Choose one or your top 5

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Huh, I suppose the overstylized look threw me off.

look below the machete and above the basket hilted sword you mong

1) Zweihander
2) Claymore
3) Dadao
4) Longsword
5) Hamberge

I like my retard strength builds

Claymore
Gladius
Longsword
Flamberge
Scimitar

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Basket hilt is the true patrician's choice

Falchion
Katana
Machete
Dadao
Cutlass

That picture is hilariously bad.

>no kopis
What a shit image. Some of the measurements are off as well.

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why not both?

There is no ammo.

My pick is model 1832
Never heard that name though

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Messer
Claymore
Kodachi
Basket Hilt Sword
Estoc

copeis haha
you get it?

What a shit picture

Basket
Estoc

Scmitar
Shamsir
Saber
1832
Zweihander

From practical point of view, first 3 of them are useful in honorable duels and hacking unarmored peasants. 1832 as a short side weapon for finishing off armored opponents that have been strucked down. Zweihander for cavalry, I guess.
None of these weapon can effectively dispose of armored enemy though.

Gimme that basic bitch longsword aw yeh

Straight swords are cooler, curved swords are more practical. Swords are only good against unarmored body parts, so you might as well maximize the damage against that. Sure, a heavier straight sword is better than the lighter curved sword against armored opponents, but it's in the same sense that a gun does better against a tank than a rock, they're both useless in that situation. Anyone with any sense uses sabers/scimitars.

Because swords are cumbersome, useless at most times, and when they are useful they compete with a knife and lose out.

Scimitar
Falchion
Dao
Dadao
Cutlass

I like my swords how I like my women.
Curvey

>stabs ur internal organs
Heh, nothing personnel kiddo

?
Making ammo is easy and I make my own already.

Falchion. I love single-edged swords with wide blades. It's not in the list, but also gimme one of those extra wide katana they use for their tatami-cutting competitions.

Gimme dat hook sword

*Japanese drums*
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Dual-wield hook swords.

Anyone who uses the following swords are unabashedly homosexual

>Rapier
>Estoc
>Gladius

You can’t prove me wrong

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If you dont choose the rapier or estoc you're going to die to basic infantry.
Basket hilt if you want your wrist snapped off.

Everything else just isnt fast enough to impale and dislodge. If there were a spear option I'd pick that 9 times out of 10.

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>come charging at you with my katana
>w-wait no fair I’m making ammo
Lmfao RIP loser

I pick the Zweihander and kill everyone because i can halfsword with it and effectively use it as a spear

Vast majority of that shit is a meme, like everything else. 90% of wars are fought by Naginatas and bows, just like Europe. Axes, maces, etc... all that shit is a meme. The bow and spear are gods of warfare.

lol

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Basket hilt
I like my fingers

>If there were a spear option I'd pick that 9 times out of 10.

The Zweihander you mong

At least half of this shit looks completely retarded

>block with steel barrel.
>Katana explodes.
kek

You proved yourself wrong.

Katana
Rapier
Estoc
Claymore
Saber

Dark souls ruined the zweihander for me
>be disgusting third world monkey with 100 kbps internet connection
>see game with a moderate focus on spacing
>use one of the longest weapons in the game so you can hit people 200 feet away that's also heavy enough that most builds won't be able to just block it

naginata is a halberd not a spear you pseud

IT’S EKU

OR NOTHING

The actual god of warfare is fire to attack supplies.

Gay

user was the name of that Japanese instrument that's in every JP theme in the 90s? Sounds like someone hitting something, but hollow. It's in old Street Fighters a lot.

Based

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THIS LIST IS FUCKING WRONG AND I HATE ALL OF YOU FUCKING HEMAFAGGOTS FOR BEING RETARDS AND NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THE H IN YOUR FUCKING GODASSSHITTERING NAME YOU DOUBLENIGGERSSSSSSS

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>uchiwa
lmao the fuck you gonna do with that, shoot ping pong balls at people

that's just a paddle, no?

