Can we all agree that Resident Evil 4 ruined the series?

>hating on Revelations 1
You are on my shit list now.
The rest are trash and I can agree.

Rev1 is fucking trash. Even 6 is better than it.

Its always funny when people shit on 4 for killing the series when it was RE3 that did that, or at least didn't stop the decline the series was facing at the time, a decline so bad that without RE4's direction change the series would have died right there. Also funny that your image pretends like RE3 wasn't overloaded with ammo.

A good premise, location and partially good atmosphere doesn't save a game that is fundamentally flawed and badly executed.
If that was the case we'd all be praising RE: Dead Aim.

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Yea. Until remake 2 saved it

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Hold the fuck up I love RE5
That game got me laid
Fuck you RE5 is fantastic

Add Code Veronica and I'd agree.

Dumb beccafag

Remake 2 did everything right that RE4 did wrong.

>That game got me laid
That's a bullshit reason to defend a game and you know it.
KH2 got me laid, you don't see me parading that around as a mark of quality.

I like Zero and Rev1.
>If you like any of these you're on my shit list.
Funny, coming from someone who likes CV

This. RE3 was a huge step down and I remember being able to just mow everything down

I still prefer RE4. Not being able to melee is retarded,

-Absolutely awesome atmosphere for horror with its lighting, level design, change in enemies, shift through transition of levels
-Enemies(despite limited number) have plenty of detail visually and audibly especially chainsaws, dogs, bugs, blind berserkers, el gigante's and the parasites that come out of their heads
-Plenty of cinematics with great voice acting and also quick times events all designed with a death scenes that are both brutal and gruesome(IMO fun to watch)
-boss battles are well designed and not impossible even with a pistol with limited ammo since they usually allow some method of use for the knife(which is better quality of life IMO)
-UPGRADABLE GUNS & variety! not sure why but its fun(options i guess?)
-IMO compelling storyline i enjoyed the smack talk from all the major enemies of the game and the eventual progression of defeating them all(good pacing)
not sure where the hate is coming from but the old design is out dated and would never be acceptable as a sellable product in day and age anyways so not sure what you are expecting for the future of this game

>more fun than the rest of the series
I accept it.

lmao what the fuck are you saying RE2 and 3 are piss easy if you dodge zombies. if you do you also end up with a shit load of ammo

I rather have code veronica remake. Since it's the true sequel.

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RE3 also has retarded dynamic item placement that is independent of the enemy placement in level design, and every boss fight is pure garbage. The player doesn't even get to manually fire the End Gun. Even RE7 lets you do that.

CV is irredeemable. They would have to change so much in order to make it good that it wouldn't even be a remake anymore

You can kill literally everything in the original RE2 and end up with shitloads of ammo. My copy doesn't even have a difficulty selector, which makes the only difficulty available "Too Easy"

7 is great

No RE5 did that, RE4 didn't even sell well on release and only gained its reputation a few years after the fact.

I think the more important thing to agree on is that Ada is best girl

>RE3 that did that
RE3 sold more on PS1 alone than RE4 has ever done on any single platform it has ever been released. What "killed" RE was an obnoxious desiscion to move the hyper succesful franchise away from PlayStation to almost ANY other platform. They tried to force it on Dreamcast, but the Dreamcast was dying, they then wanted xbox but discovered they couldn't work with the Americans at all, and then settled with Nintendo expecting the fanbase to follow onto a platform they didn't want. Protip: it didn't fucking work, and no Gamecube RE game INCLUDING RE4 moved more than 1.6 million copies.

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>Not being able to melee is retarded
No it isn't. You might as well have said removing floating gold coins is retarded. There is zero reason for Leon and Claire to be jumping 360 round house kicking zombies in the face or that they even could.

>You can kill literally everything in the original RE2 and end up with shitloads of ammo

No you cannot. You are exagerating a tiny bit user.

Post the accurate version next time, OP.

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The one on the left is correct, but you would have to be a massive fucking faggot to believe the one on the right

>KH2 got me laid

What is this goddamn fuckery I don’t even know where to start

?

