Do you guys think that Nintendo negotiated with Project Armor, Bird Studios (Toriyama), Heart Beat, Sugiyama, AND Square Enix just to get one character, stage and like 2 songs? Sounds like a nightmare just by saying it.
Do you guys think that Nintendo negotiated with Project Armor, Bird Studios (Toriyama), Heart Beat, Sugiyama...
they had plenty of time to do it since DLC was decided last year
>Erdrick
SE are the ones that hold all the publishing rights theyd only have to go through them
Not that I want Roto
I want Slime
Erdrick seem less likely now, but I will just wait until the official second fighter is reveal instead of saying that he's out
Fucking THIS. A slime would be perfect representation and an awesome creative smash character
ERDRICKFAGS BTFO ONCE AGAIN HAHAHAHA
Sakurai's already talked to Horii (Armor Project)
Sakurai's dealt with negotiations with SE (Cloud)
They don't need to talk with Bird Studios. Toriyama doesn't own Erdrick
Exclude Heart Beat
Sugiyama has no qualms with Nintendo. He'd rather have his own music in rather than remixes.
Fortune Street
Toriyama owns the Main Character designs, that's why the main characters don't show up in spinoffs outside of armor costumes
Erdrick isn't in Fortune Street
Funnily enough all of them are more likely to be negotiated with then with Disney. Sorry sorafags.
>A counter argument draws near!
>Command?
Because he can't talk, which is important for characters to be able to do in Fortune Street. Not so important in Smash Bros though.
I thought Disney was cool with Sora being in Smash, as long as Nomura is also cool with it. And ain't Sakurai and Nomura friends or somthin?
You know who Sakurai is also friends with?
Huh, interesting
Con Man, the father of Mega Man?
Slimes can't talk
They absolutely can talk. They talk in several of the mainline games and a lot in their own spinoff series. They usually talk in translated slurps.
>All those copyright mentions
And I thought just Square Enix alone was already enough trouble.
Incidentally, "translated slurps" is also the name of a foreign blowjob porn website.
Neat
There's even a perfect tagline for it already
>SLIME DRAWS NEAR!
What a fucking gaudy color combination. Was this a sprite originally or what?
What would Erdrick even do in terms of an interesting moveset?
Disney always takes their shit out of video games eventually. Sora in World of FF was a timed event, Thanos and avengers in fortnite was a timed event. The only reason Wreck-it-Ralph is in Sonic All Strar racing is a trade deal with sega for letting sonic be in the movie. Guess what character was not in the movie? Literal gaming giant mario. I don't think nintendo really wants to work with disney on something big scale like smash.
>Disney always takes their shit out of video games eventually.
Nope!
Lightning, Tornadoes, Fireballs, Teleporting, Turning into Metal, Sleep Spells, Monsters, Various weapons, Tension, etc.
Cope
Here's a moveset I came up with for a DQ hero back before leaks were pointing to Loto. Saved it in notes.
>Hero (Dragon Quest)
>Alts change him to the protagonists of DQ 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 11.
>Uses sword for basic melee attacks, dash attack is similar to links.
>Stage entrance is Zoom
>Up B is Chimara Wing, which moves him high up, but you can't control trajectory
>Neutral B is a chargeable fireball. It goes from Frizz, Frizzle, Kafrizzle
>Down B is Psych up from 8. It's like Incineroars Revenge but it's chargeable. It powers up the next melee attack.
>Side B is also chargeable. It goes Woosh, Swoosh, Kaswoosh.
>Down Smash is Crackle, creating icicles on the ground
>Up Smash is Boom, creating an explosion above
>Side Smash is Kazap, which calls lightning from above. Good for enemies on ledges.
>Final Smash is a swarm of monsters from the series trampling over the enemies.
>Stage is Charlock Castle
The idea would be a character with a lot of chargeable moves to simulate the turn based nature of the games as well as there being a cost for using spells over weaker melee attacks.
Can't wait until E3.
