How do we save fire emblem

Shift away from the strategy RPG formula and become a "C"RPG instead.

Is that really the cover art? How did they go from the kino Awakening and Fates cover to this?

Start by firing everyone that worked on Three Houses.

>skirt

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Hire Hidari back.

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Kaga is a fucking hack that doesn't know how to make good videogames.

It's the eyes.

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Well for a start her posture in that image makes zero sense and could only work if her torso was being pushed far forward while still keeping her head straight, or more likely the artist just failed to correctly position her legs and neck.

Okay I'm just going to say it I think we just need to go like an XCOM route where you are some blank slate that doesn't really have any importance and you'll just make the connections naturally with nobodies no dragon people no kids no time travel just you and an oppressive force

Tear Ring Saga begs to differ.

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And yet. He's still better for FE than literally anyone else.

It seems for this artist they either make the eyes too dilated (like you just shone light in their eyes after they had sat in a cave for 30 days straight) or they're fucking pinpoint tiny so they look like they've stared into the sun for 30 days straight

What the FUCK is wrong with them

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Put them in Dragalia

Picked the fuck up. Gorgeous. Is there a limited edition? Is it good?

Yeah, I don't get it man. Maybe the better otoge artists all refused the job offer from ISIS.

Remove the fanbase or remove your interaction with it.

This, but remove all that dungeon shit and give me more supports.

The limited editions have been selling out crazy fast, good luck securing one (don't go for the US version if you do)

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>Remove the fanbase or remove your interaction with it.
wow, congratulations, FE is cancelled.

Of you mean save FE flfinancially then IS is on the right track. It looks like shit but ironic weebs and smashniggers will buy it in droves so that's all that matters.

If you're talking about quality wise that theres is one and only one person who can do that.

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might as well been nothing before the 3ds

What was the last Fire Emblem with GOOD gameplay, Yea Forums? Do not consider art style, story, characters, or graphics.

Squished eyes for sexy men
Big dilated eyes for cute boys and women
A lot of otome/yaoi artists do that

it's reality at its' finest

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I'm planning to buy it because the gameplay is interesting and I like the direction they've taken with unit/class management.
I'll pirate it in a heartbeat if they dare try another horrible DLC model[/spoiler[

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>wanting to save Fire Emblem
Let this shit series die.

>FEfags will defend this

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It doesn't need to be shit again

Looks worse than the FE/SMT crossover that was on WiiU

Is this the docked version? Switch tends to look so shit, but this looks good.

He is but Berwick Saga is better than FE and all the previous game he made

Hidari's art is great, it can't be blamed for the rest of Echoes being bad.

FE raga aren't defending this. In fact they're probably the ones who are shitting on it the most.

New Mystery

Eliwood will show up and help us any day now

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Is anyone else just tired of being angry? Reading hundreds upon hundreds of posts of constant frothing at the mouth and burning, seething rage is downright exhausting.
I honestly don't understand how any of you can enjoy this. It doesn't seem fun or therapeutic. Aren't there more important things in life?

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If you stab your eyes out it's great

Doesn't seem like anger. FE is just pure garbage it's natural to say rude things about it.

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Blazing Blade

What do we do, same feel. It all feels pointless.

This. Based and truthpilled

Fire Emblem? More like Feet Emblem.

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That game was fucking shit. It's a VN. Not a game

Banjo died so FE could get in Smash, I'm taking my vengeance.

FEfag like being angry more than playing FE
it's the only thing they do beside waifu posting

Footfaggots need to be fucking gassed.

Then why not just focus on something that you DO enjoy?

This isn't fate, user.

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Conquest and don't let any shitter crying about muh gimmicks tell you otherwise

Echoes proved that you don't need good gameplay, a good story, or good characters to impress FEfags
Just have good art and good English voice acting and they'll cream themselves over it for years

>Go from medium well anime strategy franchise to full-force waifu-bait magic high school simulator
Yeah take it out back and shoot it

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One should only enjoy good things. Bad things need to be laughed and mocked at for being pure shit and a cancer on society

There's still a barefoot loli in this game and more footsluts to come

The problem with Fire Emblem is that none of the games are particularly excellent. They are not bad, but everyone of them has flaws, and the flaws change with each game, so basically how much you like a specific game depends entirely on which characters you like and which flaws you can forgive.

