DMC

>ambientation

I love when you retards make up words and think you have some semblance of credibility.

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Sure, corridors, sure.

What the fuck are you on about? Are you trying to say ambiance? Orientation?

Boss design was great, they had some personality opposed to the,... well you know
>hurrr i am X, and i show up here to kill yooouuu now

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breed nico

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Now that the dust has settled was DMC5's story cringe or kino?

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probably atmosphere

Crino

Agree with all except stage design. Dmc3 was my favorite there with dmc1 second in that category.

I can understand people loving DmC because it appeals to casual ground of the genre. But how is that dmc2 gets love here? It is terrible, not only as a DMC, not only as a Hack n slash, but as a video game in general

Cringeno

Same. Itsuno can't design levels worth shit without resorting backtracking to the same shit after the 1st half or just flat out ignoring it altogether.

Gameplay
Any other action game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire DMC series

Story
Any other game period >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMC

Basically
Any game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMC series

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Here come the hard facts.

1 >> DmC > 3 > 5 > 4

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Not that user but I like most of the enemies in 2 at least in concept: finis demons, savage golem, mancers, secretaries, infestant, goat clan, jokatgulm, bolverk, the wolves, etc. I feel that they deserved a better AI, moveset and game in general than what they're eternally stuck with. Savage golem in 4 or 5 would be a beast of an enemy, to put an example.

I also like some of the things 2 introduced: bloody palace, sin DT, fast weapon switching (that shit you do in 1 to switch between ifrit and alastor doesn't count), twosome time, those elemental amulets, etc. I'm still waiting for the day in which the amulets return to the series, hopefully together with lucia.

The bad immensely outweights the good and 2 is a terrible game even if you personally like it, but I like to think of it as a potentially good dmc game forever trapped in a crust of shitty exec decisions and rushed dev time.

>DMC2 IS BAD
>Why user?
>UHHHH UHHH GLITCHES AND BAD DANTE
>But user the rest isn't ba-
>NOPE NOPE NO-

Don't entertain the DMC3 fags.

He's a confused italian man who thinks ambientazione translates directly into english
what he meant to say was setting

No.

All i know is i liked 5, but it felt too easy.
What i mean is, I'm a noob, I only played each game once, on normal difficulty(i dont remember the name), stopping playing briefly after finishing them without bothering with bloody palace and the likes, and just going through the missions without caring too much about ranks and stuff, and while in my noobness i always got C or B with very few sparse A and maybe one S in dmc 1, 2, 3, and 4, i got almost all S or SS in 5, with one SSS and 2 other missions where i got A and B.
Some would say it's cause i probably got better playing the 4 previous entries, but i doubt it's the case, since replaying random missions in each exactly to see if i got better, i got the same results i always did, C, B, or A at best.

Yes, it is true. Dmc5 Normal difficulty is the easiest of the franchise (not counting 2 or DmC)

why didnt you play on devil hunter? its my first dmc game and devil hunter is mildly challenging. pretty easy.

Especially playing with V, there were times where i literally just mashed the 2 attack buttons with some random command input here and there, and it took maybe 5 seconds to get an S or even more?
Of course i'm talking about the fight ranks and not the mission total.
Same goes with Nero, one basic combo ending with launching the enemy up, jump, couple slashes, one hit of devil breaker, grab the enemy again, 2 more slashes, repeat with another enemy, and i get S or SS.
The same series of attacks in previous entries would award that with a B at best i think, especially since there were at least 3 or 4 more enemies on which you could raise your ranks, but not in 5, even if there's 10 enemies at once, basic combos on the first 2 are enough to get you an S, then it's as easy as not breaking the combo, with no need to change your attacks too much, and you'll get SS or SSS on the other enemies.

If you're replying to me, devil hunter IS the normal difficulty mode im talking about and on which i played it, Human is the easy one.

why you didn't mention dmc2? I know it is the worst one but it deserves to be mentioned

>Stage design
JUST GIVE ME A BLANK FUCKING ROOM AND SHIT TO KILL, THAT'S ALL THESE FUCKING GAMES NEED

fuck off edgy kid, ppl praise 3 for a reason and just because a nobody dislike it doesn't mean it isn't good

Pfff...

That's bloody palace for ya.

Kinda sad 1 never got a bloody palace of its own. Not even a shittily-put-together one in the HD collection. Imagine the room with 5 shadow or DMD nightmare 3 near the end.

NG>GoW

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1 doesn't need a bloody palace, it's not that kind of action game. What would be more interesting is multiple enemy types per normal encounters, in addition to instant gun switching.

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It would be cool tho

4SE is better than 1 tho.

gameplay
5 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 2
story
3 > 4 > 5 > 1 > 2
stage
1 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 2
whole
3 > 5 > 1 > 4 > 2

How is 4 better than 3 in terms of gameplay? It is just an actualization of 3

splitting the story in two with a too hard to master dante after nero was a mistake

Pacing completion has nothing to do with the core gameplay.

This honestly. I like 3's story and think it's probably the best story out of all the DMC games, but that's it. There are people here who take it way too far and make it out to be HOLY FUCK LITERAL GOD TIER 10/10 KINO. I don't want to seem like a fence sitter, but even though DMC3's story has more depth to it than people who just think it's "haha wacky cringy goofy japanese action game", it's also not AS deep as some people make it out to be. Not bashing DMC3, it's still probably one of my favorite games of all time but I think some people have their nostalgia goggles on with it.

there are some negative aspects but overall, pretty kino
>4 over 5 in story
for what purpose

>stage
>1 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 2
Honestly I liked actually like the atmosphere in 2. I would put it at least before 5.

5 story is ok unless vergil returns, after that is only low-budget 3

5 > 4 > 1 > 3

I genuinely love the story for DMCV. The ending was fucking great, right up there with DMC3's ending except the music was even better.

Story goes V > (very close) 3 > 4 > 1 > 2.

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Here is why DMC3 has good writing, because of character development:
Dante starts off being incredibly immature, being merely carried by his superhuman powers and not taking anything seriously.
Lady comes in and he starts getting the memo that family is important and he only snaps out of his wacky mode once she goes on about how she is trying to kill her father for murdering her mother.
That leads into Dante taking things a bit more seriously, at least when it comes to Vergil and Sparda, with Dante taking up at least part of Sparda's legacy when he embraces the fact that he actually cared about someone and had a heart that could love someone.
Vergil's motivation isn't as clear, but it is very heavily implied through his dialogue and gameplay lines that he reveres his father, obviously wanting his power.
The why isn't clear, but I do like the distinction that Dante embraces the fact that Sparda was a demon who loved a woman, while Vergil is embraces Sparda's strength and that Sparda whacked Mundus.
Vergil does has a lot of lines about 'this is the power of Sparda' and especially deciding to stay in the demon world when he loses to Dante, to be closer to daddy.
Lady and her killing Arkham is one of my favorite things and a pretty damn strong b-plot.

Hope that helps you out, brainlet.
That said, 5's story and writing are complete garbage. Especially when it comes to Vergil.

I don't really get this criticism, other people have said it before. 5's story similarities in the grand scheme of things are only really similar if you describe it extremely vaguely. I don't see how Vergil returning in 5 makes it a "rip off" of 3. For me the only problem with it was that Verg coming back happened too late in the story and the final fight with him happened too quickly, like it needed a but more build up. Like V needed to reunite with Urizen a but earlier and the game needed to be just a few missions longer. But to each his own.

5s writing is complete garbage, sorry

>DMCV
>especially when it comes to Vergil.
this is the true brainlet opinion

You sure convinced me with those hot opinions.

is what i mean. i saw vergil's return as a perfect two third scene, but the game ended too fast not showing vergils reasons at all, unless the flat "two brothers fight forever because why not"

5 > 3 in story because 3 has nothing like the final Urizen fight at Dante's house. True kino.

Literal brainlet opinion

Not an arguement

v as mundus reincarnation (or mundus trying to return) was a far better idea. thay can bring vergil as a damaged nelo angelo fighting against dante and nero and mundus. at the two third of the story mundus is kills for sure by nero and vergil rise again using mundus remains of power and becoming the new villain

Agree with this for the most part, but 4 has really gimmicky and shitty stage design so I like 5's more.

5 also felt like DMC finally stept away from resi-esque level design and just made it straight forward. Never got lost in DMC5 but I still get constantly lost in 3

Is this not the ending of DmC

> nero becomes the villain
are you on crack?

the qliphoth levels are boring for the most part, they should have used more gothic location mixed with the chaos-tree stages

DMC5 has produced top tier Devil may cry porn

vergil*

Reminder that Matt literally confirmed that the development of DMC5 is done.

