Seems Persona 5 The Royal is gonna have some censorship. How predictable and disappointing

That's hilarious I'm fine with that change

As long as Sony fixes Kasumi's horny bullshit outfit and makes it fit her character I don't give a fuck what else they change.

That literally makes 0 fucking sense. If that happens I'm going to laugh.

>they're just claiming to have fucking eyes
>talks about the goblet
>"Mashima"
Yeah, no you're just as much of a retard as OP.

What are you doing with your life, lad. False flagging on an anonymous website fulfills you? Are you that pathetic? You're gonna die with nothing worth showing.

So Shadow Kamoshida would be lusting over a himbo Mashima?

Neat.

BING BING

that was close
I almost considered getting the most expensive edition of the game

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Im glad I played it on PS3
Im done with sony forever, If I miss on some games so be it

>have an opinion different from the Yea Forums groupthink
>f-falseflag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay upsetti

bros is based teacher a closet homo?

Are people just forgetting that he already loses the cup in the second phase of the fight

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What if Mashima gets raped instead of Ann's cute friend?

You knew he was fucking the boys too, Hebephiliacs don't give a fuck.

okay but I remember Ann being there the whole time

She wasn't

Ballerina leotards exist you sped.
>b-but men get off on it!
They also like swimsuits, you're going to censor those too?

Mandela effect bro

Can someone just explain what happened in the fight so we can settle this once and for all.
Sony is fucking out of their minds but let's not buy into bullshit.

>Nincels backpedaling to "it'll be censored meme"
Sony is only enforcing that shit on 3rd rate anime games. You think they're going to make Rockstar Games abide to whatever retarded moral clauses or to the franchise that people solely bought Vitas for?

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Yes, she was. She's in Kamoshida's wine glass for the whole fight.

His name is Mishima you fucks. Also this Stop falling for shitposts from literal whos

It's literally nothing, the fight starts with the cup which he can use to regen health so you have to break the cup to stop him healing, people are just reacting over nothing.

Which you fucking break and is absent for most of the fight, am I the only one in this thread who has actually played the game.

fuck off console warrior
sony censoring DMC5 means they'll censor whatever they please

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>Which you fucking break and is absent for most of the fight, am I the only one in this thread who has actually played the game
Apparently fucking not because you don't break his wine glass at all and you only break the trophy with the female legs poking out of it you absolutely retarded sperg.

I wouldn't call censorship just yet.
Realistically, they're just trying to change as much as they can about the game to really drive the idea that it's different from the original.
Why keep Ann when you can have Mishima instead for the sake of making minor changes.

Yeah she's there but the lighting from the area and the way he holds it makes it look like she's not there.

For real, this is gonna make the fujos go nuts, all these future doujins of kamoshida sexually bullying mishima, oh my lord this is gonna be ...... i don't have words

>this cope from Snoylets
Imagine denying something that can be seen in the trailer because "they misspelled by one letter!"
Like beaten housewives, be sure to cover up before the breadwinner gets home.

Dmc5 got uncensored in the end

You mean the scene they fixed later? Find something new to bitch about.

The first boss doesnt even show up in the trailer, what the fuck is this onions boy talking about, and why the fuck would they show getting a trophy in a trailer

tendie pls... embarrassing!

>find something new
the new nep game
its not like they don't censor things often

They literally uncensored it you absolute fucking retard

Is she saved?
Will she get retconned into a virgin?
Does Mishima get raped instead?

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>P5 will be censored
>P5 DSN will be censored
>CFB will be censored
>P5R will be censored
when will they learn?

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In one of his attacks he takes a drink from his wine glass, and bimbo Ann kinda just goes into his mouth like a cardboard cutout. So she definitely always has an obvious presence in the fight.

>Tfw i'm playing p5 and literally 2 hours ago completed his palace
holy shit you must feel like an absolute retard right now

Wrong, it's a generic pair of legs, not Ann's model.

IF don't wanna suck that Sony dick like Atlus did for Catherine FB which got out fine, Capcom eventually did for DMC5 so they got it uncensored.

They also censored some of the dungeons, and futabas moms death, and they censored several new characters into the game. They'll probably censor some more personas into the game to accomodate the new confidants, ontop of censoring more events into the game.

Isnt mishima replacing the generic slaves that hit you with vollyballs?

So what I'm hearing is Kamo will BL Mishima?
Nice

Learn about what? This is literally the only time anyone has ever said anything about it potentially being censored.

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Compared to Persona Nep is small time. I'm not denying that there isn't some censorship being enforced, but it gets used against games like Nep or Senran Kagura. Sony isn't going to shit on one of their big name JRPGs.

Yumei are mentioned a gorillion times in the trailer
Watch all of this ''censorship'' actually be dream fulfillment

>Catherine FB which got out fine
They had to self censor with that though.

>Futaba’s mom death

Are you fucking retarded?

>"Mashima"
Kill yourself Futaba you literal dwarf.
Mishima is the leader of the PT and will likely have to face his Shadow and save Shiho by himself this time around.

No, but apparently you are. I ironically mentioned changes and replaced the word "change" with "censored" to get my point across that people think whenever something in the game gets changed it's automatically censorship. The whole fucking palace changed, is it now censored because you have a hookshot and travel through it?

Isn't Cognitive Ann supposed to be inside the cup he's holding in the upper left?

fuck off Mishima

The wine and the light from the ceiling makes it look like she's not there when's she's there.

My bad, i really thought you were a retarded nincel saying any sort of change was censorship.

But we don't see the full cup, maybe she's still there.

No. He eats from the trophy, which is full of generic legs. He DRINKS from the fucking wine glass and it's very fucking clearly Ann he's drinking for the whole fight.

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Yes, it's hard to see but it's certainly her

Catherine Full Body has no censorship.

I think you have worse things to worry about if you're unironically saying "nincel"

Remember, everytime there’s a faggot crying about some literal who visual novel were you molest 12 year olds on Yea Forums, there’s a seething Nintendo fanatic behind it.

I’ve count at least 10 Erics on Nintendo’s side judging from their posting style, 24/7 on Yea Forums being butthurt about Sony.

