Classic WoW threads up 24/7 hitting bump limit

Oh boy, it means gold selling chinks will be running the official classic WoW server too :)

have sex

epic based response my nigger xD

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If it was all shills, there would be 10 threads up at all times, instead of just one thread hitting bump limits, you incel brainlet moron

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im gonna play wow classic and I WILL LIKE IT

im gonna play wow classic and I HOPE I WILL LIKE IT

I'm in the same boat, actually. I have the urge to get into WoW again, but as I learnt when I quit the game at the start of Cata, if you're not being social it gets old real fast. I hope I can get into some social levelling and have a bit of fun.

dumb tranny

>were going home brooooos
Fuck these faggots and Fuck classic.
>p-please come back and pay for an account we propped up the corpse of the game we killed for you to play with give us money
Fuck nublizz and Fuck Activision.

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>Dwarf/Orc
This is the tryhard autist race due to a handful of very potent class combos, they'll screech at you for playing sub optimal specs/races in any way and are typically insufferable. they like to think the old vanilla 'le epic dorf/orc bros xdd' idea still exists, but in reality they just form circlejerks patting each other on the back for mix-maxing in a 10 year old solved game
>Human/Undead
Every rouge you meet or die too and will be dickish players who think they are hotshit and never follow orders, but any other classes should be ok. These races draw in a wide audience with humans being the ultimate boring normie pick it's hard to pin down
>Nelf/Tauren
Being bestial/nature races with lots of r34 they attract furfags, most are garbage, some are alright. They're also the only option for druids (aka turbofurries) - Expect them to never leave cat form/pull the entire floor of Gnomergan as they've never heard of 'dismiss pet'. Kick on sight any of these faggots who start typing in babytalk or :3 X3 catface emotes, trust me
>Gnome/Troll
The bane of the dwarf/orcfags, they are casual easygoing players who have chosen the worst racials possible and give zero fucks. Expect some reddit-tier manlet/nigger meme names but assuming they don't act too cringy they can be alright.

how accurate is this pasta?

everyone I know plays all races so not very

>Blizzard shilling a game made by 10 people with virtually no budget

Marketing teams are probably not even aware of Classic.

Bullshit. Retail is a colossal failure and the current dev team has no idea how to fix it. People have been screaming for classic for years and all their twitch faggots which are the only people actually driving interest in this piece of shit game any more have been pining for it for years. Classic is their only idea on how to save the colossal Fuck up blizzard is in right now and its also an easy economical decision as it costs them almost fucking nothing to produce. All the works already been done for them.

Were going home and there's nothing you can do about it

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>butchered
....?

Pretty shit honestly, Human/Undead/Orc are the try hard races with some of the more broken talents. Gnome have the best int racial in the game and for classes that can benefit from the full berzerking trolls are amazing. Nelf/Tauren is pretty close but it also includes little kids and legit stay at home moms

The idea of hugging you sweaty 30 year old fat fucks disgusts me. I don't want to be associated with any of you losers even though I didn't play vanilla. I'm 19 and I plan on maining Classic because fuck BFA but you boomers are straight up fucking sad.

>tfw friend who I played with in vanilla has a 10-year-old kid
>might even play with the kid

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For them it's a fan project. Classic has no microtransaction and considered an outdated business model. Subs only are not enough, microtransaction is where the money is.

That's why they don't even bother talking about Classic to investors.

>Tfw trans generational game

I wish racials were never a thing

It's a hacked-together mod of version 8.0, not the previous version of the game... don't tell you didn't know?

sounds boring

>uphold hacker bans
Ah yes the notorious game-breaking breast enhancement mods were truly deserved perma-banning. The only redflag about Classic is their lack of marketing, Ion has done dozens of interviews for gaming magazines for 8.2 of all fucking things, I'm not sure why Blizzard's marketing budget would go entirely on shills

>Gnome have the best int racial in the game
Yeah but no one wants to be a goofy shit joke race so most Mages just pick Human or Undead

Yeah but to say they have bad racial is 100% wrong even if they are a fucking stupid race

>y-you dont want a bear tank?
>i-its not "optimal"?
>*sigh* okay....

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>Escape Artist
>Shit racial.
All Premade Alliances always pick Gnome Warriors no matter how shit they are or they gear is. It's literally BiS racial for Warriors.

Whether it succeeds or not classic will be retard containment and i'll have to hide less threads

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The problem with Druid tanks was they dont get the gear or threat generation.

>it's another faggot who thinks that using modern engine somehow changes things

not very, taurens and nelfs are usually pretty laid back homies who just appreciate hanging out as opposed to any anxious-mess that is a furry

>gnome
>worst racials
Not very.

I'm gonna buy some actiblizz stock and enjoy the spike once classic releases and then dump the stock after that first month rise. If you think classic won't impact their numbers compared to where its at now because there's no microtransactions I think you might horribly misjudge how many people will come back to try it. I wouldn't be surprised if it nears Wotlk level of subs for the first month or two.

Stop saying this or you'll summon him

it could, we'll have to wait and see how vanish and shit works

bear tanks and ret palas are okay
however people are pretty annoying about them since they have an inferiority complex and constantly have to prove themselves verbally instead of just mathing out the limits of their class and proving it theoretically

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There is literally a vanilla WoW general on /vg/ and jannies are too afraid of neets to move these daily threads there. Just the same 50 people talking about the same things over and over and saving their allowance to give it to blizzard.
Daily reminder that your sub will go towards BfA and activision's pocket. You are giving them the numbers to say WoW is healthy and continue what they've been doing for years.

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all the cuts did was make customer service crappy

that said if you think classic will be appealing as a real game as opposed to a temporary event, you are very silly

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>vanish
>shitposter is some zoomer shitter rogue
lmao

>faggot has no idea what game engine is and what server architecture is
Jesus fucking christ, if you shitpost at least know what you are shitposting about.
Being able to vanish things is server side phenomenon, that's why only one private server has it, it has nothing to do with the client version.

summon who?

>more people playing classic than retail
>this shows the developers people want grindy challenges instead of welfare loot pinatas
>this is somehow a bad thing

leave my comfy classic threads now thanks

>Sharding is implemented to reduce server costs

>Classic WoW threads up 24/7 hitting bump limit
People actually want to talk about it. At least they keep it one fucking thread unlike Smashfags who need to have 10 threads about the possibility of Miyamoto's pubes getting into Smash because Sakurai took a shit today.

>There is literally a vanilla WoW general on /vg/
...there isn't though? just wowg and wpsg

>more people playing classic than retail
how fuckign daft are you. Did you never see those forum screencaps of the level of retardness current WoW players have? The people buying 20 tokens a month and every single premium mount aren't going to want to grind for gold and epic mounts instead. You can't seriously believe a million people playing classic on the release month is gonna be more profitable for activision than 300k paypigs on retail

sharding is temporarly active in only the starting zones to compensate for the temporary surge of players starting

real talk, I have zero interest in classic, but from everything the devs have said about recreating the original experience (spell batching, itemisation, pvp, etc) makes me think they really are genuinely passionate and serious about the whole thing

like, spell batching was one of those things were most people were saying "yeah well we're not getting that because it's the modern engine" but here we are, we're getting classic spell batching

*Uhum excuse me mister faggot
but ur wrong
theres only /vg/ for retail wow AND the private server realms
so yes mister faggot you are wrong kys

make me tranny

is it not gonna have the spell queueing system that was introduced in tbc or so?

because using abilities in vanilla sucked major ass, it was like playing on 300 ping at all times

>nu blizzard
>passionate about anything other than milking what's left of the franchise

Don't you realize that by making another classic WoW thread you are shilling it yourself?

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>they are changing things because community asked them to
>no they don't care tho
The denial is real.

>he thinks classics success will impact retail
Lmao. The dev team is so fucked they would have no idea how to implement anything close to old wows standards. All the old creative people are gone except for token fucks who are just on hand to say look look we rehired so and so classic is gonna be great! The only way anything happens like what you are envisioning to retail wow would be from the removal of the current dev team.
>m-muh comfy
Fuck off faggot. You are literally excited to give money to the murderer of your game to play with the corpse of what they killed.

Did I miss any? I only tried to include SMASH related, there was probably another 3-5 Switch/Nintendo related threads too.

>The problem with Druid tanks was they dont get the gear or threat generation.
Another major problem is they have no way to reliably stop crushing blows. I never see this brought up in Bear druid discussions but Warriors can reliably push crush's off the combat table due to shield block.

Well you could put it like that, but it's something a lot of people asked for because they enjoyed the specific interactions caused by it.

wowhead.com/news=290910/spell-batching-in-classic-wow

>For those unfamiliar, Spell Batching refers to how the WoW servers process incoming interactions. Instead of processing everything immediately, the server creates batches of actions (attacks, buffs, debuffs, etc) in order to process them all together. This is done to optimize the amount of time the server spends processing those effects. The side effect of this is that actions in the same batch are considered simultaneous and don't affect one another.
>In the past, back when servers had less computing power than phones nowadays have, these windows could be very large, with some games having up to 200ms windows of batching, including WoW. With better technology and servers, this system was improved over the years and, while it still exists, and effects from it can still be seen, the windows are much smaller, being 20ms wide for abilities in retail WoW. This means that abilities cast within 20ms of each other are considered simultaneous in the eyes of the retail WoW servers, while this window was about 200ms during Vanilla.
>This large window leads to very interesting interactions, as listed below, mages able to Polymorph each other at the same time, other classes being able to break CC like Polymorph by using self-harm effects like Dark Rune, etc. This happened because those abilities ended up in the same batch of actions, being validated before the other happened. These effects have very important repercussions in PvP mainly, so it is important that Blizzard is keeping the large window for spell batching to preserve the Vanilla experience in Classic.

Horde > Alliance
Shaman > Paladin
Fury > Prot
Deep resto is bad for shamans.

in bis end-game gear you get a whole 0.2% crit for being a gnome, and before that you get almost nothing beyond little man syndrome

Aww you went through all that effort just for me? No wonder you're excited for classic if you're this bored

>Escape Artist is nothing
I mean, if you wanna play PvE you better of playing retail.

f

dont mind that cock sucking turbo faggot
hes a retail faggot and hes very angry classic kills retail finally.

