Hollow Knight

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guided quests are the biggest potential red flag for me. one of the strengths of the original HK was its open-endedness.

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they claim each quest will have a twist but who knows what that means

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they can't, since they have passion and talent for making vidya

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you don't think there's any potential for this faster paced gameplay and more active participation in the story by the protagonist could turn of fans of the first game

well yes, soulsfags are retarded and can't adapt to change, but I don't think they will screw it up

>enemies never get staggered
>heals are instant but cost all your silk/soul
>abilities have different silk costs so you now have to think more deeply about which ability to use beyond positioning
>some moves seem to require you to build momentum in order to access them

This. There might be some mechanics or changes that are initially strange at first but the game will be solid no matter what

By not having Larkin make the soundtrack. But he will, so the game is already a 10/10.
The real question is if they will bother to connect the two stories or go the easy way and make the two games so detached from eachother we won't even be able to tell if it's a prequel ir sequel.

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oh my goodness

all ass or all puffy shorts

As for your question I don't see any benefit for them in conforming any one Hollow Knight ending but it all depends on whether Hornet stays or goes back at the end of the game which will probably be locked behind some tought platforming and/or battles

>So how can they screw this up
Epic store exclusive

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wouldn't that translate to more Switch sales

Release in 2020 right?

team cherry wouldn't dare to do that

would they?

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It's already announced for Steam. And I doubt they'll backtrack on that since Team Cherry aren't a bunch of jews. Otherwise they would have been charging far more for the original game, even from the start.

sounds pretty likely. Depends on what they show us next. If it's a trailer, unfinished looking gameplay, movement animations or whatever

>It's already announced for Steam
so were Metro, Outer Worlds, Control and so on

>And I doubt they'll backtrack on that since Team Cherry aren't a bunch of jews

The difference is those are games made by greedy AAA companies run by jews. Team Cherry is based and indiepilled.

>So how can they screw this up
Not possible.
The only thing I personally would like to avoid is it being a 70 hour long campaign or something

I know people are looking for a lot of value for money these days, but Hollow Knight was on that edge of being a bit too long.
At the end I was kind of rushing it just wanting to have it done, resulting in less enjoyment overall
Replaying it again it was a lot better, but still felt quite long

i dunno man $2 million is a LOT of money to get for basically free if epic is willing to shill out that much money for a temporary exclusivity deal, which they might for a popular title like HK. i like TC and they've been great about their pricing and DLC releases, but when over a million dollars just shows up on your doorstep with almost no effort on your part, it can be very tempting.

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Should I pull the trigger?

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Well sure, on the short term the idea of refusing Epic is retarded. You get a nice boost of money and that's it. What do you lose? A bunch of old or potential customers for releasing your game on a Chinese botnet and for backtracking on your statements, potentially lowering your sales, all stuff that hurts you on the longer term.

There's a reason I mentioned HK releasing for $15 when it's a fucking 40-hour game, that ignoring all the 4 free DLCs released afterwards: it's because they knew they were a studio that needed to penetrate the market. HK would never have reached the relatively high success it has if it had released for higher than that. People were willing to give a game from a no-name studio a chance because it was so cheap. Now they do have a name to them, but still they need to make sure they don't lose their potential sales by releasing it on a client many people oppose because of its practices. And I think TC know that well.

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Sure

>So how can they screw this up
Quest system with markers that treats players like retarded children.
Breaking the simplistic elegance of HK's combat system in favor of flashy special moves.
90% female cast with token males being gays and comic reliefs.
Implementing retarded backer OC donut steels with entire locations dedicated to them.

rent free

>90% female cast with token males being gays and comic reliefs
user, they're fucking bugs.

t. braindead nigger who can't play a game without following markers the entire time

rent free

>Quest system with markers that treats players like retarded children.
Well there's a quest system but markers were present in the first game. Like the Dreamers, the Dream Warriors and the Black Egg Temple
>Breaking the simplistic elegance of HK's combat system in favor of flashy special moves.
The Knight's moves were pretty flashy and bold. Hornet seems much the same except it looks like she can chain moves together better
>90% female cast with token males being gays and comic reliefs.
Well it's already majority female who can say about the rest till we play it
>Implementing retarded backer OC donut steels with entire locations dedicated to them.
Weren't there at least 2 areas dedicated to OCs and backer content in Hollow Knight and most of the Dream warriors were OCs as well

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The map is actually making this version somewhat pay 2 win.

It isn't 100% accurate, it just has most of the big areas, not all the little rooms

Howso? You can literally get the map on a wiki if you wanted to, and using a map in an exploration game in the first place is just killing the game for yourself.

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World's best dad

If he was a better dad and politician he'd have let Herrah spend more time with Hornet and then postioned her as Queen of Deepnest and tried to re-establish the Tramways and other links with Hollownest

As a great politician he realized spiders are inferior and less evolved species that are incapable of civilization and cooperation. There was no point bothering with them again, the failed tram attempt revealed their nature.

A good starting point would be adding rngfest bosses like fallen champion and lost kin, tho they've been getting better at designing bosses as they went along so I'm going to assume they learned their lessons.

as a good politician and dad, he let Herrah spent some time, though short, with her daughter, even though the threat of the Radiance was already at the fucking door.

I think he's just weak. Couldn't work out an agreement with Deepnest, The Hive or the Mantises

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By letting their sjw side get in the way of a good story and lore. That's what happened with LIS 2, it had everything to be a hit, but Dontnod got carried away thanks to the loud core of the LIS fanbase and forgot that what made LIS 1 a success above anything was the great story and characters. I don't think they can fuck up the gameplay though, i mean, Hollow Knight is simplistic as hell gameplay wise, it was more about the world, lore, story and characters i think.

I'm excited to play as a protagonist that can actually interact with people this time around.

I hope that Silksong's a real sequel instead of a prequel, in hopes that Hornet has the potential to change or grow as a character after all that's happened.

I've no idea what you're talking about

>By letting their sjw side get in the way of a good story and lore.

Are they sjws?

i've got that extension installed as well haha

>Are they sjws?
Yep.