That's bullshit but I believe it

Yeah but that doesn't mean additional content isn't already done and waiting to drop.

Unless you REALLY think Bloody Palace needed an extra 22 days in the oven to finish.

>Lists gameplay as better in 5 than 3
>zero other attributes in 3 are listed as better than 5
>HURR, as a whole, 3 is better than 5
Are you fucking retarded m8?

Would you prefer to see a remake of dmc1 or dmc2?

none

Nigga you gay?

1 easily. 2 is fucking stupid from the premise alone.

>dmc2
>remake
>ever
please just let that trash crash and burn and be forgotten forever

good thing you don't write for dmc

What if we crank the autism up to 11?
>Gameplay
5>4=3>1>2
3, 4 and 5 are clearly an entirely different gameplay mindset than 1 and 2. 5 is the most refined of its kind, while 2 is the worst offender overall. I like 3's crazy combos and I much prefer its trickster and royalguard over 4's, but 4 feels a bit less cardboardish on the character movement than 3.
>Story
3>4=5=1>2
I think 3 is the best story the franchise ever told, but it's by no means a high work of art or anything. It just has the right amount of characters (not too few like 1, not too many like 5) to work with, and a clear endgame that is enjoyable.
>Characters
3=5>4=1>2
I like dante in 5 better than in 3, but I enjoy arkham and 3's lady infinitely more than I do urizen or 5's lady. I enjoyed urizen more before I knew anything about him, to be honest. The only characters I really like from 4 are agnus and dante having fun, but the rest (kyrie, credo, sanctus) are dull. Sanctus is an offensively dull big bad. I like arius better than him. Still, arius' game has duller characters than 1 or 4.
>Environment
1>3>4>2=5
I still stand by the idea that 1's creepy atmosphere and gothic setting is the best the franchise has ever had and has yet to be topped. 3's tower tries, but ends up being too samey with only a few cool areas (leviathan, nirvana). 4's castle, snow and jungle areas mix it up a little in terms of variety, but they're too short, and then there's the negative of the horrid puzzles and backtracking. 2 had a map too big and samey for its own good. 5 might have high res environments but the tree fell incredibly short of my expectations and I don't care about the city levels.

>its a vergil is playable but only in bp or main game episode again
that shit reboot got it right why can't the actual good game get dlc.

Sasuga mhafag

>Puzzles
3=1>5>2>4
I feel like puzzles of the "find mystic relic A to insert in ancient socket B" help make the levels not feel like just a bloody palace with cutscenes. I like how 3 and 1 did it, and while I don't like 5's lack of puzzles besides the nidhogg hatchling, I prefer no puzzles over whatever 4's deal was.
>Weapons
5=3>4>1>2
Not much to say here. 5 has the better weapons, but 3 is still the most creative roster. Some of my favs are on 4, but it has too little variety and some mechanical fuckups. I'll never forgive 1 for locking sparda's DT to a boss fight, and 2 for its disgusting sword movesets and lack of gauntlets or anything imaginative.
>Enemies
5=1>4=3>2
I used to think 1 had the best enemies until 5 came around. They both did a great job and I think 5 has an edge over 1 by polishing the nobody, even. 4 has a couple of terribly painful, boring and unrewarding enemies, but so does 3. 2 is cursed by its terrible AI, despite having some imaginative dedigns.
>Bosses
4>5=3>1>2
I think 3's only truly worthwhile bosses are cerberus, A&R, nevan and vergil. Everything else, even the things I like like leviathan's heart, are painfully annoying. I don't think much of 5's bosses, and I'd put 1 higher if it wasn't for camera angles. 2's bosses are a joke. 4's bosses are the ones I have more fun with, except sanctus. I'm probably super biased on this one, but 4 is it for me.

I'd add a music department too but I enjoy all the games' tracks on some regard. I'd maybe put 1 as the best for being the most iconic (or maybe it's just nostalgia).

There you have it, all my shit taste. Now do with it as you please.

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>boss design
>wow tier beast
>slurm queen 2.0
>big head (not the mask)
>shitty saviour parody
Mcfucking kill yourself

>Bosses
4>5=3>1>2

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Why is this allowed?

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Almost everything objectively correct.

He's right though. I would say 5 > 3 however.

NOOOOOO
THE FURIES CAN'T KEEP WINNING BROS

Credo and Danye are the only good boss's in 4

From a Nero or Dante persepective?

Looking back on it I really don't know how I should have written that other than putting 4 on top. I like a handful of bosses from all games, but I have the impression 4's are the ones that click the best with me. If 1's camera angles were more forgiving I would have put 1 on top because nightmare and NA are among my favs. But I also love stuff that I know is unredeemable garbage, like leviathan's heart or Bolverk. Don't know what else to say, I'm very biased when it comes to bosses.

You know I never actually gave Trish and Lady a fair shot in 4SE. How are they?

Just because 90% of the world has shit taste doesn't mean they're right retard.
Hell I didn't even say they were bad, just fairly mediocre entries which they are deal with it.
They're not just not as great as people make them out to be. (I lend more credit to DMC3 however).

Cool to play with, but they still feel like reduced versions of Dante

Trish being swordmaster and Lady gunslinger. It's still possible to make some crazy combos. And Trish bareknuckle is great and fun to play

Ladies and gentlemen I give you Trish

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Why does the game tease Vergil's redemption by having V go on how fucked his mad quest for power was and that he sees the error of his ways, only for restored Vergil not to act any different, show no remorse for his actions and only care about killing Dante?
And even when Nero is revealed for his son, he isn't taken aback by what he did and only cares about beating Dante by proxy, and reluctantly agrees not to murder Dante when he loses as a deal.

I can mostly agree with.
>bosses
I also liked Greyon in 3, but 4 had overall pretty good ones, and none of them were one tick ponies like dopplegagner, gigapede, or leviathan.

>enemies
Chimeras were very widespread screwing up otherwise good enemies. While bad enemies of 3 were sporadic

>that face
Give back mommy dmc 4 Trish

TRASH

TRRAAAASH!

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I literally played DMC2 for the first time yesterday, and it gave me a headache at how shit it was, the absolute shit AI, awful enemies, even worse boss battles, lots of empty areas with nothing to do but walk, the fact that there is no variety in weapons, not real combos, just fucking stand at a place and shoot at things at things that aren't on the screen till their health bar goes down, not that it would take long since the guns are ridiculously strong.

You know he is baiting... no?

yes
"I'm not letting you die!" is the perfect example

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It takes such an absurdly long time to kill Proto Angelos on DMD

>Fighting a DT'd Proto as Nero
>Getting tired of just simple air strings into Snatch while Punchline is active with occasional busters
>Hard Way at him
>He swipes and takes a dozen pips of life off of me during my super armor
If the combo I did after didn't kill him I would've been scared as fuck.

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that boy aint right...

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DMC:Devil may cry is the best in the series, but noone believes me

That's the kind of shit that makes me stand back and charge shot in pure fear

DMC3 and RE4 are my favorite games, but I'll still say DMC5 and REmake are objectively better.

What exactly do you want? It would be out of character for Vergil to suddenly snap and become completely remorseful and super nice towards Dante and Nero. Pretty much everything you said is wrong anyways
>Not act any different
Compared to how he acts in 3? He does
>Contemplating on how he and Dante's life might be different if their positions were switched
>"Thank you Nero"
>Actually agrees on fighting Nero and doesn't immediately tell him to fuck off
>After Nero beats him he almost accepts he did ("Interesting) ("I won't lose next time") compared to how he was in DMC3
>When Nero spergs out at him during the fight (IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ME) he goes "Nero..."
>Agrees on putting aside their differences so they can cut down the Qliphoth
>Gives Nero a book from his childhood that was extremely important to him
>after he and Dante are in Hell together he almost seems more laid back
Overall his core personality still feels like classic Vergil but something about him still feels different. The very end of 5 feels like they were expanding more on the side of Vergil that would occasionally indulge in Dante's BS and even joke around a bit himself.

Yeah but I just really wanted to shine about DMC2. There are people who actually say that DmC is worse than 2 and I can now say with absolute certainty that they're insane.

They're both worse, one is absolutely trash. The other is a wannabe Uncharted.

The real score was already settled

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I think DmC is definitely overall a better game than 2, but I dislike DmC more. DMC2 is just fucking boring to me

Guys, I didn't think it was possible to love a video game character but.....why did Capcom do this to me. OBSESSED with this man. Suck a dick Vergil for having such a hot ass son, shit.

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If you didn't also love his 4 version you don't deserve to obsess over his 5 version.
Besides he's for Kyrie only.