You'll be BTFO and it'll be hilarious.
Yep, Blue Yellow Pink and Brown. The choice of colors hurts my eyes. It's like they played darts on the color spectrum and picked the colors that way
>Erdrick
>E3
I don't really think Erdrick is exciting enough for something such as E3
Yea just like Kencineroar wasn't hype enough for the last smash direct.
Serious question, is every dlc character gonna be literal who’s?
Remember how Palutena was announced at E3 and they saved Pac Man for a closed event?
He’s not.
With the recent confirmation that erdrickfags are bandwagoners, will you just admit you only wanted him because he looks like Goku?
That's a Smash direct tho. Not E3, which is one of the biggest gaming events. I wouldn't be shocked if Erdrick was in a direct, but since E3 is literally in like 2 months. Nintendo is prolly going to save their direct for that event.
Remember how they announced everyone from every smash game was back including Snake and Cloud and Newcomers such as Ridley in the last E3?
I'm not a rosterfag but I would like DQ to get some representation somehow, but after how they turned what could've been a summoner character into a pretty generic knife fighter I have no hope for a magical sword and shield fighter.
Except they do? Fuckin fortune street n shit my nigga
Genuinely don't see the problem here. Smash Bros is about celebrating the history of Japanese video games and Dragon Quest is one of those massive Japanese franchises that has yet to be represented and I'm sure Sakurai will have no problem jumping through hoops to represent a franchise he has plenty of respect and actual love for.
You can quit trying to think of reasons for the spooky Erdrick boogeyman to not be in the game, a DQ rep is 100% likely whether you like it or not.
Here are some of my old posts I tracked down from before the "leaks" just for people like you who doubt that maybe not everyone wants the same tunnelvision bandwagon characters like you.
All DLC comes with one stage and character dumbass. For the record Sugiyama is responsible for the music so take with that what you will...
Does anyone in this thread actually play DQ?
Based fat albert
>rosterfags
>playing video games
Pick one.
The main heroes as in the silent protagonists?
Obviously.
DQXI was my favorite game of last year
I highly doubt it. No one except Japan plays/cares about Dragon Quest
the only problem i have with "erdrick" or whatever they want to call him is that he's a goddamn sword character
as an above user said, slime would be cooler, and he would have a special where he has fled
E3 is always when they reveal the biggest shit (besides Palutena and Dark Pit, but we all know that was Sakurai bias, also Wii Fit Trainer). If Erdrick isn't in by then, Erdrickfags are fucking boned.
We're likely to get two DLC fighters at E3 anyways, but it's unlikely that one will be Erdrick considering previous Smash reveals at E3.
>Snake, Wario, ZSS, and Meta Knight
>Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and FUCKING MEGA MAN
>Pac Man, Mii Fighters, Palutena, and Dark Pit
>Roy and Ryu
>EVERYONE, Daisy, and Ridley
I'm pretty sure Slime is more recognizable than Anime swordsman #25. Plus it looks like he brings something unique to the table
Erdrick's best chances are likely a Smash direct after E3, but considering the chances of him being revealed by then when his chances rely entirely on him being Brave, it seems uncertain.
I must say those tastes are fine for someone who wanted Erdrick before Vergeben shat up the place, and now people likely hate you for your tastes because of the actions of the sinful leakers. I honestly can sympathize with you, the true Erdrickfags (boomers) shouldn't be brought into rosterfaggotry because a nobody from literal-who.com said Erdrick would be in.
They'll show a hype character in the E3 direct and show erdrick privately like how pac man was shown.
Calling it, the E3 announcement will be the Microsoft rep (Steve or Banjo)
Not even shitposting or seething when I ask, what would make Steve turn out to be “Brave”. Genuinely curious what points there would be
Pac-Man and Erdrick are two very different subjects.
Pac-Man is literally the fucking reason gaming is what it is today besides Pong. It's influential. People recognize who Pac-Man is from the mere fucking shape of a circle with a triangle cut out of it. It's recognizable.
