Bap! Erectin' a TF2 Thread!
Bap! Erectin' a TF2 Thread!
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party van when?
>Heavy update never
WHY DID HEAVY GET ABANDONED BY VALVE
>Heavy isn't that popular of a character
>Instead of bettering him, abandon him
>TF2 is still popular but losing popularity
>Instead of bettering it, abandon it
I'd say this is how Valve acts now when something needs work, but then you remember
>Ricochet is unpopular, only one map in the whole fucking game
>Abandonment is joked about
>Everyone doesn't see the signs of the future
>Chile Casual servers have been fucking unplayable for almost a week now
>I can't even choose the servers I'm asigned to because that's how shit the matchmaker and the ping limiter are
>Community servers are dead in Argentina
All a guy wants to do is play some fucking TF2, and all I get back is radio silence.
We should have seen the signs, and I understand where you are coming from. But remember, not only did pyro (a class that needed and still needs work) get a fuckhuge update, but they teased the heavy update as well.
Valve is endlessly frustrating.
>there hasn't been a single leak or hint of a leak no matter how important regarding any sort of tf2 update
>the tf2 team is on complete radio silence mode, only blogposts are advertising community events
>not a single new file, console command, anything
I really fucking want it to be true, but it doesn't suffice that they said that the loser of Meat VS Match would get their update later. In valve time, every "later" comes with a "maybe".
> not only did pyro (a class that needed and still needs work) get a fuckhuge update
An update that entirely failed to make him any more useful or fun to play.
>let's give Pyro a shittier jarate and a meme weapon while Heavy gets the best weapon
The only time where he was broken was because they fucked up his flame particles so that having a seizure would result in you netting 5 kills, and even that took them 7 fucking months to adress. Christ, JI was so underwhelming it's disgusting. Even Mercenary Park was and still is a massive pile of rancid manure.
Why is the classic so bad but so fun to use?
You guys like rocketjuming? I never see it being mentionned around here.
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>Guy kills me
>He taunts me
I kind of do like it, but I don't really have the patience for jump maps. I do have mad respect for people who are good at them, though.
Are Brazuca servers stable for you? They work well enough for me.
I think the contributions TF2 has made to the SFM and Gmod community will be enough to keep it around for a while longer.
heavy is a fat peace of shit anyways, who cares about tf2 when you have minecraft
When they couldn't force a CS:GO-esque skin economy into the game it became an official financial loss for Valve.
They do, but I can't select them as my only choice because I get lowest ping on Chile, so it just sends me there, where it warps like a fucking CyberianGames server.
>allowing Valve anywhere near TF2 after MyM and JI's nerfpocalyse
That's gonna be a big NOPE from me, pardner.
>snipe enemy medic
>suddenly my camera goes to 3rd person and my character is laughing
>turn to see a holiday punch heavy about to taunt kill me
>a nearby medic ubers me
>someone spycaps the last point
>the heavy starts a kartotsky kick and me and the medic join
I really don't think this game will ever get old for me
It's nice to hear that you tried,if you want, jump_academy 2 is really beginner friendly (friendlier so than jump_academy 1) since it's got so many jumps, it allows you to progress in smaller but more numerous steps, so you can actually see yourself progressing, I'd recommend giving it a shot sometime.
Some maps like jump_4starters, jump_littleman sometimes get you stuck on the same jump for weeks because of the large difference in difficulty between jumps.
So what’s the deal with weapon skins? Are they a possible drop or some shit?
Yeah, with war paint cases.
And keys for said cases.
Did you open the game in the past 2 years?
I can do pogos and simple wall jumps but can't do syncs, speed shots or high speed strafing. That being said though, I am also replaying a lot of Quake 1 so hopefully some of those rocket jump skills translate back into TF2. Might need to use the Original to ween myself to TF2 physics
Maybe with a Brazilian VPN or something. I haven't played tf2 in a while though. Why don't most online games get an Argie server? We're bigger than Chile and most argentinians with computers probably live in Central/southern Argentina, far from Brazil...
>both Gmod and SFM scenes are practically dead with a handful of ecelebs racking up views while the small creators are left to eat dirt
Oooh it is sad day
Why did it take tf2 players 8 years to start making defrag style maps for soldier?
They fucked it up by not making them single-use items to apply into existing weapons
Syncs are definitely tricky. The whole difficulty with syncs is timing, which is something you can only really acquire after a lot of trial and errors.
