Why do you not want Sora in Smash? Not going to insult you, just curious. He's a bad character right?

Why do you not want Sora in Smash? Not going to insult you, just curious. He's a bad character right?

Hmm any other characters you don't want in Smash?

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To be perfectly honest, I don't want him out of spite
I really hate your guts you know

Because hes a faggot. I need Crono

not nice!!!

Disney IPs can't get involved alongs

I don’t want the game to go the way of UMvC3 where it was just straight up removed from everywhere because of liscensing.

Licensing.

To stave off something worse.

I don't see how his moveset would work in 2D, to be honest.

Because Kingdom Hearts is fucking gay.

Because Sorafags are insufferable faggots that think everything is a personal attack on them and tries to guilt trip by whining about all the "hate" Sora gets.

I just don't like his design

I don't like his character and there's other characters I prefer.

okey here goes
>anime sword user
>Disney getting some more undeserved attention
>Sqareeninx was a total doushe when asked to add Cloud Strife to Smash again so many are willing to help but they feel oh so important to care about this.

You cant have Disney things in Smash. Donald and Goofy are not video games. Sora is nothing without them.

I don't care who's in smash and who isn't. And I own the game.

bad design, bad game, bad parent company, ban fanbase
the only squenix character we need is crono. dq can come too.

Literally the only characters I don't want all start with an S:

>Steve
>Sora
>Sans

Cancerous characters with cancerous designs and cancerous fanbases. Don't want that shit in one of my favorite games. Plus I fucking despise Disney for many reasons. Rather not be reminded of them with that shitty character's presence in the game.

But if they are in multiple video games doesn't that make them video games?

>Plus I fucking despise Disney for many reasons

Gamers in general rebel against Disney. Gamers hating Disney is very common. So how come this Kingdom Hearts series is so successful for many years and ongoing?

Because in the minor chance that he brings Donald and Goofy with him. Gokufags will actually and unironically try and screech his way in ruining Smash as a crossover for gaming.
Also this

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Sora’s animations in his games looks like some bullshit. Hate to see that on my screen.

Love Kingdom Hearts, but both Disney and SE are gigakikes.

I like KH for gameplay, music, and some characters like Riku and Roxas. I hate fucking Disney so much. Why couldn't it had been some other company who invented a KH like videogame? Same type of gameplay and general story, just no Diney bastards. Don't say it would fail. Every video game starts as something original and look how many still keep on getting new games.

The fact this thread has remained on topic shows Yea Forums really hates Sora and Kingdom Hearts.

If Sora comes in with Disney, Sakurai would break his own rules, people would be pissed at Disney “ruining” Smash, and Goku would be unironically pushed to insufferable degrees.

If Sora comes in without Disney, Sorafags would be pissed about Disney not being included and people would complain about him being another lifeless anime swordsman.

It’s a lose-lose scenario, and his character design sucks anyway.

Before you comment on any of these realize only one of them in isolation shouldn’t bar a character from getting in Smash. It is all of them together, and RELATIVE to other potential choices, that make him a bad choice. Obviously he’d still be a better choice than many others. However...
He has a boring personality.
He’s himself is an avatar for Final Fantasy, getting summons and some of their spells, we already have a FF rep. Although Cloud doesn’t really represent the magic side of FF, that alone isn’t a good enough reason to include Sora. The other side of Sora, Disney, isn’t that relevant to video game culture.
KH isn’t really a Nintendo thing. At least Joker can be said to represent Megami Tensei, which started on NES.
Everytime I think Sora in Smash, the thought doesn’t offend me. I think it’s just there are so many other characters that I feel would deserve it more:
Erdrick (or any DQ rep)
Crono
Ryu Hayabusa
And of course there are all the ATs that didn’t get in, which could be rectified by DLC.

It’ll only bother me if he is the best choice among the remaining 4. If they make some other good choices like Chosen Undead or a Phantasy Star character, I won’t mind as much.

Kingdom Hearts is a crossover of Final Fantasy and Disney. We already have Final Fantasy in Super Smash Bros.

The other big Square-Enix franchise, Dragon Quest, deserves a rep much more.

I have a better idea

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How so?

Because I don't want Disney's grubby hands anywhere near my Nintendo games.

I find his character to be very bland and boring. The humor and plot in Kingdom Hearts has also never been interesting to me either, and personally as a result i just don't like him.

Nomura thinks his OCs are strong enough on their own to not need FF to sell. I say good because FF was bastardized in KH (and world of FF).

>If Sora comes in without Disney, Sorafags would be pissed about Disney not being included and people would complain about him being another lifeless anime swordsman.
Sorafag here, this isn't true in the least. The best parts of KH have never been the Disney worlds outside of standout areas like Toy Story. The best parts come when the og content is in full swing AKA TWTNW, Sora vs Roxas, Battle of 1000 heartless, The Final World etc. This goes double for the og characters. As for the second point the motherfuckers got more than 5 games of content to pull from from. If ever there was a character with potential for a fun, flashy and true to form moveset its Sora. A lifeless anime swordsman he is not. A whirling tornado of crazy bullshit far better describes him.

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Since Sora is a world traveler I think Nintendo fans would get offended at Sora setting foot in a Nintendo world. It's like Disney is "conquering" Nintendo.