You're both retards, a Halberd is a type of weapon in the class known as polearms which both Halberds and Naginatas are classed in. The nips mostly used either bows or Yari which is a traditional japanese spear. They eventually moved on to using firearms during the sengoku period because guns beat everything.

Flamberg
Katana
Ninjata
Model 1832
Claymore

You're trying too hard, no shit it's a halberd. When I mentioned it by name, I was specically talking about what the Japs use from that picture. "yari" is literally spear, I could have picked any of the other shit literally named spear if I wanted to pick a spear. All polearms are generally good.

>Hamberge
kek

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Not enough bastard swords

Yes. And historically used to successfully kill one of the greatest swordsman in Japan, if you know how to use it in correct timing.

Inside is full of kerosene with a flint stone and it explodes on hit. It's referred to as the "Edo period hand grenade" for a reason.

cope
you were trying to make yourself seem smart by using the japanese word for spear
naginata isn't a spear
cope

How do you kill with it? Just use it as a blunt weapon?

It's the bacon sword

Bash the edge of the oar on your neck

>Fuck, this dude has a fuck long weapon and my two weapons are not long enough
>What can I use to beat him here, on this boat

ZWEIHANDER

There is a saber there you imbecile.
You put a picture of hungarian or polish saber, which were quite specific and different.

Miyamoto was a bit of a tryhard. Also loved surprise attacks.

>Rapier
>Estoc
>Longsword
>Basket hilted sword
>Scimitar

I'll take a longsword, thank you.

>Swords
Fags, the lot of you. Get a polearm like a real man.

He knew that his opponent is a swordmaster, using katana would make Kojiro able to counter it easily. So Miyamoto prefer to wield an unexpected weapon, like oar.

Yeah thats convenient

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Claymore
Claymore
Claymore
Claymore

Fuck you. And your shield. And your armor. And your ribcage.

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He didn't kill him with an oar per se
>shaved down his spare oar to become just a long fucking stick
>showed up late to piss off Sasaki
>let the sunset blind his opponent before whacking him with the stick
Miyamoto was a cheeky bugger.

>Get a polearm

Zweihanders are like 7 fucking feet long, just use that and halfhand it

>Using the environment to your advantage

Best duelist

>Flamberge
>Scimitar
>Zweihander
>Odachi
>Broadsword

Why didn't said swordsman just cut the paddle with SUPERIOR NIPPON STEEL?

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>katana
look at this dude

Well, he did tell a whole dojo to git gud, faggets

Superior Nippon Steel is useless if you are getting baited and suffer environmental disadvantage, which make not able to swing it accurately

His sword was only folded 999,999 times and as a result, broke

Sabre?You mean sabre turbo from gta vc?

>non-polearm plebians
based

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No, I mean Sabre -the weapon- because I've learned Enlish not "Americaneese"

Katana. Not because it's SUPERIOR MIRRION FORDED NIPPON STEER or whatever, I know that it's not a superior sword in a mechanical sense. I just think that fighting styles for katanas are more interesting, since they're based around slashing strikes and quick draws rather than lots of parries and thrusts.

Second choice would be Rapier, for similar reasons; the fighting styles around it are really unique looking and interesting, clearly developed for that specific weapon. 99% of the other swords on that list are essentially interchangeable from a stance and style perspective (if you break them into one-handed and two-handed categories), it's just little things like reach and cross-section that are different.

A macuahuitl should count as a sword. A really shitty sword.

Falchion is best.

>2d4 damage
>18-20/x2 crit profile

Literal perfection.

