Can we all agree that DbD is the best 4v1 ever made?

Can we all agree that DbD is the best 4v1 ever made?

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yes
with randoms it might be frustrating, but it a fucking blast with friends.

I really hoped Last Year The Nightmare would snatch that trophy, but now I just really hope the devs die a horrible death.
Never got into DbD, it's too competitive, but yeah.

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Playing with randos on ps4 is infuriating. Everyone just accuses everyone else of cheating. Nobody uses gestures. Kids always rage quit. It's a fucking mess.

Best game ever. Fun fact if you use DS or Noed your dick is small

>it's too competitive
I don't think so man, you should give it a try.
it's definitely frustrating a lot of times, but when not, it's delicious (at the beginning you won't understand shit and will get your ass fucked every single game until after a couple of hours you start to undestand how it works)

only played on pc so i can't compare, but i guess it makes sense. but the DCs are indeed happening quite a lot frequently, it's very frustrating.
as I said, with friends it's a guaranteed good times, but that feel when my friends are too jewish to buy the game

DS has been fixed, and I don't see the problem with noed.
YOU JUST HAVE TO BREAK THE TOTEMS

DS has been gutted and NOED was never a problem

Don't play it on console lmao

Oh I for sure have a ball even when i can only get one friend to play with me, from my experience playing with randoms though, it is either great or a shit show. I found that i have way more fun as the killer when i am going solo.

I am 35 and have never owned a pc

>it is either great or a shit show
haha couldn't have described better.
I usually play until I get so frustrated at a match that I close the game afterwards.

>the balancing nightmare that is DbD
>best 4v1 ever made
The entire existence of Legion is a goddamn war crime, and his supposed "rework" might as well remove him from the game entirely with how crippled he'll become. It's about as much fun as it is flawed.

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The balancing is fine. The issues come up from the game not clearly explaining what each survivors rolls are supposed to be.

As a person who played this and last year as a way to somehow actually get my 4v1 fix, I think Last Year is vastly superior. Dead by Daylight is far too simple and survivors are at such a huge disadvantage to the killer. Not to mention the generator minigame gets so tedious and tiring as game play. At least you can fight back against the monster in Last Year instead of just running away and finding a different generator to sit by for another ten minutes.

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this
the majority of the problems are for playing on random
for example, the noed problem can be solved by people comunicating and telling how many totems have they destroyed/where is the hex, etc.
the legion problem happens because people don't know how to play against legion. for example, people waste too much time healing agains legion, when you aren't supposed to heal.

Their "rolls" might as well be not explained because the difference between survivors is so minimal that unless you're playing in a game where everyone has all the perks you might as well be playing all the same character.

"Oh boy! 5% faster healing? Clearly I'm in the healing role"

Figure it out old man.

You're a goddamn idiot. I've played this game on PC for near 3 years. Disconnecting, accusing the killer of whatever just because he won, etc. is a huuuuge problem on PC. Survivors when they lose, even if you don't "camp" or "tunnel" will invent new grievances. "WRAITH NEEDS A NERF" no the fuck he doesn't he's literally low tier, "YOU GEN MINED US" no kid you left 3 close generators it's your own fault. "PROXY CAMP" ... no i just trapped up the area, and that takes a second....

*first time downing a survivor*
DISCONNECT

*last time downing a survivor*
DISCONNECT

*find a survivor who obviously hid in a closet*
DISCONNECT

You have to put In 100s of hours before you can share perks

Consoles are not much better. The problem with this game isn't the game, it's the players

I know and even then those perks are minimal improvements to things that everyone can already do. There are no roles in DbD only slight number changes depending on who and how you want to play.

I think we can all agree it's the most frustrating game ever made

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What the fuck are you saying? Have you not played against Legions? Do you not realize how stupid he is as a killer? Nurse herself has been problematic but they can't touch her until they tackle the clusterfuck of what the game is on a base level, but Legion completely removes the necessity of game knowledge and replaces it with inevitability.

And their response to constant complaints about Legion? Gut him so hard even the people who like him will no longer want to touch him.

I don't disagree with what you're saying about there not being rolls, because that's true, but I don't think perks are as minimal as you make them off to be, either.

A survivor with We'll Make It and Botany Knowledge will heal others after a hook rescue at close to 250%. This is anything but minimal. They can literally heal another person up in about 5 seconds, and this is without a medi-kit. Add in Borrowed Time for good measure and you have a survivor that can almost make a safe hook rescue if the killer is doing anything but face camping. A person with those perks could be considered a healer role, but it's really more their choice than the game ever requiring someone to do that.

And then there are similar perks for other people if they want to do objectives (Prove Thyself, Leader) or being chased (Lithe, Balanced Landing, Mettle of Man). Again, it's not a roll per se, but these are very powerful perks. And with only 4 perk slots available, you basically have to pick and choose at what you'll specialize in, at least to some degree.

rolls = roles, I'm an idiot and can't type

Awesome, I can't wait to try those next free weekend after I load another 80 hours into the game, gimping myself on non-legendary perks while I wait.

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It's okay. I wish there was more counter play against the killer. It's very annoying when there's no palettes around and he just happens upon you first. There needs to be a middle ground between this and F13th where you can bully Jason.

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The real question is why do so many girls play this game?

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I laughed so many times at deliberately breaking a generator to attack the monster player then running away and watching him as he has a tism spasm looking for me and my fried 4fert away as we watch the stupid cunt, or better yet keep running round same tree and then into barricades then waiting for killer before throwing one on the cunt, love this game for griefing killers, I prefer griefing killers more than playing the game properly

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Didn't mean attack killer meant, love trolling with breaking generator then running off and watching killer spaz out from a safe spot while I keep doing same generator wrong on purpose, rinse repeat, too funny, or when me and my mate bait killer to the exit while it's open and keep running towards exit till he backs off then back towards the killer, think I did this for 40 mins before the killer just let us exit and win hahahaha

Are you that bad at this game? I don't even use anything other than passive powers and jump straight into generators, you just sound bad mate, you can easily hide from the killer abusing his shitty fov in fp mode, kys

The thing is 4v1's are inherently flawed. Typically the boss/killer role is just a player serving as a sort of AI, and they are typically only allowed to win when the team makes a certain number of mistakes. If you are really good and make no mistakes, the boss/killer will lose. Flip side is that it takes skill to be good as a team, so in your average match, the killer will dominate. So what you see is killer's crushing survivors in average matches, but killers being stomped at the highest levels of play. The killer really has no way to outplay you, and you just have to hope for mistakes. Fortunately for most killers, most people suck and make mistakes. It doesn't help that the game is marketed via twitch as bully a killer simulator, when only good players are able to actually do that.

How can you easily hide when you're doing a generator and the killer comes after you first?

Of course! I can hide too! That's easy, but not fun. I want to run over and push the killer, smack him over the head with a pipe or stun him so a friend can get away. Not just hide and hope he goes after someone other than me.