That's why I said the wine is covering her because Atlus made it when he holds in a certain way, the wine makes it look like she's not there since they used a darker red for the wine.

No it's not.
They said P5 was going to be censored because they put the ESRB over tiddies. It wasn't.
They said the dancing game spinoff was going to be censored because of the sexy dances. It wasn't.
They said Catherine Full Body was going to be censored. It wasn't.
Now they're saying Royal will be censored. And just like before, they have zero evidence for it.

Yes because they self censored before hand.

Have sex.

just bite that bullet

It's not censored in the way that most games are, they did as much as they could before sony said "no" and then made the game around that

This

what did they change?

>game changes major story elements from the original version
>SNOY CENSORSHIP!!!
>game keeps everything the same
>ENJOY YOUR REHASH!!!
holy shit, could switchfags be any more bitter about not getting a port after six years of begging?

What was in the original version of Catherine that has been removed in Full Body?

Actual brain matter on Yea Forums?
What the fuck?!

We don't know, the devs said in an interview "we went as deep as we could without having to put lights on stuff to censor it"
I didn't hear any complaints about Catherine vanilla stuff being removed so it's probably just the extra stuff that they were making

>They said P5 was going to be censored because they put the ESRB over tiddies. It wasn't.
No one ever said that the ESRB covering the tits meant the game would be censored. Period.
>They said the dancing game spinoff was going to be censored because of the sexy dances. It wasn't.
Again never happened.
>They said Catherine Full Body was going to be censored. It wasn't.
That we know Atlus had to work actually had to work around Sony's censorship policies meaning they altered plans during development.

Nothing?
Did it not occur to you that they changed the initial plans they had for the new route?

are you people really not worried at all
how do you have so much trust in a company that keeps fucking you over

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I'm just going to stop buying games, and for every game I don't buy I'm going to call up Playstation support and tell them why.

We likely will never know because it was changed during development as opposed to after.

>Catherine FB wasn't censored so we'll pretend it was censored by the devs themselves
You guys are pathetic.

I don't get it, what's different?

okay but if a dev actually said
then its censorship

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Why'd they change the death of Futaba's mom anyway? It also looks like Joker isn't locked up on New Year's in this version. Have they ever changed this much of the story in a rerelease before?

>No one ever said that the ESRB covering the tits meant the game would be censored. Period.
Yes they did. Repeatedly. A lot of people in the general believed it.
>Again never happened.
Again, you are wrong. Lefties were freaking out because the game had underage girls dressed in sexy SS-style uniforms and censorship was a huge concern.
>That we know Atlus had to work actually had to work around Sony's censorship policies meaning they altered plans during development.
Even if that is true, and there's nothing to support it, 'working around' policies is not censorship, especially at that stage in development. Westerners are getting the same game that Japs are getting.

FUCK YOU NINCEL EAT A DICK YOU'LL NEVER GET PERSONA!!!!
Now that that's out of the way it's because the people, or rather person, who made this thread doesn't care for the games on Sony systems as much as Sony themselves hence why usually you'll see a lot of shitposting about sales and them making profit in response to legitimate criticism. Technically any censorship that happens doesn't affect them.

cope some more.

gematsu.com/2018/11/atlus-responds-to-concerns-over-sony-regulations-affecting-catherine-full-body
Sure it wasn't censoring after development like most games, but ATLUS wasn't able to do as much as they wanted with FullBody

>how do you have so much trust in a company that keeps fucking you over
Because it's P5, not Senran Kagura. They're not going to outright tell AAA publishers to censor their games their liking and lose out to the competition.

Because you can't see the top of the glass, some people are thinking that the fake Ann isn't in the glass anymore.

it's obvious that this is going to be p5's "eternal punishment" - a direct sequel in an alternate universe, not a rehash.
what's happening here is that switch beggars are seething about not getting the port they begged for, so every single change they made will be spun as "snoy censorship." meanwhile, the only confirmed persona censorship is nintendo censoring joker's dlc pack in smash.

>and there's nothing to support it
We've had solid evidence for a while
gematsu.com/2018/11/atlus-responds-to-concerns-over-sony-regulations-affecting-catherine-full-body

>A: “As for mysterious lights being in Catherine: Full Body…”
>A: “They are…” (to be continued)
>A: “…not included!” (We went as far as we could go without the light shining.)

> 'working around' policies is not censorship
That's exactly what censorship is as it's suppressing their ideas potential or otherwise due to it possibly being offensive.

>Using badly translated Japanese to English as proof
LOL

censorship != changes in story

>Atlus
>AAA
On what planet? Plus Sony doesn't care if they have a solid audience, remember this is the company that just threw away their dedicated fanbase.

isn't that literally what happened with DMC5 until the backlash was too much and they fixed it

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Are you an idiot?
Badly translated or not, which it isn't, the entire conversation was about Sony's recent censorship. It would take a hell of a lot of retranslating to lose that context.

>I don't like your proof so it's not proof
ok

Wait did they actually uncensor Lady’s ass?

Never played P2 or EP. How much of P2's base game was shared by EP? Royal seems to have a lot of the same dungeons but the layouts have even changed.

no
just Trish's ass

That is not censorship. Censorship is retroactive alteration to conform to standards.
All media that gets published has to follow certain standards. Movies are allowed to have a certain amount of cursing/violence/nudity depending on the desired rating, and these movies are made with those standards in mind. The same is true for games.

ATLUS is why the shita even sold. Pretty sure that alone has earned them leeway with Sony.

>can't see top of glass so fake ann might be there or not
>mishima replaces the faceless students that throw volleyballs at you
>may be set in the point after the cup is destroyed
big think

>Censorship is retroactive alteration to conform to standards.
No it isn't, censorship is any kind of suppression of ideas whether it's retroactive or not.

>ATLUS is why the shita even sold.
Which it didn't.
Also Atlus themselves barely made any games for it because they were focusing on P5 and the 3DS, most of the non ports were just published by them and came from devs like Vanillaware

>Snoyboys literally saying that it's okay that their company treats them like children
>At least it's only on 'anime games' (see: one of Sony's flagship products at the last few E3s)

Oh yeah I'm really convinced that you're 'owning', here.