>Sora is a generic anime swordsman, I don't want him!
>BASED, VERGEBEN JUST CONFIRMED ERDRICK IS GETTING IN! HE'S SO ORIGINAL WITH HIS SWORD AND SHIELD!

I don't think you've played FF, KH, DQ, Persona, CT, or NG

Yeah, but Dante from Devil May Cry does what Sora does in terms of having a crazy bullshit moveset and he's beloved much more than Sora while also not being affiliated with Jewish Disney Bastards. He's a safer pick in general.

I really really really do not want Geno in. His fanbase is full of fags and crusty 25+ dudes who think they are still the target demographic for video games.

What are you going to do about it, Sorautist?

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Having him without any Disney content would be inaccurate to the games and be missing what made Sora big enough to be a possibility for Smash. On the other hand having that in would be a legal nightmare and possibly have ramifications for the game overall. No real good way of implementing him without some problem.

Joker
Mega Man X
Doomguy
Crono
Banjo-Kazooie

Ryu Hayabusa is an honorable mention

Also will welcome and Resident Evil Mainline character,

Buddy I hate Dragon Quest. Shit series with very shitty characters and shit stories. But because it's very profitable in Japan? I can understand why it deserves a Smash chance. I respect how historic it is even if I think it's trash.

Am I the only one who wants Geno, but isn't crazy about it like his fans? As far as Mario characters go I wish others like Kamek and Dimentio would show up in Smash.

You're gonna get a Goomba.

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The kingdom heart series is the most autistic shit ever, from a marketing stand point this make sense, Final fantasy wants to get bigger in the west and Disney wants to get bigger in asia, Great! I get that, but the games are the most cringiest shit i've ever seen.
>All the gay fucking poses
>The faggy character design
>The whole game looks and plays out like a badly written fanfic
>"TheN ScroOge McDucK caMe aNd gAve Us a CaKe"

If you want Sora in smash you most definitely have some sort of asperger or autism, Even minecraft steve or fortnite is a better pick than something from that absolute trash game.

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Man I still hate that damn plant and resent what this man did to Mario's RPG games.

>The kingdom heart series is the most autistic shit ever

But why is it successful? The novelty should have died especially since they ran out of GOOD Disney films to shill to normies.

It's not about being a safe pick user. You have a strong connection with DMC and your own reasons. I would not begrudge Dante getting in in the least. But for me KH2 defined my perception of what a truly good video game is and was capable of. I love the series aesthetic. music, sound design, characters, and all the crazy bullshit that goes with Nomura's wild ride. That's why I want him in.

I can respect that. I just hope the remaining picks are better than Joker.

You think wrong. Cept for NG, tho the fact that I want a character who I haven’t played as (sans a few stints on the NES one) shows how much fame the character has.

I've never said it was unsuccessful, I just said it was a cringy mess of garbage, the gameplay is bland as fuck and just because they got a shit ton of disney licenses to cram in doesn't make it creative, the lore is absolute shit.

>No but hundred of thousands of virgins bought a copy
Well I guess it's successful then..

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Maybe because it quickly grew into its own special project from Nomura that people connected to? Kingdom Hearts is popular for a lot of reasons and it's audience is pretty diverse because of it

I don't necessarily HATE Sora, but his fans are the second most insufferable on this board, just under Banjo fans. I also feel like there are better choices. He probably can't come with a ton of stuff because of Disney, Cloud already reps KH, and just because his sword is shaped differently doesn't mean it isn't still a sword, you can't get out of that argument that easy. It also doesn' t help that I don't really like KH.

Sora fans are so bad they even falseflag hating themselves just to throw Banjochads under the bus.

Because Kingdom Hearts is the Naruto of video games.

It's more like the Fate of video games.

Would rather have Neku.

Going off this point, Dragon Quest would represent the main franchise from the Enix half of the company, while Sora would just bring more Square-associated content.

That role is already filled by Cloud.

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>Main character who is an idiot and who's biggest strenght is making friends
>Rival character is obsessed with power at first, works for the main villain (who secretely lives in him for a while) after a falling out with the hero and is also really gay for the protagonist
>The main girl is completely useless
>Teams are made up of squads of three
>All the female fighters are either evil or complete jobbers
>The main heroes has a bunch of characters who act as reflections on him
>There's a mysterious organization that wears identical looking cloaks who is secretely lead by the main villain
>The main villain has multiple versions of himself
>The main villain is revived near the end of the series, just in time for the finale
>Both finales involve all the side characters jobbing en masse
>Both finales involve weird shit being done to the Moon
>At the end it's revealed that a side minion in the cloaked organization was secretely manipulating the main villain

It's pretty Naruto.

He brings nothing new to the table, another sword user? Yawn
>B-B-But it's a blunt object
Okay so the sound effect isn't a slashing one but he still wields it like a sword and still would have the dolphin splash moveset. Honestly EVERY. SINGLE. SQUAREENIX. CHARACTER. would be boring as fuck. I hope not a single one gets in. If Erdrick was so iconic he would have been included ages ago

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Fuck Disney and fuck Squenix. After the dreadful treatment Final Fantasy got I could care less about any of these shitters and their licensing right now. Most Square picks in general are kinda boring except for the really out there stuff like JC Denton or Gex.

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