You don't find it funny when a random does generator with you then you purposely break it then run off and watch from a distance as the rando is raped and dies? Or just keep running into areas where the killer can only follow you till he quits because I'm so good at avoiding him? It's so fucking funny when you troll killers and don't actually play the game, I just use it as a way to let off steam, plus the xp you get from baiting a killer back and fourth after a match is amazing

The way to win as killer is to only loop gens that are somewhat near your hooked person and tunnel if they get released. This is unironically foolproof unless you are playing against SWF.

You should be afraid of the killer and not vice versa. lol

Or pick the witch woman with ai decoys or the bell dude with the invisible rape powers and you win instantly

No, I kind of like teaming up in my team based games, but Dead By Daylight encourages you to fuck over other players and just be out for yourself.

You sound beta as fuck and I don't wanna play games with you, it's literally all the game has to offer besides shitty qte spamming on generators

What a bunch of grindy bullshit that favors killers.

It's another barbecue and chili, ruin, noed and nurses calling episode oh boy

Or learn to mindgame and juggle between survivors. I've never understood how people think they need to camp and tunnel as killer unless you're playing extremely shitty killers like Freddy or Legion. The amount of times you can end chases by just manipulating your red glow alone is insane.

You are 100% still working as a team though. You have to have a dedicated pallet looper on your team to understand fully how this game works. He is typically the one to bait the killer.

griefing killers is playing the game properly, it's also why this game isn't fun

Don't need that, you need to know how to hide from killers fov and use windows for maximum trolling and escapes, if you can't do these simple things you are tism and need a bullet, I've even solo won after 3 dead teammates

IDK, some maps require tunneling more than others imo. How are you manipulating your red glow? I play as Mike, I try not to tunnel, but I really have no counter against pallet looping. IMO, only the high tiers like Billy and Nurse can completely ignore tunneling.

Nice to know I have best time playing best way and you hate it, get that tism checked bro

I mean, you can 100% definitely do that too, but I just know many people who just rely on pallet loopers.

>4 premade faggots bullying 1 guy and screaming if they want to secure kills - the game
>best
no, but then again I don't know many 4v1 games to begin with.
All I know is evolve so there's not much competition is there?

Hence why I've been saying it's a shitty game and has shitty ways of being played. I played during a free weekend and bought Last Year instead. Bullying killers in that is so much more fun. Smacking him with a pipe, luring him into mines, chucking fire or pipe bombs at him and kiting him around turrets so he can't despawn and get away, trust me, I think you'd have a lot more fun with it.

What about invisible pedo demon with the bell? I literally main him only and won like 30 matches with him

God I miss Evolve, I really did enjoy it.

Pallet looping or any looping at all is cancer, if you can't find out a way to kill a player besides camping generator or pallets then you shouldn't play the game, same with survivors if you can only rely and win by looping then you are cancer and shouldn't be playing

>Play spirit
>Beads and amulet
>Everyone D/Cs
Thanks for wasting my add ons you shitty survivor bitches. I use noed and don't even give a fuck for reasons like this.

I play on the Legacy servers with a few friends and some people from the legacy discord, but I really do wish I could just hop in a game and play again instead of having to set one up every time.

>How are you manipulating your red glow?
Look the other way then 180 at pallets. They'll either get hit, or be forced to drop the pallet earlier than being looped till you catch up. Do the same at jungle gyms or the killer shack, but make it look like you're vaulting the window when you're not.
>I play as Mike
Ooh boy. Get monitor and abuse and use dead rabbit. It fucks your terror radius and people will genuienly run in to you. Tier 2 myers with M&A and dead rabbit is fucking absurd as they're in and out of chase all over the place and can't rely on it for any audio help.

Okay you sound like a top lad, been watching that game for a while is it basically same thing but better? Sound like hidden/l4d pvp with a bit of dbd, I probably would love it hahaha I love trolling killers in dbd, too much fucking fun

Wraith is pretty good against idiots.

absolutely hilarious the number of people who think the game favors killers when you can run circles around killers with NO perks at all on any map, like even 4 randoms can dunk the shit out of any killer with any perks as long as they don't play like retards, the game is specifically built for this to be the case and you still lose so bad that you complain, it's pathetic

>How are you manipulating your red glow?
Always look the wrong way you're moving at unsafe loops and windows. They'll often think you're doing one thing, to then spin around and hit them.

new update coming tomorrow looks fucking delicious

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Not tomorrow, PTB is. It'll probably be two weeks away at least.

I don't see the point of this. How will it change anything?

>All 4 survivors have DS, and mettle
>Complain about my noed 4k
Get fucked bitch ass survivor mains

Yeah, I mean the amount of times a retard thinks that I'm not following them when I attack then go invisible before stalking for my next attack is unbelievable, many times I've unvarnished and a silly cunt thought I was going invisible but was wrong and so I got free kills, wraith is god tier imo, if you can use him properly you can never lose literally

Yeah, it reminds me of L4D, plenty. Though, the player base is scarce, I'd wait until it launches on Steam in a few months or so since no one cares that it's on Discord only.

1.Legion is now solidly F tier
2. Survivors can now only teabag for 3 minutes instead of forever
3. Freddy rework

So are survivors still OP?

It stops survivors holding the game hostage, that's it. If it didn't slow the timer when people were sligged or hooked it might change the endgame. but it doesn't so it's nothing.
>Pig is getting nerfed due to this change too
Makes it even worse.

>wraith is god tier imo, if you can use him properly you can never lose literally
You've never been rank 10+, calling it now. Besides using your uncloak direction as bait he has nothing.

I was stoked for Collapse until they mentioned the Pig nerf, stupid Behavior catering to whinging survivor mains as usual

Yeah that's why I didn't and haven't bought it still because its dead on discord I bet, sound will pickup sometime on steam, sound lad, sound advice, gonna bed and cheers, I take back the tism insult, night bro

Yes.
>Hey we nerfed DS after 2 1/2 years
>Now here's this perk that lets you take free hits beccause fuck it
>Also we'll fuck audio again so killers randomly can't hear grunts of pain or footsteps

>find puzzle box on map
>find fountain on map
>hears a chainsaw
>hears a nurse screech
>hears humming
>hears a bell
>hears shock blast
>hears the Halloween theme
Literally anything will trigger a survivor to disconnect.

>Pig nerf
oh god what did they do

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Actually I'm past rank 10 :) not posting pics deleted from ps4 have none and going to bed but hey mb next time?

>Survivors are at such a huge disadvantage to the killer
Big oof

>Pig getting nerfed
What do you mean? I didn't hear about that at all.

Can you even cheat on console like what the fuck this actually made me laugh.

We don't know yet. But two of the devs on Twitter said she's being changed due to the timer and her whole RBT thing.
>ps4
Ah I gotcha now, I believe you dw.

As it stands, with the right perks and add ons, Pig would dominate Collapse so Behavior has mentioned that they're going to "rework" her traps, which is code for a fat fucking nerf as any killer main knows.

We don't know yet. But considering end game RBT is already strong, I can only imagine it's a hard nerf.
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The amount of times I have been reported for "lag switching" is fucking incredible.

"Survivors are at such a huge disadvantage to the killer" - if you're within the first 200 hours of the game and have no perks.

