Who deserves to be cut from the next game? I really think they should cut even more characters than this so that they can work on balancing the game even more. 20-30 balanced characters who are mostly all tournament-viable would be perfect to me.
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Ridley should definitely be on the chopping block.
Nobody will ever be cut after this game, who the fuck would buy the next Smash if it had cuts?
>cutting off Ridley
Literally why?
Both Brawl and Smash 4 did
and they were both shit games, ultimate/melee/64 are the only good smash games
Joker. The most cucked pick of all time even moreso than Snake and Cloud, plus his moveset is boring and uninspired
>makes a retarded thread about cutting
>doesn't even cut corrin
next level degeneracy holy shit
And that's because of the roster cuts in your opinion?
I did this quickly and probably would cut a dozen more. Corrin has a fun and unique moveset in my opinion though, she just sucks because the game is poorly balanced because the roster is too bloated, which is the point of the thread.
>generic anime swordsman #287
>fun and unique
>Who deserves to be cut from the next game?
Soccer guy himself.
>gets to take a break
>no more bias
All of her moves are completely different than Marths lol. Have you ever played her?
>her
alot of stuff is worse then how it was on melee, the roster cuts is just a coincidence
Still boring
Still crap
Still garbage
Everyone in the Smash community unanimously hates Corrin and wouldn't miss them if they got cut.
>no argument
Pretty sure Armada mained Corrin, who was OP in the last game. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Also one of the least boring characters in Smash 4.
>crap
>garbage
Nice buzzwords
>Cut
Roy, Lucina, Chrom, Corrin
Dark Pit
Richter
Shillmons Lucario to Incinieror just for the sake of introducing new Pokemons to fulfill their place
Bayonetta if 3 is truly vaporware
Young Link
Cloud
Joker
Ken, turn into an alt skin
Richter, turn into an alt skin
For the remaining first party echoes, give them unique movesets or make them semiclones. Get new third parties to replace the cut ones. Decolinfy the semi-clones like Ganon, Toon Link, Lucas, and Isabelle.
add some newcomers and this is the perfect roster
Nobody likes Corrin except for dumb waifufags. Even the people who mained Corrin back in 4 dropped the character in Ultimate because they realized it's a garbage character. NO ONE would miss Corrin, literally the first character on everyone chopping block.
> Little Mac
> Duck Hunt
> Sonic
> Ridley
Fuck off
Lucas would probably be cut again which is a shame, he's a lot of fun. I don't see Bowser Jr making the cut either. Clones will stay because they're easy.
>cutting Sonic and Ridley Uhhhh what
If you support any smash 4 character except for bowser jr staying you are an absolute penis in mouth homosexual and deserve the death penalty
Corrin and Robin are the only two unique FE characters. They should drop either Marth or Lucina, and either Roy or Chrom.
>Cutting Echoes and Miis
You're already stupid before we get to any actual real characters.
Shut the fuck up you dumb shota furfag degenerate.
corrin and robin are poorly designed characters that only encourage not approaching they should be the first to go
Literally every Fire Emblem character except Robin, all of them have completely made up generic movesets that don't reflect their home series except for him and Fire Emblem is blatantly overrepresented anyway
Literally the stupidest shit I've ever seen.
>Marth is gone
>Lucina and Ike are still there
Based and...
>But Corrin is still there
... bluepilled.
No one you fucking cutfag
Nobody. If Smash goes backwards and the next game has LESS characters I'll just play Ultimate.
Characters have different ranges and playstyles, that's good. Zoners and defensive spacing characters should still exist.
People only dropped her in Ultimate because the game isn't balanced well and she's low-mid tier. Her moveset is still fun
Oh yeah man he does such cool things with his dragon powers
>down b transforms into a dragon and counters
WOOOOOAH
No.
Seeing how Nintendo have just started phasing out miis, they may have to cut them if the next console doesn't feature them at all.
>wanting a childrens party fighting game to have tourney viable characters
I take it you like Castlevania at least
CUT CHADS WW@
Next game we will harvest a lot of salt
>Cutting Ridley.
Eat a hundred dicks covered in dog shit.
>Killing off Game and Watch
You’re literally Thanos and not a good kind of Thanos
Why not just keep all the unique fighters though? The marth clones need to be cut more than anything. Roy, Chrom and Lucina have zero reason for existing. I give zero fucks about the FE series as a whole, but those are worth keeping for the sake of variety.
>Even the people who mained Corrin back in 4 dropped the character in Ultimate because they realized it's a garbage character.
No, it's because Corrin is straight up bad in Ultimate.
As she should be
Who would be unbiased and competent enough to produce the next Smash title? It better be a functioning white person
Do you think there's a chance Nintendo will ever release two Smash entries on a single system? Say for example the switch ends up getting soft hardware revisions like dsi/new 3ds. They said switch will be around for a long time so it's not impossible. Will they just keep adding characters to ultimate?
Memes aside, this is the ONLY true cut that needs to happen.
Cut
> Dark Samus
> Daisy
> Lucina
> Chrom
> Meta Knight
> Pit
> Dark Pit
> ZSS
> Wario
> Snake
> Ike
> Pokemon Trainer
> Diddy Kong
> Lucas
> Sonic
> Dedede
> Olimar
> Lucario
> ROB
> Toon Link
> Wolf
> Villiager
> Mega Man
> WFT
> Rosalina
> Little Mac
> Greninja
> Palutena
> Pacman
> Robin
> Shulk
> Bowser Jr.
> Duck Hunt
> Ryu and Ken
> Cloud
> Corrin
> Bayonetta
> Miis
> Inkling
> Ridley
> Simon and Ritcher
> K.Rool
> Shill dog
> Baracat
I wouldn't expect much to be cut down unless the next game goes into a radically different direction. Otherwise you can still expect most everyone to return except maybe some semi-clones, third party characters, and characters at the bottom of a totem pole we can only guess at the logic used to organize.
