pcbros eat everything valve shits out into their mouth
>HL2 requires Steam
>people were pissed off, Steam was seen as a retarded idea
>now Steam is an icon of PC gaming, the same people that were criticizing it shill it now
>TF2 had microtransactions like in one of those F2P korean shooters no one knows about
>no one complained
>L4D2 came out year after L4D1 and people were pissed off
>yet they all bought it anyway
the post election zoomer cancer infesting this site might not remember it but le based valve was an epitome of jewery and still is but I don't blame them because their consummers are retarded, if I was them I would put microtransactions in Half Life 3 where you can use only a crowbar unless you buy pistol DLC and no one would bat an eye
Pcbros eat everything valve shits out into their mouth
>HL2 requires Steam
your point?
no one fucking liked this idea when HL2 was announced and steam itself is shit, it was the Origin of it's time
Someone would have done it eventually.
I'm glad it was Valve and not EA.
>>HL2 requires Steam
Not when I played it. :)
>pcbros eat everything valve shits out into their mouth
Yeah that's why Artifact is bigger than Hearthstone
Oh wait........................
I have always hated Steam. Fuck DRM and fuck gamers.
but HL2 is shit
It literally required an internet connection to play as a single player game at launch
Fucking ridiculous
>fuck gamers
>mfw people whine about things requiring internet connection
>they still are online 24/7
I remember when Counter-Strike was free then Steam came out from nowhere and put a paywall on it.
I’m not, which is why I hate it. I spend six months out of every year in a fucking trailer in he middle of nowhere Alaska working on power lines.
It was many years after Steam was forced down our throats before I was willing to buy games on the platform. Now, I still hate Steam, but the reality is a billion Steams is worse than one.
Recall that Steam became popular before HL2, when WON got Old Yeller'd. HL2 just sealed the deal.
>Recall that Steam became popular before HL2
ehhh I think you're confusing popularity for existence
just because you say this over and over again doesn't make it true, kiddo.
Everyone who played HL mods online, which was biggest multiplayer scene of the time, had to switch to Steam. Small potatoes by modern standards but proportionally, it was hugely popular.
>L4D2 came out year after L4D1 and people were pissed off
>yet they all bought it anyway
was this really an issue? L4D2 is vastly superior and theres no reason to actually buy L4D1 nowadays because the campaigns from that are in L4D2
It was an issue if you had bought L4D1.
>no one complained
your new is showing
>>TF2 had microtransactions like in one of those F2P korean shooters no one knows about
>>no one complained
I can't believe people go on the internet and just lie
Why would op do this?
i guess but its still new content
Having to install steam pissed me off so much at the time and it's the same for a lot of people.
I think the bigger problem is that the game stop functioning once the servers shut down, now your left with a usless disc that will only open to tell you there isnt a connection to be made.
Yeah, but you have to pay for it. Everyone was expecting the game to be supported like TF2 was. Instead they added one mini campaign and then told everyone to buy L4D2 if they wanted anything more. It's double annoying since 2 is what 1 should have been in the first place.
>be always online 24/7
>game servers are not
Big think
People stopped crying about steam when valve decided to make it a good platform. The same will happen with epic when they decide to take initiative
the games were fun and the sales were cheap.
>theres no reason to actually buy L4D1 nowadays because the campaigns from that are in L4D2
idk about that. you can tell l4d2 is a different game just by the animations. l4d1 had more care put into it even if i think l4d2 edges it out in its diversity or gameplay elements.
Go back to paying for your psn subscription
This post has no point.
wtf are you getting at?
L4D would have been better if they'd put more care into making good gameplay over good animations. Half the time it seems like they didn't playtest it at all.
I remember consensus at the time being very much against it. Several reviews from the time knocked points off HL2's score for requiring steam.
fuck you drone
>hl2 requres steam
No it doesn't
>people were pissed off, Steam was seen as a retarded idea
Not so retarded after all huh?
Who's the retard now user.
>now Steam is an icon of PC gaming, the same people that were criticizing it shill it now
Same as before
>TF2 had microtransactions like in one of those F2P korean shooters no one knows about
Which are one of the biggest part of the trading community and aren't obnoxious.
>L4D2 came out year after L4D1 and people were pissed off
Its wasn't as bad as call of duty and asscream spam is.
>yet they all bought it anyway
Cause it was good unlike the trash that is relased now.
Fuck you and fuck your opinion nigger.
Fuck DRM but what the hell else am I going to do. If I see a game I want to play, my urge to have fun is much greater than my urge to uphold "principles" and shit. I could either sit here and play a game I like and have fun, or not. Not a tough choice.
Steam didn't have "go offline" mode in November 2004? Because Half-Life 2 has never required an internet connection. All you need to do is basically register your product like what many programs recommended you do back then. When you go offline with Steam you can play without internet.
>When you go offline with Steam you can play without internet.
Steam need to check every month or something online to keep working offline.
>L4D2 came out year after L4D1 and people were pissed off
How the hell was that ever considered a bad thing? L4D2 was a polished and good product and made many improvements.
they kind of cut support for L4D1 because they decided to release L4D2 so quickly, it made people upset
Wasn't that just back then? When games in general were just starting to transfer to digital distribution and you needed to log in every 90 days so that duplicate CD keys wouldn't cause conflicts or something? Before digital distribution CD keys were just formatted, not unique. Nowadays you can keep Steam offline indefinitely.