>Hornet harnessing the power of music
I wonder if it comes naturally, or if she has to pick up different tunes Ocarina of Time style.

I hope this ends with a guitar solo at the precipice of the world.

> tfw Hornet is too much of a spidernigger to talk to people and just chimps out on most NPCs and attacks them

?
Never noticed it in game. Posting some woke shit on twitter or something?

chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sjw-to-skeleton/kckodmjikeoncekpplppkkcjolofmacc

granted that was back when v still chuckled about spooky scary skeletons, which was (checks notes) ...2013? fuuuccckkkk

well she beats the shit out of what becomes her quick travel method and the meeting with the cartographer in the trailer looks like it could easily turn violent

I could see her not being one for banter, but I think it'd be lame if she never went out of her way to talk to people at all. I doubt every boss will have a big dialogue-heavy intro, but I'd still like to see her talk to apparent recurring characters like Lace.

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That would be fun if it wasn't so sad. Trully deserving of the snowflakes title.

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haha yeah Yea Forums would never do wordfilters haha haha ahaha

well she doesn't crack a single joke in Hollow Knight and seems to be serious business all the time. Her playing an instrument is already indicative of her lightening up. Perhaps she'll laugh outside of the heat of battle

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What was the point of the Five Knights? Was never really stated that Hollownest had any serious rivals, external threats or serious crime like problem in the city like money forging or drug smuggling.

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She's been guarding ghosts and ruins for ages. It'd be nice to see her become actual bros with someone now that she saw her duty through to the end.

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It's one thing to take the piss off someone with worldfilters that everyone can see, and another to wall yourself from any mention of a word that makes your feefies hurt, you absolute mong.

Heretics, filthy lifeblood users, Mantis lords overstepping their bounds, etc.

I guess that there's any number of reasons for a king to have knights to keep order.

Not really, a standing army garrison is more than enough to keep order.

>never really stated that Hollownest had any serious rivals, external threats or serious crime
Deepnest niggers.
Blackwyrm.
Flukes in the sewers.
Lol Master and his cult abducting and murdering bugs by hundreds.
Hiding cannibals in the pleasure house.
Mosskin deviants.

propaganda

Why did King Arthur have loyal knights in his counsel? Every ruler needs people they can trust and confide in.

Hunters journal makes references to specific battles they thought it like battle of the black worm. I think they helped conquer the land and form the kingdom

Well, you need to reward your best men, don't you think?

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I wish the mace being alive came up in the rematch

All of them seem extremely weird except the Pure Vessel and the ones we know very little about such as the one protecting the White Lady, the plant and the guy who got his armour stolen by a maggot

Post the order in which you visited each area.
>Dirtmouth
>Greenpath
>Fungal Wastes
>Howling Cliffs
>Fog Canyon
>City of Tears
>Royal Waterways
>Crystal Peak
>Resting Grounds
>Deepnest
>Kingdom's Edge + Colloseum
>Queen's Gardens
>The Hive
For me, it was dirt-green-fog-fungal-deepnest-cliffs-city-waterways-basin-edge-peak-grounds-hive-colloseum-gardens

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all I remember is I went to Deepnest when I had 2/3rds of every upgrade I could possibly get

Absolutely

Shit i forgot
>The Abyss
I got to the Abyss inbetween the colloseum and the gardens

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>Make the feeling of climbing to the summit not as terrifying or mysterious as climbing down to the abyss
>With active towns all through the world, means more dialog, but not enough meaningful dialog
>Quest board making it too grindy to get certain upgrades or replacing exploring too much
>Tools not having good balance or enough synergy
>Hornet's greater mobility making platforming challenge awkward

That's about all I can think of.

By making it a prequel instead of a sequel, especially after the Godmaster ending.

I don't even remember the first time, now that I'm trying steel soul I'm just going as the devs intended for the most part, I always leave deepnest for last

they dropped hints that there's probably a lot more sequence breaking in Silksong than in Hollow Knight but who knows how much of that they'll fix before the game releases

Not having a single place you return to like Dirtmouth which concentrates important vendors will reduce repeat encounters and thus full development of the inhabitants

God I really hope the Pure Vessel makes an appearance or at least is mentioned

nah I'd prefer the complete absence of vessels I don't even want to have Void magic or beings in the game

>a lot more sequence breaking
Boy I sure do love randomly wandering off the map and ruining my save file without knowing, then going online to see if it happened and inevitably eating a ton of spoilers.

Fucking this. I already fell for this shit with Darksiders 2, I am NOT falling for it again.

how is your save file ruined if you skip a boss or a zone by abusing physics or certain gear/skill combinations

Depending on the map design, you might not be able to return. If you didn't realize it happened, you can easily save at a bench and effectively lock yourself in a part of the map you can't get out of without an upgrade you don't have yet. I've played enough old games where this shit happens and would much rather not do it again.

well I can't speak for SilkSong but in Hollow Knight the map only gets more connected as you play so whilst you might not enter a zone via the front door you'll eventually gain access to it via the back door

But this never happens in HK? Worst case scenario, Deepnest is a pain without the lantern but still fairly doable.

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Don't mind him, he's just pulling it out of his ass to be contrarian

Is it wrong to be Horny for Hornet?

>All of them seem extremely weird except the Pure Vessel and the ones we know very little about
So, just Ogrim?

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You should never be ashamed about what you are horny for with a few exceptions

the Delicate Flower thing seems pretty weird to me. I suspect we'd find the other weird if we learnt more about them

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Wanting to fuck bugs is normal in the HK fandom user
FE i want to fuck Cloth

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>start at dirtmouth
>crossroads
>dead end at entrance to crystal peaks
>greenpath for dash
>fog canyon
>fungal wastes for wall grab
>back to crystal peak
>fall into hole to resting grounds
>city of tears
>waterways for isma's tear
>explore more fog canyon
>ancient bason for double jump
>complete fog canyon
>deepnest
>kingdom's edge
>abyss
>hive
>howling cliffs
>queens garden

>Start
>Crossroads
>Greenpath
>Fungal
>City of Tears (cause I heard you could upgrade your Nail, did, then stag stationed back to Fungal)
>Deepnest
>Howling Basin
>Kingdom's edge for like 5 seconds
>Royal Waterways
>I forget when I got ported to Resting Grounds, but tyhat's around when I farmed up for the lantern and went to Crystal Caverns
And from there is all blurs together with Howling Cliffs, Queen's Gardens, Hive, etc.