How hard will 3H be shilled in FEH?

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Three Houses is already saving FE with the bold, new direction it's going in. You might even call it a 'progressive' shift.

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CQ is only good in challenge run. But those runs are better than the whole series.

>Bad things need to be laughed and mocked at for being pure shit and a cancer on society
This accomplishes literally nothing. Baseless mockery does not help creators improve, constructive criticism does.

Then why focus ONLY on the flaws while refusing to acknowledge the good points?

Fire emblem 12.

Funny becasue it's true

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>Baseless mockery does not help creators improve, constructive criticism does.
ISIS has got that for years. You think they are going to start now?

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>They are not bad
Yes they are.

>strategy
Doesn't exist in this series

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In some games in the higher difficulties it does

what shift? the games already appeal to fujoshi

No it doesnt actually

Considering Yea Forums has literally never made criticisms more constructive than "graphics are shit and the gameplay is shit," I doubt that.

This is also based on the assumption that IS/Nintendo reads Yea Forums, which is already exceedingly unlikely.

>good art and good English voice acting
If you have bad taste sure.

Yea Forums has made criticisms that aren't pure shitposting. It's just drown with all the shitposting

>Direct Kris to a mob and everything dies
>Good "gameplay"

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FEfags only like Echoes because they're the living embodiment of "old good new bad" and Echoes is a remake, technically an old game.
If 3H had good graphics and Hidari as an artist people would still look for something to complain.

>haven't played on manic and above
>anti turtle incentives everywhere
Nice try retard.

If Kris isn't insta-killing everything on highest difficulties, you're not playing it

>FEfags only like Echoes because they're the living embodiment of "old good new bad" and Echoes is a remake, technically an old game.
Not even that, it's just people looking for an excuse to shit on Awakening and Fates. It can't even be "old good new bad" because FE2 was fucking garbage compared to the other classic games.

Is this gonna be another Fates? aka subpar presentation/story/characters but good gameplay

No seriously, did the Trauma Center artist work on this?

Give it to the Echoes team

Kris can't insta-kill anything on RL but archers and mages without dying in 3 hits. This isn't 7-14

Why would you want a shit game?

I'm going to have an illicit student-teacher relationship with Edelgard!

>but good gameplay

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And everybody else dies in one hit. Kris only tanks three because s/he gets such inflated stats compared to all other units.

When shows how he can't insta-kill anything when they all go first and gangrape him with sliver weapons.

Long story short: FE12 on anything past Hard is unbalanced as all fuck, and only proves just how much the game wanks Kris by making him/her the only one who doesn't die instantly.

Go back to sprites. But it's 2019 and only indie devs are allowed to use sprites apparently.

Exactly, thats why I don't want Three Houses

I'm honestly feeling another Tellius. Pretty shit visuals and presentation, but hopefully good setting and cast at least, with the gameplay ranging around the middle, not great but not bad either.

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So when are they going to give more details on gameplay so VNfags can fuck off?

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Or you can just git gud you dumbfuck and use characters Ryan, Luke, Draug and be PP active. Oh wait FEfags hate having to think. They only want shitty VN's.

Yes you so you want a shit game like Echoes. Why are you trying to deflectm

Is there something unusually bad about the mechanics we know about in the next game?

Tellius has bad gameplay though. PoR is shit all around and RD stops being good after Part 1.

They all die instantly regardless. Kris is literally the only one who has the stats to even partially survive a single fight.

By not buying it until they do something different.

A lot of Japanese artists regardless of style do that. It's got nothing to do wit otome.

A lot of Japanese games look like shit, don't know what's different about this one

1 more hour

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Will I be able to recruit that house cat to my army?

