>More defensive options
>More movement options
>More offensive options
>More complex movesets
>More dynamic fights
How the fuck do people play Ultimate? It's so limiting in comparison.
More defensive options
Cooper Taylor
Carson Campbell
it has ridley and wasn't made by a bunch of faggot autists
kys
Jonathan Cox
>japanese game developers
>Not faggot autists
pick 1
Isaiah Smith
>literally only made because "wah brawl wasnt like melee"
kys
Dominic Myers
Why does having more control over your character make a game less fun to you?
Adam Perry
Too bad the lead admins went full Jew and killed the project for a rip-off that failed hard.
Camden Jenkins
ultimate isn't a soulless mod that hacked in wavecheating
Andrew Brown
I miss PM, gimr is a cuck
Oliver Scott
project m was trash
Jackson Perry
Both ultimate and PM are great. Ultimate is casual smash where as PM is melee without the smell.
Gavin Bennett
>people want Melee but with the good things from Brawl
I thought this was a common opinion.
Samuel Diaz
Trannys have caused immense damage to the small PM scene
Carter Baker
Tfw I just want to play PM but don’t want to go to some tranny’s house for the meet up
Elijah Baker
What?
Adam Johnson
>limited viable roster
>screams that it's fast gameplay is unmatched
>struggles to beat a character who now invalidates the God of the fucking game with some decent fundamentals and spacing
>less music
>no stage builder
>90% of stages unviable
Why even play gaylee it's gay
Lucas Sanders
Why are ultimate fans so obsessed with Melee that any time they look at a game that's not ultimate they see melee?
Colton Lee
Because that's the traditional evolution of all fighting games. Tekken 7 isn't the one with the highest skill ceiling. Xrd is shit compared to +R, BBCTag is shit compared to Central Fiction. SFV is shit compared to previous SFs. Companies want to make profit at the end of the day, and this means being more accessible. That's why the games on EVO now are slower and have less skill ceilings than in the past. Smash will never be blazing fast or have the same freeform combo potential like in Melee. Deal with it.
Chase Murphy
>Melee
Alexander Brooks
That's Project M. Way to out yourself as a Sm4sh babby who knows nothing about Smash games.
Josiah Diaz
Ultimate is faster than modern melee though
Andrew Perry
Ultimate is slower with less combos. PM is the GOAT.
Aaron Barnes
Your favorite Post-PM smash character gets added to the latest build of Project M for Smash Ultimate, what new gimmicks do they have to make them a cooler character?
Ryan Morris
None. The gimmicky moveset design is why PM never caught on and why Melee is still here.
Dylan Adams
Jokes on you, Ridley and Dr Mario already are in Legacy XP.
Anthony Martin
Ever been to a PM tournament? It still smells, but it's more of a DUDE WEED stank. Better, but not perfect.
Colton Jenkins
Simon Belmont: I don't think he really needs anything different, although perhaps make Grand Cross a full level effect rather than a cinematic "snare" FS. Alt costume would be either 2001 Kojima Simon or Mirror of Fate Simon.
Samuel White
EG|PPMD: I do not like Super Smash Bros. 4 on a competitive level. I find it shallow and that it rewards very basic strategies that do not allow for deeper interaction with an opponent, and I also feel that even combos are jammed or not so meaningful. I personally greatly enjoy deep, intense interaction and the ability to play at a variety of speeds and still be effective. I do not believe Ultimate has that potential, unfortunately. It can be fine for those willing to learn very specific skillsets, but I think there is much greater reward in learning the depth of Melee.
Brody Bennett
>Memelee
Levi Turner
PM is where all the autists who were unironically too shit at melee to compete go so they can feel good about playing broken janklord characters like gnw and wario
Alexander James
>Look I replied to everyone!
Lucas King
>autocombos
that's why.
Jackson Nguyen
>meleefag gets beat up irl
>WTF HOW DO PEOPLE STAND DOING IRL FIGHTS THERE IS LIKE NO MOBILITY OR FREEDOM
Ian Miller
> fox’s grab combo to upair well into kill %
> C.falcon any aerial can combo into knee
> falco pillar
> sheik’s whole moveset made for easy combo
CLAP and CHEER
> any PM character specific combo
BOOOO jank and gimmick, play a real character
Liam Turner
>PM
>Get grabbed at 0%
>Literal 0-death because combos are designed to be true and easy, regardless of DI
Also none of what you just stated is universally true in Melee you dunce. It is in PM though because haha all characters need to be """""balanced""""" :)
Lucas Kelly
>look I'm making shit up!
epic
Josiah Cooper
>Autocombos
>Image demonstratably shows how auto combos are impossible.
Ryan Gray
>get jabbed into a cross into a hook
>WTF I SDI'D ALL THOSE HITS AND WAVEDASHED HOW DID I GET HIT WEHRE IS MY MELEE
Nathaniel Bell
There hasn’t been easy 0-death combo since 3.5 or was it 3.0, where every character get overall nerfed. Fox has the easiest time getting grab in the game and still has one of the biggest pay off from grab in the game and it works on all characters regardless of weight and floatiness. That along with shine is why fox is still top tier even in PM. I clearly mentioned how every top tier melee character always get some easy conversion combo (hence why they are top tier) and it get carried over to PM. At least they nerf sheik’s grab though, that shit was stupid.
Caleb Martin
When are people gonna be allowed to work on PM balance without it being taboo
Carter Richardson
a patch literally just came out
James Howard
When Warchamp stops being the admin of Smashboards.
Aaron Roberts
I completely forgot PM even existed