For syncs, I would recommend a few things :
1) Start by dropping off a large height, shoot a rocket to sync, and instead of actually syncing, just get used to the timing of when the first rocket you shot hits the ground.
It's also useful to look at the rocket coming down on you as you touch the ground, especially later when you try 3,4 or even 5 rocket syncs.
2) Run the game in slow-mo to get a better sense of when to shoot (when you're on a server you host yourself, the command is host_timescale [number, where 1 = 100% time scale]
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For speedshots, I would recommend :
1) Get a good feeling for how ping affects the delay in your rockets. The more ping, the more you'll have to delay your shots. I know aproximately that lower than 30 ping, I have to shoot before I land on the ground to speedshot, over that, and I'll have to delay a little, but it's very subtle and is something that' you shouldn't rely on too much, it's always better to learn things by feel rather than by cold logic when it comes to those things.
Also speedshots are windows of less than 10 frames most of the time, don't feel bad about not hitting them directly.
As for speed strafing, I can't recommend anything in particular, just pactice, practice, practice.
Maybe you can go on freestyle maps (freestyle_egypt and freestyle_chromatic), because those have launchers that usually launch you at high speeds, since you can set binds to teleport if you use a host server, it can be practical. I would recommend a "sandwich" technique for strafing; so you do one attempt where you do soemthing you consider too much, and one attempt where you strafe too little, and reduce how little or how much you strafe little by little, I know it worked for a lot of people I've taught, hope it helps, keep on trying!
>Kitty died
>Boschitt got scared away from gmod because twitter made him sad
>Rubberfruit was a fucking faggot even though he made the granddaddy of popular gmods
>Lalve does great stuff but more or less suffers from imposter syndrome
>ST is a hack
>Dr. Face took a hiatus and became an extremely gay furfag despite making quality gmods
>Delak is great at what he does but suffers from having real life responsibilities
>GrayCartoonPony is legit good too but is rejected his spot in glory due to MLP association
Those are the ones just off the top of my head.
It may have been like 4 years or something
Thanks for the advice user, will definitely look at those maps.
Is BorMachine still around? His Gmods are pretty "LOL EPIC 2013 12 YEAR OLD HUMOUR" going back to them now but you can still appreciate the effort and editing...
Oh wait here’s another fucking tragedy
>Most of the gmod videos from YouTube antiquity were erased or deleted due to copyrights or E-drama
Eltorro?
Eltorro64rus is slow to upload sometimes but that is understandable with some of the work that he does.
Not to mention finding ways to make Overwatch funny.
>Dr. Face took a hiatus and became an extremely gay furfag despite making quality gmods
He tried to warn us way back in 2011, but we didn't listen
I’m not sure. I believe he’s done one or two things in various recent collabs.
He’s great but doesn’t upload often enough
I think that the jump community has always existed, but for a long time, it's been very in touch with the competitive community, where jumping was only considered to be a single competence of competitive play, so if people wanted to make a jump movie, they'd more often than not make a frag movie featuring nice jumps, rather than a movie based on jumping alone.
The development of beginner friendly resources also greatly helped.
Well, quite a few things changed, you might hate it, you might maybe like it.
If you're considering booting the game up anytime soon, I would recommend installing mastercomfig (7.0 to get the GUI).
Basically due to the era during which TF2/the source engine was made, the game takes most of it's power from the CPU rather than the GPU which is the opposite of current trend.
Mastercomfig basically improves graphics, networking, sound and even some other minor things. Yes I was paid to say this and yes mastercomfig mines bitcoin on your computer.
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yeah eltorro's animations are uncannily smooth and fluid for gmod so his upload infrequency is understandable
That’s pretty cursed. And something I missed when it was new.
He takes pride in his craftsmanship so I can respect that
Glad I could help, and please, if you fail, don't give up!
If you want, tf2rjweekly will host the Beginnings 6 contest in a few months. It happens once a year and it's goal is to showcase the best of the best of the community, jumpers, mappers, editors, and even modders.
Last time, you could win a medal (pic related) if you submitted a time (as a demo) faster than the showcase time of a newly featured map. I think that with the time until the next contest, it's not impossible to think you could participate, it would be a nice goal to reach and to motivate you to go even further and maybe in a few years, get the gold.
Post-2013 Eltorro is soulless though.
There's a level of smoothness and production quality after which a Gmod video stops feeling genuine, and he's already way past that point.
