Any games that have a great start and plummet towards the mid-half/end? I need to know so I can avoid them.
Any games that have a great start and plummet towards the mid-half/end? I need to know so I can avoid them
Logan Davis
Bentley Roberts
Relationships
Ryan Stewart
Persona 5
Easton King
Dark Souls 1
Matthew Harris
Dark Souls, Anachronox, Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines are the first three I can think of. It's a pretty common in games. As developers feel pressure to finish the game due to time and budget, the later stages tend to suffer.
Zachary Miller
AC Unity
Ayden Perez
Fallout: New Vegas
great game, you should still play it, its just that the endgame feels really rushed and is lackluster, they had an excuse though, 18 months of development time, its quite impressive considering the amount of content in the game and the amount of possibilities with the choices you have.
still though, the final quest was surprisingly underwhelming and moved so fast..
Owen Gutierrez
a lot of good games that i like do actually
Tyler Torres
>tfw still liked the second half of dark souls
seriously whats wrong with it? yes its not as pretty as the first half but it's still fun except for bed of chaos honestly fuck that boss
Lucas King
Chrono Cross.
Adam Miller
Ashi ruined the whole season. Prove me wrong.
Hunter Young
Why don't developers do the latter stages first?
Grayson Hernandez
Inner jacks were the most kino part of the show
Andrew Rivera
MGSV.
Leo Young
Lacks the strong polish and design the first part had. Feels like they ran out of budget the second half and had to rush everything.
Ashi herself was okay. The romance out of nowhere and the last few episodes throwing all buildup and pacing out the window were what ruined it.
Xavier Rogers
no
Isaiah Morris
Xenogears, but that wasn't really their fault.
Noah Roberts
If Ashi never existed, how could Jack go back to the past in the future?
Colton King
I'm still mad.
Kevin Wright
Another example that romance is shit tier fiction, I personally hate it in videogames too.
Owen Morales
Xenoblade 2, although it didn't start out great.
Parker Foster
This if they had kept things more master and student with Ashi having to decide between Jack's way and what she was raised to believe things would have felt a lot better. Instead we got half a season of a 70 year old man creeping on a girl who had never left her house before right before killing literal trillions through time travel fuckery.
Dominic Cox
For the same reason Ashi made it as far as she did into the future.
The timeline just fixed itself.
Austin Brooks
>4th episode release is replaced on April Fools Day by non-stop Rick and Morty episode
>the 4th episode is also where the season went to shit
Were they trying to warn us?
David Mitchell
Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare. Fantastic fucking PS1-era survival horror adventure game, starts out strong, has the weakest final 1/4 of any game I know, holy shit.
Aaron Butler
i came here to laugh at video games not feel sad about my life
Hunter Thompson
The earlier parts of the game are the ones that will be demoed for marketing and experienced by the players first.
Jordan Bailey
I'm more sad about the ending. By going to the past and defeating Aku there, the future was erased, including all the friends he made.
Easton Martin
Wind Waker and pretty much every Zelda that actually has a main plot (So no Majora's Mask or BotW)
Jaxon Roberts
I will never not be mad.
Jack Green
I was in denial when this was revealed thinking surely they wouldnt kill him and that plot point off.
Im still upset
Josiah Fisher
Not to mention it directly invalidates at least three different episodes where Jack made the decision to stay behind to protect the people of the future rather than take the ride home.
Jose Ramirez
literally bullshit ending
>she vomits up a fucking time portal
waowwwww so fucking creative, what a fulfilling ending that provides closure to a beloved series with many seasons!
Henry Hughes
>First 3/4s of Wind waker are pure kino
>"Okay, now go find the 167770343 pieces of the Triforce!"
I've restarted the game three times and stopped at the point every time. I just lose interest when such an incredibly large and tedious goal is placed in front of me so suddenly.
Christopher Price
Jack should have stayed and become King Jack.
