Are you getting ready for the change?

Yeah, I ain't playing support nanny for every faggot switching from windows 7

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>When your life is so empty and meaningless you use a shitty OS to be a special snowflake

>Good lord, it's awful, not a single software worth a shit is available.

You will NEVER get a Linux system that can be used without the terminal.

The terminal isn't shit like Windows, and being able to do almost everything through the terminal is one of the things that makes Linux better.

For example you can turn monitors on and off, or change the resolution and refresh rate, through the terminal.

This means you can create a small script to turn monitors on/off, you could even keybind this script.

On Windows you would always have to do this fully manually by opening graphical settings.

I'm trying to decide, Ubuntu or Linux Mint?

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Ubuntu
Specifically Xubuntu because it's the best version.

Mint is based on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu tends to get more frequent "updates" that fuck with the system. So Mint if you just want something stable, Ubuntu if you want more cutting edge stuff.

someone tricked me into installing debian. should i switch to Ubuntu?

Yes. I also fell for that trick. Ubuntu works great.

Try them both out on a live cd/usb and see which one you like better.

PopOS

>Want to find a specific piece of niche software I've accumulated over my decade of windows usage
>"LOL you can't just DOWNLOAD software from websites! You have to do a search for specifically curated software packages from within the OS and hope the handful of people that take care of your distro have added it!"

This is fucking terrible. You're basically under the thumb of the penguin and if they haven't ported or programmed the software you want you have to be an SSS-tier programmer with decades of knowledge to compile it yourself. Don't get me wrong, I like how "it just werks" when you download mainstream programs like web browsers or media players, but if you want something niche you're fucked.

To elaborate, I recommend against Mint because the team is having personal problems and Ubuntu is kind of the standard Linux, especially for newfags. You'll get the largest support base, and if you want stable over new shit just get an LTS release (currently 18.04).

If you want.

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I tried Linux and then just never wanted to go back to Windows.

I got a taste of the extreme power you have using a Linux system, and could never go back to Windows.

Windows feels like a locked down console OS to me. I feel like there's no software, and everything is really hard to do.

There has never been anything I couldn't run that made me want to go back to Windows. I just don't give a shit if I can't play something like Fortnite because of their anti-cheat.

i want to try and switch but it can't run all the games i need yet and there's software i'm using that wouldn't work in linux like premiere pro
i'm just going to wait a little longer

What program in particular are you looking for? There's probably an appimage or even a repository out there that you can add to your system. Most of the shit I have to compile is niche terminal stuff like sc-im

install gentoo

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what's the difference between the different Ubuntus?

>not just having a dual boot system with Windows for gaymin and niche shit and Linux for everything else

you're supposed to do it yourself, only faggots programmers shill for linux

>Having the microjew on your computer in any form
I used to be like you, but I realized there were only a couple of games I couldn’t play on linux anyway, so i got rid of windows

This 1000 percent

Just use normal Ubuntu please.

Debian has very old packages, I would never recommend Debian for a desktop system honestly.

You could switch to Debian testing without reinstalling an OS.

>>Want to find a specific piece of niche software I've accumulated over my decade of windows usage
Random old small Windows applications almost all work through Wine.

>>"LOL you can't just DOWNLOAD software from websites!
Downloading and running binaries from websites is a retarded and extremely insecure method of software distribution.

You actually can download Linux binaries like this now though with AppImage, Flatpak, etc.

>you have to be an SSS-tier programmer with decades of knowledge to compile it yourself.

Damn dude, install the dependencies through your package manager, run configure/cmake or whatever for the build system they're using, then "make"

Fucking impossibru for my smol brain

I've been using linux since 1998, and no, I don't feel ready to change this.

I did switch from debian to gentoo for desktop box recently though (still using debian on server).

Well, I do have a windows install that I almost never use (pretty outdated and a mess I didn't bother to setup well -- didn't boot it in a few months), just for if really needed. But games typically run just fine on wine+dxvk.

I would never recommend switching to a life long Windows user, but at the very least you could try dual booting so you can boot into Linux every now and then and try to learn it. You gotta ween yourself off of Windows, switching cold turkey is just going to make you frustrated.