>Ask Sony what the limit of what they can put in the game is
>Make the game
>The game is now "censored"
Unless you have actual proof they removed content, you're talking out your ass.

p2ep reuses a lot of assets, but it'll make sense if you play the duology.

Kamoshida here is saying "You're late, Mishima! You bumbling moron!", which makes it sound like he was late to the battle i.e. this is part way through the fight (probably around the "Have to guard" part), after he already ate Shadow Ann.

>The same is true for games
except Mature games now can't have Mature content

>All media that gets published has to follow certain standards
Yeah, that's what the ESRB/PEGI/CERO are for. Sony has no reason to personally evaluate games to conform to their standards

>Shio gets retconned into being a virgin
>Now qualifies to be eligable for Joker's cock
>But that doesn't matter because Sae is romancable now and so there's no reason to romance anyone but Sae

I'm not sure if this timeline is cursed, or blessed?

>that makes 0 fucking sense
t. people that didn't play the game

>>Ask Sony
Do you have proof that they asked Sony?

Censorship is suppression of thought, words and actions.
They wanted to do something, Sony set the limits and ATLUS had to abide by them instead of being able to do what they wanted.
No content was removed because they weren't able to add that content in the first place

the funny part is that this sounds a lot like nintendo's new censorship policy for the switch, and people praise them for it.
>Instead of finishing the game and then localizing the finished content, Nintendo flies in localization experts to Japan every two months to take a look at the work and suggest changes to the content
slator.com/features/japanese-game-fans-to-nintendo-we-want-translated-not-localized-games/

ESRB/PEGI/CERO censors every game. Why aren't you outraged about that?

I wouldn't put it past them

By that logic every single game or book or movie widely published has been censored.

You're moving goalposts and changing the definition of words. The current discussion is about censorship by Western publishers of Japanese games. So far this has not happened to Atlus, and there is no sign of it happening any time soon.

>No content was removed because they weren't able to add that content in the first place
So it's not censorship then.

Really?
You haven't seen a single person who was pissed off about the censorship CERO forced in Smash despite the fact that it was constantly being talked about by Smash players?

I played the game, it doesn't make sense for Kamoshida to be a faggot if they're replacing Ann.

>censorship
>the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.

If ATLUS wasn't able to make the game how they wanted because Sony didn't let them, its censorship

>citation needed

And Sony will want different games to have specific ratings so that they can sell better. And that means those games have to have content that fits those standards while appealing to specific audiences. So of course they're going to have Atlus make a game that fits the criteria they need in order to sell more copies. That isn't censorship.

So you did play the game, you're just fucking retarded

The combination of Human Morgana and Wakaba being alive makes me think there's going to be some shenanigans with seeing the "ideal worlds" from our party members.

Persona 5, one of the most named JRPGs isn't going to get censored no matter how many times you autistically spam your Burqa edits of Kasumi. Seethe some more nincel.

>and changing the definition of words.
Says the person who thinks that all censorship has to be a retroactive change.
That has never been the case ever.

They decided what to put in the game after talking to Sony so all their ideas were within the rules. No censorship.

That's not the meaning of Mishima being there at all Idiot, Kamoshida used him to find info on P5MC so he's obviously gonna use him as a tool in the boss fight

>Make a movie
>"Hey can my PG-13 capeshit movie have porn scenes in them?"
>"No"
>"CENSOOOORSHIIIIIIIIIIIP!"

>And Sony will want different games to have specific ratings so that they can sell better.
Funny because they would have sold better to the intended audience unchanged. That said we know that it has absolutely nothing to do with sales and what's "accepted".
> So of course they're going to have Atlus make a game that fits the criteria they need in order to sell more copies
Which is censorship. That's suppressing what Atlus wants to put within the game because it doesn't suit Sony's standards.

>any parts of books, films, news, etc.
Atlus's ideas for Full Body do not fit that criteria.

A movie script can include a sex scene. That sex scene can change depending on the intended rating for the movie. It can simply be a chaste kiss with a fade to black. It can be making out under the sheets. It can have partial nudity. It can have full nudity. And all of those scenes fit the author's original intent to have a sex scene.

Now let's say the movie gets made with a fully nude sex scene. The movie is finished. And then people who were not involved in the making of the movie decide to replace that scene with a fade to black. That is censorship. It is retroactively changing something to fit a different set of standards.

That's a nice false equivalence you got there, don't know how that has anything to do with the argument at hand.
Catherine is already rated M, it's not meant for kids or teens so why would they censor stuff like nudity?

You're comparing a videogame development process with a movie

>Persona 5, one of the most named JRPGs isn't going to get censored
Then why has almost every other JRPG on your platform been censored?
>Seethe some more nincel.
Seethe about what? these superior games I get to play while you're stuck with the playskool version?

>How predictable and disappointing.
Literally who weeb on some shitty ass forums pulling things outta his fat ass with no evidence to back up his claims.
Stay on suicidewatch switchfags

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>The movie is finished. And then people who were not involved in the making of the movie decide to replace that scene with a fade to black. That is censorship. It is retroactively changing something to fit a different set of standards.
Can you prove something like Catherine had full JAV nude scenes or are you going to continue to talk out of your ass?

>these superior games I get to play
lol

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they're literally censoring Full Body.
dualshockers.com/catherine-full-body-ps4-atlus-censor/
Snoyboys cannot into google.

>And then people who were not involved in the making of the movie decide to replace that scene with a fade to black
Then you'd have to prove the creators didn't just cut that out for time constraint reasons. If you can't then by your logic that isn't censorship because all you have to go on is that it happened before release.

That is what we're discussing in this thread. Retroactive changes to games that have already been made.

Every published piece of media is "censored" because it has to abide by certain standards. Every time you get dressed you're "censoring" yourself.

>Funny because they would have sold better to the intended audience unchanged
Which is why P5 was unchanged from the original version. And DSN, and Catherine FB.

>That's suppressing what Atlus wants to put within the game because it doesn't suit Sony's standards.
No. Nothing is being suppressed. There is nothing to suggest that FB doesn't match Atlus's original vision for the game.

>It is retroactively changing something to fit a different set of standards.
So working around a set of arbitrary and vague standards that aren't enforced by a governing body isn't?