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*Dabs on your stats with a great crossbow*

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Schiavona>Falcata>Khanda=Dadao>Kilij>Tulwar=Shamshir>Kukri=Kopesh>Yatagan=Shashka>Spatha=Jian>Espada Ropera>Claymore=Pallasch=Katzbalger>Zweihander=Zanmadao>Longsword>Estoc=Rapier>Falchion>Katana>Kriegsmesser>Gladius>>>>>>everything else

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>rangedshitter

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1. Longsword
2. Gladius
3. Claymore
4. Zweihander
5. Broadsword

Hook sword

>Zweihander that low

Before i shit on you, what is your rating system based on here

>Meleemeemer

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>katana
>odachi
>rapier
>estoc
>basket hilted sword

>A really shitty sword.

Obsidian is far sharper then steel, and while it's more brittle and the blades would break after prolonged use, you still have a giant ass club left.

The Conquistadors were scared shittless of the things for a reason: At it's best, it's a sword with way more force behind it and with a way finer edge, and at it's worse, it's still an effective bludgeoning weapon.

Give me a large round shield + gladius and I could beat any sword on there

>No Dacian Falx
For shame, user...

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-YOU- couldn't beat a hobo with a rusty spoon even if we gave you a zweihander.

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also the two handed versions could literally be like 5-6 feet long, it's no wonder one was able behead a horse

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anime

model 1832
falchion
shortsword
machete
gladius

hey, it worked for the spartans

Last time you've checked you looked nothing like a spartan though.

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Gimme the shortsword, rapier, machete, estok and basket

hahaha you don't know ANYTHING about me faggot, aside from the fact were both posting here. 100% guaranteed I can lift more than you and have more endurance. Get dabbed on weeb boi.

>The bow and spear are gods of warfare
Full plate armor would like to have a talk with you.

Lifting tubs of icecream aint real excercise tubby.

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the projection is real

I'm listening but all I can hear is wheezing from your pierced lung.

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In modern combat using guns would be better.
If guns are not allowed then crossbows and normal bows would be better. All you would have to do is sneak up on your enemy and shoot them.
If no ranged weapons are allowed then full plate armor and spears would be the best since you get the range and protection

>Says the internet tough guy

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gimme that CHAOS ZWEIHANDER

Not him but i'm pretty average build but if i were given a zweihander i'd absolutely kill your ass since it's effectively a spear

how would you get past the shield?

>all medieval armor is the same bad quality

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Honestly why wouldn't we pick Bayonet with a shit gun?

because thats essentially a spear

That's literally what long, spear-like weapons do.

>All bows can't pierce plate

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OTSUCHI

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Musket
Blunderbuss
Cannon
Crossbow
Bow

>most bows can't pierce most medieval plate armor
FTFY, now miss me with your shitty obsolete weapon system

user what the fuck do you actually think a shield is? I'm not going to strike the shield willingly and my weapon won't magically gravitate toward it. I'd stab where the shield isn't you doof

plate armor was made out of sheet metal, aka up to 3mm in thickness You could quite literally pierce though that armor with any modern fireaxe.

>youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3qjUzUzQg
inb4 it's not real, muh medieval uberbows, muh bias

That pic is a falcata faggot

Actually it's the other way around. Most bows used for warfare was made specifically to pierce plate and was super effective at it. English longbows were able to decimate plated troops without any sweat.

i'm a brainlet, please explain:
what's the advantage of upward curved swords like the sabre?
what's the advantage of downward curved swords like the kukri?
why do people say swords are a meme, when they were used all over the world for thousands of years?

Yes, if you are going to aim at the point with most radius you will have harder time to penetrate, if you reduce angle of attack as much as possible it would be easier to penetrate.
This isn't rocket surgery.

bring me a Khopesh, a Kilij, and a Spatha

>swords are outclassed by crossbows and basic guns.
youtube.com/watch?v=XMT6hjwY8NQ
youtube.com/watch?v=eYsr81y0Aeo

>what's the advantage of upward curved swords like the sabre?
Literally, non.
>what's the advantage of downward curved swords like the kukri?
When you pull out, sword creates deeper would on exit.
>why do people say swords are a meme, when they were used all over the world for thousands of years?
Because guns exist.

