”It’s not censorship, it’s localization!”

>”It’s not censorship, it’s localization!”

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just by imagining how censored mother 3 would be if nintendo published it in english makes me deperssed

The only people that say that are faggots and lawyers.

>"It unironically looks better!"

even if nothing was censored, you would still complain over something like the accents in modern DQ games

>it's not censorship because it's a private corporation

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I never knew gurotards were alt-righters.

Who the freak enjoys porn with gore? And I don't mean the good kind like JAV flicks.

Oh yeah... freaks do.

It's not. Suck it up.

It's not constitutionally but it is social censorship. While not illegal, it is real shitty.
This is fundamentally different than choosing not to host something you don't like on your own private resources. It is much more akin to disallowing a product with a theme a group doesn't like to the masses which is much more akin to public domain as opposed to private resources - being the United States.

>it’s not literally against the law, therefore it’s okay

Who are you quoting?

It is if the corporations collude to deplatform someone ala Alex Jones.
Funny how coming together to discuss pricing is illegal, but coming together to completely shunt someone isn't.

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Was it censorship or localization?

lmao just make your own social media platform that won't silence conspiracy theorists.

Fucking right-wingers I swear to the flying spaghetti monster

>"It's ephebophilia, not pe-"

>I should be allowed to fap to CP.

It's never going to happen because of families. Enjoy your NEET life.

I don't know if you're serious or not, but regardless this argument falls flat on it's face when the president of the United States is making statements on Twitter.
Not only that, but companies colluding to deplatform someone and banks telling paypal not to handle money from certain people is alarming as fuck

Censorship is unironically good, seethe harder

Freedom of association exists, you do know this, yes?
A private company doesn't need to host views that run counter to their own, and are no responsible for providing a platform for all views.

This is why you don't put all your eggs in the huge corporate basket: They actually don't have to tolerate you, and can turn on you if you're obnoxious or extreme enough. Private companies are not public domain, whoever told you such is either lying or ignorant.

B-But Hitler!

It's funny that you don't think there's a solution.
The internet was not always a monolith, you CAN use other sites, or host your own. With your own servers and everything.

>-nis

First of all, the fuck are you talking about
Second of all, that doesn't make me any less right.
I'm completely certain that you need to reread that post and take the time to process it in its entirety in the context of the OP.

>”It’s not censorship, we are just taking this game away from you if you say opinions we don’t like”
>”It’s not censorship, we are just going to have you fired and blacklisted for disagreeing with us”
>”It’s not censorship, we are just deplatforming you on every social media site and preventing you from forming your own sites because of 1 vague threat that we normally would not care about since we disagree with us”

>JUST BUILD YOUR OWN INTERNET
Shut the fuck up boomer

fuck off discord tranny

So what happens when bank cut off your ability to fund it, like what happened to Gab?
Or if domains simply refuse to host it?
Please tell me what can be done when every site colludes to take down an ideology and then banks swoop in and tell Paypal they can't deal with the sites they make?

Just make your own payment processor so you can actually make your own social media
otherwise paypal is gonna deplatform you

congrats OP

It's funny how commies are now the biggest defenders of free market. MasterCard HQ should be burned to the ground.

eff.org/free-speech-weak-link/

>just make your own money LMAO

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>fucking a 17 year old and fucking an infant are literally the same thing
lol ok

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There are many small, light weight solutions to this, and I'm certain if your cause is passionate enough, it would fund itself. Thats what the lefites did, creating software like Mastodon because they disliked the rules of Twitter. Funnily enough, it's a system that's near impossible to be censored on because it's non-central. Likewise with PeerTube, Diaspora, and other such sites, that I'm guessing you don't know about the existence of.

If all else fails, you can try not having mass shooters use your site as a home base. That always works.

