How hyped are you lads?

What didn't you like about the story?

>probably won't include the money cheat
Didn't even think about that. Dropped immediately. Game is garbage.

Can I get a rundown on the first game and why should I buy it
kinda interested
All I know is that its a first person rpg with vampires in modern times

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I'll keep my eye on it, but I'm not expecting much. I don't like most of the metaplot changes made in the latest edition. VtM should be a gothic-punk game, which doesn't work well in an age when those subcultures are dead.
>I do hope we get a night/day cycle though.
I think that's one of those things that sound good on paper but would just be annoying and tedious in practice. Every so often the game would the game would force you to stop whatever it is you're doing and get to a safe haven to skip forward in time 8-12 hours. You'd have to make multiple saves, because if you get yourself into a situation where it'd take too long to find somewhere to sleep the game would be impossible to complete.

I'm dreading this. No way in hell it wont be a shitfest. Bloodlines was lightning in a bottle

Very atmospheric RPG with an incredibly unique aesthetic, setting, and lore. High emphasis on player agency and choice. Game falters kind of hard in the latter third, due to the development team running out of time; but it's still one of the best RPGs ever made.

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>Bloodlines game in the modern age of gaming
>One of the writers is a massive SJW and feminist and already said that she's concerned about the Malkavians being mentally unstable
>I'm 30 and learned 13 years ago to never be hyped about games anymore because it never leads to anything good

I hope it's great, but I'm not expecting it and am not excited.

So the game is based on a tabletop RPG called Vampire: the Masquerade. The titual Masquerade refers to a vampire law where they hide their existence from mortals.

You're a human that gets taken home by a vampire guy/chick and turned, but you get "orphaned" almost instantly as your parent gets rekt. You are introduced to vampire society named Camarilla, which is a loose coalition of several vampire clans, each with their different powers and weaknesses. For example, there are the Brujah, which are usually temperamental rebels and anarchists, who are good at beating the shit out of things and influencing others through sheer charisma. Another clan is the Toreador, who are beautiful artists and diletanttes and have closer ties to humanity. Nosferatu are fuck ugly deformed monsters who have a vast intelligence network, Malkavians are (usually harmless) crazies.

So you run out some minor errands for the local Prince (vampire leader of a city or area)in Santa Monica. Further you get into the game, the deeper you get invested in vampire politics and powerplays.

Then a cargo ship with a mysterious sarcophagus arrives, allegedly the tomb of an Antediluvian (fuckold vampire). Everyone loses their shit, because if the Antediluvian were to wake up, it'd probably be bad news for everyone, 'cause Antediluvians wake up thirsty as all hell and they have a tendency to not give a fuck.

So this other vampire faction called the Sabbath, which are these nihilistic edgelords try to get their hands on the Antediluvian to essentially munch on the sleeping ancient to turn into Super Saiyans, and Camarilla tries to stop them. That's the main plot of the game, but there's a lot of sidequests and different areas to explore with their own important NPC's.

Combat is pretty shit, but the writing is good and dialogues are pretty fun and have some impact on the narrative. It's also a fun, modern vampire world.

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>Combat junk
Yes if you don't build for combat.
>Story shit
Either you mean Hollywood sewers onward or you're retarded.

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>I do hope we get a night/day cycle though
>In a vampire game

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I'm not, and you know why

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>Bloodlines was lightning in a bottle
Troika and the staff made multiple fantastic games, there will never be another quite like them.

What clan would Bodhi be?

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>there will never be another quite like them.
Ahem.

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Brujah, maybe. She has the charisma to lead a vampire coven. I wanted to say Gangrel because she's animalistic and likes to hunt you and Imoen at Spellhold, but she's not a loner.

All their talent is gone.
Outer Worlds looks like boring console shit rather than something Cain/Boyarsky have made in the past.

>nu-obsidian
outer worlds looks fucking terrible

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>Outer Worlds looks like fucking shi-

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I'd go with Assamite.

>0:03 - 0.05
That looks bad. This whole clip looks bad. Killed whatever interest I had in this game.

This is why I'm still a little more excited about playing VtMB in virtual reality at some point over the sequel

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>that fucking recoil in the cinematic shot part
Now thats about what I'd expect from people who have never shot a gun. Or apparently ever seen one shot.

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>The sewer section
What the actual fuck were they thinking?

I'm keeping a close eye on Bloodlines 2 because Bloodlines is one of my favorite games with high replayability. That "if you mention it someone will reinstall it" screenshot is really true.
It also has the same writer, what's most important to me in this sequel is the atmosphere, music, and the replayability and I don't think it's going to have that last part.

why's that thot on the building like that

It ascends the excuse of rushed development. If those types of levels were just outright removed from the game, the experience would be better. Unless they had some arbitrary playtime quota, there's no excuse for the inclusion of that garbage.

She wants to suck your dick upside down.

gay

Well you can count the music out at least. The same guy may be doing it but he wont be an angry, homeless drug addict fresh out of prison so there wont be that same...I dont know what you'd call it, edge? melancholy? theres a lot of anger and sadness in bloodlines music. Without the emotions it'll just be pale imitations.

Is there any porn of a vampire girl sucking a dick then draining blood from that dick.

That webm proves his point though.

not at all. bloodlines is a flawed gem made by veteran rpg designers. bloodlines 2 is made by literal who's.

the original fan base will be pushed aside, made segregated.

I want the giovanni to fuck off

>bloodlines 2 is made by literal who's.
But Avellone is on the project and Avellone is THE guy.

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That looks bad.

chris avellone doesn't develop video games, user.

I don't know, man. Music isn't really a "feeling", it's a - sometimes simple, sometimes complex - mathematical equation to creation sounds often associated with "feelings". Regardless, you act like he's never felt the things he felt before. All he has to do is thake the same progressions and arrange them with similar instrumentation and it'll make everyone happy.

what the fuck is with people complaining that this game will have too much "sjw modern politics"? when the first game came out it had...

>bush jokes
>gay characters
>the ability to basically be a lesbian
>a gang of commie vampires who are almost the objective good guys considering lacroix is a backstabbing fag
>a racially diverse cast
>casual sex
>drug use
>etc...

did people not fucking play the first game? it was super liberal and "sjw" for when it came out

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That doesn't count.

>Bust into Kuei-Jin Temple
>There's like only 1 or 2 Kuei-Jin in the place
On the first run I thought they were all Kuei-Jin and I could just feed on them, but in the second I had auspex and saw they were all just normal people for some reason.

Bloodlines did a good job of playing observer rather than contender. It certainly did not assert anyone as the "good guys". The fear is that they won't play observer anymore, and will try to assert a moral objective to the game which will mean it'll be poorly written and probably a bad experience.

Being gay/lesbian is not political

He has no room to talk, he was responsible for how KOTOR 2 and AP turned out at launch.

could have fucking fooled me considering how much bitching Yea Forums does about politics whenever a gay character rears its head

Those political issues are all old hat and irrelevant. The only issues that matter are trannies and Muslims and vtmb1 makes fun of the former and has no mention of the latter.

>t. Sawyer
LucasArts forced Obsidian to rush out the game, and it still ended up being one of the best RPGs of all time, in spite of that.

Sure it'll probably be satisfactory but theres just a magic to the originals ost, even (actually especially) the unused tracks are just gold. And there could be plenty of reasons why its so good but I believe its because he was in one of the worst places of his life.

Fuckin hell

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The Anarchs are very clearly the good guys in Bloodlines. You're retarded if you don't think so. The Camarilla does nothing but fuck you over again and again and manipulate you, whereas meanwhile the Anarchs do basically nothing wrong all game.

