>Play Persona 5 cause it looks cool as shit >have a blast, get interested in previous games >get told to start on 3 >play it expecting some anime simulator with waifus, power of friends and "just believe it" fun >get despair, deaths, existential dread and even genuine tension at times >get to the ending >that fucking rooftop >I'm sitting there, crying my eyes out as the credits roll by >lookup Memories of You with subs later >I'm a mess once again
Lads what the fuck? How come this isn't praised more? It's fucking kino holy shit. Should I expect more from 4?
it had endless threads at a almost daily rate for pretty much ten years, people could only rave about it here for so long
Tyler Foster
>tfw you get to the ending and don't feel anything Was it because I played P3P instead? Just for reference, I started with P4G first.
John Brown
not as praised probably just because its an older title and there is newer things to talk about, did you play portable or the ps2 version?
Matthew Gomez
P4 is the same game with a totally different vibe. People often call it Scooby Doo, which is an exaggeration, but not entirely unfair. It's good, but definitely lighter than 3.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
zoomers started with 4, they never played 3. Shame because its better than the scoobie doo bullshit of 4 and the not so subversive, not so phantom, not so theives of 5.
The ending itself isn't sad, but December and January really set the tone of dread and despair. There were moments in January where I just wanted to just stop playing. I'd be lying if I didn't want to cry like a bitch during that part of the game.
Kayden Smith
>get interested in Persona >get told to start on 3 >play it expecting despair, deaths, existential dread and even genuine tension at times >get 25% of the way through the game, still waiting for something to happen >get 50% of the way through the game, still waiting for something to happen >get 75% of the way through the game, still waiting for something to happen >plot finally kicks in with amazing atmosphere 15 hours before everything ends What the fuck was the point of most of the game?
Joseph Carter
P3 for me was much more memorable P5. I think it does a better job of making the player get attached to the characters. I wish they'd remake it with new dungeons and keep the OST.
Jordan Barnes
SMT IV is a Persona game in everything but name too though
William Ward
Everyone loves 3. The game is old news though and it's been discussed to death. You shoulda been here when Persona 5 was still not out, there were threads about 3 and 4 daily. Discussion has shifted to Nostalgiafags and Mainlinrfags shitting on 5 because normies like it despite it being closest to the mainline games with actual negotiation, non procedurally generated dungeons, gun attacks, etc. The series is great OP. Play 4 as soon as you can
Adam Smith
Ah, a man of culture. Congrats on your superior taste.
P4 is gonna be what you expected P3 to be, but worse. Gameplay and dungeons are slightly better but characters, plot and setting are all infinitely worse.
Grayson Bailey
oh look, another sweaty SMT fan. How's it feel knowing you're franchise was hijacked by a dating sim spinoff? Take a shower nerd.
Benjamin Jackson
You're just late to the party. Everybody already talked about it to death before the P4 anime gave the series even more exposure.
>he played P3P first It's too late, P3 is already done in your mind and there's no way to recapture the experience as it was intended.
Oliver Wood
who are you trying to fool? p3 is zoomer shit just like 4.
Persona 3 will always and forever be my favorite, even though it's clearly the least polished. It has a cast of characters, atmosphere, plot and setting that are extremely special. I don't think the game will ever leave my memory.
John Moore
>everything I don't like is zoomer mainline SMT is done, get over it.
Kayden Walker
It is praised a lot. I love 4 and 5 too, but everyone who didn't start with those knows that 3 has by far the best story/characters of nuPersona. It just need another remake to give the gameplay some QoL features from later games
Asher Richardson
3 and 4 were two years apart, retardo
Jaxson Stewart
We know user. We're here. It's just that some of use took that road years ago.
I found the game to be incredibly overrated and mediocre in the whole and the ending still made me cry. One of the best endings in any game, its just a shame that 90% of the leadup was a boring slog.
Establishing a setting so you're invested when things eventually go tits up.
Jonathan Taylor
Based and redpilled.
Ethan Adams
The only QoL feature I'd have is restarting boss fights from the start of the fight There's nothing more fucking annoying than an hour of cutscenes and walking between a boss and the last chance to save
Robert James
>How come this isn't praised more? It's an old game and it's barely tolerable to play today
Aiden Diaz
portable or fes?
Alexander Thomas
wtf why is he holding a gun to his head. I dont want my son playing this shit.
Caleb Hill
I hear she's a demon in the sack. In fact the whole dorm probably hears it.
Levi Collins
FES no doubt P3P if you're tired of FES
Isaac Reyes
Post pics of your son
William Torres
You don't need 60 hours to establish that. More importantly, you can actually try to tell a story in those 60 hours.
>Should I expect more from 4? No, god no. I started with 4, and was blown away by 3 when I played it later. 4's story is pretty bad. Its alright at first, even gets pretty engaging, but they shit the bed near the end. I'm so happy that I gave 3 a chance, because I almost didn't want anything more to do with this series after finishing 4 because of how it drops the ball.
P4 is fun, but it's a huge disappointment coming from P3 and P5. The characters are less interesting, but they have more interaction with each other. The story is pretty stupid and the resolution to the big mystery is very convoluted.
Wyatt Diaz
>How come this isn't praised more? You must be blind, there's threads sucking this game's dick every week. rightfully so
>Should I expect more from 4? You should expect different. These games all have different themes going for them. Form your own opinions after you play it. I will warn you though that it's the easiest one to get a bad ending in though
Nathan Turner
Why are you faggots like this? Are there actually people who enjoy both SMT and Persona?
Caleb Gomez
True.
Jose Foster
you could have said SMT4A or DeSu2 and it wouldnt be a stretch but you had to grasp at straws with 4
Oliver Rivera
Ten years ago when there was literally daily Chie/P4 threads there was always a bunch of fags saying how P3 was better and Aegis was the better waifu.
Kayden Perry
You could like both, but you'll get made fun of on Yea Forums which is more important
Landon Rogers
They're all great games, what really matters is which one has the best battle theme.
I miss the days of 2009-2010 when P3 had two re-releases and a ton of non-game material, everybody was calling it the FFVII of the series and talking about how P4 wasn't even going to get a FES upgrade and just be lost to time How quickly the tides turned
Jonathan Smith
Every single one of them was better than anything in P3
Elijah Edwards
Piggyhara. Literally the most complex SLink in the franchise.
Easton Carter
Portable. It cannot be overstated just how fucking shit non-controllable AI is. The game is definitely beatable in spite of it but it's incredibly fucking annoying and will force you to play inefficiently to compensate.
All FES has is animu cutscenes and walking around tiny town maps. The Answer is completely pointless plot wise and is little more than just grinding.
Ian Anderson
5 almost didnt make wanna kill myself from overhearing it. so i guess it wins
Noah Powell
and they're still equally as obnoxious in 2019. there's a reason why p3fags are known as the meleefags of persona. they can't move on from their old stinky game.
James Hall
If you're in a mind to take things seriously P2 might be a good interlude between calendar games.
Despite being wacky as fuck overall, the characters confront some difficult things and the gloomier aesthetic helps sell the tone of those moments.
