Warcraft 3 Reforges - LUA scripting for custom maps

I won't object Jaina having a bit more screentime but why the fuck does Sylvanas need any more?

That IS true draenei.
Akama on wc3 is a draenei, this is the original race
>archimonde
>Kil'Jaeden
Demons

Modern draeneis are a retcon, made at the last minute for tbc because they didn't know what to do for alliance.
Get this wow garbage out of here

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Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden are Eredar, that is the original name of their species. Draenei specifically refers to the Eredar that didn't join the Legion and fled their planet.

>Draenei specifically refers to the Eredar that didn't join the Legion and fled their planet.
WARNING
WOW RETCON GARBAGE
WARNING
WOW RETCON GARBAGE

Get this shit out of here, the moment they start adding this space ship shit this game goes to the shitter

This would have been great when WC3 was in its peak.

The joke is that WC3 was completely hideous even for its time

wc3 was the best looking rts ever made when it was released

MAKE

A

NEW

ENGINE
I want to be able to play with the physic, implemente a new AI ffs
Unit pathfinding/collusion is atrocious

Newfag detected

>Muh Custom Maps
Didn't save SC2 or Dota2.

Face it, it's not the early 2000s anymore, nowadays people have more than 3-5 games available to them. Why the fuck would anyone waste their time designing/playing a custom map when they could either try to make their fortune in the Indie scene or go on Steam and buy any of the 10/10 games you can get for under $5

It would be nice if they would give it for free for owners of original game.

They're using the same engine because it allows reforged players and people using the old version to crossplay

>Didn't save SC2 or Dota2.
Yeah because those custom game scenes were strangled in the crib

You cant buy any Footmen Frenzly or Pokemaul to be honest.

This.
And they had engines way better.
Wc3 custom map scene can't be expected to grow w/o a new engine

Awesome. I'm so happy man playing with the editor is the most fun i have with wc3. It appeals to my autism on a deep level. Hopefully less limitations in general.

>They're using the same engine because it allows reforged players and people using the old version to crossplay

That's the official excuse. In fact they could have just given the new game for free to the owner of the old version.
The unofficial reason is that it's demanding more money.

>It looks pretty alright sans a couple things
It doesn't

>In fact they could have just given the new game for free to the owner of the old version.
We both know they never would have done that, ever.

>>Muh Custom Maps
>Didn't save SC2 or Dota2.
You unironically think wc3 custom maps and that community is anything like dota2 or sc2? You're joking I hope. wc3 world editor shit was big, really big.. hell where do you think dota came from?

It looks like shit not because of the art direction but because the graphics are 2010 garbage instead of modern standards.

To be fair, and this is absolutely intentional, she will alter the campaign to connect more naturally to WoW Classic, that is, the state of the story in 2004. Combined with the de-facto re-release of WarCraft II and re-releasing the old novels in digital format, it looks to be as if Blizzard are making cautious preparations for a possible reboot/alternative timeline if Reforged and WoW Classic prove successful.

Keyword was.

Come the fuck on dude, I remember the blasting wc3 got on release because of its graphics.
It's one of my favorite games of all time but the graphics were pretty garbage for the time.

Just to put things in perspective, Half Life 2 released about a year after frozen throne

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>However, with Christie reworking the fucking story to give more spotlight to jaina and sylvanas and making things wow friendly, the writing is gonna be so shit I'm just going to skip this dumpster fire outright.
Reminder Akama won't even look like the original, true draenei anymore, he's gonna be wowfied
Dropped wow ruined everyrhing

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It unironically aged better than a lot of games from the time because it's cartoony instead of trying to be realistic.

I don't know how anyone could have not rolled Horde after playing through Founding of Durotar, shit got me so hyped to roll around Kalimdor with my own crew.

>tfw you get into WoW and it's all instance/raid shit instead of a band of 3-4 heroes taking on all odds

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You must be slow. It doesn't matter what you think is canon. It exists and you can't possibly be that ignorant. I agree that the story has gone to shit with the start of WoD, but there are good things that WoW introduced as well, including all the Draenei retcons.
But you wouldn't ever accept that, would you? You're still stuck in WC3.

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heres another rts released 2002

i never got into wow i'm still mad it killed wc3 custom game scene together with dota

You can just play the original WC3 you know. They released a patch so that it works with modern resolutions like a year ago.

and another

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What are the odds?

