Name the flaws. And don't come with shit like bad story or bad character redesign

Shit character design, you don't even need to compare them to DMC games - DmC designs are horrible on their own
Gameplay is so dumbed down that it's almost impossible to lose
Soundtrack, aside from one acceptable song ,sucks donkey dick and doesn't fit at all
Story and cutscenes are so awful they deserve a full post of their own altogether

>no styles or style-switching
>color coded enemies (they corrected this but they take less damage if you don't use the correct color on them)
>no directional inputs
>TWO (2) dedicated dodge buttons
>DT is shit
>All combos are the same on all weapons
>Hulk hands
>E&I look like shit and sound like firecrackers

>2019: I am forgotten

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and what might be the number one DMC game?

dmc2, you newfag

My biggest complaint is that the moveset feels too utilitarian. It's not, dare I say, stylish.

It doesn't have stuff like Real Impact, Omen, Mega Cascade. It doesn't have gimmick weapons like Nevan or Lucifer. The weapons are just flaccid in comparison.

And there's not even a taunt system either.

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Pros:
>first game in the series that fixed the camera
>gameplay is not as bad as Yea Forums says (dmc2-tier bad). It is just a mediocre 5/10 combat system
>something meaningless but still cool they implemented, that added a little bit of depth in the combat, a "weapon switch offset" similar to dodge offset from Bayonetta

Flaws:
>Reduction of style. They took some few style moves from old Dante and remapped them all over the gamepad. There is a lack of a lot of substantial abilities.
>Weapons. They don't have many moves and some of them get obsolete once you find the next one.
>Almost every combo input is the same.
>Color coded enemies limit your arsenal in a game where you already have very few moves
>Enemies. AI is shit. This is not something new in the franchise tho, but the game is piss easy.
>Level design is too linear and the "platforming" segments (which could have been a cool idea) are too repetitive, just pull platform, jump, pull platform, jump.
>Buggy as hell
>30 fps (I heard they fixed that in the DE)
>Difficulty. Not only reffering to Ai... The game doesn't give a difference between a good player and an expert player. It is too easy to get an SSS, even being a noob

I'm not going to say "muh dante's hair" or shit story because just casual faggots say those are the "major flaws" in the game, despite the big problems in the gameplay.

Terrible bosses
Most enemies are a joke
Getting good air time is trivially easy
Most weapon are pretty boring/undercooked, with the only exception really being Rebellion, which already stole 90% of its moves from the other games
Dedicated launcher button that doesn't much else
Donte doesn't have a taunt button for some reason
Color coded enemies are still unfun, even with the DE changes

Oh also too many filler segments in levels where you're just doing mindless platforming or unskippable walk-and-talk story segments, which makes replaying certain levels annoying

Yeah so many flaws but guess what?
Vergil has his own campaign here, not like in previous games where you just have stage rehashes playing with him.

Too bad it sucks ass

Has the same flaws that most DMC games have
>Some incredibly bad enemy design
>a few horribly bland missions

but DmC's main flaw is the combat
>no taunts
>floaty
>incredibly easy to abuse

However I still found it incredibly fun, I even enjoyed the ost somewhat and think Vergin has the best gameplay out of his appearances here

Best DMC.

VD's one of the worst parts of the game. It'd be better if they just plopped him in the main campaign

>Second best
>While DMC1, 3, V and 4SE exist
Good one, faggot

DMC1 is unironically the best in the series - quick to play, responsive, and never loses its fun value on replays. DMC3 is a slog to tread through over & over and everything is too damn dark, while 4 is noted to have its problems with backtracking. Didn’t play 5 yet, so I can’t tell how that stacks up, but 1 still seems better at glance.

>Buggy as hell
>30 fps (I heard they fixed that in the DE)
They absolutely did fix the framerate in DE, though I dunno if that’s true for the whole game or only in turbo mode, and a bunch of the bugs got unfucked in DE too. Couple this with the secret mission changes, and DE is absolutely a totally different game, it’s a definite improvement over the original and should at least be played once. DMC2 should be forgotten forever.

>DmC doesn't count, apparently
Holy fuck will they ever get over it? Of course a reboot doesn't count as a mainline entry.

>>gameplay is not as bad as Yea Forums says (dmc2-tier bad). It is just a mediocre 5/10 combat system
Yeah, that's still a flaw. I know what you say later does explain that the gameplay is flaw, but I'd never consider a pro saying "it could be worse".

>Didn’t play 5 yet, so I can’t tell how that stacks up
My biggest problem with 5 is the level design being mostly composed of corridors. Also, Dante is still locked to 7 or 8 missions. Enemy architecture is other thing that I hate. But they will never fix it at this point.

SURE, OP! Let's get into the meat of it, since you wanna actually ignore the surface details!
>The worst rainstorm OF ALL TIME, it literally has no momentum and might as well be a long cutscene. Completely useless.
>The second worst stinger. Its stylish, but once again, suffers in utility like rainstorm since its a commit more so than a movement option.
>Devil Trigger is straight up useless in terms of utility .
>Lack of combo variety. The shoulder style switch is an interesting idea but limits creativity IMMEDIATELY.
>A pointless dedicated dodge button.
>VERGIL. SUCKS. TO. PLAY.

>first game in the series that fixed the camera
Who the fuck has difficulty with the camera in DMC outside of platforming? It never hurt during combat.

>The worst rainstorm OF ALL TIME, it literally has no momentum
what do you mean? sorry im not a gunslinger

It locks you in position and you SLOWLY come down. Its infuriating, user. Its the worst move in the game.