But those were hot topic issues when the game came out. If you're memeing with this comment, then fine I guess, but you missed the entire point. If the first game was made now it would absolutely contain those issues, much like how the first game contained similarly relevant issues.

doesnt count because its old
its only sjw tranny political shit if its released in this day and age

Because theres your old typical political shit (lets laugh at Bush being an idiot. Lets laugh at Republicans. Lets laugh at conspiracy theories etc) and then theres Rudi. Rudi is the point where their politics become contradictory messes that spit in the face of logic. This game will probably go full Rudi.

it's getting to the point where I legitimately cannot discern satire from legitimate /pol/ thinking.

There weren't very many actual Kuei-Jin in LA it seems. Most of their muscle comes from local humans that they hire or otherwise influence. Their strength comes from organization and unity of purpose rather than having a large number of powerful supernaturals ready to throw down with the local Kindred.

>whereas meanwhile the Anarchs do basically nothing wrong all game.
Sounds like you're forgetting all the vampires in Hollywood are Anarchs and you have to clean up a bunch of their messes.

>whereas meanwhile the Anarchs do basically nothing wrong all game.
Also you can't really tell until the game is over, but Jack slaughtered an entire ship of crewmembers to get to the sarcophagus. That's definitely not something a good guy would do.

Sadly this is true. The game fails to give the player the complete history of LA and tries to paint the Anarchs as the good guys when they're the reason LA is such a chaotic shithole and that before the Cammies moved in it was a haven of kindred gang warfare.

Being a liberal in 2004 was really different from today's liberals. But any time a new game gets announced it also just attracts shitposters. Half of the people complaining in VtMB2 threads said the sequel won't have anymore titties when the first trailer showed big titties, so they didn't even watch it before shitposting.

welcome to the embarrassing nightmare that it's this timeline

i always kill like a million humans when I play too and I consider myself pretty good

based jack

I went from very hyped to now cautiously optimistic after replaying and finishing VTMB 1 after many years. As there's so much that VTMB 1 has going for it not just in terms of the story and writing but also in terms of atmosphere and side quests. I just don't think they're going to capture that early 2000's gothic feel that VTMB 1 had.

Can't wait to change my gender again when I transform into a vampire :^)
I'll name my first character "Xir's Freebleed"

Jack isn't really an anarch though. He mostly hangs around with them because they're the only group that let him do whatever he wants. Jack doesn't take sides except his own, even Rosa doesn't include him in the list of people you can trust.

>As there's so much that VTMB 1 has going for it
This is true, but you conveniently left out the last fourth or so of the game turns into linear combat corridors.

Can't wait to join Rudi's Army

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hes right.

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There are other Camarilla vampires in the game besides LaCroix. Sure, the Prince was a cunt, but most of the other Camarilla vamps were pretty decent people. Using neonates as your cumrags is just a part of the Vampire society, even the Anarchs have you doing their dirty work for you and aren't painted as the "good guys" from what I can remember. I think the game makes it pretty clear that every side has its flaws.

Seething.

Mitsoda was the lead designer on the first one, so that game was also made by insane leftists.

Pretty excited. Here's to hoping it turns out better than the last Deus Ex game.

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I never played Mankind Divided, what IS wrong with that one? I've never seen anyone explain it, just wall-to-wall hatred

I liked Invisible War more than anything that came after it.

There's no good reason to preorder though. Too much time between now and release for something to go wrong.

Not much, really. It's just really unfinished and was obviously chopped up for sequel bait. In terms of gameplay, it's really good.

the devs being huge leftists is surprising how? WoD were sjws before the term was even coined.

I would be hyped if this game was being made by a brand new studio, but seeing as it's being made by a rebranded shovelware studio, my hype is non-existent.

There was only one hub in Mankind Divided. I didn't have a huge problem with that because the hub is huge.
The story is pretty unfinished as one user said, and when the game ends, it just ends. Right when it gets pretty interesting. Playing around with the new augmentations is cool though.

An excellent hub space with lots of verticality and level exploration, great sidequests, but main quest is mediocre and conspiracy theories take the back end for building Prague's story.

It's more content than Human Revolution but feels the least like a Deus Ex title.

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Nothing, people were just mad cause their toaster couldn't run it. It's a great game aside from being a little too short

The main story is pretty garbage. I hate its ending, but overall it was fun.

You'd have to be fucking delusional to be hyped.
Its made by a literal who studio who hasnt made a sign RPG before. Already proven to have blue hair politics. Removed Malkavians because they're "insensitive to people with mental illness". Written by nu-obsidian. Avollones name being stamped on it means nothing, like all the other games that have his name where he only writes one character for it.

I heard that the main character is going to be a Thinblood. If that's true, that pretty fucking lame.

So what I'm gathering is that the game itself is mostly fine, its just clearly got a cutoff where they said "this needs to be a trilogy"

Forgot to add, DirectX 12 no longer works either ever since the Spectre/Meltdown patches on W10. They would need to patch the game to fix it and I'm pretty sure thats not happening.

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Mankind Divided was fucked the moment they chop the story into pieces because Square wanted a trilogy

Correct.

So would you say the GOTY or whatever it is is worth 16 bucks?

Reddit

The game will be so fucking bad it'll drag that overrated dipshit Avellone's name to the dirt and Yea Forumstards will finally shut the fuck up.

basically

I thought it said bloodborne 2 and got exited.

Definitely.

Cool, thanks. Now to spend forever getting ghost and non-lethal the entire time

Avellone is underrated.

Those kind of playthroughs are so tedious compared to just walking into the front door and gunning everyone down.

To a point, yeah. But I just have so much more fun doing it that way.

Is Final Nights good? I don't want to play a mod with shitty dialogue and deviantart tier clans

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That chart is bullshit. A properly built hunter can wreck almost any supernatural in the game.

I don't know much about WoD. How can fledglings and neonates can't stand up to senior vampires, but a hunter can? Do they basically have the power of God on their side?

Depends. If you're talking pure, white room 1 v 1, then a Werewolf Alpha can kick all kinds of ass. But Vampire elders are much more dangerous in an actual roleplaying game because they have centuries of knowledge, wealth, allies and mindfuckery powers.

Hunters are pretty low tier, desu.

True Faith, which is strong enough belief in anything, not just god, can basically pump a regular human into insanity tier strength because of how humans are with regards to their potential and scaling.

Theres a 5 dot ability they can get that basically makes supernaturals impotent. They become basically humans again and cant access their powers. You put a hunter with that up against anything with stats (Caine doesnt have stats so he cant die or be used as anything but a kill anything button) and they're dead.
Also mages get fucked over with paradox so they're actually quite a lot weaker than the fluff likes the show. Its one of the reasons why crossover games can get so...bullshit.

"The God Machine"

Get this nWoD shit out of here. The upcoming vidya game is set in oWoD.

There's only one good thing that ever came out of nWoD, and that's Changeling: the Lost. Pure kino.

Mental health is no joke.
No malks.

>western games
haha no

>no malks
I think I'd die if they really cut out the Malks. They're my favorite clan.

Where was it confirmed there'd be no Malkavians? Are they just non-playable or completely nixed?
An earlier user said VtM:B was lightning in a bottle but honestly I think the Malkavian dialogue fits that more. Mitsoda wrote that shit on hours of sleep deprivation and I don't know if my expectations would be high enough to expect him to do that again or write it cleanly and try to match the first game's quality.

Yup. Literally worse than "Sir, finishing this fight," cut to credits.

Every supernatural line has a power curve and the oldest or strongest examples of each will have reality-bending powers and find it easy to kill most other supernaturals they would encounter. It's how games work.
The chart is referring to hunters from Hunter: the Reckoning, not just mortals who hunt supernaturals that might have True Faith.

They haven't confirmed which clans are playable. They just said they'd be conscious that mental illness is a serious subject.