Comparing Erdrick to Pac-Man simply makes no sense, honestly. You've never seen people saying Dragon Quest was a threat to society and making political cartoons about it, or ever see Erdrick smoking pot and being told that drugs are bad.
>Pac-Man
>One of the BIGGEST icons in Gaming fucking History, that he also was shown in the Guinness Book of Records
>Not hype
Actually off yourself
So explain why they chose to reveal pac man separately from their actual Video presentation that e3.
why would you want Erdrick when DQ is filled with more interesting characters? the Zenithia trilogy alone has better protag and party member choices
>You've never seen people saying Dragon Quest was a threat to society
DQ caused controversy in Japan because people would skip school to buy the games
>negotiated
No they paid them. Simple as.
Pac Man genuinely needs more content in Smash.
>no Pac Attack
>no Super Pac Man
>no Pac Man World
Based and Eggpilled
being in a leak really hurt the character reputation, I thought a dragon quest character would be cool to have, even if square will limit them
Not saying he is. It could be a different order for all we know. Or the name could be almost meaningless. Or it could be like an earlier user said and Erdrick is a simultaneous or nearly simultaneous reveal and he really is Brave. I just don't think anyone cares nearly as much about Dragon Quest for them to make it the center of the Smash part of their E3 show.
Stop assuming faggot, I liked pac mans inclusion but why wasn't he shown in the actual e3 presentation instead of boring ass palutena.
Sakurai bias.
Not to mention, No good Pac-alts or songs. We could've easily got Ghost Themed Pac Man alts like Blinky, Pinky, Inky, Clyde, Sue, Kinky, Dinky, Orson etc.
Cuz Sakurai bias.
I greatly appreciate your sympathy. I never thought i'd miss the days where people weren't taking Erdrick seriously.
Because Erdrick had the best shot. I'll admit Madason would be my top choice, but that's like asking for Trevor over Simon. It just isn't happening.
>Toadposter can accept genuine Erdrick fans unlike Banjofags
Absolutely fucking BASED
Smash is one of the if not the biggest franchise in the world, the DQ people probably begged Nintendo to let their niche series in
What the fuck are you talkin about
Yeah, and at the first E3 for Smash 4 Megaman was there.
?
Hold it pal, am pretty sure in Nippon DQ isn't niche.
Really? Haven't really heard much of dudes asking for DQ stuff until after all this leak shit.
Reminder that this character is just as popular as, if not more popular than Erdrick in both Japan and the US, and matches up with Brave's size.
Get ready.
I do. I have played every single game except for XI and DQ Heroes: Rocket Slime.
It sad to me that everyone hates the idea of Erdrick/Loto being DLC. I think he would be a well-deserved choice. I think he has great moveset potential. I like Dragon Quest.
It is very obvious that anti-Erdrickfags have never touched the series. They have no clue what they are talking about.
This is what I'm hoping for. Also, it's a stretch, but could Brave be related to Determination?
Why are you confused? He said what he said.
INAFUCKER
It's a real shame. DQ3 (SNES version especially) and DQ5 are some of the absolute best RPGs I've ever played. Oh, and do yourself a favor and please play Rocket Slime. It's really good. I've beaten it 3 times so far, one of which was 100%.
>He
You mean "I said what I said"
The stats are placeholder they don't matter at all.
Are both of you purposely missing Yuji Horii?
>people haven't connected the dots yet
It's hilarious, one of the next characters is relatively close by, but the leaks keep missing for a hair who's the real character
Battletoads+Erdrick+Chrono Trigger=? , do the math anons
Wouldn't doubt it. This game is about Sakurai, not the fans. SO he'll do whatever to get some generic shit into the game.
And I'm calling it right now, this nobody will have copy/pasted moves and specials AND have a counter.
If he has a counter, it's probably Kaclang.
Aight cool.
You don't need to samefag yourself phoneposter. You may not be able to see your samey filenames but we can.