WoW didn't kill WC3 custom games, that shit was still going strong in WoW's beginning. What killed it was SC2 and its "any custom games you make belong to us because we don't want another DotA to slip through our hands" clause you had to sign

forgot pic

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what about the custom maps tho

>It looks like shit not because of the art direction
wrong

>They made a lazy remaster of WC3 instead of working on WC4 or SC3

sasuga nu-blizzard

>You can just play the original WC3 you know
Yeah I can just not buy reforged, and I won't because it's shit.

It is literally impossible to make wc4 because of wow
They completely destroyed everything made in wc3 just to have recognizable loot pinatas and with the stupid end of the world shit they do with wow every year, you can't have a game that happens in the future of it

Can't blame them. The RTS genre is dead. The company is not doing that well, so they cannot too many resources to a new RTS that will not sell shit. The WC3 remaster is ok, because it is pandering to nostalgia fags, and it is a low cost effort for them.

Yeah Blizzard has always been shit, we know this.

No. Wc3 was the most impressive 3d RTS at that time. It had a ton of details.

DBZ Tribute is better than most actual DBZ games.

topkek

the new battle net fucking sucks compared to the old one as well. the old browser made it so easy to find new maps, and create lobbys for your own shitty ones. sc2 was just a ui clusterfuck where nobody played anything that wasnt on the top 10 page.

you can compare it to the front page of reddit and the front page of any Yea Forums boards. anyone can get seen instead of just the sponsored shit.

It was universally panned for cartoonish artstyle and dated graphics.
Doesn't matter most of rts was behind them, it's more of high expectations from then-Blizz

GIVE ME WOW 2 NOW!

They really fucked themselves over with milking WoW dry and going for the ultra casual crowd with everything else they did.
What do they even have coming up other than shitty remasters of old games; they shitcanned their next mmo for Overwatch which nobody even cares about anymore.

>best looking game of its kind
>panned

We didn't see the same reviews.
The cartoon artstyle was a pro for me : It mixed the graphic limitations with the art very well.

no it wasn't you are full of shit, w3 is one of the reasons wow is so big

I'd be interested if it wasn't dead on arrival

They should have remade WC1 because that is the one game in the series that actually has aged badly in terms of gameplay. Warcraft Orcs and Humans is not a fun game to play.

>It was universally panned for cartoonish artstyle and dated graphics.
Not him but that's because it came out in a time when everyone was unironically an edgelord and we didn't accept anything that wasn't dark and gritty.

I loved WC3's visuals on release and I still love them today.

ign.com/articles/2002/07/02/warcraft-iii-reign-of-chaos-2
>The graphics throughout the entire title are truly amazing and really need to be lauded.

gamerstemple.com/game-reviews/pc/23/warcraft-iii-reign-of-chaos-review
>In fact, all of the game's graphics are gorgeous and detailed. Warcraft III marks Blizzard's entry into the world of 3D graphics, and the result is colorful, animated maps that let you zoom in for a close-up look. The graphics can be described as cartoonish, but not in a bad way.

you're so full of shit

>thinking that eyesore is better
yikes

>w3 is one of the reasons wow is so big
Literally revisionist history lmao, 99% of the people who played WoW in the first few years didn't even know what the fuck Warcraft 3 was and just learned about it from South Park

Blizzard has never cared about graphics, always accessibility.

thats the fucking point. compare those to wc3 which was released the same year.

i can tell you're a kid because literally everybody with a pc played wc3. blizzard was the fucking king back then and everyone played their games

>Didn't save SC2 or Dota2.

autochess

>using fucking IGN as a source
>some literally who blog post

OH WOW SURE IS UNIVERSALLY PRAISED YUP YOU SURE SHOWED HIM

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I said this on previous WC3R threads too, they have that chinese-y look. They just look so weird like some bootleg shit.

The only people who played WC3 were the fags who were too casual for Starcraft

WC3 players were the cowadoody zoomers of their time

thats a shitty strawman

That's because it's a 1998 engine trying to render 2010 graphics.

No, it's pointing out the fact that neither of your sources are reputable or representative of the gaming zeitgeist at the time

dota killed WC3 customs. Everything became fucking dota or dota clones, then the bot hosting started.