I hope someone is capping these because I have never seen anyone legitimately defend censorship like this.

Did it? Haven't replayed it, but in the cutscene viewer thumbnail Trish still has her ass laser lense flared.

Are this people stupid or something? The trophy and the legs inside are there only at the start of the fight.
Ann doesn't fight, she is inside the glass, Mishima isn't replacing her, he is an addition for the fight.

>You're comparing a videogame development process with a movie
Yes I am.

Of course it didn't. Therefore, no censorship occurred.
My point exactly.

>Are these people stupid?
Yes

>[citation needed]

yes

I don't get it. How is it better if Mishima is the one who gets badtouched?

She said they'll censor it if the person who said that scene is transphobic was right. Except now we know he wasn't right, there was no transphobia in that scene, so it won't be censored.

it looks like they are putting the anime changes of the persona 5 animation btw in the anime they also censored/rushed the swatting see through scene of futa palace and the beach close ups

Did you bump your head falling off that slippery slope

>Which is why P5 was unchanged from the original version. And DSN, and Catherine FB.
>Catherine FB
You've been told by several anons now that Catherine during development was self censored by Atlus themselves to conform to Sony's standards.

>There is nothing to suggest that FB doesn't match Atlus's original vision for the game.
Except for the fact that they said that they only went as far as they could meaning they intended to go further but couldn't.

>posting articles made based on some retard who made up that bullshit
Based retard

I'm more worried about the serious subject matter being censored. How can you write about the issues or even sell the reason to hate Kamoshida if what he does becomes 4kids one piece levels of stupid

>My point exactly.
You do realise that your point now is that censorship doesn't happen period if it happens before release, right?

They put restrictions on what video game devs can create. According to the faggots in this thread, that's censorship.

Nincels apparently can't read either.

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>Female rape bad
>Male rape good
You cannot make this shit up, holy keke.

No, they just rate it.
Another thing is asking to remove content for no reason when the competition doesn't.

>So working around a set of arbitrary and vague standards that aren't enforced by a governing body isn't?
No full nudity, limited partial nudity. What is so "arbitrary and vague" about that?
Keep in mind literally every TV/movie/book publisher works the same way.

>I hope someone is capping these because I have never seen anyone legitimately defend censorship like this.
OH NO someone might make fun of me on reddit! OH NO NO NO NONONO this will surely make me backtrack all my arguments!

Imagine letting nincels who spend all day on Yea Forums convince you “Sony censorship” is a real issue.

i'm so glad the underaged console warriors decided to show up

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>Resetera fag hoping game isn't censored
How long until ban?

Except that they literally say they have no guidelines at all.

Except they don't. They just give out ratings according to the content within the game so if you make a porn game and they rate it AO then you're still free to sell it despite the fact that retailers won't put it in store.
Sony on the other hand is pulling out chunks of gameplay and denying releases of games that don't conform to their standards, that's censorship whether or not it happens before or after development.

So you’re saying it was Nintendo who censored Mythra in Smash and Joker All-Out attack, not CERO?

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ding dong diddly cope

If a dev makes a game and the ESRB rates it as AO, the devs are forced to change it to be able to sell it in most stores/storefronts. So the ESRB does make devs censor games.

THIS TREAD IS BAIT
Nothing to see here folks, move along

>You've been told by several anons now that Catherine during development was self censored by Atlus themselves to conform to Sony's standards.

>stub my toe
>hurts like a motherfucker
>remember there is a little kid nearby
>manage to yell out 'fudge' instead of 'fuck'
>realized I censored myself
>commit sudoku out of shame for supporting censorship

Only if you think a game doesn't exist before release.

After that Catherine FB bullshit started on Resetera, i doubt that. Making shit up is more plausible than ever.

It was CERO because Nintendo wouldn't be able to have the rating they wanted without doing so but they weren't being prevented from selling it.

>the thread people were bitching about that change, that just evolved into her having her garter on both legs, and wearing black thighhighs
this is the future i chose

That's literally not fault of the ESRB.
And GOG, Steam and GamersGate sell AO-rated games.

bases gaf poster

>If a dev makes a game and the ESRB rates it as AO, the devs are forced to change it to be able to sell it in most stores/storefronts
Retailers not selling AO games has nothing to do with the ESRB.

Look OP, i get that you’re still dissapointed P5 isn’t coming to the Switch, but shitposting on Yea Forums and shilling for Nintendo for free isn’t going to get you the game, stop being poor and buy a PS4 with P5R when it comes out.

So you’re saying Nintendo censored Smash so it could have the lowest possibly rating to sell more copies?

>"If the game I wanted doesn't come to the Switch then it's censored trash"
t. nincels

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>That's literally not fault of the ESRB.
They could have M as the highest rating then this problem wouldn't exist. Easy.

Absolute fucking retard

I have a ps4
not getting a ps5 though since its clear sony fucking hates me

Persona is a 3rd rate anime game
Atlus are not Rockstar

see I don't see why you're going over this again because you've already been told what's the fault of the rating's board and what's the fault of the company.

Persona is literally one of the most named jrpgs next to final fantasy. SMT on the other hand...

See, this is what I mean when I said that we wouldn't be able to talk about Persona ever again. Normally this would be something to raise legitimate concern over but now every single time someone wants to raise awareness about it or even suggest that Sony might censor something we're met with
>LOL NOT ON SWITCH
Or some other absolutely ignorant or irrelevant post to quash the conversation.

See

Thanks for presenting no arguments and going over what's been answered.
You were already straight up told it was CERO.

There’s nothing to discuss here, the thread was always room temperature IQ bait, the fact you’re trying to play this card now is laughable.

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CERO can’t prevent Nintendo from releasing a game.

>See, this is what I mean when I said that we wouldn't be able to talk about Persona ever again
If Nincels wanted talk about censorship, they could've bitched about this 2 years ago when Ryuji's shoes got changed because of the korean symbol, but that doesn't generate (Yous) like the idea Sony is going to Burqa the shit out of the Kasumi character because Nincels frequent at ResetERA now.

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>ITT: Commies defending actions of (probably) a Sony Interactive executive that has skeletons in the closet

>"DIDN'T WANT IT ANYWAY! UR GAME WILL BE CENSORED!"