Well, there are different "flavors" that come with different-looking graphical interfaces, and there's a new version that get released every six months. I tend to recommend Xubuntu, the XFCE flavor, because XFCE is lightweight and fairly similar to Windows, but whichever one you install at first you can switch to others just by installing a package.

Then they release a new major version every six months (18.04, 18.10, 19.04, etc). These are like new Windows versions, and while you don't *have* to upgrade it's worthwhile and much easier to do so.

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>Dual boot.
You can just pass through your gpu to a virtual machine running windows and play games with like 90% of native performance. I have windows running on one monitor and linux on the other, pretty comfy.

> switching cold turkey is just going to make you frustrated.

Actually the best way to learn.

ou can always reinstall Windows later. What do you lose? You can't play Fortnite?

>Damn dude, install the dependencies through your package manager, run configure/cmake or whatever for the build system they're using, then "make"
I like how you wrote this expecting it to be simple to someone who's never used Linux. This is why nobody uses your meme OS.

wait, what's changing? what's going on?

What program do you actually need compiled? I'd be happy to help you get it installed if the readme file isn't helping, but usually that includes a recipe.

Windows 7 dies January 2020

I've found that lots of legacy software I still use just doesn't work well with WINE. Not only that, but lots of Linux ports have massive performance gaps compared to Windows on the same hardware.

I still use Linux, but it's still deficient in terms of gaming.

What is Wine exactly? Is it a program you run in the background that makes .exe files function? Or do you launch the program and then run .exe files inside it like it's a VM?

>You can just pass through your gpu to a virtual machine running windows

No you can't without expensive hardware that specifically has the PCI-e slots in different IOMMU groups.

Some Ryzen motherboards can do this but can't passthrough a USB controller, making it terrible for gaming.

The only systems that can passthrough both GPU and USB controllers are Intel's HEDT platform systems.

Currently that means 2066 socket processors and x299 chipset motherboards.

These are retardedly expensive for the performance you get.

So don't tell people this bullshit.

why should I? win7 isn't going away
I haven't updated the thing in years, windows dropping support is a non-issue
fuck off with your meme OS

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this, but unironically

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ok, that's kind of what I thought. So Linux actually has plenty of games?

youtube.com/watch?v=pvjSNoGL1-g

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>I've found that lots of legacy software I still use just doesn't work well with WINE.

Name one.

> Not only that, but lots of Linux ports have massive performance gaps compared to Windows on the same hardware.
Talking about video game ports on Steam?

Because that's true, they're almost always shit.

On the other hand, almost all open source software is developed on Linux system for Linux, and the Windows builds/ports are usually shittier.

support is an issue because it tends to extend to other developers

win7 is just going to become another winxp that no one is bothering to make things work on anymore, not just microsoft

I honestly like most things about linux, but video games remain a dealbreaker. Even if compatibility itself is slowly getting better, there are still problems with spotty performance on linux, and added input lag due to the way it handles fullscreen applications.

Literally nothing is going to happen to Windows 7 in 2020. Don't fall for the meme OS.

It's like .NET or Java or something, but for the win32 API. It translates Windows system stuff into Linux system stuff so Windows programs can run semi-natively.

Depends on what you want to play, but on the whole yes. I use Linux exclusively now.

it's always kind of sad when a "native" linux port runs worse than running the windows version in wine+dxvk

Yup, just got a few textbooks from a discount bookstore and started looking for distros this week. Feels good to have the option open to me because I'm not the kind of braindead retard on Yea Forums who thinks "cd /" is some advanced Ph.D. level coding that requires 10 years to learn.

...So it's like the first thing I said?

Wine is a compatibility layer to run Windows programs on Linux.

It is not a background process, it's something you run.

"wine game.exe"

Like this.

It creates a WINEPREFIX, which is basically a folder containing a fake little Windows filesystem that the program thinks is your C: drive.

It is not emulation or anything like a VM, usually if something runs through Wine, it runs with very good performance.

DXVK is something you can add to Wine to make DX11 programs be translated to Vulkan, which is extremely faster than the built in DX11 -> OpenGL in Wine.

does using Wine affect the performance of the games?