WC3 was fairly popular but even at its peak the playerbase fucking PALED in comparison to WoW post-beta

Just because it's based on WC3 lore doesn't mean the players knew fuck all about WC3 bub.

then provide sources to back yourself up then. i just did and you went fucking bananas

>2d vs 3d sprites
lmao retard

That doesn't contradict his point at all. The graphics were not considered impressive at the time. They weren't bad but they weren't great either and Blizzard had already made a name for itself by then.

It was a great game and it contributed to the success of WoW. Sure, most people who came in later had never played it but the original crowd came in from WC3 and the fact that the game was based on a strong existing lorebase from WarCraft games really contributed to the world being so interesting. That doesn't change the fact that WC3 looked average at best, though.

>thinks IGN was always the same mockery it is today
Blizzard is also the same respected industry giant today as they were in the early 2000s, right

Unironically can't wait for Dota 3. Dota 2 is such an ugly bloated mess these days with cosmetic looking like a gaudy turd on fire.

>Why the fuck would anyone waste their time designing/playing a custom map
because it's 100x easier to make a custom game than to make a indie game with the same level of graphics and engine, and it's much easier to get noticed and played as well

>It was universally panned for cartoonish artstyle and dated graphics.

"no"

God Hand sucks (and you know it).

> when everyone was unironically an edgelord and we didn't accept anything that wasn't dark and gritty.
Except wc3 was dark and gritty filled with edgelords characters.

why can't they just make Warcraft 4?

That's not a fact, it's your opinion. You've offered no evidence whatsoever. You said it was "universally" panned. His posts proved you wrong. Deal with it, I bet you work for Blizzard

So when is it getting released?

>mod in old models
>masturbate to thoughts of your cat

yes but it objectively sucks less than imagine: party babies

You don't want to play a Disney RTS, trust me.

Yeah sure lets pay for the old game with new graphics but mod out the new graphics for the old graphics, thanks Bli$$ard

Underaged zoomer confirmed

People were saying "can't spell ignorant without IGN" back when you were still in diapers, you retarded faggot

google.com/search?q="can't spell ignorant without ign"&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:200,cd_max:2005&tbm=

>can't spell ignorant without IGN
Oh my, that's hella lame.

Name a bigger reviewer in 2003

It is, but my point remains. IGN was a laughing stock back when they were still N64.com

EGM
1UP

lol

You could also mod in fan made remodelings later on.

I could also not buy it

Are they going to replace the old Arthas voice? If so, fuck them.

Also SC "Remaster" was a dumpster fire.

You're autistic. You're aware that WC3 retconned shitton of things as well, right?

/thread

Nothing important

Didn't they say there'd be an option to keep old music and old voicelines? Starcraft 2 lets you use old SC1 music atleast instead of SC2's.

There's an option to use old graphics, old voices, and old soundtrack if you want to.

No thanks!

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fpbp
fucking based
remember not even the chinks want this shit.

Ah yes, an option to keep the old graphics, old voices, old soundtrack, in fact old everything...

For only $29.99! Thanks Blizzard!

No, you can choose any of these at will.
Also, big point of Reforged is that it'll be compatible with original WC3, so you don't even need to buy it. That's why original WC3 is updated ->

yeah nah, people abandoned starcraft the moment gooks were set on loose, and everyone switched to other games including WoW.
History repeated itself on League of Legends too.
user IGN was always a laugh stock, not as bad as kotaku, but still bad. These online reviews were popularized in 2007 where everything turned shit and the nerd "culture" was bastardized and got mainstream, where playing games weren't a shut in hobby but rather a completely accepted thing.

Here coems the shit stuff:
Normies needed someone else who can form opinions for them, because they are uncapable of doing so, obviously because they have no experience whatsoever. Too bad the guys who made these opinions were not better than them either and there you go: video game journalism at its finest. Honestly probably the magazine days were the most believable ones, but even then shilling existed so whatever, but there were certainly people who would tear apart shitty games like it should be.

kek Mopfags are forever aids and never should be taken even remotely seriously.

>No, you can choose any of these at will.
Yeah.... by not paying for it.

>Muh Custom Maps
>Didn't save SC2 or Dota2.