Wow, when your ideology aligns with the zeitgeist you don't get censored!?
That's fucking weird man

>mfw the free market is dead and we will soon bear marks of ideological compliance to buy and exchange things

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is a redditor. During my time justifying my dislike of reddit and using it for roughly 3 weeks, I got into a thread about exposure. Literally the vast majority of redditors were all for completely shutting down and disallowing all information they were uncomfortable with to everyone. I tried making a counter-point to allowing the individual to garner their own deeper understanding of the subject to make a more informed judgment on it.
I was shit on and downvoted so hard, got all sorts of retarded head-in-the-sand arguments like
>you don't need to be seeing any of that, that's why we have scientists
>m-muh slippery slope
>muh confirmation bias
>muh emotion-based convictions with scientific and anecdotal results contradicting it
This wasn't in regards to censorship of entertainment media, it was in regards to something else. But they unironically want to classify citizens by their walk of life and chosen profession to determine their level of access to non-sensitive information. It's retarded just how emotionally driven reddit is, and the lack of apparent intuition they display.

What is legal =/= What is morally right and what should be accepted in society.

Massive Monopolies like Google and Twitter CAN legally delete your accounts or skew algorithms to ensure certain searches are not found, but the SHOULDN’T and it’s IMMORAL to do so. And there SHOULD be legislation against such acts because it creates a dishonest world trapped in an echo chamber, which goes against the entire point of free speech.

Defending the actions of censors, even if they are private, is supporting a world where dishonesty is discouraged and no real discussions ever happen.

Hell, you only defend these mega corps like YouTube since they are censoring people you don’t like. You would probably be flipping your shit right now if it was the other way around, and YouTube took down left leaning content with inconsistent rules.

That sentence is tecnically true, but that doesn´t make it any less shitty.

>Wow, when your ideology aligns with the zeitgeist you don't get censored!?
Oh you're silly! Just as expected of your sort, somehow knowing less than your "enemies" about the medium you rely on to get your message across!

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When the pendulum swings, and it will, hard.
The boot will be on your neck, and won't leave until you're dead

>Every force in the country is trying to prevent you from starting a website because of your beliefs
>”””Free Market”””
>Not sucking off Google and Disney 24/7 makes people commies

>You would still complain about shitty localisation rewrites
Sure, why wouldn't we? People being opposed to censorship naturally want the product to be butchered as little as possible.

Someone post the comic
You know the one.

It's retarded how much influence they have on your exposure to information. Whenever I try to search for some scientific article or data regarding ANYTHING with psychology or sociology in regards to race or sex, I'm flooded with SJW propaganda. Hell I could just be looking for some specific porn and the first 2-3 pages will be flooded with how women need to be empowered and strong. It's utterly ridiculous.
Too bad I'm not a scholar and don't know where I would be able to find a reputable place to read about studies and unbiased assertations nor a porn scholar and know of a reputable place to look at porn in an unbiased manner

>You would probably be flipping your shit right now if it was the other way around, and YouTube took down left leaning content with inconsistent rules.
Frankly I would probably thank them, as the two-party-tango stuff is usually the worst things to watch. Otherwise I just watch stuff about games, because I like games more than porn and slacktivism.

I do understand your point though: It IS bad that only a few people have so much power over the methods of communication. The internet has been taken over by a handful of companies, and has suffered for it. I actually agree with you there. What I want is for people to stop relying on the same few sites to do everything, and I find the cries of censorship annoying because I know there are other ways to do what you want to do, it's just that the folks who cry censorship are often too lazy to ever try.

private companies are jews that deserve to be exploited by the masses into the ground. None of them have rights and all of them should burn.

You have all the power in the world.
And yet you still can do nothing about your internet foes.
Your words are hollow, your means are nill, and when you try to rise up, you will cringe and cower away from the reality of your desires.

The keyboard warriors are all cowards. Even I, even you. Why do you think you-know-who went to a country with so little crime?

>HUFF HUFF
I don't know why that's what made me lose it. My fucking sides. What is that filename in reference to anyway?

Here's your localizer bro

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He's out of breath.
Also, despite being only 13% of the population, niggers account for 50% of violent crime, oops! They're onto me! Gotta dash!

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The sad thing is Trump promised to fight social media censorship...and then went back to whining about Democrats on Twitter. It could cost him 2020 if he doesn't act soon.

>Corporations are above the public
>Corporations are above the law
>Corporations control the media
>Corporations control politicians and lobbying groups
>Corporations have monopolies
>Corporations regularly collude with one another to snuff out competition
>They are allowed to do anything they want cause they are not the government

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I want to fuck the gorgon sisters, that includes all 3 versions of Medusa

Yes, we live in a CyberPunk distopia, with less transhumanism. Are you only now becoming aware of this?
Perhaps actually suffering consequences to your actions woke you up to how things have been for the past decade?

