There are two things Joker taught us about the future DLCs:

There are two things Joker taught us about the future DLCs:
>their music will have a completely new folder
>their spirits will have a dedicated board
So the next 4 characters will be from series that don’t have spirits or music already in the game

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Dragon Quest is coming

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Doom
Devil May Cry
Wonderful 101
Chibi-Robo

Neither of those things are true though.

Why?

Also Minecraft

>joker has a new folder because he's a new series
>adds a new spirit board because they can't add paid DLC to the regular pool
What is the issue here, even if the new character is from an existing series their spirits will be on the DLC board, and the music is literally because there isn't another folder for him. It didn't mean anything in 4 and it doesn't mean anything in Ultimate.

I mean, they said that the characters will be "characters you wouldn't expect in Smash Bros." It's not unreasonable for OP to expect them to be from series that aren't in Smash Bros.

I don't really think they will be, but everyone needs to temper their expectations.

The only thing we can say for sure is the dedicated board since they aren't going to add the DLC spirits to the normal rotations. It is still possible for them to add a character for a series that already has music.

Seems kind of boring for this hyped up dlc pass. Great, we get Nintendo characters that were so obscure people barely noticed they weren't there, and/or completely secondary and tertiary characters to series that already got in. I think they'll all be from 3rd party series not repped already.

Yeah, but it's nintendo at the end of the day. They'll probably want to add something to promote a new game, like Three Houses or Sword and Shield. I think the next one would probably be a third party as well, but at some point there going to do something like what they did with Corrin in smash 4.

Sakurai tweeted that the spirit thing would happen for every DLC fighter so that one is true at least

Possibly, although Smash 4 was a different time. The dlc wasn't nearly as structured as it is now, it was just them haphazardly throwing stuff into the game. Also, I'm pretty sure the promo character will be from Dragon Quest. There are new games coming out for it on the Switch, and Nintendo usually publishes them in the west.

and Mortal Kombat and Ninja Gaiden

Why do you dumb fucking retards keep trying to find patterns and "rules"?
Sakurai does what he wants, how he wants, and when he wants.
The dude has contradicted himself a million times over already.
Just shut the fuck up on how "I'VE TOTALLY DISCOVERED THE SECRETS TO WHO CAN OR CAN'T BE ADDED."
God damn.

Sakurai didn't fully decide the Challenger pack DLC character.
Nintendo gave him a list.
Also Reggie has stated that the Challenger Pack will not contain characters that have showed up in smash in any capacity when Joker was announced.

How can people be such brainlets that they didn't understand what Reggies quote meant?
He said every DLC will be new to super smash brothers. As in, they already have all past existing characters so any DLC that comes out will be a completely brand new fighter and not an old character from an older game.

What if they move existing series/spirits to a new board, such as Wars or W101?

Sauce on Reggie saying that?

As far as I can see the criteria are only
>Is a video game character
>Series has appeared on Nintendo or has ties to Nintendo
Everything else is stupid bullshit

Reggie meant that there are no more older characters to bring back, since everybody is already in ultimate. Because of that, every single DLC character is new to the series of super smash brothers. How are you so dumb?

That's not the part i'm talking about. The full quote is
>"These are going to be characters that are new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5. Characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate."

The focus is on sentence 2.

The ONLY thing that's official is that each dlc fighter will get a spirit board
Everything else is just conjecture

my little pony

Sylux represents Metroid Prime as its seperate subseries, Like Mario Kart having it's own music folder.
I'm just having a laugh.

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Crash Bandicoot

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>new fighters will not have existing representation within the game
But user...it's 100% true and everyone knows it...you're not still hoping for Geno are you?

>tfw Metroid Prime already has 2 reps now
The world has been to kind lately

I know you're just having a laugh, but Dark Samus is also an exclusively Prime character.

>Characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate."
As opposed to characters we WOULD anticipate to be in Smash Bros? Sounds like basic PR talk to me.

The DLC should all be Assists made playable. Ashley, Isaac, Waluigi, Dillon, and Lyn.

That sentence doesn't mean anything, like, at all. Piranha plant was just as much of a surprise, if not bigger, than joker. And Plant is from a series that already has a ton of reps.