>Face it, it's not the early 2000s anymore, nowadays people have more than 3-5 games available to them

You think the mouth breathers in this thread will ever admit that? These faggots are the exact same as the ones from "Muh Classic" threads who are so delusional they seriously don't understand that the gaming market is absolutely nothing like it was back then.

That's what I said too, retard.

Then stop shilling it

You didn't need to pay for the old soundtrack in SC2 either you stupid fuckface.

What the fuck do I care about "the market" you spastic? lol

Warcraft 2 Remaster when? HotS already managed to get the perfect feels of what a War 2 remaster looks like in Alterac Pass. What's fucking stopping them?
youtu.be/0rESl9P2BPg
Everything on this map screams warcraft 2 feels.

>if it doesn't fit my epic narrative then it's shilling
Back to console war threads.

youtube.com/watch?v=ycKgW9teCZA

>narrative
Nice buzzword, now tell me what my narrative is

You will when you realize your shitty boomer game is going to be DOA because it's a shitty archaic genre that no one plays anymore.

>classic will fail
>pirated classic servers has thrived with 10k pop servers for years

that looks like a cheap chinese mobile phone game

Are you retarded? I'm not even going to play it. That has nothing to do with the "market" though, whatever the fuck that means. You're spouting shit to sound intelligent on Yea Forums.

Reminder that they also plan on changing the gameplay and balance.

>they will never add the Burning Legion and Naga as playable armies
Feels bad man.

NO BUBBLE

How when they're rewriting the story to focus on Jaina/Sylvanas more? Apparently they're also removing some dialogue and potentially unit quotes as well (like "me not that kind of orc")

Considering what they're doing to WC3, hopefully never.

Literally outland black temple placed in middle of draenor somehow

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the HotS style wouldn't fit WC3 at all, fucking libidocucks

>with the start of WoD
fucking lmao
the story went to shit in TBC

>Wow voice actors
I don't want new voice actors, you can keep telling me it's the same Blizzard but it isn't.

I notice the difference and it feels incosistent. Why not use the old voice actors? Oh that's right you'd have to pay them then.

>Oh that's right you'd have to pay them then.
...
You are aware that 90% of wc3 voice were made by writers and shit?

>Oh that's right you'd have to pay them then.
I'm willing to bet a lot that the WoW voice actors are way more expensive than WC3's ever were

>lets make one of the most recognizable storys, beloved by pretty much every Warcraft-fan adapted to our ongoing WoW story which is seen as fucking trash by every WoW player and nobody fucking cares about.

of fucking course blizzard would pull it off

Because autists like thinks that "Warcraft cant be cartoony anymore because it looks like a mobile game, so lets use Mop Shit'

which is retarded, whcn in fact it was the art team who is full of egocentric shits wanting to be "famous" with their own modernized garbage.

because pre WoW retcons map has shown that the entire land clusterfucked into one huge land

what?

And still better than the actors they hire today? amazing

every single rts up to the original Dawn of War vanilla aged like wine, the artstyle saved it a lot

which cant be said to any rts from 2005 and onwards

The fuck are you talking about? I never said it shouldn't be cartoony.

They pretty much said that whey they upgraded the original models with high poly, they looked like a "mobile game"

then what the fuck the new models are, and what happened to those made for Starcraft 2?

>Don't buy reforged
>Get these updates anyway

Anyway, is anyone else working on custom maps for the release? I've got a map concept done, but no one to test it with.

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I hate the fact that they are going to retcon Arthas into a evil guy : He did nothing wrong.

>because pre WoW retcons map has shown that the entire land clusterfucked into one huge land
And it's still would be impossible to clusterfuck like that, if land didn't started gathering around black temple

Absolutely based. Bhop?

How the fuck are you getting all that from "it shouldn't look like HotS"?

Remastered is free, you only pay for the upgraded graphics you stupid nigger

Look god, i'm looking forward toward the custom maps so i welcome more.

Ill test it with you user

Not him. The dev interviews literally mirror what that fag is saying. They updated the WC3 graphics to modern standards, people complained about it looking cheap (as in, just like HoTS or the billion mobile games which use the WC3 aesthetic to this day) so they put on their thinking caps and came to the conclusion Pandaria intro-like visuals would be the best way forward.

