We lost. Vergeben confirmed Edrick for Smash. Is this the greatest smash disappointing...

Just like how Steve's got BTFO'ed by their own dev team?

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That doesn't matter anymore, a lot of ShadowBros (Or at least me) have accepted Shadow as an assist trophy, if anything, Banjo could be the only one to avenge everyone who fell for the grinch.

If Tails or Eggman weren't spirits one of them could've been the second Sonic Rep.

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Nobody was fucking predicting or leaking Corrin, user.
Also this.
The fact that people are letting this and the fact that he literally said "there will be a Smash character at the VGAs and it's Erdrick" just slip them by.

He was still around, he just did most of the damage control on his Reddit account.

>Accept it and you won't be dissapointed
How the fuck did you not learn from the Grinch leaks? It doesnt matter you believe it or not, the disappointment and disgust is always going to be the same if the picks end up being dogshit.

Regardless, they're not in. Virginben is retarded.

>blurry image leak bad
>text leak(s) that got debunked one after another good

imagine being invested at all in this pseudo console war bullshit
i dont understand you zoomers

Sigh he tried to tell you, now you have to Apologize

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Go sit somewhere else, fag.

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>another se character where se will do all they can to ensure that their inclusion is well below the standard
>2 music tracks
>2 spirits
>1 alt outfit

I'm finished with Smash Bros, they've killed it.

Cope darling

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>verge "it's my source's fault any time I'm wrong" ben
yeah sure

If you think erdrick isn't coming you're fucking retarded. The characters code name is brave which is an English translation of Yuusha which is what erdrick is. The charactervdata matches up with him. He is the most notable Japanese third party still absent. Dragon quest has a very major release coming to the switch this year. It's a good addition anyway because it will be a chibi fighter so the only similar character is toon link making him fairly unique.

>2 music tracks
>they're both MIDIs
god bless square enix

>verge "IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ERDRICK AT THE VGAS BUT PLANS CHANGED LAST SECOND AND THEY THREW TOGETHER AN ENTIRE ANIMATED TRAILER" ben
>verge "MY SOURCE SAW PLAYABLE MINECRAFT CONTENT IN THE BASE GAME" ben
>verge "IT DEFINITELY ISNT A LINK'S AWAKENING REMAKE" ben

Jack isn't Joker's name, so code names mean absolutely nothing, don't fall for this bullshit, user.
Not that I think you want Erdrick anyway, you're badwagoning.

>Is this the greatest smash disappointing?
That will never sop being Corrin as first party and Bayonetta as third party.

It isn't? Then who or what is it related to? Not him btw just curious.

>The characters code name is brave
The Order of Heroes is called Weiss Braves in Japan.
Say hello to your new dlc fighter.

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No, what I mean is, while Jack is referring to Joker in the game's files, there's not really a connection. The closest thing people had to one was Jack Frost, who they assumed would be part of his moveset, but it looks like that's not the case. Therefore, Brave does not have to be referring DIRECTLY to this other character.

Erdrick makes the most sense as a character square would want in smash. I know you fuckers don't want to admit when leakers are right, but the datamined name was really all he needed.

>FEH always announces Brave Heroes for each anniversary
>Weiss Braves
>FEH is a fucking cash cow
You might actually be onto something here.

>the next corrin
What the hell does that mean to you in this context? Are you retarded?

Go knit another sweater, Grandma. Head on back to Gamefaqs while you're at it, "Sweetie".

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>hey kids buy my dlc if you can trust me
>generic enemy
>character rep for spinoff of series getting in over long last enduring characters who have starred in multiple games as the mc
>another square enix rep of no value
Do they want people to by the DLC or just cringe at it?

Why are most leakers completely full of themselves?

Because people worship the ground they walk on and constantly "@" them to try and ask questions and get more information. People feed their ego way too much.

>Don't want another fucking Fire Emblem rep
>want Anna in smash as a Gilgamesh-type character that uses tons of different weapons
I am very conflicted.

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Because they do it for efame and attention.
Here's a little secret, user.
Actual leakers don't make a name for themselves because generally speaking, that makes it easier to get caught.
Real leaks don't have narratives, or stories, and they don't consistently come from the same source. Leaks just happen with little to no fanfare.
Also, isn't the average age of your typical Gamefaqs poster like 13? Not the most trustworthy community.

Believe me, I wanted the Grinch leak to be real just to fuck the insufferable faggots over. After the assblast incineroar gave, think it's better not to doubt them especially in a situation like this erdrick claim.

But why wouldn't we doubt this Erdrick claim?
He's quite literally been wrong ever since the game has released. He hasn't made a single right prediction, and has actually made MULTIPLE straight up wrong ones like
>Minecraft content as a boss
>Erdrick at the VGAs
>A new 2D Zelda game that's NOT Link's Awakening

I want Anna in as an ax user that also uses staves, personally.
She just has a lot of fun things you could do with her, which makes her the best possible FE rep in my mind.

Because it's a huge disappointment and lines up with the Smash Ultimate DLC.

Oh my is someone still a little flustered they were on the losing team? Don't be like that honey bun, everyone makes mistakes

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You just know that if they did add Anna she'd be a sword character.

Most people did not find Joker a huge disappointment.

These people are retarded then.

I feel like Anna is probably one of the few units that wouldn't make the internet lose it in rage, considering she's in almost every FE game

Because it's not just him, it's other leakers too. The order of dlc guessed literally doesn't matter, if he knew a square rep was coming, even if they're not first or even revealed last he was still right about it. I doubt the Minecraft a little bit but who knows that could still happen.

>been a huge fan of Dragon Quest ever since i played III on the gameboy color
>played almost every game in the series since then
>always had a pipe dream of a DQ character being in smash since 4
>cloud comes out and it becomes a bit more realistic
>veggie burger says shit about erdrick
>because smashfags are so autistic all they do is argue about leaks
>if erdrick does get in everyone will hate him thanks to the rosterfaggotry due to virginben
Slime would've been better but still, fuck me

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You underestimate the sheer autism, rage, and FE hatred that the Smash community contains.

People would've hated him regardless, they already see him as stealing a spot from Sora, Geno, or Sephiroth cause he isn't as "iconic"

People shat on Joker for weeks, fans wanted Banjo, not some literal who weebshit

Unironically can't wait for PapaGenos to make a 20 minute video on this post.

>I hated the inclusion of a character i knew nothing about so EVERYONE hated him
yawn

> Geno
> Iconic

Mickey, I don't feel so good...

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How can people remember or care this much about drama involving "leaks", "leakers", track records, and everything in general?
I can't be getting old, I'm only 21. I just don't understand it.

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That's the rosterfag mentality, not mine

Did this nigga really just use One Piece/Shonen Jump to back up a Smash leak?

Is this real life

Look it up on Twitter and Smashboards, fans were upset over Joker

Incineroar literally can't stop winning.

Vergeben is usually right or wrong on some stuff, since insiders are calling for Erdrick, he's probably in, but the minecraft content seems unlikely

It's literally a lose lose if you believe in "leakers" because if they get it wrong and you believed in them you're also a laughing stock, why not just wait in comfortable ignorance and not run the risk of getting spoiled? Don't you want a surprise? Come on guys just wait, having patience is a fun activity y'know.

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>p-please stop posting vergeben leaks I don't want to be spoiled

Its not even the correct colors and its missing several details

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I don't even got a switch bro.

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Joker is a shit choice though, the decision is just beyond retarded on so many levels
>1 off character
>only in because game popular
>nintendo picked him but weren't smart enough to use this leverage to get persona anything on switch
>literally better reps from the same series
>third sega owned rep
>shit moveset that clones other characters moves
>has pistol as main weapon
He's a complete fucking joke, so many more characters that are just objectively better

>banjo/kazooie
>any of the battletoads
>crono even though se will make sure his inclusion feels hollow
>bomberman a character from a series nintendo has actually published in the past
>quote for being one of the earliest indie hits even though the ip has been jewed into the hands of nicalis
>chorus goys because this ip for some reason has no rep
>advance wars rep because why the fuck not
>dillon the armadillo because he's a great addition
>ryu hyabusa because he's an old character with a history with nintendo who should be in smash
>travis touchdown because nintendo need to lock that shit down hard
>isaac because this nigga should have been in smash ages ago

that faggot is a shitposter but incineroar got in with his own self, not faggotry about "fan polls". But of course you know that and still project your anger on the selection anyway

>literal rosterfag mentality

sad

just look at the shield, it would be like saying bootleg Pokemon figures aren't clearly meant to be Pokemon.