Actually retarded
Don't even care that it's a bait post
Dude, we got Inceneroar and another Marth over what people want and Shovel Knight. Don't be surprised when this shit character is revealed for E3 and the big one of the pack.
>Smash Bros is about celebrating the history of Japanese video games
No, it's about gaming history. Sakurai made it about the japs only. He's a fucking hack.
>There's only one phone poster in all of Yea Forums
It's not bait, there's a very solid chance of an Undertale rep. Are you stupid?
>Posting the same Sonicfag reaction images and has multiple "le funny smug vidya face" images too
You don't need to keep trying to hide it
>an Indie rep getting in smash that's not an assist trophy
Are you stupid?
Nintendo really wants Dragon Quest to take off outside of Japan. Announcing a DQ character during E3 would give it loads of Western exposure.
There is literally 0% chance of an Undertale character getting in Smash
user, please play XI, it's very good
>posts proof that a smalltime toy manufacturer can jump through the licensing hoops
>Nintendo could never do it though
Genuinely stupid OP.
You're deluded. You would have said the exact same thing about Joker back before TGAs, and he doesn't have half as much going for him.
So, it'll work just like every other counter. MAYBE it'll have slime pop out like a cross between peach's counter and zelda shadow knight.
LMFAO A western owned character will NEVER be a playable character. THIS IS A RULE!!!
ANd most westerners will get angry at this. No one but japs want this nobody generic trash-heap as a character.
People are going to see ANOTHER generic anime sowrdsman with a counter.
Where would your most wanted fall in here?
lol no we wouldn't have. Persona is a japanese game owned by a japanese company with generic weeby trash as the characters. This is more than enough to have some inclusion. especially with Sakurai and his fucking bias.
Brawler?
That list makes no damn sense.
Ever since Cloud was added, dipshits like this think their random ass third party character belongs in Smash just because their game exists. Clowns
It's not gonna be Undermeme, but you're still gonna eat those words
Swordsman Magic/Energy
Why isn't Wii Fit in Brawler|Magic/Energy?
>WAAAH WHY WON'T THEY ADD DIXIE OR GENO
You're a joke and you're never going to get your idea of Smash back, sorry.
Probably Brawler Arsenal
I imagine Wonder Red would need to have access to all the Wonder forms in his attacks, so he'd probably be Brawler/Arsenal/Swordsman
I'm up for tips on changing it up.
The big thing is I was limiting it to
>If the character has 3 or more moves in that category, they get in it
So like Wario isn't arsenal cause his bike is the only move of his that's not really using his physical body to bash things.
Geno is third party retard
I guess Brawler or Brawler Arsenal according to this
>HE CALLED ME OUT A VALID POINT. MUST BE A ROSTERFAG
You're projecting so fucking hard to escape reality. You're never going to get your idea of a Smash with Undertale in it, sorry.
>"I didn't want him but the trailer changed my mind!"
You underestimate how easily people can be swayed
and you underestimate how much people hate generic anime swordsman with counters.
The people seem to love Joker
i appreciate that someone said it for us. it fucking sucks when you have to explain that you just really like the Dragon Quest series and thinks it deserves a representation.
That's actually a really interesting idea
Can get behind this
Pretty great way to represent him. After all, DQ3 had an extremely innovative class and party system for its time that still holds up today.
His/her cape wasn't so lavender originally, the Super Famicom remake gave them the gaudy color scheme and it stuck ever since.
Not from what I'm seeing. People are split.
Not really. Final Fantasy's representation you can chalk up to Square Enix being assholes.
Dragon Quest is legitimately a legal nightmare only really held together by virtue of everyone involved wanting to contribute to any projects.
I only played Dragon Quest Builders so far desu. Everything else might be too long or grindy for me.
Yes, but I typically don't lurk these threads because of the pure autism contained within.
>Mario wasn’t in Ready player 1
Fucking why?
He’d overshadow everyone or just Nintendo saying “Lol no”