1, with Reuben as Dante, fixed retconned dialogue and Lady secret cutscene in the epilogue

Based

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4 Nero > 5 Nero

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Ugh, get this twink fag out of here.

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Meh I don't find anime looking guys attractive kek, it speaks volumes that his rule34 grew exponentially after redegisn.
>for kyrie only
kek he thinks having a girlfriend is gonna stop us drawfags

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I prefer his 4 Bringer design and hope he can one day use the Stand with his transformation DT.

Think they just changed the hair up so people would complain less about him resembling Dante. (SHOCKING that a man resembles the twin brother of his father!)

I see she has become an avid follower of Dante's pizza diet.

They changed the hair up because it's more fitting for his character. He's an unga. Who body slams demons, he shouldn't look like a pretty boy.

>m16 dmd
>alright i was stylin hard on everything ill get to S even if i revive with orbs a bunch
>get fucked by doggo at the end, had to revive 3 times with orbs
>get your style rank halved
>C
okay i deserved it but ill get my rematch
bit later

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5Bringer >>>>>>>>> 4Bringer

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its honestly crazy how they took subhuman from me hating it to me screaming along to it in my car everyday. the game edit is so fucking good I feel bad for doubting them

I FEEL THE DEVIL IN MEEEEEEE

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More importantly what was the most kino moment of dmc5?

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While his fighting style is Unga he not purely braindead like the memes exaggerate.
Made Blue Rose with an artistic engraving and gave it a name based on poetry.
He rocked the wrestler moves with the old hair in 4 just fine.
And meh, I find the hair okay either way, just kind of wish there was an alt costume or something (beyond Mods) to make him look more like his 4 self.
Like how Dante can sometimes get costumes to look like his 1 self.

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Kinge

>It's past your bedtime
>HE'S YOUR FATHER
>FUCK YOU
>STOP THE CAR
>Devils cry
>Vergil splitting himself in two
>Nero cutting Urizen's hand how Vergil cut Dante's
The whole game is kino

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now show the face

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>the game edit is so fucking good I feel bad for doubting them
which version you talking about bro? Cause there was a game edit of the original version which was unironically hype. But from the first part I'm guessing you're talking about Michael Barr's version. I dunno, the "I FEEL THE DEVIL IN MEEEE" part was like the only good vocal part of the original, and I felt like it sounded kind of weak in the new one. But I just realized that I've barely listened to the new Subhuman outside of gameplay, so maybe I'll give another listen. That ominous chanting part of the new version is cool though

I'm talking about the one on the soundtrack that is subhuman (game edit) the other one is just subhuman

Trish is the ultinate butterface in this game -Amazing body
-Nice tight tummy
>legs/ass are great in those pants
>hips
-nice tiddy, not as huge as they were in 4 but still good
and then there's her face

Interesting how Lady was shit in 4 while Trish being in her peak and now in 5 is the complete opposite

>ambientation

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DMC3 and RESI4 are anything but mediocre you contrarian piece of shit.

>cant switch devil breakers on the fly

WHOS IDEA WAS THIS? YOU FUCKED UP.

and NO TITS
fuck off shill

Long hair Nero is now cursed Nero and that's final! It also looks out of place in the new engine with photorealistic faces. There is a reason even Dante got a hair redesign. The anime cuts look like silly wigs on this engine.

That's because they weren't made in the engine?
Or do you mean the transplants from the other characters.
Figure they'd just need some minor work or editing.

>Vergil gets his ass kicked by his own son
>"I can still fight"

>Vergil gets too old for real teeth
>"I can still bite"

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Trish tits are big as fuck in 5 wtf
Did you ever saw real life tits?

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They'd still look like shit, DMC no longer has the anime aesthetic it had in those games, that anime hair was part of the aesthetic, it looks ridiculous on this engine.

>90% of the world has shit taste
>thinks he isn't part of that 90%
what a fucking edgy mongoloid

>I am so le special and different xD

>shill
user you don't even know what that word means. Also are you blind

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>The very end of 5 feels like they were expanding more on the side of Vergil that would occasionally indulge in Dante's BS and even joke around a bit himself.
Another point: Vergil laughs at Nero after he starts giving his "I won't let you kill each other" speech, which is a lot like how he laughs at Dante at the end of 3.

show the face

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Yeah I know what her face looks like, but how does that make me a shill? I literally said in my original post that she's a butterface in 5

More importantly, if dmc1 got a remake should it be like REmake 1 or 2?

I'm not the faggot calling you a shill, i actually like Eva MILF look and think ingame Trish looks better than Cutscene Trish

DMC5 gameplay with DMC1 story/place

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Who would you bang if you were Dante? Trish, Lady or both?

Lady, Trish is a exact fucking clone of his mother

At least he chews with his mouth shut.

Nevan

While DMC1 had enough ranged weapons, should a few melee weapons be added?
Just having a few swords and Ifrit isn't enough vairety.

Maybe add Devil Arms based off of defeated bosses?
Even if it's redundant I wouldn't even mind another sword added in the form of Nelo Angelo's Greatsword after Vergil is Banished/dissapears.

Man of taste

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Better idea. Make force edge, sparda and alastor have different movesets.

Nah, new bosses or weapons wouldn't be fit for a DMC1 remake and would make purists mad. Instead give more moves to Force Edge/Alastor/Ifrit.

Eva looks better than Trish in her cutscene but that could also be because of lighting and whatnot, her hair is also better than Trish's. Eva still looks slightly worse in the model viewer, but still better than Trish. And yeah I agree with her looking better ingame, it's like being lower quality makes her cuter. I wonder if Capcom would ever end up fixing her face if a DLC came out or something, sort of like what happened with Chun Li and some other characters in MvCI. Though I kind of doubt it since I don't really see many people complaining about Trish's face outside of Yea Forumsand I'm pretty sure everyone was flipping their shit with MvC.

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>I wonder if Capcom would ever end up fixing her face if a DLC came out or something
Very unlikely, it's bad but it's not Chun Li bad. I wonder what went wrong about her face, did Capcom got catfished with her facemodel? Everyone else is pretty as fuck

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I could see them possibly being changed up moveset wise.
All of them getting the King Cerberus treatment but would still be unsure how they'd change things up.

I'd think Force Edge and Sparda would get locked with Dante's 5 Rebellion Moveset (with Overdrive added back I guess) and Alastor could get some expansion but at the core I think they'd all still play very similarly.

If they ever bothered with it I could see some potential, I'd just be rather unsure to whether they'd pull it off.

Since there were multiple locations one cold find Nightmare-Beta I would enjoy a Double Kalina Ann Esque rework where you can find both the Beta and Gamma model and dual wield them.

Sparda is unlocked pretty late, but if they did what 5 did and had major unlocks for New Game Plus, I could see a Balrog or King Cerberus esque gimmick given to it so it'd be one weapon with multiple forms to switch between that would change it's moveset.

I think they just synched up Sparda, Rebellion and DSD's moveset in 5 to stick with tradition and because the first playthrough has you use the first two very briefly so maybe they'd break tradition and change things up.

Sparda having not-cosmetic individual forms would be nice.

I don't like Scythes and feel like having the forms be a manual instead of passive change would miss the weapons original point but I think they could make something fun and creative out of it.

Really they can probably go further add another form like an Axe mode as a bonus if we're talking just about dreams.

Would be neat to see what they could make out of a dedicated polearm form.

I think Sparda has more forms besides Scythe one. youtube.com/watch?v=EcPs5DYwW8I

I know it has 3 modes.
BIg Sword, Scythe and Lance.
Just didn't like the idea of the dedicated scythe form as I often just see them swung around like swords or really weird axes in fiction anyways.

the flushed face and air puffs make me feel very different from what this image is probably supposed to

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Vergil

I wish the story in 5 wasn't such fucking reddit cringe cancer. 4 had a fucking better story, and it's an unfinished game. For me, Vergil died in 3.

what the fuck you talking about

>did Capcom got catfished with her facemodel? Everyone else is pretty as fuck
I dunno, I think that was the main theory when people first saw who her face model was, but I don't think it's necessarily true since the model still looks better in that pic of them doing the scanning on her. There are obvious similarities between their faces (chin/jaw, nose) so I'm not one of those people who thinks she and the model look nothing alike, maybe they just altered her face from the model too much? Or maybe it was an effect of the mocap, maybe whoever was her mocap actor's face just didn't mesh well with the model. I might be wrong, but in pic related her face looks slightly different than it does in the final game, and I think it might have been posed without mocap. Or maybe it's just an earlier model that they altered later?