Inclusions should at least be good, but the current dlc shows that inclusions should just be whatever, may as well put in Kratos, or someone from Granblue Fantasy, they are as relevant as Joker.

>Banjofag
>indie shit
>e-shop only shit
Goddamn, just take the (You)

>relevancyfag

Inclusion is about how well the character is presented both in gameplay and in well... character. All of your bulletpoints are retarded.

>indie shit
Literally the best of indie shit
>banjo
>bad
Were your parents related? like before they were married?
>e-shop only
No such thing exists on my list.

I like Bomberman

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When has Vergeben and his lackeys ever been right about DLC? Every time they predicts something DLC he ges BTFO'd
>Square Enix rep being first
>Steve being revealed at Minecon
>Ender dragon is in the game
>No Atlus
>Zarbon and Dordoria and Raditz in Fighterz
>Zoro in Soulcalibur
I getting tired of these damn "leakers" man.

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Okay, then neither DLC inclusions are good in that way either, Piranha plant is a shit inclusion and so is Joker, joker even has to reuse other characters attacks just to exist, he's a pathetic inclusion on just about every level except the traditional respectful handling that Smash typically does.

Yuusha could just as easily be another FE character, since that's the name of class there

>there are people that still believe what Vergeben says

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Thread theme, we did it bros. youtube.com/watch?v=ia9uOLIzoow&t=37s

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????

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>shit inclusion
>doesn't say why
>reuse animations
>something as early as 64 does
>it's even "reusing" one or two moves from multiple characters, ergo creating its own moveset

rosterfags are the trannies of smash

Remeber the grringeleaks of christmas? Shit was so cash and everyone was BLOW THE FUCK OUT.
FUCK VERGEBEN
FUCK STEVE
FUCK EDRICK
FUCK THE JANNIES
FUCK NIGGERS

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I always start to warm up to Incineroar then people like you remind me why I disliked him in the first place

Not necessarily. The Dragon Quest 11 port for switch somehow was able to get a fully orchestrated soundtrack. So either they composed it themselves or the composer has a soft spot for nintendo.

But Vergeben was proven right with the Grinch leak being fake

Vergeben never said Steve would be in

He already explained this; he was talking about cadence of Hyrule. He assumed it was going ti be announced first (and that was his mistake), which is why he was so adamant that the Zelda that would be shown was not Link's Awakening

Verg has gotten things right in the past but with how much he’s gotten wrong recently he’s lost most his credibility

Sure it’s more than some random text leak but don’t take what he says as fact

>Missing the point this hard

Joker's inclusion was good because now all bets are fucking off. He shattered all patterns/rules for someone to get into the franchise

Sorafags finally BTFO. This feels great

I know deep down in my heart that it will be Erdrick. Which is a real shame because Gex would've been a fantastic second Square Enix representative. Given they don't care at all for the character, he'd be cheap to license and unrestricted with creative freedom.

I'm pretty sure the minecraft shit he said was before launch. I don't know why people attribute it to DLC when as far as I know he never mentioned it.

He keeps saying Minecraft content is in.

Simon and Ridley were not obvious, nor was Snake coming back.
>B-but we all saw-
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/416563853/#q416563853
Right from the start, people called bullshit on Ridley and Simon for a full month.

I actually have to agree with his first post.

Vergeben ain’t shit. That retard is going to keep guessing until he gets it right once, try to sweep all of the shit he has been wrong about under a rug, and the troglodytes who actually eat his slop will act like he’s the leak overlord.

ITT: Banjofags sweating as Vergeben is still reliable with only two mistakes on Smash (First DLC is Erdrick and Minecraft in the base game) and laughed at the idea of Banjo.

Hey just be happy your character will get in, geno sora crono neku Lara Croft other FF characters etc... fans have been much more vocal for smash over the years and will get shafted here so fuck it if people don’t like Erdrick getting in just be happy he did for yourself.

The Minecraft boss thing is something he did step back from but does admit there is some Minecraft content of some kind coming as DLC but doesn't know for sure what all that will be.
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77661676/921011882

He never said Erdrick would be revealed at the VGAs. He said the first DLC character would be Erdrick though.
LeakyPandy said the first DLC character would be revealed at the VGAs and be from Dragon Quest.

There was a miscommunication. Cadence of Hyrule was the Zelda game he heard about.
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/260142-cadence-of-hyrule-crypt-of-the-necrodancer-featuring-the/77575113

don't associate shitposters to characters

Dude, that's clearly a reference to Erdrick.
Plus, there are various color palettes they've used for him if you look at his official artworks. One of them is a red cape:
dragon-quest.org/wiki/Hero_(Dragon_Quest_III)#Gallery

Well would you look at that
Fuck Kingdom Hearts
Fuck Tetsuya Nomura
>sippppp
and FUCK SORA
Kingdom Hearts fans always acting so cocky that Sora would get in over a Dragon Quest rep and would laugh at the claim even before Erdrick leaks. You all had it coming.
Maybe next game Soraboys!

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>There's a new 2D Zelda game ;)
>A-actually yeah I totally meant a fucking Crypt of the Necrodancer game with Zelda content all along

So Steve is not 100% confirmed.
Interesting, maybe a standalone stage since, after the fighter pass is complete, we will have one empty spot on the stage selection screen.

>*ruins the credibility of the two leaks that caused people to even consider erdrick*
Nothing personal kid

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>tfw happy with anything that isn't a piece of shit like Isabelle or Incineroar

>A fake leak discredits a character
A real shame Simon and Ridley aren't in the game!

I honestly didn't care he got in. It's his falseflagging "fans" that tick me off. The only reason some people play as Heelcat fans is to act like insufferable cunts. They dont really like the character or probably even play Smash. Take this cunt for example

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>Is this the greatest smash disappointing?
No, that was Joker.

A Dragon Quest character at least has some history and ties with Nintendo, what the FUCK does a Persona character have to do with Smash or Nintendo? Nothing could be more disappointing than Joker.

Doesn't stop the Blockheads from claiming he's a lock. This is why they make me laugh. They worship Vergie-burgie's word, yet the entire premise is built on literally nothing. Then again at least 95% of Steveposters are just brainless shitposters who probably know Steve wont happen.

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That empy spot is apparently for the custom stage at the random stage select in options.

You imply that all of his fans are like that. Hint - those fags don't even play Incineroar.

In erdricks case, yes
>ridley has been a rosterfag pick for as long as the series existed
>the want for castlevania representation has been around since brawl
Meanwhile
>erdrick is an unironic literal who for 2/3rds of the world
>only brought up now because 2 leaks and ""insiders"" are jumping on it

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>some literal who who failed to predict characters blah blah blah

You need to stop delaying the inevitable user

He came back after his anal devastation? Almost impressive, if it weren't so sad.

>Vergeben still tring to stay relevant
All these leakers are fucking inconsistant as fuck except the shitstain Jason Schreier.
EVery other leaker that gets his dick sucked was wrong so many times and yet i still see people beeing stans about them

That's what I meant when I said "some" of his fans. I can bet that some of these Heelcat "fans" are from that Steve discord dedicated to raiding and shitposting threads. This cunt really comes across as one of them.

CARDS! That's the only connection to Joker other than the extremely shaky "Jack Frost" connection just because Atlus mascot.
In either case Brave being literally the guy called Brave is probably the least likely outcome.

>ridley
>genuine
Being a meme isn't genuine
Based K. Rool is okay of course

How much shit do these people have to get wrong before you realize they don't actually HAVE a source, they're just making shit up for attention?

>There was a miscommunication. Cadence of Hyrule was the Zelda game he heard about.
And he says that after Cadence was announced.

He's in

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Just like he said there was a "First party character other than Incin" coming to smash and when Plant was announced he went SEE?!?
Same old song and dance from the local palm reader. How anyone gives this man the time of day is beyond me.

Same logic can be applied to Plantfags.

Oh boy that #Plantgang hashtag died real fast didin't it ?

who

Rosterfags don't even play fucking video games. At this point I'm convinced they only exist to be angry about something.