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>one of the most named jrpgs
what does that even mean

However retailers in Japan can in a similar way to retailers in the west banning AO games.

For whatever its worth it's still censored in Europe and yes I have the most recent patches installed

literal mindless robots

>self-imposed changes are equal now to console manufacturers cutting features of games that they don't own

>multiple people blow you out with facts
>"f-fucking sheeple..."

What you're talking about is the golden goblet that he starts the fight with; it's loaded with featureless female legs that he pulls out with a fork and eats to regain health. You break it in order to stop him from healing.
The wine glass is a part of the entire fight and serves to buff his attack power when he slurps Ann out of it and then spits her back in.
Come on user, last time I played this game was back when it first launched and even I remember these details.

>There’s nothing to discuss here
Of course there is, Kamoshida's arc involves the attempted suicide of a minor because she was molested.
Do you know the reason why content was removed from Senran and why Omega Labyrinth's localization was cancelled? Here's a tip, I just said it.

you don't care about censorship. you're going to call every change atlus makes to the story in p5r "snoy censorship" because you're mad about not getting a port. meanwhile, if it was another p4g instead, you'd call it a "full-price rehash" instead.

>Persona is literally one of the most named jrpgs
what the fuck does that mean user

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Look retard, at least try to hide the fact you didn’t actually play Persona 5.
Or maybe you’re just that stupid and don’t actually remember how the boss fight was?

That it is as mainstream as Final Fantasy.

not even close lmao

t. FFXV-kun

>because you're mad about not getting a port
Yeah because I'm totally mad about not getting a port.

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Nice job borrowing your friend's copy

At almost one o' clock at night?

you know what really feels amazing? when p5r comes out next year, i'm going to buy it, i'm going to play it, and i'm going to enjoy it like i did with every other game in the series. and no amount of seething, coping, and spinning from the failed port-beggars is ever going to change my mind.
and when smtv finally comes out on the switch u a decade from now, i'll be playing that too.

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Yeah he seems pretty reliable. I wish I had close friends like that.

Well this post didn't age well.

Your only proof of the game being censored is a post from ResetERA. No early jap release copy. No development insider, but a fucking post on a forum that's been known to have lied about Catherine FB. You for real bitch?

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Nobody is buying your shit Nincel, try again later, it’s not like you have anything to play on your sad tablet anyway.

MOST NAMED RPG is not a fact, it doesn't even make sense

Oh! I get to say it this time.
COPE

>I'm gonna pay $60 for DLC and enjoy it

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>"totally own the game!"
>has the boss fight on one of his tabs

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I really hope they don't censor this game
i regret having a ps4

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this post made me think
if its censored we'll know early because its releasing in japan first
my hopes are restored

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A musou port

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Nincels will continue to make the argument that it'll be censored for the western release.

Ann is inside the cup we just can't see her from this side, also the trophy is destroyed duh

you mean like nintendo fans did with mario kart 8 deluxe (highest-selling game on the switch)?

>inb4
>Uncensored in the JP version
>People take it as a good sign and buy the localized version
>censored everything for the worldwide release

holy kek I can imagine this happening and the entire internet melting down

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Cope harder nincel.

i dont even have a switch but alright

But it's not DLC, it's an overhaul of the whole game

Oh wow, a post on resetera that everyone stopped talking about within the first five minutes of the conversation, that totally shuts down concerns of Sony's censorship.
Look, it's a fact that Sony has been censoring games and it's also a fact that the first arc has a plot point directly relating to themes Sony has censored in other games.

God forbid I want to actually talk about a game I liked and the very real chance it may be censored.

That's because I was also talking here about if she wa in the cup. Do you expect me to remember every detail about a game I played a few months ago?

Sure thing.

k

You need to cope harder, better luck next time.

>Changing story elements of the game is censorship
Jesus Christ this guy is retarded

Cope about what?
I have PS4 and Persona 5 along with 1, 3 and 4 on their respective systems.

Have you played any of these games?

you're a console warrior with blind brand loyalty to nintendo. stop fronting like you care about censorship. you actively root for sony's games to get censored so you can shitpost about it.

Are they safe bros?

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but shadow ann wasn't at his side in the original?

Have you, dear resetranny?

The answer to this is simple release SMT V because I assume Nintendo wouldn't censor that

>Thinking these kind of people play the game

Nobody bought a Wii U

>Oh wow, a post on resetera that everyone stopped talking about within the first five minutes of the conversation
There's no point in discussing this further considering all we know of the game is from a trailer and few images so I'm just going to copy and paste my post again until you can provide something more concrete than a ResetERA post.

Your only proof of the game being censored is a post from ResetERA. No early jap release copy. No development insider, but a fucking post on a forum that's been known to have lied about Catherine FB. You for real bitch?

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>shitendo niggers need to spread false rumors
atlus has never censored anything ever, the game has minors attempting to kill themselves.the only time they did censor was because of nintendo for #FE LMAO

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This thread and most of the posts talking about censorship are made by Nintendofags butthurt about Persona 5 not coming to the platform, don’t take this thread seriously, OP was already proven wrong multiple times.

i did. feels good being an idort and not missing out on the better version of the switch.

>you're a console warrior with blind brand loyalty to nintendo.
I don't even own a Nintendo system except my old GBA. If anything I have more brand loyalty for Sony

>you actively root for sony's games to get censored
So I'm rooting for it because I don't want it to be?

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Noooooooooooooo!!! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING SONY WAS SUPPOSE TO SPARE PERSONA

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>There's no point in discussing this further considering all we know of the game is from a trailer and few images so I'm just going to copy and paste my post again until you can provide something more concrete than a ResetERA post.
What, never heard of speculation?
It's a thing we used to do before they were twisted into ideas of begging and losing exclusives. Also despite not owning any modern Nintendo systems I did the exact same thing when Nintendo censored their games on the Wii U and 3DS.
The question here now is why are you attempting to quash discussion? There's no logical reason behind it because it's not exactly harming anything because like you said we have no proof.

Attempts to push the censorship scare are pointless in the case of PSR as the game will be out in Japan long before it hits the west and all the bullshit will be debunked then.