No it's just the same autists spamming these threads

Canto was a fucking mistake

Not true at all. Actually play Lunatic mode.

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No the game will have good gameplay and people are afraid of that

No, people are complaining about the graphics because we're graphicsfags now for some reason and the art

I think the training angle could be an interesting change as long as it's not just a formalized version of Awakening grind, but somehow I doubt that's how it will work when it's a key part of the game.

The graphics do look like utter shit. That's nothing to gloss over.

Getting upset about FE graphics is pretty retarded, isn't it.

>really, really want eirika and alm
>don't want leanne at all and already have her
>really, really want roy and marth
>don't want ike at all and already have him
I am scared.

>It's okay for a game to look like bad for no reason
Are you for real?

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Everything we've learned about the gameplay has been really promising.
They're increasing the level of customization to never before seen levels, while also returning mechanics and ideas from both the old classic games, and things that worked in the recent ones.
It's looking pretty promising.

But of course if the visuals are bad then it can't be anything but doom, can it?

I'm getting Berserk vibes

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Reminder that Shadows of Valentia had absolutely amazing art but was extremely underwhelming.

I just want the medieval fantasy aesthetic back
The tone of the games is so fucked now, I can't stand the story or dialogue of Awakening/Fates.
I hate that the art direction changed to a more modern, moe/waifu style of anime instead of the older style of the GBA era as well. Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn and the DS games weren't even that bad even though the 3D looked shitty because the art direction was still really nice, and the tone was still great as well.
It sucks because you can't really say you don't like it without people saying "HURR IT WAS ALWAYS ANIME", meanwhile modern anime is just as banal as the FE games are now.
I really hope the era of heavy waifu pandering ends eventually, I miss when Japan made cool stuff instead of boring one dimensional waifus that are basically just a random assortment of different Body Sizes, Haircuts, Stock Personalities and Hair Colour. It feels like all it takes for someone to think a character is good these days is if it has 2-3 of their preferred types of those things.
>OH BOY A LOLI WITH BLUE HAIR AND A TSUNDERE PERSONALITY, THOSE ARE MY FAVOURITES! BASED! CUTE! UwU THIS IS MY WIFE SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT HER!

Getting old sucks, I miss when companies pandered to my tastes. Being slowly phased out by zoomers and their unrelatable shitty taste sucks, just slowly watching all of your favourite franchises go down in flames as they pander to newer and newer generations and things get harder and harder to enjoy as all of things you used to love about these things get removed and replaced. Can't even really have nice threads about the good old days without zoomers and autistic weebs screeching about how we apparently never liked Fire Emblem anyway or saying it was always just about the waifus, or the newest where everyone that doesn't like modern Fire Emblem games is just a smash player. Though to be fair, it is kind of obnoxious that Awakening and Fates get all of the representation in every spin off too.

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>It's okay for a game to look like bad for no reason
Are you for real? How can you have such low standards. No wonder you can slurp anything ISIS throws out

Right? Because everyone plays Fire Emblem with the full animations turned on for 60 hours instead of only the first few maps and occasionally when someone changes class.
I'm going to make an army of terrible dragon-killing muscle wizards.

>had absolutely amazing art
Sameface and and dry colors are amazing

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God that upside down guy looks so fucking stupid

I'm not saying the mechanics are bad but all of it is worthless if the maps end up being bad. Echoes has good mechanics too.

A-user, he died in FE6

>If the graphics are shit that totally means the game is automatically trash
Are you?

Echoes was using 30-year-old maps from the infancy of the genre that mostly wasted the diversity of movement, range and skill options. Their last attempt at making new maps wasn't too bad, gimmickry aside, so hopefully this time will be decent too.

I wanna get freaky with Tiki.

Why are you seriously trying to deflect to muh gameplay when you have no understanding of it? Its pretty retarded.

yawn

Conquest was allowed to have good maps because Birthright had the shit ones made for casuals.