>PLANT IS THE BEST AND MOST CREATIVE AND ORIGINAL ADDITION TO SMASH EVER I LOVE HIM AND I'M GONNA MAIN HIM FOREVER AND EVER
>he comes out and is instantly forgotten

What do DQ fans of Yea Forums think about it? And I don't mean the whole package ( Whatever that is in terms of how much we'll get, and so on ), but the choice of Erdrick. I'm curious

definitely, I can't believe we're in an age where chat dedicated to shitposting threads exist

Is this a fucking Fat Albert edit of Banjo god dammit I busted a gut at this shit fuck you

Genuinely makes the most sense. Slime would most likely be a 2nd rep if DQ ever got one, but a protagonist has to be the first rep in a series in Smash and Erdrick is the most iconic DQ Hero.
I would've preferred the first since he's my favorite but oh well, I'm just glad DQ is most likely being represented.

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> muh banjo = bad
Fuck off contrarians

the fact that no one is here to dispute you on it means its true.

To his credit, Verg knows how to work the brainlets. He says the vaguest possible shit and then retroactively attaches himself to whatever fits it best later down the line, and it works.

you conflate two different lines of thought there

>Dragon Quest
>disappointing
Fuck you western shitters

DQfags, convince me that Erdrick would be a unique and fun fighter. Everything I've seen of him makes it seem like he'd basically just be a combination of Link and Robin with some Simon/Richter thrown in. What does he actually bring to the table that's remotely interesting?

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You don't have to like or care for every character user and that's okay

Bringing something new or interesting to the table is one of Sakurai's requirements for DLC characters.

There are much better choices than Banjo. Deal with it.

>resorting to asspulling shonen jump
he's in

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Source? Joker brings barely anything interesting. His gimmick is mainly a mix between Lucario's Aura and Cloud's limit. Aside from his Persona he's just another swordfighter. Same with Corrin.

>simon and ridley were not obvious
PFFTT HAHAHAHAHA
IMAGINE ACTUALLY BELIEVING THIS

Bro Shadow has has many chances as Waluigi.

As in none. Maybe next game.

He looks like Goku

How is showing an example of a characters popularity an asspull?

I love DQ but it's just another swordsman anigay. I want a cartoon mascot like Crash, Banjo or Cuphead.

Cartoony characters are the most fun to play as and against. Pac-Man, Mega Man, Luigi, Duck Hunt, etc these are the most honest fun. Then you have swordsmen...

So you have no answer?

>You have to have a really intricate and interesting moveset for one of your most wanted characters in order to want them!
I just like Dragon Quest and would like to see it represented. That ain't a crime.

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If you know anything about the significance of DQ3 as well as how important it is in Japan, important especially to old Boomers who played this when it came out as children, ERGO Sakurai and the rest of the dev team, you can see this one a MILE away. Doubly so if you consider the data-mine. And ever MORESO if you consider the circumstances/negotiations that needed to happen so Cloud could be in the base game.

This isn’t a leak, it’s common fucking sense.

There are three characters whose absence from the roster feels odd considering how important they are to gaming + Nintendo.

They are:

Erdrick representing the Dragon Quest Franchise

Monster Hunter as Capcom’s 3rd character

Banjo-Kazooie representing all of Rareware

I would be very surprised if these three aren’t part of the Fighter’s Pass.

>If you know anything about the significance of DQ3 as well as how important it is in Japan, important especially to old Boomers who played this when it came out as children, ERGO Sakurai and the rest of the dev team, you can see this one a MILE away
That's something a lot of people want to be ignorant about because "I-It's only important in Japan!" when that doesn't really matter. Dragon Quest still has a following outside of Japan, and that's all that matters for it to happen.
Erdrick is gonna be Incineroar 2 and BTFO of Yea Forums again.

This isn't about you wanting the character or not. I want you to explain to me, as a non-DQfag, why this character is going to be worthwhile addition in terms of gameplay.

Damn... oh well. Not a bad choice I guess. But I'm still not believing the 5chan leak. That seems too coincidental. Why would Nintendo have information regarding a "PLAYSTATION" game just lying around. Who is this man that walked into Sakurai's office and was like "HMM! HIS NOTES! BETTER REVEAL THIS TO EVERYONE!" What an asshole. Ruining Sakurai's work for his pleasure.

Literally every JRPG ever owes half of its mechanics and tropes to DQ3.

Fuck, it’s especially funny when people beg for Crono, but get upset at Erdrick, when Crono is LITERALLY a watered down clone of Erdrick, even down to his abilities. MC having lightning abilities and healing WAS INVENTED IN DQ3!!

Ok fine. An user in another thread made a whole idea on how his specials can be using moves from different party members to help him, kawhoosh from the priest to recover, heave-ho from the martial artist as a command throw, etc.
And then again he could be a magic/sword user without a limit like how Robin does with his tomes, but that's apparently not good enough and so will the previous idea probably.
Now where's that source that a DLC character HAS to have something new to bring to the table?

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That's exactly what people were saying back then. Check the thread, that's the day Vergeben leaked Ridley and Simon.
>Ridley? Yeah it's fake
>Implying we are getting Simon before Bomberman
Repeat for one month until Ridley's reveal.
Now either you bring proof that those two were obvious before Verg's leak or you fuck off with your revisionism.

He also claimed Minecraft content was in the base game and that the first character would be a Square Enix character. He also claimed that Granblue and Steve would make it. But quickly backpedaled when he was given the slightest bit of doubt. Honestly, I just want him to keep his big mouth shut, I want this to be a surprise.

>his specials can be using moves from different party members
I mean have different party members come in and help battle as his specials, brain fart.

Is it ruining his work or helping his work by conditioning people to the idea ahead of time so they're not as disappointed?
Incineroar definitely benefited from being leaked ahead of time, whether or not people want to admit it.

sourcegaming.info/2015/09/26/sakurai-on-character-choices/

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There is A LOT of Dragon Quest games.
Each game has some iconic items, weapons and magic.
Of course they could make a simple and boring "swordmen" character with him, but they can also make a multiple weapon user ala Link (which is not your typical swordmen character) but more oriented into magic attacks.
Some weapons you can use in the DQ series: Sword, Axe, Boomerang, Whip, Bow, Spear, Dagger, Flail, Hammer,...

Not him, but basically picture Smash 4 Link, except trade items for Magic. And make one of his specials Healing magic. Now thrown in a Mana resource management gimmick with MP that builds as you move (a callback to a special armor in DQ1), but is consumed for all your special attacks. That’s more or less how you do the character justice. Instead of making all his normals sword slashes though, give him a shield bash and a boomerang too. Magic is primarily healing and lightning, and comes in three tiers. The longer you hold it to cast it, the more powerful, adding in good risk/reward.

Or just take any moveset anyone has ever suggested for Crono, as Erdrick can literally do the exact same.

Read

I'm still not 100% convinced, but these are the kinds of answers I was looking for. Thanks.

Reminder that Vergeben never leaked any of the DLC correctly, and never will. Stop listening to this fool.

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Think of Robin as a sword user who uses magic. Erdrick can be a magic user who uses a sword.
While Robin has his magic only on his specials, Erdrick can use magic in basic moves, woosh as a dash attack, bang as an up air. Hell they can even use evac as his air dodge/roll.

You do realize Sakurai does what he wants and gives zero fucks about your made up arbitrary rules, right? Hell, he breaks his OWN rules all the time. If he wants Erdrick cause he had fond memories of playing DQ3 as a kid (which he likely does) you’re getting fucking Erdrick, and you’re dealing with it.

I guarantee you literally everyone on the dev team is a fan of that game, that’s how monumentally big it was.

3., 6., 7., and 11. Are prime examples on why I don't think Steve can make the cut. Sorry, dead meme.

>P-please s-stop listening to him
If you don't believe him, why does it bother you that others do?

He can also cast Snooze to put an opponent to sleep, use Zoom to teleport, and Kaclang to turn himself invincible but can't move (which would kinda be like Kirby)

There are a lot of things that altogether would create a character unlike any other due to his overall kit.

That's without even bringing up how they could take creative liberties by giving Erdrick either Tension from DQ8 and the Dragon Quest Heroes games or Pep Up from 11 as an ability to buff all of his attacks and defense.

Because people get suckered. In which they believe him when things are correct. Then when he gets one thing wrong. People hate on him. Rinse and repeat.

Erdrick completely fills the bill.

He never broke his rules for 95% of the Nintendo characters (only explained that DHD, G&W, Rob and Piranha Plant were exceptions, once per game) and certainly not for third-party characters.

>generic anime boy from a game that's not even on the switch
>shitty generic jrpg anime swordsman with a determined expression
POST YFW YOU DIDN'T BUY THE FIGHTER PASS

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>Your arbitrary rules
Sakurai's rules but ok.

>Your getting Erdrick and you're dealing with it.
Calm down, I never said I didn't want the guy in. Just putting down some source like user asked.