Sorry, I corrected myself

>tfw had a NOED + Bloodwarden build with Tampered Timer and Crate of Gears ready for this shit
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR, FIRST I GET A TEMP BAN FOR THE 2 KILLERS GLITCH AND NOW THIS.

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I fucking hate BHVR sometimes. Like it's so fucked to sell these characters for real money then nerf them to being unusable because they are too lazy to attempt real balance. They did it to Freddy, they're doing it to Legion and now Pig.

>play legion
>constantly get people to dc
2ez

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>horror game
>bullying the killer is a very common thing
I love it

OK that at least makes a little sense because you can lag switch on consoles. I thought these clowns thought you could use like a cheat engine on PS4. But yea anyone who can't tell the difference between real lag and a switch have never seen a lag switch.

I think I'm last rank 10 as survivor but stopedd playing killer as the dlc came out and can't afford, also I think I'm either a 9 killer or above and only play ps4 as my oc is too poor to run, nighty night user sweet dreams and hope you don't think I'm lying cos I ain't, if I had pics I'd upload

>someone saved my webm
Based and t-bagpilled

Dead by Daylight is my favorite flawed game. It's amazing fun when it works but boy oh boy is it unbalanced and frustrating as shit sometimes. It's really hard to recommend but I have about 220 hours in it over the course of a few years. It's a game that I'll get my fill of for a while and then keep coming back. Also, how's Ash?
>not making Ash the killer and the survivors Deadites
Missed opportunity.

They realized that survivors need a way to feel good at the game or no one would play the role. that's just how a multiplayer game is.

that used to be the doctor, what made legion so hated?
I guess it's because chases are boring like the nurse or something?

Only because F13 is 7v1. So if you set arbitrary rules, yeah.

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I play both, and I never get dabbed as hard I dab on other killers.
The learning curve is not newbie friendly tho.

Everyone runs mettle of man now so hes cool I guess

Legion has Z E R O counterplay and can punish you because a teammate got hit. He's also the best tunneler in the game hands down. Add to that he requires no skill as of now and you've got the worst designed killer ever.

>Last year
did the devs killed their own game by making it a discord exclusive?

sick game

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Nurse can be fun since stealth exists and you can use objects to block view. She also requires skill. Legion has no real counters since stealth is forfeit as soon as anyone gets hit, and easy as dicks to play.

What do those numbers mean in terms of quality?

I'm so sad this game was killed. It's pretty fun with friends.

Yea if you're good at killer you can make survivors regret being cheeky real quick which is always so rewarding. It will never get old when a survivor T bags me at a pallet then drops it on me only to find out I'm running Endurance and Spirit Furry on Trapper. But yea the learning curve can be brutal, I think that's why the game probably isn't more popular. It can feel really unfair when you don't get why you lost.

He has two broken machanics that make people DC as soon as they see him:
1. With two blade add ons he can stack the mend time to ungodly amounts making it near impossible to do anything, this is a bug
2. He can run a couple perks that allows him to slash a survivor, look away and walk backwards since the mend is dependent on being chased, so the timer runs out but Legion can still follow by walking backwards, this was an oversight on the developer's part

They're going to fix both of these things but they're also adding a ton more nerfs for no reason that completely fuck Legion. But hey, he walks a little faster so there you go :)

>the best game of the genre died
>fucking DbD was able to stay alive because it had a grind and was rushed out first.
Fuck this gay Earth.

I know what point you're making, but it's pretty hollow when you're talking about F13

Easily.
>Niche genre
>No real advertising
>Launches on a store most people don't even know exists

Yep I wanted it so bad till I found out about that, ashame
Love this for trolling killers but ashame it dead and cancelled in terms of anything other than bugs fixes n shit

>Dead by Daylight
>The balancing is fine
I have never once heard anyone say this before, and never thought I would. Everyone has a different idea on exactly *how* the balance is fucked, and what needs to be done to fix it, but thinking it's fine?
That is insanity.

What is noed?

>Your point is pretty hollow when it proves me wrong

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>legion rework
>endgame mechanic
>game is still a 3v1 fest
just fix the most basic thing on the game first you dumb frogs

No One Escapes Death, when exit gates are powered a hex totem spawns on the map and all survivors are afflicted with the Exposed effect until it's cleansed

No one escapes death. It lets you one hit survivors after all 5 gens are powered. A shit perk somehow people still think is good probably because they don't cleanse totems.
>game is still a 3v1 fest
They literally are with the same patch. Loading screen improvements and games will force end if it's a 3 man lobby.

A part of the next update is cancelling games that only have 4 players. You'll get full games or not at all.

Yep, what a retarded ship to latch onto. That and absolutely no communication or blogs or anything to maintain interest. They would have got even more of a cut if they just waited and put it on Epic.
>Hey look at this existing market where the games we're based on have a fanbase
>Nah but some dodgy Cali software yuppies have offered us a few Games
>Also fuck advertising and communication

>just fix the most basic thing on the game first you dumb frogs
three man lobbies are force closed now and you keep all offerings.

>The balancing is fine.
No. More than half the killers are a garbage fire in the top 8 ranks, playing as them requires so much luck and dumbshit mistakes on the Survivors part that you will lose most games. Survivors are basically pilled high with perks that literally break the game, with everyone running Dead Hard, Mettle, Adrenaline and then whatever the fuck they want. Even a complete retard can survive fucking up multiple times in DbD now, especially if they're SWF.

The balancing in DbD has been a slow crawling nightmare towards making killers actually threatening, and even with huge sweeping changes, Killers in the top 10 ranks still struggle to do well against a semi-organized team.

>it's been almost a year and half since they released freddy
>still no buffs
kek

I'm /assg/ best killer (not that it means much) feel free to AMA

He's getting a rework next update, do you fucks even read the blog

DbD lasted simply because you get to play as the killer. I played f13 for over 40 hours and got to play as Jason fucking once.

Legion is unironically the worst killer in the game though. Their pressure on the map is so fucking miniscule and they depend entirely Feral Frenzy to do anything.

>Gut him so hard even the people who like him will no longer want to touch him.
At least they'll finally be 115, which they should've been before.

No, quick rundown please?

Who do you main

And? Why should it take a year and a half to make a paid DLC character USABLE. People have very right to be upset especially because we are about to repeat the exact same thing with Legion.

Trapper is unironically the worst killer in the game though. His pressure on the map is so fucking miniscule and he depends entirely on Traps to do anything.

This game is shit and most of the fanbase seems to actively hate it.

That's all they really mentioned, details haven't been released yet.

all of them

I'm not defending it dude, I'm just saying that despite the complaint, the issue is being addressed.

>He's getting a rework next update
Just like DS, and optimisation, and bloodlust, and audio etc. etc. etc. Freedy's rework "next patch" really means maybe, potentially, possibly, this year.

>3v1
>killer camping and slugging the last guy just to get a 3k
why is this allowed?