>Reported my post in fear
I'll rise up as many times as needed, you're scared of us, you always will be

Actually these days I'd think it wouldn't be as heavily censored. It would get a T rating though.

Corporations aren't breaking the law by taking shit off of their private platform. Back when the Internet was far more decentralized in terms of media consumption, this wasn't a huge deal. But basically everyone relies exclusively on youtube, twitter, google, facebook, and shit like that often never being exposed to anything else. They're so big that ideological discrimination on these platforms SHOULD be illegal, as they are much more often than not devastating to information propagation, and are allowing exactly what the constitution intended to prevent.
Unfortunately the writers of the constitution had no idea something as massive as the Internet would exist, nor the massive monopoly on information so few private organizations would have. Because it is not illegal, they are able to do so much shit you are saying, and that is unethical as fuck. However, they're doing it because they're allowed. It isn't illegal, and maybe 30 years ago, that wasn't a problem. But now it is by the fundamental nature of the economy and even the differing ways the businesses now conduct themselves; that is, if they don't like it it's wrong and it's okay to discriminate against it.

Naw bro I didn't touch it.
But then again, do you know who "I" am?
I can be a dog for all you know.
Woof woof.

Actually, corparations ARE breaking the law.
supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/326/501/

I'm not saying its illegal to deplatform somebody cause they said a naughty word off the site and still getting in trouble for it. I'm saying that corporations are literally above the law and create them as they see fit. Dump shit? Bribe. Kill somebody? Bribe. Get caught with tax fraud? Bribe. Can't bribe? Just pay a small fee then!

>It is if the corporations collude to deplatform someone ala Alex Jones.
If he's spouting easily-verifiable, untrue bullshit and actively defaming others with baseless conspiracy theories, yeah, he can fuck off. Anyone who unironically believes anything he says should be gassed on-sight because they're too fucking stupid to continue wasting oxygen. And he still has multiple platforms.

I just want to taste Demiya's dark chocolate body. Why does Albert hate black people?

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>Call someone a cocksucking faggot.
>Some limp wristed cuck will shill to get you deplatformed
Wow dude

Problem is their are bigger and more trusted fish doing the same shit but get away scott free cause "Muh free press"

>Call victims and survivors of mass-shootings paid crisis actors, with zero proof whatsoever, despite the fact that their fucking school records are public information.
Yeah, that's straight-up defamation.

Just stay on /pol/.

That has only a loose resemblance to what we're talking about, but no practical application to it. Now if there was a case where Wal-mart was told they weren't allowed to disallow certain books from being distributed on their premises, that'd be much closer. Or people being in there and passing out ideological brochures inside them.
That case has very, very loose grounding in this situation. This is VERY far from a municipality, don't ever think otherwise until deemed by law

such as

Oh you mean in general. In that case, yeah, it's pretty bad.

>"Wah Wah, no more anime titties! Who gives a fuck? Have sex."

>Words hurt muh fee fees
>Ban him
Lmaooooooooo, you even advocate for people that disagree with you to go somewhere else, god I can't imagine the kind of shit people around you put up with IRL

>If he's spouting easily-verifiable, untrue bullshit and actively defaming others with baseless conspiracy theories, yeah, he can fuck off.

Not everything he states is untrue. And even if he was, it's not a crime to state untruths. The US protects all forms of expression regardless of their truthfulness. If it didn't, the entire population would be in jail.

>nah fuck you he's a garbage human being fuck right off

Nobody cares if he's not your cup of tea. You don't have to listen to him. Other people can like things you don't like.

>someone defames a known con artist (Alex Jones)
>WTF THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!
>someone defames someone you don't politically align with
>hahaha based

>Literal defamation, libel and/or slander, by definition
>muh hurt fee-fees
lol you're so fucking stupid it hurts, freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.

Move to Japan if you don't like it. Expecting cultural norms to change to suit your personal tastes is fucking stupid.

