>The game passed one million copies sold this week across PC and consoles, and more than a quarter of those sales were on the Epic Games Store. Saber Interactive chief executive Matthew Karch told VentureBeat that the game has sold particularly well on the store outside of the US.
>“Overall the US and EU have been equally strong in sales. We have had 70,000 people playing at once across all platforms, with very similar distribution among PC, PS4 and Xbox," he said. "What surprises us is the fact that sales outside of the US on the Epic Store have been so strong, with the US being only one quarter of sales.”
>In a separate press release, Karch added: “On the PC specifically, we are performing way above expectations thanks to the support we have received from the Epic Games Store." He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations.
>It's another indication that launching on the Epic Games Store rather than Steam is not harming developers' sales figures: last month Epic said that Metro Exodus, another exclusive, sold 2.5 times better on the store than Metro: Last Light did on Steam.
>23k concurrent peak on PC is amazing The absolute state of epic shills
Mason Wood
well someones doing the buying
Angel Brown
You get paid to repost this all day everyday
Eli Torres
>Posting the same thread again I used to think this was ironic shilling, really not so sure anymore
Nathaniel Richardson
isn't this game just a Left 4 Dead ripoff?
Liam Harris
>another one of those copypasta threads
Ryder Allen
>Facepunch
McFucking Kill Yourself
Carson Butler
Why does PC Gamer shill Epic so hard? Why do people even give online publications any attention at all?
Angel Miller
Based and chinkpilled.
Nathan Allen
Mad that people bought it?
It is for a program supposedly being boycotted right now
Jaxon Cooper
the game would've been buried under a sea of other shovelware in the steam store
Jordan Ward
As a steamfag, I suppose that's fairly reasonable
Jaxon Foster
>Mad that people bought it? No I don't give a shit if the Epic store is doing well or not. I'm mad you dumb faggots are marketing here and keep copy and pasting the exact same fucking thread over and again following the exact same fucking template. Your not fooling anyone. Go jump out of your fucking building Chang, wait you can't because there are fucking nets outside.
Dominic Powell
if borderlands 3 sells 1 million or more copies on Epic i will eat my physical copy of borderlands 2 screencap this
Nolan Carter
It's called being on the winning side of history.
This. People just forget just how much junk is on Steam.
Junk like broken ports like MK11 or shitty looking visual novel indies
Are you counting Epic's guaranteed sales? If so you'll probably have to eat it now
Elijah Gomez
Still no numbers
Charles Martin
If disney buys tickets to their own movies I don't see why epic wouldn't do the same.
Nicholas Lopez
Telling you now, get ready to eat a peanut butter and BADASS sandwich, because that game is gonna sell like crazy. I honestly doubt PC aren't going buy it out of principle
Jack Carter
Alright, does anybody remember the first World War Z game? It was a shitty Pay 2 Win battle royal/dayZ clone? It eventually cought shit for infringing on the recent WWZ movie that came out and changed it's name to Infestation Survivor Stories?
Why is't this game catching that same flak?
Owen Walker
It will sell like crazy on console and steam, yes.
Dylan Stewart
Because this is licensed, the other one was called The War Z and wasn't
You're friends are smart, game is worth $20 tops and definitely not worth making an epic account for
Nolan Wood
>checks filenames >checks hashes Oh, so it is you again the chinkoid VPN lord? Got a new VPN after previous one got banned not long ago? JANNIES. YOU'VE GOT A BAN EVASION HERE.
Christopher Lopez
The last number they gave was 85m, so that's a 0.003 rate with a fuckload of advertising. Ouch.
Juan Gomez
that has nothing to do with exclusivity. it could have been on both and gotten more exposure overall.
Lincoln Cruz
Do people not use the discovery queue?
Ian Jones
Too many clicks
Chase Diaz
This might be true, but we still need numbers
Anthony Butler
guys seruous question here my steam wont open i click on it and double click on it and it doesnt open what do yes ive tried turning it off and on again
Matthew Baker
>sells 'way above expectations' thanks to epic store exclusivity >thanks to epic store exclusivity >thanks to epic Really, nigga? Can they be any more transparent with this shilling?
Give me ONE example of a product that SELLS MORE because it's only available in one place
Christian Wright
I'd rather suck Satan's cock than fall for the chink meme
Adam Jones
>He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. >He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. >He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. >He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. Right
Adrian Lopez
Mcdonalds go into kfc and ask for a micrib then see what happens
Adrian Myers
sony exclusives sony ponies wouldn't buy those trash movie games if they didn't have the sony stamp on it
Alexander Bennett
>He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. fucking lmao, I wonder why
Matthew Nelson
close the steam processes
Cameron Powell
based retard
Benjamin Ramirez
I do, but despite filtering MMORPG and MOBA, I still get a lot of shit.
>Give me ONE example of a product that SELLS MORE because it's only available in one place
Nintendo products you goober
Mason Wright
So the hack isn’t writing for them anymore and you for some reason think he hasn’t been replaced by someone who is just as cucked and probably more of a hack?