Curved sword are less likely to catch in flesh

Kukris have more force concentrate on less of the blade, allowing a pseudo puncture effect.. i guess

Where does this meme history come from? The rise of plate armour also started a rise of 2 handed weapons because it allowed a knight to no longer wield a shield, because the plate stopped almost any attacks, including bows. Even if it goes through a few cm it won't go through the gambeson underneath.

>You could quite literally pierce though that armor with any modern fireaxe.
The one in this video is a 2-2.5mm steel plate, now even crossbows can pierce it.

youtube.com/watch?v=qw62NV0bUTg

>what's the advantage of upward curved swords like the sabre?
Longer blade area and extra mass in the belly of the blade provide more slicing power. Extreme curves, like in Polish sabres, can be used for tricky angles with training.
>what's the advantage of downward curved swords like the kukri?
Think of it as the midway point between a sword and an axe. The kukri is an outdoorsman's tool sort of like the western billhook.
>why do people say swords are a meme,
Undereducated contrarianism and blowback from the "folded 1000 times can cut a tank in half" meme. They do have a point in that spears were probably more important in formation, but the sword was always useful as a more generalist sidearm.

You’re not a brainlet user. Everyone else that knows this shit are autistic.

>Tfw favorite meme weapon is the Scythe
>The only way to make it even halfway viable is to sharpen both sides but also be able to puncture things with the tip
>Even then, it’s outclassed by its contemporaries
>War scythes aren’t nearly as Aesthetic despite kind of looking like Mantis Claws

It’s not fair bros
At least sickles are still cool and sorta practical

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If you're going to stan a straight up agricultural tool, at least pick something viable the flail

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>swords

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I no particular order
>Gladius
>Rapier
>Hook sword
>katana
>Not listed, but Kukri yes I know the kukri isn't a sword

It's easier to stab at gaps in armor than to slash at them. Thrusting is still really good against unarmored opponents (see: napoleon cavalry)

The flamberge is a meme, change my mind.

>yes I know the kukri isn't a sword
Falcata
Kopis
Yatagan
"buff head" kukris for decapitating cattle
et cetera

Water is wet.

A few peasants with crossbows/muskets and a few weeks of training > armored knights with a lifetime of training

Saber
Katana
Dadao
Gladius
Longsword

Yeah bc theyre swords

Hook swords weren’t common

Also I wouldn’t use a sword I’d use a mace or an axe because they were objectively better

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Stabbing people in the face with flanged maces is one of the coolest things to do in KCD.

It’s just the best thing ever because of how wonderfully simple it is. Techniques for blunt weapons are easy to learn and they’re useful against every type of opponent. Axes are the same way.

Axes might be the coolest weapon ever made.

Nigga you could be the biggest cock in spain and you'd still be wishing you didn't have such a gay as buckler when the high as fuck Aztec flies out of the bush spinning a giant sharp log like a fucking top.

>objectively better
>rarely actually used

Hrm.

Who's /bardiche/ here?

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Spearfags are the new katanafags.

The Model 1832 is the odd one out; it was issued to artillery regiments as a utility blade, not a combat sidearm. They weren't expected to get into melee, and would've used their rifle-bayonets if they got overrun anyway. As a matter of fact, any short-sword would be pretty useless as a close-combat weapon with no shield, fighting against opponents with polearms.

If you're going to carry a heavy weapon, why not just go all the way and carry a poleaxe or war-hammer? Even more power at even more distance would be less risky.

With the difference being spears have a far longer history and more practical combat utility than katanas, or swords in general. If you have a sword and I have a spear, you're in trouble unless you've got a shield and a nice set of armour.

>no bastard sword
What an unversatile, shit list.

Did you forget that the Conquistadors often wore steel plate and helmets in combat, which would shatter glass? Sure, you've still got the rest of the club to use, but even that's not going to easily batter through armour either, especially when the person wearing it is fighting back with STEEL blades.