There's also no real reason to cut echoes. At the very least, Daisy, Dark Samus, and Richter have absolute no work put into gameplay differences. So if their counterparts returned, they would as well.
Smash is the only fanbase that gets hyped up over having content REMOVED.
some of the FE characters IMO, keep the originals, (Marth and Roy, maybe Robin) , but cut Corrin, Ike,Lucina and Chrom
>balance around tournament viability
You're fucking fired. Theres more than one way to play
Really, even Wario. Kys
>keep the originals (Marth AND Roy)
>Cut two of the ones with unique movesets
Why would you ever cut something like Ridley?
Hopefully: no one
Realistically: everyone
No one cares about yellow Mario.
It's why Ultimate is missing many modes like Homerun Contest.
>Mario+
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
>DK+
Diddy
Krool
>Link+
Ganondorf
Zelda
>Pikachu+
Mewtwo
PKMN trianer (Charizard, Greninja and Lucario)
NEW newgen shillmon
>Kirby+
Meta Knight
DDD
>Marth+
Robin
NEW newest FEcunt
>Samus+
Ridley
>Inkling+
NEW Octoling
>Shulk+
NEW new xeno mc
>Villager+
Isabelle
>Pit+
Palutena
>Ness
>Fox
>Cpt.Falcon
>Yoshi
>Wario
>Olimar
Plus whatever 3rd party offers an okay deal to comeback, so squarenix and their pricy Cloud are out
You can't remove bias but I am sick to death of Mr. Hardest Working Man In the Industry, who would have to be a grossly incompetent and inefficient worker to actually earn that moniker given what he has available to him. He is, like many Japanese workers, obsessed with appearing busy.
Obviously the best would be to keep all the characters buuuuuuut I wouldn't care if they cut these characters.
He came to work with an IV drip rather than call in sick.
Bringing everyone back was a mistake, we lost a ton of content from previous games like trophies, home-run contest, break the targets, masterpieces, event mode etc..
It's sad that this is the best selling Smash game, Sakurai will most likely never add these cut content in the next game
The only characters that should be cut are clones that can be implemented as alternative costumes that have to be unlocked.
>would rather have an incredibly shallow DYKG wiki than real game content
> DYKG
retard
Why? That’s so pointless, you can already change the clones into sharing a spot on the css.
Why the fuck are some of you looking to cut Lucario and not Greninja? Furfaggery aside the former has a far more interesting mechanic.
i'm uncomfortable playing as lucario
While i agree that Wario has a bad moveset in Smash since lacks more Land moves, i disagree that he should be removed. He has own fanbase, he had his own games as the protagonist and appeared in the spin-offs and is a rival to Mario, so he's important.
All these faggots that want to cut Dark Samus.
Echoes were a mistake.
>masterpieces
Demos so short that you can't finish a single F-Zero lap. There was a reason this was always one of the first things people mentioned when discussing things they want gone.
The game or the term?
Really? Discard my comment then, I haven't played Ultimate.
>While i agree that Wario has a bad moveset in Smash since lacks more Land moves
You're an even bigger brainlet than the ones you're replying to.
If someone says Ridley, they're baiting you. Ignore it. Now enjoy the rest of this shit storm.
>wanting to cut anyone after this game
>giving a fuck about gay tournament shit
Were you not around for his returning reveal during Smash 4? People are that salty about furfags.
No you are, cuttingfag.
>retards who haven't played the game think they have any fucking input and want content removed
Greninja is top tier and lucario sucks
The only characters with a risk of being cut are 3rd parties, anyone saying anyone else is retarded.
every fire emblem character can go. nobody other than a few gacha whales would miss them.
young link and toon link also need to go, and sheik can be rolled back into zelda's moveset.
dr. mario should also get cut, and the miis will be well past their relevance.
the rest can stay.
Term, if she does get cut, her inclusion was just pointless to begin with because she could have turned out to be a cooler fighter than Ridley. I like Ridley, but DS was always a more prominent villain that actually did shit. Ridley's inclusion in most games is just pure fan-service. I understand echoes were last minute additions to get other popular characters in, but I don't trust them to declone anybody with how they treated characters like Ganon for so long.
Why are cutfags so obsessed with losing characters? Enjoy the moment, damn.
>DS was always a more prominent villain that did shit
You can’t be serious.
“I don’t like Fire Emblem so nobody else should be allowed to enjoy them either”
But balance changes from game to game (ie Kirby or Pichu). Tier placement shouldn't have any bearing on who gets cut as opposed to interesting mechanics.
>keeping Roy
>Mainline villain for the entire Prime trilogy
>Ridley is just a single boss in all of them with the only notable thing he ever did is steal the Metroid in Super
Sure, he killed Samus's parents, but can you say he's done much in the actual games? You sound like a fucking secondary.
Fire emblem has too many characters, but it's not like I want to lose content. Cutfags, I swear.
Don't you have any other threads to stink up smeleefag?
cute all FE characters except Marth
remove all shillmons (so basically everyone except PT and Pikachu)
remove all third parties except snake and simon/richter
Red ones cut, green ones need a rework
>sniiiiiiffff
Take a shower, stinky.
Cut Incineroar, replace with Mimikyu, Lycanroc-Dusk or Decidueye.
seething smeleefag detected.
i'm surprised you didn't suggest cutting everything besides fox and jigglypuff since those are the only characters you guys care about.
Wario needs a rework, he needs more moves from his games.
cope.
Based.
incineroar is gonna get cut tho
Do you really like Mii characters? I feel like they just look so fucking tacky
>captain falcon
>cut
Not happening, he's more of a smash character than an f-zero character at this point.
op needs to be removed from existing
>incineroar is fake
>incineroar will be irrelevant because decidueye will be the next greninja
>incineroar will be fire/fighting
>incineroar is "basically" fire/fighting!