I don't remember what i did first but i know what i did last, the mantis lord, i never found them in my first playthrough, i made the trial of the fools and beat AR before them, i only knew about their existance through the memes in this place, had to google how to find them, i don't know how the hell i missed that

>beat AR before them
Fact check your lies better next time.

Mantis lords are actually optional

>implying Herrah and the Deepnest's folk actually cared about Hornet and that her birth wasn't just a failed plan in taking advantage of the king's power to later on usurp his position

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the Weavers and Midwife seemed to care about her. Nobody else has given an opinion

He did have an agreement with the Mantises, and we are not fully sure about the Hive's stance.

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They aren't optional for AR. Unless you are a retard who thinks AR refers to Radiance in the base game.

don't let Deepnest overrun Hallownest is not exactly a proper relationship

In exchange of not taking their territory into the kingdom.

Hornet will surely mellow out in this new story.

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And neither of them seem like viable sources.
I know it sounds far fetched, but it's something primordial to take into account once Silksong releases.

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oh no, she's cuter

reasonable but from what I've seen most multi eyed bugs tend to wear masks with multiple eyes

by making all exploration rewarded with crafting materials instead of a unique item

I like the hints of Pale King's crown/horns the artist gave her

Doesn't make much semse considering Hornet is literally supposed to be only an example of what a natural offspring of the Pale King would be like.

Why do people like OP are always expecting the worst out of everything, it's like they want to be angry and salty. Even when it is something as good as hollow knight he is trying to make people discuss negative shit for no reason at all

she looks like a cross between Herrah and the Pale King. Seeing as the Vessels got pumped full of void we don't get to see what they'd be like but I assume they'd look part Root. Also you have to keep in mind that Hornet is only half Higher Being while the Vessels are 2 higher beings and the influence of Void

I prefer being pleasantly surprised

It's better to have lesser expectations, so in the end the out come will always be better.

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Because Hornet is just a teenage vessel that can actually talk. Her true connections to Herrah are the shape of her head and the ability to generate silk.

>the ability to generate silk
user no, that's lewd as fuck.

Hope I'm not the only one who noticed that there's another one awaiting for her in Lace's first stage.

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Lace probably believes what she's doing is for the good of Pharloom just like Hornet did in Hallownest. The only difference is Lace is 100% wrong

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Reminds me more of an elevator

>The only difference is Lace is 100% wrong
Hornet was also 100% wrong.

but there's no cables to lift it or lower it

There's a little ring at the top to put said cable/silk

Hornet wasnt wrong, we were just too strong.

>the Hollow Knight is leaking orange soda form his torn butthole
>let's hunt and attempt to kill all vessels who can potentially replace him
Hornet is an absolute retard, there's no excuse.

Yeah, but this time Lace will be directly on the main antagonists' side, regardless if she really believes she's doing the right thing or not.

They're Australians, not Jews. They're not going to make it a games-as-service matchmaking tool with a 30fps lock and bans for things you say on twitter.

Still no cable to be seen.

>let the orange soda leak slowly through the gaps
>let a weak vessel get broken in 3 days and soda comes gushing out the door
Choose

The giant robot boss will come in to put it

>a slow but completely inevitable failure with world ending results
>a chance of success, no matter how small, the worst case scenario is no worse than option 1
Do you think this is a hard choice or what?

I wonder what kind of leakage we can expect in Silksong because there's bound to be a shit is getting real transformation like the infected Crossroads or someone we get to know acting odd

I'm more up to believe that she was only making up excuses so her mother and sibling didn't have to die for nothing in case the replacement plan went wrong.

The key word is weak vessel, if they ca't survive her then they have no chance against the infection (in her mind, being hollow and being good at combat aren't really related)

>in her mind, being hollow and being good at combat aren't really related
Or, in other words, she is retarded, because she bases her actions on a completely nonsensical correlation.

death-loodle.tumblr.com/post/183457685247/follow-the-light-the-radiance-and-silksong

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>personally testing the vessels to find the strongest one to replace
>Let a random one goes through and doesnt know if it fails or not.
Keyword here is 1 try. She only has 1 try to get this job done.

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See A vessel's combat ability against Hornet reveals nothing about its capability to contain infection.

She's not retarded, only that she hasn't gone through the whole process of growing up yet.
Just give it time, and hope she makes the right choice in the end.

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Is this an alternate version of this image, or did someone get butt blasted enough to bleach it?

>literally signed "MAGA onion"

I dunno. Saw it on a couple of threads times before and finally downloaded it.

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I think the one you're thinking about is the one with Lace

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Hornet was black in the original I've seen the original and had it saved as well but deleted it due to her negative ass

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Despite being 13%

...primal aspids are responsible for 80% of projectile hits

Having fetch quests with this quest system wouldnt be interesting imo.

so long as they aren't as annoying as the Grimmchild shit I don't mind

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why is he getting Pure Vessel attacks from the Infected Knight

Swapped roles.

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So Weavers are pretty big deal now?
I can't say I'm surprised.

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Playing HK for the first time, what's the best place to farm Geo for the lantern? Missing a few spots on the map, but already know most of it.

Try not to farm for stuff. You will have enough money naturaly pretty soon. Just try a different direction.

I am the fool

I feel like I’m missing something VS AR. Besides the fact I need to remember how to handle her last phase, it feels as if the earlier phases are all just luck in whether or not you get screwed with your positioning.

having trouble with any particular attack?