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>GameFAQs

Are leakfags the most retarded group on Yea Forums?

Yes.

fucking based
I knew it was gonna be shit from the moment plant was revealed

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Dragon Quest 1, 2 and 3 that were released on PS4 and 3DS back in 2017 in Japan are going to be ported to Switch later this year worldwide to coincide with Erdrick coming to SSBU.

Oh and big ol' spoiler alert:
Dragon Quest XI is connected to the Erdrick trilogy games.

Imagine not owning both consoles and not having played a Dragon Quest game. Yea Forums is filled with more underaged console war faggots and people who don't actually play games than anywhere else. Fuck you.

Besides 3, Steve is unique in a sense he is from a sandbox game and can remodel the world around him at will. So he could literally use blocks to place on the stage and in his moveset.

I don't see any other characters from sandbox games where you can create anything you want. The closest is Villager but he cannot modify the world besides adding plants

Just give us fucking sexy Agnes

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Doesn't matter how good you claim your shitty jrpg is. Edrick will play just like Cloud or Robin, your stage will bring its forgettable JRPG orchestral music, and you're gonna eat up that shit either way.

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He's referring to Joker with the first point

Yea Forums is underaged because no one gives a fuck about dragon quest except for the people in japan? Ok then, sorry I haven't played your precious RPG

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>not even on the switch
Like most of the series represented in Smash.
Like, you know, Persona 5.
Retard.

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As a DQfag, sure. I'll eat that shit up. Enjoying video games is pretty fun, you should try it sometime. Although I doubt rosterfags play games in the first place.

Who the fuck is Edrick? What game is that even from?

I'm referring to console war fags with that. Guess Yea Forums can't read either.

What kind of fucking proof is that?

I'm a Metroid fan and I think RIdley deserves it after being in so many of Samus's games and the Metroid series is ripe for making playable villains.

Is anyone surprised? Most smash characters are from Jap RPGs anyway. Sakurai can make it up to me when Master Chief is revealed at E3.

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He's some Goku ripoff from some old weebshit

if squareenix even has a DLC slot there's a 99% chance its a fucking lame ass pick

everything that company does is a fucking joke

If they get another character it'll be fucking Noctis

That blurry image was easy to guess being fake.

>Didnt predict Joker or Plant
>Continues to change his stance on Minecraft every other day

Yeah he has no idea about any of the DLC lets be honest

Not that easy apparently since 90% of Yea Forums believed the Grinch leak over leakers

FUCK OFF
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They were dumb expecting that many characters when close to release.

Placing blocks on the stage breaks Smash Bros. Steve is never happening. Enjoy your shitty Mii costume IF you even manage that.

The best leakers are the ones that only leak once and don't try to make a name for themselves.

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That's like worst case scenario right fucking there.

That'd be like taking a fresh shit right on the case.

you do realize part of people believing it was the idea it was possibly a banner showing all dlc as well, there were a lot of maybes ith the grinch leak but a lot of evidence too, in the end it was wrong of course but if you think people were being stupid believing it you're either lying or weren't here for it.

Hey they guessed right some of the time!

the code names actually are codenames. joker was called jack, arsene was called doyle, of all things. jane is probably kasumi.
piranha plant only had its name because it was base roster and was moved to dlc for time constraints.

brave being erdrick is a red herring. its probably a namco or capcom character next.

Doyle as in Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes? That'd be because Aresné Lupin and Holmes often clashed in Lupin's books. He wasn't Public Domain at the time so he was changed to Herlock Sholms for a time and only switched back in later releases.

oh i see, that does make sense.
still, the point is that its much more of a mental leap than "brave = what erdrick is called".

If you read the Classic Mode credits in Ultimate you can see Wender Lee is credited together with the rest of the voice actors
Except she doesn't voice anyone in the game currently since Lyn uses her old voice clips
Oh, but you know who she voices who also has "Brave" in her name, from a game were the main character order is called "Weiss Brave" in JP?
Here's your Brave bro

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retard

>Erdrick

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I definitely think Brave being Erdrick is too obvious. Almost nobody would have guessed Jack was Joker if we didn't already know Joker was going to be in the game before the datamine, and I think the same will apply to the other characters.

Perfect fit desu

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People still believe this idiot?

Sweetie joker sucks because he’s not on my bing bing wahoo

Vergeben said nothing about Steve, though?

facts

Do you think Nintendo will even be knocked down from their choice
>Hi Nintendo I’m Phil Spencer, and I want Banjo in Smash
>no. We rant Minecraft Steve. We give rots of money
>are you sure? I mean, I DID say I would be cool with Ba-
>NO. STEVE, OR NO BUSINESS NO MONEY
>ok. Steve it is. Besides, I DO love money

Give it up, Shadowbro. Don't become a partisan for every boomer pick just because we didn't get our boi. I'd much rather have an actual fun character from a game that people under 30 care about.

>incineroar got in with his own self
>Shillmon
>Getting in on his own

You shitposters are hilarious. It's gonna be even more hilarious when we get Steve and Erdrick.

For all he knows, Steve could just be a Mii Costume and some spirits, which is my entire point.

If anything that disconfirms Erdrick. Virginbitch has always been fatally and fundamentally wrong when it comes to smash fighter leaking.

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He didn't get Piranha Plant though, he was just as wrong.

It's pretty sad that Inshiteroarfags feel the need to cling to every single mention of Vergeben or the Grinch leak to remain relevant outside of Smash general.

based

Incineroarfags are worthless assholes who will never win at anything, just like Erdrickfags. Two birds of a feather flock together.

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They reference this in P5, as well

>Believing Virginben after the grand BTFO

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It's Vergeben who BTFO the Smashfaggots who really thought irrelevant shit like Banjo, Isaac and Geno would get in before Incineroar and PP.

Wow, when you put it like that, that sounds lame as shit.

>never win at anything
>Is in Smash

Ya ding-dong diddly seethin lil guy?

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>and PP
But he didn't claim that you retard.

Not a victory when you consider the fact that Incineroar is bottom tier.

You forgot
>only fans are contrarians that spend all day defending him
>Leddit and Gamefaqs literally had to go on damage control to silence how many people were shitting on him

I never said he claimed that, you illiterate shit.

Next DLC char will be someone that is lying low among the popular picks like Lloyd or Nakoruru and the shitpost with Banjo, Erdrick and Sorafags will continue

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can you imagine all the fresh ampharos porn we'd get

is this perhaps the most reddit post to ever be made on Yea Forums?

Imagine being so gullible and retarded that you believe vergebitch, of all people.

Erdrincels are asking to get BTFO'd by believing vergebitch.

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Reminder.

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That filename didn't age well

>had Minecon playing while I was playing Symphony of the Night on my Vita out of curiosity
>fucking Minecraft: Refugee Edition educational game announced
>blatant alt-left propaganda to portray Europeans as evil and Middle Easterners as oppressed by evil Europeans
I got a good laugh out of that, at least.

Incineroar is consistently trash tier and is still the most hated pokemon of all time, if anything it has aged like wine.

This is fake, Vergeben never said Steve was going to be playable in Smash.

This is the whole truth about what Vergeben got right, got wrong, and what is uncertain:

ssbwiki.com/list_of_rumors#Vergeben_leaks

I mean, Dragon Quest 11 is coming to the fucking switch. All trolling aside, he's probably going to be the SE rep.

I'm a banjo fag though, was also Geno, but SE destroyed that hope long ago.

It's probably going to be Edrick with a Geno costume .

I don't have any emotional connection with the guy, but if I'm going to get yet ANOTHER anime swordsman, at least it's not from fucking fire emblem

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Brehs
I just want a DQ hero as a DLC fighter

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Don't worry, Smash discussions always end up as secondaries screaming at each other with no one talking about the games. Which DQs are your favourite? Mine are a little cliche - III, V and VIII.

Sephiroth or anybody else from FF should been in instead of Erdrick in the game to bring more FF representation that FF fans deserve.

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Literally the worst FF pick possible after Noctis.

I want Sakurai to say that Noctis was planned but cancelled.

Daily reminder that all the Vegreben haters believed in the Grinch leak.

strawpoll.me/16731435/r

>The code name is Brave
I can't fucking wait for the uproar

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Daily reminder that the grinch leak is irrelevant to the fact that vergeben is a fraud.