1. FES has Direct Party Control since last year 2. You are the retarded one if you think the AI is bad, because you are clearly too stupid to fucking change their AI presets on the fly (which is effectively same as direct party control).
Logan Evans
Imagine being the Mc and destroying Fuuka after consenting to premarital intercourse
>All FES has is animu cutscenes and walking around tiny town maps. And Fusion Spells And MC being able to use more than just Swords And better balance And shitload of in-engine 3D cutscenes And shitload of elements actually being SHOWN to you instead of being only told about in P3P because lol off screen cause PSP is too weak
Honestly I'd argue that none of the party members, nor the Dojimas have a weak link. Kanji's, I have a soft spot for, especially the extension of it with the "Rank 11" scene that got added in Golden. And even while the bottom 3 (both sun options and temperence) are pretty bad, none hit the lows of P3's Moon, Kenji, or I'd even argue whatever the name of the Fortune link.
last surprise > p2ep battle theme > pull the trigger > remember, we got your back > wiping all out > light the fire up in the night > invitation to freedom > mass destruction > wait and see > a lone prayer > p2is battle theme > reach out to the truth
Hunter Campbell
>Kenji kenji's was a riot though
Anthony Young
Random skill inheritance is way worse than AI party members.
I actually enjoyed the suspense of setting tactics and casting a skill to see what happens all the way through the Journey -- Mass Destruction is constructed perfectly to complement the evoker animations -- but it has gotten pretty painful in the answer.
Soft resetting skills during fusion is just an ironic waste of time considering that the game supposedly wants you to spend your lifetime meaningfully.
Honestly it's just been a while since I've played vanilla P3/FES. I can't think of a third particular stinker, and remembered kinda hating how sob story his grew into.
Bring it to switch already so i can play persona 3. I have no gayming pc and no ways of emulation, not even a fan of it in the first place. Just wanna play 3
Jaxson Robinson
>How come this isn't praised more? Because its closer to smt than p5 and the narrative p5fags want to spread is that P5 is.
Dylan Gonzalez
Now go play persona 1 or 2 (for Hitler) or start playing SMT
Matthew Jones
Fuck off Eric.
David Morales
>LITERALLY removed demon negotiations, the defining element of megaten, and they didn't come back until p5 >i-it's closer to smt than p5 is, though! why are p3 lards so delusional?
Austin Watson
Yes and no SMT is god tier game with crisp meaning whilst Persona is for fags who can’t get past the fact their childhood was shit and want to experience what they could have had through the games (P1 and 2 don’t include since they are more SMT than nu-persona)
Landon Brown
Persona 5 has better gameplay, art direction, and graphics, but a terrible story and pacing. The game tries too hard to rail against Japanese Society.
Persona 3 did it too, but does so with grace. Not how the principal of Gekkoukan asks for forgiveness at Shinjiro's funeral for not helping him, or Mr. Ekoda had a "My god what have I done" moment when he abused his power
Julian Torres
What' s wrong with p3p?
Lincoln Nguyen
Kenji just wants to fuck a cake. You must have him confused with Moon, which was the Christ Fag
Tyler Mitchell
Persona 3 came out when SMT games still had unique philosophical aspects to them. They decided to just make 4 and 5 happy higschool stories because people dont like thinking or not having perfect happy endings. If you want more feels play DDS.
Persona doesn't need to be like SMT, the more they deviate from the mainline and doe their own thing the better imo If it was up to me, I'd have kept the P3/P4 shadow models instead of just using SMT demon roster
Kevin Ward
and yet 1 and 2 are the worst ones hmmm
Liam Barnes
P5's tone was all over the place. I didn't know what to feel after it was all done.
Jordan Robinson
Retard, I already noted Moon. Who is, without question, the worst social link in the neo-trilogy.
Nolan Wood
>Bought a Vita and P4G because everyone is hyping the shit out of it >Loved it and ended up spending over 300 hours with it >Decided to play through P3 because its on PS3 >Figured that it might not be as P4 because I was in love with the cast, minus Naoto and Teddy >Ended it loving it more than P4 >Decided to get into SMT with Nocturne since its also on PS3 >Fucking hell its great too. >Years later and I've play pretty much every modern SMT games outside of SJ, which I am now playing on 3DS and Soul Hacker. >Persona 4 went from one of the best game I've played to bottom tier for the series. God damn, what a great ride.
Sun was the only S link that made me feel anything in Persona 3. The game made up for it in character development during the plot and I don't blame it for having poor S links but they really were just fucking boring and pointless most of the time.
Owen Moore
>Final Fantasy 7 >Clannad >Zelda Twillight Princess >Saya no Uta Not really. It's just that making edgy depressing shits was the fad back then in Japan.
Samuel Edwards
Persona 4 is just Jojo Part 4 without Josuke.
Gavin Moore
>Persona 3 came out when SMT games still had unique philosophical aspects to them. no, you're thinking of 1 and 2. they made 3 an emo high school story because emo culture was trendy at the time.
Ayden Foster
Excellent post
Aiden Bell
Justice, Hierophant, Lovers, Emperor, Star, and Death
Lucas Walker
Interacting with all the characters going through various phases of loss, grief, and acceptance
Brandon Reed
Everyone in P3 had life and goals. Even Kenji wanted to cram to get into Uni.
Brandon Green
Pretty much this. There was an 8 year period where 4 was the newest game, so attracted lots of newcomers.
Aaron Bennett
Based. Though I like demon negotiations, there was just something charming about the arcana shadows. (pic related is my favorite) There was a bunch of arcana that never even got shadow designs too, it's a shame
it is praised more you fucking retard have you ever been in a persona thread before?
Levi Smith
>he thinks gameplay mechanics make the game smt and not the themes involved in the story Fuck off back to your power of friendship shit.
Christopher Clark
I'm not even through P5 yet, but it all just feels so incredibly lame to me P3 has time related, incredibly ominous phenomenon P4 has a creepy as hell other-space P5? Oh just alternate space again, but this time instead of dealing with the repressed sides of people manifesting, you know something actually thematically fitting with personas and shadows, it's just straight up brainwashing evil niggas with no scruples about being awful people The whole set up is incredibly contrived and lame, concerning MC's circumstances and the formation of the Phantom Thieves Lame is the best way I can express how I feel about this game It's a shame since I love the visuals, environments and all, it's a stylish game and gameplay-wise really enjoyable
Joshua Cook
>you know something actually thematically fitting with personas and shadows Persona 3 has the least of any entry in the series to do with this
Christian Davis
Imagine Elizabeth asking to visit your room and then dropping the act with "I know what this means, show me your moves"
Banging a physical manifestation of the collective unconscious is almost Shinji-tier in its scope. Door-kun essentially had sex with all of humanity at the same time
Zachary Walker
Persona 3 does the power of friendship shit too, fuck off retard
Jace Jones
The entire plot started because Mitsuru's grandfather was about to do some messed up shit by collecting shadows to bring about the end. It took Yukari's dad creating a lab accident to delay the Fall.