Wraith and Freddy are worse. Trapper can at least shut down loops with his traps and certain add ons makes this much more feasible. Wraith and Freddy can do nothing against talented loopers even with their best add ons. Trust me, I love all three and play them a lot, Trapper edges the other two out just barely.

there isn't any other competition for asymmetrical games, FF13 got shitcanned because of copyright, Identity V is mobile only, and last year went to the discord storefront for some damn reason

Because you don't run the right perks, any killer aside from God Nurse can be defeated even 3v1

>he doesn't play to win

dumb scrub

>Trapper is unironically the worst killer in the game though
Does he require 7 seconds to hit people? No.

Because you refuse to do generators when a killer is camping. If you still have like 4 left at that stage in the game it's your fault for losing a teammate that early. You need to work with your team to prevent the killer from tunneling and camping.

I’m genuinely surprised a more talented studio hasn’t taken this genre and done something better with it. DbD is such an average game for a genre that has a lot more potential

> Wraith and Freddy can do nothing against talented loopers even with their best add ons
False. Spirit Fury + Enduring cover up for Wraith's shortcomings in a chase.

What's more embarassing
>play killer
>4man escape on shelter wood
>play survivor
>4k on lery against a billy/huntress

I just play to have fun, I don't even care about points, thanks for letting us farm but I really don't want to spend 20 minutes slamming pallets on you or crawling on the floor because you 100% need that 4k

He's not consistently bad. There's maps where he can excel due to his ability to prevent loops. Legion is consistently bad, everywhere. They have zero pressure unless all of the survivors constantly group up in one spot, and even then they'll just bully Legion endlessly while someone fucks off and does gens.

Legion is just too slow and their power is too shit, they're just annoying and easy to play because they can have consistent chases.

t. Someone that mained trapper until Pig released and then tried to main Legion before getting bored earlier this month.

Trapper is definitely low tier but he's still so fun to play as. He's the type of killer where you just have to expect to lose 4/5 of your games, but when that one precious game comes along and all the survivors are seemingly being driven into your traps like moths to a flame, damn does it feel good.

I played a game the other night where I never even had to M1 anyone. The survivors either weren't being careful enough and walked into a trap, or I started a chase with one and herded them towards a direction of one. That loud SNAP sound whenever a trap goes off followed by a scream never gets old.

3v1 matches suck for everybody and the killer just wants to get things over with without having to resort to DC'ing.

>YouTubers consistently rank Doc as B tier and leave out his ability to prevent survivors from hiding at all
Yamero

F13 wasn't even 1v4

as in they're dropping his rework tomorrow for a PBT along with the endgame breakdown and legion changes. I want to see how they changed him to not be a complete joke
but the PBT sucks donkey dick to play, and none of your progress transfers at all when it hits the game for real

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>DBD
>Balance
>Fine
I have never seen a game with worse balance, and that is coming from someone with 2k+ hours in DBD.
They are not touching nurse/billy because they know they are the only viable killers in the game and nerfing them would mean they would have to rebalance all the other killers.
Not only is the balance horrible but the way they are trying to balance the game is beyond awful.

t. low rank player

t. survivor main

to be fair, trying to find perfect balance in an asymmetrical multiplayer game is probably next to impossible

Hiding as a Survivor is a mistake 9/10 times, which is why he's bad. Doc is one of the worst chasing killers in the game, and while annoying, he's not very strong, especially now with Mettle in the game.

What boards do you think every killer lurks?

I mean, that's true of Trapper too though. Any killer can use those perks man. That's why I always run those on Wraith and Trapper. The issue with the Wraith and Freddys powers is they help you land your first hit but then you're going to get looped until you break enough pallets that they can't find one. Spirit Furry and endurance doesn't really prevent this. It will help every three pallets but again, that's true for both Wraith and Trapper except trapper can actually shut down loops with his power even if it's not great for it.

Spirit is also viable. Everyone else is map dependent or bad. Even then Nurse has bad maps.

/out/
/soc/
/fit/
/s/

*each

>That loud SNAP sound whenever a trap goes off followed by a scream never gets old.
Feel the same way. I don't know why but catching people in traps has always felt so satisfying to me in multiplayer games.

DS was left unchanged for 2 years. This is not about "perfect balance" this is about the devs being rank 15 survivor mains that have no idea about balance.
The point is, they know only 2-3 killers are viable and they are afraid to nerf them because they don't want to rework the rest of the killers.

>loop killer for 3 gens
>get the good ol' camp
feels good man, I live for this shit

premade survivor mode ruined the game.
I stopped almost right after they added Michael Myers.
Playing killer was hell with flashlight abusing pallet touring pieces of shit
Playing survivor was shit because rest of the team was always some premade niggers doing their tactical shit.
I literally NEVER went to rescue a person who did that stupid t-bag shit in front of killers

Fuck BHVR, fuck Mathieu, fuck the fat autistic community bitch, fuck the streamers, fuck the playerbase and especially fuck the retards who still buy all the DLC and cosmetics

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I mean you have to give them credit for how balanced it is for an asymetrical multiplayer game where you don't play both sides every match. That is pretty fucking hard, I can't think of another game that even tried this besides Friday the 13th and that game's balance speaks for itself. I do agree though with what you said about Nurse and Billy. I also agree that sometimes they make decisions that have no logic behind them.

You guys do run borrowed time on all survivors right?

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Might I add, the game's been broken for 4 months now. Infinite loading screens every couple of games and tons of 3man games.

Frank would have posted the janny murder on Yea Forums

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The problem with Wraith is that the Survivors need to play the game you want them to. You need to hit them, then pressure a gen, hit them, then pressure a gen. You can't chase into loops.

>The point is, they know only 2-3 killers are viable and they are afraid to nerf them because they don't want to rework the rest of the killers.
Agreed. I honestly don't see how must killers could be made stronger through. Like how can you buff Clown? His power barely even breaks loops, but if it were buffed he'd just turn into Legion-tier shitfest that wins chases with low skill plays.

>tfw diversion + DS
this combo is 100% guaranteed to make killers get mad when it works

i fucking hate it, i don't know why i still play this shit because this game makes me more angry than any other game

devs can suck a cock, theyre even worse than jagex

There are so many layers of bad balance in the game. Its not only the balance between killer and survivors, its perks/items/maps/offerings/teachables/SWF, there is so much stuff that they failed to balance in the 3 years the game has been out now.
Just because no game has managed to do it better doesn't mean that DBD did a good job.

>The point is, they know only 2-3 killers are viable and they are afraid to nerf them because they don't want to rework the rest of the killers.
I think they're more afraid of how the community would react actually. Or maybe that's what you meant?

>Devs keep focusing on this shit and not Jersey Devil 2, or even a remaster of 1

Do people still get buttmad if you camp hooks or teabag?
I miss people writing shit on my steam page

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*ahem
FUCK THE NURSE

absolutely

Yeah, there is no point in playing this game after the first 10 hours if you are not going to piss the other side

RANK KEEP RESETTING FOR NO REASON. i love this game so fucking much since day one but man is it laggy

>The problem with Wraith is that the Survivors need to play the game you want them to. You need to hit them, then pressure a gen, hit them, then pressure a gen. You can't chase into loops.
I'll admit I have never tried this but it seems like it would end with a lot of hits getting healed and the survivors making slow but steady progress on gens while you aren't getting any hooks. It's realistically not possible to constantly guess what generator other survivors are at and if you don't get to where they are fast enough gens will get done. Or is there a specific perk you use?