When I started to get frustrated the beam and javelin circle started messing with me, but what often gets me is the vertical or horizontal javelins in the 2nd phase when half the screen is off limits. Homing is annoying during that as well. Then the platform phase can suck just depending on where things shoot from. It can be hard to dodge the lasers for instance if you’re in the wrong spot.

by not having a single Metroid reference in their game.
also not making any wholesome, adorable bug characters

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don't forget that they also sell a DRM-free version of Hollow Knight on their own website as well, and they promised the same with Silksong

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god I love the shitpost king

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The quintessential boomer

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The highest degree of royalty

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I wonder what Laces reasonings will be for wearing a complete set of clothes, complete with gloves and booties. She's the only bug not naked or wearing rags and a cloak.

I hope they tone down the RPG elements and make it more metroid than vania.

>RPG elements
I mean besides the sword upgrade I dunno what you mean by that.
I wouldn't mind more callbacks to metroid though since none of those god damn drawfags have jumped on the opportunity to do such

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Then play the first game fag. More Vania elements is welcoming. Especially if there's chance to lower prices and not buy shit at face value because of greedy fuckhead merchant.

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What RPG elements? Because I sure as shit didnt see it in HK...

>spidernigger
I wonder who could be behind this post?

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Nah, they seem like ok lads.

>rpg elements
what the fuck are you talking about

Fagets

get out of here you moth

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Not him but I like moth. All she needs is some love.

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Get rid of charms and objects that have no explanation other than being loot you need to hold on to that might turn out to how significance and oh no you sold it for easy cash whoops you won't get the full monty now.

Make it more like Super Metroid instead of Castlevania, which is the bad part of metroidvanias.

Moffs are frens.

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People like HK bcause it's not a metroidvania. It's actually 2d open world game in the guise of a metroidvania.

Prove me wrong.

How the hell do you call that RPG stuff? There's no leveling, character customisation or even experience points. wtf are you talking about?

>it's not a metroudvania
Are you dumb? Do you have brain damage?

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Remove Moth

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faggot

Nah it's a metroid like game. You need some abilities to access new areas. That's the essence of a metroid like game. It's just that the game is big (sometimes too big for its own good but YMMV).

This would be fucking cool. Role reversal where Ghost is picked and Pure Vessel was at the ledge too late. Ahame they're done with Hollow Knight.

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Nah, remove asshole infanticide self proclaimed king instead.

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I like how all the areas are connected

If only.

The trailer looks like an improvement to HK in every single way. The only real problem is the formalized quest system.

But that being said, they probably won't use actual quest markers and if tou thibk about it they're just replacing the long term collectathon quests in the original game like the grubs, essence hunting, relics, etc.

Drink your fanta, kids.
youtube.com/watch?v=yT9HJ7G-lNo

t. moth
don't believe their lies, Pale King did nothing wrong

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But HK is a metroidlike?

they cant, team cherry never loses

Having your kids die like this is all kinds of wrong.
>inb4 no cost too great
His dumb ass shouldn't have caused this problem in the first place.

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>objects that have no explanation other than being loot you need to hold on to that might turn out to how significance and oh no you sold it for easy cash whoops you won't get the full monty now
???????????

It's okay, it's just shells

They make silksong so good that everyone forgets the original game.

id honestly be okay with that

Those shells were once children, who probably fell to their deaths climbing or got eaten by the crawlies.

they're voidlings they're not real people

t. Paleking

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this is the ideal bug body

t. Radiance

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I was initially scared by the amount of ranged weapons you now have which might make people cheese every boss but then I remembered that they could just make the bosses even more hyperaggressive to force players to use Hornet's moveset.

The handle of the nail looks like it's censoring her puss.

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how did he lose his arm Yea Forums?

RIP

The game looks quite polished already. Could be a 2019 release desu.

Hornet needs clothes!

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Only if your frustration gets bigger.

>Implementing retarded backer OC donut steels with entire locations dedicated to them.
Fuck off user Cloth is was my nigga

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Is he the best father?

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Is this the one that gives you a dish cloth? That's a pretty weird item because why would you make a nice Hollow Knight cloth only to have it soiled on filthy dishes and then turned into a cloth Petri dish in like two weeks?

>"Hegaaalei!"
>horny hornet will never wrap you up in shabari with silk
>she will never prod your opening with the circular hilt of her needle
It feels bad, sis.

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See
Killing your kids before they're even born doesn't make you a great father.

>saw button
11/10

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Cloth is fat, and wearing a sack over her potential hidious face.

Moth should have not been a cunt

Palefag started it first. Moth literally. Unironically didn't do ANYTHING wrong until Palecunt shows up and makes her own people FORGET about her.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK user

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They already screwed it up.

These threads are going to filled with so much fucking degenerate bug porn. And even worse Hornet and Lace yurishit.

Nope. Cloth is the size of a small house and weighs just as much.

Free will is an insect right

That shit happens with every series. There's always that weird part of the fanbase. What can the devs do really if some fans fantasize on shit?

Moth could have been okay with that if Palecunt didn't erase her from existance and make her own people forget about her.

>hating bugporn
What a fucking faggot lmao. Probably a furfag too.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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By not pandering to them?

Look at the fucking showcased characters for fuck's sake.
>Lace has a HUGE butt
>Ant Queen has thick thighs for the mommyfags
>Sherma is pure /ss/ bait
Makes me fucking sick.

Why do you like fat and ugly chicks so much user? Cloth is the bug equivalent of that nasty troll hamplanet in the IGN dating show.

I think this is a problem with you more than the fans or the devs
bugporn is going to happen
whether or not you look at it is your choice

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Why are you being such a faggot user? These are all positives. Much better than gross fujoshit between ghost and grimmchild.

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When did the official character design of Lace emphasize that aspect of that character's body? It's just some people overexagerrating it (sometimes fot fun)...It has nothing to do with the devs at all.

bit butts and thick thighs are common features among bugs

She's NOT fat, she's just BULKING. It ain't easy lugging around that massive club. As for the mask, I don't know what she's hiding but I'm sure her face is PERFECTLY FINE

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I'm not very far into the game at all, I'm at the point where you have to kill the 3 dreamers to unlock the black egg. I'm in deepnest and there are these weird things with big shields in front of their face, and when you get close they take off the side of the shields to attack you and that's the only time they're vulnerable. I have no idea how to take them out efficiently. I tried attacking and then dashing back out but there's no real way to do that without getting hit(at least without the long nail charm which I don't have enough money or charm notches for yet). When I go behind them they just turn around. The only way I managed to kill one was to spam the shooting spell and then facetank until it died once I was out of magic.