They are literally going to censor fully body

They censored DMC lately too, jesus your retarded.

It’s amazing seeing Atlus get shit from twitter trannies because Kasumi shows some skin AND from resetera Nintendo trannies for not releasing it on the Switch.

>They are literally going to censor fully body
Full body don't even have shit to censor
>They censored DMC lately too, jesus your retarded.
It was uncensored, also some pc versions had the same shit

>What, never heard of speculation?
it's not "speculation." it's the new coping mechanism you guys are using because "wait for them to announce the port at e3!" would just sound silly at this point.

There’s literally nothing to discuss, everything in OPs image is wrong.

>They are literally going to censor fully body
Claim with no proof.
>They censored DMC lately too
The censorship was removed.

>Some people literally believing a ResetERA Poster

So are people going to believe everything they fucking hear? Hell, we haven't seen footage of the english version yet and we don't even know if the game is going to be censored at all.

I guess the term "Don't believe everything you hear" doesn't exist anymore.

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how are you still surprised by nintendo fans believing everything they read on the internet in a post-grinch-leak world?

>The question here now is why are you attempting to quash discussion? There's no logical reason behind it because it's not exactly harming anything because like you said we have no proof.
There was no discussion worth having from the get-go considering OP's ResetERA account is just factually wrong rather deliberately or being a genuine retard. Rather you and OP are retards or you never really played the game and just wanted to stir shit from the get-go.

>it's the new coping mechanism you guys are using because "wait for them to announce the port at e3!"
I literally have the game and the system to play it on. I even have a Vita and regularly use remote play.
I do not desire a port.
I have never desired a port.

>it's not "speculation."
Of course it's speculation. The definition of it forming a theory without firm evidence.
You're denying any speculation of potential censorship because you're offended by the idea of someone painting Sony as a bad guy, ironically you're attempting to censor this discussion.

Boy this seems strangely familiar. Like I said this a few years ago.

OP's image was always irrelevant.

It's amazing how delusional Yea Forums is.

Of course sony going to censor it, people think all this negative posting has something to do with fucking brand wars lmao, people would be way more excited if sony HQ wasn't fucking located in californa.

But whatever I guess, as long as It's a exclusive to playstaiton, sonyfags could care less even if it butchered to kingdom come.

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anything i could read more about this?

stop using the word sonyfag jesus christ stop the console wars I JUST WANT TO PLAY VIDEOGAMES AND TALK ABOUT THEM IS THAT SO BAD

This thread is literally speculation. The very epitome of the word.

>I literally have the game and the system to play it on.
no, you borrowed the game from a friend in a futile attempt to make people think you weren't a nintendo fan console-war shitposting.

seething nincel/snoyfag/xbot/mustard
COPE

>considering OP's ResetERA account is just factually wrong
see The OP is irrelevant to the discussion and no one took it as fact.

translation: "fuck, i'm so mad it didn't get ported! god, i hope it's censored so i can shitpost about it on Yea Forums!"

Right, I just hopped out at midnight to my friend who is currently overseas to borrow his copy of Persona that he doesn't own because he's a fighting game nut.

WHAT CONSOLE AM I ALLOWED TO PLAY GAMES ON THEN user

Mobile

Hey here's a fun game, how about everyone who's been called a "nincel" in this thread post their copy of Persona 5?

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Cope.

im gonna be legitimately honest. i haven't played a videogame in like 8 years. only watched games on youtube.

i just love stirring shit on Yea Forums and laughing at it.

just become a mobilechad

Based

I have a PS4 and Switch, but I'm not a brainlet who ignoring sony been censoring countless japanese games even including DMC.

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I'm actually worried about the musho too.

Unless Atlus does two different versions, I guess Q2 is the only Persona game coming up that won't be censored.

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I don't think Sony personally censored DMC as much as Capcom preemptively censored it.
Which brings about a whole new problem if that really is the case

ITT: Nintenbabies upset that P5R isn't coming to their shitty system and Snoytards upset that their weebshit is all getting censored now.

Meanwhile Xbros never cared about your cringey weeb shit in the first place, and are just enjoying fun games.

>Nintenbabies
>people who literally aren't present in the thread are upset
>they are showing this by being concerned about games they own and like
The idiocy of Sonyfags will never cease to amaze me.

if that's true then why aren't you enjoying those sweet xbox multiplats right now?

>OP's bait failed, but trust these anons instead!
fuck off.

PS4 was a mistake.

They better not censor my nigga Mara.

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>but trust these anons instead!
Who said you should trust speculation?

Why have we come full circle back to puritan ideological tripe?

that dickhead will never see it comin

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I have both why would I care. You literally sound like a 12-year-old.

Do you just believe everything you see on the internet or something? We're literally just talking about Sony's censorship and what it could do not trying to pass it off as a fact.

yeah, It's totally not getting censored.

remember when fire emblem fags were saying the petting mini games would still be in fates and we were all being paranoid? LMAO

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>Sonyfags get the true Persona game
>Coping Nincels get another 3DS low budget spin-off

Feels like 2013 again, kek.

>censoring persona 5, an already family friendly game

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If the original P5 is on sale right now without any censorship I don't see why they would censor the rerelease.

...

That’s just shitposting.

No one tell this user that they chose Etrian for the basis because it's closer to the originals

>when fire emblem fags were saying the petting mini games would still be in fates and we
ATLUS doesn't have Treehouse and a stripper translating their games.

>why is a company whose headquarters is stationed in the liberal capital of the world full of gays and trannies censoring my boobies?
Rhetoric question.

we'll get sunglasses Mara

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So let me get this right. The games story got completely changed and morons think that means the game got censored even though the game isn't even out yet? Is Yea Forums really that stupid?

Since when is it shitposting to talk normally?
I'm not going HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SEETHING SONYFAGS PLAYING CENSORED BABY GAMES FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!
I'm just talking about their potential censorship you fucking idiot.

Yeah, now they had SJW's from sony staff hovering over their backs.

Totally better right?