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I know I even started playing Retail because I can't fucking wait. 43 mage already in 26 hours of play. Can't wait to get out of the Classic zones and see the new areas, tempting to just stay on Retail but too much has changed.

that isnt brought up because we still arent sure what data we're playing on
for example how much defense gear will a warrior need for 1.12 itemization in phase 0-4?

say goodbye to not giving blizzard money

spell batching and queueing are different mechanics, batching was in the game at least untill cata or something

before queueing was introduced the best way to increase your dps as a caster in raids was making a /stopcasting macro and you'd end up with a 20% dps increase or some shit because if you pressed it at the end of a cast you'd start the next spell immediately instead of having to wait like 200ms to be able to cast the next frostbolt or whatever

wasn't that just lag compensation? and you still have that in retail, though the "window" for the cast to still be completeted is so small you generally don't bother with stopcast macros, but it does commonly play into movement after a cast

I don't know but it was changed sometime in TBC (or maybe wotlk) so that the macro wasn't needed anymore

>That faggot faux latin guild name
>Almost 30k posts on fucking Blizz forums of all places
>12 downvotes on the most safespace mod policed dick sucking hugbox ever

holy kek. the only thing that would make this perfect is if he were playing a Worgen Dk or some shit

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depending on how perception works in retail, escape artist won't be all that great for casters by comparison.
if you're a duelfag; sure, gnome is bis for casters no questions asked, but in bgs and open world, it's more up in the air.
for meleefags, gnome is bis for bgs and duels, but open world is questionable, especially because of paladins and dispel magic being more freely available.
of course, weapon skill racial is bis for any melee class in pve, but the 5% int isn't so clear cut because of just how the spell system works in classic.

I agree with him on aoe looting, killing 20 mobs at a time on my mage and looting them separately sucks ass

>26 hours of play
>level 43
>retail
Was 20 hours spent sucking goat dick in goldshire? You should be max level by now.

Only a delusional nostalgia tard would defend 5 Hz tick rate servers. What next, asking for them to re-add the loot bug where your character is stuck kneeling until you relog?

leveling's pretty slow since they nerfed it

Like I said I have no interest in classic but for one, that is the way it was so recreating that is kind of the point, and another is that those specific interactions can be fun.

>doesn't understand that aoe looting nerfed world drops and dungeon/aoe farming in general
you went from having 30 chances of rolling a 1% drop, to a now reduced cumulative chance of rolling that 1% drop.

if you read about what the developers did to compensate for the fact you could now farm even faster, they "smoothed" drop rates. your time is less valuable with aoe looting, and it's far more exciting to individually loot every mob from a psychological perspective.

i read this in an indian accent.

well is it that fucking hard to code it so that aoe looting doesnt affect droprates

That's the first time I heard that. Aoe looting shouldn't affect anything but the amount of times you click on corpses.

It's already been proven by several years of gameplay and then a decade of math, sims and theorycrafting. Sometimes B and C can shine but A will generally be better. This is life. Play what you want but accept the limitations and consequences of your choice.

You can easily test this yourself. Go to scarlet monastery or any other dungeon, pull everything in the dungeon, and kill everything at once.
do the same thing, except kill either one by one or in small packs.
the difference in loot is substantial.

>spell batching
whoopdie doo, now 1 in a million times hunters and mages can accidentally CC each other at the same time, game changing

You can also see this in older games that didn't have aoe looting like GW1, where if you kill everything at one using an aoe spike, versus individually, the drops were significantly less.

get the same problem with aoe looting when loot dropping is tied to frames

it wasnt that rare
warriors charging each other and ending up with swapped positions was common

WoW was always shit

stuff like that is why I don't like classic autists

I think minor balance tweaks like making prot/bear more viable would be good for the game

if they make a D2 remaster I want them to fix the fucking Fend bug already which has been in the game since launch making the ability essentially unusable

I haven't played retail in 9 years, so I can't and I don't honestly care. That's, however, is completely retarded and that would be an explanation why people are against aoe looting.

you do realise that vanishing CC was a CORE mechanic for rogues at the highest levels of PvP till cata

spell batching eliminates the possibility of someone with a better ping than you always beating you to a key press.
also there are no diminishing returns on CC in classic, so being able to CC each other at the same time is critical to maintaining the integrity of the original experience; otherwise it devolves into who has the lower ping, and they just autowin, much like in modern wow pvp.

Honestly I am not opposed to minor tweaks to make shit like spriest, moonkin, ret, enhancement etc etc viable but the #nochanges crowd seems to be the vocal majority. It would be nice to see more than 4 viable dps classes but I'm not gonna hold my breath. There's always TBC and Wrath private servers for that I suppose.

Are people on Yea Forums stupid enough to not think that blizzard will fuck this up somehow?
>We're going home....
Just go play a FREE private server.
>But its not blizzards
Yeah? thats a good thing.

>Are people on Yea Forums stupid
yes

>2 mages with similar skill and gear
>mage A crits
>mage B doesn't
>mage B dies

Integrity of the pvp experience lmao

Daily reminder that neither Halo on PC nor World of Warcraft classic will turn back time and magically turn you into a happy child/teenager again. You will be immediately and immensely disappointed when you realize that you are not going home. Let go of the past and start living in the present so that one day in the future you may look back on today with the same fondness that you have for your younger years.

Pretty much, im expecting a in-game shop with pets and level boosters and shit since blizzard will need to make money from classic somehow. The 15 bucks is not enough and blizzard will find a excuse for it

all of the specs you listed are fine in 1.12, the only thing they lack is mana management, which is only a real problem in the pve setting where boss fights may last more than a minute.

also support roles are a real thing in classic unlike nu-wow, an spriest is brought just for the shadow damage debuff, and ret/enhancement can provide much needed support without topping the damage meters, though their healing specs would obviously do more for the raid.

moonkin is more of a meme pvp spec than anything, and you don't even use moonkin form in any of the two well-praised and practiced main balance specs

that's life when you stack spell power instead of int/stam in pvp

Is there much difference among alliance races for rogues?

Jokes on you, my mom was an abusive alcoholic who regularly screamed me and never made me dinner and brought comfy chicken tenders into my room during my no life WoW sessions. If anything, I will have more fun playing it as an independent adult.

home is in the arcades you stupid shit.

human rogues see other rogues first in stealth before they can be seen themselves due to their racials

also I think night elves have superior stealth? or their shadowmeld uses rogue stealth? there was something like that

I think TBC did a lot of good for the them, they were still "support" specs but could dish out some sort of competitive damage along with it and not go oom in the first minute

having a spriest in your group as a caster or enha as melee felt fucking good

Remember when Poe Deadfire had a bump limit thread each day for weeks? Look how that shit turned out. Nobody bought it and it faded away into history.

human perception is a godsend in rogue v rogue encounters, and the sword spec is nice as well.

dwarf stoneform can clear other rogue blinds and makes for easier restealths since it removes bleeds.

nelfs had passive +stealth level in wotlk, not sure about earlier

>all those specs are fine except for this one glaring weakness they seem to share that manifests itself 45 seconds into every encounter, also they don't scale with gear and nobody actually uses the entire spec, but yeah. Fine.

lmao dude get real. they aren't fine and could use tweaks. a 5% magic crit buff for 4 people isn't enough to offset doing 120 dps over the course of a 5 minute fight.

dwarves have cloak of shadows in the form of stone form which allows for you to re-engage almost no matter what,
humans have sword and mace specialization which make them bis for damage due to weapon skill decreasing glancing blows, parries, blocks, and increasing crit chance. perception on retail should actually work, so you'll see stealthed enemies a mile away.
gnomes have escape artist, which is good against mages and net-o-matics, not much else, really shines in solo play, less of a factor with priest/paladin support, but a very large convenience for them as they don't need to support you as much.
nightelves have the shortend of the stick since shadowmeld isn't usable in combat, but they do get 1% dodge and the increased stealth allows you to run a different sub build if you're pickpocket farming. also the 10 NR shouldn't be scoffed at, as even partially resisting shaman burst is quite nice.
overall you should just play what you enjoy looking at and hearing

Human Perception only gives you about a .1 second reaction timer even if you're directly looking at the rogue. And I prefer dagger specs for Rogues personally.
You definitely wanna go Dwarf on Classic because there will be a fucking shit ton of Rogues. If there are more mages, Gnome would also be an option.

A word of advice for boomers: remember OSRS. It is a vastly different game from actual 2007 Runescape.
Whether or not that's a good thing is up to you, it is just some food for thought.

>he doesn't enjoy a solo adventure braving the dangers of azeroth as the random nobody he's supposed to be

I'll be ganking relentlessly for 10 hours a day and only a permaban can stop me.

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This basically.

I am only going back to troll people and kill town npcs.

if they fuck it up then we won't play it, same way we don't play retail which is why they are making classic in the first place. but thanks for your concern.

you don't even use the 5% magic crit buff with bis because you're crit capped. the only reason they do 120 dps over the course of a 5 minute fight is because they run out of mana in about 40 seconds.
the lack of dreamstate hurts balance druids a lot, but it's not like their damage is bad or needs tuning. in fact you could crank all their damage up by 50% and it still wouldn't fix them in pve.

it's the same problem with all the other specs listed, they simply run out of mana and have no talents/spells to replenish mana

With you on this, expecting a lot of basic stuff like how agro’d mobs follow you or how quickly allied enemies respond to their friend being agro’d. Classic team being vocal on ensuring authenticity for things like spell batching leaves me hopeful

So? My mom did the same thing, but I'm already home playing FF14.

the point of the post was he is happier now than when he was 13 years old

Gotta make room for all the smash threads up at the same time right toddler? Wouldn't want one of them falling off or anything.

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>I'll be ganking relentlessly for 10 hours a day and only a permaban can stop me.
You're not going to get banned unless you engage in harassment that goes beyond normal pvp, ganking, and camping. Anyone that claims blizz ever bans for pure pvp is leaving out the part where they called someone a nigger or followed the same person for a week camping them while calling them names and sending their mom dick pics.
If you're just camping/ganking and not harassing people, it falls into "pvp solution to a pvp problem" category. There are lots of reasons to bark about nu-blizz but this rule has stayed solid for ages.

MMOs are essentially really boring RPGs once you take the multiplayer aspect out of it.