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>I wish the story in 5 wasn't such fucking [buzzword] [buzzword] [buzzword]
Use your own words. Describe why you don't like it.

why do you even bother asking, user

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>>get fucked by doggo at the end, had to revive 3 times with orbs
If it's that difficult, you may as well just stylishly playthrough the entire level and rack up at least 5500 points (though 5800 - 6300 seems very doable for M16), and thrive off the No Continues bonus for the minimal 6000. You can cheese Cerberus with Dr. Faust. If you choose so, the fight is *literally*

>Hold Square
>Dodge King Cerberus' first and subsequent attacks
>Gain distance
>Hold Square some more (DT for more oomph)
>King Cerberus starts mode changing to lightning
>Immediately swap to Gunslinger if not already
>Charge Lvl 3 Red Hot Night while he's shifting to Lightning mode
>Almost dead
>Hold Square for approximately 5 more seconds
You win.

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bait

>Gameplay
>4 over 3
Lmao if you're a fag who hates cuhrazee
The only good part of DMC 4's gameplay it's the Dante part of it

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SSSUGAR
GET READY

>The only good part of DMC 4's gameplay it's the Dante part of it
i agreed with you until i read this. 4Dante is fucking insufferable.

I think the biggest problems with her is the nose-mouth-chin part. The model has the nose too but she also have a more juicy lip then Trish.

Legal Patty

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4 is literally the least fun character in 4SE
>Does shit damage unless you abuse distortion
>Most advanced combos boil down to guardflying, Pandora minigun, and TRICKSWORDTRICKSWORD Aerial Rave loops with DRI finishers and the occasional neat Lucifer or Dark Slayer setup
>Styles made too weak to compensate for Switching, especially the defensive ones
>Dreadnaught, Dante's best DT design ever, wasted on a worthless mechanic
>Smallest arsenal of weapons by sheer numbers in the series, tied with 2 (at least 1 has more than 3 guns and a good set of gauntlets)
Nero is incomplete but the enemies are built for him, Vergil is basically a sidegrade from 3 but that means he's great, Lady is a fun novelty, and Trish is the most fun of the five by a mile.

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Yeah, I noticed that too. Trish's lips are like a thin straight line in 5 but her model's are nice. Also I guess it could be edited, but from a lot of pictures I've seen of the model, her nose isn't as hooked/downturned as Trish's is? Like don't get me wrong it isn't a perfect small button nose either, but it doesn't look exactly the same as Trish. Looks a bit more straight

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>it doesn't look exactly the same as Trish. Looks a bit more straight
Judging by that picture, not only is more straight, but smaller too

>YOU CAN'T KILL YOUR OWN FATHER!!!
Why the fuck not, Trish? why the fuck not. Dante can kill his brother but I can't kill my daddy who almost killed me, fuck off with that shit.

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>Gameplay
5 > 4 > 3 > DmC > 1

Story
3 > 5 > 1 > DmC > 4

Stage Design
3 > 1 > DmC > 4 > 5

Visuals and art direction
4 > 1 > DmC > 5 > 3

>4 > 1 > DmC > 5 > 3

You're a JRPG fan, aren't you?

>putting DmC in the rank
>Visuals and art direction
>4 > 1 > DmC > 5 > 3

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Gameplay
5>4>3>1
Story
3>5>1>4>2
Level Design
1>3>who cares
Music
1>3>5>4
General
5>=3>4>1

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She also kind of contributed in sealing away her own dad considering Mundus made her.

DmC that high for art direction, collapsed buildings in a open atmoshere, so artistic. There was literally a dubstep nightclub level kek.

>Visuals and art direction
>4 > 1 > DmC > 5 > 3

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>Trish is a exact fucking clone of his mother
Dante, much like his creator Kamiya, is a mommyfag. Canonically cries for mommy in his sleep when in bed with women. Got called out by Patty for having an Oedipus Complex and instead of denying it, just tells everyone to stop laughing at him.

I fail to see the problem here.

compared to 5 and 3's dull forgettable levels yeah. I wasn't a fan of DmC but atleast the levels were somewhat memorable compared to those two. The only reason I replay 3 and 5 is because the combat is so good.

>DmC's art direction above anything
it's ugly as shit
Pretty sure the DMC Trinity of Fates book specifically says Dante doesn't have an Oedipus complex though.

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I'm not talking about levels, i'm talking about Visuals and art direction. DmC Visuals and art direction was absolute shit and everyone had disproportionate bodies in 4

>Story Whatever > whatever
Brainlet faggot nigger. 3 was Kino tier. 5 is a tumblr fanfic to revive Vergil and portray him as dindu nuffin

DMC5 ruined Vergil and made me hate him and all the fanservice shit surrounding the character thanks to Itsuno caving in. V and Urizen was a massive mistake.

They literally were not lol. Infact much of them blended together. Collapsed buldings, floating obstacles you must pull or grapple to, the game. and that level where you defeated the succubus, one of the worst designed levels in DMC history, ugly at that. That whole game was badly designed. The fact that fucking grappling took up over 60% of missions at times was unforgivable.

Explain further.

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4 had memorable locations and vivid colors. From the European town, the village burning from berial, snowy mountain and castle, the order HQ. DmC colors popped out too much but atleast there was an attempt at some artistic design with Limbo being ripped apart. dmc5 visuals are godawful, the characters look ok but the levels and worlds are so visually dull after mission 7. dmc3 is even worse just bland brown corridors again and again except for certain boss fights like Nevan and Ceberus.

stay mad vujo

It's kind of hard to forget 4's locations after going through them twice.

1 > 3 > 5 > 4 = 2

5 isn't even a finished game

stop spamming guns

like why does everyone who plays 2 immediately resort to spamming guns? this is a series about being stylish and you literally do the least stylish thing possible

guess what, you can also beat bosses in 4 piss-easy but using DRI, but it's not fucking stylish and makes the game too easy. you can beat bosses in 5 by spamming hat meteors at them, but it's not fucking stylish and makes the game too easy. yet when 2 has something that isn't stylish and makes the game too easy people spam it to high heaven

How the fuck isn't 5 finished you braindead faggot?

5 > 4 > 1 > 3 > DmC > 2

>I think they just synched up Sparda, Rebellion and DSD's moveset in 5 to stick with tradition
I think it was so DSD was just a straight upgrade of both and you didn't lose any moves by obtaining it, so I can see them doing the same thing with FE/Sparda.

>It's kind of hard to forget 4's locations after going through them twice.
same with 1. But even with reused locations 3's levels were still bland and forgettable. I'll admit atleast 3 had the decency of switching up how you went through the locations but the visuals were so dull it didnt leave an impact like 4 and 1's.

It says we shouldn't immediately think he has a mommy complex since he doesn't depend on Trish as a maternal figure. Then in the very next sentence, it says he projects his longing for his mother onto Trish.

It literally contradicts itself.

>Alastor
>Ifrit
>Force Edge/DSS
>Yamato
There's your weapon line-up.

Are you fucking kidding me? It's so fucking obvious. You're telling me you didn't notice the MASSIVE dropoff in quality after Cavalier Angelo? All the fucking 1-boss missions? Fighting the exact same Urizen fight like 4 times? The total lack of a boss rush? The fact that all the Qlipoth areas look the fucking same?

5 is missing literally like 25% of its content. If you collapse everything down, it has a similar number of actual "missions" to fucking 4. Yeah, 5 does a lot right, and the missions are overall WAY better than 4's, and it hides the missing pieces really well, but let's not fool ourselves. If you play through the first 10 missions and then play through the last 10 missions, I don't see how you could fail to notice the huge fucking difference.

>All the fucking 1-boss missions?
Just Urizen 3 and a Vergil fight for each of Nero and Dante. DMC3 had more or less the same endgame.

>Fighting the exact same Urizen fight like 4 times?
Except you only fight him once more after Cavaliere. You also only fight it once in each form with Dante and Nero.

>The total lack of a boss rush?
V has it.

>The fact that all the Qlipoth areas look the fucking same?
They don't. There's four Qliphoth areas and they're all structured differently with unique things going on in them.

Not that user, but I have a suspicion that, while the game was finished and not necessarily rushed, there had to be some form heavy change at some point during the late development. It's all conjecture on my part, but I feel like apple urizen was too similar to balrog not to be a reused model.

I heard from some user days ago that 5's official artbook is coming on the 26th, so I'm waiting to judge from that. You can normally tell how rushed or how much of a development hell these games had by taking a look at the draft and unused section of their artbooks (1 had a lot of enemy drafts because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing when passing from zombies to devils, while 4 had a lot of unused designs because they had to scrap a lot of the game).