Same with ST and Delak
>play heavy
>get countered by half enemy team
>don't play heavy and won't have this problem
hmmmm
ST is shit because all he’s done the past few vids is steak jokes and end with an RPG battle. Shit gets annoying
>Countered by half the enemy team
Your fault for overextending
Mercenary Park sucks fucking dick. It's like if they made Dustbowl lite
What if heavy had a burst fire weapon that would for example, fire three to five bullets in a row, and for each successive hit, increase damage?
Like you could reward aim both in one hit and tracking while also keeping the high damage output of the heavy by allowing him to shoot multiple targets "at the same time"?
I have thought of this concept again and again and I fail to see where it would fail except in the suppressing fire department, but I think it's a fair trade if you're going to give him higher damage output.
I haven't thought of any "stats" yet, I think it's more important to consider what a weapon brings to a character that he didn't have before rather than directly looking at stats.
What do you guys think, any heavy mains could give me feedback on this?
>12 years have passed and the TFTeam are still complete fucking idiots when it comes to map design
I don't get how.
Unfortunately it would mean jackall if it could counter soldier or demoman. Meaning it’ll be nerfed before it even makes it past the theorycraft
Let's imagine the weapon is allowed into the game, do you think it would actually work, and it could be balanced?
For me, the issues with the heavy are :
>no mobility depth
>no weapon depth
>little gamesense required
(due to a huge health pool and how many save options he has)
I think it passes those except for mobility.
>weapon depth
accuracy is required and rewarded
>gamesense
prediction needed to track your targets better
I don't know man, it just feels right
In theory it sounds like a buffed up pre rework Panic Attack. Which sounds great to use against midrange to somewhat close range targets. How is the bullet spread? Initial damage? Just for sake of argument.
I haven't played tf2 for 10 months, what am i in for?
>engineer main
It certainly resembles the concept, I didn't think of it before!
As for your concerns, I would argue for a rather tight spread but this would definitely go hand in hand with damage falloff, probably harsher so than the default one, but I fear that it would make the weapon feel too loaded with specs.
As for initial damage, I didn't exactly think of it.
I want to give you an answer so I'll whip out the tf2 wiki page for the minigun as to get a good grip of dps/range, I'll definitely try and keep the thread alive until then, it shouldn't take me too long.
never
Absolutely fuck all has changed. It's safe to assume TF2 became abandonware.
I can see it being something like this. An automatic shotgun but like welded into a minigun frame. Or a minigun with a shotgun drum.
Dude it’s been 11 years. TF2 is pretty much complete minus the final comic
Okay so here's what I came up with.
If we want 3 bullets per burst, I would argue for :
0.4 seconds between each bullet (so
Starting bullet does 30 damage, but the second one does 45 and the last one 60, then staying at 60 for every consecutive shot.
Now it does sound weird on paper, but I wonder how it does in practice.
I need to learn c++ to try those.
Thank God.
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Maybe they'll further fix him in the Heavy update. And fucking buff all the weapons they gave him.
the fact that they killed degreaser pyro shows they want pyro to be a braindead shitty meme class, he will never be good.
Mercenary Park is aesthetic.
>the thermal thruster taunt takes so fucking long to start up that you can't even carry it just to give people you kill a killcam of your braps
Find a way to fuck around with the minigun firing speed and how many bullets per round get fired off. Don’t know if it can be done in the dev console
Anyone got that pic of the EYE Divine Cybermancy Pyro loadout?
It’s a great theme fucked up by Valve only having 4 or 5 actual devs working on TF2. Down to 2 if I’m not mistaken.
I honestly wonder how many applications are turned down for the TF2 team
Thats all it got going for it. Actually playing it is awful.
>Be me, new to TF2, trained offline and in casual for a few weeks to try not being too bad once I start played competitive
>Pay for competitive
>Queue for first game
>Win first game
>Win not counted
>Wtf.exe
>Check what's up with that online, turns out if someone leaves the game, the win doesn't count
So, before getting a rank, I need to WIN 10 games, without anyone leaving, and I have to wait 20 minutes before playing everytime I queue up?
I honestly don't know if I want to bother with that game.
I don't see what's wrong with it, seems pretty balanced to me.
I hadn't even considered the possibility that new players would take comp seriously. Ignore that shit completely. If you are interested in playing competitively you should go through 3rd party organizations.
Competitive TF2 is a complete joke that only braindead retards take seriously.
Never under any circumstances take part in it.
