is true.
cringe
>test contingency against a potential worldwide disaster
no, test their public opinion manipulation abilities (and then use them to implement the war economy)
“Theywrote in the old days thatitis sweet and fitting todiefor one's country. But inmodern war, there isnothingsweet nor fitting in your dying.You will die like a dog for no good reason.”
>t.pampered human detached from reality and repercussions due to the luxury and safety provided by society and assumes their own psychotic impulses implies predators in the wild enjoy needless conflict even though nature has been examined extensively to be by and large ergonomic by default and design and the majority of altercations rely on the least amount of energy and effort wasted, with preemptive warning and intimidation tactics being preferred top to bottom on the food chain to keep order given a system in perpetual chaos is non-beneficial to anything within it, aside from the hairless apes who pond hop away whenever their impulses create a remote inconvenience.
You've forsaken your basic sense
the Germans after 1918 only wanted another war because they lost and they only succeeded in the first place because nobody else on the continent wanted a war and refused to fight until it was too late
>growing strong till you aren't anymore anyway
What a meaningful life you got there, this definitely isn't on par with literally every other form of escapism on the planet, this is the real deal.
You sound like a god damn coward honestly. Better go die on the battlefield before you get the chance to think about what a worthless life it was.
Several boomer years ago the internet would have been included in that big blue pie user.
Not all that spending is bad.
Peace is a lie. War is truth, and Violence is eternal.
Based autistic edgelord. Here's another (you)
My grandfather and father had great experience of combat, so did many million of men. You hear them less because they didn't spend the next years talking about it.
Other user types in an edge lord manner, but he is not wrong.
I'm personally not into it (perhaps too much of a pussy to do it myself) , but I'm not so consumed by the soi life to be unable to understand that some men just like this militant life of struggle. I don't blame them or consider them sad or inferior for not complying with the petty bourgeois ideal.
>True pottery is that Solid Snake, who was had surpassed Big Boss, spent the last year of his life in peace, doing peaceful things
True pottery is also that Solid Snake did this because Big Boss told him to after realizing it himself earlier. Decades spent fighting the patriots and defending war as a field of work for soldiers with no home to go back to, only to realize that everything he'd done was complete bonkers and all those people would've been better off living peaceful and fulfilling lives in their homes.
So what you're saying is that Big Boss was the better person in the end. Glad we cleared that up.
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For what purpose do we desire advancement and growth, if it's purpose is the destruction of life. In my opinion a stagnant, but peaceful society is better than an advanced society fixated on war.
People need not live with the fear of death for the fetishistic adoration of violence of a few.
>this is your brain on Chaos
Law and order is what elevates us as a species
The current world is sort of a case of cake and eating it too. We live in peaceful times but that's at the cost of proxy wars in 3rd world shitholes set up by democracy vs Communism governments so they can stroke their dicks.
It's such a setup it's almost laughable. Like Pepsi vs Coke but with ideals.
you're a retard if you think he was talking about a literal bear, fucking imbecile.
include me in the screencap
Big Boss is a psychopath who thinks it's okay to be a cunt after he lost everything he had.
You do realize that BiBo doesn't care about violence, right?
He only bothers to show affection about war. Yes, war involves violence, but war is more than violence alone.
Damn, we really do live in a society.
BiBo as a monster is based, would definitely hang out with him.
>wanting to hang out with a psychopath
Why?
Psychopaths are
>based and blackpilled
>Just what Yea Forums needs in their life, a crazy man to pair along with a low lifer gamer that hates women and minorities
>Terrorism is cool
>They're nice in bed
>They look handsome and great, even in old age
>They will fuck you over with a knife and you'll enjoy every single solitary second of it
Pretty sure your grandfather was a faggot (just like you) who got to sit way behind the frontline taking the occasional potshot at the enemy. If not, he was one of those displaying symptoms of a sociopathic personality disorder like all the veterans who enjoyed killing. Provided anything you said wasn't a load of bullshit.
Conflict may be part of human nature, but actually engaging in it changes the individual. This has been proven time and again.
You're probably a scrawny manlet who has been bullied in high school. The dumbasses who subscribe to this line of thinking do so out of a feeling of powerlessness.
Take this shit to where it belongs
IF YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THE FUCKING STORY OF A "GAME" THAN ITS GAMEPLAY, IT'S NOT A FUCKING GAME
>blackpilled
>hates specific demographics
>thinks terrorism is cool
Those are not characteristics of a psychopath.
Psychopaths don't care about politics, nor about other people in general.
They'll only socialize with others if they think they can take advantage of them.
