What's his fucking problem?
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He was using you. Like everyone else except Beckett.
was he? jack seemed like the only guy who was real with you.
He tells you outright his motivations in the same conversation. He outright oppose the Camarilla leadership. He doesn't hate every single member of the Camarilla, just the top, but if one of the lower ones get in his way he'll take em out too.
Mercurio and Beckett literally never lie to you. They are completely honest and forthcoming to you.
LaCroix did nothing wrong
Well, he withholds information from you that potentially leads to you being killed.
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If you're talking about the Sarcophagus, If you're opening it, you're one of three things, A Camarilla stooge, a genuine rube or a power-hungry ego.
None of these people are Jack's friends. If you needed to be warned, you don't deserve warning.
Why do Malk characters call Velvet a doll and have lots of dialogue options for calling her an idiot?
It's what she is, her whole sexy seductress persona is manufactured
Jack is more aloof with you, he doesn't try to harm or hinder you.
Mercurio and Beckett are the only two who will actually HELP you in a meaningful sense and show any sense in your continued existence.
V.V. (formerly Susan) was a very different person prior to undeath and used becoming a vampire to reinvent herself. I suppose the Malkavian dialogue is supposed to point out that it's all bravado and she's still really the same person underneath.
don't open it
Jack gives you advice in the beginning + helps you escape when LaCroix calls the blood hunt
Nines is also helpful too, he saves you from getting executed in the very beginning, then saves you again in downtown when the Sabbat ambush you
There's a reason that Rosa only mentions Mercurio and Beckett as the two you can trust.
>Nines
Nines sees you as usable. While he's a much nicer guy than most of the vampires you meet, he's only willing to support you if you're willing to wave the Anarch flag.
>Jack
At best, the same as Nines. At worst, he only cares about you interrupting everyone else's plan and doesn't care if you dies. The latter seems more likely.
Meanwhile Mercurio will support you no matter what you choose as long as you don't deliberately fuck him over. Same with Beckett.
The entire Malkavian schtick is that, despite being batshit insane, they see more clearly than anyone else.
You can't hide who you really are from a Malk.
He withheld fucking nothing. He told you not to open it.
Aren't the Malkavians all linked to some kind of hivemind and that's where their insight comes from?
He was made a Bejtah instead of a Chadgrel.
>At best, the same as Nines. At worst, he only cares about you interrupting everyone else's plan and doesn't care if you dies. The latter seems more likely.
Jack is the equivalent of a superstar athlete meeting with a “Make-A-Wish” kid. He’s friendly and willing to give some good advice/life lessons, but ultimately he realizes that the kid is probably not going to survive for long in the world and thus worries about the bigger problems on his own plate. It’s not that he’s plotting against you or considers you expendable, but he’s already lived so long and seen all the shit that’s gone down in the vampire word that he really doesn’t expect you to make it through your first sunrise.
Broken mirrors of elder gods.
>Aren't the Malkavians all linked to some kind of hivemind and that's where their insight comes from?
Yes, they have a bunch of different names for it. The true visionaries are able to use the network to their own ends but the average malk is lucky if they hear a message twice in a year.
The only two people in the game who you can 100% trust are Becket and Mercurio. Everyone else sees you as a potential rival to kill off, or a tool they can use to advance their own agendas. Often both.
And Mercurio. He's the only guy that actually is helpful if you treat him right, no underhandedness.
>gets you blown up for the lulz
yeah, what a swell guy.
give me a reason to not bash her skull in. trinkets don't count
She's cute.
Couldn't he have just dove out the window? Pretty sure a vampire of his age and generation can survive something like that.
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We're not doing this again
why didn't he make the Sheriff lie on top of the c4 and soak the explosion?
death and life are mutually parasitic
Jack always felt like a sink or swim kinda guy.
Yeah, he used you but he didn't outright fuck you over.
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Mary Elizabeth McGlyyn's voice is soothing
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You don't get anything for killing her. She also likely can't help being a Naga-whatever.
Still, the fact she goes all horror movie on the film crew instead of just laying low shows she's probably some low humanity trash. Usually, if I can't spare the t.v dude while also continuing her quest I just dumpster her.
We killed him
What's stopping a non crippled LaCroix or the PC from jumping out and landing where the arrows are? Surely a mix of vampiric toughness plus high stamina and fortitude would make a 10-20 story drop survivable.
Napalm.
Pisha is a huge risk to the Masquerade; there's a TV show going on, and she eats people, so what are you going to do?
Pisha is such a non-character to be honest senpai
Fuck her, take her out. I hate Pisha. What a dead-end character, such a shame
what's the best clan and gender?