>Valve Competitive Mode
Don't. Stick to casual or look for actual competitive stuff. Valve is absolutely dumb making that a thing considering almost all of the playerbase just want to fuck around in good ol pubs
i come from the darkest corners of the badlands to bring you 10 assorted degenerates from the list
be forewarned it ain't pretty
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>ecelebs
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competitive matchmaking is a shitshow
use tf2center or pugchamp if you want to play comp
Optimization, layout full of bad chokepoints, shitty walls/skybox.
Don't play "official" competitive.
Play things like tf2center.
"official" competitive takes too long to wait, has retarded rules (you can't use a good config, no class limits), is full of cheaters etc.
Also the main thing truly is casual/community servers.
>JI's nerfpocalyse
What?
For me it only gets degenerate when someone displays all their expensive shit and the "extra display NOT FOR SALE"
>Trying to play engie with 3 spies around and no spy checking pybro
Hey Yea Forums,
yore
ugleh
is way more open than steel and most people consider that a good map. optimization sure I have a good computer and don't have any fps drops so I wouldn't know.
>play engi
>suddenly the enemy team has a spy that always fucks your shit up
>team doesn't care since they or their medic gfs aren't getting backstabbed
Literally the reason why I hate playing engineer.
USE
THE
SHOTGUN
>Pyro players who still dont extinguish their teammates
>Even when you get health for it or can use the man melter for crits
>try to shoot the spy with the shotgun
>my buildings eat most of the bullets
>he then shoots me with the revolver as I panic trying to kill him as soon as possible
>die
Based ugleh poster.
That's been disproven a dozen times.
TF2 still has a 15-man team.
>that try hard who ruins a kzotsky kick group dance
Fuck you if you do this
check out anthroponiessfm, he will make a fine addition to the list
That's me, I do this
I taunt after too
who either fucking sit around all day or never finish anything they start
why do you enjoy ruining fun
Yeah, but there's still 15 of them.
Hell, maybe they're working on the Heavy update now.
i only do it because the strange flamethrower i have has a extinguished part
spies and scouts still get the schadenfreude.
It's fun to pad my score and it's even more fun to deny you of having any fun yourself
Only I can have fun
>taking pride in being a shitty player and teammate
I can say that I have been a successful DJing in tf2 the whole last month.
I literally made us win games with great curated and timed songs.
Push it to the limit did bring the payload to the end of the road a lot of the time. Sure I got my fair share of kick at first but once you get the general mood people really appreciate you. It is also important to have it just loud enough so people can talk over for team communication.
Probably had 100 friend requests that month that I had to refuse. Will probably do some more Djing this summer
I booted up TF2 to play TF2, not fucking Habbo or Club Penguin. Friendlyshit servers already infest the server browser.
>"NO MY CONGA LINE"
I am a great player and drag my useless team kicking and screaming to victory every time
I've played with some of these fuckers before
There's a difference between a quick dance and spending the whole game being useless.
I don't mind killing Hoovies, but when a dozen people are dancing for a minute, it's just rude to hit them all.
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what software so you use? I was always a fan of djing but I could never get a practical setup, either requiring me to alt-tab every time or something
I knew there was a tf2 miss that allowed you to turn yourself as a radio bot. Other people could use it and people could vote to skip songs iirc. Gotta find the name of that.
i unironically want them to add fornite dances to tf2
I have a setlist of songs for ''waiting'' before the round start and have hype songs for start and fillers for the rest of the round.
Each victory was followed by FF7 victory fanfare and each loss was followed by curb your enthusiasm meme theme and people loved it.
My most requested song by far was probably take me home country road. At the end when I was requested said song I only played the meme short mario version of it.
I also did some live DJing with a soundboard on tracks, people did like it too. All and all it was a great experience and I thought I'd share it with you guys
i appreciate the help partner
but this list is made only of people i've seen in my own games
and to think the list is 2 away from 400 people on it
>pair of kids using voice chat to say dumb shit
>say in my extremely deep voice "Don't use voice chat if you aren't an adult"
>they shut up
How do you feel about little kids using voice chat? Voice chat in general?
>Want to get better with the direct hit
>Cant kill crowds of people in corridors/rooms anymore without having to actually aim
What do you use for Mic spam? And does it work in valve servers?