3 feels like the best still to me

>I feel like apple urizen was too similar to balrog not to be a reused model.
The one similarity between them is the eyes. Urizen doesn't even have horns which is one of Balrog's most distinctive features.

I think the word your looking for is "rushed" not "unfinished". Or maybe "creatively bankrupt" for the qliphoth stages.

DMC1 and 3 are the only "finished" games
2, 4 and 5 were either rushed, incomplete or both

I can't wait for the DLC missions to be even more Qliphoth stages.

>Just Urizen 3 and a Vergil fight for each of Nero and Dante. DMC3 had more or less the same endgame
Not him but Gilgamesh too
But i fail too see something wrong with Boss only missions

Yeah, but Gilgamesh isn't after Cavaliere.

Let's settle this once and for all.

Who is the better brother? The red devil of crazy parties and free pizzas OR The blue devil of judgment nuts and motivation?

FUCK FORGOT MY IMAGE

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Dante has the best personality
Vergil has the best hair
Dante has the best guns
Vergil has the best sword

Dante is for 1NS. Vergil is for marriage.

>THAT BULGE

Kaneko is truly a genius. I hope he gets out of the flower gardens at some point.

Both

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>DMC3 had more or less the same endgame.
You're joking, right?

>DMC3
12: Infinite DT + Geryon, full mission
13: Full mission with puzzles and Vergil 2
14: Climbing the tower, full mission
15: Exploring the top of the tower, full mission
16: Full mission + Lady fight
17: Full mission + Doppelganger
18: Chessboard + Boss rush
19: Half-mission + Arkham
20: Vergil 3

6.5 "full mission" levels, 6 bosses, a full boss rush. Admittedly 14-17 reuse a fair number of areas.

>DMC5
12: Full mission + Urizen 3
13: Half-mission only used to justify online
14: V's half boss-rush
15: Full mission + Malphas
16: Full mission + Cerberus
17: Urizen 4
18: Full mission + trio
19: Vergil
20: Vergil

4.5 "full mission" levels, 7 bosses (of which one has been fought before, and one is fought twice), and half a boss rush. A good chunk of the endgame is just fucking missing.

>V has it.
That isn't a boss rush. A boss rush is every boss (even if in 3 you only needed to do that for an orb). Don't get me wrong, I like that mission, it's one of my favourites, but it is NOT a boss rush.

I would fight Urizen 5 more times over the absolute shit bosses of 3.

*DMC5 reaction image* n-no you're wrong

Vergil, because well...

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>stand on centipede back, slash, wait till he comes back, do the same thing
>dodge arkham bubbles, mash, dodge arkham bubbles again, mash.
I'm replaying DMC3 right now and I can't believe how on rails all the bosses are lmao even Cerberus is so limited compared to his version in 5. How anyone can think DMC3's bosses are good are beyond me.

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Pure nostalgia, it's a hell of a drug.

Vergil's trilogy is still amazing, but most fights are mediocre at best. Discounting Vergil, the only good ones are Cerberus (good first real boss, even if 5's is more involved), A&R (who are simple but with a good gimmick and solid difficulty), and Beowulf (fully realized phases even if one is just kicking towers at you). Nevan, Geryon, and Lady are okay but can get monotonous. The rest are boring or just plain shit.

They're not the worst overall lineup of bosses in the series, and even Arkham relinquished his "Worst Boss" title to Jubileus, but they're mediocre as a whole.

I found 5 bosses to be complete shit and unmemorable, even the vergil fight was weak as fuck compared to 3.

>12: Infinite DT + Geryon, full mission
It's literally going back the same way you came but with your health ticking down until you get to Geryon. You also have a Jester fight before that to pad it even more.

>14: Climbing the tower, full mission
>15: Exploring the top of the tower, full mission
>16: Full mission + Lady fight
All of these are assests reused in the most boring way possible, and 15 and 16 are so short they could easily have been only one mission.

Also half-way though the game isn't the endgame.

>it is NOT a boss rush.
It's a better version of just having you fight the same bosses again.

TREE BAD
TOWER GOOD

Street levels are fucking great, tree levels are boring i agree. blue tree levels are pretty though

Well I mean can you tell me WHEN exactly do the awesome boss fights show up? because so far they have been more annoying and formulaic than fun. And I feel like DMC3fags have been drastically overrating the rest of the fights based on Vergil. Because thus far i'm not seeing anything that places DMC3 bosses above even 4 let alone 5 right now.

Play the game first and THEN try to bait people with your shitposts

>no it was 5's bosses that were shit actually

riveting

Imagine defending shit like 3 Urizen fights
Kill yourself

literally the other way around
why would he want to leave? the flower gardens are bliss user, join him

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Pretty accurate, but we shall see if 5 can surpass 3 after it get's a Special Edition.

I bought the entire DMC collection faget. I needed to see things for myself beyond the fanboyism. And i'm still waiting for these great boss battles to show up lol.

>Newfag who started playing DMC 2 months ago trying to tell people what a good DMC game should be like
Unironically kill yourself tranny faggot

I don't need to have played DMC3 for 5 + years to know these boss battles are NOTHING of what dmc3fags hyped them up to be lmao. Legit would rather fight the repeat trolls in GOW4 than this shit right now. Even that was preferable to fucking a roller coaster centipede, really!?!?

>3 urizen bad
>3 vergil good

even then urizen is way different in each phase than vergil is.
If you want to hold on to your bootleg legend of zelda dungeoneering and DMC 5 story but edgy then be my guest but don't embarrass yourself by implying 3 is better than 5 in any aspect of gameplay

If you're going to be like that then at least get it right and say he died in 1.

urizen bad
vergil good
Yes, are you retarded or something?

I was surprised that Vergil was even weaker than urizen. That was fucking stupid

He was united with his emo side, thus gayer

>arguing over which turd is the least shitty

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still better than ff15, also
>going red orb bankrupt
>for a b rank

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Yeah, Vergil in 5 is a really disappointing fight. It LOOKS amazing, but he's really slow, not that aggressive, and takes way too much damage. The Urizen fight just before him is way more fast-paced and difficult.

The main problem with doing this is that the Style meter doesn't drop. It should start falling pretty fast after more than 2 seconds of sustained Faust fire with a slow refresh rate.

>not that aggressive
He pretty much never stops attacking once he's on DT. With DG out Vergil can beat super Dante's DT regen and bruteforce an otherwise invincible RG.

In 3 Vergil stopped after every combo so you could hit him.

2
We need that shit game fixed, 1 is completely playable

nigger did you even played it pass demon hunter difficulty?

Yeah, he's great on DT (and after it, for whatever reason), but you can easily drop him to like half of his health before he gets there.

Yeah, dude. Busters never stop being OP as fuck.

So by DMC6 Dante would be like 55. So how long before Capcom retcons and say that the spardas are immortal.

Is this a DMC2 reference?

>Implying Dante will be in 6 on release
This is a Nero and Vergil franchise from now on, pizza boy.

Dunno they might pull a Metal Gear and have a game with Nero going through a Rising episode.
Or I guess that Sparda prequel other people seem to want.

Lady makes me feel like being a lesbo, she cute

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are we gonna corrupt this thread with the period blood jokes too or is that finally over

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Hey guys did you know?

Vergil's first phase is just a warm up, he gets back all that health from DT regen.

now this is what i call bait

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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I'm feeling they will retcon everyone ages in the artbook

You wish lmao

Lady is a cute pure virgin

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It would be better to stop the bleeding, now.

Does Nico shave her cunt?

How is 3 greater than 5 if you don't have it at the top anywhere.

>ambientation
stay literate, Yea Forums, or you might end up a DMC fan

>most porn is in human form
>devil trigger demons are way hotter/ no lewds
suffering

for me its:
3=5>1>=4>powergap>DmC>2
If they add vergil in 5 it will be the best in the series no contest

periods hurt like fire

Judging by the porn, yes

if your period burns I'd suggest seeing a doctor

it twas a meme devilboy

Do you know where we could buy it? I'm french so I don't know if it would be a struggle to get it here.

I was trying to go with the period trigger song, I'm not saying my periods burn.

Complete artbook is coming out this or next week, i would advise you to buy that one instead. Collectors edition don't have Vergil and a shitload of other arts the artbook will have

3 doesn't have nero or bustering or best girl Nico which is why it's automatically below 5

>it's only the rain
>devil's never cry
why has 3 been the only one to tell a compelling story?

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>vergil
>ever in the main game

Complete artbook, noted. But where to buy it ? Sorry for the trouble.

titty booby

dmc3 is the only one I love.
It makes a girl go wild.

Nico did it better

They're are scans online it's not worth buying as the collectors artbook isn't that great.