I haven't owned a PC in well over a decade due to circumstances making it mostly pointless. However, I miss my Windows XP. I was wondering, as someone relatively braindead, if I should even bother trying to build one and run a Linux variant on it? I'm not too worried about gaming as I feel most of what I want to play is not only resource light it's also likely popular enough to have solid Linux compatibility. Are there any games in particular from the past twenty years that Linux simply cannot handle?

it does but typically only matters if you want to run games at 4K which tend to be worse

rest of the time you'll get your 1080p@144fps just fine

Nah it's more like a library. It doesn't run in the background at all times.
Sometimes. For a while there wasn't a good implementation of DX11, so games would have to run in DX9 or OpenGL mode and that could impact performance.

lubuntu niggas unite!

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You can play over 80% of Windows games on Linux. Through Wine/DXVK

protondb.com/

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Intredesting. So can I run multiple programs through wine while also running native Linux programs?

>PCI-e slots in different IOMMU groups
Just use a kernel with the ACS patch?

Yes.

If a program works through Wine, it's basically almost like a native Linux program.

For a very long time Linux couldn't run The Sims 1. It can now though.
Yep.
Xubuntu > Lubuntu > Kubuntu > Ubuntu

Well even if you can't do usb passthorough synergy still works perfectly fine. Although i could do both gpu and usb passthrough with my 3 year old motherboard with B150m chipset. Haven't kept up at all with the tech since though, are the IOMMU groups really messed up in the newer ones?

>have a modern gaming PC
>run a desktop designed for 15 year old shitboxes

>>"LOL you can't just DOWNLOAD software from websites!
> they haven't ported or programmed the software you want you have to be an SSS-tier programmer with decades of knowledge to compile it yourself.

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maybe I'll switch after all. I learned linux command line shit at my old job, and fell in love with it, but never put it on my main home computer due to vidya. What's a good distro for someone who isn't a complete noob?

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>logo for the non-free kernel

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I'm just gonna install Windows 10 in 2020. By then all the kinks should be worked out and I should be able to run all the Win7 programs I want. It'll certainly have more compatibility than trying to get them working through Linux/Wine. Don't even try to deny this, Linuxfags.

>willingly using windows 8.1

why

Ubuntu or one of its variants, probably.

Most of the games that Linux can't run now are because of:

- Anti cheat systems (Fornite and Apex Legends would run perfectly if the anti cheat didn't block)
- Some older games that use Windows Media Player (quartz etc.) libraries to play videos
- Some newer games using Media Foundation, even though most (Like Monster Hunter World and Resident Evil 2 Remake) can work with a Media Foundation workaround github.com/z0z0z/mf-install

All 3 of these things are being worked on.

Because installing one tiny open source program turns it into a better 7

Open-shell (classic shell but open sourced) and you can get the windows 7 icons back with a tweak. spend 5 minutes disabling tablet shit and it's nu-windows 7 until 2023. 7 drivers also work on it, sometimes use it to test compatibility and will use it for Xenia since it doesn't work on 7.

Absolute Linux brainlet question here: I've been doing some research for the past few days and apparently there's like 5 billion different versions of Linux you can install. How much does my choice of Linux matter? If I just google the best noob friendly one and install it is it going to fuck me later? How hard is it to switch between versions after you've used one for a while?

Basically I'm afraid of taking the plunge because I might install the wrong version and get fucked for it later. I don't want to learn one for 6 months and then find out I gotta start from scratch and download/reinstall all my Linux shit again because I picked the wrong version or something.

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The answer is always Ubuntu. If you ran Red Hat at your work then Fedora might be worth your time since they have the same internals.

oh yeah, I should've mentioned we used CentOS

For any people seriously considering to convert. Get Pop!_OS, it has built in nvidia drivers, built in power settings and is ubuntu based so everything can be solved by googling for 10 seconds.

>How much does my choice of Linux matter?
It does not. There's no limiting factor if you install Ubuntu, the most common newfag choice- you can go as deep and autistic as you want there as you could in say Gentoo, just in Gentoo it's mandatory.
>How hard is it to switch between versions after you've used one for a while?
Add a separate partition for your /home (the user folder) and it's not hard in the slightest.
Then yeah, Fedora or CentOS if you really want the Red Hat feel. If you aren't attached to RPM packages then Ubuntu.

>defaults to gnome desktop
Big oof.

I cleared out a small chunk of my SSD and gave it a shot. Couldn't even figure out how to change the sensitivity, since that "constant mouse deceleration" option didn't even fucking exist for me. I'll stay with the retard-proofed software.