If you really want to piss off survivor mains just run noed, I get more salty bitches that way than anything else

I'm running WGLF and farm you free of charge.

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nice crutch perk :)

Link me that doujin famalam

You know what the devs told us when we complained that survivors were too strong? They told us to use Nurse and Billy. I am not even kidding.
They are aware of the fact that you use these 2 if you are actually trying to win and every other killer is considered handicapping yourself.
If they nerf them they would have to compensate by buffing other killers, so they just choose to have 2 killers for the tryhard guys.
They promised us a Freddy rework for 1 year now, hasn't happened yet.

>find survivors working on gen
>convince them to keep working on it while I stand around
>wait until they're almost done and chainsaw them all at once

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Boring pointless shit
But then again, yes, you're right. Because with a game so simple you can't go wrong.

>I honestly don't see how must killers could be made stronger through. Like how can you buff Clown? His power barely even breaks loops, but if it were buffed he'd just turn into Legion-tier shitfest that wins chases with low skill plays.
Yea I think this is the thing a lot of killer players don't realize. This isn't a game where you can make small number adjustments flippantly. It might end up making plays possible that weren't before and like you said, they might be too easy to pull off.

NOED is a no-skill perk that rewards faggots like you who can't put pressure on the survivors. KYS retard.

>playing nurse
>throw a dude on the hook just outside killer shack
>throw another guy hiding around the corner into the basement
>perfectly time a blink above the basement, directly in front of the outside hook as a third guy tries to make the save, getting a free grab out of it
My dick grew three sizes that day.

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idgaf, when you pussies stop running DS, mettle and borrowed time i'll give a fuck about the opinion of a survivor lmao

thanks for being my example btw

>Just mention noed and the survivors come out of the woodworks to bitch
Y'all are just proving him right.

>Just because no game has managed to do it better doesn't mean that DBD did a good job.
I think it paints a picture of how hard it is though. There's a reason that in say Left 4 Dead or CS you play both sides, it's the easiest way to balance. I also think some of the things you listed have no real solution. Like how would you balance SWF? The only thing I can think of is the old way where you weren't allowed to play a multiplayer game with your friends easily. I don't think that's a very good solution. But hey, you won't hear me defend shit like the maps, couldn't agree more there.

Mettle and DS are pretty easy to counter bruv

Don't have a link at hand, it's on nhentai. Just search "dead by daylight". There's only a few results.

So is noed nigger
Just cleanse dull totems lmao

Is buying the clown a waste of my money? I made the mistake of buying all the famous killers cuz I’m a horror fag. MM and leatherface are fine but the moment I hit rank 10ish Freddy seems fucking useless. Is the clown any good?

>I think they're more afraid of how the community would react actually.
BVHR is terrified of the Survivor mains community. Decisive was utter bullshit for almost two years, and I say that as someone who used it pretty frequently. Yet Legion was "annoying", not even good for a few months and they're getting shitcanned already.

Another good example is when Self Care got nerfed and BVHR promised to never nerf it again due to the massive backlash shitter Survivor mains caused, especially streamers like Angrypug and Puppers, who now openly admit that Self Care probably shouldn't even be in the game.

That's what I mean by they have to play your game. If they realize how you're playing and just start heal gangbangs you're going to lose. It doesn't help that Solidarity was added to the game for some dumbass reason.

>Or is there a specific perk you use?
Whispers + Surveillance or Discordance are generally what I run, then BBQ and Enduring or Spirit Fury. DESU Killers should be able to see what the map will be an prepare accordingly, but then a lot of Killers would probably start dodging since there's maps where most Killers simply will not get more than 1 sacrifice.

He is decent, probably top 5.

There's no proving right, it's a shit perk.
I spent most of my time as survivor cause killer lobby queue times are sometimes insanely long and I don't want to bother with that shit, but that doesn't mean I am biased. I enjoy playing killer more than survivors and there's no fucking need for NOED. If you're that inept, just uninstall the game.

>You know what the devs told us when we complained that survivors were too strong? They told us to use Nurse and Billy. I am not even kidding.
Oh I remember. In their defense they actually have been steadily nerfing survivors in general which I actually thought made sense to start with because then you are indirectly buffing every killer.

>They promised us a Freddy rework for 1 year now, hasn't happened yet.
See this is my real complaint with the devs, they take way to fucking long to implement things that shouldn't take that long and I'm willing to bet their schedule of 4 chapters a year doesn't help.

>Mettle
>Easy to counter
Yeah, just down the asshole and then camp him while everyone else finishes the game. What a great fucking edition for the already moronic list of Perks that Survivors have that let them fuck up relentlessly and still win.

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>ormound shitty color palette makes seeing auras near impossible
>entity blocking windows doesn't do shit
>infinite loading screens means most games are 3v1
i'm surprised the game even starts at this point

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Evolve

>current year
>STILL bitching about BT
look at this dud

You're bad at the game then, I can't speak for pipping right now cause they changed it, but I had 0 issues getting to rank 2 with Freddy last year. And that was without Ruin most of the time.

M1 killers have no way to counter MoM. It's the most broken perk to date.

>1.Legion is now solidly F tier
Still depends on his add-ons.
Cause if he gets some godly shit that actually makes him playable, he'll be more than usable.

>that one guy still claiming myers is top tier

>Whispers + Surveillance or Discordance are generally what I run, then BBQ and Enduring or Spirit Fury. DESU Killers should be able to see what the map will be an prepare accordingly, but then a lot of Killers would probably start dodging since there's maps where most Killers simply will not get more than 1 sacrifice.
Cool I'll try it sometime since I actually do like Wraith despite ho weak he is. I also wish I could agree about killers seeing the map but you nailed the exact problem with it. The maps really need to more balanced in general. If they were you could more easily implement this idea.

Cool opinion
Sounds like a survivor main to me, bro.

bamboozle is a solid perk IF IT WASN'T BUGGED FUCK YOU FROGS and clown as a killer is pretty solid, if you get really good with the bottles there's an add on that lets you instadown survivors

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You cannot defend the statement mate, you just can't.
You are trying hard but the devs are pretty incompetent when it comes to implementation and communication, the lead balance dev even admitted on stream that Nurse is unbalanced and survivors are broken.
I remember when Marth joined his chat and he legit asked him "What is the purpose of your experiment? What are you trying to prove?"

>that whole community claiming Bubba is low tier and Freddy is too

Epic, kill yourself you fat fucking nigger faggot.

>Feral frenzy instantly ends if you miss a hit
>has to be fully charged before you can use it
>can't get survivors to bleed out unless they're actual retards
i'm not sure add ons can save them at this point

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t. survivor main
Get noed'd in your next game chump

Save your cash and just buy Bamboozle and Pop Goes when it's in the shrine. I think Bamboozled is in the shrine right now. Clown is a boring M1 killer that experienced survivors literally run circles around.