This Kuejin arent able to embrace people like vampires are so they cant go make a 100 kuejin. it happens mysteriously and no one really knows why or how it happens. Someone dies, then they undie.

To get the feel of the original it needs to be unplayable with crashes and bugs

Fuck them. Even the Malk clanbooks go on about how they dont have real mental illnesses, but vampire insanity, and that you dont have to focus on it being realistic for your character. Its a curse in their bloodline, not schizophrenia.

The first game's Malk is already considered problematic and is seen as reducing mental health issues to a butt of a joke.

There is no way they can do any of that again.

I say Malk will play just like all the other characters, but will get one or 2 optional unique dialogue choices that are supposed to make you look cool and insightful(haters getting told) instead of deranged.

The first game shit all over Bush and no one cared

The first game had lesbian vampires and no one gave a shit

The lore for oWoD literally had a lesbian black female Assamite who was so badass they changed their “no women allowed” rule and no one gave a shit

The lore for oWoD also had a Tzimisce who was originally black but likes shape shifting into a woman and no one gave a shit

Anyone claiming to be “upset” over Bloodlines 2 being “too liberal” or “too political” is a LARPer who never played the original game or tabletop

>remember we're vampires, nobody here is a good guy

Jack literally tells you this straight away in the tutorial. You are a complete idiot if you think the anarchs are any different than the camarilla or any other faction for that matter

the augs = minorities angle is fucking horrible writing and makes no sense
also the aug limit for jensen is fixed with one sidequest and then it makes you a walking demigod with no story ramifications
still fun tho
youtube.com/watch?v=qdcKwATSYh4

>muh Rudi
But the devs said he isn’t in the game. And he isn’t even the first gay black Muslim vampire in oWoD

sent this to them with job position you gave.

protect integrity of games

Really hope it's good, and eager to keep an eye on it, but I've learned not to over-hype revivals of old classics.

Better to try to judge it by its own merits than hold it to some impossible standard that fifteen years of waiting builds up in your head.

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hope it turns out good and hope we can see some gameplay soon. or at least know what clans are available

Well, Jack obviously hasn't met Rudi.

>And he isn’t even the first gay black Muslim vampire in oWoD
I've read through most of the vampire books from the old world, hell I have almost all of them pirated on my laptop, and I cannot for the life of me remember a gay black muslim vampire before Rudi. And if there is one then its just as fucking stupid then as it is now.

>They just said they'd be conscious that mental illness is a serious subject.
Mitsoda said the same thing with VtMB back in 2009 so that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Only some journalists said it was problematic, I don't think the devs have said that. Especially since they're including the stop sign as an item in 2, I think the devs still like the Malk from 1.

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People had a problem with the Malkavian PC when the game was released. They're a fishmalk.

man, the rudi joke is still funny, months later

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having sunlight be a factor of a specific story quest or two, but putting the game on a constant timer that forces you to rush back to your haven every so often just wait it out would probably lose its novelty pretty quickly.

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Fishmalks only ruin a game with other players though. I thought it was perfectly fine to go full fish since there isnt anyone else to fuck with beyond the npcs

no, no it isnt. but keep forcing it anyways andy sixx

>pay attention to loading tips
i installed it on my ssd and played through it last month and it loaded too fast to the point I could only read like 6 words before it was done loading

Im pretty sure they already confirmed the game is going to be eternal night like the first game.

Where my blood mages at?

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Fuck off tremerefags nobody likes you.

Right one is qt as fuck would let her diablerize me

>Being a Tzimisce puppet

and you can easily refund if thats the case

I want a wacky over-the-top boss fight where you're fighting someone on a rooftop before the sun rises and threatens to instantly kill you both.

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>people crying about sjw homosex vampire games
>not realising vampires have been sjw homosex fags since the dawn of time

What is there to be hyped about? This is the same situation it was for Cyberpunk 2077. I don't care about any game unless I can actually see what its gameplay is like. Paradox restricting gameplay footage to journalists only, who overlook any flaw in the presentation, doesn't get me hyped, it makes me wary of what the game will actually end up like. CDPR eventually gave into releasing gameplay demo footage, and I hope Paradox will do the same.

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This, vampires have always been fucking gay. Anybody who is into them is a guaranteed fruitcake.

exactly right

>The Final Nights mod adds 7 new clans
>Assamite, Baali, Followers of Set, Ishtarri, Osebo, Salubri, Samedi
Who the fuck gives a shit about playing any of those?

Yeah, Strauss is pretty cool if you stay on his good side, and Bertram and Mercurio show that there are people in the lower ranks of the Camarilla doing just fine as well.

I do wish that we had gotten to meet a few more of the Clan primogens and explored a few more of the Anarch's potential flaws with Nines and Jack rejecting the politics that it would take to actually lead their group, but I guess there were enough things that had to get cut in the end as is.

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Yeah. It doesn't deserve hate, honestly.
Some of the side-missions are really fun and the game is well made and has the right atmosphere, it just ends really abruptly. Gun-play is better than Human Revolution as well. I'm surprised we still don't have any real info about the follow-up game.

Itd be interesting to have to deal with sunlight as a vampire.

Not at all desu. I'll be looking out for reviews and opinions though.

I need more of these.

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Imagine a game where your character is randomly passing out and immediately dying. That's what dealing with sunlight is for Kindred.

>preordering a game that you haven't seen gameplay footage of

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t.

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It's interesting to me that not one of the "What I got" images is from any of the films that Bloodlines uses as source material and usually also directly references. What the fuck is American Psycho doing there?

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I wish that Jeanette and Therese had played an ongoing role in the story, trying to cozy up to the Camarilla amidst all the chaos. Having you play wingman between them and the prince.

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>It's interesting to me that not one of the "What I got" images is from any of the films that Bloodlines uses as source material and usually also directly references.

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I wish there had been any politicking at all beyond making a choice between different factions from a single conversation at the very end.

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>its open
YOU FOOL

I suppose Gimble could fit the psycho archetype.

I miss character driven RPGs and I miss atmospheric horror games.

I don't expect the perfect spiritual follow-up to a game that was made by a mostly different team over a decade ago, but it still has all the ingredients that make me happy to know that it exists.

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Fuck no. Bloodlines is fun because it's just a fuck ton of pop culture references. The politics stuff is boring and it's apparent from the game even the devs thought so too. The last thing I would ever ask for is for Bloodlines to be more like New Vegas.

VtM is all about politics, though. Even when playing as the Sabbat and Anarchs.

You can still lick boot and burn your bridges in a way that changes who you can and cannot ally yourself with in the end. But more general branching would still be appreciated.

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>release party
>no gameplay shown
I refuse to be hyped.
i wont be hurt again

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I wish there would be a good Bloodlines sequel but I know it won't.

At worst it's a Phantom Menace.
And even at best it can be like a star wars: force Awakens type of deal; A technically solid game and it'll go through all the needed motions to pass as sequel but it won't be great, it won't rock anyone's world, it'll be inoffensive all around, a passable "okay" game. Standardized modern product.
>"Well, it was a star wars movie... and it was good I guess."
>"Well, it was Vampire game... and it was good I guess."

That's how everything is made now.

We are talking about the game Bloodlines, though. Bloodlines is not popular because everyone thinks VtM is great and has really interesting politics that we want to spend a 30 hour RPG exploring. Bloodlines is popular because their opinion on all that is little more than "Politics is bullshit" and they spent most of their time writing interesting quests that have almost nothing to do with the politics of the universe.

I don't see why they can't play up the Malkavian hallucinations and chaotic psychic readings, emphasizing how it's all part of a vampiric foresight that's difficult to understand at first glance.

Just give them dialogue that makes them sound a bit less like a total doof.

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>no gameplay shown
They did show gameplay, but restricted it to journalists only.

That'd give kids the idea that mental illness gives you cool superpowers and anyone with real hallucinations might get triggered by the Malkavian gameplay.