They probably had sweaty pleather coat cosplay sex

>Comparing Survival Horror to Third person shooter with survival horror elements

As in anyone who is trying to pretend that the enemies in 4 were a stressful time are talking full shit.

Hmm yes, indeed, what could be the reason people compare these two games at all....

Capcom made the same game five or six times before 4, it was time to try something else.

Shame that after 4 they tried absolute nothing but poorly implimented copy pastes of 4 that no one liked until REVII came out.

Zombie games in the CURRENT YEAR? Puh-leaze

Ok tough guy

A true patrician loves every RE game, warts and all.

not even "tough guy" after coming from previous RE games the second i pressed a button prompt that allowed me to fucking roundhouse 4 enemies into the air around me i felt in fucking control. Leon was no longer running away from infection, he was running INTO it with genocide in mind. I was there to fucking kill.

Some of my fondest memories of high school were on RE5 when we tried to break records on split screen mercenaries with my best friend.

>RE4 is good but RE5 is bad
what is this meme, they are basically the same game
atleast RE5s Coop was great

It saved the series, sorry.

Yeah user, another example! RE0 is basically the same game as REmake! Why dont people love them the same! Made from the same cloth after all!

And?

It didn't even break RE3 numbers let alone RE2 numbers. It was only loved well after the fact once RE5 came out. Sorry.

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I liked 7, but otherwise based.

When are we getting an updated O U T B R E A K

ok user.

>RE3
>ammo scarcity
LMAO this is how I know you didn't play RE3.
Only RE1 had scarcity.

RE4's linear structure is a flaw though. The chapter system is pointless except maybe to hide loading screens.

the chapter system is for pacing.

This, it's just so fucking good in its own right.

But it did fuck up the franchise for nearly 15 years, but that was more the problem of the retarded monkeys at Capcom after Mikami left.

have sex

But that comic in the Health & Ammo section is supposed to be about RE6, not RE4...

No lmao

I like everything except the shitty spinoffs like survivor

lmao at the salesfag

damn sometimes i love this place

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Facts dont care about your feelings, i know though, that you are used to arguments based on nothing more than calling someone a faggot and telling them they are wrong because you say so.

B-b-buh muh tank controls!

those are in RE4 as well you retard

stay mad classicfag

>GC version sales
el my ass oh

What about Code Veronica?

yes

Only cool if it's the Dreamcast version.

>people STILL seething over RE4 being a masterpiece to this day

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This picture says nothing about which game is more fun to play

>why yes, I do think RE4 is the greatest game of all time, how did you know?

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RE4 is legitimately one of the top 10 best games ever made and I don't give a fuck about your faggot ammo-rationing garbage. I don't want to ration ammo, I want to watch a muscular blonde man blow spics away with shotguns and lasers while throwing cheesy one liners at midgets and cultists. RE4 was a fucking mic drop for the entire third person shooter genre and it still hasn't been beaten. I've played it on GC, PS2, Wii, PS4, PC and I will be buying it yet again on Switch next month because it is that good and I can finally live out my fantasy of playing it while taking a big fat shit. RE4 is absolute chad-tier solid gold and anyone who dislikes it should be purged from the earth.

It made a pretty good go of it.

Resident Evil 4 is a great game. IMO it's more dated now than some of its predecessors, but it's still a pretty enjoyable experience.

The problem is that, having dramatically changed the format, Capcom tried to rebottle the lightning that was this new format, and ended up making subpar games (though great fun in multiplayer).

It was only when Capcom heavily modified the format that it started feeling refreshing again (RE7, RE2R). But those games have elements of both the classic and post-4 REs.

I preferred the older RE puzzles, absolutely adored RE4's attache case system, and wishes that there were more centralised locations to explore and open more of, like the Spencer Mansion and the RCPD.

>RE4
>more dated than isometric tank control PS1 trash
lol get out of here you fucking potato

Series should be allowed to change things up. The problem is that Resident Evil REmake was released around the same time but exclusive to the Gamecube (and later released on the Wii in a state where basically no one but the diehard fans knew about it), crippling its sales and making Capcom decide in a rigged fashion that RE4 needed to be what should entirely emphasized in going forwards. Then they fucked that up in their decade-long incompetency streak, repeatedly.