Not even close. Top 5 is easily:
>Nurse
>Billy
>Spirit
>Hag
>Myers

Clown is bad in loops despite his slow because he has a larger collision box than everyone else because BVHR is retarded.

Being able to veto maps as killer would probably be enough.

haha, no. that's what the DC button is for you dense nigger. enjoy getting cucked out of kills

Lol this guy thinks the game favors killers.

You cannot shit on the clown with the loop arguement and tell me you think Myers is top 5. He is an M1 killer that gets instadowns from time to time.
Clown has an easier time breaking loops then Myers.

I'm holding out hope even if the odds are INSANELY bleak. What I expect is stuff to reduce Terror Radius like Freddy's Red Paint Brush so you can still chase Survivors without that bullshit.
The whole tweak to Deep Wound is also a stealth nerf to big terror radius Killers.
>Trigger Boysenberry Time
>If they get away, they're never bleeding out, ever

than*

Your English sucks LOL.

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>You cannot defend the statement mate, you just can't
God no, I would never try. Actually wanna know something funny, I didn't buy this game when I first heard about it despite being extremely interested because I heard the game could enter an infinite stalemate and I was shokced that was possible in a fully released game (this was after early access)

>You are trying hard but the devs are pretty incompetent when it comes to implementation and communication, the lead balance dev even admitted on stream that Nurse is unbalanced and survivors are broken.
No I know they make really incompetent decisions. Like I said though, it's not exactly easy to fix all the problems the game has. Some like map balance should be easy to fix and there is no excuse why it hasn't been fixed yet. Some things like balancing Nurse or SWF is not so easy to fix.

>I remember when Marth joined his chat and he legit asked him "What is the purpose of your experiment? What are you trying to prove?"
I actually understood his sentiment. If the devs already admit that the game is unbalanced what's the point of "proving" it. Like you said the devs openly admit to many problems so I actually agree, what was he trying to prove? Something the devs already admit to? Why spend your time trying to prove something people admit?

>messing around with perk builds the other day
>have an amazing flash of inspiration
>decide to see if Dark Devotion carries the Doctor's static field effect over to the obsession
>it actually fucking works
This is the sickest shit, it's like playing an entirely different game. If you stack terror radius extenders on top of it, you're practically hidden in a smokescreen of constant noise.

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I'm really hoping the Legion nerf isn't as bad as everyone's making it out to be.

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Shame it's only for 20 seconds after hitting the Obsession. Which is a fairly random scenario.

Trust me it is. The only hope is that they realize how stupid they are and don't push every change they discussed. Some were good ideas but all of them together is overkill.

>blood hunt in less than 2 weeks

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He's getting 115% movement. He seems good tbqh unless I missed something. Feral Frenzy is a free hit and now you don't get looped or 9 years due to 110% movement.

Considering you got kids graduating highschool that still don't know the difference between their and they're, you should be careful making fun of people on the internet.

That's pretty cool actually. I love when perks interact in creative ways like this.

all they had to do was get rid of moonwalking/mend bug but they decided instead to ruin them because survivors cried and d/c'd until they got their way
our only hope is that enough people say the legion changes suck dick so they are less harsh but I don't think they will

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The problem is that your "free hit" isn't free.
You're on a (hopefully lenient) time limit once you turn on the ability to hit the Survivor once. If you whiff, you might as well just leave the match and if you hit, you then have to turn off your ability, which stuns you for a while, and then you can go for the 2nd.

That's pretty damn neat. I wonder how Dark Devotion works with the lullabies of Huntress and Freddy. Most terror radius suppression perks don't do anything to them, but maybe DD would still make it carry over to the survivor?

Except he's kind of just a worse Wraith or Pig now. They should have made the range of his feral frenzy vision not reliant on TR and increased it along with not lowering feral frenzy move speed so that you can actually use that part of the power. The detection is pointless because if you are ever close enough to actually hit another survivor you almost always already see them already. In cases where you see them through detection but don't already see them you probably won't get to them in time.

Certainly easier with Doctor as opposed to other killers though, which is nice. It's such a fun synergy that I don't really mind the loss of overall effectiveness.

I'm not you retard, lmao.

What makes this better than Friday The 13th?

>all they had to do was get rid of moonwalking/mend bug
I also think making whiffing hits end Frenzy is a good change especially since it doesn't deplete the bar, just ends it. Makes him less brain-dead. Also they needed to address Frank's Mix-tape, that's the only time the survivors criticisms of him having no counter were accurate.

the devs are still giving it support and updates

Monitor and abuse is pretty good on freddy, his lullaby is always 24m but m&a reduces his dreamworld terror radius to 16m which gives you way more vision on sleeping survivors plus it fucks them too since they gotta worry about two different terror radius, or if you're running red paint brush as well, no terror radius.

Dark devotion will give you infinite wallhacks in the dream world for 20 seconds but that's about it really, not worth taking on him.

The devs make a vague attempt at actually balancing it. They don't do a good job but better than the devs of Friday the 13th are considering those devs aren't doing anything at all anymore.

after 100+ hours you're still not able to play most of the builds in the game

isn't that fun? grinding, grinding, grinding...

features and support like infinite loading screens and microtransactions for ugly cosmetics

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Lol what are you on about? XDDDD
It only takes 180+ bloodwebs (10 million BP) to get all teachables on 1 character.

My biggest gripe is the lack of additional game modes. Even Friday the 13th gave you multiple ways to win.

>its another swf group all with borrowed time and fleshlights

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Bad goy, no thinking, just buy more auric cells.

>whiffing should end feral frenzy
its called feral frenzy not meticulous approach
removing blood pools during it doesn't really make sense either but whatever

OwO I want a SWF group with flEshlights.

Spotted the braindead Legion player.

>bEhaviour briefly mentioned changes to the Pig for the Endgame Collapse update.
And here I was getting my hopes up that I would actually land some trap kills for once. I bet they're going to extend the trap timer out for the 3 minute duration or something.

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Does anyone even play that anymore?

>Survivor does a 180 at the singular moment you decided to strike and you whiff
>Scream and they run off and there's nothing you can do about it
Hmm.

Run Shadowborn you FOV-let.

>believing they'll ever cater to killers

4/5 people in a game are survivors, there's no reason for them to ever give a fuck about killers

Your melee attack isn't a cleave across the length of your field of view.
If you hit forward, it doesn't matter if you see them dive to the side or not.

>its called feral frenzy not meticulous approach
I mean you can say that but from a balance perspective I understand why it felt unfair for survivors to successfully juke a Legion only to get hit 2 seconds later because there was no punishment for missing a hit.

>removing blood pools during it doesn't really make sense either but whatever
Agreed, it actually gave bloodhound a use.

>>Survivor does a 180 at the singular moment you decided to strike and you whiff
You are kind of proving his point. Why do you think you shouldn't be able to avoid Legion? That's not good design.