Not true. Blizzard even did an April fools joke previewing an upcoming "RTS based on WoW" which was literally WC3 screenshots and it caused a shitstorm on the forums bitching about how outdated it looked etc

>old good!
>new bad!
As expected nothing new to see in these threads.

Warcraft 3 and TFT were replaced by reforged package, which is bullshit.

if you want to play those, you need to buy Reforged
also blizzard isnt helping because they are giving voice to grubby to balance the game, and the team is going for the WoW hordefagotry bullshit to balance the game by making UD and orcs stronger, while humans and NE receives the nerfhammer

Knowing golden because of the fucking arthas book, she will say that Arthas was inoccent Anduin before his Horse died and doubts started to screw with his faith.

The original campaign was great because we saw Arthas losing faith and becoming desperate, Stratholme was where his snapped out because he failed to save his people, and was fooled to take frostmourne and have his soul stolen to become the arthas that became the LK

Paladin Arthas = Broken man who feared lose those he loved.
Death Knight Arthas = A Souless Construct made from his negative traits and fears.

also, the Intro on reforged is garbage even with the classic voices
>youtube.com/watch?v=ARWW_p9LCDM
>youtube.com/watch?v=sC_SZToF82U

the fucking interview about the art change states that, they streamlined everything to MoP Cinematic artstyle to be streamlined with WoW's bullshit

pretty much this, sadly HOTS models fits in WoW, but the flat textures are bad since they arent cartoony as war 3 originals

I think there's an option to have the old voice actors.
I'm lucky, in France, almost all the actors weren't replaced for wow, and so they still sound kino.

>Blizzard even did an April fools joke previewing an upcoming "RTS based on WoW" which was literally WC3 screenshots and it caused a shitstorm on the forums bitching about how outdated it looked etc

This hurt way more than it should have

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>remastered is free, you only pay for the remastered stuff
lol

The comments in the videos from people hyping dota "3", ff or uther party were hilariously delusional. Not to mention the numbers of "I didn't play the original so this looks perfect for me" (proceeds to drop the game after a week).

where is that april's fools post, i want to kill a wowfag today

how does that invalidate what he said

PCGamer because it was actually good back then.

Yeah I'm sure Illidan's WC3 VA is more expensive than Liam O'Brien. Come on, user.

And what did they say about WC3's graphics?

old IGN was still a Good reviewer, gamespot, gamespy

back then, people still played and made gmes for fun, before they started to hire UCLA and Seattle sjw reviewers who never tuched a pc game and were MKULTra by the socialist bullshit perpetuated by the Human Science and philosophy teachers

Blizzard is still Anal with the old Vocie actors and the old voice actors had enough of blizzard's backstabbing.

Just Look at Arthas OG voice actor, Illidan's VA was reduced to voice Pandas

who cares we have dota 2

All I want is to be able to play using the old games when/if the custom scene gets revived.

>old IGN was still a Good reviewer, gamespot, gamespy
fucking lmao
>back then, people still played and made gmes for fun, before they started to hire UCLA and Seattle sjw reviewers who never tuched a pc game and were MKULTra by the socialist bullshit perpetuated by the Human Science and philosophy teachers
your entire post reeks of nu-Yea Forums

>WC3's graphics were universally panned by reviewers
>Here's one of the most popular review sites saying they liked the graphics
>THAT'S NOT A REPUTABLE SOURCE unrelatedpic.jpg
How do you get this retarded? At least post a few sources for your claim.

>this whole post
apply yourself next time you illiterate nigger.

And here's a Gamespot review saying it looks great. Where are the reviews panning its graphics?

i will apply to your fucking mother and your sister 1st you double tranny nigger

Why would they give something away that they spent money making?

I used to make a lot of maps. scrapped due to uninstalling and reinstalling back and forth but i still have them in my head if that makes sense. Also have a proper map with units and so forth and relative numbers I prefer but I am saving that autism this time for warcraft 3 reforged.

>Deathwing was in Draenor originally.

Fucking rad.

They said you can play with the old graphics. I like those better.

Diablo 4 is in the works.