Just install Ubuntu. It's one of the most used distros and commonly known for being newbie friendly. There's nothing about it that would fuck you up later.

>apparently there's like 5 billion different versions of Linux you can install. How much does my choice of Linux matter?

Almost anything you can do on one distro you can do on another.

The main difference between distros is what packages they ship in their repository, and the package manager, that's it really.

There's actually only about 8 or 9 Linux distros.

The rest are actually just forks that use the real distro as a base.

Debian, Gentoo, Arch, Ubuntu, Fedora, RHEL (CentOS), OpenSUSE.

And then there's a few newer hipster distros that actually have created their own packages and I would classify as a real distro like Void Linux, but wouldn't necessarily recommend using.

Just use regular Ubuntu, or Manjaro which is just Arch with a graphical installer.

I installed Debian Sid with KDE

Anyone new isn't going to be bothered by that, and anyone experienced should know how to install a different DE.

>You will NEVER get a Linux system that can be used without the terminal.
What is android?

>Add a separate partition for your /home (the user folder)
You're gonna have to explain what the user folder is for me. Is that where you keep all your files (pictures, media, documents, etc). Or is it where you keep all your programs as well, so you don't have to reinstall them when you change the Linux version?

Hm. Something like not being able to Run Sims is more annoying to me than not being able to play more console centric games. How well does it run old DOS games like King's Quest? KoTor? Crysis and other taxing games for the time?

>Couldn't even figure out how to change the sensitivity, since that "constant mouse deceleration" option didn't even fucking exist for me. I'll stay with the retard-proofed software.

Mouse sensitivity is based on mouse acceleration, but you should just entirely turn that off and use hardware DPI as mouse sens.

Can't turn off mouse acceleration in the graphical settings.

Create a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Inb4 too retarded to create a file and paste text into it.

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Disabling_mouse_acceleration

A system that you have far less control over than even a Mac.

>How well does it run old DOS games like King's Quest?

Need DosBox emulation, same as Windows.

> Crysis and other taxing games for the time?

Crysis runs.

DX9 games are best played on AMD GPUs with open source drivers though.

Because there is literally native Direct3D9 drivers on Linux in mesa, that can be used with this

github.com/iXit/wine-nine-standalone

Switched like 5 years ago. Tried using Windows again and I don't know how people can use it or complain that Linux is too hard when you can update everything yourself using a single command compared to having to manually install every driver yourself.

>Change mouse settings in windows
>Go to the mouse section in control panel and change it
>Change mouse settings in Linux
>Paste this code into a text file

Linux why are you like this? People who program this penguin shit know this is why no non-programmer user wants to use it, right?

Four months ago, I fell for the Linux meme. I followed all the advice, tried giving it a fair chance, even installed six different distros.

Never again. I can't believe none of them come with Candy Crush Saga preinstalled.

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>update everything yourself using a single command
Oh, please. Windows updates itself automatically, without having to push a button. It even shuts down your computer for you if you don't reboot in time.

>b-but muh applications
Windows Store apps update automatically, too. If you need something that's not in the store, that's not Microsoft's fault.

There is actually graphical mouse sensitivity sliders in major DEs like Gnome and KDE.

What there isn't is an option to disable mouse acceleration.

Which you should, because it's absolute shit.

Can Ubuntu install nicely next to Windows on the same SSD? I managed to shrink my system partition and get 60gb of unallocated space. Any reliable tutorials for that?

>it's good because i have to do everything manually

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no, linux is for enterprise. ebay copies of windows are for personal/gaming

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just did it today
youtube.com/watch?v=MSVV_EoApdo

In fairness, this is a bit more complex than the sliders you drag in Windows.

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>nicely next to Windows on the same SSD
There's one quirk that you need to do, because your windows install is most likely using RAID.
support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid-ide-to-ahci

But the emulation software works well? I was hoping to be able to play them all again, including that one Blade Runner-esque game involving super drugs. That's great abouth DX9, though. Is there solid driver support for AMD in general on Linux? I know that some older games could be hell, even on XP to run decently without some driver fuckery.