>sub 60IQ doesn't understand my post

MKAY

True story:
>Killers get shit on patch after patch and the community for them is ALL miserable fucks
>Killers just stop queuing altogether
>Survivor queue times skyrocket
>Survivors start whining like mad
>Few weeks later, Killers get a buff, I believe it was the update that added Bloodlust, but don't quote me on that
>Suddenly, Killer queue times are long and Survivorbabs are happy cause instant matches

>wanna play on new killer?
>grind countless hours to get perks

Unninstalled year ago for this shit

*3 generators pop halfway through the chase of your first Survivor that match*
Hmm, yes, getting only one chance at a time to hit a Survivor at a decent movement speed is fair and balanced.

>the one asshole who makes bloodpoint hacks put it behind a paywall
its not fair its not right

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Clown isn't terrible, but he's definately not top five. Myers and Clown are in completely different ballparks of strength.

>Myers
>M1 killer that can run M&A and walk up to gens and snatch survivors off of them or get a free hit.
>Can pressure people into hiding and wasting time with Stalk, he doesn't even need to be near them.
>Has built in Mori. Depending on addons he doesn't even need to down the survivor on second hit.
>Can pressure the entire map with global exposed every 1-3 minutes depending on addons and survivors, allowing him to snowball.
>The only killer that can consistently benefit from chases he loses due to the way Evil Within works.
>Can run almost any build on him and do well due to Evil Within being so strong across numerous situations.
>Also the only killer that benefits from the Obsession without specific perks as the Obsession boosts his Evil gain.

Compared to:

>Clown
>M1 killer
>Fat collision box that makes hugging corners take longer. He is the ONLY KILLER like this. Everyone else, from Freddy to Huntress, has the same collision.
>He can slow in an AoE by 15% for 2 seconds.

Myers is better than Clown by miles.

>break a pallet
>FLASHLIGHT
>survey the area for 30 seconds before picking a survivor up
>sprint burst from nowhere into FLASHLIGHT
>bury your face in a wall before picking the survivor up
>you better fucking believe they'll squeeze in a FLASHLIGHT somehow
>teabag you at the gate for the next 5 minutes or so
>"ez game"
SWF groups can eat my ass.

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Run Ruin then you dense nigger.

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Considering he could actually face jail time if he's ever found, I don't blame him. Limit who has access to it and in the event that he finds tracing, he can deny specific people access simply because he had the forethought to make each purchased copy have a unique footprint.

You have to be retarded to go to jail for that shit.

Less leads the better.

Just use incognito mode LMAO.

Solvent jug + flask of bleach is a super fucking nasty on combo on clown though. Exhaustion + an extra 15% movement speed penalty is a good way to end chases extremely quickly. Problem with clown is that even though he's got great chase game he's got fuck all for map pressure so unless you're hooking people left and right you're gonna have a hard time dealing with gen rushing.

You are grasping so hard. I never said Legion is good. I never said the nerfs weren't overboard. I said a missed hit should be punished and your response is to make up a situation that can happen even with the current design of Legion where they aren't. Yes, getting one chance to hit them is all you should get, the game is based around this design. That's why literally every other attack and damaging ability functions this way. Survivros need a chance to dodge and get away or there is no counterplay and if you'd actually find that fun then agree with the original post you responded to, you want a brain dead character that's easy to use and easy to win with.

>Problem with clown is that even though he's got great chase game he's got fuck all for map pressure
This is the problem. His chase is "decent" it can be great if the stars align and the survivors run somewhere really stupid, but that just makes him good at punishing mistakes.

Map pressure is the name of the game though. Winning chases doesn't win games, else Legion would be up there with Nurse.

I played it over a free weekend and it was the ugliest, jankiest most unfun "popular" game i've played in a long time.

Why do people like it, fucking enlighten me, cause all I got out of it was actual anger that I wasted my time.

>have bad game, only get one sac
>gate are open, fuck off to the basement because I don't feel like getting teabagged
>alt tab and do something else for like 45 minutes
>come back
>2 survivors still in the game, went down into the basement to gesture at me
>deep wound them both, down both and hook one, other one bleeds out
why didn't they just leave I don't understand

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Addiction

I'm gonna just pop into this and say that Legion is generally garbage even with being able to miss during Frenzy, largely because things like Lithe and Sprint Burst are still faster, and a timely use of them will get you away 9/10 times since Legion self-stuns when Frenzy ends.

Next patch Legion will likely be more or less the same as they are now, with the primary difference being that they'll be 115, so they can actually chase without spamming Frezy every time its up.

>Why do people like it, fucking enlighten me
If grows on you after a while, but the learning curve for it is insane. There's so many noob trap perks and ways to play, and learning where and when to loop is key to playing, and nothing can really teach that to you, you just have to learn it yourself.

it has a good atmosphere, and its the only real entry in the asymmetrical genre that's still getting support even if it always has some game breaking bug at any moment

It's pretty great as killer when the stars and planets perfectly allign and you get 5 stacks of devour hope ready to go

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There's a learning curve but the game's skill ceiling is non-existent. As survivor all you have to do is get good at vaulting windows while on killer only Nurse requires actual skill.

>I'm gonna just pop into this and say that Legion is generally garbage even with being able to miss during Frenzy, largely because things like Lithe and Sprint Burst are still faster, and a timely use of them will get you away 9/10 times since Legion self-stuns when Frenzy ends.
>
>Next patch Legion will likely be more or less the same as they are now, with the primary difference being that they'll be 115, so they can actually chase without spamming Frezy every time its up.
I agree with you, I just think in those rare cases where a survivor pulls some kind of window juke and the Legion get's outplayed they should be punished for it. It's not always about whether a character is too good or too bad.

*finds your totem*

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Doing a true 360 is actually hard and one of the few things that can make even a good killer miss. The survivor side should not be dumbed down even more by removing this against a killer because I agree with you, jukes aside there is no real skill aside from maybe understanding how to properly approach a window to get fast vault every time.

They're scrapping his uniqueness and turning him into a generic 2 hit down killer, that needs enduring/spiritfury
Garbage

Find me another game even remotely simialr. That's why, it is wholly unique and functions just well enough that people put up with the bullshit. Also like another user mentioned there are LOTS of noob traps. I can see why you got frustrated if you fell for any of them.

360ing is worthless, no actually decent killer will miss unless they don't expect it from you or autoaim fucks them up.

Honestly, and this is going to sound trite I'm sure, but the game has a modestly high skill ceiling, and it genuinely does feel good to feel yourself getting better at it.

If you were to compare how anybody plays this game for their first hour, to their 10th hour, to the 50th hour, and then to their 100th hour, there's going to be noticeable differences in how well they perform. This is true for both roles, killer and survivor.

It'll never, ever be e-sports worth and genres like fighting games and RTS still require vastly more skill and time commitment. But DbD is a cooperative element so you can goof off and have fun with friends. Or, if you prefer killer, it just feels so satisfying to know you just outplayed a full group of 4 fucking people. Completely outclassed.

It's a bad game made by bad devs. KYS tranny.

>I just think in those rare cases where a survivor pulls some kind of window juke and the Legion get's outplayed they should be punished for it
The thing is, is that Legion is supposed to excel in chases. That's all they do. If you can 360 them like every other killer and they miss and self-stun, what's even the point of the power? It's going to be slower and less useful next patch, so Legion will effectively be an M1 killer that can more consistently chase every 30 or so seconds. At that point you may as well just play someone else.