It absolutely shocks me that there are still people thinking that any of the dlc characters will come from a franchise that's already in the game

Literally the moment he was showcased at The VGAs.
Everyone already knew there was no more older character to bring back so he obviously didn't mean that.

Dillon is the only one on that list that actually deserves to be a fighter.
Since Sonic was such a fucking let down, maybe Dillon could be the proper Sonic character.

Corrin exists. Stop getting your hopes up.

based and redpilled, but not happening

There are music tracks and spirits from Wonderful 101.

>Everyone already knew there was no more older character to bring back so he obviously didn't mean that.
Thats exactly why he did mean that though, he gave exactly nothing away about the DLC lineup while still making it sound exciting. Literally empty PR speak.

it's time

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What does that even mean? Why are you bringing up a dlc character from the last game? THIS game's paid dlc characters will not be from a series that has representation in the game. I have no clue why you responded with such an off topic statement. Then again, I am on this board for some reason.

That is quite literally exactly what he meant.

No character “deserves” a place in a video game.

Not him, but Corrin was an outlier thrown in at the very end of Smash 4 to promote a recent Nintendo game. Smash Ultimate DLC is much more planned and calculated. They can't just throw in characters willy nilly anymore

That's just marketing talk.

>THIS game's paid dlc characters will not be from a series that has representation in the game.
[citation needed]

You could have a dedicated board for gen 8 Pokemon retard

Post YFW it isn’t DQ

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You just cant accept that geno and that fat kid from mother will never join the roster can you?

Plant is paid DLC, so you're already wrong, retard.

If they can add a disappointing first party rep to 4 as DLC they can add one to Ultimate as DLC. There is a precedent, and you'd be dumb to expect more out of them when they still pull shit like saving Incineraor for the last roster reveal. They never said there won't be first party reps, they never said they won't be from series in the game, and you shouldn't get your hopes up that your made up standards will be met when the track record is shoddy at best.

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Genofags kept saying Brawl would have him as DLC and only him.

I don't know who either of those characters are.

It's gonna be so weird seeing Undertale with all those other franchises. Feels good!

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>he wants more fire emblem swordies and a goomba carbon copy
I sincerely hope goku, steve, and master chief end up in the game just to watch this board burn

>they will all be composite characters with moves taken from existing characters

Plant isn't a FP character, it was going to be in the base roster but they ran out of time. They explicitly said this.

>Dark Souls
>Motoi Sakuraba has done music for Smash since Brawl
>assuming he's fine with his songs being used that means the entire OST for DS1, half the OST for DS2, and a good chunk of DS3's OST for song choices

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DS as in Dark Souls or what? What is this post about?

Oh my fucking god. The Plant was the Nintendo one. Joker is Sega's. If the next character is Capcom, Namco, Konami or Squeenix it's pretty much settled. All the DLC will belong to the companies already in the game. One for each.
Get ready for yet another Capcom rep

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Disregard me I suck cocks, missed the first line of your post

I was able to purchase Persona spirits from the in-game shop without buying the DLC. If they can add the new spirits to that, then there's no reason they could be added to the normal Spirit Board.

>>he wants more fire emblem swordies and a goomba carbon copy
>putting words in my mouth

#1 Capcom pick would be Phoenix Wright, followed closely by Monster Hunter

>M-MUH PATTERNS GUYS

You can't deny it makes sense.

VGA's right after Joker's reveal from the mouth of Reggie.
People are now trying to twist it into him talking about how there won't be anything returning characters as DLC when everyone already realized that since the game contains all prior characters already. So it wouldn't have to be stated.

It's not a pattern if only one of the 5 has been confirmed. Plant doesn't count, you're an idiot.

This is why I still think Travis is gonna make it in despite Suda's claims. They have spirits from just about every game that's been on a Nintendo console but not a single No More Heroes one. How hard would making a dark-haired Shulk fight be?

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>Of all the Nintendo characters
>Fucking Piranha Plant is the one they put in the game
If this ends up being the case I'll be kinda mad desu

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>implying companies care about consistency in there "patterns"

>Plant doesn't count
It's a DLC. Yes it does

Bowser and Dorf are both Lawful Evil.