Brody Bailey
unless i'm mistaken, the comics that got made after the series was initially canned follow the plot of Jack and not-Morpheus to its conclusion, where Jack becomes the warrior king seen in the prophecy. I haven't read it but something tells me it's better than the shit we ended up getting.
Jeremiah Perry
>The Scotsman gets all of about 1 and a half minutes of screentime through the entire season
what fuckstick thought that sounded good on paper
Mason Martin
Huh, thanks for reminding me of that user. Now I'm not sad anymore! I'm just pic related now.
Nolan Roberts
>long awaited finale of a series is horribly disappointing
Why does this always happen?
Carter Reyes
>all of his friends are dead including his best bro the scotsman who helped him through thick and thin
>doesn't give a fuck and decides just to mourn one woman he only knew for a week or two
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Bentley Bennett
The comics also had a issue or two where jack and the Scotsman got their gender swapped
Anthony Garcia
could be worse, the series could meander for like 5 extra seasons more than necessary.
looking at fucking you Weeds
Luke Gutierrez
Adrian Clark
EVERYBODY LOVES SOMEBODY SOMETIME
EVERYBODY FALLS IN LOVE SOMEHOW
Brayden Torres
Im still in the "Jack should accept the past is past and make the best of the future" defense force.
At least it was better than a TTGL ripoff ending.
Many of the season 1-4 episodes hint at the whole "jack, let the past go, it wasnt your fault". Also he deserved a better ending, considering the general tone of the entire series.
Camden Diaz
Benjamin Barnes
Ryan Collins
DS1 having a stronger first half makes NG+ something to look forward to. DS2 and DS3 are the opposite because they're so backloaded.
Easton Ward
There wasn't enough time to flesh out the relationship.
also I like how everyone got upset that the future was erased even though that was THE ENTIRE POINT
Angel Perez
>endgame
I think the problem is that there's not a whole lot of "Endgame" besides the couple of quest to get whatever faction you're in
Hunter Morales
Vtmb has a shit start.
Zachary Myers
Them killing spirit jack was the worst thing they did, with killing the scat bot being the second.
Anyways, I feel like they did the best they could with one season, it's just that since Samurai Jack takes it's time in showing action and stuff, it didn't feel right for it to be so rushed. It should of had two more seasons instead.
Carson Jackson
Persona 5 was the opposite for me; everything up to 5head girl was boring to slog through. That being said, the penultimate boss was a crock of shit and the final boss was boring until you end him.
Charles Morgan
There's quite a few anons here who feel the same user, as you can see.
Jose Young
Xavier Cook
I sort of expected it since it’s based on Jap shit and those fags have a tragedy fetish.
Ian Taylor
Fuck off, Season 5 was great jackass
Blake Ramirez
>The romance out of nowhere and the last few episodes throwing all buildup and pacing out the window were what ruined it
Fucking this, and i know for a fact the reason they made it like this is becouse the comic ending was already perfect and they knew they couldn't do it again
Owen Cruz
Oh God I hope The Clone Wars will be good
Luis Gonzalez
Kys.
Zachary White
>Samurai Jack comics
Excuse me?
Carter Ramirez
No it fucking wasn't.
Matthew Martinez
>all the sexual metaphor and subtext in this ep
it made my brainis the big brainis
Ayden Jenkins
masterpiece
Jonathan Rodriguez
The "Hey Arnold" movie was fucking perfect.
Levi Murphy
>undoing the thousands of years of aku tormenting the Earth wasn't the plot point
common now
Thomas Adams
>and undo the future that is Aku
The emotional toll of wiping out everyone's existence was Aku's last stab at Jack.
Blake Moore
Sonic 1
Connor Jackson
I never understood why he bothered to spare Ashi when he went out of his way to kill every other sister.
Jaxson Moore
>game has amazing demo
>buy game
>get pass the point the demo ends at
>quality of the game is a gradual decline all the way to the end from there
Why did you have to do that to me Prey 1.