Post Broken Vessel and/or friends

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>I tried attacking and then dashing back
That's it, just do it better

>this guy started drawing fanart
Oooooohhhhhh yyyyeeeeeeessssss

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Rip you beautiful lesbian bug. Cloth x Hornet doujins never.

I got you covered. Praise the Pale King

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Hey Yea Forums.

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You got to wait until they decide to attack you, then attack and dash away. If you had picked up great slash, you would have been able to use that instead of waiting, but oh well.

based

What did Team Cherry mean by this?

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God I wish that were me

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Special hornet upskirt figurine for sale when.

Maybe it's gonna be to the original like rondo of blood is to symphony of the night

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Imagine what the insectoid pussy of a literal living talking sex machine who's only feminine purpose is to aquire your semen looks and smells like.

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Hollow Knight shitposting is golden.

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Look, sometimes you gotta kill a few thousand (modest estimate) of your kids to get the job done
It happens

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God, I hope we can shitpost once Silksong is released

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But his arms are longer than your nail and you can only damage him when his arms are out. Would be more tolerable if the dash had i-frames (I have died multiple times because my instincts tell me to dash through an attack instead of away)

>usurping the position of an immortal demigod
>in the middle of a fucking apocalypse
>that you are agreeing to effectively die to end
Also Deepnest wanted jack shit to do with Hallownest. They explicitly refused to be under the rule of the Pale King and that's despite Herrah's first husband being a Hallownest noble.

its the best shit man

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1. You can't sell key items, so there's no way you won't get the "full monty" by selling something.
2. There is nothing wrong with charms. They reward exploration and give options for augmenting your play style.

Gem of a game, honestly

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>Hallownest
Aesthetic kingdom name.
>Pharloom
OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING

I want the Pale King back.

It's just how it is user, keep playing and you'll get used to the movement, your range etc
and you can even go somewhere else to get stronger and go to deepnest later with better stuff

but it’s far and looming. Maybe

>tfw blessed

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>looming

Different kind of loom mate.

THESE FUCKING ENEMIES

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I've already been to the city of tears if that's what you meant. Left to store my money before I could get to the boss though

hnnng

>yfw they all could have just fucking moved after the King freed everyone from Radiance, put up warning signs, and left the moth tribe to their shit, and everything would have been fine
Why was the Pale King so fucking incompetent? It's not like they didn't have decades if not centuries to get the fuck out.

That fucking flower

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>Mantis lords overstepping their bounds
The mantids were vassals to Hallownest like the fucking fungus. I think the followers of Unn and Deepnest were the only independent groups, right?

>literally a single hard jump in the entire fucking sidequest
I mean admittedly it's at the fucking end, but just don't fuck up. If you're a shitter you can always clear the meaner enemies out first.

The worst part is that it's not even hard. It's made to play with your nerves.

Like the two enemies at the end of PoP.

I actually had a busted controller when playing this which made me randomly run left when doing it, and it made playing this part of the game a fucking nightmare. Unfortunately, I was too much of a headass to quit and wait for it to get fixed.

Because his ego was the size of a small planet. Nobody called Pale King out on his shit because he "gave the gift of free minds". If all his subjects knew what he did to Radiance I'm sure many people would start seeing past his lies and just how much of an asshole he really is.

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Being surrounded by asskissing yesmen all around your palace can drown out apparent dangers.

If the game has the level of quality HK has, sales will be good. You take epics cash when you are releasing a product with no good expectations and you want to try to break even, like that factorio ripoff or direct-to-flop products like outer worlds. It is not worth the massive brand damage if your product is potentially good and well known like this one.

He is talking about Life is Strange 2 going full ORANGE MAN BAD mode. It got quite cringy, and it kinda flopped.

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Those aussie cunts are just two blokes that want a lot of people to play their game. It's why HK was so absurdly underpriced and why they're even giving Silksong for free to their old kickstarter backers. Now that being said, if they could put HK on all platforms including epic then I'm sure they would do it but not exclusive bullshittery.

Utterly based devs.

>shipping the Lord of Shades and The Radience
I kinda like it, but it's pretty cut and dry that he straight up murdered her. Then again, we don't fully understand if Higher Beings truly die

I mean the artist that made this ship makes good art but good lord, this ship shit is just weird

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Perfect

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>what made LIS 1 a success above anything was the great story and characters
>great story and characters

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It was shit, but at least it did not force me to go through several levels of reddit politics.

Who is she talking to?

I think it's their egg.

Pale King is dead. However his ship proved all Radiance needed was a good dicking and a shoulder to cry on for being forgotten for god knows how many years.

Like most people the only really glaring thing they showed in the trailer were the quests. Everything else seems amazing.

youtu.be/Gv6CRPqkpuU?t=427
And honestly they seem to be really coy about explaining to so who knows.

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Holy fucking shit I've been looking for this for ages

Post the gif

I've got the full thing ever since that one user made it

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unfortunately I don't got the gif version, just all the art the drawfag made

Found it.

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Agura Hornet best Hornet.

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What are the chances that they really do add a super secret post-Godmaster boss fight against the Knight?

>not hornet asking the knight and him not replying.
this comic was so close to being perfect

I have the knight design on a t-shirt
it took THREE MONTHS TO GET HERE

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>horizontal feetsies
Delet this plis

Dirtmouth,Greenpath,Fungal Wastes,Fog Canyon (backpedal),Crystal Peak,Deepnest,Resting Grounds,Deepnest (again) ,Basin, City of Tears, Hive, Kindom Edge, Howling Cliff, Abyss

I'M TIRED OF DEALING WITH CAPTAIN INFLATION OF THE CLOWN PATROL BUT HE WON'T STOP SLAPPING MY ASSHOLE! I'm getting close tho

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Really hoping they do that, because I want to see character development between Hornet and The Hollow Knight after they teased us that fucking ending

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Abuse minions

>about to get monarch wings
>stop playing HK out of laziness
What to expect?

