Let's say hypothetically a sequel to PSABR is made, what would need to happen so that you would buy it?

First copy smash % system liket they should have
Second make everyobe look like they came from the same game and not from different ones.

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A universal art style that compliments all characters together.

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>bunch of Western IPs

Can't wait for dude with gun and friends to take over the roster

I'm not sure it could ever compete directly with Smash due to the size and scope of its roster. I'd hope for All Stars to take a different approach and do something different, maybe a 3D fighter like Power Stone or PSP Dissidia.

At least it's not another anime swordsman.

A lot of the IPs already in like Twisted Metal and Naught Dog platformers are western plus Infamous, God of War, and Littlebigplanet. Just because Sakurai has a terrible taste in JRPGs doesn't mean Sony's smash clone has to go the same route with using a single character archetype. Although, I doubt Sony could get someone competent enough to make anything halfway decent.

>oh boy smash with sony characters. Just what I always wanted
>wtf these's aren't sony stars and why are supers the only way to kill

They didn't copy smash enough. hardly any games use the % system for kills

>Although, I doubt Sony could get someone competent enough to make anything halfway decent.
What about Cory Barlog?
He seems competent enough to tackle a crossover game like this.

Good God this game was awful... Sony was in a "we can make Nintendo games too", showed they clearly couldn't, and then decided they'll only make movies.

They're so fucking dead...

Would it have been successful if it had kept the original roster?

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I just don't see anyone wanting a platform fighter choosing anything but Smash. Why would you? It already has a bunch of characters from classic PS games like Cloud and Snake. Smash isn't restricted to being Nintendo fighters anymore, it's taking reps from everywhere. If Sony wants their series to be anything more than just a Smash clone for people without a Switch they'll need to try something different like I mentioned.

You'd still see people complaining about no Crash. Also if the gameplay is still the same then it would still fail.

The art style needs work. The presentation too.

Hire Sakurai
Consistent art style
Make it an actual shameless smash clone
Add Snake, Ritcher, Alucard, Dante, Nero, Vergil, Crash, Spyro,
Remove Donte

Stage mashups seemed like a lazy way to avoid making more stages. They were terrible

Redo PaRappa and Spike's models because holy fuck do they look bad.

Too many forgettable characters. Barely anyone remembers Fat Princess, Buzz announcer would suck, Heavenly Sword didn't do well. Blasto would be legit 11/10 but they couldn't do it without Phil (and shouldn't get an imitator to replace him). They should stick to their big mascots (some of them included already) like Sackboy, Ratchet, Jak, Crash, Spyro, old Lara, Spike, Patapon, Sir Dan Knack. It's really strange to mix together violent mature characters with realistic artstyles alongside the memorable classics.

Nathan Drake, Kratos and Cole looked awful next to Sackboy and Parappa. It looked like they ripped models directly from their original games and just squashed them down. At least Smash has a consistent visual style.

Smash has snake and bayonetta in it though. I think it just comes down to with art direction which PSAS had none of.

>It's really strange to mix together violent mature characters with realistic artstyles alongside the memorable classics.

Never stopped smash even during brawl

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Either commit to making it a shameless Smash ripoff with removing meter and having knockback or make it an actual 2D classic fighter a la Street Fighter. And please more PS classic characters and less edgelords/gun shooting man no.36

Eeh, if anything, for the first game I feel like these could've been the main eight:
>PS1
-Crash
-Sweet Tooth

>PS2
-Kratos
-Rachet and Clank

>PS3
-Nathan Drake
-Sackboy

>PSN
-Fat Princess

>PSP
-Kulche

>b-but Spyro
I know Spyro is just as iconic as Crash but in my opinion he has the "unlockable character" air about him.

>b-but Fat Princess isn't iconic
Iconic to the PSN (well, before Journey stepped in anyway), plus it's to avoid the cast looking like a sausage fest
>b-but her game's not old so it's not a classic
Pokemon was (almost) three years old by the time of Smash 64. And isn't the idea of a crossover is to bring together old and new alike?

Anyway, and as we already know, if the purpose of PS-Allstars was to gather PS characters in one fighting spot, then Big Daddy's inclusion, especially since he was in the first trailer, was an immediate red flag.

Smash has a consistent art style and adapts characters to fit in. All Stars tried to have realistic lighting/shading on Nathan and Cole while stood in the onion dojo next to Sly and Ratchet.

spike and kat together and being cute

>Guy turned GOW into a sad dad game expected to make a video game crossover
Why not Japan Studio?

>No fucking Ape Escape

Exactly. Some nobody studio made PSAS and it lacked any of the polish and refinements Smash has.

Don't try to get as many characters as Smash, that's impossible. Instead, remove the supers, make it so all characters fit visually, and make great combos.
Also, put in real gaming icons. Big Daddy and Fat Princess are not. Crash, Spyro, Baldur and Joel from TLOU are.

Pepsi man needs to be in

Maybe use what i like to call the "golden points of crossovers".
>Addition
"we need Crash and Spyro in this game"
>Representation
>we need to make Spike look like Spike and not a fucking goblin and probably showcase Ape Escape's music"
>Material
"this random jrpg protag may as well have more moveset potential than normal looking guy with guns"
>Creativity
"we could go nuts with how Parappa plays because his universe is silly but we must make the moveset fit"
>Risks
"sespite driving his truck most of the time, Sweet Tooth will spent more time often outside his truck to fit along with other characters"
>Base
"why is it a Smash clone when most of these characters are from 3D based games?"
"what about an art style that makes them fit and not clash with each other?"
>Variety
"if these characters fit that rule Valve used for TF2 where they can still be recognized as silhouettes, that's good news"

More Playstations icons, less generic army/gun men and less literal who's

The guy has soul and passion, if he's given the project then he can make it work.

Make it a traditional 1v1 or a tag 2v2 fighting game, the final boss is the ps2 disc error screen.

But the more interesting Sony characters are always literally who's.

Make Dart vs Sir Dan match up a reality, dragon head vs dragon wings

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Okay fine, I'll replace Sweet Tooth with Spike.

Fucking Sony
Why did they cancel Dart?

rip

aside from the game not doing well, they probably lost hope and thought nobody cared
so they stopped caring