Dominic Morris
I-love-Fuuka!user, which of Fuuka's VAs are your canon?
Every girl in P3 was thirsty for MC. Even his teacher.
Mason Wilson
You’re an honest to god faggot if some gook’s light novel-tier story moved you to tears.
Hunter Ramirez
so... persona 3, then? and why do p3 babbies tout their game's story like it isn't an enormous downgrade from p2 in story and writing? no other series would get a free pass on this.
Owen Bailey
Fuuka is a japanese woman, her one true voice is japanese!
What an absolutely adorable cutie! I love watching her swing and dance around!
he means the actual jungian concepts behind Personas and Shadows you buffoon, P5 still deals with that like P4 does, whereas P3 they mostly skirt around what these things actually mean in favor of focusing on a different plot.
Jason Phillips
Yes, and what does that have to do with Jungian philosophy? The Dark Hour and everything associated with it comes from a bunch of shadows getting blown up, you could replace shadows with "a bunch of chemicals" and absolutely nothing changes because the shadows in P3 are just generic enemies.
Nicholas Campbell
4 and 3 both had better atmospheres than 5 5 didn’t even elicit anything close to an emotional reaction from me
Dylan Harris
It's old dude. I agree the game is amazing but it's been discussed to death.
Noah Ortiz
>autistic child with no friends or family has to kill himself to save them after only a year with them Fuck you nigger thats sad as fuck.
Jordan Gray
Not him but do you two think that power of friendship just means having friends or something?
William Collins
Imagine coming home to Fuuka and being able to help her take off her spotted and striped socks she's been dancing in all day haha
Hudson Walker
Having friends is dumb ass kid's shit, no respectable adult has friends
Christian Rivera
>Akihiko's breakdown at Shinji's funeral Too bad Persona 3 is forever tained thanks to the shit that happened to Vic thanks to our trash modern era
Oliver Hernandez
That's the one thing I liked the most about P5 actually. Once you start thinking everything is a metaphor, right down to the weapons you use and the things you do, the whole game turns into an exercise in meta-analysis that was more fun than the actual gameplay for me
Eli Jackson
I'd say Persona 3's friendship bullshit ending is different from 4 and 5's, and is more in line with Persona 2's In 3 it's him caring about his friends' continued existence that he's willing to give literally everything for it, whereas in the later games it's more them yelling that they're best friends and will overcome anything because they're best friends
Andrew Cook
>watch the movies >Shinjis death/funeral is even worse Fuck that song they played in the ending.
>whereas in the later games it's more them yelling that they're best friends and will overcome anything because they're best friends Right before you fight Nyx it shows all your max S. Links cheering you on and then during the fight all your party members yelling at you, you even get Shinji's fucking ghost chiming in
Caleb Jenkins
Actually agree. One of the bigger shames from P5 is that EXCLUSIVELY using demons made a lot of encounters more hallow because any experienced player will know most of the weaknesses offhand which kind of trivializes a lot of the experience. Woud've liked if we got a good balance where the fights had shadows, but with a "Demon Commander" who'd be who you try to get from the fight.
Elijah Taylor
>in the movies Makoto holds back because he doesn't want to lose the dark hour effectively delaying the rest of the team from meeting up with Ken and Shinji >In the movis Makoto is as responcible for Shinji's death as Ken and Reolver jesus is
That's great, just because it makes up for them pissing away his interactions with the party beyond Aegis and Ryoji
Asher Russell
Didn't they outright axe Akihioko's breakdown in the movie?
Juan Gray
>P3 has finally hit P2 status where you can just say whatever you want about it and claim it's true because nobody on this board now has played it
None of those games have the philosophical aspect of smt games
Joseph Jenkins
Isn't it great that you could dress up your female party members in bikini armor just to mess with them
Cooper Jenkins
Hurts, doesn't it?
Joshua Cox
Persona 3 is a Grade A Thriller, Mystery, Horror, Suspense
Persona 4 is more Slice of Life, Light Mystery, Jojo Part 4, Afterschool Tomfoolery Fun.
Fuck, look at the color scheme.
Persona 3; Black, Blue, White. Very somber colors
Persona 4; RED, GREEN, ORANGE, YELLLOOOOOOOW
Mason Thomas
Yes? There's a difference between using friendship to strengthen your resolve and turning friendship into a tangible force like Izanagi-no-Okami.
Asher Howard
After all of your friends in P3 are yelling at you to encourage you, golden magic flows into you, it says "The power of friendship surges in you!" and you gain 200 health. I don't know how much more blatant this can get, they flat out say the phrase in the game itself.
Lucas Rogers
The P3 cast confronted their personal issues in the most unorthodox way: being locked in the dorm and stuck in an endless loop till they get over their grief of losing MC. Plus, some of them like Junpei and Akihiko are aware of their flaws.
Jungian shadows would work better on Mitsuru and her unhealthy obsession with atoning for the sins of her family.
Nathan Butler
Meanwhile, P5 goes hard on the aesthetic style and kind of shits itself on the narrative value.
Cooper Ortiz
I don't really keep up with Jojo, but I'm told Persona 6 is going to have a female MC What genre would it be?
Jordan Jenkins
Yeah and then you use that resolve given to you by your friends to fucking blow your brains out and die for them Whereas Yu be's himself and stabs the god demon
Kayden Hernandez
There's no Female MC for Persona 5 R. She's just a new addition to the Phantom Thieves and believes people should solve their own problems.
Brandon Wood
>Persona 3 is a Grade A Thriller, Mystery, Horror, Suspense who are you kidding? p3 is like watching paint dry for 90% of the game. i'm not crazy about p4's story either, but at least most of the game isn't a boring slog.
Ryan Cox
I think you need to take a break from the internet. For your own good.
Dylan Smith
It is absolutely insane how time changes all of Yea Forums's opinions on games
I remember when ALL of Persona was considered trash and 2 was BELOVED
Not even a little lick of her legs while you help her out of her cute-as-a-button outfit? Whatever suits you, I guess. I was definitely going more for a raunchy, sweaty, passionate love making angle though.
Lincoln Johnson
You use that power to resist being killed by the physical embodiment of death, something so powerful its mere presence is crushing your party members and making ordinary people spontaneously explode, and seal it away. That's pretty impressive. I'll reiterate they literally use the phrase 'power of friendship' in the game itself, I really don't get why any Persona fan is so afraid of this when even in P1 the power of friendship somehow cured a terminal illness and then in P2 generated an entire alternate reality.
Brody Butler
Persona 3 is unplayable. It's dog shit. You can't even control your fucking party members. And in the end the party member I was using, the robot, just died, then I just gave up this shit fucking game.
Dylan Garcia
get your feet off the coffee table
Robert Cook
But she'd be sweaty and that's unclean! I would love to give her a nice shoulder massage tho! Not to mention she'd be very tired from dancing to do anything else!
David Sanders
I enjoy both for different reasons. The characters in Persona are often more compelling and the day-to-day of it can be fun. SMT games have great atmosphere and settings. I enjoy the themes and combat of both.