>BUT SMASH
Classic crybaby behaviour

The difference is smash is board culture and there are actual people who play and enjoy that game (also the game is release).

Threads about Blizzard shit in the current year are all shills. Also, even pre-release, there is literally nothing to speculate about or anything new to discuss, other than "how will blizzard ruin it?". It's a solved game everyone already played. All of these threads are just the same 5 blizzcucks replying to their own posts posting webms of rogue v. paladin and LOL NO SHOES copypasta that get zero replies.

Go chug some more basedlent and shill harder blizzcuck. Complain to Morhaime and get him to pay Hiroshimoot to give your game stickies too. Have fun being unemployed soon, faggot shill.

So if you camp someone for a week without the other stuff, are you getting banned?

>no my game matters, yours is shit
It's like I am in the school again, arguing who is better, power rangers or ninja turtles.

I AM SILLY

>m-muh smash is board culture
that some next level delusion toddler. no one cares about your irrelevant fighting game

>smash is board culture

kill yourself

the servers are made differently to accommodate sharding. they won't be able to host classic without sharding. it's why they're saying it'll be "enabled at the start" they don't plan on ever disabling it

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>actual game threads BAD
>here's your controller, bro/games for this feel/ /pol/ threads/ tranny threads / e-celeb threads GOOD

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>makes a post saying blizzard is poor
>somehow I'm to believe that when they're firing actual helpful people they can afford to hire even more people to shill on Yea Forums of all places
Imagine being this retarded

>people like vanilla
>Paladins and Shamans can only heal in raids and wear shitty cloth armor
>everyone is a warrior who is the only tank in raids
>expensive mount for no reason and having to level slowly in thousand needles for no reason with every quest taking you across the map
>almost every class spams one or two buttons

The only good thing is world PvP and some raids are fun even with boring mechanics, but no reason to play there over some private TBC or WOTLK server other than security in the sense that server won't just get deleted and no problems with corruption.

>smash is board culture

unironically neck yourself

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Oh look, another one. Ion explicitly said that sharding clashes with the classic design philosophy, but somehow faggots still believe they are lying, when they time and time again proved that they try their best with minuscule budget that Kotick gave them.

I'm 100% behind whoever is doing the anti classic stuff. Please keep the player base to those that are already aware of how good it's going to be, thank you for helping out

if it gets stickies regularly, it's board culture. go use that shill wage of yours and take a vacation to COPEnhagen

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>hacker bans
Not sure what is saddest, the classic threads or the anti-classic threads.

t. newfag

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I read the hacker bans one and all it says is they misbanned some people who they thought were using malicious third party software but they discovered it was just character altering mods that were client side. How does that mean they are too poor to uphold hacker bans?

No one is camping anywhere for a week and no one is being camped for a week, so it's kind of a nonsense question. But yeah, you wouldn't get banned but you would probably eat an infraction of some sort for harassment depending on the GM and how you responded to his request for you to ease off.
For an actual ban you'd have to be a huge cunt 100% of the time or skip right to the nigger part.

Only gets a sticky because some mod is a faggot nintendo fan boy

Anyways keep seething as there will be a home thread every day and there's nothing you can do about it tranny.

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Yep, that was my point

I like home threads because I love calling out basedlent guzzling blizzboy shills and watching them seethe with rage because their livelihood literally depends on this game succeeding.

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Hey everyone it's Athene, the best paladin in the world

this is my boyfriend furious

>1 classic thread that gets renewed once it hits limits
>this video game discussion is somehow bad for Yea Forums
>there's tons of thread up right now that have absolutely nothing to do with video games
>he doesn't know that actual shills make multiple threads a day just so more people see it

not sure why someone would be upset about this

How do you still not know how to hide a thread in the year 2019

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What's the best website to watch apes fuck asian sluts?

inb4 blacked.com, get out of here with that weak shit

Remove pathfinder and we're golden.

They temp removed flying cuz devs wanted you to appreciate the art by being grounded. Well art can be appreciated at all angles.

Daily reminder that Classic is shit and TBC is better in every possible way.

Classic is the last hope for Blizzard. If it fails the company will fold.

Remove pathfinder , that's it.

>They temp removed flying cuz devs wanted you to appreciate the art by being grounded
Wrong thread but that isn't the reason and congrats on falling for memes.
The actual reason is to make you play longer you absolute cuck. No surprise that a bfa baby has no common sense and not only posts something entirely unrelated in the wrong thread but gets his premise wrong as well.
Eat shit, we're going home. No one likes your gay worgen anyhow you monkey.

I KNOW they did it to make us play longer. I was talking to those who love Blizzard too much and deny that is the case.

based

>flying mount
>resilience
>blood elves
Get the fuck out, faggot.

Are you retarded? He said it himself there will be sharding you idiot. Sharding and item scaling will be in the game. It's already public knowledge.

>t. who never played a classic and tbc on live

Is it too late to start at MHW. Will people help me if i SOS?

>Blood elves are problem who play a major part in Frozen Throne
>not some random shamanic race that got retconned hard and plays a minor role

No, it's a grinding game and people will keep doing same monsters all over again.

>Flying Mounts
DIdn't make a difference. People only started bitching about it years after they were implemented and mount speed was reduced to 1.5 seconds
>Resilience
Made PvP actually playable compared to the shit show that is classic
>Blood elves
Who cares

Meanwhile you have:
>Better, more difficult raids
>Better dungeons + Heroic modes
>Better and more enjoyable PvP
>Better tier sets
>Better WPvP (Isle, elemental plateau, kara entrance)
>Better class design
>Better, more useful set bonuses
>More diverse, playable specs

Try again classicuck

That's why it will be there only in the start. Are you one of those people that only hear what they want to hear and ignore the rest?

I really wish that a BC server would show up if Classic is a success.

BC days were as good as vanilla days for me.

>That's why it will be there only in the start.
Never said that, he pretty much dodged the question entirely. Legion engine can't even support over 100 players per zone.

also
>Trust blizzard
>Ever
cuck. they lied about the extend of sharding they would use in retail and they'll do it again in classic

>and item scaling will be in the game
What item scaling?
Re: sharding - if it's only in the starter areas and only at launch, it's a non-issue. They've repeatedly said they realize how wack it would be otherwise, and so far they've said the right things in their updates. It remains to be seen, of course, how honest they're being but if we're just going to default to "wow cant trust these fags lol" then there's nothing really to argue about.

Charge Blade
Hammer
or great Sword?

this is 100% accurate

>Never said that, he pretty much dodged the question entirely.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w
Kill yourself shitposting retard

Sadly there is less data about TBC and more work to make a "legit" TBC server plus Nost staff that is helping Blizzard will be useless there but maybe they could make it. TBC was much better IMO, class and build viability much more versatile instead of everyone having one build.

All 3. Hammer can't cut tails so you probably want one slashing weapon. GS is great in every game, personally I don't like changes to CB in terms of playstyle but it's subjective.

Once Classic subs start to really sink after a few years of Naxx on farm there is absolutely no way they won't release Burning Classic

The only question is how many expansions they will release. If they stopped at Wrath (and implement just one change to it, no cross-realm shit), that would be absolute perfection for me.

Then start it all over again in 2030.

it should also be noted that fucking up classic goes against the entire point of classic - to lure past blizzard customers onto their new bnet. It's a loss leader, not a foray into a new cash cow all on its own. Think about it logically, this kind of chance is rare for any company but especially video game shit. They're getting past players onto their new bnet system to then be assaulted by ads, friends lists (new friends playing overwatch, etc) and these customers are PAYING a sub for it. And more sales are just a simple button press away. The bnet aspect of this is the real moneymaker and is why fucking up classic would be the opposite of common sense.

you guys do know the plan is to eventually roll the server into bc right?

>We're going to use it but we're going to use it extra hard at launch
Wow based blizzard

>item scaling
Are you misunderstanding something from a recent blue post? There is no item scaling. Are you talking about progressive itemization? Because they aren't doing it, it's progressive content with the final version of items that changed through vanilla's life. So think more kronos, less nost/ely/northdale. Spirit of aquamentas won't be a mana reduction as an example, it would be the later version.

It's being sold on the exact same lie sharding was sold on retail

>W-w-w-we're using it to help with unpopulated zones when realm populations are lower
Kek. And you faggots are actually okay with it. Again.

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>explicitly lying about the point of sharding being in classic
Don't you have frogs to post?

He didn't say it's being used on unpopulated zones he said it's only for starting areas during launch

reminders
/sit won't proc reckoning
lupos won't be shadow damage

as a general guideline, if you're unsure about something, check wowpedia patch notes and if it was changed before 1.12, that's the version you're getting.
lol on recklets and huntards

Are you that fucking bad at interpeting what he said?

Go to 1:12
>There are going to be others who want to check it out casually and want to see what they missed, and our concern is >>what is that going to look like as server populations dwindle over time?

It's tourist problem, you mouth breathing retard. You are the one who can't interpret basic human speech. Sharding is there so they don't have to open shitzileon realms for tourist to abandon later and end up with two full realms and rest of them dead per region.
But keep shitposting, since it's all you can do, while we are going home.

All that really matters is if you can get to from point A to B. Just because you can get there slightly faster with X doesn't mean Y is shit.

There are some caveats.

If the dwarf is a priest, he's definitely a tryhard autist. Dwarf paladins are 50/50 on being autistic. Any other class is usually okay.

All Orcs are either autistic tryhards or feel like they have to play orc because of the racials (usually act defeated and depressed blame pservers).

Humans who play warriors and rogues are try hards. If they play a paladin, they're probably on the autism spectrum, mentally handicapped or a tranny. Priest/mage/lock are all weaboos who want to play their waifu or some extremely fat dude who likes to stare at low poly video game ass all day.

Undead are either edgy teenagers or a minority (usually a nigger). You don't know they're black until you hear their mom talk over ventrilo. If it's a female, stay away. Definitely a smelly weeb, a tranny or a girl. Stay the fuck away from these.

All tauren are bros. They can usually take a joke, are really chill and don't take things too seriously. They're also, usually, bad at PvP because they don't care.

Night elves are a mixed bag. The hunters are rogues are usually the edgy retards that would play undead if they were horde while the priests are just contrarians who want to play something unpopular. Nelf warriors are autistic fags who want to be swifty or think the 1% dodge is good for tanking (it's not).