Saying the sitting president is colluding with a foreign nation after 2 years of investigation providing no proof is defamation, retard

Mad cuz bad?
>MUH FEE FEES

>Expecting cultural norms to change to suit your personal tastes is fucking stupid.
tell that to the people censoring games

At least I'm not mad because a criminal got punished lmao

>it's not a crime to state untruths
libel, slander and defamation you fucking moron

>easily-verifiable, untrue bullshit and actively defaming others with baseless conspiracy theories
Well then it should be easy to find the court documents that prove it, right?

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You know very damn well what I mean. If I bring it up not only will a bigger shit show start but I could be banned for being more off topic then what it already is. And if you still don't get it you are a fucking brainwashed monkey or extremely stupid, possibly both. And when I do bring it up you are just going to defend the shit out of it screeching no its not. If you need a hint it has something to do with an old and dying format.

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>criminal
There's that word.
Alex slid into the deposition and is going to dunk on the prosecution, how does it feel to know he's going to be exonerated and your main problem is gonna be "I-i-it may not be illegal but it really hurt my feelings!"

Its not defamation if its true, this is basic shit here

Rock throw is a nahtzee tho
Oy vey didn't you hear that pebble Toss did a racist?

>freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.

Who says it is? The criticism is that the consequences are disproportionately severe. There are people who believe 9/11 was an inside job, or that there weren't really any people inside the planes because they were cruise missiles. Never did anybody advocate for these people to be deplatformed and unpersoned into oblivion.

Because those thing implicate a right wing president, you fucking nazi.

>Report specifically says it did and could not exonerate him
lol keep telling yourself that

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>it looks better anyway!

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>libel, slander and defamation

We're not talking about libel, slander, or defamation. You specificially mentioned "untrue bullshit". And even if this was about defamation, the government can't send people to jail for it. The target of defamation can sue for damages, and the courts can order restitution, but the government isn't in the business of throwing people in jail for defamatory remarks.

Oh, so because they refuse to drop it (Despite clearly having 0 proof, otherwise they'd persue a case) it means he's guilty?
That's some retarded logic considering they'd offer a king's ransom to the first person to dig up anything incriminating on the guy

>State that shooting survivors are crisis actors and didn't attend the school in question with no proof and nothing that suggests proof may exist
>While their school records are publicly available
Yeah, its defamation. Plain and simple.

j-list is fucking autistic

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>Prove my conspiracy theory wrong, and I won't believe it!
>The Liberal Media!
>Crimes aren't crimes!
Woo! You guys have to have something better to defend your boy with, yes? Alex Jones got de-platformed for good reason, and the fact you have to writhe around it and lie just shows how weak of a figurehead he is.

You MUST have stronger figures to rally behind. You're having trouble because you're defending people who by any standard, are scumbags.

Chink video games are not relevant to public interest and the people who buy them are already weebs who want them to be as Japanese as it's humanly possible.
"Localization" is just yet another pathetic attempt by video game companies to "reach a wider audience but still please our long time fans :) #inclusivity #diversityisourstrenght #BLM"

>Crimes aren't crimes
You have to be convicted of a crime to be a criminal buddy, you win the court case and public opinion means zilch, sorry you have no grasp of how the law actually works bud.

>If he's spouting easily-verifiable, untrue bullshit and actively defaming others with baseless conspiracy theories, yeah, he can fuck off.
Great! When are the loony muh russia leftists being kicked off the air and blacklisted from the entire industry now that it's been thoroughly debunked?

Unironically better than the original

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>Despite clearly having 0 proof, otherwise they'd persue a case
You're so fucking ignorant it hurts, holy shit

Law says a sitting president cannot be indicted. Report laid out all evidence for and against, and specifically said it could not exonerate the president on obstruction among other things, was passed onto AG, then to congress to make the judgement of whether or not to start impeachment proceedings, which would ideally result in removal from office and charges being filed. That's what the law says.

No one should be deplatformed. It's a fucking stupid thing to do.
Stonetoss is still a turbofag though

>>Crimes aren't crimes!

What Alex Jones did was not criminal. It simply got him into hot water with a bunch of narrative-controlling activist assholes who revived the issue in the wake of their recent efforts to push their gun control agenda. His statements were from 2012. He was banned from twitter in 2019. That's not an indication of being served his just desserts, that's an indication of revisionist hysteria.