No substitutes, Swiss rapiers all the way

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>Raise the buckler
>Flimsy glass blades shatter
>Staggered a bit due to blunt force, but no real damage done
>Warrior promptly shot in the gut by your mate Pedro and speared for good measure

>Swiss rapiers
>posts katana

>*Unsheathes katana*
>*Teleports behind you*
Heh...folded nippon steel has been used in japanese warfare for centuries. It's objectively the best weapon to ever exist! In fact, everything else may as well be fanfiction! Every duelist in history would fall before an untrained peasant wielding a katana; everyone to a trained one! The lightning speed they can be drawn makes them also the most practical weapon. If you have any other weapon and I have a katana...then well buddy... you're outta luck haahaa...
By the way...
>Slices you into a million pieces using ancient nippon technique
Your guard was down...

spears > maces = axes > swords >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bows and crossbows

"""bastard""" swords are just longswords.

D minus for effort.

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CLANG > curved CLANG > fists > everything else

For me, it’s the dadao.

Swiss sabers(not rapiers) look like katanas since they have a similar shape.

Basket hilted sword

Flamberge for stylepoints

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I know what you mean. Just take two pieces of wood and smack them together and there ya go

Two dao so I can lead the Shu and beat Cao Cao

CLANG means something altogether different round these parts, strange

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I’m talking about real bastard swords, AKA Hand and a Half swords.

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>people will unironically not choose the Claymore and still call themselves men in the year of our lord 2019
flamberge is alright too

Right.
Longswords.

and all of them and their users in this thread were laid down in the ground to a spear user. spear>sword to be historically accurate.

Longswords are two hand lengths, retard. Much more difficult to use one handed.
Bastard swords have a shorter handle, but still enough room to grip the pommel, unlike an arming sword.

no retard
spear formation > sword formation

spears are shit in duels

stabs don't have stopping power at all. i mean, if you hit the stomach or whatver he is gonna die, but in a hour. In the other hand you can remove limbs or break a skull with most cutting weapons. Believe me or not cutting is more effective against bone than stabbing, including skulls.

Spears/lances and polearms are weapons of war.
Swords are for personal defence. You’d still carry one on your person in case your main weapon breaks.

imagine being this dumb

Elizabethan use of "bastard" was more about blade length than handle length, and Oakeshott typology makes no real distinction between "hand and a half" and "two handed"
Bastard swords are longswords.

The problem is that by itself, any two-handed longsword/greatsword is always going to be beaten by a polearm, assuming both opponents have equivalent skill and protective gear. Doppelsoeldners of the 16th century armed with Zweihanders always fought in a unit with pikes, because their purpose was to support the pikemen by hacking away opposing spears and killing enemy spearmen while they were tangled in a push-of-pike. Of course, this meant they had the highest risk of dying in a battle, and thus received double-wages (hence the name).

>most roman soldiers were homosexual
it adds up

Katana

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>2019
>gets sword
>hmmm i shall defend myself
>gets shot

nice ideal, faggot

Your assertions are 100% counter to then contemporary thinking.
Slashing swords were considered barbaric and useless because they had no stopping power, where as a good stab killed a man on the spot.
It got to the point where even people wielding cavalry sabres refused to sharpen anything but the tip.

Tonfa can BTFO every weapon on this list easy

youtu.be/LnkjS58yb2U

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Getting stabbed by a knife is a much different experience than being shafted by a pike that could be more than 10 feet long, with all the force and weight that implies. Good luck trying to fight with a barge-pole stuck through your ribs.

Slash beats impact which beats puncture which beats slash. Slashfags would get destroyed in terms of the OP because theres no hammer or blunt weapon option.

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we are talking about estocs and rapiers here, polearms shits on every weapon posted in this thread

This. That's why French cavalry sabres were overall less efficient than the straighter ones used by British cavalry, because a gruesome slash isn't as immediately lethal as a direct shot to the organs. Refining the sabre to increase stabbing force eventually evolved rapier-esque blades like this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_1913_Cavalry_Saber

Zweihander, because if you're going against pikes you might as well be able to counter attack 'em.

swiss saber
saber swiss
probably a spear
longsword
swiss saber

One of my favorite weapons never shows up in games much. TMNT games and Soul Calibur only, sadly.