Male Nos
female gangrel
female tremere
This, and it's why I love this game.
This
Female Ventrue
It's too high up, and he had just gotten stabbed so his hp was low
Male toreador
mommy's milkies
Next Thursday the first clan will be revealed. What do you think want it to be?
Also I don't understand why V5 gets all the flame. I finished the corebook and reading the Camarilla expansion now and I say they did a great job adding recent development into WoD. How the war on terror put the security agencies in the US on the edge and they found assets belonging to kindred while they initially thought they belonged to the terrorists etc.
Give ventrue
Jack is not really a bro.
He only helps the player because he sees you as a potential tool to disrupt the plans of the guys at the top.
He doesn't want to kill you, but has no problem if you die from his little scheme.
Actually sticking that close to the building would be very difficult. Even if you don't lead with a jump you naturally roll forward quite a bit.
I hope they reveal Rudi as a clan
You're instrumental to his plan first, but he'd prefer if you didn't die in the process. He doesn't intervene because whatever shenanigans they got up to that made you stronger are supposed to carry you, but he does express regret if you OPEN IT despite everything.
Why hasn't Rudi commented anything about thinblood rights?
They better include
>Ventrue
>Tremere
>Nosferatu
>Malkavian
>Gangrel
Hoping they start with Tremere
they will start with either Ventrue or Brujah
>What do you think want it to be?
Probably Brujah or something like that, a Vanilla choice.
>I don't understand why V5 gets all the flame
Me too, my only grievances with it where the art style(better than some v20 books, but still hideous) and the direction they are taking the Sabbat, making they fuck off to the middle east seems pretty cheap and easy cop out.
First reveal will be Toreador. 5 clans will be Toreador, Brujah, Ventrue, Gangrel, and Tremere in that order. Nosf will be first dlc, Malk second.
>Brujah AND Gangrel
Not happening.
If I'm wrong I would guess that they will swap Gangrel for Nosf for a clear stealth class. Honestly now that I think about it this makes more sense.
what even causes beckett to lose his shit and change his mind about the sarcophagus? I always assumed that he became aware of jack's plan and wanted to warn you without letting you in on it
What are the likelihoods of something like Lasombra or Tzimisce showing up?
>killing Pisha
imagine being this retarded
both malks
queer gangrel
>he opened it
I hope the game is about Rudi's crusade.
The thinblood prophet girl at the start straight up tells you not to do it, too.
>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
>Mary Elizabeth McGlyyn's voice is soothing
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She did this song for SH3
He tells you the reason. He realized something was wrong with the city and after the Sabbat attack fully saw how bad the situation was. So he decided against opening it in case it made things worse. He still didn't think it was an Antedeluvian, just that the city was having problems and it was more important to get that under control first.
>playing other than Venture
Plebs don't do this, right?
Tzimisce I doubt, but Lasombra is about to become Camarilla and they said to expect a surprise bonus clan(i.e. a clan no one is expecting), so there is some hope for lasombra to be playable.
Max is a pretty straight shooter too, especially for a tremere.
Except during the gargoyle quest unless you're a fellow Tremere or have high Persuasion.
Agreed.
But playin a power hungry malkavian who poses as a ventrue is fun.
I love being Therese and beating cops.
Why was the credit song so good?
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You don't get why the virtue signaling nonsense like Rudi and the 'fascism' and 'feeding is rape' appendix would put people off?
>She also likely can't help being a Naga-whatever.
Ain't my problem. My problem is a psychopathic remorseless killer that's breaking the masquarade and killing innocent people.
She's a mad dog that had to be put down.
I listened to them a lot before I even played VtMB. Comalies is a really good album and I still listen to it sometimes.
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This video is a little corny but I still love it.
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>feeding is rape
I think the Salubri already had trouble feeding on unwilling people, so that's not really new. It was just adding another aspect of how to use the morality system.
I remember that first time I played I picked the camarilla ending so I didn't even find out what was in the sarcophagus.
>tfw you and your skater bros used to bully the goths in school but deep down you daydreamed about listening to shit like lacuna coil while cuddled up next to the qt awkward goth girl
Fuuuuuck
It's actually more about babying people who might get triggered by feeding if you read the section.
A lot of people seem to be saying that now. That they used to make fun of goth stuff and now that they actually listened to the music and played stuff like VtMB they wish it would come back.
I was the only person in my area who liked it as a kid and it made people try and bully me, so I stopped associating with it and kind of forgot about it. Playing VtMB reminded me how much I liked it and made me stop caring what others think. The subculture isn't entirely dead though, and there's even goth stuff in China now. You should get into it now.