I can't recall, but Computer Gaming World's review praised its graphics.

you reek of slav

I can play with the old graphics by just playing the original game

literally what is the point of reforged

Forgot pic

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>back then, people still played and made gmes for fun, before they started to hire UCLA and Seattle sjw reviewers who never tuched a pc game and were MKULTra by the socialist bullshit perpetuated by the Human Science and philosophy teachers
I swear this place has become a fucking parody of itself

Fresh online players to crush in ladder.

based retard

What matters is you can use the old graphics and voices in multiplayer.

so is this going to reignite the custom maps ? pls say yes

cgwmuseum.org/galleries/issues/cgw_218.pdf
Here's the issue of CGW that reviews Warcraft 3 btw
>And man alive, does it look great. From the corrupted forests to the sun-blasted wastelands to the snowy wilderness, the environments are visually rich and alive, as is every unit and hero

But you don't even need to buy reforged for that

newfag who never played warcraft 2 detected

Those died for a completely different reason and that isn't getting undone (rise of indie games, free acccess to game developing engines and assets,...).

>I think there's an option to have the old voice actors.
They already said, they plan to add additional content to make WoW characters stand out more, especially Sylvanas I think. I can't imagine doing that without dialog, so there HAVE to be new voice lines one way or another. It won't be the same game, their one preview alright showed that.

Found the trannyterra nigger

and in the cancelled lords of clans game, thrall would meet him stoned

i just wish to know how much blizzard will pay to bring Justin Gross back to voice Arthas, also Classic maiev not sounding like smoker female batman since its still the same VA

Here's what they had to do:
>increase maximum map size and resources
>remake lighting system while retaining all other 3D assets
>redraw UI for new ultra-high resolutions
That's all. Every old game shines much better with new lighting than it does with new high-poly models and detailed textures.

>redraw UI for new ultra-high resolutions

Talk about a tall order.
RTS games have never even been able to adapt to fucking 16:9 aspect ratio, let alone a fucking ultrawide monitor.

The PCZone review called the visuals of Warcraft 3 "impressive."
pixsoriginadventures.co.uk/PCZone/PC Zone 119 (September 2002)/PC Zone 119 (September 2002).pdf

>new high-poly models
That's not even the issue, the hacks just made new models. It wasn't graphics that made W3 so good, it was the style. The chinks working on the remake are all soulless by default, and so is their new style. Did you see the Arthas model in the preview? I couldn't believe someone green-lit that.

But wc3 customs are better than indies

warcraft adventures had bearded female Dwarves
>youtube.com/watch?v=gHtKWDlaQEc

>and in the cancelled lords of clans game, thrall would meet him stoned
Yeah, on Azeroth. Because Deathwing is from there, and he had to run to Outworld in WC2 after Alexstrasza tore him a new asshole.

Stoned as vid
>Also Ivy Nocturnal voicing alex

This, it's not coming back, people would much rather try their hand at indie dev.
>Yeah because those custom game scenes were strangled in the crib
And what makes you think this one won't?

Well of course Deathwing was stoned, if you were a giant fearmongering dragon who had to hide out in a cave from an angry ex what would you do to pass the time?

Who cares?

also Deathwing was Alex's rebellious son, therefore he was a retard teenager, and she helped the horde willingly instead of the rape retcons.

Correct. I actually just bought 1 and 2 off GOG.

>mfw playing WC1.

Jesus christ how did anyone play video games back then?

Is Chinese.

And while the usual rules don't apply to mainlander Chinese, neither can you expect people to just jump and go play Chinese-made custom games.

>i want handholding

and thats why the 90's and 80's kids had better and non handholding games

zoomer stop larping.

A truly 3D rts was amazing for its time. Before this we had shit like Red Alert 2 or Tiberian sun.

Hold your horses. If you were a retard playing the disgustingly outdated C&C games (and Red Alert 2 was actually worth tapping back into nostalgia), then yes.

However, by WC3's time, most RTS have already been 3D for quite some time.
Homeworld came out all the way back in 1999. Both it and Cataclysm had gorgeous 3D graphics years before WC3.
Earth 2150, Battle Realms, Age of Mythology, Sacrifice (now that was a marvel), Emperor: Battle for Dune, Metal Fatigue,...

3D RTS games were absolutely not rare when WC3 came out. Fuck, just look at the pre-release footage of WC3. The early prototypes were already totting the same graphics all the way back in 2000.