"Aw man I can't believe I have to aim in a fucking FPS"
hud_saytext_time 0
voice_enable 0
unbind y
unbind u
I do music on my personal spare time so I have a bit of gear (quality mic + external soundcard)
Basically I was playing shit from my phone into a small amp that my mic was close on and the quality is excellent. After that you just need a simple script for voice toggle so you can play while the voice chat stay on.
Funnily sometimes, people kicked people that try to kick me at first. Thats how much people liked it.
>a dozen people are dancing
>it's just rude to hit them all.
Some of us are trying to play the fucking game
Piss off to hightower
>pyro with a unusual
Voice chats are usually the best source of laughs.
I almost never say anything, but giving people chances of being idiots is always fun.
What genres work best? Meme songs? Retro shit? Rock?
I'm fine with it as long as they aren't annoying.
It was leaked that there is 15 ppl still on the TF team
I used to use loch n load until they ruined it
it's a bit of everything, but people like the meme shorts most of the time
you can check my playlists to get an idea (not everything worked though keep that in mind)
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>got a cheap macaw masked warpaint
>tfw 90% of the paint is darkish green, no reds or blues
Who here played Parkour Fortress, back when it was a thing? It was by far the most fun TF2 mod for me, so chill, tight and engaging. I adore the music used for it, too:
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>a guy who worked on Parkour Fortress went on to develop A Hat in Time
>Always turn them off
>Play with friends that always turn them on
>Sometimes I get the occasional message relayed to me about what's going on in voice chat
My favorite is the time someone was bitching about me as "Oh shit it's that guy who spams chat at the end of every match," but I only found out second-hand after the fact. It's salt like that what makes spamming binds at the end of every single match worthwhile.
I would also add that time of the time have just as much impact as the songs you play.
You could play shitty lo-fi all nights and people would appreciate it. But during peak time you need to put peak performance or you would get kicked ASAP.
If you start DJing, dont let kicks get to you. View it as experience and learning what work and was doesn't and WHEN.
>get Special Delivery for the first time in ages
>want to play a few rounds, since it's so rare
>game ends and people vote for fucking 2Fort Invasion
Valve really hates commitments. They love keeping everyone in the dark, that way, when people get pissed, Valve can say they never promised us anything, or hell, they cant just say nothing.
>2fort invasion isn't listed under ctf
I know why they did it I just think it's fucking stupid.
WHEN I SAY PYRO WATCH MY STUFF FOR SPIES REAL QUICK ALL YOU HAVE TO FUCKING DO IS WINDMILL NEXT TO MY DISPENSER FOR 5 SECONDS AND NOTHING MORE
That and fucking Probed. Why are they misc? Because of fucking aliens?
Are we posting screenshots now?
Yeah, they were added at the same time as the other alien maps that are actually miscellaneous maps, so same patch means same map category because Valve.
I feel like its the higher standards these days. Way back then, everyone was making silly 5 -15 second stopmotion shorts in gmod. Then, some really good animators started raising the bar, and when SFM came out, the bar was risen even higher. Since SFM is a clusterfuck to use, and few people have the patience to work with it and compete with the big names that have mastered SFM, the scene isn't so big these days.
>all of those stock reskins that don't work for spy and engi for whatever reason
>then the prinny knife proves that spy/engi can have stock reskins too
Why haven't the rest of the reskins been given to spy/engi?
Exclusive golden pan club
>mfw aussi knife on tour 7, stopped at start of tour 11 forever
>mfw unusual screaming tiger conga line taunt in the same week
to be fair I think I dumped 100$ or so on my tf2 comeback. I feel less bad knowing I will be able to sell those shits for just as much and maybe a bit more. Still, its stuck in steam currency at the end of the day.
Who are the most autistic faggots in TF2 and why are they Spy, Sniper, and Pyro mains?
But like I said the prinny knife works for all classes, so the "exclusiveness" of the golden pan has already been ruined.
I literally never see any spies or engies use stock reskins to begin with not only cause theres so few but because most spies dont use stock knife
What a mess.
Those two need to be moved to their proper categories.
And the Halloween PD maps need reskins. And they need to add some community Medieval and SD maps. Then make PD, SD, Medieval, and Arena their own categories. And throw Standin with Hydro and Snowplow for a Misc CP group.
its a shame that it was broken for what felt like half of it's existence. it was always a fun time though
Anyone want to play with me? I usually queue casual for everything but CTF
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Also I'm trying to get the achivements for the ubersasw so i'll probably uber you a few times
Mastercomfig actually made my game run worse and removed ragdolls and other good shit