I want Nico to bully me

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>dogs go wan wan xD
No, she didn't

>best girl
>Nico
>some red neck hillbilly from Alabama
jesus

Period orgasms are awesome.

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important question:
I just beat the game and got devil bringer back
Is this game like dmc4 where you can buster a bunch of attacks for massive damage and cool animations?

>FE/DSS
>Alastor (new moveset)
>Ifrit
>Yamato (Vergil moveset)/Yamato+FE

>E&I/L&O
>Coyote-A (starting weapon)
>Grenade Launcher
>Nightmare Beta/Gamma/Double Nightmare

>Yamato is unlocked by playing Gilver side missions
>Gilver uses Yamato+Shotgun
>L&O is unlocked along Sparda costume
>You can't have FE and DSS at the same time
Here's you DMC1 remake.

STOP
ENOUGH

So the models were scanned completly, not just the face?
Lady model has some cute titties

No problem friend. I guess amazon, ebay or capcom store. I'm not really sure because it's not out yet kek. Surely when it comes out someone will post a link

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it's only in japanese
so yesasia or amazon jp
yesasia.com/us/search/devil-may-cry-5/0-0-0-q.devil may cry 5_bpt.48-en/list.html

Yes. DB also has a new ability if you press it while another animation is happening.

Nico's was adorable, cute, and a lighthearted end to a dramatic ordeal as well as being a playful moment with her spiritual brother, Lady's was anime bullshit, and I will have none of it.

I was talking about the complete one that has not been released yet, but thanks for the advice.

They were
And Lady facemodel does have nice titties

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Should enemies stay the same or be faster?

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>massive damage
Buster arm is better for damage than Bringer

>Alastor (new moveset)
It's worth it.

I assume so considering Vergils got some freckles or something on his hands

>Nico
>Adorable and cute

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I think a 1SE that lets you freeswitch weapons/guns, has remixed encounters with multiple enemy types (which you can revert in Options for nostalgia/purity's sake), gives you playable Trish (like her 2 self) and Nelo Angelo (like Corrupt Vergil's DT), and adds its own Bloody Palce would be better.

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I will wait for the translated one. I hope I will not struggle to get my hands on it. Thanks a lot , anons !

cringe

WHERE ? I WANT TO SEE THAT !!!!

>pictured: lady singing karaoke at girls night and mocking the guys for being obsessed with "pulling their devil trigger"

AND SUDDENLY YOU'RE IN LOOOOVE

nico is a tough girl and seeing her work and sweat is kinda hawt

where is this from

no problem baguette, godspeed

There's no plans for english release yet unfortunately. I'd would buy it pretty quick if there were.

DMC3 is not part of this shit franchise.

>nico
>not cute af

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the artbook is coming in english too i think, only before the nightmare is jap exclusive

This has to be the most 3oomer statement ever typed.

>mole between tits
Cute

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just between you and me

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nice bait

1 is just prototype RE4
2 is molten shit glued together
3 is a miracle godsend
4 is a half-baked turd
5 is a half-assed sequel

>Alastor (new moveset)
Granted there's still swordmaster to get creative, but what can you do with alastor's regular moveset other than let it remain the same as FE's/Rebellion's? it's one thing to have dual swords like A&R in which case you can make up different moves (jet stream instead of stinger, cross wind instead of helm breaker), but at the end of the day they're still overall the same functionality; jet stream is still a form of stinger, just slower (and cooler), whirlwind is still high time, etc.

What can alastor's FW and BW be other than stinger and high time respectively? it's way too similar in shape and size to FE and rebellion and it's not wielded completely different unlike yamato. A stinger with electric FX is still a stinger.

Also what could alastor's swormaster moveset be? I assume it'd have an obligatory "summon lightning" attack, but I'm lost on everything else.

You people who zoom in to see these details are autistic, just wanted to let you know.

Very

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I want a demon who resembles this

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DMC3 is dethroned, get over it

to be fair someone posted his hand texture the other day and I noticed it then
nothing wrong with appreciating the little details

t. zoomer

Ur reason

>super costume
>90 thousand orbs wasted

not him but the only thing 3 has better 5 is the story

>on Yea Forums
>not autistic
you're in the wrong place

a lady urizen would be epic

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3 is still mechanically better with the styleswitch mod.
5 doesn't even have free ride.

...

how do you even read that? "throomer"? is it still "boomer"?

>5 is a half-assed sequel
I wouldn't say half-assed, I feel it's more of a case of them wanting to make something for the fans but not really knowing what the fans wanted (or at the very least, making something for a specific kind of fans, vergil fans, which I'm personally not one of). I mean sure a lot of people definitely creamed their pants over vergil returning and whatnot, but it wasn't my thing. Still, they really tried their best with enemies/weapons /gameplay/QoL so saying half-assed doesn't make it justice at all.

Does it have any of Dante's new skills? sdt? the breakers? oh no? then it's inferior.

What am I asking about in the first place?

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nero is /ourcuntboy/

what

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And the story isn't even THAT great by the standards of most other games, so what you have is a game with an ok story and mostly shit bosses. 5 is superior.

Does 5 have DTE or wallrunnning?
Can dante even stop time of Throw his sword?
I didn't think so. Keep seething zoomerfag.

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You could just not have SM and give Alastor some of the moves like prop shredder and aerial rave. You can get pretty creative with DSS since it's a saber and has a scythe mode, you could give it more spinny moves like RQ. You also give Alastor some of Nevan's or Cerb's lightning moves, or moves based on VJ Alastor like his summoned swords. Also air stinger to mimmick air raid.

It all comes down to how much you're willing to change and expand. Vergil's version of FE is prettt different even without Yamato.

>If you have to ask it's too late

>Does 5 have DTE or wallrunnning?
It has DTE and wallkicking
>Can dante even stop time of Throw his sword?
Nero can stop time and Dante can throw his sword

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>Nero can
We're talking about Dante here.
Nero has always been shit and no matter how much Itsuno pushes his dumb OC, it will never be as cool as based Dante.

>styleswitch mod
This is bait.

>Can dante throw his sword
yes, moron. Sword pierce is literally just round trip.

Nero... That does it, I'm washing your mouth with soup.

>wall running
My god what ever shall we do without wall running. Can you fly on a fucking rocket in 3? no. Can you fucking explode the goddamn world with SDT? no.
>can dante stop time
Nero can

>DMC6 comes around
>new high tier enemy called amazon
>mundus, in his neverending autistic hobby of making lizard henchmen, refined the design til getting a reptilian female 2.3 metres tall and bulky as fuck
>instead of claw-shooting like blade or hyperspace travel like fury, it just a very fucking strong lizard that regenerates really fast
>can tear you a new asshole if you look at her wrong
>they come at you in groups of 2 to 5
I was very sad DMC3 never gave us a succubus lesser demon based on this prototype nevan design, I hope 6 doesn't fail me.

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No it's not you retard

That's probably meant to balance out the orb use. You're sacrificing something so you should gain something as well.

>soup
yum

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Further proof that hardcore dmc3 seethers are just new character haters. As if it wasn't obvious.

ok retard
nobody forcing you to like 5
go somewhere else then

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>Can you fly on a fucking rocket in 3? no
Neither can Dante in 5
>Nero can
Exactly, half of this game was wasted on that shitty character for braindead newfags who couldn't git gud with Dante.

dude you're amazing, thank you.
someone should draw one

that's better than vergil washing nero's mouth with soap

nu-gow honestly has quite a lot of combat depth for a western action game. far more than it's predecessors. probably a little bit more than DmC.

Better than DMC3 dante
>a talking mutt wow should be in a dog show you'd get first place
His dialogue in 3 was some of the worst in this franchise.
>couldn't git gud with dante
Implying he's hard, literally has a pay2win ability.

dammit I meant...

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>Nerofag talking about cringe dialogue
>When he gets his DT from a fucking phone call
Keep seething

Gamefags is that way faget

>unironically thinking getting a DT from stabbing oneself isn't the edgiest most cringe shit ever.

What the fuck is ambientation?
Gameplay 5 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 2
Story 3 > 5 > 1 > 2 = 4
Level design 3 = 1 > 5 > 2 = 4
Subjective Overall Ranking 5 = 3 > 4 = 1 > 2

>You could just not have SM
Eh fair enough. I guess I'm just spoiled by the possibilities swordmaster opens, but a 1 remake that stays loyal to the lack of styles could still be made and still be interesting if they found a compromise in input assignment.

You can add aerial rave and helm breaker quite easily into a standard moveset if you make AR be attack button (air) and HB be lock-on + attack button + forward (air), much like nero's split. I'd also love if 3's sword pierce came back as alastor's hold and release move instead of round trip since I discovered the sword flies from an enemy to the next after they die (would make alastor look more like the living sword that it supposedly is), but I digress.