I guess I have a twinge more optimism then that simply because VTMB is a more niche idea at its core. Star Wars is a guaranteed money maker that corporate suits benefit from making as safe and homogenized as possible. Whereas Bloodlines is a weird cult classic that completely failed on release and only seems to be coming back because some of the old devs/writers behind it really wanted to make another pitch.

I still think it's better to keep expectations tempered, but I'd like to believe that there's still a bit of passion somewhere behind this series making a sudden unexpected comeback.

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>A technically solid game and it'll go through all the needed motions to pass as sequel but it won't be great
I think that's what will probably happen. It's happened with a bunch of other sequels to my favorite games lately. They're just trying to recapture the peak which doesn't really work. Rik Schaffer even said at one point he started writing instead of composing because he knew he couldn't top the VtMB OST.

I know that a lot of people say VR is just a meme and it sucks right now, but I think as it gets better it might kickstart another golden age of vidya because the technological leaps will bring improvements and change instead of the current climate of rehashing.

>3 episode DLC day one
>$99

yeah nah I'm gonna buy a year later for $10 after people realize its shit

Bootlickers only*
Dont trust a word from those snakes.

whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Fatima_al-Faqadi

>but restricted it to journalists only
That's like showing a script to people who can't read. What a waste.

I wanna see the gameplay first. I've almost finished the first game as Malk. the fucking glitches are annoying as hell sometimes. why does the Malk MC freak out so much when she talks to the taxi man?

>VR is just a meme and it sucks right now, but I think as it gets better it might kickstart another golden age of vidya
Maybe if it makes some huge unforeseen leap in advancement. But apart from it simply being too expensive at this point, I personally don't feel like updated controllers is the secret to the next big step in gaming. What we need is to step away from the bloated Triple A business model that's absolutely terrified to experiment with anything new for fear of not making money back. As well as the viral spread of anti-consumer business practices and mandatory live-service bullshit.

Let devs try something different with smaller creative projects and budget them with a smaller audience in mind. It's why so many people look back on the PS2's massive library with so much fondness despite it having so much shovelware on the side.

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>why does the Malk MC freak out so much when she talks to the taxi man?
Because he's Caine

No...I'm Caine!

WHERE ARE YOU TAKING US?!

You could've fixed the world's agricultural problems but you just had to be a faggot and become a taxi driver instead.

Based on my experience with unearthed classics, this will be shit and that's saying much considering the original game's gameplay was kind of awful. Literally the only thing anyone wants from it is a fun RPG with good characters and a passing story without any pandering or bullshit.
Not going to happen. The 1 year preorder and announced dlc is a dead giveaway.

It's like if the first Detroit part of HR was 2-3 times as long and then the game just ended at the FEMA camp. The game has a lot of issues but you can get it cheap nowadays and it still scratches that itch even if half of it is sifting through uneventful, identical looking slav apartments for garbage you don't need

fuck off Tzimisce scum

the MC Malks are fucking penguin of doom tier. If there's no Gir nonsense in the sequel I'm all for it

No they aren't. There are a few over the top lines but they're not all like that.

what are you talking about? every quest I can think of is you doing something for a faction or because youre subordinate to another vampire. Its the entire culture of vampires in that universe. there are very few "off the path" quests that have nothing to do with any of the factions or vampires such as hunting the yokai with that anime girl.

Bloodlines is one of the best games of all time and this will be shit.

They fucked up in the reveal trailer. They had one. Fucking. Job. And they screwed up.

They didn't end the trailer with "These.. are the Final Nights."

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wow sekiro ripped this off

Mitsoda worked on the first game and even voice acted a lot of characters (that newscaster that everyone always jerks off to, that's him) so I have absolutely no problems with him coming back, since he's the main writer.

That SJW red flag lady that everyone always brings up ALSO worked on the first game from what I remember, so I have no fucking idea why some of you are panicking, unless she drastically changed her writing style we should be good.

Was Avellone a writer for the first one, though? I'll remind you that he hasn't done anything good since KOTOR2.

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>Brian Mitsoda is lead writer alongside Avellone and Cara Ellison (who in particular wrote a chunk of the side quests)
>Rik Schaffer the original composer is back (confirmed via e-mail)
>No quest markers, natural exploration just like the original
>Set in Seattle with seamless hub worlds
>Direct sequel to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
>Takes place 15 years after Bloodlines
>Game starts off with a Mass Embrace where the player is among the new vampires born from the event, you're captured and brought to a court of prominent vampires like the first game to recount the events of the mass embrace before being sentenced to death, court is firebombed and you escape, thrust into Seattle to find out who's responsible
>Player is a thin-blood at first, choose a Clan later on
>If your humanity is low enough it will have implications with your dialogue choices
>First-person with contextual third-person actions
>Fan-favourite characters from Bloodlines returning
>You can use telekenesis, turn into mist to go through vents and glide
>You can scale buildings, there's an emphasis on verticality
>Level design is reminiscent of the original Deus Ex, you're offered many different pathways to approach a particular scenario
>Way more dialogue than Bloodlines
>Huge emphasis on character creation. You can choose your background, gender pronoun, employment history, body type and fashion
>Lots of secrets and hidden pathways to find
>Seattle as a hub world is described as "very active", crowds gather outside clubs and muggers prey on victims in side allies
>Deb of Night type feature will make an appearance as confirmed by Mitsoda

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VR isn't too expensive, it costs less than shitty dedicated bloodborne boxes. I'm a poorshit college student and I have a Vive and a racing rig

>NPCs can react to you depending on what background you chose for your character in character creation, for example you can be a cop, a coroner, or a barista for a more neutral and blank slate background
>Main side-questline involves hunting down and finding all the other thin-blood created from the Mass Embrace, each will have their own story about entering into their new life
>Blood resonance from VtM 5th edition will appear in this game. Using your enhanced vampire senses, you can see when NPCs are experiencing an intense emotion like fear, desire, pain, joy and anger. Drinking a person with a strong resonance will give you an immediate bonus to things like melee power or seduction. If you drink a particular resonance constantly, you will acquire a taste for it and this will give you permanent buffs called "merits".
>If you continuously suck on people's blood in full view of the public, they'll be less wary of going to those areas and you'll see less citizens wandering the streets
>Game has modding support, available Day 1
>Emphasis on fluid combat, using vampiric speed to slide in and out of melee range and slash people and execute them with melee weapons. You can get special cinematic finishers in combat when you execute people a la Deus Ex: Human Revolution
>It’s still called the Masquerade, so if you eat someone in public or turn into a bat in front of a bar you’ll get in trouble not only with the police, but also some beefier supernatural watchdogs
>The humanity system returns, so killing innocents brings you closer to the inner beast

unironically has more chance of being a bettter RPG than 2077
2077 has a voiced fucking protagonist in a 1st person game for Christ's sake

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Because they aren't
The setting is different now, it's probably nWoD or one world of darkness.

What are the chances Salubri are playable?

Not even remotely because it's quite clearly going to be an awful game.
I can't believe people here are still stupid and naive enough to hype it.

>why should I buy it
The general consensus is that, while you should play it, you probably shouldn't buy it

>Portland
not even a little.

>That SJW red flag lady that everyone always brings up ALSO worked on the first game from what I remember
Cara Ellison? She didn't work on the original. She's also praised Anita Sarkeesian and called her an academic, which should be worrying to anyone with half a brain.

not even remotely, I expect that it will be shit

Hyped enough to finish Bloodlines 3 times within 10 days. Which makes it a total of 20+ something since 2004.

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>unironically has more chance of being a bettter RPG than 2077
Brought to you by a literally who development team with nothing of note under their belt. Pull your head out of your ass.

It's confirmed to be the same setting.