>Wah wah I'm too stupid to understand stop giving me options
Typical wintoddler.

it's not good because you have to, but because you can

>Using it as wide solution within a business/networking/corporate environment
Yep, no problem. Good choice.
>Using it as a personal home operating system
The fuck is wrong with you? You're a contrarian faggot looking for cool points.

/home is like the C:\Users directory on Windows. Users' documents and whatever programs they install for themselves only are kept in a directory under /home/, say /home/user. /home is mounted at the top of the filesystem (/), along with other folders, most of which hold system files ranging from critical OS stuff to more mundane stuff like Steam.

Because of the way Linux is designed, you can keep /home on a different drive or partition than the rest of the system, so when you wipe the other partitions to transition to a new Linux distro, your personal files are preserved. It's like keeping your Users folder on a hard drive and Program Files on an SSD, except it's officially supported and even semi-expected if you intend to hop around different versions

seriously, give me some good reasons why it isn't suitable for home

The open-source AMD drivers run better than their closed-source counterparts.

whatever happened to that pcie passthrough shit /g/ was shilling a while back

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>Is there solid driver support for AMD in general on Linux?
The open source AMD driver is literally better than AMD's driver on Windows.

The open source drivers for AMD (partly inside the Linux kernel, partly in user space in a package calles mesa3d), have gotten very good.

Most consider the open source AMD drivers to be the best GPU drivers on Linux right now.

See:

Still exists? I'm working on it at the moment.

Jackeen pls.

You simply look autistic using it. Home computers are for gaming and Facebook, neither of which Linux does better than Windows.

See:

I use xubuntu too, it's pretty nice, very user friendly, never got any real bug/glitch either.

it is suitable for home. that doesn't mean it's good.

>You simply look autistic using it
Is this supposed to dissuade me? Is this what Microsoft shills are reduced to?

Gonna give it a shot over the summer when I do my yearly wipe.

you stooped to his level with the shill bullshit. unlucky

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>Use ACS patch

"No."

I have a lot of experience building my own kernels and it didn't work on my hardware, caused instability, and if it does work on your hardware, I bet it's shit and even potentially dangerous.

There's a reason they don't allow that in the kernel.

Nadella's been downscaling our department. Not much need for it now that Windows is becoming a service.

I gotcha. So I guess that would preserve some user preferences too? Since that sometimes gets saved to the Users directory in Windows, but I'm not sure if that's how it works with Linux.

>ask about the upsides of linux
>it lets you do all this customization that you would never give a shit about
>you can run all this free but ultimately shit software
>it's so much easier than windows even though it breaks all the time and doing simple things is much more convoluted (cue blaming lack of linux supported drivers)
linux is gay, simple features not supported out of the box and installing stuff is only marginally simpler than in windows at best and a million times as bad at worst.

Pretty much all of them, unless you edited a system-level config (those are kept in /etc, mostly) for whatever reason.

Works for me tm

All programs store their per-user configuration in your home folder (because they literally don't have permissions to create files outside of it)

Supposed to be in ~/.config

But some older programs just make a dotfile in your home directory

So yes, backing up your home folder would retain every user-specific config.

System wide config files are in /etc and require root permissions to edit.

>Yea Forums starts talking about OSes
cringe

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I don't know how I could ever go back to Windows except strictly within a gaming rig. Is not being able to work Linux (even something basic like Xubuntu) an unironic brainlet thing?

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what change? i've been on manjaro for years now, i'm not going back to windows. not like it's worth a fuck anyway at this point

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>you can run all this free but ultimately shit software
This. Call me when open sores garbage can be used to make Pixar-quality animated movies.

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Blender?

>tfw all I play is ror2 so I can stick to my 19.04 Ubuntu partition 24/7
Proton is pretty cool!

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>liberal ""arts""
call me when wangblows garbage can be used to develop microkernels

>create a file and paste text into it.
literally why nobody wants to use linux
just find the magic words on the internet instead of using an intuitive interface lmao

No, I'm staying in Windows. Thanks anyways.

You mean like...Blender and Krita?

>Are you getting ready for the change?
I'm already done mate

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Blender literally can. It's just down to the skill of the artists involved.

fucking dumbass

gamingonlinux.com/articles/pixar-film-production-show-off-how-they-use-linux-and-opengl-open-sourced-a-major-tool.7993

Ironic because I think Pixar uses Maya on Linux workstations, and the run Pixar RenderMan on Linux.