We could've had both Action RE and Classic RE concurrently, I don't think the action games don't need to exist, but Capcom had to Capcom.

*saves the resident evil franchise*

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By far the biggest mistake of post-4 RE is trying to force it to be a coop action game. RE5 and 6 are actually great fun in mercenaries thanks to updated mechanics and engine.

>backtracking
>Resident Evil: Good
>literally every other game in existence: [unintelligible]

No RE game really manages to piss me off except Revelations. Its press and even fans tout it as something different from what it really is.

Are you fucking retarded, backtracking is the foundation of the entire metroidvania genre and last I checked people like those as long as it is done well.

>namefagging
>reddit spacing
you have to go back

RE5 is co-op kino

>metroidvania

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Bring back the grid inventory with key items in the same space and item boxes

Rev 2 is the best.

yes, I 100% agree.

But I think that what started it was Code veronica though.

They started the supernatural/super hero thing.

Thankfully they understand what they did wrong and came back to survivor horror.

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This user gets it.

RE4 is not bad though, but it doomed the series.

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RE5 is extremely fun in multiplayer, but it's not a proper RE game, just like 4 is not a proper RE game.

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You cheeky shit

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if you consider RE4 anything less than a masterpiece, you don't get shit you fart huffing faggot

The fucking lies about """"classic""" resident evil are really out of control.
I was actually there. The games were shit.
And what's this about "rationing" ammo.
Like how hard are you larping?
You literally just run past all the zombies. That's all you have to do.

That was a pretty strange decision by Capcom. The problem wasn't expanding it to other platforms, but not releasing it on PS2. It made no sense. Specially for Remake.

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re4hd.com/
>chapter 2-1 completed
Glad to see that he's actually going a passover of all the assets through the entire game after finishing the core elements.

>Greatest game of all time
Maybe a good RE game. But best game of all time? Sure, If I was locked in a room for several years and all I had were RE games. Yeah I'd agree with that

I'm sorry about your terminally shit taste.
You should consider suicide before it spreads.

It's a great game, but it doomed the series.

Made Leon a superhero, it's not about surviving and stuff. Removed the puzzles. We can hardly call it RE.

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I think the only saving grace of Revelations is its true metroidvania level design. Pretty much everything else is lackluster or straight up bad. The flashback side stories are all godawful linear trash, and only a retard would think that resurrecting RE3's "dodging is an invisible contextual QTE" would be a good idea.

The charm of the game is to "learn and optimize".

You can get so good at it, that you can get by almost anything.

It's great for the first time, when you're discovering the game, and it''s great for replays because you can go Sanic speed.

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whoooaaa you told someone to kill themselves on Yea Forums!!
are you fitting in yet?

And yet RE4 is more fun
Games don't need to be complex in order to be fun. In fact, the left game's complexity would turn me off immensely, especially the backtracking required at the map.

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truth bomb right here

Stop playing and enjoying resident evil 4. Play remake instead

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because you're not a real person

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There is the PS2 sales right there

>It's great for the first time, when you're discovering the game, and it''s great for replays because you can go Sanic speed.
I hate the fact that the popularity of speedrun autism has made the primary ranking criterion of a RE playthrough the time it takes to finish the game. It doesn't matter how much of a professional survivalist you are, how carefully you explore for resources that would help you survive or how well you avoid dangerous situations or creatures. All that matters is that you make it through the campaign as quickly and recklessly as possible. Don't try to survive in this survival horror game. Just win, and reset if you accidentally take a five second detour.
But at least it still isn't as retarded as the popularity of the polar opposite of survival horror: The Mercenaries minigame.

>masterpiece
>island section

>calls others fart huffers

Why do niggers have to ruin beautiful characters?

>he hasn't seen the black guy doing the RE2 remake Claire cosplay

>RE2: boring slog
>RE4: fun

>hating on Mercenaries
its time to go back.