>literally left 4 dead 3 >nobody would notice it doubt
Liam Reyes
Reminder that this game doesn't have private lobbies so if you have three mates and are looking for a coop experience you are forced to constantly kick the chinks and other mongoloids that join your game.
Also there is an epidemic going on where people just join lobbies and kill their team (ending the match, the new player gets all the experience you farmed up till that point). its so fucking poorly made
Yeah because thanks to the exclusivity they expected it to not sell at all.
Christopher Ward
It doesn't sell more thanks to exclusivity retard
that might be true but I doubt it if a game is available on multiple platfroms, it will always sell more, you literally can't prove me wrong
and how the fuck are you supposed to know nintendo games 'sell better' because they're just on nintendo?
For example, do you think a Mario game wouldn't be succesful on Playstation? See Monster Hunter World and reconsider. Nintenbabs cried for months before release that it would flop BECAUSE it wasn't on nintendo but guess what happened
Take skyrim as another example, it's a multiplat that is sold LITERALLY EVERYWHERE and it makes a shitload of money than what it would have if it was on just one platfrom
Nathan Young
>console analogy Gee no wonder Timmy boy tries to do exactly the same shit by bringing consolitis to PC market. I mean in their announcements it's not just a PC anymore, it's the name of store which sounds like your typical console game announcement. What a fucking joke. >inb4: OHHHHH NUUUUUU JUST DOWNLOAD ANOTHER LAUNCHER IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO BUY NEW HARDWARE
Owen Hill
t. Bugman
Chase Kelly
>give numbers for this but use ambiguous shit for metro why?
Blake Carter
Because Metro sold like shit and this one sold...acceptably?
>Madam President gets 3 million more votes than tRump >dump voters: sHow mE teH nuMberS
Charles Miller
Because according to their own words they are referring to launch sales of Metro: Last Light (not Redux) which sold like shit. It's probably around 40-50k copies which of course doesn't justify the money they spent on exclusivity deal. They needed to swing their mongoloid dicks around in a hurry hence why 2.5x number instead of real numbers.
Angel Thomas
An attach rate of .003 is pretty fucking bad. I mean, 250k units is decent for the developer but to imply it's because it was an epic exclusive is a joke.
Carson Ramirez
It's a tag
Aiden Lewis
it's on the contract
Tyler Sanchez
>using drumpf analogies dumb burger
Charles Morgan
I wasn't looking for a review, I dont trust Yea Forums to give a non biased opinion on a fucking PB&J.
Leo Carter
And what would the same sale figures say if it was sold on Steam?
Dylan Perry
>It's another indication that launching on the Epic Games Store rather than Steam is not harming developers' sales Well fucking yeah, launching on a platform at all is better than not launching at all.
Michael Turner
>broken ports like MK11 what, mk is fine from what I've played?
Anyone who uses EGS will eat their words here by the end of the year. Just wait t. Insider
Nolan Gomez
Whatever the news say. It's not like I am dropping Steam for another digital store.
Dylan Moore
this my wifes sons uncle works at nintendo and says that EGS and Tim Sweeny will arrest after the muller report is released
Chase Barnes
>VPN lord gets smarter and starts renaming his pics and tries do crust them as much as possible Hey anons, here we are seeing the evolution of subject called chinkoid. Aren't you tired of posting the same shit from thread to thread? Oh and btw the guy behind this game is now working for Capcom.
Cameron Hernandez
I mean, they probably won't lose access to the games they bought at the very least if anything happens. I'll bite though, what'll happen, a wegame client merger or something?
Jeremiah Gutierrez
>indie trash with 0 marketing nice comparison, chink
Levi Scott
Damn that's really decent for a megaman fan game. I bet he's proud. It also has a 91% rating.
yeah because its shit. at this point, people only know about this game because epic not shutting the fuck up about every game that sells on their store. bad publicity is still publicity.
>hey look guys we bought out exclusivity to a game, literally creating a monopoly. devs get more money while you get fucking nothing out of it. fuck you, buy our shit and boycott steam because fuck them right? xDD
Levi Turner
>Dev goes to Epic store >Sells 9 copies >HAHAHAH EPIC STORE NIGGERS GET BTFO
>Other Dev goes to Epic store >Sells gangbusters >T...THIS DOESNT HAVE A CORRELATION WITH ANYTHING
Seething Steam-drones
Xavier Ward
damn i didn't know this was exclusive and i kinda wanna play it but i guarantee none of my friends will buy it since it's egs exclusive. fucking bugmen store.
James Brown
Micropenis
Luke Hall
EGS will take a huge cut into Valves markeshare.