You seem like a joy to be around. I bet you have lots of loved ones and friends.

Yes and not a single one of them is a seething tranny.

>and they miss and self-stun,
They don't self stun in the new update the devs have confirmed it just ends Frenzy.
> what's even the point of the power?
Unfortunately in the new update, only ambushing and getting the first hit. I agree they are fucking his design but is has nothing to do with missed hits and everything to do with Feral Frenzy no longer decreasing the mend bar. But user if you miss as often as it sounds like here's what you do, stop missing. I almost never miss, I can't understand how this is such a big issue to you unless you're really bad and get juked a lot in which case I have little sympathy for you.

Best, most fun killer.

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I really need to play him again but every time I get that urge something stops me and just go back to playing freddy again.

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>they all dc in the middle of the kill animation

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jump scare potential is very good on him
youtube.com/watch?v=nVgXgDlgGGg

I love when survivors DC on the hook or int he animation. Their anger only makes me enjoy it more.

There's a Discord for Evolve? Mind sending the link?

>4k in three minutes
>BRUTAL KILLER

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BARBECUE IS ON THE SHRINE

>mfw the fucking idiots the devs endorse in the community
why do they support people who would otherwise be banned? lmao

>believing they'll ever cater to killers

What are you talking about? Killers have been steadily getting everything they complained about and are about to get hatch control. Also all the RnD on this game goes toward new killer mechanics.

>tfw have had the cannibal since he launched

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Every time a new killer releases, a new Survivor comes in with the biggest middle finger to the entire meta. The game is based entirely around Survivor perks. Killers rise and fall based entirely on what perks survivors are running. There has never been a time where Killers decided the meta. Ever. The closest we've gotten to that is Legion and Plague forcing Dead Hards, and even then those are mid-tier killers that hardly impact the way the game plays.

where are my evolve bros at? all 5 of us.

Oh wowzers gee it's like if in an online mulitplayer game you need other people online to play with like jiminy jelikers scotty boy maybe there's noone online because the game is trash?

How many survivor perks and actions have been dismantled recently? How many new game play elements have been added for survivors? Hell, even the cosmetics for killers get more work put into them. How is this not being catered to?

>rank 15
>bought and played legion for the first time
>deep wound every survivor
>all of them run away, chase and down one of them
>literally all of them go down to their wounds

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Didnt drag out the game long enough sweetye

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The only reason to play this game is for the hatemail
Prove me wrong.

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Survivors should be more than just skins

>not League of Legends

Dota 2 is a better example, infact it can even be 1 vs 9 if you're playing Techies

>but now I just really hope the devs die a horrible death.
What'd they do?

what does the flashlight do to killers? I only played on the free weekend and they seemed to just give your position away.

Blind them if you hold it to their eyes long enough
High tier killers have no problems with flashlights

Let's see:
>Mettle just ruined M1 killers.
>Solidarity counters Sloppy Butcher and killers that can't pressure survivors in groups.
>Head On + the sound changes has made checking lockers a nightmare crap shoot.
>Distortion massively impacted the effectiveness of BBQ & Bitter Murmur, with BBQ being required in more games just to apply map pressure.
>The entire end-game phase is being remade due to Adrenaline and Self-Care.
Not to mention that whenever they make a new looping perk they have to nerf it because it's absurd, every single time.

The reasons Survivors don't get "anything" is because they don't need it. They need to be constantly nerfed and their strength is constantly mitigated by new Killer perks, which most Killers can't even take because they need pressure and anti-loop perks. Virtually every killer runs BBQ, Whispers, and Enduring or Spirit Fury or both, or Ruin, because gens finish too quickly, maps are in the survivor's favor outside of 2-3, and Survivors can sit there and win with a ton of get-out-of-fail perks.

They blind them and if the killer is holding someone they drop the person they are holding. They aren't nearly as good as they use to be and the only real way to get a reliable blind now is to do it after you drop a pallet on a killer and stun them. Otherwise aiming it at their face for long enough is too hard and you have to stop to do it meaning if you miss they will catch up and hit you. You can also use it to reveal a cloaked Wraith but they also nerfed how effective that is.

Im pretty sure head on's hitbox is fucked, every time some jane tries to pull that it never seems to work or maybe im 2gud

I'm asking you why all the shit that has come to killers recently and the fact that only they get new content don't count. I didn't even mention the killer perks are the balance of killer powers.

i want to personally visited every fucking survivor main and smash their face in with a hammer

You have to be directly in front of the locker, it's like a thin 9-10 meter line. If you're a little off that you don't get stunned.

You mean cosmetics or what? They get cosmetics almost every time a killer does.

THE ULTIMATE PROOF THAT VIOLENCE CAUSES VIDEOGAMES

>You mean cosmetics or what? They get cosmetics almost every time a killer does.

forget I said anything

Freddy Rework is in the PTB?

>forgetting what a survivelet has to say about the balance in shit game
already done senpai

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Gameplay where both sides have to be proactive and when they both play perfectly while being asymmetrical and it's still even is rare in gaming in general.

Starcraft 2 did it. Smash bros kind of does it.
uh...

I legitimately don't even know what you're complaining about. You're saying Killers are catered too, but they have constantly got the shit end of the stick since the game came out. Even with huge sweeping nerfs to Survivors and huge sweeping buffs to Killers, the majority of Survivor perks and tactics are too strong for the majority of Killers to deal with.

I don't think I'm authorized to share it? But like, I found it by literally googling "evolve legacy discord" so you could try that I guess

So who do you guys main

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Myers and Hag
Jake and Jeff

jake and jeff for survivors
been playing legion and wraith alot more than usual, would try to learn spirit but I don't' want to use my BP on her

Pumpkinhead when?

Isn't the witch essentially OC pumpkinhead?

Pumpkin Night when?

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his music being in game makes it best

what's with the massive amount of DCs? I know it's a common thing on dbd but in the last weeks it went to shit

Connectivity is completely fucked lately.

The devs made it so if you quit a match you don't lose rank. Yes, you heard me right, people actually care that much about their DBD rank.

There are a ton of people who care about rank for some reason, and all of them are bad at the game.

I hit rank 1 the second week after I started playing. It's not a very hard game to figure out.

bt is getting buffed

how and why?

In tomorrow's ptb,

-mend bar doesn't tick down in the terror radius
-doesn't tick down if you mend
-killer can't see the progress of the mend bar

The Deep Wound effect no longer decrements if the user is Mending.
It also doesn't decay if the user is inside the Killer's terror radius.
Not him and it's not that notable of a buff overall.

Pig since she released. Also still play Trapper a lot.

No one here seems to be mentioning self care. Is it still a mandatory pick on survivors or did it get nerfed hard?

It's not mandatory because there's so much good shit so long as you don't mind relying on other people or bring a medkit.

Self-Care is only used by people that can't loop reliably.

How does Self Care help you loop?

It doesn't? Which is why people that can't loop use it.

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