>Though to be fair, it is kind of obnoxious that Awakening and Fates get all of the representation in every spin off too.
This is the biggest crime, its like they want to pretend that FE didn't exist before Smash Bros/Awakening/Fates

Who said that? Can FEfags stop being utter dipshits for one fucking moment? Its a objective fact playing FE kills your braincells.

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True, but even Birthright was a marked improvement on Awakening. It will be best if they realise they can make casual-friendly content without oversimplifying maps.

>Echoes has good mechanics too.
What good mechiancs? You you seriously going to lie about the game. Its worst than a SNES game in mechanical depth. Half of the game doesn't even work

Conquest stops having anti turtle incentives after half way into the game. How does it have good map design.

Yes you are fucking pathetic

Is this one really set in high school?
Sounds fucking stupid.

This furious autist sure is trying hard to get people to take him seriously.

The deflection is sad.

Huuuum it's a "military academy" thank you very much

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For many shitters Awakening was first FE game and that is the expected standard. Face it, FE is dead and bastarized version of itself, there is no coming back due to sales.

Greedy bitch, no matter the hair color.

>mfw they revealed it was gonna be another "super duper special teenager best friends in highschool" setting

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This but unironically. Anyone conflating this with high school should kill themselves

And people pretend Awakening didn't kill the series

How many of your high school teachers did you address as "professor" you fucking moron?

It didn't, it may be shit but it still saved the series.
Now go pretend Holy War is a good game or something.

kill it for the love of wario

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>mfw its literally just a higschool dating sim with minor FE elements tacked on since no one cares about the gameplay anyway now

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Is that like how you pretend you're fooling anyone?

Ike's games killed the series, and the Marth remakes were made to hide the death until Awakening revived its corpse as an unholy abomination.

just like Trails of Cold Steel

Even ayyimao eyes won't stop anna from being cute.

>Awakeningfags telling anyone to play shipping sim cancer
Try killing yourself you delusional fuck

Fooling what?

>since no one cares about the gameplay anyway now
Your lack of self awareness is amazing.

The corpse is still dead. It shouldn't be be called a state of living.

Kill yourself doomposter.
Absolutely nothing resembling "highschool dating sim" shit has been shown off, meanwhile Famtisu just ran an article giving us a look at numerous GAMEPLAY elements. Fuck you and every retarded son of a bitch who can't rub two brain cells together.

He's right though.

we don't. someone will probably make a spiritual successor that's actually good. there's one in the works right now but i have no idea if it'll be worth it or not.

Exactly. It's Zombie Fire Emblem, essentially.

So how's the AI and level design?

>See anime school setting
>Instantly say the game is going to be shit
>Completely ignore the gameplay
Yes, he sure is.

>moving goalposts that far that abruptly
Careful, user. You might hurt yourself.

Canto isn't even the worst Tellius has to offer

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We don't know yet. That has absolutely nothing to do with my previous post anyway you dumb cunt. Just give me your address so I can kill you within the week.

Everything you said was projection and false

Stop releasing it on only one console.
Stop doing it on ones that nobody owns like the switch.

What goalposts? You said gameplay elements. Now show me the level design and AI. Oh wait!

I'm not that user, and that's not a counter to what he said. Gameplay elements doesn't mean anything you personally demand.

Yeah, it definitely explains why female Byleth looks so much weirder than male but both look fine in fanart (upside-down triangle proportions and armor choices aside). I don't have them on hand, but made some quick eye edits when the meltdown was in full force and it really is the combination of tiny pupils and flat-colored irises. Even keeping the little pupils but adding a lazy-ass smudgy gradient looked better, but not nearly as much as scaling up the pupils with or without solid color. Giant skull-consuming anime eyes just don't work when the pupils don't grow, too.

Yes it does. You said gameplay elements. Actually in fact all we got was some minor mechanical details. You are braindead, but makes sense. You pretend FE is good.

>no gameplay elements doesn't mean things emphasizing gameplay
Okay.