Mark my words
Josiah Taylor
>movie licensed zombie game expected to sell less than 250,000 i feel like this is pathetic and hilarious. no wonder they took an exclusivity deal
Isaac Nguyen
Never heard of this game before. No ads, no commercials, no nothing. Zombie shooters are old news, quite honestly a decade ago I never thought I'd hear myself say that, but they're overdone. If it only sold because of exclusivity then people are worried about it being buried under shovelware which speaks volumes of the weak qualities of the game itself.
why do I keep seeing this shovelware game posted in epic threads
Robert Jones
I'm not even a steamdrone, but do you think that Valve will allow this exclusive buying bullshit to continue? Not at all. Infact they're gonna play fire with fire. Steam has several golden nuggets sitting in it's pockets that no one has even though about.
Aaron Collins
It was at e3 last year and this year they paid a bunch of streamers to play it
Justin Jones
It's safe to say they're lying.
Gavin Smith
Like what? There is nothing Valve can put out that would somehow stop EGS gaining marketshare.
Gabriel Hall
>valve has kept silence all these years >seriously thinking they'll suddenly break their silence because of some chink slave throwing temper Sure.
Josiah Bennett
I don't keep up with streamers. I don't do zoomer media. I don't remember it from E3 last year, either, which speaks of its memorability. It might be a fine game, but I must have completely glossed over it existing. I never saw anyone talking about it at all outside of epic shill threads on Yea Forums, which says something to me.
The only winning move for valve is to not say anything and keep going on like they're not a big deal, because in the sea of shit game launchers and platforms they aren't.
Cooper White
ironic because wwz is already dead
Wyatt Robinson
>Steam has several golden nuggets sitting in it's pockets Hahahahaha, there is nothing they can release, they have nothing.
Zachary Smith
>Epic shills coping this hard >250,000 copies. >gangbusters >Being this much of a retard >Mfw Tim sweenie acts like a single game sale on his shit launcher means anything when it could be getting 20x the amount of sales on steam. >Mfw Epics ching-chong funds will eventually run dry, their launcher will improve, cost more to upkeep and they'll be forced to set their profit splits on par with steam. >Mfw Valves been holding radio silence because they know it won't last. >Mfw they inevitably go under after losing Their Rice Patty lunch money because they decided to double down on forcing exclusivity deals.
>20x the amount of sales on steam. >he seriously and unironically thinks WWZ would sell 5M copies, which is a number only a few games sell on Steam
Steamfags this delusional
Ryan Barnes
Albeit exaggerated I think the point user was trying to make is that it would have sold a lot more copies in general on steam.
Easton Collins
non pc gamers call every pc game a broken port
Jack Morgan
>game devs make game timed epic exclusive >get money from epic >when it releases on steam people buy it just to spite epic i wouldnt be surprised if this will start to become a thing
>The Switch though has seen a number of ports sell better than anticipated. Despite already being out for over three years, the Switch version of Shovel Knight sold better than any of the other versions at launch according to its developer, Yacht Club Games. Wonder Boy: The Dragon’s Trap, Forma.8, and other games have seen similar success. SMG Studios noted in September that Death Squared sold more on the Switch in the first three days than all other platforms it released on combined, while the same thing happened to the Zelda-like exploration game Oceanhorn. And then there was SteamWorld Dig 2, Immage & Form’s action platformer that sold 10 times more on Switch than on Steam.
Cooper Gomez
How can you fucking cunts be so dumb?
How do you not realize that this is the exact same thing as console wars? These fucking threads only serve the purpose of giving Valve and Epic more publicity and you are eating that shit up.
Austin Rivera
People like stirring the pot. They're also paid to in some cases.
Jaxon Scott
T. Outsiders That's the whole point you fucking morons, is to get chinese chink loving faggots like you thinking only retarded chinky thoughts. How do you know they have nothing? The moment Valve even lets out a whimper, will be a thunderous roar for everything. You have absolutely no idea the amount of shit that's gonna happen this October.
Kevin Sanchez
How the fuck does that make any sense >It sold more cause you can't get it anywhere else on PC
Absolutely retarded
Nathaniel Green
Cmon, then tell us.
Aaron Moore
There is nothing going to happen, Valve will do nothing. You can screencap this post.
Eli Moore
Nigger I'm pro-valve and the winning move for them is not to take the bait. The second they acknowledge epic as a viable competitor is the second they lose lots of face to consumers.
Jackson Reyes
>sold 2.5 times better on the store than Metro: Last Light did on Steam.
Lol meaning metro Exodus failed like fuck
Zachary Martin
idgaf. my library is still on Steam, that is where I am staying. add in EGS isn't supported by launchbox and i care even less.
you can add non steam games to steam library you just mad gaben isnt getting any money
Adrian Smith
Steam didn't bent over for them.
Brandon Campbell
Steam just have to wait it out, tim sweeny literally wants the % to drop so he can put fortnite on steam, his own words, his platform is fucked and ge kniws how bad his exclusive buying us, satisfactory has resorted to memes with how poorly it solf
Noah Robinson
I'll bite again, fuck it I'm bored. What's one thing that's going to happen in October, and where can we expect to see it for the first time?
