Weak gunplay

>Weak gunplay
>Obnoxious writing full of weak toilet humor
>Horrible gameplay that centers on a "that level" style gimmick throughout the entire game [Shadows and Goats]

This game was a huge let down. What a piece of shit.

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I mean there's a good reason why barely anyone talks about it.

Which is a shame, because spic Donte had a cool aesthetic

Yeah, EA really fucked it into the ground. Shame too since the team was great. Really wish we could see more of the original. I'm going to muddle through it anyway since it's canon in NMHAlso, I tracked down a copy of Kurayami Magazine and will dump it in a couple weeks

>Obnoxious writing full of weak toilet humor
>Horrible gameplay that centers on a "that level" style gimmick throughout the entire game
First time with a Suda51 game, OP?

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>I'm going to muddle through it anyway since it's canon in NMH
Not worth it. At most you'll just wanna youtube the "Children's Books" you find in the game that talk about the dark histories of the boss characters. That's the biggest piece of "world building" or whatevet that would/could be relevant to NMH. The rest is just silly adventures in a version of hell that looks like rural Spain.

We've been over this several times. KiD and LC aren't sudacore and SotD was ruined by outside forces. TSC, FSR, 25th Ward, K7, NMH1 are all solid and he's not just le wacky japanese man

Why blame EA when it Grasshopper were the ones who designed and developed the game?

Because it's a known fact that EA literally fucked Suda's original idea.

Johnson was supposed to be a little girl who lived in Garcia's gun that he was in love with. There were other things too but basically EA just said "lol tl;dr" and forced them to change it into what it is now.

Unless it was going to be a different game with better pacing and tension, or a game with different mechanics, then Suda probably would have made another unsatisfying game regardless of EA messing with the story.

imo

>Unless it was going to be a different game with better pacing and tension,
Probably, yeah.
>a game with different mechanics,
Also probably yeah.

We'll never know what the original version would be like but it's safe to assume it wouldn't be NEARLY as shitty as SotD. Suda has been described as being "heartbroken" while he worked on the title. There's no way that equates to him doing his best work.

It was supposed to be entirely different. From what I understand it wasn't supposed to be a shooter at all. You had a torch and did a lot of exploring. Like a horror version of FSR

It was. EA didn't just mess with story but gameplay Altering the premise means the gameplay will be changed from the original vision.

no it wasn't grasshopper manufacture is based

>he doesn't know

It had potential. You can tell it was suppose to be a completely different game with a focus on horror, untill EA meddled with. It even seems like the levels were put together from different scrapped versions of game.

Shinji Mikami stated in an interview that Suda was forced to redraft the concept and story constantly to appease EA. According to Mikami he wasn't happy about it.

I am well aware. None of that matters because the events of SotD themselves are extremely self contained.

One could easily get all they need from the game form a simple youtube longplay or even "SotD Movie Edition" type video.

I recently played through it and it just seemed meh. Encountered quite a few bugs like audio not playing or some enemies not triggering.
Pic related was also pretty shitty and the shmup mini games got annoying after a while

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>those segments where you get chased by a thot and fucked to death

fuck those segments.

>Suda was forced to redraft the concept and story constantly
Yeah, like 5 times

I got a used copy for $7. If it really is that shitty, I'm not out too much and I'll just watch it. Seems pretty average ps360 era stuff though

If you own a copy already, just play it until your motivation or interest drops off and check out the rest online.

7 dollaru is the perfect amount of money this game is worth.