>most hated pokemon
He's only hated by salty rosterfags like you lol

>Is this the greatest smash disappointing?
To me it's like an early Christmas.
>Get a character from my favorite GBC games. (I know it's a remake, whatever)
>Rekt western pigs, smash cliques and DS generation people.
DQ is also the best fit for smash, way better than Persona.

3, 5 and 7.

I played DQ 1+2 on my Gameboy Color as kid, so they'll always resonate with me even if their actions aren't the most memorable.
I also like heroes you pointed out plus VI.

How is he a fraud? Please check and tell me how is he a fraud if all he said was correct minus the SE character being first (he will be second anyways) and the Minecraft content not seen yet (might be DLC)?

Nips really took the DQ leaks to heart, I wonder how much rage there would be if they aren't in, especially if it's a western character.

Have you seen any of his other leaks? Also predicting easy guesses (everyone saw Ridley, Simon and Incineroar coming) doesn't make him legitimate.

The best selling RPG of the 80s

>everyone saw Ridley, Simon and Incineroar

Ridley? Yes
Simon? Not til Verge.
Incineroar? Nigga, people were trying to discredit the idea of him in Smash at every turn. Remember the leakerbait narrative?

No, Ridley, Simon and Snake were not obvious, this is just revisionism.

>Also predicting easy guesses (everyone saw Ridley, Simon and Incineroar coming)
No, no one expected Ridley because his spot was denied twice.
Simon was almost never discussed before Vergeben's leak, lol.
And Incineroar... Just look at the leaks from the Grinch era, everyone was certain they would skip a Pokemon newcomer.

>(he will be second anyways)
And then you'll say he's the third, then the fourth, and the fifth. We're more likely to get zero additional SE characters than a literal who like Cuckrick.

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>Ridley
>Simon
>Easy
Zoomer

>make wild predictions
>people go nuts
>because even if you're wrong sometimes
>that means sometimes you're right

Crash Bandicoot for Smash.

Whatever fills your hallow life, pal

Theories were really wild back then.

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Can't wait for Erdrick to be in so Yea Forums does an 180 and suddenly starts to echo all the reasons given by DQfags as to why Erdrick is a fitting/likely pick and then say they were an easy guess anyway like

I was thinking about that too.
I imagine him being in cruel Multi-man smash which he places blocks under the Battlefield so he can camp here.

>mfw female Erdrick isn't playable

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Denialfags are really funny, they change history to accomodate to their viewpoint.

>still beliving Virginben

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But Dragon Quest IS a safe pick and anyone who isn't braindead knows it's one of the most likely 3rd part to get a rep.
And DQ3 is the most popular DQ making Erdrick the safe pick character of a safe pick franchise, along with like, Slime.

>Incineroar is consistently trash tier
Because K.Rool, Ridley and the Belmonts are on a much better spot, right ?

>still doubting Vergeben

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Yeah, remember when Steve, Phoenix Wright, Zero, and Tails were announced? Based Verge is always right about Smash!

I am just waiting for Sora to be confirmed so "insiders" and Erdrickfags can fuck off forever.

I don't find that likely at all, most characters who have a female alt have her represented in Smash

He came back a day later to say it was fake.

>I-I'm going to u-use an unrelated source to s-show that Vergeben is w-wrong despite him coming back 12 hours l-later to confirm i-it was fake
>Haha showed him

DQfags will always be here now, Slime was already a common pick anyway. It's more likely that KH4 will arrive in less than 10 years than for the western DQ fanbase to just disappear after decades of fighting bullshit.

I'd love a DQ rep, but another sword user is meh. DQ is quirky, give us a monster, give us something different!

LOL they completely ripped off the Dragon Ball Z artstyle for this shitty game

>unironically making excuses for frauds

>grinchtard still seething

At this point you just cannot do anything different, does your character body slam like other characters do? ECHOOOOOO

Verginbergin obviously had info regarding the base game (likely from very early on in development) but what reason do we have to believe him about DLC? He didn't guess the Plant, he didn't guess Joker, his supposed SE character that was supposed to be revealed at TGA hasn't come to fruition and looks less likely by the day, and his most recent "leak" regarding the last Direct was completely bogus. If Erdrick gets in than sure, that's fine and dandy, but it's not like he's the only person saying he's in. What happens next from that point?

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>Shadow fag

>If Erdrick gets in than sure, that's fine and dandy, but it's not like he's the only person saying he's in.
Not the only one but the first of all leakers to mention a DQ character coming.

A sword/magic user with classic DQ SFX is good enough for me, though Slime is fine as well. The big problem to me is that picking Slime is weirdly something a lot of DQ haters wants, so there is a certain catch to it.

akira toriyama plaigarized himself

I'm honestly really happy Joker (my most wanted) got in both because he was my most wanted and also because it BTFO a lot of "insiders." Same thing with the Link's Awakening remake. People who still believe Vergeben at this point are just asking to be proven wrong. He's been wrong LITERALLY since the release of the game, and maybe since Piranha Plant.
Reminder that when Piranha Plant was revealed he said
>I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS BUT I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME

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Just like how Banjo got any future he could’ve had shot down by Rare

>>if erdrick does get in everyone will hate him thanks to the rosterfaggotry due to virginben
Literally only Yea Forums and Gamefaqs are autistic enough to do that. Hell, the only people still complaining about the Plant, Incineroar or even Corrin are either on Yea Forums or on Gamefaqs.

Didn’t Vergeben also confirm that the first DLC character was Square, and then later tried to claim that plans were changed at the last minute even though that makes no sense?
Oh and he said Microsoft was in the base game

>BRAVE IS A RED HERRING
>INCINEROAR IS LEAKBAIT
>AAAAAA PLEASE DONT LET THIS HARMLESS CHARACTER INTO MY FAVORITE GAME
Pathetic

He mentioned a SE rep and gave a list that would obviously have the latest protagonist, the most reccuring protagonist and the series mascot for Square-Enix's second best selling series. I do believe the Seven Square list was Square's proposed characters and Sakurai picked from the list, obviously going for the one he enjoyed the most, but there is no proof it wasn't just a lost of the most likely SE picks.

Erdrick would be cool if his specials were actual RPG mechanics instead of just slapping a limit meter on him

"Leak culture" shit has been around for a long time but it's gotten pretty bad in the past few years. I remember it starting to amp up during the NX rumor days.

Nothing. Verg hasn't guessed any other DLC character, he doesn't even back Steve anymore.

I feel the same exact way. Remember when people on Yea Forums didn't care about E-Celebs? Now we get threads about literal people who post on message boards.

>Vergeben laughed at banjo
Wtf I love Vergeben now

Here's your DLC
>Joker
>Leon with Claire echo
>Sora
>Doomguy
>Banjo

Steve is like 99% in

its also because there are almost zero "he's gonna get in THIS TIME" picks because ridds and rool finally got in.

they are SCRAPING the bottom and joker BTFO of everyone by being a true JOKER card and no one at all leaking or picking him just proves that all leakers and shit should never be listened to.

WHAT? Vergeben confirmed something?!? Holy shit! Then it must be true! Woooooow. I mean the guy have never been wrong right? He definitely knew everything that have been revealed so far. How pleasant to have someone who knows everything and can determine stuff without ever having been wrong.

Yes, he did. He said there would be a Minecraft boss in the base game, and even went as far as to say his source SAW MC content being played in game as far back as June.
He also said Erdrick was supposed to be revealed at the VGAs but plans changed, which is weird because if he was supposed to be revealed earlier than Joker, you would think they would have revealed him within the 5 months between Joker's reveal and his release.

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>one of
Dude has until 2020 to be proved wrong. Convenient.

>he doesn't even back Steve anymore.
He still backs up Minecraft content in Smash, and heard other leakers saying the same thing, and at least two confirming Steve being playable.
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77661676?jumpto=104#104
Minecraft seems to be the second agreed stuff among insiders, after Erdrick being playable.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if Nintendo of Japan had to pick bewteen banjo or Steve they’d pick Steve, banjo is a long shot

rosterfagging aside those really were the days

What's the matter little one? Still upset about the Grinch? Oh no no no no no no no no. Everyone wants the insiders to be wrong but they're almost always right you know. Get some rest sweetie, maybe Sora will be in the next one.

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What's more likely, user?
>Virginben is actually an industry insider with contact with a team that likely doesn't have a single person fluent in English
or
>He just guessed a bunch of popular characters and hoped for the best.
This is Gematsu 2.0. A retard gets btfo'd, and all his stupid followers pretend he has some sort of "early insider knowledge because he got lucky!"