Dominic Clark
How did they determine it was because of exclusivity and not in spite of exclusivity? Did they have a version of the game that's only on steam and a version of the game on multiple platforms to compare with?
Anthony Lewis
I can also add steam games to my library by buying on steam, fuck off with your barebones launcher
Asher Campbell
then how do you play non steam games faggot
Joshua Gomez
>steam store naturally sorts itself out through user ratings >shit gets filtered to the bottom >WAAAAA THIS ISN'T FAAAAAIR
By the end of summer, maybe in august. You're going to see A LOT of these "timed titles" as we call them show up more and more frequent. To the point most triple AAA or even AA titles will only be EGS. Fortnite will also take a huge roll into this as well.
Caleb Cox
>thanks to Epic Store exclusivity What kind of fucked up logic is that?
Xavier Clark
Correlation = Causation
Anthony Allen
>>steam store naturally sorts itself out through user ratings
I love this Randian fantasy world Steam drones get themselves worked into believing they're apart of
>we have a shitty marketing team that can't make our game stand out. >so we'll blame steam and put it on a chinese scam store where it'll be the only game on there instead. fair enough.
Justin Brown
It's weird, I honestly haven't heard anything about this game outside of my two chink friends. They literally buy everything though. They bought Anthem, they bought Destiny 2 after playing the first one for 2 hours and hating it, they buy loot boxes, they buy micro transactions for games they rarely play and some they claim to not even like. I've been trying to civilize them but it is a slow process. Is this just genetic with chinks? Anyone else have experience with this?
I love how they keep bringing up that this is good for developers when it's actualy good for publishers and devs don't get anything unless they self publish which these titles clearly don't.
Landon Robinson
I mean, that's literally the strategy they said they'd do for the first year or two. Assuming you're not just larping, in which camps would Dying Light 2 and a hypothetical X-COM 3 fall?
James Diaz
well steam does have more then x20 the userbase of epic so while it is an exaggeration (mainly because wwz had incredible shit marketing, I've only heard about the game ever existing when sweeny whopt it out with his epic store cock). It would be able to reach more users on steam though.
Thomas Rodriguez
through GoG you dense faggot
Robert Bell
>>It would be able to reach more users on steam though.
>#NintendoSwitch community is a blessing! #BlossomTales is now a turnaround story: Humble indie dev @castlepixel can stay in business and continue making games. Love y’all! 3 months #Switch revenues surpass #Steam lifetime revenues 20 times!
Zachary Adams
i feel like this is a false equivalence because switch has a very limited library so people are more likely to go for whatever they can get
Jose Bailey
The funny thing is most of the developers don't even know that deal was made until it is announced to the public. Swiney boy is on Todd levels of being a liar lmao.
Gavin Turner
>6.8 million 2D sprite RPGs on Steam >WTF WHY DID THIS GENERIC AS FUCK GAME SELL BETTER ON A PLATFORM THAT DOESN'T HAVE SIX TRILLION CLONES OF IT THAN ON THE ONE WHERE IT DOES? Brainlet
Nathan Jenkins
I'm gonna go buy it right now on the epic store. thanks for reminding me user.
Bentley Nelson
This is what happens when you sort Steam by user reviews. Meme games, weeb games and Factorio
Or maybe thanks to it being a decent game in an empty genre. People want L4D go figure
Ethan King
The key to success is promoting games to the Fortnite audience. An Audience Steam can't reach. That's the whole appeal of the Epic store.
Kevin Cruz
Steamcucks lose again, aren't you tired of losing? How does it feel knowing you wasted thousands of your neet/parent bucks on a dead store platform?
Sebastian Diaz
because polititcally correct gamer dont want free speech or creative freedom and they actively dislike steam for allowing user reviews and pornographic content on their platform
contrary to what's intuitive when you take things at service value modern progressive are puritan authoritarian fascists
Easton Lee
I wanted to like Amid Evil after playing Dusk but something about that game just hurts my eyes and makes it uncomfortable to play
Alexander Brown
>service surface
Thomas Adams
>We live in a world where 250,000 sales is something to brag about for a AAA title launch that had massive financial and marketing support from a 3rd party that was interested in seeing it succeed on their platform.
Sad.
Dominic Thompson
PC gamers are an embarrassment
Jayden Brown
It's getting flooded with chinkshit too. Wait until all the top game names are unpronouncable chinktalk. Ironic considering how obsessed Steam faggos are with China
Anthony Cruz
>Witcher 3 and Portal >meme games Nigga, what?
Ryder White
So why does Timmy boy talks about Steam all the time and tries his best to make games not available on Steam? I mean if he targets his own audience why he is fucking around in other audience?
Dominic Bailey
literally meaningless as epic only has AAA shite and doesnt even have user reviews
Alexander Gray
So you agree not every game needs to be on Steam, thanks
Dylan Myers
>muh exclusives when are people going to stop sucking corporate cock for 'exclusives'?