If the gnome is a mage/lock they are a tryhard autist. If the gnome is a warrior/rogue they're usually alright.

Trolls are also usually really chill. The one exception I've noticed recently on private servers is troll warriors tend to be try hards because they technically produce the most TPS with berserking and regeneration is moderately useful (compared to some of the other passive racials).

>sharding
You can really easily tell in these threads who played WoW through when Legion was launched and sharding was first implemented and people who are just coming back now after many years and don't understand how soulless and lying nuBlizzard is. They based Classic off of the Legion beta client. Sharding was completely broken at that point. RP realms were ruined and they had to retroactively patch the game because realm communities were split into 20~ or so different subservers. It's how their server architecture works now and unironically there's no going back.

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He then uses the point that it's completely antithetical to the idea of classic, that there needs to be only one Lord Kazzak and limited thorium veins to counter the argument of using it in a limited way.

Finally he does outline the one acceptable implementation of sharding, during launch

>Here's why sharding is bad and we're not using it
>HOWEVER we will use it in starting zones during launch

now go dilate, tranny

It's not a tourism problem you knuckle dragging fuck. They literally said they are using sharding in the long term to mask zones not being as densely populated when the game launches and people are leveling. You are only focusing on the later portion of his speech where he just owns up to also using it in full force to deal with starting zone competition, which is also fucking retarded anyway because part of the game is about making friends and cooperating while questing and grinding if there are too many people.

Not if these autistic pserver faggots get their way. They constantly want 'fresh' servers and want to play classic for eternity. I honestly can't think of anything more autistic than replaying the same progression path in an MMO over and over again for eternity. I'd rather dome myself.

*Ding Ding Ding*
Attention, everyone! I would like to make an announcement!
*AHEM*
FUCK LFD
FUCK LFR
FUCK TRANSMOG
FUCK FLYING MOUNTS
FUCK ARENAS
FUCK PET BATTLES
FUCK ACHIEVEMENTS
FUCK MOUNT COLLECTING
FUCK CATCH-UP GEAR
FUCK SHARDING
FUCK CROSS-REALM
FUCK PHASING
FUCK BLOOD ELVES
FUCK DRAENEI
FUCK PANDAS
FUCK WORGEN
FUCK DEATH KNIGHTS
FUCK MONKS
FUCK DEMON HUNTERS
FUCK AZERITE
FUCK TRANNIES
FUCK CASUALS
FUCK ION
AND FUCK BLIZZARD!
Thank you!

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>now that being said...

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>"Here's why we are going to use it in the long term to make mask server population dwindling"
>HAHAHA BLIZZARD SAID THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO USE IT AT LAUNCH!!!
based retard. he made it as clear and concise as he possibly could. they are going to use sharding to mask lower server population numbers. it's not just a thing they are going to use at launch. it's going to be the normal with a few exceptions like with world bosses, not the other way around like you think it is.

youtu.be/hhKkP8LryYM?t=2040
Directly contradics what you are saying. How can they use sharding (which is not the same thing as what you are describing, it's cross realm zones, but you are retarded, so I will let it slide) to hide dwiling population when they explicitly state that they won't use crossrealm grouping? Really jogging my noggin.

>it’s another “classic will have a small population I swear” episode
Aaaaaaand snapped.

>monk has always been my favorite RPG class and I bought MoP just to play monk
>monk won't be in classic
>mfw

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I'm quoting the dev panel directly. Do you not understand what sharding is? It's cross-realm instancing. He says straight up that they are going to use it when server populations fall after initial release so new players don't feel lonely.

what? its definitely going to be smaller than whatever retail is now but its not going to be so small it seems like a waste

it's not even a good argument as the pop is near irrelevant.
I'm not sure why people can't grasp this, they treat it like a pop issue when subs aren't even the main money maker in retail anymore, not by a long shot.

Actually sharding is the dividing up of players within their own realm. Completely different thing from CRZs

Do YOU understand sharding? Because that’s not what it is. You’re describing cross-realm functionality. Sharding is when they divide the population on the SAME SERVER amongst multiple shards to make it easier for players to quest and reduce load and their shitty cloud servers.

You're a fucking idiot if you ever had hope for wow classic

>It's cross-realm instancing
They already specifically said they won't be doing cross-realm play, retard.

>4th expansion class not in vanilla wow

woooooooooooooooow

>Actually sharding is the dividing up of players within their own realm
No it isn't, or at least that's not how Blizz sharding works. There are no such things as realms anymore in the literal sense. Blizzard doesn't have actual separate server infrastructure for each realm, they just deploy cloud servers and primarily keep players in the same "realm" group in them, it's not strict. The only reason they still use the term "realm" on retail is because they can sell realm transfers.

So tell me, if they aren't going to be using cross-realm sharding then please enlighten me

>There are going to be others who want to check it out casually and want to see what they missed, and our concern is what is that going to look like as server populations dwindle over time? that is where we are looking at using sharding in a limited way.
What the fuck did he mean by this? How is he going to use sharding to deal with smaller server populations if he didn't mean cross-realm sharding?

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Would this be a good solution for population?

Free transfers from Low pop servers. If you're happy on a Low pop server you can stay, if not, you can just move to a Med or High server.

I see no downside to this.

This is some advanced level of damage control, dumb zoomer lmao.

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>Blizzard years ago
>Perfect speaking english GM who helps extremely well
>2019
>Indian GM full of typos and doesn't help at all

Blizzard going fine

But what if I do camp lowbies trying to quest in Duskwood or Wetlands for weeks straight and go out of my way to chase one guy when I can?
Personally I call it regular PvP. You know what you signed up for when you created a character on a PvP realm after all.

not the guys you're arguing with but it's pretty plain you don't know what the terms you're throwing out even mean. I'd suggest moving back and figuring that out before continuing.

This, though no doubt they'll probably try to really double down on fucking over the private servers who don't bend the knee and shut themselves down. Will suck if the server I'm on disappears but the experience will have been worth it. If only people RPed.

They did exactly this multiple times back when vanilla was retail.

You are taking things out of context, you are ignoring the words "on launch day" you fucking imbecile right before your quote that you like to throw around.

That is honestly probably just regular pvp, yes. You'd probably know if you were moving into what they consider "harassment".
Like you said, pvp server.
Now, if you're chasing the one guy across several zones for days at a time, getting on an alt account and whispering that he's a faggot, then that is obvious harassment. Since that isn't in your example, it's pvp.
No need to worry or concern troll about it.

>crits your tank twice in a row

CLASSIC IS CANCELLED

s1.webmshare.com/rgwb4.webm

You can shard the same realm into separate instances and you can also shard multiple realms into one instance. The former deals with overpopulation and the latter deals with underpopulation. It's really not that hard to understand.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w&t=1m08s

In this clip he's talking about what's going to happen to the game after the initial hype wears off and most players are in the endgame while there are less players in the early/mid zones. How exactly are they going to solve the problem of low pop zones via sharding, but without it being cross-realm? Blizzcucks unironically know the answer to the question and they refuse to admit it.

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>though no doubt they'll probably try to really double down on fucking over the private servers who don't bend the knee and shut themselves down
This is a valid fear. Despite the reddit memes, a server being in russia or hosted by OVH doesn't make it immune. In general it's not worth the bad publicity and effort to shut things down and simply sending C&D to the host satisfies their legal requirements. Some interpret a grey area with emulation anyhow and losing a case (if it came to that, not counting wowscape) would be disastrous.
But that potential grey area vanishes when classic is launched, and so does any bad press for shutting down servers offering something that is live and not merely an abandoned version of the game anymore.
If you talk to pserver admins, most are worried it will be a big issue coming up and even the northdale fags are betting on tbc being their new cash cow.

You have pretty poor English skills dude

Okay, I am done, this one is completely retarded. If you want to twist the truth into your own delusion - be my guest, just don't expect me to play along for too long.

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Sharding will be gone by the time world bosses are implemented

If anything, I hope servers which do decide to go bc will allow characters to be transferred, and if not, well it was fun. Will be stuck tolerating belves and goats once again.

>And, our concern is, I think it’s exactly as you suggest, what’s that going to look like? What’s that going to do to realm communities, as some server populations may dwindle over time?
>That is where we are looking at using sharding in a very limited way.
Still have yet to tell me what he meany by this. How is sharding going to solve low populations without using cross-realm? Tell me please. I unironically want to know what he meant.

Sharding isn't going to fucking matter because even with it the playerbase will be so massive compared to the private servers that you'll still have very populated instances.

Neato. Yeah I like to go out of my way to piss others off, but I NEVER say anything back, I just love the hatemail.

who the fuck wants to play horde
literal mudhut niggers eating KFC in their designated nigger KFC huts in the middle of every zone (complete with every vendor, more quests then alliance and FP ofc oh and sometimes there is even a zeppelin or free transport thrown in) while chimping on anything that moves in numbers only despite rolling for pvp racials but never actually 1v1ing to use them
then porting into their literal mudhut nigger KFC city called "orgrimmar" more like ogreshit lol blizzard literally took some somalian shithole town and copy pasted it into wow to give that authentic nigger feel to the faction le monster races br0 check out these NO SHOES so whacky better name myself something fucking retarded like boogerbones to fit in btw get owned kid totally bg queued out of that 1v1 close one
you want a sick capital city to afk in br0? take your pick :

- literal sewer shithole with aids and feces everywhere
- some fucking retarded canyon thing where you fall off and die
- literal nigger kfc somali city

NO

SHOES

NO SHOES
N O S H O E S
N I G G E R

FUCK YOU HORDE NIGGERS

I like how the wojak OP stops on the weekends.

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youre arguing with shills or retards who dont know how legion sharding works. give it a rest. you're right and they're wrong. have sex.

>both reading and hearing comprehension of average Yea Forums shitposter

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There's 8 smash threads for you to engage in your faggotry within already nigger

An outdated business model that still put Blizzard where it is today and bloated their company size just off subscription fees.

This "outdated business model" will still rake in shit loads of cash but if it isn't ripping the pennies out of people's pockets then I guess it's not considered enough.