(You)

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Not an argument. Not like FEtards can manage something that simple.

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>getting this btfo
Funny to is when it's revealed to be busted as usual since ISIS can't make games worth a shit you will go back on your word.

Yeah it sure was.
It's okay you don't have to pretend, we all know FEfags don't care about gameplay as long as the story is a 6/10.

Hey you are the one wasting your time. I just keep winning. You aren't even discussing anything now.

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Yes it was. Thanks for agreeing you are a dipshit.

See you in 15 mins

Class changing and "skyrending pulse" (as SF calls it) are quite definitively gameplay elements. Nice job trying to redefine knowledge on the fly to serve your non-argument.

Is that mean to suggest you're inviting mods to look at the garbage you posted?

The whole TRPG genre in general is pretty fucking dead

Those are mechanics. Simple ones already in the series yes. But what about the AI and level design? Actual important things.

No of course now. So they can warn you for spamming for being so asshurt. Look at that, you can't even stay on topic. Typical FEtard.

It's still alive though.

You probably shouldn't go around announcing reports.

Where was that?

>someone will probably make a spiritual successor that's actually good

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Mechanics are just the rules, which defines gameplay. Again, what I've highlighted earlier is literally elements of the overall gameplay. You are clinically retarded.

Mechanics are gameplay, along side level design and AI. All we gotten was basic info over stuff we already knew about sure. But that's not the issue here. You then proceed to get asshurt since apparently you don't know what the word numerous gameplay means and forgot that something as basic as level design and AI exists
>we got simple gameplay info!
>oh okay that's cool, but what about this specific part of the gameplay? Anything about that
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT!!!!!!! IT SOMEHOW DOESN'T FALL INTO GAMEPLAY!!!!!!! STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS
Just stop. You will reply for the sake of replying because you are desperate. But just stop.

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>still very obviously fishing for replies
>tells him to stop
I chuckled.

You may not know this being new to Yea Forums but there's a abilty called replying when you click a post number.

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>460092878
Your bullshit won't work on me, you retarded motherfucker. It's far too late to feign innocence now as if you haven't been purposely baiting this whole time.
>Mechanics are gameplay, along side level design and AI.
If you want to put mechanics under the gameplay umbrella with impunity, that's fine. I'll gladly meet you on that point.
>All we gotten was basic info over stuff we already knew about sure.
Now you're already telling lies. The famitsu article gave us lots of various info on certain mechanics we did not know, including how raising weapon levels unlocks skills, how classes are no longer locked to specific weapons, and how advanced classes beyond Noble/Commoner come with unique class skills.
>But that's not the issue here.
That was the issue. That was the very specific issue I brought up here to contrast doomposter assumptions with the actual reality of the game.
>You then proceed to get asshurt since apparently you don't know what the word numerous gameplay means and forgot that something as basic as level design and AI exists
I'm buttmad because I saw through your trolling immediately. I know what gameplay is, you claim you know what gameplay is, we've now established that the new info in famitsu is part of gameplay, therefore we have gameplay elements. Level design and AI have nothing to do with anything important at the moment. They are further aspects of gameplay yes, but you know damn well that you weren't inquiring on those in earnest. It was plainly obvious that you were trying to paint the famitsu information as not-gameplay because you want the false narrative that there's nothing about Three Houses to look forward to.
And now you're pretending that you're an honest good boy who's being lashed out at for no reason.

Kill yourself you little shitstain.