Leo Allen
>Portal 6 hour walking simulator with baby tier puzzles only sold on whacky humor. It's a meme game
Nathan Bell
Okay so what Epic achieves their endgame and now all the shovelware is on their store instead, what then?
Kayden Gomez
XDDDD GOT'EEEMMM good one brainlet boy
Adam Wood
This. Hatred really was the tipping point when a media blitzkrieg couldn't force Steam to comply. An open platform actively weakens gatekeepers.
David Thomas
>for a AAA title launch
It doesn't cost $50-$60 so it's not AAA
Some of the Chink games are good too like Bloody Spell, but chinks hate translating most games to English for some reason.
Valve drones don't want to be reminded that they supported a meme game akin to Undertale
Henry Long
>70,000 in real countries It's literally the chink store.
>Everytime you launch up steam, you get blasted with note-worthy releases or updates for games Why do game devs think Valve has to do all the marketing for them? Also I don't buy that crap, WWZ devs most likely have to lie to the media. I believe that they haveb70k players, but claiming "they are evenly spread" when PS4 outsold Xbox 13:1, I'm not buying it. Satisfactory devs are in hot waters with epic because they stated the exclusivity is hurting them.
So if you offer a good in two places, it will sell worse because in one of the places people might no notice it?
Charles Thompson
t. you right now
WWZ would literally be compared to L4D2 or Vermintide 2 if it were on Steam, being on Epic Store provides the game with its own little niche as the only co-op styled game like it on EGS
portal is a fucking classic you shit eating mouthbreather lmao
Andrew Brooks
probably similar, they shilled the fuck out of this including paying shroud to play it. The game would have been on the top sellers list of Steam for multiple days and not buried in the endless sea of indie/assetflips that everyone claims happens to games.
Gavin Rogers
>STEAM IS FINISHED FOR SURE THIS TIME GUISE, JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE! Okay, bud.
Thomas Wood
>>Everytime you launch up steam, you get blasted with note-worthy releases or updates for games >Why do game devs think Valve has to do all the marketing for them?
What if Steam deemed your game like say WWZ not worthy of being advertised?
Nathan Turner
TIANANMEN SQUARE WINNIE THE POOH REEEEEEEEE
Adam Ramirez
>He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations. kek
Jackson King
>What if Steam deemed your game like say WWZ not worthy of being advertised? literally would not happen and advertising and sales are negotiable
This but unironically, Epic will ultimately win and Steam will become a program known as being used mainly by the alt right.
The brilliance of Epic's strategy comes in a two pronged attack: The EGS exclusievs and UE4, so even if you buy MORDHAU on Steam, you're still giving Epic money.
Yes because just pleasing your publisher is not enough, pop a second cock up your ass and please the store owner as well. Don't forget to please the customers too
Nicholas Torres
So many threads over so many weeks, and I still never get an answer to "why should I install the Epic client?"
Jackson Thomas
>being retarded enough to think selling in a single store means more sales than if it were to be sold in multiple stores >being retarded enough to think literally anyone is stupid enough to believe such a statement >being retarded enough to believe such blatantly false assertions
Colton Myers
>I POSTD A EDEET UHHHHH good one brainlet boy
Owen Thomas
If "because you get free games" isn't a good answer for you, I'm not sure what is
Matthew Sullivan
You didn't address my point, so thanks for playing.
Nathaniel Perry
>thanks to Epic Store exclusivity doubt.jpg
William Watson
You know those pop-ups can be talked about with valve employees? Novel concept, to keep touch with your storefront, I know.
Elijah Williams
Here this nigglet comes again. Same text. Same pics with same filenames. Just a couple of hours ago he got all his posts btfo by jannies and yet he does it again. What stage of autism is this?
Nolan Wood
The honest answer is because it's the only place you can get X and that's really the only reason. Which is why Sweeny said something like "consumers don't matter only devs matter" because people will go where ever the games are.
Nicholas Williams
how would exclusivity increase overall sales? that's fucking retarded
Adam Clark
Functionally identical to piracy. If I'm not supporting the devs anyway, what's the difference where I get my free game from?
Camden Rogers
Yes user I'm sure every time someone asks to be on storefront Valve puts them on the storefront. Nobody thinks to ask, you're the first one to come with this idea
Sebastian Wood
not only do publishers treat consumers like this, now also devs themselves are tripping over themselves to shortsightedly procure more profit when the profits are already insane in an industry that continues to push out the most lazy shit month after month
fucking nuke this industry it needs to crash, it need to crash in 2013
Parker Williams
>how would exclusivity increase overall sales?
Google Nintendo
Jackson Reyes
Can you imagine people that sell on amazon saying amazon is bad because they don’t advertise their products for them and then switching to a shitttier online store with four things on it.