>enjoys a cheeky wojakpost when he gets home from work during the week
>out slaying pussay on the weekend

Incredibly based

They're going to let shitloads of people into one server and shard it. Once the launch novelty wears off and the retailcucks (who got it for free since they already pay the sub) fuck off back to retail and the server population inevitability dies as modern gamers lose interest, they can remove sharding and you'll still have a healthy server of people who want to play the game, instead of having them all split up between a dozen servers

>paneity
not a native speaker, but if I try to "pronounce" that it kinda sounds like "penalty"
is it what's supposed to be?

internet is worldwide dude, english isn't spoken in all countries. can you speak more than one language? fuck off

i don't like smash

Yeah, I can, but I don't argue with native speakers of the language I'm learning on their internet messageboards

there are barely any people still playing retail wow though. People quit after roughly 3 months of bfa, noticing how everything is just a slot machine.

Yes, early on he says they won't use sharding in the way he is describing, only for starting zone congestion. There won't be a problem with low population because the server will be healthy with both casual, slow levelers and people who reach 60 in 3 days.

Did you just stop listening there? Did you know get to his "THAT SAID..." part?

>upwards of 10+ Smash threads up at once every day
>at least 5 DMC threads at a time every day
>same with Sekiro

OP is a dumb cuck

A reminder that druids will be tanking in classic, and they will be superb

>being hyped for a 15 year old game that sucked dick

i come on Yea Forums everyday and ctrl f for "home" i just really like the threads : )

We can't know without waiting to see what the populations are like. They will probably start with a set number of realms and then if needed expand more. They don't even know what they are going to set as the max population for realms right now. My guess would be that they will just merge low population realms together into a single realm. Still, like people have said before, this has nothing to do with cross-realm play and they specifically said they aren't going to use cross-realm play in any situation with Classic. Instancing != Cross-realm.

Torn between making a Hunter Rogue or Warrior. I DUNNO

welcome home brother :)

>They're going to let shitloads of people into one server and shard it
they've already said servers will be regional. Is this some nostbaby secret hope for a global mega fuckhuge server? Is this pserver fag coping in disguise?
For NA we'll be likely getting at least one pvp/pve/rp(pve) server for each time zone if not more.

If there was one megaserver pserver tryhard guilds wouldn't be currently shitting their pants trying to figure out where they go since their Na/EU players wll be completely split. And the few NA only tryhard guilds are trying to tard-wrangle their players into settling on one timezone server.
The point is you are dumb and need to keep up with the project if you're going to shitpost adequately.

>people will actually fall for this

>the playerbase will be so massive compared to the private servers

How do you know this? There will be lots of people playing Classic, but that does not mean there will be lots of people on each individual Classic server. Blizzard can make as many servers as they like, and spread out the overall Classic population. If their goal is to mimic the original WoW experience, a population of around 3k would be normal. Some pservers have had much larger populations than that.

i didn't literally mean 1, just 1 of rag type instead of multiple to avoid splitting populations up

>both reading and hearing comprehension of average Yea Forums shitposter
Try following this guy's advice

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Yes I understand that they are ALSO using sharding during the staring zone congestion. You fucking moron. I'm not disputing that. That won't be cross-realm.

The issue he was outlying before is how they are going to deal with some server populations becoming lower after a while, and they are going to use sharding to deal with that. He addresses TWO separate cases of where they are going to use sharding but you think he only means at the beginning when he clearly, directly, and concisely says they are going to shard low population servers together.

He doesn't but you are free to provide links and screencaps since I already disputed both of your previous claims.

I'm sorry but are you talking to me?

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how bad are holy priests for solo pve?

do you have friends? are you good at making friends?

thats nice. now can you keep aggro and not get crit?

>they are going to use sharding to deal with that.
he never says this

>solo
but yeah i get what you're saying.

I do but every single time I post it, nobody actually addresses it. They just post an unrelated part of the video talking about starting zone congestion which is clearly not cross-realm, or just call it bait.

>And, our concern is, I think it’s exactly as you suggest, what’s that going to look like? What’s that going to do to realm communities, as some server populations may dwindle over time?
>That is where we are looking at using sharding in a very limited way.
1:08 in the video. Feel free to directly address the meaning of what he said. Still waiting.

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>using sharding during the staring zone congestion
>That won't be cross-realm
>they are going to use sharding to deal with that
>they are going to shard low population servers together
I honestly don't think you know the difference between the things you're talking about. You mentioned sharding twice yet assigned it different meaning between your first and second line.

What part of "early on" you don't understand?

There's an armor cap. You can't get more than 75% reduction despite what the tooltip says. It's a bit higher for bosses since they're level 63 but I'm pretty sure image is over that cap too.

God you're fucking stupid. None of that has anything to do with cross realm play. He just means since they can't estimate how popular Classic will be they might have to dial back the sharding/instancing if player levels aren't that high. They never say that they will use cross-realm play or """""sharding"""" whatever the fuck you think that means if the populations get low. If anything they will just merge two realms into a single one. Stop fucking posting you absolute retard, how many times did your parents hit you and drop you? Fucking retard, jesus christ you are so dumb.

What part of "as some server populations may dwindle OVER TIME?"

He's talking about two separate uses of sharding you dense fuck.

Wand spec, spirit tap, imp swp is all you need to go from 1-60, in that order. even if you go shadow those will be your bread and butter. Wands are to priests what 2h weapons are to warriors. Upgrade it often

I'm going to be the biggest heal slut that ever was. Are you warrior enough to keep my slutty urges at bay, for me to stick behind and underneath you as I should? We'll see about that daddy.

>He's talking about two separate uses of sharding you dense fuck.
please explain in your own words what sharding is

We've been through this, MCP druid maintains the highest tps in the entire game, not even a fury warrior using an exploit can compete. Feral druid is optimal on as many fights as a tank warr.

Full priced game. Monthly fee. Always online. Insane grind. Lootboxes. Cash shop. Paid name changes. No bikini armor. SJW story and characters. Diversity is celebrated. EXCLUSIVE to the Blizzard store. Has had 7 $40 expansions. Costs 20 irl monies to change the name of ONE character.

Why isn't the gaming community protesting?

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If populations dwindle they will stop using it or use it less. Still has NOTHING to do with cross-realm play, you retard. There is no "two separate uses" it's the same fucking thing in either situation but just the amount of shards they will use.

better hope you're playing with /vg/ because no one outside of there tolerates that aggressive faggotry, it just comes off as obnoxious and cringe

>not get crit
If your healers can't keep a tank who occasionally gets crit or crushed alive, your problem isn't the tank. it's the healers

He talks about this in the context of tourist leaving the server not even getting pass level 20. Did you parent ever told you what context is and did you have any cognitive development as a toddler? Because you are clearly incapable of following the simplest conversations.

Fair play to ya.

even so, 75% reduction man

...

He's implying that if they didn't use sharding early on, they would have to enforce smaller server populations at launch, and those smaller populations would dwindle over time. A population drop-off is expected and so sharding is used at the start to manage what will be an overpopulated environment, which will allow the drop-off to lead to a healthy pop, instead of an unhealthily low pop.

Good luck then.
We both know you aren't going to spend 4 hours a week farming gnomer over and over. You may think you are but that's going to get old fast, especially when that's completely separate from your normal time necessary to farm consumes and otherwise make gold for yourself.
It doesn't mean you won't find a guild, a lot of guilds will be open to it. But the tryhard neets are going to have far less patience than you're imagining despite what some sweaty anime girl avatar in a theorycrafting discord is telling you. Those players aren't going to see the value of treating one person special when they already have a GM and officers enjoying their snowflake status. And part of the reason those guilds work is by keeping everyone on the same page with the same autistic goal, and kid-gloving some furry degenerate isn't high on that list.

the gist is no matter what you say now, the reality is just too much effort and far too obnoxious to maintain. after the 10th week of MC and BWL looking it will be a struggle to keep that shit up and guess what: this is what you wanted.
Memespecs ALWAYS say they'll be the most dedicated faggot in the guild and they NEVER are. Because it gets old as fuck and the opposite of fun even after the first clear.

i have a gnomer running bot

>TFW I have a lvl 45 Prot warrior on Kronos
Feels good man, fuck ActiBlizz fuck Western games and fuck Classic

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Nu blizz fails a lot of things but i suspect catching druids botting gnomer wont be one of them.
If nothing else you can expect a guildie to report you at some point and make it even easier.
Realistically i assume you know this and welcome it as it removes the option of you giving up on your own, you can have your meme and have it ripped from you and you save face.

Warriors terrified they have competition. The fact a druid bear can tank most of Naxx in BWL gear no problem speaks volumes about pure damage mitigation just from armor alone.

Even kronos which has a not small percentage of players not even planning on classic is having people leave in droves. So congrats on being on an even emptier server soon.
Even the best guilds are struggling to keep rosters up.

Classic will be fun but they could stand to upgrade some of the old raid mechanics. BfA is shit but the boss fights are at least engaging.

Also fuck sharding

yeah i know wand spec is good shit for lvling but what about solo grinding & farming at 60? holy nova sucks ass compared to arcane explosion etc?

youtube.com/watch?v=alH2QXm8MM8

I've botted in every expansion but bfa and never even got temp banned, but you could say the same about model/texture editing/swapping and they recently went gungho on that so you might be right

no, i'm not a warrior, and I'm well aware what druids can do. I probably wouldn't use naxx in three years as an example for anything but you can do wtf you want.
I'm saying it's simply not fucking worth it and no matter what you say now, the autism fuel will wear out. And others aren't going to be nearly as enthusiastic about making some random faggot's feral dream real. No one will care, really.

I've botted too ,and the times I've been caught are when someone in my friends list reported me.
A druid farming gnomer would be relatively high profile as far as botting. The druid would have better luck farming somerthing else and conserving his autism bursts for gnomer.
EVeryone in the guild would realize what he's doing and keeping that discreet would end up impossible. There's always a white knight even when you don't think there is.

I've been doing the same exact thing

>muh dr00d tankingz so epixxx
Just ignore those delusional weirdos. Few guilds on classic will bother with them at all and just about everybody will see them as an oddity not worth wasting time and gear on.

Who cares? I can play Vanilla with a sizeable server pop and good community and I don't need to give actiblizz a cent

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Oh, yeah sucks compared to AE, but that doesn't mean it's useless. You'll still be able to use holy nova to farm lashers in DM faster than the 5 dungeon reset per hour cooldown, just like mages do. You'll just have to put together a spellpower+int set or wait until you're MC geared.