>incineroar will never get into smash
>incineroar will be low tier in smash
>incineroar will get nerfed in smash
>incineroar will get cut from the next smash (YOU ARE HERE)
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 8
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 9
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 10... r-right?
people always talking about owls
Incineroarfags are a sensitive bunch. Almost at a FEfag level.
Cut Bayonetta
Put Banjo instead
I could cut 30 characters from this easy and not even care. There are still characters in Ultimate that I haven't played even once.
Literally what is wrong with Wario?
His moveset is great and encapsulates every iteration of Wario.
It's also why Ultimate only has 3 stages, a shitty storymode, no boss rush, no new gamemodes for multiplayer, and a bunch of other issues with it.
None, there's something about a huge fucking roster that appeals to me.
>ITT: what characters do you personally dislike?
this is actually the best one i've seen so far, just get rid of Palutena and Pit and keep Dark Samus it's perfect
True, I'll fix it
They provide some satisfying ways of creating characters that Sakurai would never add in smash, so in a sense they aren't too bad, but sword needs rework
I just don't feel like he shouldnt be kept around any longer
>dark pit reworked but dark samus should be cut
I can smell the estrogen from this post.
Joker
Pichu
Young Link
Dr. Mario
Plant
Incineroar
Adding to this, Piranha Plant and Joker don't stay
Every interaction?. You should play Shake IT and Master of Disguise.
>Cut Ike but keep Roy
Why? His moveset more is unique than Roy's and had 2 of his own games
*Interation
>Take out Ike but leave Roy
Don't think you're slick, Royfag
Are you kidding me?
Those two are the worst Wario platformers ever made.
At this point? All the third parties can go in my opinion, plus we don't need more than 1 link or mario, daisy can go, as well as a couple pokemon like incineroar, lucario, and greninja.
I can understand disguise, but why shake it?
>red
cut
>green
reworked/decloned
Reminder that Toon Link is visualy unique and now that we have BOTW link his moveset is different enought
You fucking assholes have warped my brain. I immediately looked to see which FE characters you cut, noticed it was none, then realized what I was supposed to see.
>Gamefreak's Lightning
>Mario's Lightning
>Animal Crossing's Lightning
>All cut
None of that will be happening and you know it.
BOTW Link will most likely be replaced by the next Link by then
remove isabelle and it's perfect
Lacks his other equipment such as the leaf, hammer and etc.
Aside from some levels at the beginning and at the end, the rest of the game is bland and uninspired, with boring mechanics and dull gameplay.
And the bosses, holy hell. Design wise they are horrible, but even worse the battles are tedious. Maybe the racing one and King Shake are ok, but the clown, the fucking potted plant and the retarded bird into the frying pan? Wow, so much fun, as much as crushing my balls in a vicegrip.
The only good part about this game are the animations and charm, besides that the gameplay is heavily dumbed down compared to previous Wario Land games.
Personally they should cut Mario and replace him with Zombie Mario. It would be a crazy and unexpected decision that would have everyone talking.
>Krool
This.
Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.
Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.
>inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt
Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits about literal who the gator
I wish we could get a Link that didn't revolve around projectiles. I'm sure there's some good enough shit from Toon Link's/Young Link's games to accomplish that.
Toon link is designed like shit and is mostly identical to link. He should get replaced with an actually unique Zelda character.
Fuck off Ashleyfag
i didn't even know who ashley was until you faggots started shit flinging that i was one to deflect from you having shit taste. kill yourself.
Are Antifags still butthurt? Even if he's eventually cut he got in at least once. I'd like him to keep returning and be a staple of the series like Bowser, but I know the possibility he'll be gone next game is there. I'm happy we got our chance. I don't agree with people thinking he's trash but that just means they'll underestimate him. And probably still win since I'm not some insane god of Smash.
>cutting echoes when they take no time
Retard
COPE
cope with having shit taste
who did you want then?
Rent fucking free
I'm not that user but are you seriously going to treat every anti-rool shitposter as an Ashleyfag?
>cutting Marth but keeping Lucina
>cutting Robin but keeping Corrin
Trash-ass taste
anyone else but that disgusting gator faggot
cope harder faggot
Kill yourself Ashleytard
cope harder with having shit taste faggot
STINKY DAY STINKY DAY STINKY DAY STINKY DAY
You first you double nigger.
This thread has turned into a warzone.
> Wanting shitty character NPC character only liked by pedos
Fucking pathetic, neck yourself.
>Cutting Ridley and DS but not ZSS
>Cutting Incineroar but keeping Pichu aka "Pikachu, but harder to balance"
>Keeping both Roy and Ike
>Keeping K.Rool
Tipper mechanic is lame now and Robin will never be the best projectile character.
Roy holds more relevance than Ike as it was the start of Fire Emblem without Kaga, Ike's games didn't sell well and are hardly significant, that was my reasoning
i would want them to cut just one fe char or young link, moreso the former (cuz yl is basically smaller preultimate link), but i suspect some third parties will be cut like cloud or snake again if it were sakurai's decision
Don't you have a phone to call you autistic loser?
k rool is fun though so he's fine
Not a Shadow fag,just used that pic because it had Trashley in the trash, because that's where she belongs
Your shitty waifu will never be in, kill yourself
Ridley and his bro K Rool both stay, dammit.
Roy's game was not localized, Ike was.
Two can play that game retard
Cry more faggot
Imagine getting triggered over a little girl.
>Scraping an already existing character for an another irrevelant one.
Incineroar is the only gen 7 rep, Pokemon will ever get in Smash, with maybe a Buzzwhole echo if you're lucky.
>Dark Samus
>Daisy
>Doctor Mario
>Pichu
>Lucina
>Young Link
>Chrom
>Dark Pit
>Diddy Cunt
>Wii Fit
>Greninja
>Robin
>Corrin
>Simon/Richter, whichever
>Incineroar
>All the Miis
Fixed your list for you, OP.
Anyone that wants to cut Lucas or Ness is doing it simply out of fear of PK fire. Git gud, fags. Literally all it takes to beat PK fire spam is pressing jump.