Brandon King
>Yes user I'm sure every time someone asks to be on storefront Valve puts them on the storefront. Nobody thinks to ask, you're the first one to come with this idea you still haven't explained why that isnt a valid argument, also if some bigger game happens to be first you can go before or after lol
Angel Roberts
don't you mean thanks for winning since i keep getting (You)'s and you're trying your heart out lmao
Kevin Turner
>implying i won't self-publish it store owners help me reach my customers, if i only wanted to please myself i won't sell it
Austin Garcia
>hear about that WWZ game >think to myself it's going to be a huge sucess like all those survival multiplayer shit games >it's released and I barely hear about it anymore >figure it's console exclusive >turns out it's Epic exclusive That explains everything. I don't play shitty zombie games but that shit would sell like hotcakes if it was on steam.
Eli Johnson
>make the game exclusive and we'll pay you Okay. >you also have to shill our store by saying sales exceeded expectations, but don't exactly explain how Okay.
Publishers are the bad guys here.
Joshua Bell
>Functionally identical to piracy No it isn't, updating pirated games is a pain in the ass and online stuff you can't pirate at all. Again, if free games are not a good reason you're probably not into the idea of owning games at all, move along to your torrent shop
Luis Lewis
Nobody randomly browses the fucking upcoming and newly released games tab when buying a game ever. People who buy games generally learn about them through media, friends, advertisements, review sites etc. If your game is so garbage that it needs a front page ad just to sell then maybe you should take your game to itch.io.
Nathan Williams
>also if some bigger game happens to be first you can go before or after lol Are you 12 or something? They're not letting a game that's not big enough to be on storefront on their storefront. After a bigger game they'll find another bigger game. That's just capitalism sweatie
Kevin Collins
What free games has Epic given out that have an important online component or weren't already months past the update window?
Gavin Ortiz
>They're not letting a game that's not big enough to be on storefront on their storefront. there is literally no proof of this, they even let indies have banners
Robert Adams
What's the point of self-publishing your game and then bending over backwards to please a fucking storefront?
Aaron Green
Slime Rancher and Subnautica
Brayden Foster
There is literally not a single "epic exclusive" that is any good.
Sebastian Mitchell
The Witness, What Remains of Edith Finch, Axiom Verge, Transistor, got them all for free, they're pretty good
Cooper Thomas
> how exactly the Epic Store had helped Seething retards were crying about this game and epic store on every internet forum. Obviously this game received much attention.
70 million of people who use it only play fortnite on net cafes.
Joseph Ortiz
Wow, years old humble bundle games, thanks Epic.
Lucas Peterson
I often wonder who the fuck these people are talking about "shovelware" on steam as if they haven't gone to the store with a specific game in mind 100% of the time. I'm assuming they're being paid.
Easton Anderson
>“On the PC specifically, we are performing way above expectations thanks to the support we have received from the Epic Games Store." He did not expand on how exactly the Epic Store had helped the game exceed expectations.
What help? Did Tim buy 200k copies?
Daniel Butler
well, where else would i sell it? i need to reach an audience somehow, and selling it myself will take longer for me to turn a buck due to less exposure, unless im selling a porn game
Aaron Morales
They got money from Epic to cover millions sales.
Gabriel Reyes
This is retarded they dont know how well it would have sold on steam
Robert Adams
Or maybe you should actually spend money on marketing? The fuck do you expect to happen when you enter an oversaturated market with no publicity whatsoever?
David Watson
So why do devs think steam is a free marketing platform? Isn't steam just a distribution? What am I missing
>"What surprises us is the fact that sales outside of the US on the Epic Store have been so strong, with the US being only one quarter of sales.” I fucking called that most complaining about EGS are mutts. It's like Chink smartphones all over again: >mutts lose their minds over people buying them >nobody else gives a fuck >mutts go apeshit over it every time >data comes out >literally every country but muttland is buying them in droves >mutts have a meltdown
>old games that can be pirated with no updates needed
So once again Epic offers nothing, got it.
Justin Bailey
Epic paid them in advance for the exclusivity deal, they'd be performing "above expectation" even without a single copy sold. But then again, it's not even sure since they could have sold more copies than they got paid on Steam.
Bentley Russell
You're missing the journo agenda against Steam ever since Valve refused to let them thought police their games.
Evan Wilson
tons of people have steam and steam shoved new releases in peoples face, it's a marketing line straight onto people's computers, also steam handles the management of the storefront
Colton Evans
Or maybe we just have enough taste to not buy a fucking ZOMBIE SHOOTER in 20 FUCKING 19.
Parker Hernandez
>there are hundreds of thousands of kids who only play fortnite and don't have steam anything that appeals to them, or their twitch streamer shills, will sell well
>well steam does have more then x20 the userbase of epic But it doesn't
Zachary Diaz
shit nvm i misunderstood
they're greedy and they want more more more forever
Joshua Parker
I'm rooting for the Epic store to succeed actually. The more successful they get the closer we are to getting HL3.
Jace Foster
>wishing for pc ecosystem to be ruined by exclusivity garbage because you got cucked for one game Retard.
