Is modern bungie better or worse than 343?

Modern Bungie fucking sucks dick but at least they still have really good artists.

343 has bad writers, bad gameplay designers, AND bad artists. We'll see if all that still holds true with Halo Infinite.

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from what I can tell by looking it up it was them, plus 5 different companies. No wonder it was a disaster, why the fuck did 6 different companies work on a goddamn remaster pack?

>implying that Bungie, the company that ruined an entire genre, was ever good

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Because 343 were working on Halo 5.

At least 343 didn't willingly suggest implementing microtransactions in their game

pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-reboot-jason-schreier

>“What Bungie decided was: ‘we can’t do this any more. This is just too much, this is too hard for us to do – the tools that we work with are really hard to deal with. It’s hard for us to make this much content. It’s just hard making content in general.’ And they said ‘we are going to do a drip feed of smaller stuff, and we’re going to put up the Eververse, sell microtransactions, and make money that way.’ And Activision said ‘okay’ – it was a part of their renegotiated deal – and they got to a point where they didn’t have to be cranking out as much content. And now they’re back to the same pattern, where they have to crank out these DLCs and just be making content constantly.”

>Apart from the revelation that Eververse was Bungie’s idea – which runs contrary to the popular narrative of money-grabbing publishers browbeating well-meaning devs into greedy practices – it’s interesting that Schreier thinks the year one content cycle should still be a challenge for Bungie. The studio has grown significantly since 2014/15, and you’d hope that they’d fixed the problems with their development tools, too.

Bonus (the arrogance)

arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/sorry-to-say-it-but-keyboard-and-mouse-are-losing-the-fps-market/

>We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game—almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time. We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo 'cause nobody wants to.

>343 didn't willingly suggest implementing microtransactions in their game
yeah, they made a video belittling fans of the series instead regarding the issue. Much better

Because Don Mattrick sprung the concept of the MCC on 343 while H2A was well on it's way too being done, and not allowing them to budge on the release date. Naturally it was a fucking disaster and as always you can thank the suits first and foremost

343 is much better than Bungo, they fuck up a lot, and have taken Halo in some bad directions in the past, but a mixture of bad direction and trying to find their way out from bungie's shadow has made things hard for them. I genuinely think that between Halo 4 and 5 you've got all of the pieces for an absolute classic game (minus the art direction, which was provided by the guy who has since moved on to nuDoom, if you were wondering why they looked so fucking similar), so I think Infinite will be the moment where 343 can really put it all together and show their chops.

>343 was smart enough to completely rework the blam! engine because they ran to the same content problem as Bungie creating the superior SlipSpace Engine

>Bungie is so incompetent that they won't even create a new engine and is still using the same old ass blam! engine from 2001.

Why is Bungie so incompetent.

>Because Don Mattrick sprung the concept of the MCC on 343 while H2A was well on it's way too being done, and not allowing them to budge on the release date. Naturally it was a fucking disaster and as always you can thank the suits first and foremost
This

Bungie have fucked actishitter off that's promising...

>Implying Activision was ever the problem
If it wasn't Activision it would have been any other publisher, it's 100% Bungie's fault for why Destiny has been garbage.

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This

Better because fuck halo 4 and 5, at ;east destiny still has good music and art.

Shittier but that doesn't stop me from playing Destiny.
At this point what developer hasn't turned into a hollow shell of its former self.

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Modern Bungie just sucks, there is some talent in it but most of the leadership is crap. That is what killed the both Destiny 1 and 2. Activision might have a small part of the blame but Bungie has the lion share of it. Literally why the fuck would you scrap everything 3rd hour twice in a row. Guess anyone that learned from Halo 2's development left the company.

343 has made some really shitty mistakes and took Halo into a shit direction while being arrogant assholes about it. But atleast they changed their ways or the more likely the lack of money for Halo's new direction hit hard. So they started listening to fans to allow the art direction to go back, are going to put MCC on Steam, and seemed to be listen to the fans. Most likely to try to get money but we will have to wait and see if Halo Infinite will be the trash fire or 343i actually listening to the fans.

So to answer the question, right now 343i is better than modern Bungie.

Worse

343 has fucked up a lot but they are actively making an effort to improve: after 4 shit the bed, they removed all the codshit in 5 and drastically improved the MP, after the travis books ever book since has been great, 5 got tons of post launch support, MCC got a huge update intiiative and is now getting a PC port, etc.

wheras bungie is stagnating.

>343 has changed their ways
based off what? a 1 minute teaser with no gameplay or story? How much is Microsoft paying you guys to post this shit?

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stay assblasted bungiecuck

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I havn't bought a single destiny title

This is so much better right? youtu.be/eN_tD5y6k6s?t=152

Nobody says that. The gulf between what 343 does right and wrong is gigantic, and has been that way since the get go with the Reach DLC and Title update being followed up by Halo 4.

The thing is, Bungie is a dumpster fire, so its like someone who can walk out racing a person with no legs.

>finally making the pelican a flying vehicle in a mainline campaign
>making a better space shooting level
>60fps
>spectator mode
>better Forge than Bungie ever created
>got rid of the COD stuff
>brought back sexy female Spartans
>fixed Halo 4 after the backlash
>Halo 5's content
>fixing MCC
>putting MCC on PC
>putting Halo Infinite on PC
>bringing back the old art style
>putting us back on a Halo ring
>changing their direction up when they saw how much it was disliked
>putting the focus back on Master Chief
>realized it was time to change the Halo Engine up because it was too old
>mainly added to the series canon instead of throwing everything out with one game before they left to make an even more shitty franchise because they were bitter assholes
>fired people that needed to be fired instead of ones that didn't deserve like how Bungie thought it was a great idea to fire Marty and fuck up Joe's script.
>didn't get in an autistic rage because the original story of their games reference the books to the point where they had to change it to not fit with anything in the canon to exist

I don't necessarily agree with all of these but it points to the general trend of 343 being 2 steps forward and 1 step back with everything they do, I think 343 has the capacity to make a masterclass shooter, they just haven't gotten their shit in order yet. Bungo meanwhile has just kept repeating the exact same mistakes over and over for nearly half a decade now

Pretty much, I feel that if 343 gets it together they can potentially make one of the best Halo games ever made.