K Rool should have never been in it in the first place. He is literal trash tier irrelevant nigger character that only autists care about. kys
>cutting pac-man
>destroying the k rool and ridley brotherhood
cutfaggotry is autistic as shit anyways, let's enjoy what we have now
There's no way to make a game with a signicant number of characters, a significant variety between them, and have them all be considered the best choice to compete. There will always be a top 10-30% of characters that dominate tournaments. And even if you could, why would you rather have a roster of 20 strong tournament characters instead of a roster of 70, 20 of whom are strong in tournament? That's commie think.
Imagine wanting such a shitty character in Smash, filthy pedo
>Cutting Pac, G&W, Sonic, Mac, Ridley
>Keeping ((((((Roy)))))
Explain your faggotry OP
seething
i could take or leave shulk
if this was the entire roster + a couple newcomers with the old roster overhauled design wise I'd be perfectly happy
although I guess thatd mean 20+ newcomers since theyd all be redesigned
All echos
>WHO WOULD BUY THOSE GAMES
>People bought them
>WELL THEY WERE SHIT!!!!
lmaoing and loling with a side of rofling
Why should I be seething? I got K.Rool
Another Trashley fan.
keep coping retard
>muh trashley
no one gives a shit about your shit gator character from when you were beaten and abused in your basement as a kid, face facts
Clearly you since Ashley has been living in your head rent free for all these months.
Keep crying bitch
If, K.Rool can stay because he's fun, then let my cat stay and make pichu a Pikachu's alt, dawn it !!!
>cutting characters
fuck off, fags
Everyone does, while Trashley gets killed just like you.
irrelevant green turd
cope
All clones is the obvious answer. It'd be silly to cut someone with a unique moveset.
at least trashley is from an actual mario game, not some shitty spin-off villain that got forgotten a week later
not that i would want anything to be cut, but bc sakurai said that we may never get something like this again, its inevitable that a good chunk of chars are gonna get the boot
Tell me, why do you want her in Smash?
>cutfags
>Tipper mechanic is lame now
So fix it
>Robin will never be the best projectile character.
Why not? Why not change his kit so he is? Or so that he's not even in that niche?
This is a new game we're talking about
If they're just gonna put out the same game again then why in the world would they make cuts?
I think she would make an interesting and unique fighter and I like the WarioWare series. Nothing complicated about it.
Actual mario game.
>Not sure if speaking of Incineroar or K.Rool
From the cut list there, I'd say
>keep Marth, Pokemon Trainer, Little Mac, Lucas, Sonic, Pac-Man, Robin, Miis
>cut Falco, Lucina, Roy, Cloud, Shulk and Bayo
Be specific, come up with a moveset
Fuck, was Everyone is Here satisfying after so much cutfaggotry.
>being so lame and pathetic that you wasted your time making such a lame picture
LoZ games are about using a variety of tools to overcome challenges. Taking away his projectiles makes him not Link anymore.
>punch
>kick
>waggle wand
thats all i can think of
Seething
I'm not big on DKC even if I loved DKC2. I want Rool to stay because despite how often Ridley was debated Roolbros were always supporting his inclusion. All I ever wanted was Ridley and after he happened I wanted Rool to be next. H
Them both getting in at the same time was fantastic.
There already exists tons of moveset ideas thrown around. Stuff like pic related are just one example of them.
Fuck off, your shitty character will never be in
> NPC
> Not in important within the series canon
> Shitty fanbase
FUCK OFF
What's the point? If they can give Pirahna Plant a moveset, they can give anyone one.
See Kill yourself for supporting a shit character, people like you are the reason why Wars doesn't have shit for representation anymore
>Cut all the echos (Star Fox reps and the links included ) and make them alt or DLC costums
>Cut Cloud because SE is a bitch about FF rights
This is objectively the only correct thing to do.
fuck off, banjo-kazoomer. k.rool is more relevant than your fursuit bear will ever be.
>GRR GIVE ME A MOVESET
>sure here's one
>NO NO NO NO FUCK YOU REEEEEE
Don't know what I was expecting from a sperg like you.
>Not in important within the series canon
Ever since she debuted she appeared in every wario ware game and even got some of her own mini games where you play as her.
Stay mad tranny, the loli’s getting in eventually.
Which is not something someone in his pivotal position should have been doing. Just like how injuring his hand was an easily avoidable accident if he wasn't an obsessive control freak who only relented on letting others help with balancing for Ultimate.
Not all the tools in the Zelda games are projectiles though. Skull hammer is not a projectile. Give him different tools that the other links aren't already using.
> Posts weebshit
Of course
Maybe reddit is more your speed :^)
You can remove her from the series and nothing will chance, she does shit but host some mini-game
There won’t be any cuts in future Smash games unless there is issues getting certain third party characters back.
>stop posting anime content on this anime discussion board!
Ashley will never be in :)
>waaaah this character uses a sword
Haha yeah guys we should cut metaknight and link
>nothing will chance
Stay mad little baby :)
I just don't want to think about the possibility of my favorite characters getting cut
The only ones that need to be cut are the echo fighters with only a few exceptions
You literally cannot argue with this
I got K.Rool retard, you're the one who are mad your shitty loli isn't in and never will.
Keep being in denial
>thinking that's a banjofag
>thinking that the rareware alliance doesn't exist
Then just keep the creator within Smash. Removing custom characters would be stupid.
kys, no one knows who that slimy butt faggot aligator is
Like it or not, this is the perfect roster with the optimal amount of cuts that would still make people happy.
>cutting Pichu
>cutting Marth over Lucina
>not cutting Chrom
>not cutting Lucario
>cutting Young Link over Toon Link
And yet you still shitpost in here in anger, meaning you clearly are coping with something that angered you. So what angered you redditor?
Long time picks that didn't get in until Ult, like Ridley and K rool, are safe for life.