Steve would BTFO Yea Forums harder then Erdrick could ever dream of

Erdrick being released at the VGAs makes so sense, because that animated trailer would have taken months to complete. Plus from all the recent P5 marketing this was certainly calculated long in advance

THINGS VERGEBEN HAS GOTTEN RIGHT SINCE INCINEROAR:
>another nintendo character in smash (he did NOT say Piranha Plant, just "a nintendo character")

THINGS VERGEBEN HAS GOTTEN WRONG SINCE INCINEROAR
>"My source saw playable Minecraft content in the base game" - June 2018
>"There is a Minecraft boss" - Two weeks before the game release, after the entire game sold early
>"An SE character will be revealed at the VGAs"
>"Plans changed, Joker was rushed to be revealed before Erdrick" (Even though we heard nothing about Erdrick in the 5 months since Joker's reveal)
>"There is a new 2D Zelda game coming out and it definitely ISN'T Link's Awakening"

the only gematsu character that hasn't happened is chorus kids

inb4 some retard brings up "b-but Isaac AT", ignoring that most people expected Isaac to return as an AT.

Show me a leaker who predicted Joker and MAYBE I'll believe them. The 5ch leaks don't count because they were disproven.

The Gematsu leak was legit.
Data for a Rythm Heaven character was found as well as Sakurai considering Chrom in Smash.

>Banjofags think Phil will crusade for their bear
Pathetic

Reminder that none of Smash 4's DLC was actually leaked by insiders.
>b-but Tansut
Lucky guesser like Virginbin. If he actually knew anything, he would've mentioned the Geno costume. Also a one-hit wonder. He wouldn't know anything about a completely different game years later.

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He didn't say anything about the vgas that the was leakypandy, he never said he saw the Minecraft character playable that was hitagi. Even if he said a square character would be revealed first, the order doesn't matter at all. If he knows erdrick is the character he's still right about it even if he ends up being the last character revealed.

Chrom was never seriously considered and the early pitch shows that Robin was one of the first newcomers decided on. Get fucked Gematsu dick sucker.

Is Sterdrick the new Kencineroar

He absolutely did say the VGAs, and he did say it would be a Square character.
>Even if he said a square character would be revealed first, the order doesn't matter at all
Yes it does. For someone who was THAT safe with all of his predictions, not saying EXACTLY when characters would be revealed, saying a time and getting it wrong means, get this, that he was wrong.

Not in the slightest. Ken and Incineroar had things going for them. One is an easy echo fighter and the other is a Pokemon, every game gets a new one of those.
Most leakers don't even think Steve is in, and Erdrick has been part of mtiple predictions and "leaks" that got proven wrong already.

>Data for a Rythm Heaven character was found
I bet you think the ballot was rigged, too.

I wouldn't be impressed if MC gets a mii costume and the extra non-pass stage slot.

Sora shouldn't be in Smash until KH1-3 are in Nintendo consoles.

>even went as far as to say his source SAW MC content being played in game as far back as June.
HAHAHAHHAHA what a bunch of lying fags.

How many leakers even fucking are there? The popular ones are Xenother, Hitagi and Vergeben and they’ve all said Steve and Erdrick are in

Actual leakers?
None.
Attention whores pretending to have leaks?
Too many.

weren't the first two on gamecube?

Minecraft isn’t getting a stage without a character

This feel like that post talking about how the grinch leak was made by a genius mastermind

Oh wow, a second Robin instead of something unique. How amazing.
I'd much rather have Slime but keep the rest like Steve and shit because we all fucking know Erdrick will just be Robin with Zelda Specials.

What will DQ fags do once the leak is fake?

What has Hitagi gotten right in terms of Smash?
Vergeben has not said Steve in a long time and his claims on Minecraft content have been proven wrong, considering he said it would be in the base game AND his sources saw playable Minecraft content.
>Xenother
Literally who?

No, but four out of the 9 games released first on DS/3DS/GBA

Vergeben still backs Minecraft and Xenother is popular

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Doesn't matter. He said Minecraft would be in the base game and that his sources saw playable Minecraft content. That's not something he can get away from.

Yes. It's people refusing the disappointing truth.

nice list user probably a lie but it's still nice if true

Play any of the three DQ games arriving on the switch, being hyped for the fabled DQ3 remake in unity engine that is said to be in the work and also ready for the eventual DQ9 remake.
What will Banjo and Genofags do once they are not in Smash? Hell, what will Sorafags do in the decade gap until the next KH? The only good thing DQ takes out of Smash is some presence in the west, it's not like it is for Geno and Banjo, life or death.

whys that

What would be your amazing and novel characters?

So, what you’re saying is that they’ll seethe

Fighter pass comes with stage, music and a fighter

>l-l-l-l-lucky guess
>b-b-b-b-b-but order does matter
Literal cope

He's been right many times. I hope he was right about The World Ends With You getting a sequel.

>People still listen to Virgincuck
He's been wrong about multiple things yet is still acting so full of himself. Why can't people understand he's just seeking attention now?

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Can you deny that if any banjofag was magically given the opportunity to get the same amount of dedication from the devs as DQ they would take it?

Order does matter, as does blatantly false statements like the Link's Awakening and Minecraft things.

>a Nintendo character will be revealed for Smash in the last direct
>hehehe its piranha plant, see, I called it the whole time;)
>a new 2D Zelda will be revealed at the direct
>hehehe I was talking about the Crypt of the Necrodancer game the whole time;)
You're a delusional retard.

*AHEM* I've come to make an announcement, Despite making up 13% of Yea Forums's population, Smashfags commit 53% of all the stink

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There are slots for 6 new stages, but only 5 will come from the pass

Why is it that the shit that leakers and GX double down on and lock in is always some of the most disappointing bullshit possible?

>B-but Banjo
I like how you didn’t even deny that you’d seethe

No amount of shitposting will ever make shadow anything but cringeworthy zoomercore edge

There are some characters that don't get leaked k. Rool, Bayonetta, Mewtwo, even cloud almost got in without being known, I really think the brave codename is what gives it away just like Roy and Ryu. The leakers probably hounded their sources about the datamined name and they eventually had to cave in.

Proof

t. Assblasted Tailstard

Of course I would seethe a bit, I care about the character, but it isn't the end of the world

I literally have no idea who vergeben, edrick, or any other person or character named in this thread are
what the fuck are you babbling about? who gives a fuck about a character reveal for an arcade party brawler?

The Brave code name is confirmation bias at its finest. People act like they'd TOTALLY be able to get Joker from "Jack" even though that doesn't really make any sense so they come up with ways to connect Brave to the character of their choice.

Slime, Steve, Doomguy and Ryu Hayabusa. Give Steve a Herobrine skin for one of his palettes and base Doomguy off the 1993 design, throw in his hud icon too that changes as you take more damage.

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Got to say I think brave is banjo maybe sakurai likes pixar

You're right.

>5ch leak with the DQ character switched with another DQ character
No better than Grinchies.

Brave is slime screenshot this

i predict that there will be a new 3D mario game within the next 3 years
give me leaker status

Well I mean do you really want Erdrick when doesn't bring anything unique? You can blame FE for already claiming the swordsman with magic slot.

I don't want Erdrick or Steve, no.

>trusting "leaks" or "datamines"
I got Grinched once. The only thing I trust are official reveal videos.

Seeing an excessive amount of cope in this thread. Just accept it Yea Forums there's always next game.

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Steve I think you could make somewhat unique but honestly a block placing gimmick would be broken and it's very unlikely we'd see something like lingering/splash potions for a special.
personally i'd prefer blox over blocks.

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Reminder.

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>confirmed by vergayben
>no one will call him out on his bullshit until 2020

HOLY SHIT BROS IT'S... IT'S... *waits for name to appear* ELDRITCH! I ONLY PLAYED 11 FOR 2 HOURS AND THE SLIME GAME BUT I'M TOTALLY A HUGE FAN OF THIS SERIES! HAHA HE LOOKS LIKE GOHAN THIS IS SO AMAZING!

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Erdrick being in is not surprising since it's a well-known classic Franchise, people have talked about it for awhile now. I'll be surprised if it's not him.

I really liked watching the Joker reaction videos for this. At least some people were honest with their confusion, others clearly tried to BS their way through

Vergeben gets some right information and some wrong information, but unfortunately since there's no way to tell which is which, that only makes him about 3-5 times more accurate than your average fanboy/fake leaker. So it's still worth considering what he says as being a strong possibility but it's not enough to really confirm anything.

