Nips are base-

Name your top 3 Heisei games

>Japan
>zoomers
Amerifats proving they sre uncultured swines

>7k people
Ive seen bigger polls in this board

Nothing wrong with that list. Let me guess, if Fortnite isn't #1 then that's problematic?

fuck off zoomer weeb

This board also has an equally shit taste

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brainlets answering recent stuff
botw and nier wont be on any "best games ever lists" in a few years time

I don't know of any other game from SNES or older that is still 100% as much fun to play as it was then.

>japanese like boring rpgs made for the japanese
you really opened my mind user, never would imagined

It's definitely one of the most overrated games, yes.

Results seem heavily skewed towards recent games, but CT at the top is based.

Trannies are so mad for some reason.

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This is a good list you idiot.

Better then Oot and FF7

god I hate tranny ironic weebs

why do trannies not understand what nepotism means

unless they are like the alt-right and literally think your ethnicity is your family?

people just drop it for gaymer cred. yea its a decent game with a neat art style but its way overrated.

>american awards don't show nepotism for western games

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w-where's all the western games bros

>Japanese are proud of Japanese products
whats the problem? god I hate faggots

Do they always use big pointless words like that?

thats not what nepotism means
If what he meant was reference he is 100% wrong

Embarrassing.

Famitsu is a japanese magazine, of course the people they asked were weebs you dingus

DQ11 is better than all of those. I'm better at having a Japanese opinion than the actual Japanese, what the fuck.

-d

But honestly people have been saying for decades now that Japan may make good shit but the average Jap has shit taste.

>Chrono Trigger
>Breath of the Wild
At least the first wasn't Ocarina of Time.

Nice list.

*preference fuck me

people who have taste in videogames don't admit to anyone that they play vidya let alone answer a question about their favorite game.

not everyone is japan is a disgusting weeb

Japan simply makes better games on average. Cope.

>2012

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how can a japenese person wish he was japanese?

>American game awards
>gigantic American game bias
>Japanese game awards
>WOW WHY DIDN'T THE JAPANESE VOTE FOR WESTERN GAMES

>Japanese people are weebs

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That list is solid. How much of a contrarian do you need to be to think those games are anything less than good?

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why are filthy frank fans this retarded?

it has only gotten much, much worse since

>american awards dont show nepotism for western games

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CT wouldn't even be there if it weren't for the DS port. 95% of the people reading Famitsu in 2019 were born post-2000.

Why does it matter? Why does this faggot care? What did they want? Gone Home to win?

I will forever be sad that X-COM UFO is not on there.

what are those two girls questioning

seems fine to me. if you asked 7000 americans the list would be: 1. Skyrim, 2. Halo, 3. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3.

7000 is not a large enough sample size when the group is well over 30m in number

They're called otakus

>Nips know their games are superior to Amerikek walking simulators

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beautiful

Suikoden 2 would be on there for me
store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-NPUJ00958_00-0000000000000001

Not the same thing.

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I doubt zoomers know what Chrono Trigger is.

> buying PS1 games
yikes my dude

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GTAV will be there

Chrono trigger is a good choice
Botw is an awful choice
Nier is just a strange choice.

this angers the weaboo

Their sexuality.

Japanese are notorious for their shit taste

>ゴミ通

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zoomer detected
kys retarded kid

The same level of contrarians that are bitching about OP. Yea Forums is nothing but contrarians. This board fucking thrives on contrarianism.

>428 in the famitsu list
Based as fuck

What an obviously botted list.

Surprised they picked Breath of the Wild, I didn't think japs had good taste

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nier is the most overrated shit that got memed because of a meek anime girl with an ass showing

chrono trigger is one of the most overrated games ever
every faggot knows it, and considers it the best JRPG every made, despite never playing it

well i mean they picked breath of the wild so you were right

>half-life 2 above half-life 1, let alone that high
>solid list

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Who is the artist of this image, reverse search isn't returning shit

Breath of the Wild is the first pleb filter AAA game to come out in around a decade.