Warcraft 3 was from 2003 and a year later we had the Original Dawn of War

also one deal wbout War3 being like that
>blizzard never managed to fix the performance problems with more polygonal models ingame

something that Total Annihilation did years before war 3

>larping this hard

spotted the asshole born in 2005

custom games died pretty much solely because WC3 got super old. died being a relative term, you can still play them, it barely takes a minute or two to fill up a 12-man footman frenzy game.

>Deathwing died and exploded like a bitch for being too fat and smoking

i wish this game was canon

I want old dota to be alive again.
I'm tired of the forced teamfight/memepush strats and supports getting lvl25 with stupid xp/gpm talent

Don't pretend like 1 didn't have flaws that were slowly streamlined in the sequels

>Warcraft 3 was from 2003
You are trying to tell ME I was born in fucking 2005 yet it's you who can't even get the fucking date right. WC3 came out in 2002. 2003 was TFT with WoW launching on 2004.

I'd also like to add that the SC2 scene never took off because of a variety of reasons.
>Blizzard was still sore from their Dota 2 asshurt and tried to claim the intellectual property of all maps made with their editor
>The editor was a convoluted mess on release compared to the WC3 editor
>The lobby system was completely fucked and only the most popular maps ever got any attention with the way it was designed

I've heard they have corrected a lot of that by now, but it's too little too late.

To be fair, and this is absolutely intentional, she will alter the campaign to connect more naturally to WoW Classic, that is, the state of the story in 2004. Combined with the de-facto re-release of WarCraft II and re-releasing the old novels in digital format, it looks to be as if Blizzard are making cautious preparations for a possible reboot/alternative timeline if Reforged and WoW Classic prove successful.

Starcraft Remastered had an option to use the original audio and voices from the 1998 game, what makes you think this wont be the same.

yeah, i feel people really don't appreciate just how amazing worldedit was at the time, in terms of both being very powerful but incredibly easy to use (i figured out the trigger editor without tutorials when i was like 12).
of course it doesn't hold a candle to things like Unity nowadays, but the other huge advantage it had was when you made a custom map/game in it, it already had a huge playerbase since anyone playing WC3 was basically two clicks away from playing your map. the lobby system being completely unbiased was great from both a player's perspective and a creator's, as you could play whatever new things you wanted or host something if you really wanted to play something in particular, and as a creator all you had to do was host to get people to play your map.
i think the big problem with SC2 and Dota 2's editors were neither managed to get those two things down. the editors are more powerful for sure, but they sacrificed ease of use. furthermore, the lobbies weren't just complete anarchy of people hosting whatever they wanted, but curated lists showing the most popular games, which is a good way to strangle innovation. that said, autochess blew up somehow so maybe there's still hope for dota 2's somewhere.

>autochess blew up somehow so maybe there's still hope for dota 2's somewhere

There's a fuckton of Chinese and they couldn't give less of a flying fuck about Pudge Wars or other western maps.

Not that it's too relevant but this was actually true in WC3 as well. On the asian server they mostly played their own homegrown maps instead of the popular western ones, like they had an AoS called "chaos" or some shit that was way more popular than DotA.

*More popular than dota on the asian servers, not more popular than dota in general.

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>inb4 I was just pretending to be retarded I actually trolled you all.

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LOL. The talking wallets would be too much mad at this.

Maybe if a reboot took place, but an alternative timeline? After all, basically the WoW Classic teaser was a giant "Chromie lets us go back in time" affair. Perhaps it's supposed to be humorous and, if succesful, would give a pretext for having a separate timeline?

I wouldn't mind some sort of reboot of the WoW timeline and if they developed new content starting from vanilla again, but I feel like it would end up the same as retail. The reboot would still have the same team of fuck ups who would most likely run into the same pitfalls they did with retail.

Maybe not a total reboot, but going forward while fixing some of the plot mistakes (alternative timeline, so similar places/people, yet diferent). Just imagine.
>Kael'Thas is not a cartoon villain, but an actual NPC and leader of Outland Blood Elves,
>every single new ability, if added later, would be attained via a lengthy/difficult class quest, which would fill up the Outlands/Vanilla+ with new content,
>Worgen are still added as a race, but Gilneas and surrounding area is a proper, Vanilla-style, level 1-20 region(s) instead of an instance.

You could add so much more.