>Implying it's not metal as fuck

that's not edgy... it's sweet

No, it's Donte.

You're Donte

Fuck you

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Huh, DMC5 in North America did worse than DMC4 in the first month.
This is it bros. We're not getting another DMC for another 10 years. Maybe never.
At least the franchise ends on a high note

To be Donte you have to cut and or stab yourself. Maybe tameem didn't stray as far as we thought.

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Wait how are you style switching in 3? Did I really make it through the entire game without realizing you could switch on the fly? I might be legitimately retarded guys.

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What if you combined Alastor and Lucifer and made Alastor stick tiny versions of itself that explode into lightning? Or made its SM into something like sword formations?

I get the whole point of the ending was to mirror DMC3's ending in a pleasant tone, but I feel like it could've been executed way better than just Nero getting a phone call that suddenly motivates him. It was getting really interesting up until Nero just teleports there.

It also got outsold by Division 2, Sekiro and MLB the show in the month of march.
Goddamn I know it's not a casual friendly franchise but still its disappointing

>a high note
>shitty vergin fight
>dante and vergil just fuck off to hell
>no character development
>no consequences for anything that happened

Don't jap companies only care about how their product does in japworld? how were 5's sales in japan?

Ho much for the first month for 4?

It's a trait I share with best boy then. I'm glad.

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Requesting lucia in her dt form drinking white Gatorade looking tough

You can't style switch on the fly in 3, it's a mod called style switcher, for the pc version.

If you have 3se PC or the HD collection in PC, install it. It's the most fun I've had with 3's bloody plalace in years.

and okabe said theres unreleased packages nigga

Sekiro was trailing behind BOTH Dark Souls III and Bloodbourne, and it's on track to outsell both. (already surpassed Bloodbourne).

>dante and vergil just fuck off to hell
they come back you knob

>no character development
>no consequences for anything that happened
wut

No, the whole reason Capcom outsourced their franchises was because they wanted to match Call of Duty numbers.

sorry but I tried to play 5 and uninstalled after the prologue, not only is the visual style utterly bland and disgusting, the dialogue made me want to die and the gameplay was awful, felt so unresponsive and funny enough, like I actually had one arm. I enjoyed DMC4 and other games in similar vein of gameplay but 5 just felt like garbage to play, was ear wretching to listen to and disgusting to look at. Actually unironically preferred DmC more than 5 even though that was a complete pile of garbage too. I hope the series stays dead.

Oh fuck, that makes me feel better. I played through all of the games for the first time in preparation for 5 so I'm not an expert. It would have made sense if I had missed it.

Back to gamefaqs

he probably meant the costume shit

>they come back
When? they're still there in the ending fighting demons

hi barry jr

Between having aerial rave integrated into standard moveset and this, wouldn't alastor end up being too much like DSD? granted they wouldn't be on the same game, but still.

The lucifer idea is neat, but I feel alastor would benefit more from having the lightning effect trish has in 4. That thing she does where a trail of lightning stays in the air after she does certain moves. Alastor having the same trail effect from a stinger/high time/helm breaker or whatever else to stun enemies around could be neat.

>Completely missing Vergil embracing his humanity back.
>Dante getting his own sword.
>Nero finally getting a DT
>"no character development"

Did you just miss everything that was shoved right in your face?

them in the van

Omg yes Dante my hunky monkey I love you Dante kiss me

I don't know why that would mean it's over. We should see if it did well overall.

>that pic
SAUCE please, yandex doesn't give me shit

He looks like shoenice

>Vergil embracing his humanity back
He literally didn't change as a character. He goes from muh power to "I wanna beat Dante" childish tantrum again.
>Dante getting his own sword
How is that character development? It also looks so shit, don't remind me.
>Nero finally getting a DT
This would be the case if it wasn't so corny, a phone call? really?

that makes no sense

Is this one of those paradox questions meant to shut down robots?

Phonecall reassured him, the death of his brother and wanting to save the family he had left motivated him. They already did the "NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE TIME TO GO DT", in DMC4.

>apparently confirmed DMC5 isn't getting any more content
>tfw DMC5 not only didn't exceed expectations but is worse than DMC3 because of this now
This isn't what I waited 10 years for.

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That's not canon you dum dum

If you don't have anything nice to say about my CUTIE CUTIE Nero, then DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL

You act as if Dante has actually been consistent throughout his games, kek, you poor thing.

DMC3 is the worst thing to happen to the series. It's impossible to have a thread about the series or a singular game without nigg3rs shitting it up now. Prove me wrong.

haha imagine if they actually made a good game? maybe then youd get more content or maybe even a sequel, capcoms back baby!!!

I really love Vergil, and wanted to cream my pants, but the final trailer completely spoiled it, and once he was back, he didn't really do much.
Also it just rubbed it in my face how there are fleshed out attacks and everything, but not playable.

Nero as a tall beefy demon looking similar to majin dante and the big blue boy would be nice

More like DMC3 was so good, it makes the rest of the games except for 1 look like mediocre bootlegs

Source?

you're a fucking faggot
nothing has been confirmed at all, dont trust itsuno and matt's lies when theres literally DLC bait in the game
you faggot

Far worse than 4. 4 opening was around 400k. 5 was like 200k
companies deal in comparitives. The suits will go "why make another DMC when that budget and resources can be put into making another RE or literally anything else that would sell more than DMC5 did."
If reuben's words are anything to go by, Capcom didn't wanna make DMC5 in the first place and if not for Itsuno's ultimatum and him wanting to make one, we might have never gotten 5

They are canon
Inb4 V
V doesn't appear with Vergil

DMC3 also sold the least in the entire franchise even less than DmC
>tfw factually the weakest link

FUCK CORPORATE BULLSHIT
GIVE US ART, NOT SOULLESS GARBAGE
GIVE US MORE LIKE DMC5

Divisional 2 and sekiro sold a fuck ton, its no surprise DMC being before them. Dmc5 sold 2 Million in 2 weeks

c'mon user, not even you believe that shit

How are they not?

That's because because DMC2 hurt the series' reputation, hurting the sales.
Do I also need to remind you that 2 also sold more copies than DMC1?

Yes, of course I know this. What I meant was, North America is not the entire world. I prefer to wait for Capcom's sales report to see if it did well or not.

senator Armstrong for prez 2020

You can't just post this here and leave us without the source.

Dante and Nero "bonding" in the van

:>

Nyuk nyuk nyuk

>Capcom didn't wanna make DMC5 in the first place and if not for Itsuno's ultimatum and him wanting to make one, we might have never gotten 5
And when I thought that man couldn't get any more based.

>make mediocre single player game
>why didn't people buy it

classic

Calling me a faggot twice dosn't change the fact that the only information we've gotten in ages was them telling us DMC5 is done. There was apparently online BP in the code as well and that never happened. So unless they show something soon DMC5, and the series, is fucking done.

Doesnt matter anyway, Itsuno is making Python Principles 2 before the next DMC.

V appearing in general is contradictory regardless of of Vergil is there too or not
Vergil has no reason to split again just to chill in the bus

>DMC5 sold poorly
>DMC5 sold more than DmC and 2/3 of DMC4's lifetime sales
Which one is it? It can't be both.

I don't care about the why's or how's m8, factually the weakest link.

If you don't care, then why should we?

Bullshit, no one ever thought they'd make a SE when DMC3 launched, what makes you think they won't make a 5SE. Have fun playing DMC3 without DSD Summoned Swords, King Cerberus, and Buster Cancelling.

dualshockers.com/resident-evil-2-devil-may-cry-5-high-expectations/

Was it disappointing to them then?

It isn't "fucking done" if it lives on in our hearts.
NOTHING can take that away from us.
I LOVE Dante. He's in my heart. What are you gonna do about it

sparda game will sell triple that.

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>talking about the opening
>when they already announced the 2 million stat
This reach, just like the Sekiro haters kept talking about about Sekiro's opening was behind Dark Souls 3 and Bloodbourne, and now it's already at 2 million.

V on the menu van scenes are before he merges with Urizen and becomes Vergil. Um not saying v comes back

It's the latter. Capcom isn't doing insane sales projections anymore. They consider Megaman 11's 870k in 3 months a success.

please take into account
a) capcom
b) making games in 2019 vs older game generations
c) its capcom

unless the game sold 500 million copies they arent happy

I swear anything that is ever discussed on this website is always "underpreforming" or "sold poorly". Better not take it seriously.

Considering DMC 5 sold 2 million in 2 weeks my guess would be the second option. People are just acting dramatic as usual.