Gimmick/joke characters like Wii Fit and Plant are sort of one way or the other, who knows.
Classic (retro, e.g. G&W) characters are probably all safe.
First party characters that were cut from Brawl to Smash 4, and several from Melee like Roy and Mewtwo, are probably safe for life.
3rd parties are all inherently fairly unsafe, some moreso than others. Bayo and Sonic are probably safest.
Outlandish characters like Corrin who aren't very iconic are the truly unsafe ones.
>literally headlined a fucking newspaper due to his announcement
>nobody knows who he is
listen, discordfag, the gig is up. we all know what you're doing here.
>bandana dee
fuck off
>Bandana Dee
Haven't you learned your lesson?
What does making a character a costume instead of an echo actually achieve? All you're left with is a character that has weird, unfitting animations for some of their movements.
I sure as fuck bet out of 100 people asked more will know fucking duck hunt than literal who gator.
oh wait fuck nevermind I forgot the retro picks.
The beating heart of value in this series is its large roster. There's a handful of antiquated protragonists and side-characters that I think can be rotated out (along with pruning some clones, so considering both, like Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Dark Samus, Chrom, Roy, Corrin, Sheik, Jiggs, etc.) but otherwise scorch-earthing 2/3rds the roster would be a disaster
There's several I'd like to see be heavily rebuilt though
>Kirby
>Ganondorf
>Samus
>Sonic
>Wario
>Rosalina
>etc.
> Ashley
Mona or bust
You can stop samefagging and just reply to me, what you're doing is just embarassing and makes you look like a try-hard.
You only want her in because you want to see her naked you sick fuck, kill yourself.
Why are you so upset?
What made you so angry? :)
>Cutting MARTH of all fe characters
what the fuck.
I love Wolf and Incineroar and they are likely to get cut.
I learned from Smash 4 already, won't be buying the game if they cut my mains
Only reason i think 4 is shit is because it never felt right to play anyone who wasn't wolf
>ashley
syrup is obviously the better wario rep, pedo
>cutting the miis
FAAAAAAG!
>What does making a character a costume instead of an echo actually achieve?
Placebo effect. Literally.
Echoes are just much more deserving of getting cut, than actual characters, especially if they are newcomers.
half-reroll the pokemon cast please
give me my boy
Perfect
Holy fuck not even "everyone is here" can satisfy you retarded fucks. I sincerely hope the next game cuts all the fan favorites and the gameplay becomes as terrible as Brawl, you ungrateful faggots.
>keeps k rool
wrong
Green become alt costumes, or at least color palettes.
>talk about trimming the roster fat
>when by far the biggest waste of time is the pure stage bloat
they could hard-cap the count at 60 (even that's excessive) in future installments with no detriment to the games value . There's so much thematic redundancy and NO ONE likes stage bosses, scrollers, excessive stage hazards
>phendranna drifts
>grassland groove
>krazy kremland
>studiopolis zone
>bowser's castle
>death mountain
>clock town
>pokemon world tournament
>sky pillar
>ultra space
>queen sectonia dreamstalk
too much potential
post more
>add in a bunch of garbage characters
>waaah why aren't you satisfied!
And for the record, brawl's gameplay is perfectly fine
>we still have no bowser castle stage
Who's Gamefreak's Lightning?
Greninja?
Lucario
>"I kept Corrin because she's fun and unique"
>keeps Pichu, Roy, and Young Link
>cuts Pokemon Trainer, Sonic, Little Mac
>Cloud out of anyone staying
This is an awful roster, beyond awful
>ctrl+F Corrin
>20
>tfw only character I actually like in smash and one of my favorite characters in vidya.
I really don't understand cutfags in the slightest.
>so eager to shill his pasta that he didn't notice that both anons he replied to opted to keep K. Rool
big laff
Anyway, out of ultimate's newcomers alone:
>Inkling
The hardest lock of the bunch, nothing else to say.
>Ridley
There's no way he's getting cut. Fan favorite, highly important to his home series, Sakurai's favorite newcomer to work on according to some interview. I'd sooner expect a ZSS cut, and as much as she deserves to be, I don't see that ever happening.
>Daisy
No real reason to ditch her unless they do away with echoes altogether. Take her or leave her personally, but she'll probably stick around. A major roster trim would almost certainly boot her out though.
>Simon
3rd parties are always iffy, and with Konami doubly so, but I think he's probably safe.
>Richter
See Daisy and Simon
>Chrom
Partially see Daisy, but I think if they were going to cut one echo it'd be him. Don't think they will, he's so low-effort. And we all know about Sakurai's relation with FE.
>Dark Samus
See Daisy.
>K. Rool
Even if he wasn't a guarantee for the next DKC (he is), they'd be nuts to cut him. The public had an overwhelmingly positive reaction to him. Still, I wouldn't say he's a 100% lock, more of a 90%.
>Isabelle
She's not going anywhere, as badly as Yea Forums wants her to. Too damn popular, and you know she's sticking around in AC. Might be made more distinct via moveset tweak.
>Ken
If one echo was going to stay, it'd be Ken. Sakurai made a big deal out of getting him, and for good reason; behind Luigi, he's probably the most iconic P2 in all of vidya. Still, 3rd party, you never know.
>Cat
If they cut a pokemon, it's going to be him or pichu. The others all have much more starpower, and that's an objective fact. Up in the air, but probably staying.
>Plant
I actually like plant, but it's probably on the chopping block. Doesn't need to be in as badly as the others. 30%ish chance of coming back next time.
>Joker
Sakurai loves persona, so maybe.
didn't necessarily mean i supported their actual posts rather i just pointed one character to start my point, gator loving fag
>brawl’s gameplay is perfectly fine
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>one of my favorite characters in vidya
Why though?
inb4 foot subhuman
Rate my Smash 6 roster, faggots
I appreciate you. When're you making the next K. Rool thread? It's been a couple of days.