>There is a precedent, and you'd be dumb to expect more out of them
There is also a precedent with a completely out of left field pick like joker being added to the game. Not to say there won't be any first party characters, but unless they believe a first party rep would push more sales than a third party rep like joker, I say it's a safe bet to expect all third parties

Nah I'm a solo joker main. You got a citation for that brother?

>MFW it's not ANY Square character

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He's in

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Capcom has a ton of great franchises. I wouldn't be mad if there was one. Just hope it's a Mohan rep and not another street fighter.

Are you counting the Meta Ridley skin as a separate rep from regular Ridley?

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>VGA's right after Joker's reveal from the mouth of Reggie
Give the quote where he said "characters will not be from a series that has representation in the game". I'll wait

Sakurai is pretty autistic, mate. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Nintendo gave him 100 options and he instantly thought to himself "I'rr add one for SEGA, one for Capcom, one for Konami, one for Squareu and one for Namco horhorhor''

It will be RE

It only "makes sense" if you work backwards from your conclusion, like how all conspiracy theories work.

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Or. Maybe you could find it yourself since we gave you the exact moment in the VGA's to go look for it instead of being a lazy shit.
It's literally the only time Reggie is on screen.
I'm not helping you further.

I guess you're right, but that applies to any kind of prediction. What I meant is that mine is not too unrealistic.
Don't come crying to me if it actually happens

>doomguy's recovery is an archvile showing up just to blast him, causing him to jump higher

I know what Reggie said, and he didn't say anything about characters not being from a series that already has representation in the game. So, again, give the quote where he said that.

>their music will have a completely new folder
Monster Hunter had a folder but it was removed before release

>their spirits will have a dedicated board
Rare had spirits but they were removed before release

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How do you know this? Just because it happened with Joker, how is it a rule?

This is stupid.

You don't. and you never tried looking and you still expect a hand out.

Step aside

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>Namco

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Capcom has way too many good options. Fuck

>about the future DLCs
>will be from series that don’t have spirits or music already in the game

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You won't give the quote because he never said that.
I'll take that as a concession.

Resident Evil
Tales of
The King of Fighters
Ninja Gaiden

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>Free DLC with no extra content

>Squeenix
Fuck yes

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Fossil Fighters chances are gone so ignore that one.

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It was free for anyone who bought the game at launch at least

>All the DLC will belong to the companies already in the game.
Are you retarded?

It depends. What do you mean?

>piranha plant
>fighter pass character

Piranha Plant was meant to be a free DLC for early adopters. Shit, Sakurai even picked Piranha Plant himself. Don't be retarded.

I wonder if their charge slash will be more powerful than doriyah. In fact, I bet Sakurai will announce a mechanic where if you charge release the forward smash at the right time you do a level 3 charge for extra damage

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Update the list then

Not him but you'd have to be delusional to think we aren't getting a Kellogs character.

It retarded to think that Nintendo arbitrarily limited themselves to characters from companies that already have characters in Smash.

Sad thing is if they ever offically updated that image they would use the P5 logo

Why is it so unrealistic to you, nigger? It can totally happen. You're probably just desperate

>Why is it so unrealistic to you, nigger?
Because it's a baseless theory with no evidence behind it, you double nigger.

>If it's baseless it's unrealistic
That's not how it works

I won't give the quote because you're lazy and won't look it up yourself.
Nobody here is your maid. We gave you ample directions to the quote. It's nobody else's job to find it.

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Seeing as Agumon is a lock, will they use music from the anime like ButterFly and Brave Heart? Or just the World games?

For anyone who bought it before Febuary. Which like 3 months of free.

>Dragon Ball music
>Dragon Ball FighterZ music
>Dragon Ball Spirits (Vegeta, Krillin, Yamcha, etc.)
>Tenkaichi Budokai arena stage
Would be based as fuck.

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>Joker is Sega's
Joker is Atlus.
Only because Sega owns Atlus doesn't mean they own SMT/Persona.
Intelligent Systems own Fire Emblem. If Nintendo were to sell IS for some reason, they'd take FE with them.

Why the fuck do you people care so much who carries the rights to the franchises. What matters is the franchise itself.

There can be more similarities between two series from different publishers than two from the same. Like compare Dante and Ammy to Chrono and Isaac.

I can't find something that doesn't exist

>Post yfw Goku is in

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>Seeing as Agumon is a lock

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Piranha Plant was meant to be free for people who bought the game early. He's completely separate from the fighters pass characters.