>years later steam has improved and become a staple of PC gaming
>competitor comes along and imitiates the same shit behavior steam had at launch and wants to be treated as an equal, also forces people to use their shit client to play games they want to play, also touts supporting developers while burning out their own to support the moneymaking monstrosity that is fortnite
Gee I wonder why people don't like Epic, its almost like we've been through this before
No I think you still can't.
L4D was practically a beta for L4D2. It was broken and unfinished and 2 was what the actual final game should have been in the first place. The people who bought the first game got fucked.
>new service is shit at launch but improves over a decade
>some people like it, some hate it
>a decade later a different company comes along with a store just as shit at steam was at launch and forces people to come use their storefront, demanding people appreciate their outdated and horrible service
Zoomer. People hated steam because they can't play CS without it.
I was there, you underage shit.
I looked that up and apparently it was a "glitch" that was "fixed" years ago due to popular demand. I don't believe Valve saying that it was a bug but apparently it has been fixed anyway.
Ok nice to know.
For the past 14 years I have spent like 200 dollars on Steam. I did however fall for the blizzard jew and must have spent 1000 dollars on wow
jelly consolefags don't have a big daddy steam and have to pay per month for online oh nononono
YIKES
t.
>this is what slowshitters want you to believe
Basedboy btfo by arguments and logic.
You're too slow!
steam is a garbage program with numerous issues they've left unaddressed for years. it's ridiculous how bad valve is at everything. but the console-war style online storefront exclusivity deals that ea/origin did, and that epic is doing isn't an fucking answer. every client that comes out is just as bad or worse than steam. make a decent piece of software that has the good stuff that steam has and fixes the bad, and offer a big selection of games that aren't shovelware early access asset swaps or visual novels, and you'll have a successful shop.
steam is shit, origin is shit, epic is shit.
>steam is a garbage program with numerous issues
What issues.
Just offering a decent client won't be enough. Everyone's on Steam already. You're going to do something pretty special to convince people to install your client too. If you're just decent (or even good) then nobody will bother with you.
It's all free at the bay.
>TF2 had microtransactions like in one of those F2P korean shooters no one knows about
>no one complained
u wot
performance for one. the program itself is slow loading and switching between tabs/categories. loading of things like your inventory constantly bugs out and says it can't find anything. the whole inventory system is a mess actually and should've been redesigned years ago. it's slow to navigate and displays too few items per page.
the store page itself is slow to load and buggy. search results don't display what you want a lot of the time. things like dlc, bundles, and special editions aren't clear with a lot of products, although i suspect that's as much of a problem with how games are released these days as it is with steam itself.
it's bloated full of features that failed and nobody uses. their forums/community pages are unintuitive and hard to find what you actually want. the streaming section is a complete failure and should've just been removed ages ago. design-wise half their tabs are almost unusable they're so bad.
which they wont since their entire business strategy is forcing people by paying off jews
>waaaahhhhh Valves not allowed to do what they want with games they develop waaaahhhh please buy Epic
So far the only issues that makes sense are useless options and well uhh that's that.
Get an ssd and only use shop when you know what you want to buy. You have a small window on the right where you type the name of the game. Try not to do the same thing you do at subway and
>i want uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
oh, you're an imbecile. my fault, i shouldn't be talking to you.
>i dont want to talk to you anymore
what are you 15?
L4D2 was trash, but the first is still the best co-op shooter ever made. I have no idea why everyone jumped ship to the inferior sequel
better steam than securom
whats the difference except for melee weapons?
There isn’t and 2 even has an official mutation plus plenty of mods made to emulate the first one. I don’t know how someone got into the nostalgiafag mindset for a beta that was only relevant for a year.
stfu
everyone complained all the time but bought the games anyway
they turned into consolefags basically
2 is much better than 1. In 1 you don't even need weapons for 90% of the game, you just walk around in a ball spamming shove and you're invincible. Until you start an event, in which case you sit in a corner spamming shove until it ends because none of the events in the first game require you to move.
Consolefags are the biggest pussies in gaming constantly whining about everything not knowing about the giant asian cock in their asses.
I made 170$ out of one single unusual that I've scammed on tf2, and I'm not counting all the other unusual hats/bill's hat/max' head/earbuds and stuff I sold.
Thanks to steam and team fortress 2 I got myself a shitload of games for free + countless -80% deals during Christmas back then.
Get fucked you stupid chink.
I didn't really follow pc gaming that closely at the time when steam came out and I remember going to a gaming cafe and they told me I had to have a steam login to play CS. Then I stole a code for cs from walmart and created my account.
Until about 2010, I had three games on steam sam & max episodes, counter strike anthology, and civ V. It wasn't until orange box that I realized steam had a great thing.
>now Steam is an icon of PC gaming, the same people that were criticizing it shill it now
Yeah, back then it was hard to have good internet connection for singleplayer game.
Later internet wasn't even a problem, so all merits of steam becomes more obvious.