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Really hope they show sideplot of Hollow Knight walking around Hollownest after waking up from the sleep induced magic coma put on him and Hornet. First at the City of Tears reading the statue plaque, then to the ruins of the White Palace and finally in the abyss where Shadelord hooks him up with a new arm and void juice to go out there and protect his little sister.

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Hell I'd like to see it more as:
>Hollow Knight appears
>They get tense with each other
>After a period of hesitation both let their guard down
>Suddenly scuffles are heard outside
>The ground rumbles
>The air stills
>both are suddenly attacked and knocked out by foreigners from another kingdom
>Both are caged
>Hornet is separated from The Hollow Knight
>Eventually when she escapes from her cage she finds The Hollow Knight's cage, broken
>bodies everywhere, this void-filled failed vessel still wrecks shit even with a shitty blade and one arm
>eventually like the other side characters they meet one another by chance, helping each other out in their quest to get back home
>or perhaps rise up as the new protectors of the foreign kingdom, as a form of redemption for failing his duty as the Hollow Knight
>Either way, they may eventually find out about the truth of what happened back in Hallownest and seek the death of The Shade Lord in order to reclaim both Hallownest and protect their newfound kingdom of Pharloom

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post juicy hornet upskirts
Are upskirts better if
>they don't notice
>they notice and are embarrassed
>they notice but are fine with it

Nah I don't think they take Hollow Knight because looking at his mangled one arm body with grievous injuries they probably thought he'd die on the journey so they left him at Hollownest. Makes sense to why they only took Hornet.

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I think it'd be interesting to see some addition to Godmaster's final scene considering how much more open-ended it is than the other conclusions, but I can't help but see it as just another alternate "Bad Ending" rather than something that will play a large role in Silksong.

Especially since like 2% of players actually saw it.

I still don't know whether Hornet is our imouto or our onee-san.

Still my fav hk oc besides pic related.

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All of the above, in that order.

I mean both are descendants of a higher being, who knows.
Maybe they wanna sacrifice the shit outta demi-gods so that their own kingdom can survived
I mean shit, we apparently got magical bug mechs and magical robots, I'm sure if they wanted to someone could turn The Hollow Knight into Venom Hollow Knight in a split second
I mean I can't help but think that as well, but at the same time they did put effort into those endings, I'd feel like it'd be a waste of both story potential and, well, animation just to throw in an ending that honestly didn't matter

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This would also give nice cutscenes of Hollow Knight soul searching seeing how he failed his father, and all of Hallownest. Probably smashing that statue in City of Tears out of anger at the lie on the plaque.

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I think the best way to implement the Godmaster storyline into Silksong is via another DLC update pack. Say they introduce yet another boss rush content update into Silksong except this time it actually continues Godmaster's story.

That'd be fucking great.

That I can agree on. If they kept to the Dream no More ending but added a DLC that went off of the Godmaster ending, I'd be completely fine with that.
Maybe not so much of a boss-rush though, probably more along the lines of something that'd add a bit of content, if not more. Like the Grimm Troupe DLC

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>RETURN TO HALLOWNEST DLC

Jesus Christ you aussie madmen for the love of all that is holy do it.

A dip into alternate reality tomfoolery via the ascended Godseeker?

I wouldn't mind seeing more of the great knights during their heyday.

>new DLC
>you travel through Silksong to collect some special silk for the Weavers
>they make a bed/cradle
>Hornet lays on top of it and sleeps
>dreams of a what-if scenario as she dreams of nostalgic memories
>she's back at Hallownest in the Temple waiting for the Knight
>queue Godmaster cliffhanger
>she meets the Hollow Knight and the story goes off from there
>they travel Hallownest together finding the Lord of Shades
>Lord of Shades boss fight
>Knight boss fight
>ends with Hornet giving the Knight a delicate flower
>Hornet wakes up from her long dream
>she finds a delicate flower next to her

k i n o

>RETURN TO HALLOWNEST DLC
>Whole Kingdom is fucked up by the void
>Void monstrosities and amorphous abominations prowl through the depths
>The site where the Godmaster was is just a blasted void crater or an untouched haven filled with pale flowers
>We'd get a few more great knight fights, such as Dryya animated by the Void
>Hornet encounters the Hollow Knight as they're drawn to the abyss by a deep, menacing roar
>The deeper you go, the more the void begins to shape into vessel shades
>Final boss is The Shade Lord himself in two phases
>First phase is with The Hollow Knight as the void within them is manipulated against their will, acting more-so as a puppet
>Second phase is the Shade Lord itself, just as tense and difficult as The Radiance
>Secret Third Phase is entering the Shade Lord's mind with a Dream Nail and destroying the manifestation of its focus itself: by slaying The Vessel within
>final action is either executing the Knight, or giving him a Pale Flower

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when you imagine you're the girl and you do it on purpose but pretend not to notice

why is this board so pessimistic all the time

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managing expectations

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I don't think it's possible to screw up a Hollow Knight sequel, that's like screwing up a Shovel Knight expansion

Anything can be screwed up. Something as simple as them charging £5 more for this game could send people into a tizzy and though it's not a bi enough game the add easy mode crowd might have a word or two

>Whole Kingdom is fucked up by the void
Why in the fuck would that even happen? Before Radiance came along and mindslaved everyone the bugs in the area lived in unity with the void.

At least that nintendo presentation finally confirmed that at most we'll only have to wait until march 2020.

if it's coming out so soon I'd expect to see more news. Something like an optional boss, the start of a quest or the tutorial

Anyone besides me want a more detailed explanation of what the fuck was up with Isma? Radiance didn't turn any other fuckers into plants and her corpse literally produces magic fruit.

Was she she some sort of mobile plant from the White Lady's domain in the first place that simply was forced to take root by Radiance's influence? Is she even technically fucking dead?

Maybe Isma was a follower of Unn?

>the bugs in the area lived in unity with the void
We don't know for sure what happened to the darkness worshipping bugs in the Abyss. Their civilization might very well have fallen due to messing with the void.