Whenever I play VtMB I always have to play it two or three times before I feel satisfied. Then I'll play it again within 6 months.

I'm up to about 40.

no, Witcher 3 sucked shit and the others weren't great either
hold X to retard vision quests, a Ubisoft-tier map and shitty combat with a consolized UI

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>guys, here's a list of everything we're going to make. the fact that we made a checklist means it will 101 percent make it into the game, and that we're perfectly capable of achieving every single thing we promised to do.
how do you get fired up this easily

kino

Check out The Final Nights, the most refined mod I've had for this game. I like their selection for the OST, it totally fits this setting and nice for a change. My only gripe is its inspection system, items straight out not spawning if your inspection isn't high enough.

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Oh. Well then, that's worrying.

Yes very interesting
>sun's about to get up
>go home and sleep
>wake up in the night and continue doing what you were doing
Super interesting

>he didnt love it when you talked to your tv
Absolute pleb.

These sound good but then i remember that the game is made by a literally who studio with a bad record and we haven't seen any gameplay footage yet. I surely hope it turns out to be a good game but getting hyped always leads to disappointment.

And its not the final nights even in V5. Gehenna isnt the extinction of the kindred species in the new lore, its more like a cyclical renewing of the blood now

Well, theoretically speaking, Troika didn't have any experience with 3D games either when they were making VTMB, and while it turned into a trashfire, they did well enough to make a flawed classic.

Speaking of the reveal trailer, there's been talk of the bitch in the green dress being Lilith. I fucking hope she's not. She's got nothing to do with vampires, besides teaching Caine how to make Disciplines at first.

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mommy

Their recent stances on trying not to piss the fans off has reassured me somewhat but still, no game no hype, I'll believe in this game when I see it.

None of this means shit until we can see how the game actually fucking plays. No amount of copypastas like that will get anyone hyped.

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If she's well written and isn't just another plot device for "us ancient being amrite" or "caine amrite", I don't see what the big fuss is. I want them to bring in some good voice actors like Mary Elizabeth McGlynn or Simon Templeman. Templeman especially should be a fucking guaranteed one for a vampire game.

Stop that.

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It would be a good addition if it was done well. Imagine being on the run from the hunters, sun's about to rise and you're far away from your haven and have to find shelter fast. Gangrel with Protean can end up with hiding in the grass etc.

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why

I don't get hyped for shit anymore. Either release gameplay footage or fuck off.

From developers who actually knew what they were doing. You'll be lucky to get something on the same level as ELEX or Two Worlds II.

She'll be one of the old vamps still kicking like Helena come to settle scores or take over.
My money is on her being behind the mass embrace and a rogue Sabbat come to finish the job since they've tried to take Seattle multiple times from the Cammies.

I have an issue with Lilith because she despises Caine and all of his childer. And I am afraid of how V5 suddenly brings up the Bahari as some kind of relevant shit for the game, when it's always been this tiny sect of absolutely retarded faggots who just don't like Caine as their progenitor, so they opt out of that in favor of Lilith. Also, one of the Gehenna scenarios had Lilith using vampires to get at Caine, since she was afraid God would strike her down if she laid a hand on him herself. It does fit in with the whole manipulating elder vampires shtick that VtM does, but Lilith has never been a vampire.

I want to pre-order it because the Bloodmoon edition is for $20 on Steam and I'm afraid they'll increase the price in the future, just like how RE2's & DMC5's price doubled overnight right before their releases. But at the same time no gameplay video is released so I don't want to give money to something based on its name alone.

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I played TFN a long time ago but don't remember too much. Not sure if I would want the OST changed but that inspection thing sounds bad.

Did you try the Clan Quest Mod? It adds an extensive Sabbat questline and new hub/NPCs, which is all mostly done pretty well.

>like Helena
Helena has become a pure A grade fucked up cunt. Even Prias eventually wised up to her game and contemplated killing her once the blood bond faded after a few centuries.

I could see this woman being an elder vampire who's used a blood bond on the players to actually manipulate him from the sides, without the player being actually aware of it for the first playthrough. Something like this could be easily done with conversation options being more limited than usual.

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To be honest, most people they've shown don't actually look like vampires. I guess the Toreador lady looks like she has awe turned on 24/7.

>Hollywood sewers onward
eh i liked the nosforatu and the mansion, it was just the island and later half of china town that suck

McGlynn already voiced Pisha.
Had my last playthrough as Sabbat Nosferatu. Voice acting was done very well
youtube.com/watch?v=JMT66tAXm20
>Who can stand in the shadow of Hazel Tomes' resplendent eminence?

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>If your humanity is low enough it will have implications with your dialogue choices
>You become a Trump supporter and transphobic

Makes sense.

I just want to be able to play as a Lasombra, where their discipline isn't just a combat gimmick, that's all.

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pronouns

>literally theorycrafting about how a game is going to dare insult the God Emperor Drumpf so you can be outraged for a whole day or two

it's a video game, every discipline is a combat gimmick
look at Presence or Beastiality

Yeah, but I'm hoping Obtenebration, or Oblivion as it's called now, has some other applications outside of combat. I mean, fucking Shadowstep, Tenebrous Form or Abyss Watchtower powers would be fucking amazing to have.

Remember, girls - Masquerade.

She explicitly does though doesn't she?

>Beastiality

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No, she says you can trust the lone wolf (Beckett) and the man on the couch (Mercurio).

Doesn't really matter who she voiced, there are VA's in the original that have like four or five roles. Who do you guys want to see come back from one? I'd like to see Yukie and Grout (but not in person, just like in 1).

That's what the Gangrel use right?

Aren't antediluvians supposed to be OP as fuck lads? Tremere, Augustus Giovanni & Cappadocius are all 3rd gen vampires yet they don't appear to be on the same power level as say Ravnos antediluvian.

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I have no idea what you're talking about. My understanding is that it's always, perpetually the Final Nights and Gehenna is the literal end of the world that everybody is dreading could come any night. Must be some nu-lore shit.

based furries

It is new lore, and since this game is based on said new lore its the canon for the game.

user no one actually liked Gehenna. It was a huge mess of an idea that got dropped hard as fuck. It was 90s "Y2K" shit.

>I don't trust anyone with an X in their name
>KnoX
tries to deceive you into fighting the Kuei-jin in Santa-Monica
>Mr. oX
Is actually a powerful demonic being
>Ming-Xiao
Tries to lure you into her test-field for experimenting on Kindred
>LaCroix
Doing LaCroix things

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Animalism

Yeah, they're basically plot devices, so they can do whatever. They aren't really meant to have definite power levels, just do whatever a story requires.

MaXimilian Strauss

I fucking hate how people equate Gangrel with that cancerous mentally ill fandom since I've never made that connection myself. Gangrel being in tune with the Beast has nothing to do with wanting to cosplay a dog, and vampires turning into wolves has been a thing in fiction for a long time.

You don't fucking call Kain from LoK a furry just because he can turn into a gigantic beast that rips people in half, right? Plus, Ennoia is fucking h o t. It's a based clan that gets a bad rep because of a few incels in dog suits.

i fucked up, it's called Animalism
it's basically about talking to animals

have sex

I liked it. Not as an actual event happening in the game, but more like "oh shit, oh fuck, Caine's gonna wake up any time now and he's gonna be mad" type of thing, where Elders are getting increasingly paranoid about something that might not even happen. That was the charm of the "Final Nights" for me.

learn to take jokes, tranny

Don't know how Max is trying to deceive you, he's one of the few honest characters out there.

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Yes.

Not a virgin and not a tranny. You guys are complete and utter caricatures.

What little references would you like to see?

Personally I want them to put like a sliver of a Daiklaive in the game, and if you touch it, you feel like your soul is being yanked out of your body. Get some old references going on.