Jaxon James
Based
Isaiah Mitchell
>the closer we are to getting HL3. nothing will ever make that happen, the management culture at valve is so fucked they wont do anything anymore because all their leaders are woefully out of touch
Andrew Evans
"It sold pretty well because we didn't have anything better to offer to our users"
Jacob Gomez
it's really tough to do so, even more if im not releasing on an instantly recognisable storefront. i'd have to be paying extra money for advertising, probably server costs and learning how to integrate that on a website which i need to pay for as well. that makes it harder for potential customers to buy my game, and inconvenience produces apathy
Luis Baker
>Nobody randomly browses the fucking upcoming and newly released games Myth. Normies and casuals do, and they are the majority of Steam audience
Hunter Baker
This, you can already see the fire being lit under Valves ass when at GDC they just bragged about how great Steam was
Valve ruined the PC ecosystem with Steam you fucking youngfag piece of shit.
Here's how it used to work before Steam
>Buy game >Install game >Play game >Lend the copy of the game to friends
> pc ecosystem What do you mean by this? Steam? HL3 will never happen. Valve are just lazy retards. Or actually they can outsource it to someone else.
Easton Butler
Then just gather some friends around and do viral, it costs nothing but time. Even if you generate some bad blood in the process, bad publicity is much better than obscurity.
Nicholas Reyes
you only ever see them by browsing for upcoming and newly released, you basically have to go out of your way to find them
even so only x amount of games are released a day and decent games immediately end up on top selling or popular/trendings tab, the only games that get buried are likely garbage. That's why you really only ever see crappy (((devs))) with 30 minute walking simulators complain about the Steam store.
Kevin Wilson
>Steam? and origin, uplay, gog and whatever else there is
the precedent of non publisher exclusivity is cancerous and not in favor of consumers in any way
Landon Ortiz
You're gonna look a bit silly come wednesday buddy.
The rumours are a Half Life VR game, L4D VR and something else called Citidel is coming with the Valve Index.
Valve also has hands in the Boneworks pie, guessing boneworks comes out soon.
Isaac Long
This is my reasoning too. I hate Valve for what they did since Portal 2. No single player games, shitty MOBA, Shitty MP FPS, shitty cards. If EGS success means Valve will actually do something either themselves or by licensing to another dev, I am all for EGS. Valve needs to get fucked.
we'll get tired sooner than it would for the storefront to recommend my game for those with similar interests using tags. with marketing only, i'd get whatever small sales i'll get, but with marketing + storefront, i'd get the small sales and extra residual sales when people discover it later while browsing the storefront
Charles Long
Why is everything that PCGamer produces now fluffpieces on the EpicFailStore?
>check out who owns them >check out shares of Future PLC >biggest investor is a company with a chink name
>crappy (((devs))) with 30 minute walking simulator and what a coincidence these are exactly the types to be progressive and be friends with modern games journalists
Eli Bennett
>expectations: 0 >reality: 12
Ok.
Nicholas Thompson
>The rumours are a Half Life VR game, L4D VR and something else called Citidel is coming with the Valve Index.
supporting epic wouldn't make things better for physical owners though, would it? it would be better if you bought it off gog if you wanted a buy games and lend it to a friend. even better, i'd argue, since you could just copy the installer for your friend and then you can both play it
Juan Flores
>valve ruined pc ecosystem by bringing a service that got rid of searching for game patches on the net and looking for a physucal copy when there was a shortage of them leading to many others doing the same with their own features for customer Sure thing nigger. Go on. Before epics bullshit. >Steam >GOG >Uplay >Origin >Microsoft Store >and many others After Epic bullshit >it's either ebin only or ebin and launcher from publisher/dev Yeah. PC ecosystem is not just a Steam, but many others. Which Sweeney tries to cut off throwing stacks of vbucks money.
Hudson Diaz
I just want revenge against Steam for putting us in this digital hell, and Epic is the one to do it.
GOG has been around for 10 years and done nothing to combat the Steam monopoly, so they can suck a dick for all I care
Michael Cook
>>valve ruined pc ecosystem by bringing a service that got rid of searching for game patches on the net
Oh no, having to do work :(
Poor steam drone probably chipped a nail installing those patches
BZZZZT, no you never manually installed a patch in your life, Steam drone
>and looking for a physucal copy when there was a shortage of them leading to many others doing the same with their own features for customer
??? The fuck are you talking about?
Cooper Clark
>Its all bad! Epic best! China no 1!
I find it hilarious that even in this article, no sales numbers for WWZ has been posted. They just say a million copies were sold, and a quarter was PC. Why not just say pc sold 250k copies? Oh yeah, because that number is total shit. Oh and speaking of, where are those exodus sales numbers?
Hunter Bailey
Fuuuuck, I really wanna play this game but I don't wanna support epic and I'm scared it's gonna die soon, and maybe it's a timed exclusive and will come to steam
Noah Baker
>Steam monopoly >monopoly means the only 1 company on the market controlling everything and not letting anyone to come in on said market How is Steam a monopoly when there are aother digital storefronts as well?