Based

>Yeah, now they had SJW's from sony staff hovering over their backs.
That wasn't the case for P5 because remember how all the SJWs said it was "horribly" translated?" while parading FE Fates as the definitive way to localize a game

>Nintendo, however, confirmed to the Wall Street Journal that they won’t be censoring or regulating third-party games. In the article they explain…

>“Nintendo said it doesn’t regulate sexual content beyond requiring game makers to obtain a rating from national bodies. It said its game systems allow parents to restrict content based on the rating. Microsoft declined to comment.”

Keep seething snoyfags, you bought the wrong console.

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Cope harder while i play P5R exclusively on my PS4, if you seethe real hard you might even fool yourself into thinking PQ2 isn’t a low effort rehash.

No.
The first arc of the game is about a teacher who frequently abuses his students with one of them almost commiting suicide because it's implied he raped or at the very least molested her. This is a very important motivator for one of the party members.
Sony has recently been censoring games where the common theme has been underaged "molestation".

Are you starting to see why people are getting a little worried?

You are literally just shitposting.

Do you just call everything that offends you shitposting?

How are you going to play P5R?

we don't need to.
we got SMT V.

>Cope harder while i play P5R exclusively on my PS4
Oh great just like everyone else here.
You know, you were already BTFO'd on that point but hey, enjoy playing P5R while I play both.

I’m sorry but talking about possible censorship when there’s 0 indication of of it is just shitposting.

Who the fuck is we?
Fuck off you shitposting little cunt, you don't even have a Switch.

Why would I want to play a censored game?

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lmao, how much did it hurt you when Persona 5 Scramble appeared on the screen? Did you cry?

>when there’s 0 indication
Really. 0 indication?
When Sony has been censoring games that have the EXACT same topic as that arc? That in and of itself should be waving some red flags in your head.

Can’t wait to emulate it on my PC at a higher resolution.

Because of people like this.

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>buying a $60 DLC, uncensored or otherwise
Dumb paypigs.

The entire games story has been changed from what we've seen in the trailers.
>The first arc of the game is about a teacher who frequently abuses his students with one of them almost commiting suicide because it's implied he raped or at the very least molested her. This is a very important motivator for one of the party members.
In Persona 5. Give me proof that this is the case in Persona 5 The Royal. Oh right, you can't.

Say 1 BIG game they censored

>playing a censored """remaster""" of a game that's not even 4 years old yet
I'll just keep my memories of the real game, thanks.

why do they play games they don't like

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>NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP SHITTING ON R IT TOTALLY COMING UNCENSORED SONY WOULDN'T DO US LIKE THAT BROS

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Cope.

Why does it have to be a big game when the fact that they've censored it is big enough?
Plus Persona isn't a big release, it's a niche game for a niche audience.

>why do they play games they don't like
>Y'all Persona 5 fans
They don't

I love how the fanboys will ignore the Catherine fuckery Sony did.
Not to mention the extra layer of "correction" done by the localization if they don't play it in JP.

Persona is one of their main exclusives today, also Persona is almost on the normie audience today

Seething.

Catherine is not even out faggot

they don't have a rebuttal
it'll just be deflections, user

lmao nigga what are you doing

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>Are you starting to see why people are getting a little worried?
we already see wh people are """worried""": because they're salty it didn't get ported.
fact is, if the arc was kept the exact same as the first game, the narrative would be "enjoy your $60 rehash!" instead. you can't even refute this because you know i'm right.

>Give me proof that this is the case in Persona 5 The Royal.
The fact that Kamoshida still exists in the same form he did in in the original game complete with a cup that had Shadow Ann floating inside?
The fact that Ann is still a part of the team at all when Shiho's attempted suicide which was a result of said molestation was a huge driving force behind her joining the team?

>exclusive game sells consoles
>getting censored by console maker
Pick One

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>also Persona is almost on the normie audience today
No? It's still completely out of their line of sight and barely above the other niche JRPG series.

No, it's not rare to find normie videos with persona music today

Yes it is?
If they have Persona music then they most certainly aren't "normies".

>Seething Switchkids have resorted to baseless propaganda for maximum COPE
Like clockwork

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nah. it was getting there with persona 4 and persona 5 is wide enough covering that it makes sense.

>If they have Persona music then they most certainly aren't "normies".
? of course they are

>you can't even refute this because you know i'm right.
If they changed the story of the first arc you're still going to get the rehash complaint arguably more so than if they left it alone because they reused Kamoshida's shadow without changing it to accommodate.

OH NO NO NO

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>the trophy gets destroyed during the fight
>hence we wouldn't see the legs
>cognitive Ann was earlier and not part of the actual boss battle
Yeah no that proves nothing. I dont doubt they censored something but I dont think this is proof.

No they aren't. For one "normies" don't listen to video game music. The closest you would get are people with Pikachu ringtones.
Two they wouldn't even know what Persona is even with Joker's reveal in Smash people were wondering who he is.

i'm assuming it's fake

>Q: “Are white lights going to shine over the ecchi scenes?”
>A: “…not included!” (We went as far as we could go without the light shining.)
SONY WOULD NEVER BOTHER ATLUS....

dualshockers.com/catherine-full-body-ps4-atlus-censor/

>cognitive Ann was earlier and not part of the actual boss battle
She's actually in the wine glass but you can't see into it in that screenshot.

She can be inside his mouth too

More like begging from nintensòys. Enjoy your musou, bro.

That’s after destroying his chalice you fucking morons

what the fuck

>It’s uncertain how this is impacting Catherine: Full Body
We don't know and won't know shit till release

i'm going to continue assuming it's fake because i didn't want to think atlus was this far gone i'm going to get bitchslapped when it comes out aren't i

>we won't know if them saying they're "fixing bigotry" means they're adjust things for bigotry until it's released

Yes, especially since that 'bigotry' was fake made by resetera

>i'm going to get bitchslapped when it comes out aren't i
Well even if there aren't any visible changes in the western version we know that they couldn't go as far as they wanted to in the first place because of Sony's light.

Sure it was
twitter.com/TheTasteOfALiar/status/1096881886364864514

thanks trannies

>we know that they couldn't go as far as they wanted to in the first place because of Sony's light.
It worries me a ton when I see this because it means that devs are so afraid that they are changing content before it even gets sent to Sony. It isn't censorship on a normal basis where it gets changed by a higherup, but it does feel like it.