>Capcom
Phoenix
>Namco
Prince of all Cosmos
>Konami
Pyramid Head
>Square
Sora
Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

>muh patterns!
You people never fucking learn

True. But you have been clearly told where it is. So it clearly exists.

Who do you want? Goku?

BUWAAAAAAGHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!

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These people are retarded and do this garbage every single game.

>We're slowing down on Fighter reveals
>"Omg guys he's gonna reveal 6 fighters"
>Ridley's shadow shows up while talking about stage hazards
>"Omg guys Ridley is gonna be playable this time"
>Rex Mii costume shown while they explicitly state he was too late for the project plan, which was decided ahead of time
>"No guys he could still be DLC"

Just insane delusion, it has the most obvious meaning like it always does that the characters are gonna be from new franchises.

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It still counts as a Sega franchise regardless. Only it's Second party

Pretty much yeah

>meta knight true nuetral
Way to reveal you haven’t played the Kirby series in the past decade and a half

That's exactly how it works. It makes no sense for Nintendo to limit their selection like that. And there's no evidence that's what Nintendo is going to do. It's fucking retarded.

user that doesn't make any sense.
Of course Joker brought a new music folder with him, he's from a new franchise. It wouldn't have made any sense for him to NOT come with a new folder, so how does this teach us anything?

I know. But he was free for literally everyone who bought the game Prior to the end of February. Not just on release.

I really like Joker and appreciate all the effort they put into the character (reveal trailer, music, stage, even side characters cheering on). If they include Goku and show his franchise as much love as they did for Persona, we could have something very special.

$5 says Piranha plant was supposed to be in Base game but was pushed to DLC to help Sell Copies for Early purchases.

I mean evidence:
1: Has a Palutena's Guidance Convo.
2: His Amiibo is already out.

DLC characters will not have a Palutena's guidance Convo, its the same thing that happened with Smash 4.

i think hes in too

>Neutral good
>Shulk

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>$5 says Piranha plant was supposed to be in Base game but was pushed to DLC to help Sell Copies for Early purchases.
That's bullshit. We know that Piranha Plant was always meant to be a bonus character that people could get for free. The fact that he has a Palutena's Guidance just means that they decided on the bonus character before the fighters pass characters.

Quote
>the indie game that has had a million rereleases at this point
>good music
>spirits of the doctor, misery, balrog, etc
>potential for curly echo
Hunter/Palico
>mh already has its fingers in smash
>good music
>different monsters, guild maids, and weapons for spirits
That’s all I can think of currently

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>It makes no sense for Nintendo to limit their selection like that
Explain right now why.

The quote you pointed to isn't the quote you claim he said. So you've yet to actually backup anything you said

Because Nintendo works with a ton of different companies. Why the fuck would they limit themselves to only five companies?

There are two things Joker taught us about the future DLCs:
>They will wear a mask
>They will be from the fifth game in their franchise

Morrigan you mean.

>Agumonfag is a Sneedposter
Amazing

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Jokes on you. I wasn't person to started talking to in the first place.

No. I mean the vastly superior muscle kitty girl

Well, mate, Joker already fits what I described. So that's one point for me and none for you.

OH NO

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I duno if this list is a guess or what you hope for. Regardless its fucking horrible.

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What characters are people expecting in Ultimate? We're practically at the bottom of the barrel for Nintendo characters and there is no shoe-in 3rd party character. Even the characters that the fanbase "expects", would be considered surprises.

delusional

Denial

There is no way in hell that Felicia would ever make it into fucking Smash. Even ignoring the fact that Morrigan will always be the first pick for crossovers, Nintendo would sooner put Jedah into Smash and make his attacks purple slime like in MvCI before putting in the walking family-friendly-image-ruining headline that is Felicia. I am well aware of her character and backstory, that doesn't change the truth of the matter.

That's like saying monkeys aren't mammals because they're primates

That's just the characters I want user, not the ones I think are realistic. I also think Pyramid head has 0 fucking chances

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Not them but, a Microsoft character would probably be unexpected to the general public since they are technically a competitor, and if it wasn't for those "leaks" a Dragon Quest character would seem out of left field. Other than that, I am sure there are some big name franchises that people aren't really looking at. Keep in mind also that the "fanbase" isn't just Yea Forums.