I WANNA FUG THAT BUG!

When she doesn't notice but she's embarassed just because you're looking her way
Also literally all of these are improved by nopan

She wasn't okay with it in the first place. All the moth wants is blind whorshipping.

Do I also have to mention that she oppossed Grimm and banished him from his original form and realm?

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>she oppossed Grimm and banished him from his original form and realm?
Nice headcanon, fag. Go ahead and cite one random and vague line form the Seer as "proof" so I can laugh at you.

Weavers are pretty big deal that can also use soul for spells and magic. There's evidence they were the ones behind the creation of the seals, and possibly gave Herrah the idea of having a child with the Wyrm.

>Also Deepnest wanted jack shit to do with Hallownest.
It's stated that they tried an invasion at one point.

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No, the void was just there, nobody really "lived in harmony" with it. It's a foce of nature, so it's presence wasn't something that sinister, until after Godmaster when it got sentience. Now things are fucked up

thats the thing, though. I don't feel that the void lord is a sinister lord. It was born from a vessel which only has a goal to kill the Radiance, and from the void which was never active to begin with. If anything, the whole hallownest would either be flattened out, all its infected inhabitants killed and the void lord would just be sleeping in the abyss

I mean the trailer itself was already chock full of so much shit already.

Nothing is more unfounded headcanon than the idea that the radiance has even the slightest amount of reasonability or benevolence.

>Sherma is pure /ss/ bait
What's so wrong about that?

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>implying sherma isn't a geriatric

it's worse to have your hopes crushed than to have your fears come true

experience level of skill required to play starts as hard as pantheon of the hallownest.

WHEN IS THE FUCKIN HIATUS ENDING
I WANT THE MOTHERFUCKING KISS HOLY FUCKING SHIT FUMITA
MIGHT AS WELL COME TO MY HOUSE AND PERSONALLY KICK ME IN THE NUTS
AAAAAAAAAAA
Seriously, when is the hiatus ending?

keep seething prudeshitter

Was the pale king wrong?

some people says gamers are fetishing skill and that's bad

we turned it into straight up porn

he went a bit too far with the "the end justifies the means" meme

Doesn't seem to be the case.

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I hope it doesn't start there, but I hope it gets to that point, and then goes much, much further.

Why does Hornet count in japanese in the trailer? Is HK actually a weeb game?

>if the Pale King had held out for just a little longer, the Godseeker would have arrived when he was still alive, suck him off 24/7 (with the White Lady watching) and meme him into absolute godhood allowing him to crush the Radiance without resorting to void autism
Worst timeline.

aussies are honorary asians

HK literally sold more in Japan than it did in the rest of the world as a whole

He knew a little too much about void for his own good, but in the end it was all a matter of finishing the job by himself.

>you can bounce on enemies, but not pogo straight up
>juggling yourself is more horizontal and harder to do
>we will likely get a fight without a floor at some point

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deepest lore

Which new bug you want to see?

What is with you people and the jews

It probably will. I just hope they do a better job of building up to the real difficulty.

>PULL MY NEEDLE TRIGGER

>HELLO MY BABY HELLO MY HONEY HELLO MY NIGHTTIME GAL

the spider will out

Notice this device that appears in the tools menu? Might be the explanation as to why she appears with various limbs.

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jesus bug

The duality of man.

Why can’t we say S O Y

Dragonflies.
Stickbugs.
Cockroaches.
Water striders.

Whatever the fuck The Collector was

She’s using her two arms and two legs to do that

Termites

it does though? You'd have to fight an infected HK either way.

leaf bugs
alligator bugs

The Collector is one of the Kingsmould that can be found in White Palace most likely

You can get Zote killed if you skip Greenpath/go to some other place (it’s somehere specific, cant recall)

Not talking about missing him by proceeding through the story in Greenpath naturally

that's no great cost

ruined? more like blessed

>it does though?
Why did Pure Vessel fail to contain it then? It was much stronger in combat than Hornet, yet it wasn't a good enough container.
Furthermore, we know that vessels ability to contain infection is tied to its lack of mind, which has nothing to do with skills in combat.
Hornet testing the vessel via a fight is the equivalent of fistfighting your potential hire on the interview to see how good they are at writing code.

but no cost is too great

Well she like to sew.

Are you saying she should be wearing lace underwear?

Nice

hartman hips

For bugs its normal.

You wana say real bugs.

Pure Vessel failed to because he had a mind, but later vessels must also be strong enough to defeat the failed HK, or else the Radiance will be released. The second Vessel must have more requirements than the first

Remember "I wanna be the Guy"?

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youtube.com/watch?v=GdHskxJrSnw

We will never top this peak fan made kino. How the fuck do the nips do it?

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God I fucking love HK's art direction and character designs

Grimm theme > NKG theme

Don't @ me

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...

youtube.com/watch?v=UAO2urG23S4
youtube.com/watch?v=pFAknD_9U7c

It's crazy how much better Silksong looks.
How did these aussies do it?

based

>How did these aussies do it?
With the millions of dollars of profit from their game

passion, love and talent

That's still just 2+1 people.

0Z's pour sheer determination into everything they do. Like surviving each day.

Hollow Knight haters often cites the idea that Hollow Knight doesn't stand out with anything that other games of the genre doesn't do better. But even disregarding details where they may or may not be wrong with their reasoning, I'd still say that there is one definite aspect of Hollow Knight where they're very wrong when it comes to this.
And that's movement.

Movement is unironically the thing I like the most about Hollow Knight. It's kind of simplistic, but simple does by no means bad.
The way hitting things knocks not only what you hit back, but you as well, is really engaging. It's a basic concept, but sticking with it throughout the game and it has an incredible impact on the game. Bouncing, pacing, dashing, pushing. Etc, etc. It's all good, and not something you see in your Metroids or Castlevanias or what have you. Really. Hollow Knight does have splendid movement basics. To the point where it could be a splendid explicit platforming would the level designs just focus on it, and I think the path of pain kind of proves that point.

And movement above all appears to be the biggest improvement with Silksong, and that's just incredibly promising.