Most stuff isn't like manual Xorg configuration though which is pretty bad.

Most config files are very simple to read.

Just because Pixar uses Linux, doesn't mean it's good. They might not be able to afford Windows licenses.

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>look at me, i pretend i'm retarded

eat more shit you pajeet winnigger

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How easy is it to pirate games on Leenoox? I've used Kubuntu and Zorin in times of XXXtreme retardation and they were frankly capable OSs, but I'm too retarded/scared to do simple stuff such as enabling non-free drivers, and the GUI > terminal, even if you try to spin it as pleb shit for dumb fucks. Terminal is too boomy

Piracy on Linux in general is easy, but finding pirate copies of Linux versions of games can be hard unless you've got a good private tracker.

>How easy is it to pirate games on Leenoox?
Same process as Windows. You just run the game in Wine afterwards.

Apparently, some scene groups use DRM to protect their cracks, which can cause issues. You frankly shouldn't be using their cracks anyway.

>How easy is it to pirate games on Leenoox?
Literally exactly the same as Windows, you download something in a web browser or a torrent client.

Mounting an ISO can be done graphically in a file manager, Windows didn't get this feature until Windows 10.

Actually running programs in Wine is a bit different.

You should ideally create separate WINEPREFIX's for each program you run, unless it's completely portable and doesn't require any workaround

But setting and environment variable and making sure you run Wine with that environment vairable set is likely too hard 4 u

>and the GUI > terminal
Try Manjaro, I know they make it easy to install Nvidia blob.

>pirating games

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>Yea Forums pretends to like Linux all of a sudden
When will this phase end?

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I still don't know which distro I should install. Manjaro KDE looks sweet but I heard it can break with updates. Didn't like Ubuntu when I tried it many years back but Kubuntu seems alright at first glance. Recently heard about Pop! OS and it looks alright. I just want an OS that wont shit itself a while. Got my Laptop around 2012, it's got AMD stuff, if anyone cares.

How can i avoid the huge compatibility differences when doing presentations on Libre Office and showing them on a windows PC? I hate having to boot into Windows just to use powerpoint because last time i tried converting the format to pptx everything got completely fucked. Closest i get is converting to PDF but even then it has its risks

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Google docs might be a better option.
PowerPoint is barely compatible with different versions of it.

Is running LibreOffice an option? There are portable versions that you can put on a USB stick.

Linux shills have been in full force these past few weeks. What gives?

Ironic considering he talked shit on Linux users all the time

>moving on to better things because the current shit is fucked
>a phase
Sure, we'll grow out of it at the same time we grow out of EA ruining shit with microtransactions and shitty business practices.

Windows 7 support is ending soon and lots of people are left at a crossroads for the future. Sure Windows 7 is going to keep working for a while longer after support ends, but soon it'll start dropping off the compatibility lists for games and software as nobody is going to want to update their shit for it.

Do they stay on 7 as long as possible until updates force their programs to stop working? Do they make the jump to Windows 10 now to try to get used to it? Or do they jump to Linux instead and finally leave Windows for good?

I've never understood the complaints that Linux is too complex. My completely tech illiterate dad uses it because he was sick of windows fucking up all the time and I have had a significant lower amount of phone calls about computer problems since he switched.

>I just want an OS that wont shit itself a while.
You want an LTS version. Kubuntu has one, as does Pop!_OS. I recommend Kubuntu because I like KDE, but you should have a stable experience with either.

tehnology that allows you to play games on Linux has accumulated to the point that puts Linux among the viable gaming operating systems.

Whole open source thing is that more people you have in community, better open source shit you will get.

More windowsfags switch to Linux, more dev attention will go to Linux, better tech and better games come TO US ALL

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One of the Ubuntu flavours. Mate, Xubuntu and Kubuntu are pretty cool IMO.

>More windowsfags switch to Linux, more dev attention will go to Linux, better tech and better games come TO US ALL

If I was autistic as you I would go through the archives to screencap the amount of times I've seen you use that phrase in these threads. I'm like 75% sure you've been spamming Linux threads here for weeks to try and convert people. It's an OS, faggot. Calm your tits

no, not really but there are a lot of trannies in Yea Forums.

I have been shilling Linux for years, not weeks. And I do it for free.

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