Says the nigga seething over a joke

I assume he means that you'll have to quickly return to your home before the sun comes up, maybe you could get jumped by some thugs along the way and either have to fight them normally and waste more time potentially getting scorched or use a power to distract them as you run past, potentially risking a masquerade violation.

OwO whats this

Well you seem faggy enough to be able to do it so you're a shoe-in

I just don't like furries, don't know what to tell ya.

Hah hah, point at this furgrel and laugh!

ELEX was kino though.

Woah hello tits in the current year.

Maybe because he won't tell you it's his gargoyle, and he won't give you the protection item unless you have high Persuasion or are a Tremere.

I'm on the fence due to some of the red flags but I'm hoping it'll turn out good.
The obsidian that put out MOTB, KOTOR2 and FNV is not the current nuObsidian. They died shortly after New Vegas when they let go of most of their staff since iirc Bethesda offered to buy them out and they refused. The only good character by SJWyer was based Joshua Graham, and even then he's more Avellone's character then anything.

>Having to cheat to get money
Great way to outing yourself as someone on the same level of
a game journalist

I refunded it because I couldn't stand its combat and I played all Gothic & Risen games.

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Was this suppose to look good?

I hope you're trolling otherwise you outed yourself as a potential shitposter who didn't even play the game. Putting "money" in the console with a number after it changes breast size.

So he writes about one character that's about as shit as Ulysses so they can brag about having him work on the game?

To be fair based autismo completely changed Graham as a character, he also did Arcade who was one of the few good gay characters in video games.

It will be really gay, but it will probably have replay value in playing all the different clans.
That, or they'll just be really lazy about it make the player character some unique OC bullshit with all the different clan abilities.

I am convinced he wrote bear and bull because he had grew tired of fallout, would explain the whole DLC.

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>outerworlds
the game already looked boring and now that they
announced it being an ebin store exclusive it will definitely get flamed on.

They got assfucked by publishers again, Feargus is an absolute fraud who needs to be kicked out by Microsoft.

That recoil felt weird to watch. They better tweak that shit

I never really got anger from the music, just depression.
>It's another "Obsidian can do no wrong, it was always the publishers fault!" episode
Explain Alpha Protocol then.

>Pick Gangrel because they seem the least insufferable while still maintaining a sense of "normalcy"
>Their clan is the biggest group of jobbers in the game
Having the Sabbat be like 99% Gangrel was a weird choice. Got even worse when you realize they're just werewolf-lite and you finally see how puny your "war form" stacks up to the real deal.

>lets laugh at Bush being an idiot.
>being mad at the truth

AP was fucked by management and then it was fucked by publishers.
I wish we got Mitsoda's vision of the game, even if the game we got from Avellone was actually a rough gem.

He's in Copenhagen and devs already said he wasn't in this game, so not likely.

>Removed Malkavians because they're "insensitive to people with mental illness"
No they didn't.

Didn't all the writers who did that lose their jobs anyway.
Paradox are lowkey a very good thing to happen to the franchise.

I'm at the temple looking for Ming. should I open it?

Your loss, honestly. ELEX was really good

Paradox are like a year or two away from turning into baby EA/Ubisoft.

>Sabbat be like 99% Gangrel
I think the basic mooks were split between Gangrel and Toreador. The ones with the model of the guy in the middle use Celerity and Presence, and they don't use melee weapons.

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I personally would advice against it, but if you really wanna open it up, go for it.

EA or Ubisoft would never support a project like this.

Why would you ignore what your nigga Beckett would say my dude?

>Picture of a vampire moments away from sucking the blood right outta that equin peen, circa 1940 colorized.

>Toreador now get to list jobber along side all the shit they couldn't keep in check in Hollywood
Nightly threats of zombie apocalypse, a hostile gargoyle right across the street from the Baron, an ID'd vampire who was about to break the masquerade in 10 kind of ways, and another vampire whose on the edge of being found out while being too enraptured by some fat dudes fanfiction to lift a finger and do anything.

I want to believe but it seems like there's quite a few red flags about this game, plus and more importantly the fact most of the devs have done nothing but make a shitty p2w shooter in the past. I'll be on the fence till some actual footage comes out, and even then I might stay on that fence till release. Anyway, have a qt penguin.

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>When you want the horse blood, but you remember that it's not the only thing you're thirsty for.

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I heard once that they

>removed malkavians
and
>Made a Trump joke

>removed malkavians
By angry Yea Forumsirgins taking a retarded journo's comments out of context.

I wonder if the game will retain its goofiness. While WoD is a brutal world, things like Deb of Night (callers voiced by Mitsoda especially) was a great comedy value.

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I hope Mitsoda does a bunch of voices again, he was great in bloodlines.

All they said about malks was shit about treating mental illness with more respect, not removing them. They properly just won't make being a malk "le funny fishmalk reddit humor" and portray it differently.

>bunch
Did he do more then Romero?

Not very.
Mediocre devs, playing as a thin-blood, spouting politics before showing any gameplay.
I'd rather just play Bloodlines or the old PnP with a few lads.

He was on the tv and the radio too.

>paradox
>shit tier developer
>sjw shit

Not at all.

>muh reddit
A shitload of Malk lines had some serious foreshadowing. Not to mention playing as one upped the game's replayability factor.
It's like the devs want to fucking kill their own game.

>paradox
Almost forgot about that. Fucking kikes.

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And every line that isn't foreshadowing is reddit humor. The fact you like it and thought it was so funny says plenty about who I'm talking to though, now go back.

>playing as a thin-blood
They have said you become part of a clan

You sound like an absolute nigger.

The studio has no track record so I'm doubtful.

Been replaying 1 and it's not as good as I remember. A lot of the writing, especially of your dialogue options, is pretty cringey "LOL RANDUM XD" shit which I didn't remember, and the rushed second half basically forcing you into at least a semi-melee build is lame.

And you sound like a redditor trying to "fit in".

I'm vary but otherwise i am interested.

Your every post is "muh reddit" and "go back" and I'm the one who's trying to fit in?
Lurk more.

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Sega has a habit of fucking games over, yes.

G O
O

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This
Also release date 2020 fo sho

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It's surprising me that they said new clans will be FLC

Rik being back is good and all but didn't he say he only did some of the tracks? Plus while he's a good composer the original bloodlines ost was done while he was out of rehab sleeping on a friends couch and broke as shit.

It'll be great if the game features Witcher 2-like branching story-line depending on your alliance. You start of as a thin-blood and in V5 Camarilla rewards fledglings with a 13th gen vampire if they prove their worth to become proper vampires, haven't read the Anarch expansion so don't know how that works in that part.

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Nothing, besides the fact it absolutely feels like a ": Part II of IV" while simultaneously abandoning all the established characters and loose ends from DX:HR. Additionally the story will never be finished so it's very unsatisfying.

DX: A Criminal Past was a return to form but nobody played it.

he said it was an hours worth, I think

Isn't it okay to do it to a kindred with a bloodhunt on them? You could have the MC run into one who just barely managed to escape from a group of kindred and are weak enough you could take them, though they're still tough as shit.

I did, the prison DLC was so good it made me pray the studio gets their chance to end the trilogy.

Since you have to choose a clan, Camarilla might give you a list blood hunt targets to choose from and depending on your selection you end up being that clan via diablerie at the end of the questline.
> A thin-blood who manages to commit diablerie on a “true” Kindred absorbs not only their power and spirit but also their lineage, turning them into a 13th generation Kindred of their victim’s clan. The Camarilla occasionally dangles this prize in front of dusk-born who show themselves capable of running the dirtiest of errands and surviving, offering up a Cainite sentenced to a Blood Hunt as sacrifice.
From V5 rulebook.

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How come LaCroix doesn't even attempt to fight back against you in the end?