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>If you want to put mechanics under the gameplay....
Just fucking stop are you actually trying to say mechiancs aren't gameplay? Only fucking FEtards would try and spin this shit.
>including how raising weapon levels unlocks skills
Truth
>how classes are no longer locked to specific weapons
You already noticed this from the trailer.
>how advanced classes beyond Noble/Commoner come with unique class skills
This is just from previous games.
>That was the issue. That was the very specific issue I brought up here # to contrast doomposter assumptions with the actual reality of the game
Yes, and upon stating that where are these other two things, becasue gameplay is not just mechanics, instead of doing the smart thing and backing down from a fact you chimp out and keep shitposting about nothing since you can't handle reality.
>I'm buttmad because I saw through your trolling immediately
What trolling? The shit you made up in your head? Yeah must be.
>I know what gameplay is...
And then after proceeding to get asked about other gameplay elements that are far more important right now, you chimp out
>Level design and AI have nothing to do with anything important at the moment
They do, because they are gameplay and far more important to a FE game in the first place since this series lacks mechiancal depth. And as much as ISIS is going to try and change that, it's going to be busted in the first place.
>They are further aspects of gameplay yes, but you know damn well that you weren't inquiring on those in earnest
Actually I am, because we already knew that pointless shit you try to spout
>It was plainly obvious...
No 3H made have good gameplay. It made not. Having flat empty level design with dipshit AI won't make it good. Having 15 Cavs field without gatekeeping and limits won't be either.
>And now you're pretending...
That's truth. There was no lashing. Only you
>Kill yourself you little shitstain.
No need im not a fefag

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>babycakes
Based

Just give up already

Kaga should have gave up at FE1

>Just fucking stop are you actually trying to say mechiancs aren't gameplay? Only fucking FEtards would try and spin this shit.
You must be one of thse FEtards then considering you explicitly divorced the concepts here >You already noticed this from the trailer.
All we knew is that the defacto trainee class could use anything, we didn't know this was true for advanced classes.
>This is just from previous games.
Not an argument. It's still FE16 gameplay. I've never tried to put "new" gameplay on display.
>Yes, and upon stating that where are these other two things, becasue gameplay is not just mechanics, instead of doing the smart thing and backing down from a fact you chimp out and keep shitposting about nothing since you can't handle reality.
The reality is that I haven't said a single incorrect thing.
>What trolling? The shit you made up in your head? Yeah must be.
I've already caught your logical fallacies in this post and you just keep going at it, huh.
>And then after proceeding to get asked about other gameplay elements that are far more important right now, you chimp out
This is literally you moving goalposts again, the perceived "importance" of various gameplay elements never held significance to my post >They do, because they are gameplay and far more important to a FE game in the first place blahblah
Obviously I was speaking within the context of this thread, smoothbrain. But you'll never accept that and just attack me for the strawman, I know.
>Actually I am, because we already knew that pointless shit you try to spout
I already told you your trolling is transparent, feel free to stop any day now.
>No 3H made have good gameplay. It made not. Having flat empty level design with dipshit AI won't make it good. Having 15 Cavs field without gatekeeping and limits won't be either.
You know I don't care for doomposting.
>No need im not a fefag
Guess you're off to an early grave then after all!

Tear Ring Saga is a big pile of crap slmost as lousy as disgaea or Hoshigami. I've seen randomly generated skirmishes in Sacred Stones, Awakening and Fates with better enemy formations.

I've no doubt Kaga designed Gaiden's crap maps because his post IS games have the same feel/quality and the design of FE improved right after he left. Good riddance

Have we/will we ever get a reason for why the dragons have degenerated?

The Fire Emblem series has always suffered from having very simplistic, streamlined game mechanics:

>outside of a few scripted instances, enemies don't charge you unless you're in their immediate attack range, so you can slowly crawl forward at your leisure and pick off enemies one by one
>in some cases, enemies don't react even when shooting them through a wall with an archer. They just stand there motionless in the several turns it takes to finish them off with ranged attacks.
>bosses similarly don't pose a threat, because they remain glued to the gate/throne they're guarding, so you can just have all your characters surround them and take potshots at them.
>flying units have to move around ground-based enemy units. Why can't they fly over them like they do over obstacles?
>archers can only fire from 1 square away. That means they're essentially not really archers, but just a different flavor of melee attack.
>even magic functions exactly the same as physical attacks. I have yet to see any spell that does anything other than deal single-target damage. And for some reason spellbooks weigh as much as a steel spear.
>some things are just mindless busywork, like having to use healers to constantly cure 1 point of damage just to ensure they don't fall behind xp-wise. Oh, and apparently you have to wait 50 billion turns for units to unlock support conversation. Are these games designed for autists?
>the games consists mostly of dead space, maps are massive but because encounters only happen in close quarters (even archers have a laughably short range), most of your time is just spent mindlessly moving units forward rather than making interesting decisions