I'd figure "Treason" and "Colluding with a foreign state" would be grounds for immediate impeachment if there was any evidence on the matter, and there isn't this "U can't do nuffin to the president" is a crock of shit and is merely a vehicle for your retarded stance on the matter.
You lost, you'll continue to lose, and will never taste victory.
Stay mad, scum

>He was banned from twitter in 2019.

Whoops, 2018.

The people who whine about translations are always the ones who watch the shows illegally. It's actually Japan who provides the scripts for simulcasts.

Censorship is sometimes necessary to make a game stand on a specific market. When I localized an RPG for the US we HAD to remove nipples and we decided to rename some towns and cities because their original name just didn't work in english.

Examples: A River called "Lemon" a city called "Jerking". A race called the "Black Skins". These changes are necessary even if you don't like it because otherwise we'd face huge backlashes in the US, in this example.

those are civil charges levied by an individual against an individual based on specific claims of an action's consequences, not criminal charges levied by the state against an individual based on an action itself

you moron

>Spout literal bullshit for years, including, by DEFINITION, libel, slander and/or defamation

>It happened a few years ago why are you making a big deal out of it nao :(((((

I though that is the original?

>Its easily proven hes lying and committed a crime!
>But I won't actually prove it despite being so easy
Ok retard cunt fuck :)

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It's not

>BUT IT'S HARDDDDD

>Freedom of association exists
It hasn't existed for over 50 years.

>I'd figure "Treason" and "Colluding with a foreign state" would be grounds for immediate impeachment if there was any evidence on the matter
Did you read the report?

No, of course you didn't.

How are you gonna react when they go after Abby?

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>wanting the direct literal translation/localization
Japanese is a very literal language, it wouldn't be translated to English properly just like Spanish, are these people legitimately retarded?

>Its a DIFFERENT crime so i doesn't count!

Oh, you managed to glean information off of it government officials that literally want Trump's head on a stick didn't
Hit us with it big man, since you're so much smarter than the rest of us and clearly not in COPEnhagen

i love it when people call people 'right wingers' or 'left wingers' as an insult, it's like they legit can't understand that it's not an insult and nobody knows what emotion they were trying to evoke or even what they were trying to say

>Spout literal bullshit for years

Once again, not everything he says is bullshit.

>including, by DEFINITION, libel, slander and/or defamation

The matters of defamation are being appropriately adjudicated by the courts. Twitter didn't ban him for defamation. It banned him because he's too hot of a property for them. Jack is under constant fire from hysterical fascists to ban undesirables from his platform, and whenever he finally capitulates, they act like it was just Twitter exercising their free discretion as a private enterprise.

Once again: you can "spout bullshit" without it being illegal. You can say critical and even untrue things about somebody, and the government won't restrict you. Jones is a fringe element, but not a criminal.

A mixture of "I told you so :^)" and "OH NONONONOKNONONO"

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truth

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He's right though, defamation is defamation and goes against most social media's T&Cs, hence he was deplatformed.

It's that simple.

Do you really want to undo half a century of civil rights legislation and court rulings just to "own the incels"?

Face it Yea Forums, you're counter-culture. American culture is now majorly against all forms of nudity and sexualization. Leaving those in ports of Japanese games would just not fly in today's America. This is what localization is: making a product conform to a culture's sensibilities.

I'm still fucking mad about Crunchycucks removing the touch feature from that Danmachi Gacha game.

Yeah, but colluding with each other and banning someone for breaking ToS on another site is fucking retarded, he's not representing Facebook by posting on Twitter

It gets really dumb when people accuse you of being a pedo for dating an 18-19 year old. Hell I even see it get thrown at guys who date early 20 years old despite being in their late 20s or early 30s.

>Face it Yea Forums, you're counter-culture.

Gee, that's a really insightful observation.

If it’s untrue, then why would there need to be censorship against him?
It’s like how the Holocaust is true, yet you can’t question anything about it.

But he cross-posted between them, meaning that he was sharing defamatory material, which is also against the T&Cs.

He wasn't banned for defamatory material.

So how about Paypal