It looks bad, what the fuck were you thinking ?

It probably makes sense in the world considering the makeshift tech guns probably have more recoil or for balance purposes or just they didn't think about it at all and i'm reading too much into it.

You just took out his pet gorilla, I wouldn't bother laying a finger. I don't know really

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Hyped? DUDE IM SO FUCKING EXCITED.

I mean, ITS A GAME THAT SHARES ITS TITLE WITH ANOTHER GOOD GAME. That makes me so god damn hyped man you have no idea fuck I CANT WAIT.

The title is basically the same as that other game made mostly by other people with the exeption of one of the 4 writers (who seems like a cuck who wanted to get laid by that other female writer) except it adds the number TWO at the end of the title so FUCK YES IM EXCITED.

and all I've seen is that drawing of a guy sitting with some neon light HOW CAN YOU NOT BE HYPED MAAAAAAAAN god finally a game with the same title as that other game I liked (even though it's noname devs who made shit games before) WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, how about you TAKE THAT old jaded Yea Forums pessimists, WERE GOING HOME fuck YES it has vampire the masquerade in the name that means ITS GOING TO BE GOOD YUP YUP.
I
AM
HYPED

are you okay user ?

Are you saying I should get excited for product?

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Wish we got to know Nines a bit better

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No theres no fucking gun that has a recoil pattern like that pistol. Its fucking unnatural. Guns DO NOT work like that.

>way more dialoge

this is not a good thing. its either self indulgend or quantity over quality

Pre-ordered the moment I saw the IP was the same as the IP from the 15 year old video game I liked.
I simply love this IP! This IP can do no wrong.

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none.
enought with this self induglend bullshit. mkae somethign that stands on his own and doesnt need to pander to nostalgia fags

You start off as a caitiff for the tutorial section and then you join a clan and gain their abilities. They haven't confirmed anything on whether it's Diablerie or a Blood Bond Ritual, but they basically want new players to play around in the game a bit before deciding what clan to pick.

>How do we entertain the oldfag incel market
>Wow Classic
>VTMB2
>Cyberpunk

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Nothing about the Malkavians themselves is wrong, even through a super social justice lens, the only thing wrong about them is the descriptions of their curse being madness. You could just say they have super synesthesia or are overly metaphorical and talk about the angular gyrus in the brain.

Well they showed a gameplay demo to press, but it was all tutorial thin-blood shit. So i imagine we'll get to see that at E3.

DESTINY
FLYING HIIIIIIIGH ABOVE

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JUST ANOTHER DAY
THE SHAME IS GONE
I DON'T BELIEVE IT
THAT I'VE LET IT GO

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Based.

DESTINY, can't replace my life
Scary shadow of my past, are alive
DESTINY YYYEAAAAH who cares as it turns around
And I know that it descends, with a smile

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Rik Schaffer is back working on the OST so I have a tiny bit of hope.

One of the few games where I watch the credits screen despite having seen in dozens of times.

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>community outreach manager
...Is this fancypants business speak for message board shill? Serious question.

niggas can i just download from gog and install the long night and that's it?

Yes, GOG's version comes with the patch that makes the game playable already installed.

I hope the game has the same leveling systems, no need for large xp numbers to make brainlets feel like they are winning.

informative niggas

>I hope the game has the same leveling systems
Why wouldn't it?

Good luck, pal

That's the fuckin' truth. Still fun though.

>lesbian vampires
>that's bad
faggot

Reinventing the wheel for modern audiences, luckily Mitsoda is lead so I doubt much will change.

I don't think modern audiences care about a 10+ year sequel to a cult classic cRPG.

I want some goddamn gameplay. They've been silent after the announcement

Yeah, I have no idea what paradox are doing but this is fine.

>had a lesbian black female Assamite
>egyptian
>black

>The lore for oWoD also had a Tzimisce who was originally black
>Byzantinian
>black

>Rudi
>good guy

it won't be filled with The Matrix references and that makes me sad

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>>Made a Trump joke
OH NO! Call the UN security council, we must to stop this anti-semetism, it's like a second holocoust

This but unironically.

LoK?

Legend of Krystal? Hmmm...

>Dead of Night
into
>Deb of Night
whoa

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>tfw radio and tv are back
I hope nu-deb is comfy.

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Give me 47 minutes of unedited gameplay and I might consider getting hyped

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V5 seems like garbage. Diablerie is fine now? Jesus what the fuck.

It's not fine, everyone is going to distrust the PC.

Legacy of Kain.

This.

It's not but the things have changed significantly and Camarilla is no longer the same Camarilla after a great portion of the kindred population got wiped out. It became a very small club of kindred looking out for each other, rather than assuming everyone to be a member.

does the original game need any patches or anything to run on modern machines or is it just good to go

What bad has he done?

If you get the GOG version, you're good to go; if you get the Steam version, you'll need an unofficial patch.

shouldnt he install the long night?

What's that?

A night that is very long.

Bloodlines 1 feeds you XP for every mild accomplishment the character achieves. It doesn't matter if it awards you 2 XP or 200,000 XP if the effect is the same. It's why the player character makes such a massive leap in ability in a seemingly short period of time.

Is bethesda capable of making nothing but Fallout 3's?

Probably for E3.

No third person, no buy.

>-t.

The first area is tideous. After that it is pure gold.

First time i am having concerns in a sequel bc of the developers. The titles they worked on and that we did not see any gameplay till now is not a good sign

I'd say this is where I am about as well. I always reserve myself for when I see actual gameplay though.

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Why didn't he just run or jump off the fucking window? Faggot.

Too expensive for what you get. There's like two games I'd really want to get for VR at this point, and it personally isn't enough for me to justify spending the 300 dollars for goggles and a new camera and the like.

>Fan-favourite characters from Bloodlines returning
Hoping it's Beckett.

More Voerman sisters would be fun as well, but I guess they'd want to avoid characters that can "die?"

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THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE FUN OF TRUMP

It's Jack and you know it.

The PS3 had better than that.

I honestly wish that modern games would be less afraid of going back to more oldschool or stylized graphics. Especially if it means that the characters would be more animated and expressive.

The extra little detail of a smirk or glare, or an actual hand animation, brought a lot of charm to the interaction in Bloodlines. And I worry that more high def visuals and a big cast of characters means we'll see a lot less of that.

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I miss the 2000s era liberals, the 2010s suck.

WHERE IS THE MINORITY REPRESENTATION!!!

Nooooo how can this be

>The first game had lesbian vampires
Where?

That has everything to do with the Source engine.

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Pisha

good goy!

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OMG YESSS!!!!!

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Finally finished
I accidentally opened it because the stupid Malkavian choices confused me

Why does he look so smug when he knows he is just a furry?

Oh, I only now just got that.

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>after a great portion of the kindred population got wiped out.
Oh shit, is this what canonically happened in 2004? Shit.
>am a writer for the next V5 book

Not really. First game was a 6/10 on the whole.

Haah ha haaah!!
He opened it!
Look at him! It's the "opened it"-guy!

Why would you pick Malkavian as your first playthrough?

Jeanette and V.V. are probably bi.

>& mental illness representation

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Why wouldn't he?
It's the only way to get the true malk experience.

Relax. It just means Malkavians aren't literally vampire crazy people anymore - Dementation links you into a subconscious Malk hive mind and the junk signals from that hive mind pollute your brain and make you act crazy. That's all it means.

Because you won't appreciate most of the stuff you say except in retrospect.

Fair point.

I accidentally opened it because I didn't want to willingly give the key to Lacroix and tried to choose the final option in hopes that I could just take the key and leave him to bleed out.

I can see why they wanted to end the story with the big reveal, but it seemed a bit counterproductive to just hand over the key when I still believed that the sarcophagus could start the apocalypse no matter who opened it.