Hunter Rogers
>when even in P1 the power of friendship somehow cured a terminal illness After you fucking retarded or do you not know the plot of Persona 1?
Austin Ortiz
I unironically wish they did another soft-reboot, threw the whole wild card memery in the trash and instead of MC having 6 gorillion personas and the rest of the team 2, 1 starter and 1 upgrade, you'd have the whole core cast have several, like 5 or something tiers of Persona, each tier with several choices that are determined by your interactions with the cast, and MC's is determined through his interactions with s.links or something So say you had 5 tiers and 3 choices each tier, totaling in 15 choices altogether for each character, going through their story arcs and depending on your dialogue choices and whatever they get different new personas and in the end each team member would have a total of 5 they can swap between The team members grow as characters depending on how you interact with them and their powers grow in tandem with that character growth, same for MC
I'd definitely agree with this, P3 starts out incredibly strong; the setting, tone, and the mystery of the dark hour are all established and hook you right away.
This is then followed by, off the top of my head, maybe a 3-4 month period where it slows waaaay down. Still has some strong moments, the set-up for later is all cool in hindsight, the problem is just that it doesn't pick up again until Strega and Operation Babe Hunt.
Once Junpei starts listing after his goth loli, and all that cult shit with the apathy syndrome people starts appearing around Iwatodai, then you're in it for the long haul, and the pacing is consistently great. It's just a shame that The Answer isn't the short but sweet epilogue it could've been, at least The Journey stands alone far better.
Joshua Sanders
Technically Nyx was killing people in P3 by pushing them into pure apathy, not straight up slaughtering them Makes sense that holding onto the resolve to protect your friends would save you from that
Caleb Lee
Explain how Maki's physical ailments she's suffered from her entire life are cured during P1.
Juan Rogers
Because she was no longer being hooked to the deva-yuga system
Nolan Wright
Apathy syndrome sets into people without any willpower faster than those with it.
My bad, my only issue being that I'd change 90% to maybe 40%, I'd say a third is still a flaw, but the 60% makes up for it. Sorry, I lost the plot a bit, it's half 2 and I've got a headache.
Nolan Thompson
Do you even know the plot of Persona 1? Maki has been sick her entire life, long before she was hooked up to the Deva system. It did not cause her illness, Kandori just capitalized on her fucked up state of mind.
Daniel Scott
to be fair, p2is was more about philemon than the power of friendship.
Kevin Taylor
>Be fucking retarded and somehow miss the whole "MC is literally dying look" hints during the end of P3. >Think he just rests in Aigis's lap for a while, meets up with his friends, and they all have a happy life together forever afterwards. >Thinking "cool I wonder what The Answer is about, another 80 hour story and sequel?" >Boot it up. >Get told the MC didn't wake up when he closed his eyes. >He was rushed to the hospital and died. >Everyone is depressed. >Aigis awakens to Orpheus. >Shut off the game and lay in bed for a while, a clusterfuck of emotions. This was a fucking rollercoaster.
The answer physically destroys the ending of P3 with made up fanfic-tier bullshit. Once you know of it you ruin the charm of the vanilla ending forever.
4 is scooby doo, but it has my wife in it and the dungeons being slightly themed made it better than 3 with regards to gameplay in my mind at least
Levi Peterson
Isn't it? I feel like I could watch her dance forever
Owen Hall
This Portable cranks it up to another level by letting you save Shinji.
Logan Bell
>The answer physically destroys the ending of P3 If you think this you never gave the slightest fuck about P3 to begin with. > with made up fanfic-tier bullshit. It's literally made by the same goddamn team what are you on about? >ruin the charm of the vanilla ending It's not ruined, are you 12? The Answer just has everyone figuring out what happened and coping with it, then moving on with their lives while expanding on some shit that wasn't clearly explained during the course of the game like shadows for people who didn't play P2.
Ryan Roberts
Like a second before 5 was released
Cameron Parker
Pussies who can't handle hard mode and justify it by saying The Answer is bad.
>Aegis's shadow dopnut steel sister and every character becoming an emotional bitch isnt fanfic tier >A concept as stupid as Door-kun isnt fanfic tier
Yeah No. The answer was a load of shlock. The story is about death and acceptance. It ended with minato dying. Theres no point dragging out that points aftermath except for atlus shekels and aigis fanserivce.
Andrew Garcia
fes already did that by letting you straight-up revive chidori.
Leo Peterson
Persona 2 is the Fire Emblem 4 of Persona; barely anybody's played it but they see "it's the best one" over and over so they just regurgitate it as well while barely knowing anything about the game (a shock plot twist in both game's cases)
Carson Stewart
>Yukari's breakdown after "that" part It made me appreciate her character alot more
>Crying over shitty video games That's gonna be yikes from me dawg
Liam Nelson
As someone who has played P2, IT can go suck a dick solely because of Geistig blitz.
Nicholas Cooper
>>Aegis's shadow dopnut steel sister I can't believe I share a fanbase with a bunch of retards who think every single new character introduced in a sequel is an automatic fanfic OC, even if it's made by the same team with the same vision as before. >>A concept as stupid as Door-kun isnt fanfic tier So you thought the ending to Persona 3 was retarded too by the sounds of it, because he literally became a seal to prevent Nyx descending onto the world as a result of their yearning for death.
Or do I have to explain how metaphors work in the Persona universe like you're a baby brain?
>I can't believe I share a fanbase with a bunch of retards who think every single new character introduced in a sequel is an automatic fanfic OC, even if it's made by the same team with the same vision as before. Were you not here when Golden came out?
Chase Martinez
I thought she was a massive bitch from P3 all the way up to this part in The Answer. Somehow seeing her have a meltdown turned those feelings into pity, then appreciation.
The point was the gang realizing that they had to accept it you fucking mongoloid That was the entire theme of the Answer, it was over and done with I don't really like the writing of it at all but the theme is perfectly solid and in line with the Journey
Jackson Myers
Memento mori, user. Memento mori.
Logan Allen
The biggest problem with the Answer was making Aigis Field Commander.
Chase Nguyen
Unfortunately because of some of the things Yukari said in the answer people hate her forever and ever and of course the attachment she has is all optional so for people who didn't go with her the harshness comes out of nowhere
Owen Martinez
Marie was different. She didn't have a reason to exist, and they handled her poorly. Metis was perfectly fine, if a little under-utilized.
Yes but the theme of P3 is memento mori, not "Work really hard and you won't die"
Benjamin Williams
For those of you who think P3's Sun SLink was sad: have you played it recently? Did you really read that dialogue, and not think it was so hammy that even dime novelists would blush?
Charles Diaz
>He became a seal for nyx Wasnt established until the answer, therefore, not relevant. >Metis is a literal edgy recolor is good character design Even Labrys A NON CANNON FAN CHARACTER is a better design then metis. Metis was a damn mistake. Next ,you'll tell me you love stupidwhatsherface marie and defend her inclusion into a cast that didnt need it, right? Persona has never benefited from these side stories, they all suck and ruin the original ending all because atlus needed new content, same way P5R will inevitably pull some magic ass bullshit to make P5 a happy ending for akechi.