>adding in Sylux and Louie when the roster is cutting chopped
>replacing PT with Charizard
>Isaac despite the series being dead
>not proper new retro or 3rd party pick
>Waluigi
3/10, honestly
Go die in a fire
Fuck off relevancyfag
Pros:
>Waluigi
>Four DK reps
>Tom Nook
>New original Metroid rep
>New Kirby character that's an actual villain
Cons:
>No major third parties like Sonic, Pac-Man or Mega.
>New Zelda rep is a member of the Triforce again
>Literal who Fire Emblem rep
>Generic "put Pokemon here" slot
>No Porky
>Pearl and Marina as seperate characters over Inkling or even Squid Sisters, have no moveset potential, even less on their own
>Isaac
>Three AC reps that probably all take moves from one another
>Wolf is gone
>Palutena is gone
>Lucario is still here over Greninja
>Squirtle and Ivysaur are gone again, taking out the most unique character in Smash
4/10.
>cutting all the unique and interesting characters
>keeping all the anime swordsmen
Unironically kys
Kill:
- Chrom (pointless)
- Snake (not in tune with fighting mechanics)
- Wolf (pointless)
- Rosalina and Luma (bloat)
- Robin and Corrin (uninteresting)
- Incineroar (crap)
- Mii fighters (fuck customisation - get the fighters right on design).
>20-30 balanced characters who are mostly all tournament-viable would be perfect to me
play melee then.
>CUT
Jigglypuff
Sheik
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Young Link
Roy/Chrom
ZSS
Ike
Corrin
>DECLONE
Dark Samus
Ganondorf
Toon Link
>REVAMP
Samus
Luigi
Wario
>Getting rid of Wolf and not Falco
>Wanting to get rid of MechaHitler, Sword Hitler and Gun Hitler
>Getting rid of the most unique FE character but keeping all the bland copies except for Chrom
You're right that smash 4 and brawl were bad but it wasn't because they didn't have roy and pichu.
Replace Toon Link with Young Link.
Replace Ike with Roy
Kill Robin
Who the fuck is Sylux?
Nope, bring back Pokemon Trainer
Get rid of Louie (Olimar/Alph is perfect as is)
Bring back Inkling - no lolicon fap fantasies please.
Marx is better as a boss.
>New Zelda rep is a member of the Triforce again
I don't get this complaint. Nobody else is significant enough to add. I think some of the wackier characters like Skullkid or even Kass for a music moveset would be fun but pretty much everyone who ISN'T a triforce holder in Zelda is fluff.
He's a vidya protag that's a complete softie that doesn't actually want to hurt anyone and is super sheltered and naive. I really like that sort of character especially with the tragic vibes and theme of having to make massive decisions in really tough and unclear circumstances. Design wise I find the sort of awkward autistic look extremely relatable. Kirin are my favorite mythical creatures and conceptually dragon princess jesus with a chainsword is just based dumb fun. The partial transformations and helmet look sick and I hate wearing shoes IRL.
>Ridley
>"Sakurai's favorite newcomer to work on according to some interview"
You have a source for that ? Because Ridley is quite often considered as a disappointment in Smash and the fact that Sakurai actually rather add ZSS sooner than Ridley, made me think, he never truly wanted him in Smash.
Impa would be better than Sheik, at least. Been in more games, more relevant.
Tingle would also be fun.
Cutfags are mentally ill.
>cutting Marth but keeping Roy
Wtf
Fix the online first
>Deoxys over Mewtwo
>Cynthia
>Necrozma
Dude you fucked up the Pokemon reps. Everything is perfect except for them.
Take out a trainer (maybe Cynthia, she's less relevant than N) and put in a few cool single Pokemon. Something surprising but also would make for a really interesting moveset that hasn't been fully explored in Smash yet - like ground, rock or ghost types. Golurk would work well.
Poked around for it a bit, can't find it. I think it's in this article where he speaks briefly on each of the characters, like I seem to recall him saying that K. Rool was originally designed as a heavy that did things heavies weren't supposed to be able to do, then the armor was added later to make him more unique. Or maybe I'm getting them mixed up. The interview's out there somewhere, but it's ultimately irrelevant to the point I was making.
They're not removing Shiek for Impa for the same reason they're not cutting Falco and the same reason that Roy is likely to stay. Your best bet is a Sheik echo, but there's no point.
Tingle would be cool but I can't see him happening considering his absurd unpopularity.
>cutting falcon
absolutely not, he's an og character and one of the most popular in the entire roster
ay those r some good buzzwords
No user we need to fuck up the game by removing 70% of the roster of the biggest crossover of all time for no reason so then we have time to rework characters who aren't little mac which will further remove potential characters that could have been made while also alienating the playerbase of the reworked characters. Not to mention that this will all be by someone who isn't sakurai so that will definitely go over well. It's not like you can't just make a few systemic improvements and minor changes in tech that would make the game vastly more deep, complex and fun to play for long periods of time. I'm smart. They should hire me, what we need is less content.
>cutting Pichu
Pichu's a worthless clone that no one gave two shits about before Ultimate . Literally the only reason you're objecting is because he's top tier now.
>cutting Marth over Lucina
Marth and Lucina are interchangeable imo, the point is to cut one or the other.
>not cutting Chrom
I'd rather have Chrom and Lucina replace Marth and Roy's play styles to give the FE roster more modern characters, but again, the two are interchangeable with their clones.
>not cutting Lucario
>cutting unique playstyles
>cutting Young Link over Toon Link
Toon Link is more visually unique and he's effectively replaced Young Link already since Brawl
>The others all have much more starpower, and that's an objective fact.
delusional. jigglypuff almost got cut twice, isn't relevant anymore compared to the actual kanto shillmons, and only got into smash in the first place because it was a meme character in the anime at the time and had a similar body type to kirby. if a pokemon is getting cut, it's between pichu and jiggs.
They probably won't cut anyone unless they have to. They may just port it again and change the physics
>The interview's out there somewhere, but it's ultimately irrelevant to the point I was making.