They are incapable of seeing other people as friends, or equals, just as tools.
Psychopaths are violent and thus they instill terror because it's satisfying. Also I was trying to effectively say "a crazy man to pair along with a crazy man" and blackpilled was more of a fucking joke.
You know, red pills, blue pills, upvotes, downvotes? Take some things lightly, newfag.
>Just what Yea Forums needs in their life, a crazy man to pair along with a low lifer gamer that hates women and minorities
>Terrorism is cool
>They're nice in bed
>They look handsome and great, even in old age
>They will fuck you over with a knife and you'll enjoy every single solitary second of it
>The soldiers you kidnap are probably brainwashed though
I believe it said in V that Ocelot "encourages" them to join your team when you kidnap them.
Psychopaths aren't inherently violent, they are just people incapable of feeling empathy and incapable of seeing other people as anything more than tools to use for their own advantage.
It's just being incapable of feeling anything towards other people does make a psychopath more likely to hurt or kill.
How much of a newfag are you
>"pill" on Yea Forums means "vote"
>"I hate women and minorities" means "I am a low lifer"
Can you even understand that my post was half true half humorous? Holy fucking shit, let me explain it to you
>Yea Forums is crazy and so are psychopaths
>psychos in general love violence and Yea Forums loves violent video games
>this is unironically true
>this is unironically true
>if you took this seriously you are a faggot
Yes, although I am still right:
thisisinsider.com
BiBo?
Where the fuck did you learn English? A discount school?
Well we didnt have a big war for a quite some time and look what happen with the new´´males``
bunch of basedboy snowflakes
You sound like a melodramatic faggot.
settle down hitler
Every chaos hero in SMT from an ideological perspective
>How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
It's actually very simple to understand. Every person has to have purpose in their lives and when being a soldier is all you know with the battle field being the only place where you feel alive it becomes a drug to you i.e. adrenaline junkies.
>video game stories
>good
Pick one
>Not a mid 40's USMC vet
Proof?
>pogue
Nigga
This is the most edgelord shit. Might as well be a serial killer.
basically he fought for isarel and argues that his experiences and struggles are the only ones that matter and all other struggles in life like obtaining a degree in a university, building the foundations for a healthy family, or even starting your own company are irrelevant. it doesn't matter what your accomplishments are because you're not the same person as this fag so you're always inferior.
>How the hell did he got people to follow him in such a ridiculous quest?
By tricking his followers into thinking he had an actual premise. In reality, he wants chaos just for the lulz. It's called manipulation and psychopaths always employ this tactic whether they go.
A psychopath, who is only able to see others as useful tools, purposefully deceives its "tools" with lies and ostensible statements. They might also be honest in some moments, but this only to manipulate respect, furthering its "tools" to do its bidding. All of these characteristics make a psychopath very dangerous.
Big Boss is a psychopath. This is his evil plan in a nutshell, but elaborated to detail all the fabrications:
>Start a war.
>Cause many subjects to suffer in that war.
>Save those subjects from the suffering.
>Indoctrinate the subjects into believing that the suffering they experienced is a reason to fight back while also being a reason to fight in general.
>The subjects then become your tools, or in terms of what the tools "think" they are, soldiers.
>Trick everyone into thinking that "wow, Big Boss is doing heroic, good deeds by saving us all!"
>The tools will then do Big Boss' bidding.
>Tool: "We'll do anything you say, Big Boss, as long as you help us fight! We'll never refuse a request as long as we are under your roof!"
>Bibo: "Go steal some nukes for me. Also, invade that country right over there. After all, you want me to be known for everything I do for you all."
>Tool: "Sure thing, Big Boss! I will do these totally evil things because you saved me more than twice! You've assisted our troops in [insert war here!] We couldn't do anything without you!"
>Tool: "After all, Big Boss, this war might be our only life, and we'll keep fighting because it will mean something in the future.... r-r-right?"
This is how a psychopath exactly thinks. A psychopath's actions have no actual purpose, they're just entirely acts.
>conflict = suffering in this day and age
lol no edgelord. You get dumped in, say, the Middle East with all the little toys you could possibly need and go absolutely steamroll some tribesmen equipped with AK47's. So much suffering am I right? Now if you were a Soviet soldier during the brutal siege of Stalingrad, okay, you've been through some shit. Have you experienced anythingeven remotely similar? No? Then stfu
Spoken like a true video game boss.
I'm gay for Big Boss!
no, you're just gay
>Tae Kwon Do
I you were full of shit, but I can't believe people are still taking the bait at this point
Have sex