Carter Fisher
a strong devotion to world building. If a game is willing to put you in its world for 30+ hours before really going full gear it's trying to get you invested into everything around you.
Nah you're just a metis-loving faggot with a bias. Sorry but your waifu a shit.
Hudson Foster
you got him real good, i bet he's crying
Grayson Edwards
> the attachment she has is all optional so There are people who didn't do a 100% social link run and get Orpheus Telos? Everyone being attached to the "Cool Suave Supersmart Social Butterfly" and their actions in The Answer feel completely in-character after that. Are these people even human?
No, just got done watching it all, they paced it differently is all, it's placed later than expected.
Carson Gutierrez
What serious dialogue in the new Persona games do you not find hammy?
Liam Ramirez
>A shadow, the dark true nature of the person in question isnt edgy. Keep it up. You'll run out of bullshit eventually user. She belongs to Arc system works. So yes. Fan character. Yeah now show me where "Great seal" implies turning into a door? Oh. you can't? Thought so.
Josiah Powell
>There are people who didn't do a 100% social link run and get Orpheus Telos? Why the fuck would you? You'd need to follow a step-by step guide for a 80 hour long game, meaning you'll have 0 freedom to do whatever you want.
What kind of super autism do you need to enjoy that? The game devs themselves said you were never meant to max all of them, and were even told that it was impossible by other devs
Jack Lopez
Looking cool joker Everyone laugh at this guy, he doesnt know about the party control mod
As a story it's much better than 4 and 5, as a game it's like 10x shittier than both.
Henry Mitchell
I feel like there should be SOMETHING between release of 4 and 5 persona and i am not talking about dancing shit.
Michael Collins
So this is what memes do to a person.
Camden Murphy
Yeah, gamers are lazy and sharing media on video game play throughs wasn't a big thing back then. Gamefaqs was where people got their information there.
Luke Reed
Fan character or not in original design, Arena is Canon. Labrys is canon. Seethe more.
Mason Watson
i thought the big theme of p3 was coming to terms with death? "working really hard" to magically bring someone back from the dead is the exact opposite of that theme. so is retconning shinjiro's death and having elizabeth frantically search for ways to revive door-kun. after all the filler, all the boredom, p3 can't even commit to the theme it was supposed to discuss. it's all a waste of time.
William Baker
Next you'll tell me Q and its cross dimensional velvet room fuckery is cannon.
Christopher Brown
more like just laugh at him for needing a party control mod in the first place
Jeremiah Thompson
This. Its just atlus trying to market happier endings and more content to weebs to get them to justify buying P3 4 times over, and guess what? It worked.
Cooper Baker
I'm still mad we never got to go on a real non-online date with Toriumi
Q could be argued. But it's irrelevant because its story is self-contained and fucking undoes itself anyways. Arena is called out in Golden's Epilogue. It's canon.
Wyatt Mitchell
>Should I expect more from 4? Scooby Doo and some murders? Fuck no.
does the teacher-student relationship stop being taboo after you graduate or is it still not allowed because technically they "left their mark" on you?
Jaxson Hernandez
>P2 IS theme that far down What the fuck?
Blake Evans
It's canon, and yes that's how you spell that word sweaty, unless you can prove otherwise because it's the fullest revised version of the game. Or are you going to argue that The Answer isn't canon anymore?
Hudson Flores
Its Sweetie, and yes thats how you spell the word.
Daniel Mitchell
>Argue I mean sure, if you're going to act like you're right when you clearly aren't. P3 and P$ are the canon entires. P3P, FES, P$G and P5R are what ifs. Everyone knows that except you apparently.
how is it p3p's fault when fes started this bullshit with chidori and p4 continued it by having margaret reveal that elizabeth was trying to revive door-kun?
>when fes started this bullshit with chidori Yeah that part was fucking dumb and poorly explained. >margaret reveal that elizabeth was trying to revive door-kun? Keyword trying. She could easily make him a new puppet body or something of the sort, rip his soul from the ether and toss it into the "container" and have him be alive again. But doing so would allow the collective unconscious desire for death ("Erebus") to call down Nyx once more.
She is more specifically looking for a way to relieve MC's soul of his duty and let him properly Rest In Peace via true death, not to revive him. This is a very important distinction to understand.
>Keyword trying. yeah, trying. as in, not coming to terms with his death and accepting it. and you know full well that door-kun won't be dead anymore if elizabeth gets her way. atlus has more spinoffs to whore out in the future, after all.
It casts a dark mark on the relationship for others if they find out you were dating all through school.
Benjamin Gomez
never post this again
Andrew Robinson
This Replace with P2IS and EP and remove the other games
Nicholas Jenkins
Is Shin Megami Tensei II really that good or is this just a bait image. I tried playing Shin Megami Tensei 1 but it didn't grab me like the original megami tensei did, which I feel like isn't a popular opinion.
Tyler Wood
Yes. That's why Junpei refers to Chidori being alive in A2.
Jace Myers
>A fighting game is canon. And you continue to show your stupidity. Brava user, Brava! ces't magnifique.
Asher Morgan
Sorry you guys can't handle the truth. Easily the best SMT in the entire series. Only people who dont like it are those who cant be patient enough to grind.
Juan Rodriguez
>The fighting games are canon because the revised versions make callbacks to them. >The revised versions are canon because the fighting games make callbacks to them. Insular canon. There's nothing you could refute.
Angel Thomas
Don't blame him for something ATLUS refuses to stop letting ALL side material being canon.
William Anderson
what if you both abstain from dating until after you graduate?
Jayden Taylor
By your logic the Star wars christmas special is canon because Clone wars made a joke about it a decade later.
Asher Rodriguez
>yeah, trying. as in, not coming to terms with his death and accepting it. Holy fuck dude you can't be this retarded. Read the rest of my post. She's trying to let his soul return to the cycle of reincarnation and let him rest without being the sole thing between Nyx and the world.
>Should I expect more from 4? You should expect a japanese version of Scooby Doo with some cute girls.
Lincoln Rogers
half of smt2 is an insufferable fetch quest so no its not that good
Aaron Martinez
>He thinks Chewbacca's family isn't real
Blake Myers
People will still be suspicious that something must have happened.
Henry Murphy
When the Christmas Special gets a sequel that makes a joke about Clone Wars, yes. Because then you have a loop. Where's your proof that Clone Wars is canon?
I actually got teary eyed at the end of the game when I went to check on him, only to find his mother there instead. I got so unexpectedly choked up by that whole sequence. '
Is P3 the most overrated Persona game? >Most of the main cast is unlikable or boring. >Tartarus is a tedious slog. >There's no definitive version. You either get no party control or a VN >SLs range from terrible to mediocre. >Plot is literally non existent until near the last few months >Adachi is a better antagonist than Strega, Ikutsuki, and Nyx combined
Joseph Price
Me too, it really fucked me up when his book gets mentioned in P4
Why college? In Japan, high school is where you decide on your path in life. For a game that's part life simulation, it makes no sense to focus on college.