Cooper Reed
Wait is this scam shit finished already or it's still on beta 423334423435346543543564?
Aaron Collins
You've never spent hours and hours going through torrent sites, forums, blogs and download sites looking for a patch only to find out later that it was removed, have you? Also >Reddit spacing
William Richardson
Patches were easily available from the official website or fileplanet, my man
Mason Long
They'll be low adoption sure, as how many headsets could valve get in peoples hands by months end? 100K? max?
Goal is probably a million headsets by years end, a left4dead/hl game in VR thats included and built to the standards of something like the lab or boneworks would help sell headsets.
The biggest factor is price, i doubt the typical gtx1050ti user is going to buy a htc vive priced headset.
But valve might sell headsets to a large chunk of enthusiasts, 100k headsets shipped by june 1st if it includes some big valve games is possible.
Sure its not crazy numbers but i guess gabe is playing the long game here, battle royales are not going to carry the pc market for the next decade, VR might though. Steam unironically has the best VR software right now.
Ryan Sanders
>Have to bring in consoles Switch shitter to prove his point
Justin Brooks
gog is trying to make things better for people like you though. they're getting better, at the very least some pc publishers like paradox are open to release games on the same time for it
physical media was also nearing a worse digital drm hell back then. remember securom? that would've been the future we have, one with two activations only regardless if you had the original game
Ryan Morgan
>oh no having to do the work >oh no they are doing the work for me that means they are BAD! YEAH BOIIIIIIIII FUCK DAT PUSSY BITCH NIGGAS! >what are you talking about You know where the whole preorders bullshit started. Because of said shortage of physical copies. And shortage was even when there were no preorders around. Shortage = you won't get your game to play. Digital distribution removed that problem. And you are the one calling me a young shit. Wow. I'm not gonna bite into your shitty bait anymore. Go suck my dick while I'm allowing you to do so.
Henry Perry
>WWZ would literally be compared to L4D2 or Vermintide 2 if it were on Steam Both Vermintide and L4D2 sold better than WWZ though
Robert Cruz
>I don't like steam therefore I will shill for an even shittier storefront run by even shittier people I hope you're joking or at least being paid
Easton Green
You're inventing problems that never happened with big box PC games you retard lmao, what a terrible post trying to make yourself seem like an oldfag.
Benjamin Martinez
>Valve ruined the PC ecosystem with Steam you fucking youngfag piece of shit. > >Here's how it used to work before Steam Exactly. This is why I prefer GOG. No need for stupid launchers. Just buy, download and play. Easier to backup games too. BTW did anyone ever mentioned how rudimentary Steams game backup feature is? >Storage on CD or DVD >FUCKING CD OR DVD >in 2019 Pic related, fucking hilarious. Valve is a joke
>still replying to the same exact threads with same exact filenames and posts come on people, you know better how many times are you planning on replying to the tayal guy or the guy ranting about the revenue split? their goal is just to provoke and nothing more
Daniel Brown
>I want a patch! I'll get it on fileplanet! t. Someone who never patched, cracked or pirated a game in their life Why dont you go back to whatever cesspool you crawled out of?
Hunter Cook
The fact they feel the need to push the narrative of >Games doing better because of exclusivity Without any evidence or arguments, is clear proof of the opposite. It's clearly not going too well for Epic. They need to get the big bucks with BL3, or they'll probably change their model. The sad thing is that they probably will. Why are consumers so retarded to support stupid exclusivity shit. We already have games separated by entire consoles, we don't need the same bullshit within the same platform.
Hudson Brooks
>I wonder what would happen if I pressed custom...
Ayden Foster
>if necessary you could just choose custom and have it on an HDD, that option is IF you want it on CD or DVD
Camden Sanders
>sales in a vacuum >being a valid metric haha
Liam Ortiz
Why are you acting like finding patches was so hard to do you retard lmao
I remember patching the buggy ass Fallout 2 in 2000. Why couldn't you? Brain disease known as retardation that has followed you since childhood?
Brainlets, have you tried this "feature", like ever? >Backup takes pretty long time >creates files that could only be restored via steam (hello DRM) >restoring takes like an hour per 10gb >literally faster to download >sometimes files could get corrupted >If game is not up to date, you have to verify it, which could take from dozens of minutes to hour It's a fucking joke
Connor Rogers
If this is about library then nobody would have installed battle.net as well. A few very good games count and establish a platform. Steam has no geams
Samuel Richardson
imagine being this dumb
Brody Walker
Sounds like a pretty normal backup procedure to me buddy
Jacob Long
Gosh, I must have imagined Sekiro, DMC5 and RE2 in just one month on Steam, each far better than anything on Epic.
David Gonzalez
downloads depends on your internet speeds of course, and it's a nifty feature for singleplayer games if everything goes right. it's better than nothing at all id say
gog does it better though i agree
Jace Turner
Even if it wasn't spyware giving 40% of the profits to China seems rather dumb if you have any sort of affinity for existence.