Problem, is, Sakurai is no stranger to cutting fan-favorite. Wolf, Mewtwo and Ice-climbers are a good exemple of that and honestly, seeing how much time it took Sakurai to make Ridley an actual playable character, even he aknowledged him in every Smash games. I wouldn't be surprise if he'll get cut in the Next game, because Sakurai just don't really like him.
>adding in Sylux and Louie when the roster is cutting chopped
The whole point of cuts is to make room for new characters, so I don't understand what you're trying to say here
>Isaac despite the series being dead
F-Zero is just as dead but Captain Falcon gets to stick around
>not proper new retro or 3rd party pick
Golden Sun is older now than Ice Climber was when Melee came out. Isaac is the retro pick.
Here's your 50 character Smash 6 roster bro, echoes not withstanding.
That would be the best scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>Hector
ahahahaha this sucks dude
>Grovyle
>Hector
>Waluigi
>Geno
>jigglypuff almost got cut twice
That's exactly what I'm saying. Jiggs is a lock for smash because jigglypuff has avoided the cutting block for 5 games. If they were going to cut one of the original 12 they would have by now. Jiggs is the most likely of the 64 roster to get cut but it isn't likely to be cut in the grand scheme.
Also you can't be serious if you think incineroar has more starpower than jigglypuff. Again, a lot of it is simple virtue of being in smash for so long. Being from the most well known gen and prominent in the most well known season of the anime adds to that. Jiggs is staying. Incineroar is probably staying, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it go.
Think what you want, Ridley is one of the safest bets out of all the Ultimate newcomers. Feel free to screencap.
Oh god I didn't even see
>>>>>>>>>>>Grovyle
ahahahaahaa what the fuck
"Mommy, mommy, cut all the interesting characters from the game. We need >Hector, >Grovyle and >Waluigi"
Sakurai literally won't be working on the next Smash game except in the way a c-suite executive works on anything. Dude is old af, he'll be getting an executive seat soon.
Fine then, have a look at Smash Infinity's roster, the 9th entry in the series, featuring 150 characters
>grovyle
I don't even need to call you out for Waluigi, that right there is the most embarrassing thing on your roster.
It's bothered me since 2008 his FS isn't the Hurricane Spin
It's still a melee with plain boring projectiles, if we're aiming to cut down to 20 characters he really should be gone.
This would be the case already for any company other than Nintendo, with its slavish commitment to perfect uniformity of fun.
The characters literally have like 22 moves and its one of the biggest games of any console generation with a huge budget. This should already be the case de facto.
Ah, now this is based and redpilled. I'm glad you came to your senses.
You can throw as many characters on the roster as you want, it doesn't magically make grovyle a good choice
Here's my Sm6sh expectations
Whattaya think?
>cutting Ken
Oof
>- Snake (not in tune with fighting mechanics)
scrub
Melee has like 4 viable characters...
If you want characters cut you're anti-fun.
>Unitard has bad opinions
WHU WOULDA TAUT?
hungrybox killed every character that isn't Fox or Jiggs
Even before puff blew up, it was pretty much just Fox, Falco, and Marth winning tournaments.
On second thought this is too bloated with pokemon, replace charizard and mewtwo with ridley since he's got the gameplay style of both of them kinda going on.
Oh, and Shiek.
Wasn't it already confirmed that both Cloud and Snake were a pain in the ass to include in Smash ?
I'm pretty sure these guys are boned.
Fuck you, Ike stays
Alright everyone, here's my roster for Cartoon Combat 64.
Wait, wrong board.
Odd as it sounds I think he just has trust issues letting anyone near his child- no matter what he says.
>Starts as a hobby project, never intending for it to take off
>Spend free time making it and showing it to friends when he's not working on Kirby or whatever
>It gets picked up and somehow becomes a Nintendo All Star game
>As the series progresses Sakurai gets more freedom to show his tastes in games and do whatever he wants
>Now his passion project has become Video Games: The Game
>"Lol just give it to someone else man take a break"
I can see him being kinda clingy
I like Grovyle too user. He would make a great Mystery Dungeon rep.
>ed edd n eddy
are they all out at the same time or can you switch between them like pokemon trainer?
>cuts marth, a character in the game since melee
Fucking retard. The melee roster will be always in.
>How to spot the boomer list
>They cut every single pokemon outside the Gen 1 ones
>Even Lucario who's the series second mascot
I just take a glance to see if Mewtwo is on the list while every other mon' is cut to know if I should even humor it.
Why the hell were Roy, Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link cut in Brawl then?
Except the time that Mewtwo, Ice Climbers and Doc were cut.
What are you doing user
>cutting characters
Nigga, why would they ever fucking do that? After Ultimate proved that they could put every previous Smash Bros character into one game with room for plenty of newcomers, I don't think they'll be cutting characters anytime soon
>caring about DH
He's a shit character no one cares about
I'm sorry that pichu is just an unga pikachu, greninja is just a slippier shiek, Lucario is a more boring mewtwo, and Nobody in their right mind actually wants incineroar.
Lazy shitty clone in mele and was replaced with Ike, same for Dr. and pichu, young link was replaced with toon. They were cut because they were there to bloat the roster so they were cut and replaced with better ones and more, plus memory limitations because the wii was just the gamecube pro.
M2--->Lucario, ICs because of 3DS
Yes they were cut once but because they were either shitty clones or were replaced with newer characters that did the same job. Now though they'll stay in because most got upgrades that made them more unique
Fixed the roster overall. Cut the fat, replaced the shit with better options, added actual Nintendo all-stars
All three out at the same time, mostly using each other as weapons, though Ed is particularly devastating with his pebble-in-shoe smash attack.
>cutting Marth and not one of his many clones
>cutting Game & Watch
I'm all for less anime swordsmen, but Marth of all of them?
And why the fuck would you remove G&W?
Garbage.