Gavin Morales
I like both because I like JRPGs and Persona has different mechanics within the game and more characters/story while SMT has the demon system and godly Press Turn. Yea Forums just generally hates videogames. It's the sad truth.
Jordan Bell
No P4 is easily >I CAN CONTROL MY PARTY MEMBERS SO ITS BETTER
Anthony Ortiz
If you haven't figured it out, bland VN style dialogue
Eli Morales
Because I want to be able to not feel weird about romancing 14 year olds and instead romance consenting adults
Landon Turner
Which version of P3 should i play Yea Forums?
Andrew Jenkins
I'd rather get that world trekking backpacking game that proto-P5 was instead goddammit.
FES. Please don't play Portable, one waifu and party control is not enough to fix what they broke.
Joseph Reed
Are you honestly trying to imply it isn't? Who enjoys watching battles instead of playing them?
Oliver Cooper
It's not like you make any actual decisions in Persona though People in college too also live and do shit in their free time
Thomas Gomez
How about you just play Eternal Punishment instead dude
Luke Hughes
Nice now play P2:IS on PSP, it's actually kino and that game is more memorable imo. I started with P3. Both of P2 cast are good I always cared about them while playing it.
Jack Richardson
Nazism is a Japan thing.
Don't be disingenuous. Japan was part of the axis powers, much of their culture plays respect to their fallen brothers in arms.
>Got rid of dual summoning >MC can only use swords >Only one types of phys attacks I'd much rather have those than lose those and only gain party control
Benjamin Thompson
Japan was in fact never national socialist
Ethan Sanders
This.
Owen Perez
Adachi had no ground to stand on because he was only placed in the boonies because he's a massive cock-up who refused to do the work that was required of him back in the city. It's sophistry at its finest.
Luis Ortiz
Incel-tier post
Adachi's only problem in life was not being able to get laid. Otherwise, he had a comfortable job doing jack shit because he was a cop in a town with like a thousand people in it. Yosuke wasn't just "upset he lived in the middle of nowhere," he loathed himself for secretly being happy someone was murdered because it meant he could act like he mattered. Cripplingly low self worth is a little more severe than "women don't find my creepy, rapey attitude attractive."
>SMTfags >Ewww idols and anime >I only play mature games for mature gamers such as myself >Edgy shit, 1-dimensional characters, but at least I get to punch god >Final comes out, it's trash and shits on its predecessor, a game that actually tried to world build >It's okay because the gameplay is better >Press Turn is still "win faster" >Oh, Hama and Mudo actually require thought now and don't randomly instant kill me, nevermind the fact that Smirk activation itself is still random >It's hard and you just need to git gud, needing validation about being good at a single-player turn-based game of all fucking things I actually started with Strange Journey on the DS, but the wank is trite. Completely shit close-minded fanbase.
Daniel Rivera
t. ugly cereal bear.
Maybe next time you'll actually post this in a relevant thread
Nathaniel Morris
Fuck delinquents and fuck people who don't wear school uniforms
It used to be. You're gonna tell me the children of two prominent CEOs in the same group didn't meet as kids at a Christmas party or something? We both know how this ends.
Ethan Flores
sex androids when?
Jaxson Long
Any reason to play Portable instead of FES if I don't care about FemProtag? I already have FES on PSN so i'd like to avoid playing a different version if I can
Dominic Anderson
you're giving these phoneposting 12 year olds too much credit
music, but you can find that online. Yukiko and Vincent make cameos. you can also control party members so it's less of a pain to replay it but there's really nothing new.
Jayden Mitchell
Based.
Chase Garcia
Besides the convenience of controls, not really. I liked FES more since you 'commanded' your party like a strategy game.
Jaxson Sullivan
Git gud
Andrew Long
Does anyone besides me remember hearing well before P5's release that the MC and his friends would be homeless? Was that a mistranslation?
FES is a much better version with way more content. P3P's cutscenes are also mainly dialogue+text with no visual representation whatsoever. The Answer is a full epilogue story about ~20 hours of content that P3P doesn't have.
Eli Foster
I'm pretty sure the Kirijo Group has been split from the Nanjo Group long enough that Mitsuru's grandfather was alive long enough to amass an even larger fortune.
Best experience by far unless you wanna find the tactics settings to get exactly what you want, you can ALWAYS get what you want with tactics, but it's a learning curve.
Henry Ortiz
Yeah but >The Answer I mean I'm a goddamn masochist and that was still a slog for very little payoff
Joshua Cook
They were and still are imperialist.
Which is basically nazism but even less trusting of foreigners.
i get the impression that japan doesn't really understand why nazism and their own brand of extreme nationalism was considered bad and that they just understand that they unquestionably lost. And that's enough for them.
>I mean I'm a goddamn masochist and that was still a slog for very little payoff You must hate SMT then. That sucks, because it was just like Persona 3 without social links, which is what I was wanting before I knew what SMT was. I just wanted to endlessly kill shit with personas and segments of story between them.
Matthew Long
>fucks up a commie with a wakizashi Based zipperhead
Evan Parker
It's literally only designed to answer your questions from The Journey if you had any, I didn't have an issue and caught onto the stupid Japanese metaphor shit easily, so it wasn't really necessary
Brody Ward
SMT doesn't have randomly generated dungeons.
Jonathan Hall
No, the VN style doesn't really detract from it any more than the godawful PS2 Persona models or QUALITY animated cutscenes did for the original. The real issue with P3P is the casualization of S Link mechanics and the MC only being able to use the second worst weapon type.
Joseph Perry
>it's a Fatesawakening babby shitting on a classic that he hasn't even played himself episode
Justin Carter
Putting the fear of the samurai in the jew
Jaxson Reed
Agreed, I wish there was a mod to keep the compendium from the Journey in the Answer. That would have reduced the tedium significantly.
Liam Lewis
Not even. It's what's gone from the main game that makes it sloggy. No Compendium and quite a bit of grinding. It's strategic, but SMT Press Turn still makes for faster battles that don't take forever.
Cooper Parker
I took basically the same path while starting at 3. Then I went to 4 and the rest of SMT. Series just gets fucking better the more you dig into it, it's true kino.
Jaxson Wright
I've been reading the Undiscovered self by Jung and have read Memories, Dreams, and Reflections and I cannot see how people can't understand the Jungian themes in P3. One of the core aspects Jung covers is the idea that individuals becoming detached from their individual relationship with the idea of God (not necessarily religious belief, but the moral and spiritual aspect of devoting oneself to the greatest good) was a recipe for the catastrophes of the 20th century where rationalism, which I define as the belief that the events of a human's life and the morals derived from it can be explained scientifically, destroyed much of the moral foundation in Western Europe. P3 covers those Jungian themes through the Mitsuru family fuckups and the masses becoming literal zombies.
Your mistake was thinking anyone on Yea Forums has read Jung
Michael Thompson
But I'm here and I've read Jung. Certainly I can't be the only one right?