So Yea Forums, which clan has the best song at Succubus Club and why is it Tzimisce?
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oh fuck the comments with timestamps finally show up without sorting to new.
The problem is the subculture is heavily associated with the social justice and socialism subcomunities, which are utter bananas.
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It's my favorite soundtrack
Nah dude, I'm 30. Too old for that scene. I almost hooked up with a 34 year old goth chick last month though... she was fucking crazy.
Because she's a cute she-pajeet
I think it was always more liberal but never really crazy SJW. It's not too uncommon to find goth stuff that draws on European history/culture and it doesn't try to stifle sexual expression.
I like all the hub songs but Chinatown's always felt the most atmospheric to me.
Amazing. And it's not even the top comment, which is another comment with the timestamps.
i want to be a werewolf
The subculture was looked down on in its time because the people in it were weirdos and losers. It's experiencing some minor interest now because it's far enough in the past that people can sift through the media it produced or influenced and pick out the good stuff without having to deal with the scene people who have all long since moved on.
Its a damn shame this game won't do late 90s/Early 2000s rock theme, just before rock died. At least most of the soundtrack from the first game is still here..
>That they used to make fun of goth stuff and now that they actually listened to the music and played stuff like VtMB they wish it would come back.
Think that's kind of the narrative for western entertainment right now. You know basically a third of the country is going to watch a fucking comic book movie this weekend? Shit wouldn't seem fathomable if you told somebody twenty years ago.
damn, never noticed
watch this movie then
>Masquerade-breaking lesbian who justifies murderous rampage because dindu clan
Yeah nah fuck that cunt.
Especially that he is a VENTRU, he could easily use Potence spell.
>a fucking comic book movie
This one was pretty good, but haven't really seen much like it since.
I think you mean Fortitude. But I don't know if Fortitude would help falling from that high up, the building was really tall.
She deals fairly with you and gets you some good magic artifacts. Her clan is weird enough that the kine probably wouldn't even identify her as a vampire if she got caught up in a huge masquerade breaking incident that put her on the six o'clock news. Plus mortals in the WoD are about as competent as people in the Invader Zim universe, so as long as she doesn't walk around eating people on the streets it's unlikely she'll cause a problem.
>people are cowards that are terrified of judgment
Big news to me.
The goth subculture was never associated with any of that shit, all this garbage is tacked on today for the identity politics movement bullshit.
>The goth subculture was never associated with any of that shit, all this garbage is tacked on today for the identity politics movement bullshit.
I think it's more of an issue of the fact that the scene culture actually was pretty SJW before that was a term and the scene faggots got associated with goths. Very few people here probably even experienced the goth bullshit, I mean fuck you'd have to be in your mid thirties at that point.
>judgment
physical attacks*
>pretty SJW
They weren't, unless you are trying to tell me that "liberal" back then meant the same thing it does today. Their views and how they went about them would be considered conservative by the regressives at the moment. I don't recall any goths campaigning for representation in fucking videogames.
Learn to defend yourself and your means of self expression.
no, jack is not "real" with you. he is one of the vampires siring caitiff all over the place because he wants to bring about gehenna.
Re-read my post, I'm saying people are calling scene shit goth and scene was extremely liberal in the modern sense.
Scene was only "liberal" in the sense that all they wanted to do was party all day and night, do drugs and sleep around.
I was referencing how people are coming around to enjoying things they would shit on in the past for being nerdy, like comics. Goth revival soon tho.
I want those "people" to be strung up by their guts and hung, my youth was a fucking nightmare because I tended to enjoy "things socially unacceptable" and now they are suddenly acceptable and celebrated because they are so "nerdy and cool xd"
Kind of hard when you're alone against dozens of people and in a school with quite a few gang members. So maybe putting it on hold was a better alternative.
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I know how you feel. But I'd still rather those people enjoy it now as long as they admit they were shitty before and try to do better.
Just do her quests to get the artifacts then kill her. There's a way to complete them with the reporter surviving iirc.
>There's a way to complete them with the reporter surviving iirc.
If you have Dementation or high Intimidate you can keep him quiet without killing him.
I usually let her live because she seems like she minds her own business for the most part. She got sloppy with the tv crew, sure, but she's been around long enough without causing major incidents that I think she can be trusted not to have any huge fuckups. At least, she's not any more likely to accidentally take the Kindred public than the anarchs or thin-bloods.
If all it takes is a simple, "Come oooooon!" to get him to spill the beans, he's still way more forthcoming than 99% of the characters.