And there have been what, 20+ Fire Emblem games by now? Yet there's barely any significant evolution of the formula. There are turn-based series that have had more changes from one game to the next, than Fire Emblem has had in 20+ titles.

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Shut up.

>even magic functions exactly the same as physical attacks. I have yet to see any spell that does anything other than deal single-target damage. And for some reason spellbooks weigh as much as a steel spear.
I wish magic was better. It could easily be so much better. Three Houses is lumping Anima and Dark magic as two weapon types under the same skill tree, so maybe one or the other will have actual new uses beyond doing damage with different colored particle effects.

The second half of Conquest punishes you for stalling/turtling with reinforcements(22,28) and map effects(20, 24).

I don't see how you'd say the other games have better incentives unless you count a village or chest with an item being plundered in map that otherwise does nothing to stop you playing at a snails pace as good chapter design.

>You must be...
None those were divorced. Are you dumb? First, was talking about gameplay elements as whole and all that's talked about was some some mechanics
Second was saying that it is wrong to not consider level design and AI under gameplay
Three, was talking about it as a whole again. How could you possibly think they were divorced? Are you seriously this mentally ill.
>All we knew is that the...
Why would the advance class be worse than the base class? Use your fucking brain dude. That is simple to figure, piece those dying braincells in your head retard
>Not an argument
Yes it is. You really don't think they wouldn't bring a system back when it was reused over and over? That was stuff we already knew. What about forging? How will that work? What are gambits or formations in depth? You didn't even bring up that Mila's turnwheel cancer is in.
>The reality is that I haven't said a single incorrect thing
What does that have to do with not chimping out and being wrong? Do you need know what you are replying to?
>This is literally you moving goalposts
There are none. After stating your post, another one comes along asking another question "so what about the AI and level design"
Then proceed to watch the ESL/Late-nightposter chimp out
>Obviously I was speaking within the context of this thread
Again that has nothing to do with anything and so was every single person here. Just stop you don't need debunk or argue the point. It's a fact in the first place that level design is more important than anything else in FE game
>I already...
What trolling? The shit you made up in your head? Yeah must be.
>You know I don't care for doomposting
How does that change that 3H may have good gameplay, it may not? Most FE play like utter shit so it seems like you are looking for a a excuse to eat shit freely and not be called out for it. Always have doubts.
>Guess you're off
Not a shit eating FEcuck so no.
Don't bother replying. You won't be able to debunk anything.

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Kaga didn't really do anything to Gaiden but TRS is shit. Level design in Gaiden are just datepacks.

Why? The art looks like shit. Get over your garbage taste

Are you sure because a lot of TRS maps just seem recycled Gaiden maps. Like the ship battles have the exact same kind of layouts and TRS features maps where Cantors clog up the map with summoned monsters.

No they don't. 22 can be turtled freely. There's nothing making you rush. The reinforcements are tile based which are even worse. 28 does have a anti-turtle incentive, that's true. 20 doesn't one, no ninja goes after chests and the same is true for 24 which is as bad as Awakening/Echoes maps. Its a flat plain. You can just hurdle up and move at a snails pace. There's nothing stopping you and it's not like Marx/Camilla/Kamui can actually die.
>I don't see how you'd say the other games have better incentives unless you count a village or chest with an item being plundered in map that otherwise does nothing to stop you playing at a snails pace as good chapter design
They were always forcing you to rush. Take a look at games like 3/12, 11, 6. They make you hurry and rush your ass with side objectives like villages, recruitment, missable items, with powerful enemies blocking progress etc. CQ does this but sparely. 6, 7, 9, 11, 14, 15, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27. That's pretty bad

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>also, though the game does feature nearly twice as many maps, due to space limitations, some are just maps that are recycled from before. I sort of regret that.
Sorry I was wrong. He did designs the maps before turning them into datapacks.