Leon - Resident Evil
Erdrick - Dragon Quest
Not sure - Tekken
Arle - Puyo Puyo

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>Not sure
I know it's impossible, but if it was up to me...

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While I don't know if I'd consider what you said fact, it does seem likely especially with what Reggie said. What it also taught is we should probably expect as many blade wielding anime rpg characters with a counter or power up mechanic. Smash 4s DLC was half of that so expect at least 2 more just to not be disappointed.

Not a separate rep, but it still counts for Prime.

What do I do against this asshole as Ridley? He's the only thing I see anymore and his base form is manageable but then you hit him a few times and "Perthonaaaaaa~" and his fuck buddy pops out giving him the strength of Ganondorf in with the speed and range of an FE character. Fucking god damn.

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>The ultimate Nintendo celebration
>Giygas is nowhere to be seen
It feels so wrong...

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>the rules and format are clear
>this is what to expect
>something unexpected happens that changes the rules

>NOW the rules and format are clear
>rules change again

Most Erdrickfags are bandwagoners, so I'll be happy.

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>Characters with no moveset potential can't be in Smash
>Falcon is in 64
>Completely forgotten characters can't be in Smash
>G&W joins Melee
>3rd party characters can't be in Smash
>Snake and Sonic join Brawl
>3rd Party characters that have almost no history with Nintendo can't be in Smash.
>Cloud joins in 4
>Characters that have never been on a Nintendo console in any way can be in Smash
>Joker joins in Ultimate
What long held belief is getting broken next?

Kingdom Hearts, I'm almost positive at this point.

I think the only belief left is that is has to be a video game character
We're getting Goku, aren't we?

>>Joker
>>have never been on a Nintendo console in any way

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Violent characters? Although Bayo broke that rule kind of.

Precedents change for each smash game dude. Brawl had a precedent of not adding characters that do not typically fight. That changed. Melee had a precedent of not adding too many kirby characters for fear of the game's roster as being seen as biased towards Sakurai's opinion. That changed. Do I need to keep going?

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Western third parties, such as Banjo.

>Metal gear contains Mass murder, Rape and harsh language
>Bayonetta contains stuffing angels into giant grinders
>Persona contains Mental disorders and giant penis monsters
"Shock" is not a factor here

Because it's fun to try and predict, and you cant predict without finding a pattern
Not everyone is a stick in the mud like you bro

Are Patternfags the most autistic group of people on Yea Forums?

Most boring characters desu

this, there should be a ballot were you vote wich assists should be upgraded to fighters

No. Vergefags like you are

my brother

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>Three literal goddesses in Smash

Goku, Spongebob, and Mickey Mouse soon

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Not so fast. Western franchise wasn't broken yet

Notice how every single franchise with a playable character in Smash is from a Japanese IP. Even the characters made in the west (Dark Samus, Krool, and Diddy) belong to Japanese series.

>yet

Yes, exactly what you heard

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He's in.

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Wonderful 101 and Monster Hunter both have spirits and songs in game already.

Glad we're on the same page

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As much as I want a MonHun rep, Okami would be a perfect fit for Smash

no

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You. No.
You didn't say it right

Imagine the smash render. Imagine the Sun rises remix

cope

Imposter.

>Other companies are pretty much scratching the barrel
>Capcom is still full of good shit to give
How do they do it?

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>Chun Li is in the center of the picture
It should've been her bros

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Too similiar to Mewtwo.
Also dead, overrepresented franchise

No excuse. he could've been a Spirit easily

It'll be Dante just you wait

Jesus christ, how hard is it for Capcom to just make a fighting game like this, we all fucking want it

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>they could add half a dozen more Capcom franchises and add multiple characters from each franchise represented in Smash and almost all of them would be big crowd pleasers
>an entire season pass could just be Capcom characters

Im gonna be waiting for him to get in until the sun implodes

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Mate, MvC kind of...exists

Do you see any Marvel in that image?

N-no.

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Literally what? How can you confirm the music will only be in new folders?

It makes sense when you think about it. Why would they add new music from a folder already in the game? Kind of retarded

At its peak, Capcom was pretty much Nintendo 2

>Erdrick