Simon was the best, since Richter absolutely fucking annihilated posers and casuals trying to bank off of minimal knowledge gleamed from the leaks.

Hey, Rocket slime was fun.

>OH YEAH SIMON BELMONT
>And... Rich-ter? Who?

Yeah and Radditz is in DBFZ an Steve was revealed at Minecon

>it's a well-known classic Franchise

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>"Erdrickfags"
>"Stevefags"
>Leakfags
>Rosterfags
Reminder to never listen to their lies. What the future beholds is what we will wait to see, not what some false leaker will shit out every five seconds.

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Monster Hunter got a boss without a character.

Joker got in without P5 on Switch.

Not that guy but I’m confused. Are you implying that DQ isn’t a well known classic franchise, or are you just saying that Erdrick isn’t

That image is a derivative of this one, which was around as early as August or September.

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He's shitposting, anyone who posts a Geno is a walking husk.

The absolute state of Newground Zoomers

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But he has. 3 times at that, and 3 times more than Steve ever got.

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Ask anyone on the street what a Dragon Quest is and they'll think it's some board game or movie.

Yes, everyone should be allowed to want whatever character they want, unless its Erdrick.

>Different series get treated differently,
Colour me surprised, I thought everything was equal in the smash world.

Thank you based toad. Let's hope Sakurai himself put some type of battletoad content in Smash.

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Go back to Gamefaqs, "Sweetie".

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Didn't Sakurai himself in his latest tweet said he's sick of people thinking every game he plays have something to do with Smash

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How do you know? You got a business degree? Do you work with Nintendo to know their business plans? No? Then piss off, your opinion means Jack shit.

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Good thing that is not the argument here.

I am in Tokyo right now, lol

Remember when Rex was guaranteed because Sakurai liked Xenoblade 2? Erdrincels are pathetic.

>Sakurai literally tweets STOP READING EVERY TWEET OF MINE AS A SMASH HINT
>People still do it anyway
Holy fuck, get a life.

I mean sakurai literally took time out of the last direct to explain why Rex wasn't in. So the point still stands.

>5ch aka the leak that started this all says that Persona 5 for Switch coming in the first half of 2019
>Persona 5 not even coming on Switch and in October
Yeah I think Erdrickfags are BTFO

>Cherry picking to benefit your opinion
Lmao

5ch been debunked my guy.

More like
>WHAT THE FUCK? IT WAS SORA'S TURN! ITS MY GIRLFRIEND'S FAVORITE GAME!!

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>Jack Frost is a part of Joker's moveset
>Persona 5 is coming to Switch
>P5U is coming out soon
>P5R is coming out within the first half of the year
Yeah, I'm thinking both 5ch leaks got BTFO.

>I make a post that has nothing to do with "DQ will be in because Sakurai plays DQ"
>Average rosterfag just assumes its that because they are too low IQ to read the context
This is pathetic.

How am I cherry picking? I've never taken a tweet by Sakurai or any of Nintendo as a hint. Stop projecting.

Reminder that the FE boys were supposed to be cut in the western release of Melee and Sakurai thought Mother 3 was getting localized. He can't add Erdrick as DLC because nobody knows who he is. Roy and Lucas were only DLC because Americans knew them from Smash.

Still have the brave codename, just cause a leak is fake doesn't mean every character on that leak can't be in the game. Look at the funky leak that had k rool on it.

I don't know how people can still deny his inclusion. He was literally, LITERALLY datamined already. Dragon Quest is probably the most influential game series still not represented in Smash, Sakurai likes the series, it has a shit ton of Nintendo history, Dragon Quest 3 is the most popular one, hes fucking in whether you like it or not.

user was clearly using the image to debunk the genofag with Miyamoto and Iwata showering DQ with compliments.

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Confirmation bias.
Nobody would have gotten Joker out of "Jack" if that name was all we had. Anyone who says we would is fucking ridiculous. Nobody thought fucking JOKER of all characters would be in Smash.
Brave could be just as vaguely referring to any other character but dumbasses immediately assume it's Erdrick because of confirmation bias.

>Believing this
Yikes

DQ sells a lot more than either of those, DQ3 alone almost outsells the entire FE franchise. So nah, don't patternfag on me.

>Implying sales matter AT ALL
user, don't be stupid. By this point, you should know that sales aren't the deciding factor of characters getting in, otherwise we'd have a Tetris character by now.

>He was literally, LITERALLY datamined already
Pakku is P for Piranha Plant
Jack is J for Joker
Brave is B for Banjo
The stats don't fit a swordfighter at all.

It could also be referring to Ederick you dumb denial fag.

You guys literally do this EVERY SINGLE TIME.
You try to find all these reasons for a character you dont like not being in the game even though theres all this obvious evidence that they are in the game and then you convince themselves that they arent getting in, lo and behold they get in and you get mad.

Just fucking stop.

Stats are placeholder

Yes, it COULD refer to Erdrick. I already got my most wanted in the game, I don't care who else gets in. I don't care whether or not he gets in, but LITERALLY all we have to go off of is a fucking adjective that could refer to almost any fucking character under the sun with enough twisting, just like Jack for Joker.
It isn't "obvious evidence" you dumb leak worshiper.

I got the source of that Lucas thing.
Dunno about the FE thing the other user was talking about but I'll try to find it.

twitter.com/AllSourceGaming/status/728252930382422016?s=19

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Not him, but didn't Joker have the same if not similar stats from the datamine

Almost all of Dragon Quests sales are in Japan. That's the point being made here.

This
Vergeben had a great track record for the base game but he's 0 for 2 on the DLC so far
Nobody should take him seriously

>placeholder that obviously makes reference to DQ, pretty much every promotional material for DQ has Brave
>Every leaker under the sun saying said character is in

ITs ok to be skeptical, but the legnths some of you guys go through just to deny a character you dont like is abusrd.

I get they aren’t mutually exclusive, I just think it’s worth noting that absolutely NO ONE was talking about Erdrick before the 5ch leak

I don't give a shit who gets in, as long as Dante is one of them

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Neither Lucario nor Cloud have a Stand though

Do you hear yourself right now? Do you think Sakurai gives a shit about something like this? This is the guy who put Corrin in the game, a character from a game that wasnt even out yet in Japan.

At least Ederick is a retro character from a 30 year old RPG

>He was literally, LITERALLY datamined already.
Oh and just look at all this proof user posted to back up his claims! What a reasonable and evident thing to do. Now I am truly convinced of your argument. I mean how could I even argue against that very real proof you posted?

>smash fanbase: no more anime swordfighters!
>also smash fanbase: give us erdrick!
wtf bros

I’m mostly skeptical about it since the leakers didnt even mention the possibility until the 5ch leak. Not to mention, why would they give him a codename if the code was incredibly obvious? They knew dataminers were a thing ever since they found Roy and Ryu

This still leads to higher worldwide sales. Japan isn't on mars as far as I know.

>fellow mobilefag didn't even post the rest of the post
he's literally calling out 5ch leak fags as grinchies.

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>pretty much every promotional material for DQ has Brave
Nope, only poorly translated ones. Yuusha properly translates to hero.
>Every leaker under the sun saying said character is in
Looks like Skull Kid, Shadow, and the Chorus Kids are in!

That pic ignores the fact that the coconut machine still exists and the worker who ran it, which is why the soviet union became a super power in a fraction of the time murica did. Once again proving the only people who think captilism works is submissive twinks who like being chadsworth's inferior because he had a trustfund and they didn't. Pathetic desu.

Do you really think Japanese people are so cucked they wouldn't place a character just because America doesn't want them?

Alright, i'll bite here. If Brave doesnt refer to Ederick, then who the fuck is it?

dumb and wrong faker

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>placeholder that obviously makes reference to DQ, pretty much every promotional material for DQ has Brave
Marketing for DQ uses Brave.
FF has spin-offs with the word "Brave" in their titles.
Fire Emblem Heroes' Order of Heroes is called "Brave Weiss" in Japan.
Bravely Default as a series.
See, without even stretching it, here are three other series that use the word Brave. Again, Jack only VAGUELY referred to Joker, so I don't get how people can act like it's an "obvious hint."
>Every leaker under the sun saying said character is in
Oh, that's why. You believe people on the internet and let them influence your own decisions as to what a SINGLE adjective in a game's code could mean.

>Sales
Doesn't matter
>Retro, Old
Doesn't matter

“Erdrick is one of the Fighter’s Pass characters”

That means exactly what it means. He’s still wrong and still a fagoot though

It could be literally fucking anybody. There's no pattern to the codenames currently and nothing conclusive can be drawn from any of the actual values that were datamined.