Tyler Bell
Your mistake was thinking anyone on Yea Forums can read.
Ryder Jenkins
This is all a dream, you were never really here
Easton Cruz
Probably the only one who posts in Persona threads. My knowledge of Jung is pretty cursory and based on critical theory courses, so I'm a poser.
Xavier Jackson
>Geistig blitz >Kino
Fuck no. Worst persona
Gabriel Rogers
That's a point in P3's favor, at least. P3 has the advantage of being original for an SMT spinoff and shaking up the formula
Anthony Butler
People worldwide will always sympathize with Nazis over Jews because Jews earn their loathsome reputation and always have.
You don't get kicked out of 500 bars and blame the bartenders. You don't get kicked out of 500 countries and get to play the victim.
Also Nazis stood for excellence and had beautiful visions of the future. Can you really blame Japan for fondly remembering their well-dressed comrades who DIDN'T NUKE TWO CIVILIAN CITIES?
I miss getting sick and having to balance scheduling dungeon crawls with actual school shit. P5 completely trivializes this.
Lincoln Foster
Because it's a dream I'm definitely here. If you want to understand Jung as a person, which I feel has helped a lot of his works make more sense, then read memories, dreams, and reflections. It's basically an auto-biography (Someone recorded his words as he spoke them). It has made everything I've ever read or played become a million times better. I've looked at Bladerunner, LISA, Umineko, and Persona from a Jungian lens and it makes it all a hell of a lot better.
>m.jpg You make this too easy. Remember to breathe through your nose, kiddo.
Benjamin Murphy
I love persona 3 It's the only persona game that I can replay again every time I pick it up and actually stick to it. P4 and P5 have too many parts that drag. Plus p3's cast is fantastic.
Xavier Clark
Really? Tartarus was ridiculously easy to figure out, took me one trip to realize how to get the most out of it with and never have to really be even concerned with getting tired or sick
>Should I expect more from 4? Sort of. Persona 4 will make you realize the friends and family you have suck and will never be as good as the ones you make in persona 4
Nolan Robinson
there's the 6 hour introduction for starters
Sebastian Nguyen
3 also has a long opening segment. You don't get into your first combat encounter until almost two hours.
Ethan Cook
And in Persona you summon your demons for your skills only and they're not your party members. What's your point?
Gavin Russell
>literally every palace after Futaba's
Brody Diaz
So did they remove the red arm bands from the P3 character designs?
I liked Tartarus because it cut out the bullshit dungeon minigame shit and navigation so I can choose whether to throw myself into endless battles or not. I liked that it cut to the chase like that.
Elijah Cook
Yeah if you spend an hour and a half trying to decide on a name
Owen Brooks
3's opening segment is like a 1/5th as long as 4 and 5. You're doing your first battle where you summon your persona around 40 minutes, 30 if you aren't dragging your feet, then jumping into Tartarus about 10-20 minutes after that. Not to mention after that point the training wheels are off. None of this "you should probably just go to sleep for the night" nonsense.
Morgana was so fucking pointless it actually angered my soul. It felt like the only reason he existed was to constantly nag you. In a game about freedom and rebellion, it felt like Morgana was hindering you more than anything, always suggesting you do this, don't do that. You should NEVER EVER have a mascot character replace the main character's inner voice.
Connor Morris
Whatever's the current most "official" name when I'm playing it, I can't stand it when the player name doesn't fit in with the setting and npc names and I can't make up japanese names
Carter Howard
I always go with the canon names.
Blake Cooper
>the memes jack yeah he only drives the story of the whole game, totally pointless character.
Ryan Walker
p3 - kotone shiomi p4 - gary stu p5 - akira kurusu
Evan Ortiz
P3 - Pontus
Isaac Cox
>Akira Kurusu >Not Ren Amiyamia _based
Isaiah Miller
It's not about memes. It's about him attaching himself to the main character, which is completely unnecessary and cramped. At the very least he doesn't need to pipe up any time anything at all happens, it makes you feel like you're incapable of thinking for yourself, like he's holding your hand.
I get it, he's manifested from Joker and sent to guide him, but he doesn't need to literally think FOR you. Every time you overhear a conversation, Morgana has something to say and re-iterates what you JUST read or heard. This is a detriment. It's not okay.
Owen Robinson
Was SMT Strange Journey any good? Anyone play the original or redux?
Christian Perry
No, nobody has played SJ But sure, it's pretty good if you like SMT
Henry Walker
I only played original. It's good. The dungeon design is fantastic and it's still first-person so it feels somewhat immersive.
Gavin Collins
>people say this destroyed Yukari's character development >even though it makes her one of the most human characters in the game
Ian Young
Both are good. Play the one that's most convenient to you.
Lucas Jones
>Joker is walking to school. Student 1: So I was masturbating the other day... Student 2: Ehhh? Masturbating? What's that? Student 1: Masturbating is a way of relieving stress by rubbing your ochinchin until it shoots white pee.
Morgana: HMMMM masturbating huh? I see... what if you used masturbation to restore your stamina whenever there is a chance?
BIG ASS TUTORIAL BOX: MASTURBATE OFTEN TO RESTORE STAMINA DO THIS OFTEN
Morgana: Why don't you try masturbating right now?
Ian King
Really good game. I'd argue it's better than 4, try to get redux as it smooths over all the wrinkles the original had story wise
Jayden Cruz
It's a love-it-or-hate-it deal. She acted like a psycho, but it was completely understandable. She loved him, if it wasn't obvious in The Journey it's obvious now. Some people don't like the way she acted and judge her for it, other people admire the devotion. It's a very polarizing scene.
Brody Hall
3 - Raptor Jesus 4 - John Freeman 5 - Harry Potter
>How come this isn't praised more? It is, and it has been for like a decade. >Should I expect more from 4? Not in the slightest. 4 is the worst game in the series, especially in those aspects.
Oliver Cooper
Where did this user go wrong?
Hudson Hughes
You have to ask because you haven't played half the titles on that list?
Henry Jackson
We talking ps1 Persona 1 or psp? I've only played psp but I heard that ps1 has a great soundtrack or something
Nathaniel Lewis
4 is comfy as fuck. It's good in a completely different way than 3. Not worse, but different. It's up to personal preference at that point.
I personally prefer 4.
Owen Price
>the worst game in the series Let's not get too carried away.
>pre-autumn >need to get stronger so I don't lose anyone again >post-autumn >should have focused up and payed attention to the people in my life >better get back to training in order to protect everyone It seemed like he had already been doing his best and life just threw him another curve ball
You get to hang out with Junpei and Koromaru. You don't have to quit Tartarus after 4 battles due to your teammates getting tired. Multi hit magic spells are actually useful now. Maniac mode manages to be challenging without stripping control from the player. Vision Quest is way more fun to play than The Answer. If you know the enemy is going to hit your teammate's weakness you can actually have them defend instead of being forced to give them a free turn. Dizzy is a status effect now. This means that if you are fighting an enemy you know you can't be beat with an all-out attack you can still capiltlize on the weakness. Allies can now take mortal blows for you. This means that you won't lose an hour of progress because a random enemy landed a crit on you. The game still lets you use AI if you're that stubborn. Ken moveset is updated to make him actually useful. Obviously the presentation on FES is better and it does suck that the MC can only slash weapons in P3P, but that's really it. I've beaten both and while I've have played through P3P at least three time but I always lose steam trying to replay FES. From a gameplay standpoint P3P is just way more appealing. I also didn't like The Answer. I felt satisfied with the ending i got from The Journey. The Desert of Doors is a total slog with horrible boss design. The fact most of bosses follow a pattern of having double evasion to their weakness means you'll end up losing because of a bad dice roll instead poor strategy.