Brayden Murphy
i totally forgot about that one
was it good?
Jayden Rogers
As a previous user stated, there were at least three chances where he could have gone to the past by damning the people in the present. He chose to save those people. Which is now meaningless since the future and everyone in it are erased. All those times he saved everyone, all those portals being closed, should have led to Jack moving on from the past.
William Thomas
I unironically loved the beginning of Indigo Prophecy, but the pacing of the latter half of the game is so batshit crazy it's hilarious.
Angel Taylor
see
William Hall
You know there's always one exception to every rule right? The Jungle Movie is pretty much the only sequel/revival/continuation of a beloved classic that pretty much did everything right. Although the plot twist at the end was retarded and nonsensical, but nothing in Hey Arnold ever made sense anyway.
Jonathan Williams
They fucked up the art style in it though.
Eli Howard
Final Fantasy 6
Benjamin Morris
Yes, comic, there was one after the previously thought to be final season, the ending had all the things anons were craving for
Hudson Jenkins
A single episode caused a cascade of asspain across both Yea Forums and tumblr.
Based Genndy
Dylan Hughes
Jack allowed his sentimentality get the better of him. But by forgetting the past he would have damned potentially billions of people in those thousands of years until his arrival in the future. It would have been extremely selfish, thus not in Jack's character.
That really was the final test: overcoming his attachment to the future.
Asher Reed
the end of that episode didn't show how Jack didn't end up going through that time portal, it was kind of a dick move from the writers
Jordan Thompson
Justin Peterson
a better ending would've had him trying to weigh the lives of all the people that currently exist vs all the people who would've existed, and existed in a much safer Aku-free timeline, having him ultimately choose one or the other. instead we got romance fanfiction with someone's shitty OC.
Easton Martinez
Yeah, going from a psuedo-supernatural murder mystery to the LITERAL FUCKING INTERNET attacking with flying Matrix combat?
What the actual fuck!?
Adrian Butler
Quit making up excuses.
[AS] gave Genndy more episodes than originally requested and 13 episodes is more than enough time to wrap up an episodic series.
Ethan Clark
Because apparently they wanted to go for what this user said and wrote themselves into a corner.
Connor Turner
I don't think Genndy could do this if he had wanted to. He spent a decade of his life being asked
>"what's up with jack? is he ever gonna get back to the past?"
and probably thought there was a majority of people who wouldn't have been satisfied with a future ending.
William Baker
I think people were just upset that we got a TTGL rip-off where we're supposed to mourn a girl we met just a few weeks ago and don't even get a whiff of what the new future looks like and if the characters that we actually fell in love with existed in some form.
Cooper Roberts
I could easily flip this back on you just by replacing "future" with "past". I guess we'll forever be at an impasse.
Brandon Ward
i wasn't fond of their overall romance, but this moment was fucking great.
its really weird looking back and realizing i actually did see an ending to samurai jack. its already happened and still doesn't quite seem real
Dominic Hill
They don't exist anymore, that's impossible with a linear timeline. They only exist in jack's heart and mind (and the fans').
Also fuck off with that weeb shit. There's nothing taboo about telling a similar story. If we removed every derivative piece of fiction, there wouldn't be much left.
Aiden Turner
>Genndy interview at Comic Con 2016
>"We're going to have season 5 be something we've never seen in western animation."
>s5 premiers
>turns out to be just like those other tween action shows from 2010 to 2015 that focused more on shitty rushed romance plots
Eli Lewis
hmm can this please be a high budget featured film
Nicholas Wood
What could have been done better anyway?
Austin Jackson
Not making Ashi a love interest, for one.