Conquest had the best gameplay and map design of the whole series (but the worst story)

It doesn't

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the guy who tweeted this probably thought that the only people who played FE are massive waifufags and he thinks that there are literally 0 women that play FE

>shut it down and come back never
FTFY

Having yaoi thought looking at their characters has nothing to do with artstyle, user

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did you even watch the cutscenes from Echoes, those were even worse since those ones also ran at 2 fps

I don't see the problem

Radiant Dawn has the best gameplay and map design of the whole series (but the worst unit availability)

>best gameplay and map design of the whole series
*blocks your path*

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You're right its story is better than Gaiden/Echoes, Blazing Sword and Radiant Dawn.

>flying units have to move around ground-based enemy units. Why can't they fly over them like they do over obstacles?
This so dumb and annoying. I wish it could happen because it's realistic and makes the level design and unit placement more interesting.

I know I'm right. It doesn't have the best level design and gameplay

Now this is bait

RD had the best map design ?
-Chapter when Fiona joins of Part 1
-Every single map of Part 2
-Elincia's Gambit
-Both swamp maps of Part 3
-Desert map of part 4

>No they don't. 22 can be turtled freely.

Sorry I meant 21with the Faceless and Stoneborn. 20 will have the wind mess you up if you keep your units balled together.

24 incentivises quick action because the movement boosts will let the swarm of fliers easily reach and kill the likes of Azura or Elise from a great distance or gang up on a single unit. Theres no way you can turtle that since the AI is smart enough to determine which units a group of them can kill.

>Desert map of part 4
Just said all of 4

by not buying this piece of trash game and forcing Nintendo to put effort into the next one
or they let the series die, but then at least it won't devolve any further

Make it 2D sprites again.

I'm not even a graphicsfag, but the awful grass texture and utter lack of shadows except for the weak shadows on that nearby group of people makes it look bad. I'm sure a graphicsfag could point out more issues.

Is this game any good?

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I swear most of you are retarded and never played FE. You just shit on it because you heard it's a cool thing to do.

Fire Emblem is saving itself.
A shame the visuals aren't better though. Imagine if the game had looked like the pre-rendered cutscenes.

Learn to play Etrian Odyssey and let Fire Emblem die.

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>Just Breed
H-have sex??

21 does yeah. The wind in 20 doesn't make you rust in fact it actually makes you want to move at all slow pace since you can safely gain large amounts of experience that way and push them close or near you. You can very much turtle chapter 24. Turtling is much easier to do as again you can pick up large amounts of exp by going in a Phalanx position and killing everything that comes close, and nothing is reinforcing the player with a side objective. It's actually harder to do the 1-2 turn Camilla trick where she insta-kills Hinkoa since that requires precise unit placement. CQ isn't that much of a PP-oriented game outside of a couple chapters in the early and paralouges (which are great)
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FE just isn't good

For me, it's New Mystery of the Emblem ~Heroes of Light and Shadow~, Chapter 8: Soulful Bridge

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Pure kino. Even if it's a reused map

>ogre battle/tactic is gone
>no more FF tactics
>front mission became a metal gear clone
>shining force is buried
FE is all i got bruh

>That ground texture

Nice cat

Wait till this games comes out
Then buy it to support Nintendo so they can make more good games like this
Enjoy game

I don't see a problem

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IS IT ME OR THE UI LOOKS LIKE TOTAL SHIT ???????

More cute girls
Less fags and old/ugly hags

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We can't. The original creator left Nintendo after Thracia 776. I look at stuff like Mirage Sessions #FE, or the skinshipping in Fire Emblem if and wonder what Fire Emblem would be like today if he were still working on them.

dumb ears