>American VA
That more useless than the resetera discord pic

What do you think this conversation's about.

She also said that before we discovered it was fake

Where was it outed that it was fake?

>before we discovered it was fake
Where?
In fact there's more evidence that it's real like this for instance
twitter.com/ErinFitzgerald/status/1096930966206001153

medium.com/runeworks-gaming/the-catherine-fullbody-controversy-why-it-s-utter-bullocks-d6096587f7a6

This says nothing relating to the conversation.

What does resetera whining about imagined discrimination have to do with the validity of a statement made by a catherine VA saying they're making changes to Catherine?

>On 16th February 2019, a post was made on the shitposting forum site ‘ResetERA’, that made claims about several of the narratives points about the game that led to the transphobic narrative belief which is entirely false. I will let you read the post so I don’t have to repeat myself more than needed.
?

Probably just differences to justify a fucking remake on the same console

Because the VA's said they were making changes BECAUSE of the resetera bullshit

Not a remake, more like an enhanced version
ATLUS has been doing this since P3

Are you being retarded on purpose?
There's literally nothing in that blogpost that relates to anything being fake.

LITERAL FUCKING ROBOTS

source?

user, the whole thing they find transphobic was the fact that in one timeline Erica still appears as a man rather than a transwoman.
This is an absolute fact that you cannot deny because it's literally in the game.

Are you ?
>With the addition of time travel, a new timeline has been made, with Vincent and Catherine being shown to have children, something that Vincent never accomplished in any of the endings in the original game. In the original game, Erica leaves her friends during high school and doesn’t return until she has fully transitioned and lies to Toby by omission about her past. If this new ending is supposed to be the happiest of endings, would it not make sense that Erica doesn’t leave her friends, meeting Toby earlier as a result? That way, she would never be alone during her transitioning and would not feel the need to lie to Toby about her feelings, for it is implied she is referring to herself as ‘a cute angel’. That is not me making any assumptions, it is literally what she fucking says!
See Both of were caused by resetera bullshit
No, it was cause because they think she(he) said she was more happy being a women than a man

Where is the mention of Resetera in the VA tweet?

The whole anti trans bullshit began there then went to twitter, don't you remember the Yea Forums threads ?

Imagine being Snitchnigger seething so hard that you need to make up imaginary censorship to cope with the fact that you are never EVER getting Persona 5

The fact that it was censored to begin with still shows that even AAA titles will face this bullshit.

>it was cause because they think she(he) said she was more happy being a women than a man
Not even the resetera post says that. In fact the first line in that post says
>CATHERINE does not explicitly state anything about making everyone's lives better, but it's heavily implied
The post doesn't say anything about Erica saying he's happier.

Christ, you know you're talking to a retard when you're inadvertently defending resetera.

Pc one was censored too retard, you need to turn off the option

Thing is we won't even know if it's been censored unless it's a multiplat, changed later on or just that blatant.

Again, what does the rage on resetera have to do with the validity of the VA statement that the localizers are adjusting bigotry?
There is nothing resembling an "if, then" statement from any of the tweets on the topic.

Are you dumb ? the controversy only began cause they misinterpreted the end, and how i am defending resetera by saying they are dumb ?

How are they going to censor stuff that is not real ?

>the controversy only began cause they misinterpreted the end,
Did you even look at that?
As retarded as resetera is they didn't say anything about Erica being happier as a man. Period. The controversy came from the fact that Erica is still a man.

>and how i am defending resetera by saying they are dumb ?
And you're calling me dumb with reading comprehension like this. I'm defending resetera not of my own volition because you didn't understand why they were mad in the first place.
Holy fucking shit.

>and how i am defending resetera
Dude, how fresh off the boat are you.

>The controversy came from the fact that Erica is still a man.
No it was cause of the time travel end, Erica appears as a man in the vanilla one

>"Know the localization team took the translation very seriously in terms of trying to adjust the bigotry represented in the japanese version"
>"adjust the bigotry represented in the japanese version"
>"the bigotry represented in the japanese version"
where is the "maybe it's there maybe it isn't" vibe you're getting from that?

>As retarded as resetera is they didn't say anything about Erica being happier as a man.
Didn't matter if they said it or not because that's how they interpreted it and it spreaded like god damn wildfire.

I fucking give up with you.

But that is literally PR talk as the bigotry was not bigotry

Problem is no one interpreted it like that
Whoops did I say that?

It's bigotry as labeled by the people actually involved in the localization, right in the fucking quote.

Of course!

gay

No, she says the 'bigotry represented', the represented makes it strange

>They also like swimsuits, you're going to censor those too?
Sony already has in some areas.

>No it was cause of the time travel end
Which is the ending where Erica appears as a man in the future.
Which is Fullbody exclusive.
You know, this part, where Erica is a man, in the present.

Is all this sinking in?

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The end was not the problem, the problem was what he said and they misinterpreted as he being happier as a man and not transitioning anymore

How does "represented" imply supposition?

Why say represented at all if we know the bigotry already ?

>the problem was what he said and they misinterpreted as he being happier as a man
Except no one misinterpreted that scene and even made note of the fact that it alluded to the fact that Erica was a transwoman before.
it's literally because Erica is a man, no misinterpretation.

No it was literally cause some shit head translated it wrong

Do you know what represented means?

>No it was literally cause some shit head translated it wrong
There was no translation error to be made. Even a poor translation wouldn't translate to him saying he's happier as a man because in that timeline he was supposedly never a woman to begin with.

But what he says implies he will become a trans woman in the future, so there was no bigotry at all

Which just proves that they're mad about him being a man and just that.

Nah they were mad cause he was not going to be a trans, all of the controversy died when people translated it right

>life changing event does not happen so the consequence of it doesnt happen either
>thats bigoted
burn it all to the ground

>Nah they were mad cause he was not going to be a trans
Which he isn't in this future. There's even a picture right here >all of the controversy died when people translated it right
Except it was translated correctly to begin with. You see in this post there's absolutely nothing that was wrong and it all happens exactly as it's said.

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Both of the things he said are 'implied' by him

lol

>futa palace

No, there was no implication made by anyone in the game or otherwise.
All he ever says in that ending is "She might be closer than you think".