Andrew Watson
And yet for some reason he thought it was a good idea to do two of the shittiest things a series can do:
1. Having an inconsequential timeskip
2. Focus more on a new OC and less on established side characters
Noah Baker
The thing about Aku is that he should of had more then just 1 episode to build up his death. After all that time, his death was too quick and too easy. The consequence of losing Ashi was nothing because it's to be expected since she was literally a part of Aku. His death could of been some kind of awesome 4 episode special to really go out with a bang but eh whatever. Fuck it, kill him within the last 5 minutes of the last episode.
Joshua Edwards
You guys are literally getting it backwards, because of the irony of the situation.
Jack going back to the past is the exact opposite of living in the past, he's focused on making a better future for everyone. Everyone he fought for and saved will live on in his memories. Choosing to live in the future means he can't move on due to sentimentality.
Since Jack is a hero, it makes sense that he would take the selfless choice, no matter how hard it is.
Julian Perry
The magic of poorly written time travel and ignored causality.
You cant even claim the series has no causality because Ashi died because of it.
Jeremiah Hernandez
youtu.be
Not retconning this episode.
Jackson Gray
“THAT’S FORTUNE COOKIE NONSENSE!”
Alexander Thompson
Why'd they have to do Amon so dirty? He was an interesting and threatening villain with a decent justification, then they threw it away for lolbloodbending angry guy.
Matthew Jackson
I wish that it was a little bit longer to give the different side-characters a bit more love, but it was still genuinely nice to have the story wrapped up after all these years.
Zachary Miller
>tfw want a new Big O season because while I know the guy who originally wrote it likes unorthodox endings, that shit in s2 clearly wasn't meant to be it
>now worried I'll just get disappointed by it
Michael Edwards
Thimbleweed Park
Play it once so youll know how dumb the developers are
Brody Russell
This is not a selfless choice you literal tard. It's morally grey at best. They are erased from existence. There's not even a soul. Either choice involves making a sacrifice so get off your high horse already.
Jaxon Allen
Charles Wright
right on
Lincoln Adams
I've enjoyed the game a lot but many people from the metagen community say persona 5
Benjamin Fisher
You are disgracing literally anyone who fought on the behalf of Jack by refusing to go back in time.
You fundamentally don't get it, because you do not want to move on. They are not erased from existence; because Jack is still alive. They gave him meaning and the ability to create a better future.
It is simply not a choice for someone like Jack.
Gavin Miller
>tfw waiting for a DVD set containing all 5 seasons + full soundtrack
Any day now
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Carter Reed
Is aku even chaotic evil? He just looks and sound like a chaotic neutral to me
Angel Jenkins
Actually killing Ashi.
Oliver Hernandez
Jack killed billions of people and spit on their lives, struggles, and hardships by going back to the past and erasing them from existence. The series explained multiple times that Jack going back to the past while failing to save people in the present would be morally wrong and an admission that they were meaningless.
Brody Harris
BioShock, beyond fort frolic the nosedive in quality is so rapid it's jarring
Christian Butler
In what strategy for anything would you ever lead with the shittiest part. If the beginning is shitty, nobody is going to invest into it
Jacob Scott
Don't bother, he'll just respond with the same answer.
Matthew Lewis
If fucking hope this isn't true because I'm playing it right now and so far it hasn't been amazing, I just went in the volcano.
Jason Williams
Yes, he's just a troll so it isn't obvious.
Dylan James
>Jack killed billions of people and spit on their lives, struggles, and hardships by going back to the past and erasing them from existence
This is what he's doing by staying in the present. They literally suffer for nothing.
>The series explained multiple times that Jack going back to the past while failing to save people in the present would be morally wrong
Doesn't conflict with anything.
This could've been presented in a morally grey fashion. But it wasn't, because life with Aku was that bad. There wasn't allies turning on Jack with a desire to live; no they supported him in his quest to end Aku.
At the point in time where Jack has the choice to go back into the past, the future (and everyone he's met, fought with and against) IS represents his past.