>Erdrick with the Cypress Stick
Screencap this.

Lol that never happened

>DQ invented fantasy

Japan didn't even vote for him. They pushed for a fucking goomba because it's the only thing westerners know about the series.

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What the fuck is this shitty 2009 ass bait? Fuck off shithead.

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>There's going to be a new 2D zelda game and it is definetly not Link's awakening. I emphasize that it is NOT link's awakening
>it is exactly link's awakening
>OH DID I SAY 2D ZELDA I MEANT CRYPT OF THE NECRODANCER DLC. MY SOURCE DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE AND HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT LINK'S AWAKENING AND HE WAS WRONG AND NOT ME. PLEASE BELIEVE ME

Educated guessfags should be purged.

That is a most likely character poll.
web.archive.org/web/20101116215557/http://www.dragonquest.jp:80/popup/ranking_character.html

>yep it's him

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ay? cope
also he say he has NOT heard steve, so Stevefags are btfo.

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>Brave is Banjo
HAHAHAHAHA no

So does this mean that Dragon Quest will never come to Switch? :)

>Codename is Jack
>Everyone would have assumed it was Jack Frost, the mascot
>It's actually Joker, the most popular MC
>Codename is Brave
>Everyone assumes it's Erdrick, the most popular MC
>It's actually Slime, the mascot

Just because he was wrong about that doesnt mean hes also wrong about this.

IT doesnt mean hes right about this, but hes been credible in the past.

Look at the shield faggot, it's an obvious reference
>Pollfag
Lol

>Minecraft content at launch
>Square character at launch
>I meant to say Square character is DLC

they are both shit
Banjo and Doomguy wont magically bring you shitdow and Steve

>DQ Invented shields
Yikes

Ew commie

But wait didnt he also say that Minecraft content would be in the base game?

Here you go, here are just three options, and you could go even deeper if you assume Sora's "Brave Form" in Japanese would count.

cringe

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You guys keep saying "it's over", but what is "over" exactly? There's still 3 more left.

>They're the next Incineroar/Corrin
Incineroar and Corrin are hated for being picked to shill games from series that are already more than fairly represented, neither Steve or Erdrick's series have ever been in smash in any capacity

>brave is Banjo

Jesus christ Banjo fags are THIS deluded.
Let me spell something out for you banjo keks, There is ZERO reason they would include Banjo in the game other than to please the small crowd of people obsessed with him. Other than that, they gain nothing from including him. Hes not unique, hes from a dead series that will never get another game, and hes a western character, meaning that if he was to get in, that means Sakurai had to have met with Phil Spencer in person and speak enlgish and get tips on how to include banjo. Do you see that happening.

HES NOT IN.

NINTENDO ADD MY DEAD NOSTALGIA BEAR! WAIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING IS THAT STEVE! AAH P-PHIL YOU PROMISED! POLARPANDA SAVE MEEEE

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>web.archive.org/web/20101116215557/http://www.dragonquest.jp:80/popup/ranking_character.html
Oh that is interesting info, most popular DQ chracters according to the SE pool
>Hero (DQIII)
>Bianca
>Alena
>Terry
>Hero (DQVIII)
Fucking Alenafag cucked as Kiryl

>Vergeben claims Erdrick is in
>Says he'll be at the VGAs
>He's not
>Doesn't back down from Erdrick
>Other reputable leakers hear from unreliable sources that Erdrick is in
>But since they know Vergeben backs the character, they believe these sources anyway and claim Erdrick is in
>Vergeben sees this and uses it as evidence that he's right
This is the natural outcome of a bunch of attention whores playing "I know sooper seekrit info but I can't say where it's from teehee"

He had a top 10 runspeed in the datamine and he's not that fast in the game. Plus it said he would have a rapid jab but he doesn't have that .

no, he said it was coming in some form
word twisters keep saying he said base game but he been disagreeing since that boss claim

The only time he was wrong about a new fighter iirc was when he said k rool might not be in, then backpeddled saying it was a bad source. He didn't call the entire roster but he called a lot of it, dont think hes been wrong yet about anything he was certain about either

anyone who believes this faggot should be shot

If Erdrick isn't linked to Steve he actually helps Banjo a lot, since Erdrick will obviously be based on Mii Swordie in size and kit, making it likely the duck hunt bug is related to BK

Banjofags are the new Genofags, they want a shit dead character and use a quote as evidence that their character is in

>Just because he was wrong about that doesnt mean hes also wrong about this.
He's been wrong about everything that wasn't an easy guess. The reason he's banking so hard on erdrick is because of how safe of a bet it is. Just like with 2D zelda not being link's awakening, like minecraft content at launch (this was off the heels of the Microsoft deal.) etc. He clearly has no insider information which is why he's always wrong. Laura Kate Dale is more credible than him. She pulls just as much shit out of her ass but at least she's an actual journalist.

You fags were saying similar things in support of the Grinch too.

I’m not sure if you know this, but Sakurai actually did meet up with Microsoft during E3

>had to speak English
What is a translator?

Also
>Dead series
>hey K Rool
>hey Wii Fit Trainer
>hey fucking Ice Climbers

>He's been disagreeing that Minecraft would be in the base game since the base game released 2 weeks early
No shit. What's he going to do? Say Minecraft is still in the base game? WAIT
HE FUCKING DID, HE STILL SAID THERE WAS A MINECRAFT BOSS IN THE GAME DESPITE THE GAME LEAKING EARLY AND BEING COMPLETELY DATAMINED

ew, beta male.

>can't recognized the series icon
cringe and secondarypilled

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I don't play shit games

But we know it to be true after the Star Fox Grand Prix circlejerk.

Sakurai met with Microsoft during E3 to add Steve because he loves Minecraft
>Donkey Kong is alive
>Wii Fit is alive
>Ice Climbers are retro reps
Why do Banjofags hide behind already confirmed characters

this faggot has some fucking nerve showing his face after he got completely btfo-ed by links awakening he should have killed himself

>K Rool
DK isn't dead and has a future
>Wii Fit Trainer
Included for her zaniness and Wii Fit was the most popular peripheal on the Wii, defined a generation
>Ice Climbers
Retro rep chosen for the two player gimmick

>Banjo
Oh wow,,,,he shoots eggs,,,hes a bear...fun.

>Banjofag
>Phone poster
>Uses Gamefaqs and Twitter

>most of the characters already got deconfirmed
>ballot winners like Ridley, Bayo and the Belmonts where even relevant in local fan polls
YIKES
I
K
E
S

imagine relying on fan polls echo chambers after Ridley and fucking Richter.

faggot who has never played the game

Duck Hunt and Swordfighter are fucking nothing, it’s a glitch dumbass

>DK is alive
Yeah but K. Rool isn’t gonna show up ever again
>Wii Fit is alive
When was its last game? The Wii? The one game it had?
>Ice climbers are retro
Like the retro rep that Ultimate hasn’t had yet. And we live in a time when companies are jacking off the 90s for their nostalgia. You know who was prominent in the 90’s?

>another word twister
in the game =/= its base or dlc
if you cant get your eyes check, i really feel sorry for you

Steve got cucked by Ender Dragon, so byebye Stank

Joker was based off piranha plant apparently so this theory lost a lot of traction

ay? cope

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>Yeah but K. Rool isn’t gonna show up ever again
Source: my ass
>When was its last game? The Wii? The one game it had?
No, Wii Fit U.
>Like the retro rep that Ultimate hasn’t had yet. And we live in a time when companies are jacking off the 90s for their nostalgia. You know who was prominent in the 90’s?
Not Banjo, and there are no "retro reps", but WTF picks according to Sakurai, such as G&w, DHD and ROB.
Ultimate had one with PP.
Source: tweaktown.com/news/63930/super-smash-bros-uitimate-sakurais-piranha-plant-decision/index.html

I think you misread my quote. We're in agreement here. Vergeben has been wrong since the release of Smash and Steve isn't getting in.

>had the one bit of actual credibility proven wrong
>shitposts to cope
Classic

This.

I’d rather have Erdrick over Sora, underage newfag

Only a zoomer would ever want Virgindrick.

>source: my ass
he's based on Cloud parameters
also Brawl Wolf 2.0 (webm related)

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Did he actually fucking say that lmfao

There’s no ender dragon in the game dumbass

NOOO P-PLAY THE GAME HE HAS INTERESTING MOOOOVE SET! HELP ME PHIL SPENCER

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