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Saber
Cutlass
Dao
Dadao
>mfw all these gerudo weapons in BOTW

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I was trying to refute his general assumption that 'stabbing' is less lethal than 'slashing' when common sense dictates that a vertically deeper wound is far more deadly than a horizontally wide one. You can survive a slash to your abdomen as long as you immediately bind the wound; a stab is more likely to hit arteries and vital organs, leading to swift or even immediate death long before medical attention. Rapiers were efficient civilian weapons for killing people who didn't wear steel plate; estocs were much heavier and longer affairs that were more like big spikes with handles than swords, with zero edge but an incredibly sharp point to puncture steel.

Zweihänder
Longsword
Claymore
Flamberge
Dadao

Polearms are for literal faggots.

Don't forget Ninja GAiden

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God they were so fun.
Also, that gif. Pic related

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>efficiency over style is faggotry

Swords were only fetishised by legends because they're a symbol of nobility and power, since only the upper crust could afford the amount of steel, time and craftsmanship needed to make a decent blade, then dedicate their lives to mastering it. They've always been to polearms what pistols are to rifles; good in a pinch if you've got nothing else, but not your first choice if you really want something dead. No soldier ever went to battle with only a sword, not until plate armour went extinct.

The funny thing is that agricultural flails (flail on a pole) were often used as weapons in Europe, and even hand-held flails weren't exactly uncommon as self-defence weapons in the 18th century, especially with all the religious violence of that era.

>No soldier ever went to battle with only a sword
reeaallly might want to think that statement through before committing, friend.
You're forgetting about units like the rodeleros.

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For reference, this blog has an interesting bit on 'Protestant flails' which were analogous to Japanese nunchucks:

vertexmover.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/no-fence-against-a-flail/

>muh real life choices
God, you fags are so boring.

It's situational really. On open battlefield? Polearm is the best. Interior battle or narrow-space environment? sword.

Fair point, though technically those soldiers aren't JUST carrying swords, they're also carrying shields to protect them from spears or even bullets.

>no urumi

Well if you're going to be that pedantic, then I will point out the Big Sword Units of the Sino-Japanese war.
Soldiers armed with literally nothing but a sword, because China was too poor to give them guns.

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Depends on the 'narrow space'. In a corridor, one spearman could easily hold off a dozen swordsmen since they can't exactly be flanked. Same goes for foot-bridges.

>one spearman could easily hold off a dozen swordsmen since they can't exactly be flanked.
Yeah. But if said swordsman brought a Tower Shield then you're screwed.

Shortsword, preferably like my xiphos irl.

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>top 5
ez
Scimitar
Saber
Cutlass
Zweihander
Longsword
Gladius

Well it depends on whether you count the falx as a sword or not but there are historical depictions of dacian and thracians warriors using nothing but a falx against romans.

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*makes conventional melee warfare obsolete*

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>Top 5
Kanabo
Flanged Mace
War pick
Crossbow
Improvised

All it takes is some shitty terrain and that formation is no longer viable.

>no messer
shit fucking list m8
my nigga

messer/grossemesser
claymore
basket hilt
saber
shortswords

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A messer is functionally identical to the falchion. The difference is little more than guild politics.

1. Odachi
2. Zweihander
3. Claymore
4. Flamberge
5. Estoc
I just like the two-handed swords, seeing them used well is so satisfying

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Claymore
Longsword
Odachi
Zweihander
Ninjata

Flamberge
Odachi
Zweihander
Claymore
Chokuto/Ninjato
in no particullar order

Couple things, one, a wooden club can still bash in steel armor. Second, swords can't cut through thick wood, but they can get stuck in them. Wooden shields are effective against steel swords, so are clubs.