Good fucking LORD.
I forgot how many buffs there are in Vanilla.

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Guess I'm lucky none of the guildies I told reported me for botting my fishing skill in Wrath.

Seriously though, fuck fishing in all video games. It's the worst.

>Just ignore those delusional weirdos. Few guilds on classic will bother with them at all and just about everybody will see them as an oddity not worth wasting time and gear on.
That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work - it can be pretty darn great just like the dude is saying.
The point is that path of least resistance is how people will deal with that. It's easier/simpler/less effort to just not deal with the bear meme. Why would anyone care enough when they don't have to? Especially since the main tank role is almost always something the guild works out first thing and usually the GM's RL friend.

You're going to be in gnomer for hours anyway, botting or not. Your guild and friends have no way to know if you're botting or autisming

only autists care about minmaxing 15 year old content

>Who cares?

I care. I want to play Shaman and not a single server has blizzlike Shamans. There is always some shit that is broken or not working like it should be.

>Seriously though, fuck fishing in all video games. It's the worst.
hah, that's funny. I've botted but never for fishing, i find it relaxing and it's great with music or a movie.
Even easier in classic since unlike retail vanilla we'll be able to hear the bobber when alt-tabbed.

Exactly and it's why you ought to ignore those furfags that need to spend their entire lives in a dungeon just to make their niche class capable of tanking at all.

>There is always some shit that is broken or not working like it should be.
True story.
On nost, windfury and imp totems was bugged.
I finally asked a GM about it and he said "lol i dunno none of us play shaman".
I'm not sure why nost is held up as some pinnacle when outside the pop and hype it was mediocre in every aspect. But that type of bug fixing is the norm. If it benefitted the GMs they'd fix it asap.

But shamans work fine on Kronos, totems class quests and everything
Still not a reason to give Kotick money

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more like blizz should fix the game

>killing patchwerk in 3 minutes

gonna be fewer in classic

Nothing to fix, especially not some class that was never intended to be a tanking class for anything other than low level dungeons.

>tfw comfy Saturday raiding

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Fact of the matter is a feral takes 1/5 the time to gear
Completely uncontested TPS, your guild will be able to blow up a boss.
You can be instantly teleported to Gnomer entrance from BB, a run takes 6 mins a time
feral shares no gear = more gear for melee dps and other tank.
Will not be surprised if guilds rushing to clear content in classic use MCP druids. They are clearly ST gods.

Eh, normal people don't need THAT many buffs just to function as they should. That video has a druid pretending to be a tank, so of course the guy needs every single buff on the planet to not get squished. Even then the guy gets crit pretty strongly by Patchwerk. That's never going to happen with a good warrior.

i like kronos but that isn't a good example.
they routinely have issues with bosses, recently firemaw was bugged horribly after an update.
Your reasons for not giving kotick money are valid (you don't even need a reason) but holding pservers in high regard as far as actual values and scripting isn't something you should be doing. They are adequate - which is probably good enough.
The more pressing issue is that despite what you think, vanilla servers are going to be ghost towns full of primarily chinks and eastern euros after classic launch. If you're ok with that then awesome, no big deal.

*alliance only

Keep dreaming, scrub, but every single guild on the planet will take a warrior over some dime a dozen healer that thinks itself a tank.

i get what you're saying but i have a hard time believing blizzard will do any better. this is the same company that lost the source code for their own game then got it back thanks to some redditor who got lucky at a garage sale

1.12 is broken. it just so happened that in that patch certain classes got the shake (wars, rogues, mages) and others didnt (shamans, druids, locks). after 25 major patches of balance changes, its ridiculous to say that 1.12 was when blizz final had it right and were happy

"never intend to be a tanking class" is stupid; why have half your specs be unplayable? furthermore, druids and paladins were reworked to be raid tanks when resources allowed, ie in the first xpac

Shamans "work fine" on just about any private server. I am not saying they don't.

However there are minor things that are off, damage scaling on certain spells, things not procing as frequently as they should (or too often) etc.

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>half your specs be unplayable

Reminder raids are only a small percentage of the game.

Found the furry

Actually taur is the better druid as uncontested tps means windfury means melee groups will turn a boss into dust. Warr will still be better on fights with a fear though.

not an argument

It's dead, Jim.

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i hope they nerf the mace. wouldn't want anyone's feelings getting hurt in pvp :3c

Classic is also a reconstruction that won't be a 1:1 mirror and the leaked boss health numbers show that it is functionally easier than pservers raidwise. Every negative you have listed is either guesswork, wrong or an over exaggeration and it really just sounds like you're trying to damage control the pointless moneygrab that is Classic by demonising the obvious free alternatives

Doesn't matter to me either way, I'm not getting Classic and I strongly advise anyone else in this thread feeling nostalgic or curious to dodge a bullet and avoid Classic too.

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Is there any census data for the big ass private servers?

Want to know which is the least made Shaman race / gender combination but also because I want to see how much different it is now compared to 2004 when literally nobody played Troll.

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im gonna play a dwarf/undead priest :^)

i'm guessing tauren female

Then that was fairly disingenuous to claim that you "couldn't get the shaman experience" on a pserver eh? I smell shill

Cool, me too.

They did the opposite, high to low transfers. I remember because I was on a low pop server and we revolted against the transfers. They were forever ostracized.

There better be an uproar about this until we get it back. We will not stand for reddit changes in classic.

the strat is to tank up through mc/bwl until you get your thunderfury then pass MT to your boy the feral druid who can out threat you even now while you dw

That's complete bullshit, as much as I'd love to play on a megaserver, I know I will have to deal with only 3~5k pop.

Mathewmattosis isn't going to like this.

>We're genuinely excited for more shit from blizzard
>why yes I do shill for free. How could you tell

Again, it wont matter.
NA players will all migrate save very very few.
The meme of "lol only poor people play on private servers" will become reality for better or worse.
1:1 mirror is impossible, not even sure what that fucking means.
I'm not damage controlling, i could give a fuck what you do with your time. Your own personal reasons for not wanting to play are valid, user.
But you're delusional if you think you wont be playing with mainly chinks and russians.
If it "didn't matter" to you, you wouldn't be accusing me of white knighting actiblizz. I'm only telling some common sense, not trying to push you.
And i suppose i should assume autism since you JO to video game pixels but whatever.

Fuck you. Still gonna roll an orc warrior. Try and stop me faggot +5 axe skill + endurance is just too good

Sadly the only shills on Yea Forums are 'counter shills'

>no The Nicker
>probably going to have it as Kodobane's head instead of Barak's head

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This is actually a beautiful photograph

>this is the same company that lost the source code for their own game then got it back thanks to some redditor who got lucky at a garage sale
why are you making shit up?
The initial "lol we dont have it" was mis-interpreted to be generous, and a fib if not. They never lost anything, anyone with even 10 minutes in an actual company with backups and version control knew that already.
There was no redditor at a garage sale.
They may or may not fuck up classic but whatever you're saying isn't accurate.

Just want to know 2 facts.

Is vanilla f2p?
Do i need to purchase it?

Thanks in advance.

He's probably talking about starcraft source code cd, that happened, but as for wow, yeah, they though they've lost it for a while, but then they found it in a backup of a backup.

You don't have to purchase anything, but you will be required to pay monthly subscription of $15 to play it.

It comes with a WoW sub, so $15 a month. From what we know you don't need to own BfA or anything.

15$ no upfront fee. you will have access to vanilla and 2nd most recent xpac on retail

If you compare Yea Forums to other boards, except Yea Forums, you'll notice that grammar, wording and general sentence structure is very poor. Basically the perfect recipe for constant console wars and nothing else.

Glad I left this place a long time ago. WoW classic kindled my interest, but damn, forgot how many retards existed in this place.

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So with updated gear we'll see 20 man MC and 8 man onyxia

>We will not stand for reddit changes in classic.
Who is this "we"? Who do you think is going to be playing classic?
Do you also think that you'll be allowed to be "toxic" in barrens chat?

ok

what the most faggot combination of race and class?

it's just pixels it's just pixels it's just pixels Jesus give me strength

How deep is too deep? Just mana tide? 10% increased healing from purification?

>nu-blizzard shit (ie: everything from vanilla WoW onwards)
>actual games
here's your (You)

Undead Rogue

Whats the point of a sub-fee?
Nowadays they cannot use the excuse of maintaining the servers as back then, yet they still wanna charge ppl for 15$ a month just because they need to keep this shit alive.
Fuck it desu.

And that's why classic needs heroic and mythic as a phase 7, step up the challenge for overgeared bored players.

take your heroic and mythic and shove them up your neo-vagina please, my man.

Female dwarf priest.

human paladin/mage

Male Blood Elf paladin. But luckily they don't exist.

>ppl

Lurk at least 3 more years before posting again

Because nobody is fucking entitled to a free game, keeps most of the botters away too, personally i'd hate it to be free.

You know it's happening and you're just mad about it ;)

>There are 131 posters in this thread.
shill more wowtards.

and transmog

What was the lore reason for the Blood elves joining the horde again? Doesn't that clash with the fact that Kel'thas (their leader) is a raid boss that the players kill? inb4 "it was corruption"

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No, fuck that, that's my line in the sand, everyone will look like a clown and they will like it.

Every troll shaman Ive known has been a huge fag

That makes no sense though, the outcome generated by bots in p2p games is very high since you can get an amount of money that allows you to purchase a subscription to it. Making better and more eficient bots for the sole purpose of flooding the market.
You have plenty of examples in Runescape and WoW.

So they can make profit off a possibly lucrative source of income.

Fem Tauren Druid AKA 'I'm here to mother the raid and have no sense of humor'

>everyones a shill but me
>t. a very obvious shill
nice, sure convinced me faggot.

Sylvanas was a former ranger-general of Quel'Thalas and literally died trying to protect it from the Scourge.
Which is bad writing because Silvermoon shouldn't even exist after what happened in WC3, unless for some reason the Burning Legion was really strict wartime discipline and left half the city unscathed as it wasn't a military target.

>spending 150$/year on a 15 year old game

Adjusting for inflation they could charge 20 dollars instead. So it's actually cheaper to play today.

Stop being poor.