You are a sociopath
Jeremiah Anderson
>Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines
It's not so bad if you expect it, you get to spend the whole game building up an armory and a suite of skills with nothing really to spend it on. Then you reach lategame and get to murderate to your unbeating heart's content.
This on the other hand is fucking retarded, Downtown is by far the best zone in the game.
Noah Bennett
"I'm not crazy, you're crazy!"
Daniel Thompson
Extremely. Aku is basically the Dark Eldar without the sex.
Colton Campbell
so i was watching all of big O recently and i came upon a great revelation that opened my mind
you know how everyone is looking for answers to what happened 40 years ago to explain what the fuck happened in the plot?
well, it's exactly the same thing as how all the characters in the show were looking for what happened 40 years ago.
the show is 100% meta, you're just like the characters, looking for memories that probably were never there. Roger finds meaning and purpose in the first episode of season 2 in being Roger Smith regardless of who "Roger Smith" really is. The entire show is brilliantly meta, but it wants you to just enjoy it for what it is, the same way the people of Paradigm should just enjoy the lives they had and not dwell on the past.
Blake Rogers
you're in for a bad time, then
hope you didn't play chrono trigger, that's the only way it could be even worse.
Anthony Morgan
In the earlier episodes he is chaotic evil, but as time goes on, to keep the story going, he starts to become a goody chaotic neutral
Logan King
goofy****, not goody
Luke Martinez
>le funny villain trope
Jackson Parker
>Comics?
>EXCUSE?
Kevin Edwards
Dota if you pick Undying.
Colton Sanchez
>They literally suffer for nothing.
Bullshit they suffer for nothing, their very existence justifies their struggle to live. To say otherwise would be to insist that all life should be ended to stop the literally infinite suffering it's continued existence will perpetrate in the future.
>Doesn't conflict with anything.
Of course it does you mouthbreather, because it means that the vast majority of the series is pointless and that standing up for moral value in the face of hardship is wrong.
>no they supported him in his quest to end Aku.
In their own world. In which, by the way, Aku probably killed fucking everyone after Jack left.
>the future (and everyone he's met, fought with and against) IS represents his past.
No it doesn't retard, it represents the present, a world worth fighting for where people everywhere have come together for a common cause, a world where people value being alive. By going back to the past, Jack effectively said their lives were meaningless.
Charles Ortiz
>people still think Jack should have stayed and not reset the Future That Is Aku
>in a context where this would have meant literally billions died for no reason, Earth is full of crime and violence, and the galaxy is full of refugees
>shit that is literally beyond Jack's power to fix
The real problem with the ending was that time constraints left the second half feeling wholly unsatisfying - you go from the final battle against Future Aku to Jack standing under the tree in like 6 minutes tops.
My dudes Aku did horrible shit pretty much constantly and tormented people for no reason, and even though he had plenty of comic relief in the last season he still just fucking massacred people during the battles. Just because he's a playful jackass certainly doesn't make him any less pure evil. Pay attention.
Hunter Torres
Why is anyone fighting on Jack's side user?
Jordan Howard
>decade old poops
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Levi Russell
OP Picture unrelated of course.
Blake Phillips
heh underrated
THEY SING THE SONG OF DEATH
Caleb Jones
What the fuck does dirge even do outside of annoy people during laning?
Xavier Nguyen
Because they value their own fucking lives and the lives of those they have attachments to. You think any of them care about some fuckers that were enslaved to Aku a thousand generations ago? No, they care about the present. They care about not just an end to their suffering, but about the possibility that they can create happiness for themselves in the future.
If all they wanted was an end to everything, they'd just kill themselves.
Joseph Davis
>its a "shitter thinks going back in time and fixing the future is somehow better than staying in the future and staying there" episode
Grayson Thomas
Have an ult that looks very creepy and very funny at the same time.
Kayden Hernandez
He's a an annoying tanky teamfight hero.
Tombstone alone can win teamfights.
But since mid-late games are decided more by ganking, killing and farming he only shines in a teamfight.