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She right about the dick mods, I can't get a good one so my skyrim porn does have a dick clipping out of the back of a head during a blowjob.

That's the point, the pieces fall into place later and then it hits you that you were warned all along, and by your own brain no less.

On the second playthrough you know too much, the magic is gone.

>Sequel to a SJW game is also SJW
Imagine my shock.

>be anarchs
>have a baron you must obey

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>Mention this
>They flip shit

Holy shit. This is some pre-alpha footage right? Full game can't look this bad right bros?

>trannylines 2

>Kain from Legacy of Krystal
Kain crash lands into a scaly village? Shit never ends well whenever "Kain" and "village" are in the same sentence.

Do you think he says "come on in" if you start a "knock knock" joke?

>be camarilla
>actually vampires not flowers
>be sabbat
>use elevators on saturday
WHAT THE FUCK THIS GAME IS TOO CONFUSING

Camarilla is the beta alliance players.

Sabbat is the chad horde.

More like "kaboomin"

Honestly I can't help but view Andrei as a total dork knowing that he uses VHS and listens to talk radio despite acting and dressing like a Lovecraftian cult leader.

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>uses VHS and listens to talk radio despite acting and dressing like a Lovecraftian cult leader.
I would too if I could just eat people who laugh at me.
Probably tried to exchange fax numbers with Deb off-air.

Heh, Jack-in-a-Box, I get it.

>Hordefag cannot let go of a series that hasn’t been good for a long, long time
Yeah, ok “chad”

I was never sure what the original VHS was actually for. Was he making a snuff pitch video for his dark machinations? Was he going to start a recruitment website to bring in evil minions?

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If I’m dumb enough to not download the unofficial patch, what’s the worst thing bug this game will throw at me?

Honestly the "choosing your gender pronouns" thing doesn't bother me as much as long as it doesnt come up outside of character creation. Sims 4 sort of has a similar thing. But by god it'll be lame if an NPC asks for your fucking pronouns.

bros, does anyone have that character sheet showing free points found during the gameplay?

Same as old people. Put it on VHS and then forget about it. It keeps them calm.

You can't interact with something you have to interact with because it's now a potted plant. Or a boombox. Or something else.
That, or you crash to desktop whenever you transition to a different level and have to make use of a console command to transport yourself away *after* you've done what you have to do at that location.

Pretty sure you can't progress the game past a certain point.

Breaking Masquerade everytime when he sees skinhead, despite the Second Inquisition

2/10 Hype, current info could go either way, waiting to see and hear more.

is there something that thin bloods don't fuck up with?

why on earth would you want to do that?

BEAR AND THE BULL was Avellone's.
Almost everything good in New Vegas was written by John Gonzalez.

Do these bugs show up far into the game? I have yet to crash or run into any issue beyond one that happened in like the first 5 mins which went away after reloading. I’m about 2-3 hours in at this point

I was dumb enough to get this on steam and have not yet run into enough annoyances to get me to stop being such a moron and go figure out how to install the patch and change the Steam settings so it doesn’t fuck it up

>1555537106501.jpg
it's kind of funny that Malks, Brujah and Gangrel have better female models than Toreador and Ventrue

0/10 I washed my hands on VtM the moment 5e dropped.

V20 is okay but Onyx Path is hardly better then nú-White Wolf. Absolutely no desire to play as a not-vampire thin-blood in an anarch dominated setting where there is no Sabbat and the Camarilla have collectively gone retarded beyond all limits despite getting rid of every elder on the planet.

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I have a lot of respect for the fact that the countdown timer was consistent. Hollywood never bothers to do that.

I was looking through some Revised edition books last night and finally realized why V20 bothered me so much. All the artwork is colorized and not very well. The old books only had black and white artwork.

Just played through the Grout Mansion, this is a really good gaame, loving it. When you get on the top of the mansion and can see the town below, and the houses on the hill, aesthetic and comfy af

Yeah, he said that score was basically written at his lowest point and he couldn't even begin to write from that mindset again.

Is this one of those "not really a flaw" flaws?

>not really a flaw
>Inquisition literally nuked most of Tremerewith zero casualties
It's kind of funny since Rudi doing a thing which caused original Anarchs rebellion

Enjoy it while it lasts. The game turns into combat corridors at the end. If you haven't already, I highly recommend dumping some points into combat orientated skills. You'll need them.

I have like 30 XP, didn't needed until now. Thanks for the advice

Vampires dying is hardly evil tho?

The specific point the other user talked about is right around 50-65% -ish into the game. The bugs show up once you've spent a large amount of time with that save/with the game running.

>letting your rage get the better of you and endangering not only yourself but the rest of the Kindred in the process
No, it’s one of those “for the safety of our species, we may need to put this guy down” flaws

Not really, he had some outstanding stuff but other parts written by Avellone, Sawyer and so on were great too, the game just comes together really well and the different pieces are all great.
Gonzalez lately wrote on the mecha dino game that was SHIT.

Sure but that’s kinda besides the point. If you want to play with that mindset, every vampire should just walk into sunlight.

>People trashing Avellone
Reminder that the best RPG of all time was directed and written by Avellone.

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Ah, sounds annoying. Well, I’ll need to figure it out eventually

I hate coloring outside the lines with this kind of stuff because I have an innate talent for fucking something up and making it even worse

Hi Shill

>Being excited for a game makes you a shill

So since game takes place in Seattle can we expect non-retarded Anarchs?

>I have an innate talent for fucking something up and making it even worse
Just keep two saves, with one save being overwritten after each level transition. You definitely will figure it out once you see it, that one specific bug will consistently trigger.

Nah it's going to be dogshit guaranteed, the first game was a magical unicorn and barely anything compared even when it first came out, let alone today amongst the shitheap of nu-developers. I will literally bet on it. In fact yeah, I'm gonna go do that now, I am going to go bet money with the lads that it will be dogshit, need to think up some kind of objective standard though, reviews and "I didn't like it" aren't good enough.

God, 00s/early 2010s memes have not aged well at all.

>barely anything compared even when it first came out, let alone today amongst the shitheap of nu-developers.
*blocks your path*

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alright fine that's the other good rpg, but my point still mostly stands

the problem is that back then such things were inherently considered nerdy and embarrassing so you acknowledged that and looked past it for the laff, memes were secret clubhouse partially because of this, but nowadays the internet is serious business and people take memes face value so looking back at all that shit seems cringe now because people miss the point, which is why [s4s] still filters out reddit so well. late 2010s culture is so bad even the memes are too casual.

could this be the birth of a new epic meme?

I love the view from the Hollywood graveyard

The one from Griffith Park is also great.

I agree that memes used to be mostly centered around "need culture" but memes are better than ever, despite how identical they all are. Everyone gets the joke, unlike before where if you blurted out "IMMA FIRIN MA LAZAR" you'd be put into special Ed.

>But that's the point of a meme
Nah, the literal definition of a meme is an idea spread amongst everyone. Memes only mattered to a small niche of people before, now even memes have reached meme status.

That too, too bad the werewolf keeps chasing you around not giving you time to enjoy it properly

I killed him with a fuck load of time to spare.

There are some good signs but there are some red flags. I’ll hope for the best but prepare for the worst

>VtMB twitter announcing something
>it's another fucking interview with some faggot from Paradox that no one cares about
>when asked about showing gameplay they just say "later in the campaign"

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Yeah the “no gameplay shown” is a bit of a red flag

It pisses me off that this is something they plan on showing only very later on in their marketing campaign, but fucking preordering 3 different editions of the game on day 1 of revealing the game is a-okay.

I wish the graphics were slightly stylized like bloodlines 1 was

I always pump Firearms because I love blasting in the ventrue tower with my Steyr AUG john wick style. I hope the guns feel great in the sequel