That opens up for the question ; Why would the Forsaken join the horde? I guess because otherwise we wouldn't be able to play as skelingtons.

Sounds like RL's gf, utterly useless, bitches about every drop that doesn't go to her, nowhere to be seen on dps or heal meters, afk 90% of the time, dies to every boss, school's everyone on everything in chat, goes full ghetto gorilla a moment someone criticize her behavior, yep, the faggiest combo for sure.

>paying homeposting shills on Yea Forums while laying off mainstream marketing people

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This is obvious, but then see Unless you live out of WoW, being a boter or literally not playing another game, is just not worth your time & money.

>Stop being poor.

I don´t consider my financial situation as poor. I don´t mind spending 100 quit on a CE whenever i want or go out on my days off, but wasting that money on a 15 y/o product is bollocks.

>Want to buy a spoon
>Oops spoons were invented 600 years ago can't buy those

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Sylvie went shopping for allies, only the Tauren called back.

what game should i play while waiting for classic? im thinking rift

night elf anything
human female anything
gnome male warrior/rogue
undead warrior
gnome female anything

Pewdiepie was right.

If you are suggesting that something as basic as cuttlery is on the same level as a 15 y/o game, that only serves for the purpose of entertainment, you are probably the target audience that Blizzard is looking for.
I hope you have fun with it.

Seems like there's a big lack of community on Horde side Northdale. A bunch of asocial players and Hunter spergs overleveled running around. Almost nobody throwing buffs out or grouping.

Post your Classic+ Wish list
>Quel'Thalas
>Zul'Aman
>Hyjal
>Grim Batol
>Stormwind Sewers 5-man with poisoned water-supply questline and Crocolisk final boss

Sylvanas killing Garithos and his men (the remnant of the Alliance in Lorderon) foreclosed her allying with the Alliance in the rest of the Eastern Kingdoms

Night elf priest for alliance.
Fem tauren druid for horde.

I was simply applying your own logic
>Product was made 15 years ago
>Therefore i must not purchase it
Let's take another ludicrous application of your logic
>This tennis racket was crafted 20 years ago
>Therefore i may not purchase it even if it's perfectly functional. I must not play tennis with it for it is 20 years old

>this is what the players in wow were willing to risk bans for

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I feel lucky with the guild girls I've had in the past.
>Fem Orc shammie healslut who went enhancement in Wrath and even took over as RL to lead us to H25 LK, talk about a character arc
>Female belf priest who was an IRL big titty goth GF with a sexy NZ lisp
>Fem tauren balance druid who was a big fat momma from Texas with a bitchin' sense of humor

Only real problem was near the end of MoP when we get a fem belf holydin with an atrociously annoying french-canadian accent but I pretty much quit raiding after SoO so it's whatever.

trolls have far and away the best PvE racials, you retard.

You are most likely strawmaning the point, or maybe you are not that smart.
>Product was made 15 years ago
>Was sustained because of the tedious ways of maintaining the community modding, forums & servers for +1 million players
>The patching, improvement in the code, in-game mechanics, updates and further expansions were sustained like this as well
Thus, with our technology, we do not require to keep this bussiness model.

Since you like spoons i´ll give you this example.
>Your Ikea spoon is only 0.2£
>It ´so cheap to make and deliver that it isn´t considered as an expense
>A handcrafted silver spoon is around 5-20£, depending on the amount of silver used
Since it´s a handcrafted product with a good quality material i´m not bothered to spend 15.8£ more on it. Even when it´s, as you said, 600 y/o.

Undead Rogue tied with Human Female Warriors

I was a very big WC3 fan but I never got to playing WoW.

is the difference between Nu-WoW and vanilla really big??

Ahh, now he begins to see the downfall of publicly traded companies. Once you're beholden to investors, aka vampiric grubbing dipshits, merely maintaining healthy and astounding but constant levels of cash coming in is insufficient. You need quarterly growth. Every three months, you need more income. It is the legal requirement of being public, and everything else is sacrificed to the golden calf that is the quarterly report.

One is the most casual MMO know to man and the other is even worse.

They're literally almost unrecognizable.

vanilla wow is actually an mmo

>More bosses with class-unique mechanics or range-tank phases
>More 5-man questlines like the 0.5 dungeon set
>Grim Batol as the 20-man version of BRD/UBRS with multiple tiers, a hidden Trogg city, shit like that
>Kael'Thas coming through the Dark Portal as a major event to retake the Sunwell, stays neutral though slightly favors the Alliance
>Dual-Spec introduced as a major class milestone, would require a massive gold investment in addition to an epic-length questline on par with the Hunter/Priest ones
>Level cap being increased in such a way as to not invalidate the existing world, somehow?

I read your post 5 times and can't discern what point you're trying to make, either i'm dumb or you are just typing out random sentences. Your point seems to be criticism of the "business model"? Whatever that means. As if a monthly subscription can ever become an outdated concept. As for the spoon comparison you made, it just seems very rational to pay more money for the silver spoon, i guess i have to agree.
My point still stands though, that a product doesn't become worse just because it's old (unless its physical materials actually deteriorated with the passing of time). So a gold ring for example, will be equally valuable even after 1000 years.

Vanilla is a RPG, Retail is an action game.

>action game
If it's an action game, it's the equivalent of one with auto mode enabled

>publicly traded companies

Yeah its basically an anti-human system. You have a board of srock-holders who's sole purpose is to line their own pockets. The idea of one of the stock-holders sacrificing his life to save the company is completely laughable, instead the whole purpose is to:
>Plunder the customers as fast as possible
>Scuttle the company (and the other shareholders)
>Run away with the money
Sure is a nice system, right.

>here we see an jokaero walking with a sister inquisitor during their break on a paradise planet.
>its said that the sister murdered 3 cultists before this photograph was taken

and my axe

Have fun on fights where the tanks get feared without a tank with Berserker Range or a priest with Fear Ward. You'll also have a much tougher time on some fights/strats without a BoP to make up for the lack of Shield Wall.

Why can't Yea Forums just let people enjoy things. ,

>Come into thread
>More then half the thread is one dude attacking everyone calling him a retard

It's amazing how one dude can make a stupid shitpost version of a popular thread attempt to "btfo" people but in the end look like a massive asshurt sperg.

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yeah, it is. play it

I didn't understand it either. I was the guy posting about the inflation.

>Nu-WoW
Nearly all content has like four versions of it from Story Mode to Very Easy to Easy to Medium.
Nearly all content will teleport you to an instanced area to do said content and then teleport you back to where you were when it's done.
Huge emphasis on solo content despite it being an MMO, company considers grinding low droprate mounts/pets/cosmetics in a zero-difficulty environment to be worthwhile content.
NPCS won't shut up, game is constantly popping new windows and dialogue boxes up on your screen to try and keep you from losing interest.
Social interaction is heavily minimized, client-side programs handle most of the grouping.
Game will just phase/teleport people onto different servers to avoid crowding, if you join a world boss pug 39 people will suddenly phase into existence around you and kill the boss for you.
Community is horribly entitled and venomous because the game cultivates a feeling that other players are just getting in your way of doing your daily/weekly grind. Plus since 90% of the content is easy-mode shit nobody wants to feel like they 'tried hard' on what's supposed to be faceroll so everyone phones it in.
Entire game scales content to match the power of your equipment so you never feel much growth, getting better gear ultimately just makes it so you can carry the lazy players more efficiently.
Classes all feel horribly oversimplified and homogenized because the devs love to break them down to the basics with every Expansion cycle.
Dungeons are all RUSHRUSHRUSH hallways where the goal is to get to the end as fast as possible to maximize your score.
PvP is a snoozefst due to every class becoming bloated over the years with ridiculous amounts of sustain and survival/escape tools. There is no getting 'caught out' anymore, people only die if they're dogpiled or their healer runs out of mana(or hits 50%+ dampening in Arena)

Nu WoW is not an MMO anymore. Ask any faggot who claims he plays wow to take a picture of their faction's go to capital city and they will refuse.

>faction's go to capital city
Wouldn't everyone be in Dalaran or whatever?

b-But Mr. Shekelberg said the market will regulate itself!

>Huge emphasis on solo content despite it being an MMO
That's true since vanilla tho. Game heavily punishes group play outside of the "designed" group play.

Everything else is correct but
>Nearly all content has like four versions of it from Story Mode to Very Easy to Easy to Medium.
And
>Entire game scales content to match the power of your equipment so you never feel much growth, getting better gear ultimately just makes it so you can carry the lazy players more efficiently.
PvE content can be ridiculously hard in high mythic+ and mythic raids are generally very hard as well. Also mobs scale only to a certain point. A mythic geared character can mass pull retarded amounts of normal mobs and most specs can solo 5man world mobs as well.

>all this hate for FTauren druid

Maybe going FTauren Shaman isn't the best idea.

What. Questing in a group was always the best way to level in vanilla. Especially on a pvp server.

Female druids are an abomination. So are Tauren druids overall.

Everyone likes Tauren no matter the class, as long as you aren't a moonkin. Don't let autists on v convince you otherwise.

I cant decide between priest or warlock, im fine with healing and shit

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So that is what hell is like, huh, wow.

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Priest is better in vanilla, the only advantage Warlock has is cheaper mount. Warlocks become better in TBC.

>it's okay to spend $15/month for a, 15 year old game

Sho Sho blizzard shill

Make meme specs viable with small tweaks, like mana adjustments for ele, shadow and balance, taunt for prot pal etc

Yeah, and i dont remember priests being too bad to level either. Only thing thats going to bother me is the respec cost between holy and shadow.

To be fair, is OK to pay $15/month for a game you like. Paying $15/month to the guys who killed the game you like is beyond retarded tho.

The individual skill requirement is still very low though, there is little decision making done as for 95% of the playerbase high-end PvE content will already be 'solved' by the time they get to it and at that point it's just execution or rather how fast can you gear up your carries to hit the tipping point.
I'd also argue that M+ fails simply due to being but a speedrun, it's not a question of the content being difficult but rather how you shave a few seconds off or how many cooldowns you want to stack at certain points.

Yeah Priests are great at leveling, wands and one dot do all the work, they never take damage and don't have to drink.