>Aegislash
Are you literally me? I thought he'd be a bitching Gen 6 rep. I can't imagine a whole moveset in my head for him.
>And why the fuck would you remove G&W?
Cutfags are mentally ill.
>removing richter
Awful. Terrible. I knew you were going to be adding Isaac before I even opened it.
>Adds X
BWAHAHAHAHA
Too much cutting. The 6th smash game should not have the same amount of characters as the 2nd game, unless the series is going through huge gameplay mechanics changes.
He’s literally so clingy he shows up to work with an IV drop so he doesn’t have to go to the doctors
Soccer guy is entirely too attached
>none of these rosters have Rayman
remove heavy marth, magic marth, sword kirby, and heavy kirby
>pebble in shoe is just as broken here as it is n EEnE online
fucking kek
remove greninja along with the rest too
Unless it's third-party companies (Square) being fucking morons, there's literally no reason to cut anyone.
He's removing both shiek and zero suit, greninja has to stay in his roster for gameplay reasons
>5-6 games in, no Bowser's Castle stage
>God knows how many first level/area Mario stages though
Come on, man. There is so much they could do and it's getting squandered.
keep shiek, remove greninja
cut fe fags, there its fixed.
Roy doesn't even have an english game. Why the fuck is he in SSB? He should have never been in in the first place.
I don't care about anyone else but that boy's gotta go
Same, and I say that as a Roy main. He doesn't even borrow anything from his game aside from being having a fiery sword and being a little bitch.
Would rather have Hector. Even Lyn would be okay.
Here is your next Smash game.
and that's a good thing
kino roster, but pokemon reps staying the same is not great.
>doesn't want Rayman
Why not?
>Zelda reaction image
>Is a huge faggot
fair enough.
Both of those had bigger rosters than the previous game
>gayman fags
>Nobody in their right mind actually wants incineroar.
Worse, its (You)
>no joker
>keeping corrin
>erdrick
>fucking galacta knight
wew this thread is a testament to how autistic cutfags are
I killed off Pichu and Catfaggot though. Nobody would miss them.
Galacta Knight is literally the easiest echo they could make. I bet you're a hat goomba fag.
>Thinking Joker should stay especially after no Persona 5 Switch port.
twitter.com
By far the worst garbage shill pick
This thread is making me so fucking glad we got ultimate and not a gutted roster like 4's
Is this the fag that made the "cut Ultimates roster to Melee's" petition?
>make no comment about bandanna "more than a mook" dee
>am apparently a hat goombafag
ok retard
It's cause nobody has taste, but what else would you except from Yea Forums
Frustrating cause he's literally the only character nobody would be upset about and makes so much sense.
>Removes piranha plant
>Adds goomba
>Adds geno
For what purpose?
and there it is.
Mental illness. How many times does this need to be said?
>cutting richter
die mon
Cloud will without a doubt be cut given how hard square are to work with, you might get a fe cut or 2 and maybe a small chance of shulk.
Corrin is one of the best fire emblem characters in the game, she actually plays differently to the others.
Current Smash game only good smash game.
People said this about 4, now people are calling 4 shit, when 6 is out people will say Ultimate was bad.
>wanting to remove a ff7 remake advertisement
He may be yet another bullshit counterfag but he/she does have different moves at least.
playing differently doesn't make up for being a shit character from a shit game
also being a good FE character isn't much a feat
>Lucario is just mewtwo
Lol actual retard.
>I dont want a new pokemon so nobody does
kys
Why do fire emblem players get so upset about corin, actual smashfags would get rid of Robin and corrin last.
shhhh secondaries don't like this. sword = marth sword = marth SWORD = MARTH
>cutting robin but keeping corrin
yikes
>cutting ridley
Yikes
>>>cutting pokemon trainer
YIKES but at least it isn't as bad of an idea as bringing back solo zard.
I like Ken, therefore I will
Sure, from a Smash fan's perspective, who likes characters with different movesets, it's cool.
But for a Fire Emblem fan who wants to see the best of the franchise represented in Smash Bros, a crossover that attempts to achieve exactly that.
Robin is perfectly fine, though. It's just Corrin I take issue with.
Robin is male and corrin is female, the sooner you accept this the better.
Fates is the best of the franchise.
Why do you argue for this thing? What about this is worth protecting?
At least the Goomba has more history with Mario and Geno has actual fans.
Nobody ever batted an eye for these until Smash, and even then it's just memers being obnoxious as usual.
There is no reason for this.
As much as I love Ed Edd and Eddy, they don't deserve to be there as much as say Tom and Jerry.
I opened it and physically recoiled, but it's honestly not that bad at a second glance.
Arceus is the worst character there though, what were you thinking?
Don't worry, Tom made it in the next one.
Square is run by retards, don't act like you'd be surprised. Cloud is the one guaranteed cut on the whole roster. But I think SE is going to have him return as DLC to suck all the money they can out of it/
The ONLY way you could sign me up for cutting characters now is if they start from scratch, cut EVERYONE and then re-add characters rethinking their movesets from the ground up. Either reboot the series so there's a reason to play it over Ultimate, or it'll just be a worse Ultimate, and why play that?
Even if they rework everyone I don't think they can do it good enough to warrant it in the first place. It would easily be outdone by a fan mod for ultimate that has the whole roster and PM-level improvements. The ideal way to go is just forwards.
Hope Dexter makes it into the next one.
Also, change Tom into Tom & Jerry. Jerry should be part of his moveset. They don't have to be friends. You can make it so Jerry shows up and Tom tries to hit him with a broom and that creates a hurt box in front of him.
Toon>>>Young
Galacta Knight did nothing wrong though
It's literally already forgotten
Based.
Fairly safe to say that all of the third-party characters from companies that Nintendo doesn't have strong business ties with (aka everyone but Sega) are going to get cut.
Sega, Namco, and Capcom seem like they'd be willing to continue playing ball. Konami's a little more up in the air. Square Enix can fuck off without much lost though.