Probably because the budget for MM11 is 35 yen and some stale onigiri

It didn't sell poorly, it just didn't beat Sekiro and other normie games in sales. Reminder the tweet only covers NA, and vanilla 4 was the best selling game in the series because it was a launch title and ported to both PS3 and 360.

SE was only a thing because DLC didn't exist back then, 4SE only happened due to porting, 5 hasn't got an excuse for an SE unless Capcom are intentionally holding content back for next gen which will piss off fans but more importantly destroy the opinions of all the new players DMC5 attracted, people don't like buying the same game twice especially a niche one. I hope to god I'm wrong and they announce more content because if they don't this is the death of DMC.

that's gay fag

*Van is bouncing and the windows are foggy*

"Who's in the Van, Nico?"
"It's Dante and Nero."
"Ah."

What's DMC5 at, because we know for a fact Sekiro is at 2 million.

holy shit, they actually played this gif

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>lack of information = THEY'RE DONE FOREVER CLOSE IT UP BOYS
do you know how many times we've gone without information in these threads?
>online BP
there was never any evidence to support that and we're idiots for believing it
>the series is fucking done
it never will be as long as we're still around to care for it

True. My point is that DMC5 likely broke even within 2-3 weeks considering it did over 2 Million before the end of March. To old Capcom, the fact that it isn't pushing 8 Million would mean it's time to quietly put the series away, but now I think that's enough to consider it a success and greenlight either DLC or a 5SE for 2020 while Itsuno is working on DD2.

There's already enough content for me to play for 50+ hours and probably gonna replay more throughout the year.

meant for
fuck

>we didn't know back then that there are 3 Vergils on the picture

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Imagine thinking DMC could get any deader than it was in the time between DmC and 4SE.

You do realize that 2mil is not some insane numbers for AAA game right? I always knew that it was a wrong decision to put so much budget in a DMC game. Not that I'm complaining as a fan.
To put it in context. nuGoW sold 3 million in 3 DAYS and overall 5 million in its first month

>what is turbo
>what is LDK
>what is all the other difficulties DmC added
>what is three characters which already have in game models with one of them already having a whole programmable moveset
You know nothing about DMC and you don't care about it. Go fearmong with your recycled posts somewhere else.

>It's fucking done.
user, we got DMC5 which in itself is crazy. What were the chances for this to happen ? But here we are. You should have more faith in the franchise.

Where's the damn source tho? At least make a webm, those gifs are too small

"V is Vergil" was the first leak

>Gameplay
5 with intertia > 5 > 4 >> 3
Don't know what to do with 1, it's too different from the rest, but I guess if we're looking for the same stuff the other two offer, it's the ""worst"".
>Story
3 >>> 4 > 1 > 5 the ending is just kind of really fucking silly, a better ending and I'd put it above the other two but I just don't like the ending.
>Stage design and ambientation
1 > 5 > 3 > 4 even if 4 still looks the prettiest, but it wasn't finished so, yeah.
>As a whole
5/1 > 3/4

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Just let it go. It's like you want to be disappointed.

Didn't they release a financial plan mentioning dmc as one of the games they'll keep supporting with dlc?

It's the same situatiton with the fagets who tried to call Sekiro a flop. Remember when the doomsayers were using "Sekiro is behind Dark Souls 3's launch" articles to call Sekiro a flop....well look how that turned out.

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not an argument

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DMC5 also sold 2 mil two weeks after its launch.

DMC5 had nowhere near the budget nuGoW or Spider-Man or similar games did. RE Engine did a lot of the graphical work for them, and you can tell that they had to cut corners in some places to fit into a budget. It was likely the most costly DMC, but it also had a much smoother and less-fucked dev cycle than DMC4, which had to basically scrap most of their work and start over without any delays.

Not really? Even when the final trailer came out showing Vergil, and V disintegrating, people were theorizing if V was Yamato. It was just basic logic to think V is Vergil, but no one knew for sure.

Also, no one ever suspected Urizen

Where can i find some good non shit nsfw dmc 5 art

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It's always the same thing, user. Always.

Someone post THAT image, I need to laugh at this guy.

>Gameplay
>4 >>> 3
This better include all characters because even without Style Switch mod 3Dante is far better than 4Dante. 4 is only better than 3 by virtue of having 5 characters that are completely different and fun to play (4Dante is still fun, just the least of the good DMCs).

>do you know how many times we've gone without information in these threads?
So much silence for a revived IP isn't a good thing and no information destroyed these threads. Pre release and immediate post release were when they were best, it's been absolute shit since.
>it never will be as long as we're still around to care for it
Now you sound like a NGfag

That is not a good defense for the situation we're in, it is however a good comment on the quality of the game.

>what is turbo
>what is LDK
>what is all the other difficulties DmC added
All things missing from DMC5
>what is three characters which already have in game models with one of them already having a whole programmable moveset
Jack and shit when Matt and Itsuno are both saying they're done with Itsuno already on his next project. It's absurd that a man can't show concern for a series he enjoys without the 1% of insufferable fanboys shitposting the fuck out of him.

>You should have more faith in the franchise.
It's Capcom I have no faith in, especially after they themselves had no faith in DMC5 and barely funded the project.

And until that DLC is announced I'm nervous for its future.

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DMC5 sold very well faggots, stop the doomposting

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This artist is 100% into Bleach and I can tell based entirely on how they drew Vergil.

>no one ever suspected Urizen
Go back to wherever you came from.

while I agree, comparing it to literal garbage that people boycotted isn't exactly a high hurdle

don't open
butthole inside

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It does. But honestly I don't get how anyone can say 4 Dante is worse than 3 Dante, considering I have a hard time playing 3 Dante after playing 4 so much, 3 just got kind of boring. Could you explain why you like 3 Dante more?

>So much silence for a revived IP isn't a good thing
then explain REmake 2's silence. thats capcom's biggest franchise and sold probably double than dmc5 did (so far)

I'm not gonna do an xbox for you

Nigga, Gow was always bigger. Dummy, God of War 3 sold 5 million. This is not new for the franchise. You sound like the fuckers at Capcom who thought DMC should be pulling Call of Duty numbers.

>no one ever suspected Urizen
everyone thought it was vergil even before someone edited dans voice from one of the trailers

Have faith in Itsuno's team user. They seem really passionate about the game. For my part, I'll try to not get my hopes up too much but I am honestly motivated with everything that happened. I believe there will be new content in the future. I don't know when, it may be in a long time. But I'll patiently wait for it and support the franchise as much as I can.

>Also, no one ever suspected Urizen
Wut? Where were you when everyone realized that Urizen was being voiced by Dan months ago?

*ahem*

FUCK HELL AND HELL
FUCK THE CHICKEN
FUCK SHADOW
FUCK NIGHTMARE
AND FUCK VERGIL FOR HAVING BEING A BITCH ALLOWING THESE CRETINS TO BE A BOSSFIGHT

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I'll gladly fuck Vergil.

>FUCK THE CHICKEN
don't gotta ask me twice

I.. uh... on the mortal kombat threads.
I am sorry

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Up until the final DLC it was getting constant news and updates, we didn't even get that and they basically got confirmation of REmake 3 as well.

I'm trying to think pratically and the revival of DMC5 is too new to be going silent so quick, they managed to get a whole load of new fans and the worst thing they could do is make them wait. We can because we did it for 10 years so it's nothing to us but if they let the new fans down DMC6, if it happens, will see half the sales of DMC5.

The user is right, the E3 leaker told us that V was Vergil and everyone knew that Urizen was also Vergil because of the trailers

>despise using rebellion/sparda while airborne because basically the only move you have is helm breaker
>dsd becomes a thing

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>not being a virgin
Gross.

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vergil is a cutey

Goddamn what a sexy ass gun.

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New thread Ignore the doom shitposting

new threado

Sold more than 1 and 3 if you want another comparison. We're just not sure about 4 since it also sold about 2 mil during its first month.

I must say I am really eager to see them, as I said I have faith in the game but I am also scared that it was not up to Capcom expectations. But with the success it's got, I'm hopeful.

What's up with japanese people and BIG FUCKING GUNS with bottom barrels?

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>DMC5 is too new to be going silent so quick
It's been two months wouldn't that be a little early to announce anything? RE got announcements 3 months after it's launch.

It's literally just fagets from gamefaqs

>despise using rebellion/sparda while airborne because basically the only move you have is helm breaker
>what is Swordmaster

user...

It's not shitposting if you're worried about Capcom being retarded about not releasing anything for a game you really like. Why are you so scared of discussion? Do you really want another thread of the same shit being posted over again?