>A handcrafted silver spoon is around 5-20£, depending on the amount of silver used
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN SILVER SPOON IN HAND

Btw alliance are faggots who don't even have a cool aircraft into to the STVietnam

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I would pay that to play a good game for say, 6 months of my life. It's half of my monthly gym fee and like 1/20 of my rent. Which is not much

>tfw I know if I play Shaman I'll end up as some horrendous keybind + Mouse playstyle

It's not like I can keep all those fucking totems bound.

>To be fair, is OK to pay $15/month for a game you like
I think I went a week where I just logged on to talk to my friends cause I was too busy to actually play

Ouch, you just made me question my decision to play Alliance. Grom'gol is just that comfy.

Human/Orc are the tryhard races, they are both best melee dps and orcs are also best pvp race for most classes
Undead players are le epic pvp gankers
Dwarf is a legit class, they have the best priests and the racial is good for rogues/hunters in pvp. So yeah often times tryhards (sometimes kids though)
Nelf/Tauren comment is only correct if they are druids, otherwise they can be legit players, many nelf warriors ive seen are pretty good, nelf rogues usually aren't though
Trolls are easygoing players as their racials are the worst (exception is troll mage or troll shaman in pve) but gnomes aren't easygoing players, gnomes have the best pvp racials on alliance side

>tfw you get ganked after spending 3 minutes soloing King Bangalash down to 10% hp
I AIN'T NO FORTUNATE ONE NO NO NO

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Not true, warlocks are fucking based, especially with good gear
Warlock for dps and cc, priest for support/heals, both are cool classes

cope

Gnome mages were such insufferably elitists back in Vanilla.

Warlocks are shit until Naxx when everyone gets bored with vanilla anyway.

I'll be trying Shaman for the first time in Vanilla, never played a support class before.
My first time leveling through Kalimdor too.
So excited!

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It's either $15/month to the fucks who currently own the publishing rights, or deal with the never ending cycle of private servers being shut down and GM drama.

>Warlocks are shit until Naxx

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Literally worse mages and shardbots until Naxx, not even debatable

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>>/vg/

Casters are bad dps in mc/bwl but in aq40/naxx (or in aq20/zg) they are good dps, that includes both mages and warlocks (and no warlocks arent worse than mages in pve)
Also warlocks are sick in pvp with some gear, t3 warlocks destroy everything but even with t1/t2 they are ballin
Stop being retarded

Played Mage for almost ten years, want to try Warlock but I only like affli which won't be doable in raids due to buff limit and souls farm sounds like a pain in the ass what do?

>classic thread
>most of the "fans" are eager to prove they never played retail
Nostbabs are always comedy gold.

You don't need to bring the most optimal DPS for raids until late AQ anyway, and that's right when warlocks start becoming valuable. They're completely fine. The fact that blow up late game and even start to overtake rogues is just a bonus.

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Releasing WoW Classic the week after Shadowbrings:
Smart idea?
Or stupid idea?

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So literally shitty mages until Naxx like I said.

smart, i can enjoy my expac with less wowfugees

>another FFXIV expansion
Who even cares at this point? Now if they were releasing FFXI Classic, that'd be a different story

There's so much that could be done properly, where do I start?
>ALL areas of Azeroth that are in the "fog of war" become accessible (except Pandaria because it's not canon)
>Gilneas
>Kul'Tiras
>Mount Hyjal
>Western Tirisfal
>Zone between Elwynn and Dun Morogh
>Broken Isles
>the zone east of Burning Steppes which they just chopped off in Cata
>Quel'Danas
>Karazhan
>Uldum
>Northrend expansion

maybe
>something creative with Blood Elves other than "lol they join teh Hord"
>something logical with Forsaken other than "lol they join teh Hord"

>affli which won't be doable in raids due to buff limit
You will be able to use corruption in a 16-slot debuff setting (at least a couple warlocks will). You will also have to keep up your curse (CoE/CoS/CoR). So it's not just shadowbolt spam, there is also one dot and a curse to keep up.
>souls farm sounds like a pain
This is a meme, filling your shardbag takes like 10min, but more importantly you also get shards during raids from all mobs, I used raids to farm shards and usually ended up with more shards after the raid/instance than before so I never ever had to farm shards so this is not a problem at all

this is peak degenerate

Laying off 800 termites is what gave me hope for classic

Blizzard cares, Why else do you think they're releasing content against it?

this is your wow now

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Imagine how /comfy/ it would be if they re-made Kara for lvl 60 and released it after Naxx. It would give that orange staff a good use.

>Full priced game
It's $15 a month no initial purchase required.
>Monthly fee
Just like every MMO for the last ~20 years
>Always online
It's a game that's meant to be played with other people, lots of other people. The only way to do that is online.
>Insane grind
It's not really, most of the insane grinding is optional depending on how far you want to go.
>Lootboxes
None
>Cash shop
None
>Paid name changes
Who cares?
>No bikini armor
Yes there is
>SJW story and characters
Not in Classic so who cares
>Diversity is celebrated
Nah they had a pretty strong Alliance bias
>EXCLUSIVE to the Blizzard store
It's a Blizzard game so that's fine
>Has had 7 $40 expansions
Which aren't required for Classic
>Cost 20 irl monies to change the name of ONE character
Just pick the name you want in the first place yea? Not hard innit.

>and no warlocks arent worse than mages in pve
According to legacyplayers, the top warlocks generally do 100-150 dps less than the top mages in BWL and AQ, and several hundred less in most of Naxx. They're a head on a select few fights, but way fucking behind for the rest of it.

>You will also have to keep up your curse (CoE/CoS/CoR)
what if there's another affli in raid

Thicc Actually despiccable

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>pandaria isn't canon
welp

Blizzard is not at all confident in Classic. There's no way they can believe it can compete. They're either A) completely retarded, B) intentionally sabotaging its success, or C) desperately trying to get it out before the end of the quarter so the quarter looks less embarrassing to shareholders (which is probably also what squenix is trying to do)

>tfw friend from TBC was a tauren druid
>tfw she went full SJW in recent years
>saw an open tab on my phone that was on Yea Forums and gave me a lecture about how this site is evil

Haven't talked to her in years but damn, that was her.

You need 3 locks for the 3 curses. If you have more than that, then congrats, the extra ones don't need to use a GCD for that. Not that they can do anything else for most fights. On stuff like 4 horsies you can throw in curse of doom though.

If Blizz shareholders are unhappy they can please them by firing more people.

Your inability to understand your own points is why your ilk also don't see your blindingly obvious mental illnesses

It's because vanilla was made by twelve men with next to no resources or funds. The current wow team is overflowing with affirmative action hires. When classic releases and if it becomes a big hit, it's going to be a huge slap in the face that the old "bro club" was able to easily outperform them

>went gnome mage on elysium
>chose gnome mage because of the 5% int racial
>going troll priest on classic
>berserkering is good, priest racials are the same in PVE if not better
gnome rogue/warrior is meme tier choice though

Classic release date was set before shadowbringers was announced. No one cares about trannysimulator.

They're chinese, user.

>get human to level 14
>lush forest leveling killing bandits, bears and wolves
>go to snowy place next still great zones with 10/10 atmosphere
>trend continues onwards

>make a horde
>shit mud covered huts
>desert and more deserts for the entire 1-30 experience
>orange gets burnt into your monitor
>no shoes

Yea I'm going alliance. Self insert as human going on an adventure. Later on I get to find some night elf pussy. Feels good.

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>"Yea Forums is evil!"
>Yea Forums is essentially a free speech platform
Really makes me think.

No offense meant but if you played aq40/naxx you will understand that legacyplayer top dps charts doesn't say anything about warlocks vs mage dps
Mages have a talent called ignite which means that one mage will do a shitton of damage and the others will do pretty low damage, this means that if you have 5 mages in a raid then 1 of them will bring sick dps and the others low dps (obviously ignite might belong to different mages different fights but some mages will have ignite prio over others). If you look at the top 50 mage dps on a fight and compare that to top 50 warlock dps you will see that the top 50 mages will win the dps race pretty hard, but it's because all those 50 mages were ignite mages. For every high dps mage there is 3+ low dps mages contributing and supporting that mage's dps. If you just look at one raid at a time and look at average mage and warlock dps you will see that they have similar dps. Can't explain it better than that, tell me if I'm unclear
Well there is 3 curses and people usually don't want them as they do 0 personal dps, so signing up to use a curse is usually appreciated by the others
But sure, corruption spot is something you might have to fight over, unfortunately, but if you are top warlock dps in your raid you will most likely get it

>night elf cocks

>gnome rogue/warrior is meme tier choice
Gnome has best racials for rogue/warrior in pvp though

>Later on I get to find some night elf pussy
You had me up until this point. Miscegenation is not cool. Garithos disapproves from Valhalla.

I only played one private server (Scriptcraft 1.0) and Im pretty sure I only ever 5 manned UBRS

Am I remembering wrong or was this a thing

Westfall has great music but man it feels really bad going from beautiful Elwynn to dead dry Westfall.

depends on how much you want to shit on rogues

I assign ones that are important but less used on my num pad

shit you're right, i forgot all about rolling ignites

what a terrible thread. post your favorite tier set from vanilla. for me it's paladin tier 2.

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Oh yeah sure, make shadow priests EVEN MORE BROKEN in PvP.

>going to westfall

I'm so happy this is where the majority of alliance levelers are going to go

The fuck are you talking about?

enjoy being underleveled

UBRS was a 15 man raid that could be done with 10 people if you had to or they have some gear. I've never done UBRS w/ just 5

Corporations in general are psychopaths, possessing no morals or empathy, instead designed solely to generate profit. A publicly-traded company is like a psychopath with a dozen devils on its shoulders, each trying to maximise the psychopathy.

Rogue tier 2 ez

Shaman and Druid tier 2 are also great

doesn't know the secrets of loch modan/auberdine

Every single leveling world record on alliance went to Darkshore, completely skipping Westfall, the worst area in WoW, you retard.

>Blizzard turning all the comfy camps into metal and stone abominations
>everything they did to Orgrimmar
Was there a bigger JUST?

Brings to mind that village in South America near a Coca-Cola factory where Coca-Cola has become cheaper than drinking water and the inhabitants are dying because they drink Coca-Cola instead of water, and they even use it in their tribal rituals. Sounds like an an-cap meme but it's true. They also use Coca-Cola bottles as currency.