>Should I read those titles or will the Jung biography I have lying around do? The Biography will go over a lot of it, but undiscovered self has been revealing as to his interpretation of how the psychology affects society which is useful. I only just got started in getting more into it, but it's been really fun.
Its honestly garbage compared to the original OP, this is not a matter of opinions. The first OP was perfect.
Jackson Ross
>actually fucking liking the reused animation shitfest that is the FES opening over the god-tier P3Vanilla opening and the pretty good P3P opening The song is all the FES opening has going for it.
THIS Song is literally the hypest shit on the planet but it's just a lazy gameplay compilation. FUCKING BIKINI GIRLS IN DUNGEONS IN THE FUCKING OPENING WHAT THE FUCK
Thomas Martin
>song >most important part You're the biggest fucking mongoloid I've ever fucking seen. A good OP song doesn't mean shit if it's paired with a fucking boring clipshow.
To get you invested in the characters and setting so that you give a shit when the plot finally kicks off. Much better than the P5 approach where the party is constantly hounded by a rotating selection of goofy Disney villains who hog up all of their attention and discussion, even during the "casual" scenes. And thus, there is no room for the party members to develop alongside eachother.
Thomas Lopez
Yes P3 was about coming to terms with death but accepting death also means understanding the importance of life, and with that comes the struggle to live. Elizabeth is searching for a way to free his soul from being the seal, which imo fits the theme of the game just fine.
Lincoln Bennett
DREAMLESS NIGHT
Austin Garcia
I WALK AWAY
Liam Powell
>the countless pieces of evidence that humans instinctively value sound over visuals is nothing compared to my poor taste
>This is why P1P has the best opening Let's not get too carried away.
Leo Anderson
>No hug in the movie Movie can rot and hell
Juan King
Given that P3's non-FES openings are way more visually striking than the total shitfest than is FES, I'd say it still ends up being better without audio, you moron. Nobody is talking about the songs on their own, they're talking about the OPs.
Connor Long
GOTTA GET IT BACK IT'S TIME I GET IT BACK I WANNA BRING IT BACK TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS
Yeah, and sound is more important than visuals by a significant margin, so calling FES' bad just because it reuses cutscene animation doesn't mean much lol
Justin Perry
>Yeah, and sound is more important than visuals by a significant margin Not in a fucking opening, it isn't, holy fuck.
Elijah Bennett
lets be real, P4 is got big overseas because of Golden, not it's original release
Ryder Cox
Why the fuck is shinji there
Christopher Hernandez
P3P is only worth it if you're really interested in the FeMC route. Never ever fucking play it if it's your first time. In a game that spends a long ass time building it's atmosphere and doing world building turning it into a VN ruins fucking everything.
P4 got big because of tumblr fanart, but I'd also say discussion, especially at a time when then-teenagers were questioning things like their own sexuality and identity on a large scale The same also happened with Fire Emblem Awakening.
The first few months are pretty slow. Stop caring about plot and simply care about the gameplay, both the dungeons and Persona fusion but also the social link and life sim elements. You'll get your plot eventually.
Caleb Clark
The worst game in the series
Josiah Smith
Persona 3 is X-Files.
Persona 5 is Sherlock Holmes.
Persona 4 is Scooby Doo.
Austin Smith
>tfw the only SMT "game" you've played is Demi-Kids
Was I the only retard that missed that Door-kun killed The Magician during his awakening and thought it would make a surprise appearance as a late-game boss for almost the entire span of the game?
Elijah King
Slightly more polished gameplay, mostly in mechanics, battles remain largely the same.
Story is batshit bonkers, literally including aliens. It pales in comparison to DeSu 1, BUT you are capable of having the MC go full pants-on-head retarded, so it's at least entertaining when you don't try to play it straight.
Benjamin Jones
Protip for anyone ITT planning to start their first run of P3F: fuse Narcissus ASAP until you get one with its heart item, then register that one for easy anti-charm accessories. You will need them.
Grayson Rodriguez
Comparing Persona awakenings isn't fair, no Persona awakening will ever be as cool as Thanatos crashing Orpheus's awakening I didn't realize it until I watched Spring of Rebirth and saw how fucking big it was
Are the P3 movies actually any good? Ive heard positive things but P5A is so terrible I'm worried I watch it to experience P3 again and have absolutely none of the emotional or important moments hit due to shit pacing
Landon Johnson
FE4 is a bad game dude
Ian Green
Can we safely say that P5A manage to be as bad as P4G animation?
They're pretty good. Some people don't like that they push Aigis pretty hard, and all the social link stuff is cut, and I think they botched the final scene, but on the whole it's well done, especially the Shinji stuff.
Xavier Sullivan
Name a more emotional moment in the series than Junpei's ultimate Persona awakening.
>push Aigis pretty hard Based, I'll check them out. I really dont want to deal with emulation of FES or portable, both are dated and Atlus needs to remake 3 already
The first one is genuinely amazing the other 3 changed directors and are still good, but they might get grating if you're not a fan of Aigis. The fuck up the final scene though, Minato actually manages to look over at his friends running up the stairs and sees them one last time before passing away unlike in the games
P4A's bad moments and the entirety of P4GA are at least funny in how bad they get P5A is just a disgrace. I wouldn't go that far, you really get a sense that something isn't right during the scene where him and Aigis are climbing up to the roof and he can barely walk up the fucking stairs. They just fuck up the landing with the last 20 seconds.
There's no words to describe how you feel when you watch it, but you do.
Cooper Campbell
Shit taste
Christian Perez
You still need good combat.
Leo Anderson
I'm completely convinced that some of the big higher ups on the Persona team are just really big /m/fags and put all of their extra revenue they have into making sure the OSTs for Persona spinoffs material is up to par with the main games and that they get their once a year concerts done right. Then everything else is just a low budget after thought
Aiden Morales
when's the best time to grind on tartarus? should i grind a lot?
Eli Smith
part of the appeal of P4A is getting to see your favorite scenes animated somewhat nicely P5A actively looks worse than P5's gameplay
>phys skills are MP >Hama and Mudo are baby-mode >no more VIT stat SMT combat sucks though if you cream yourself to SMT, you should play pokemon and learn to play a more mature series
Brayden Myers
When you don't have anything of value to do that evening and you're in good or great condition and so is your whole team. Remember: If you can reach the barrier you can beat the full moon boss.