Cope.

Hornet's VA is a cute asian neighbour with no prior voice acting experience.

Just imagine how fortunate they were to have such a talented voice actress in their vicinity.

yeah, lol...

I'm more astonished by the fact that it was one of the dev's wife that voiced Iselda.

>dev's wife that voiced Iselda
Oh no. No.
All my faps now all of a sudden took on an entirely new dimension and I am not a dimension I was ever even aiming for.
Not quite sure what to think of this.

And she's backing voicing the female Cornifer in the sequel.

You are missing out a lot. The game is truly a great experience all the way through and it only gets better with the more mobility that you have.

You can leave deepnest without lantern and without killing mantis lords by getting the tram pass.

>How can they screw this up?
They already did, because it's souless

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they should really get their used condoms fetish in check

1 initially then 2

Can't wait for people to complain that you can only heal when the silk meter is full.

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It's honestly still so interesting how the slightest change in mechanics can alter the game so much that it merits a sequel to explore those changes.

He meant the knight not hollow knight.

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H-Holy fuck.

muh

bumpanada

Just like her true siblings.

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fuck I didn't know they ripped off somali to mori no kami sama

Is it worth fighting all the hidden bosses in Hollow Knight?
I beat the final boss a couple months ago and have been burnt out since. How do you even access the DLC content?

Yes.

See

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So what's bothering you? A lack of currency, 2indicators of your energy reserves or liking the flourish more than the sharp point

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>A lack of currency
Rosaries.

I'm talking about them being shown on the UI. As for rosaries it's possible that they're a crafting item or something for a quest hence them not being permanently affixed to the UI like Geo

Look. If a fucking dead civilization in the form of Hallownest still used geo as a currency then why the fuck would an actual alive civilization not use it?

>why the fuck would an actual alive civilization not use it?
Post-class communist utopia.

I'm not commenting on what currency they use I'm enquiring whether the currency not constantly being shown on the UI is what makes him think Silksong is soulless

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>communist utopia
Pharloom is way too religious.

>is what makes him think Silksong is soulless
That's because Silksong literally is soulless.

Mana is called soul in HK and silk in Silksong, ergo Silksong is soulless.

Its dosent change the fact that they are her kin.

ah I grok it now

who knows if that's the standard heal and even if it is whether it'll make it to the final game

Hopefully it is. They said they wanted Hornet to feel faster and what better way to do that than making the focus and near instant three health heal that you can do in midair?

the thing is something like that seems broken but as enemies get tougher it becomes annoying. Essentially healing one mask becomes less beneficial and now you end up saving for an all or nothing heal whilst also not attacking with your most powerful attacks

Exactly that's why I'm so excited.

It means they can make enemies, which we can already see a few in the trailer, and bosses more relentless. They don't stagger, they're more aggressive, the healing windows are smaller, and the game further rewards aggressiveness. Even exploration becomes more dangerous because you can only heal when the silk meter is full.

>and the game further rewards aggressiveness
It rewards never using your silk for offense because you might need a heal later.

Nah. Hornet moves fucking quick. You can fill up that silk meter near instantly judging from the trailer.

Also lmao just don't get hit. It's just like the first game where spell builds were broken.

I guess much like Grubsong in HK I'll be keeping whatever Silk gathering items permanently equipped

this. Why would I use counter/parry or gossamer storm when I'm a heart or two away from death when I can heal 3 or however many hearts and keep attacking with regular attacks

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>Grubsong
>Silk gathering items
I hope they get rid of all that crutch shit. Something like the lifeblood syringe is enough.

considering you can still Minion spam and the throwing knives seem to be limitless allowing you to chip away at enemies I think crutch shit as you call it is here to stay

The cloth is a screen cleaner that only comes with the Switch version.

The range weapons are fine as long as the enemies and bosses are sufficiently aggressive to compensate. Besides, they're also a bit fucky since it looks like they don't give Hornet silk.

I also like the humanized version of this

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And your claim either doesn't make her connection with the pale beings less strong than the one with the beast.

bomb them

What kind of game is this? Super Mario but darker?

Low-effort, low-quality bait, user.

Why did you feel the need to drag Souls games into this? It's Hollow Knight.

PHAT
BUG
BUTTE

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markers

In contrast with what most people would guess, I am going to say Lace will be definitive antagonist for a great deal of the game, so she won't end up as an ally of Hornet's unless the latter makes a series of decisions that ultimately derive into one of the many different finales Silksong may offer this time. All of this assuming she does belong to the cult that brought Hornet here in the first place.

>what is uumuu?

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It's like sekiro compared to dark souls

B-But muh yuri

we still don't know if there's going to be a motroid reference in silksong, retard

no cost too great

Hollow Knight was pretty fucking kino. But the later stages and fights were hell with the switch joycons.

I'm sorry.

Making her literally Hornet 2.0. sounds too predictable and plain, I want an interesting twist for once.

Also, Hornet-Sherma is already better.

there's plenty of other bugs for her to lez out with from Hunter Queen Ant to the Cartographer.

Sherma is Myla except maybe not tragic

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But we already have Sharpe.

And an essential part of the plot, you forgot. He's a lot more like Quirrel.

The jellyfish were Monomon's thing, so yeah, probably not in Silksong. Genre itself is a metroid reference though, buddy chum pal

I think the mere fact that the "steel" faction exists pretty much guarantees that Lace is going to join Hornet's side.

Part of my point. His gang's motives may be more intricate than what they appear to us at first.
Remember, the religious cult wants to capture Hornet, whereas these guys need her straight up dead.

Its wrong not to be horny for hornet

how do you know he's essential to the plot and not just a quest character or a vendor

thread is kill

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>post yfw Hornet either doesn't end up with any of the first two but does fuck Sharpe and has a bunch of part demigod-spider part void baby monstruosities with him

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>stronk female protagonist being straight in 2019

Of course, she could be bi.

>stronk female protagonist in an interracial relationship with the void
Wait a minute.

Maybe because he is one of the first to be revealed and to appear in the press kit along with a pair of cameos in the trailer?