>American awards aren’t biased toward American games
>bitching about Japanese opinions with an anime faggot avatar of their tranny persona
>implying Chrono Trigger didn’t deserve praise because zoomers didn’t play it
a lot of retardation to unpack here

People that don't realize that nier automata elevates and even go beyond the whole video game genres don't really understand or even love video games
go play your cod and your madden

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>play JRPG
>become weeb
Wouldn't you need to watch idolshit and fap to hentai and own figmas to be considered a weeb, or are we going by the "if you like Japanese media, you are a weeb" metric?

>hating on cod
wow dude, hating popular things doesn't make you an interesting person

>nier automata elevates and even go beyond the whole video game genres

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What does that even mean? BOTW is a piss-easy game

>Why isn't Last of Us and other shitty walking sims on there?
I see through your charade.

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>poll with hundreds of opinions
>nitpick the fact that game X got above game Y
No shit that it doesn't accurately reflect your own taste, Sherlock.

>go play your cod and your madden
Hating popular things doesn’t make you an interesting person

Being pleb filter has nothing to do with difficulty.

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I didn’t say playing
I said buying

Then what does it mean?

it does if the people you know are NPCs

That's pretty based.

It means people with no taste misunderstand and dislike it.

Based Chrono Trigger and OOT making every list, normally at the top.

Here you go, friend.

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Chrono Trigger is properly rated. Its fucking good. You fags really need to stop being contrarians. Almost everything about the game is nearly perfect. Setting, soundtrack, gameplay, characters, story, all of it is good. Probably has the best pacing out of any rpg, theres no need to grind, multiple endings are cool. I dont see how anyone could dislike the game honestly.

"Top 3 Heisei Games" basically means Top 3 Games of All Time. Nobody was going to put Final Fantasy 1 as their favorite game.

>dislike a game because it's way too easy
>"wow filtered XDDD"
I'm sorry what?

>are we going by the "if you like Japanese media, you are a weeb" metric?
you seem to be. None of that would make you a weeb. Weeaboo's don't even really exist.

Chrono Trigger is the game equivalent to Kimi no Na Wa
Both are time travel, sound and look good, but they are shit

What about SMB

Even the music is a masterpiece. Holy shit. Truly the best of JRPGs.

youtube.com/watch?v=-3hfLIEzeQE

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Super Metroid

Looks like you hit the filter.

I don't get it Yea Forums. Why does it matter to them if Japanese people voted for only Japanese games in a Japan only magazine.

>Deus Ex at #1
>HL2 on the list at all
Yeah no.

uhhh thats not how a "pleb filter" works, quite the opposite

the opposite is also true
people don't form their opinion on facts anymore, they simply hate things because their bubble said so and Yea Forums is a clear example of that.

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Name one better SNES game.

>Is Chrono Trigger the biggest meme game of all time?

Either Chrono Trigger or Ocarina of Time.

CT is a JRPG without major flaws, but even a very well-rounded jarpig is 8/10 at best

428 is fucking legendary in Japan, that's not really surprising.

The concept of nations are aliens to those retards. They are the same people who would go biking in Isis territory to prove they are peaceful, only to get raped to death.

is that fr*cking gordon fremont from black mesa

Just go to harder areas first, then.
No, that's exactly how it works.

>numbers are now opinions
this must be the most dumb thing written in this thread
it wasn't easy but you did it

Maybe because there are like 2 or 3 good western games?

Besides BotW, Literally nothing good has released past 2012. Just a bunch of movies and Indie crap.

>Just go to harder areas first, then.
A good game gets harder as it progresses, not easier. You are free to like BOTW as much as you want, but describing it as a pleb filter because people seeking for a challenge dislike it is fucking retarded. It's the literal opposite of what that phrase means.

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And they’re all by Rockstar

the list isnt about snes games

Liking shit things doesn't make you a person

428 is a meme VN too
It's probably the best VN I have read overall but the main storyline is very forgettable
It probably only got popular in japan as babbies first VN

>when you've posted on Yea Forums so long your terminal contrarianism now makes you hate Chrono Trigger

If it is turn-based,I ain't playing that shit

Same reason I dropped Pokemon as a franchise when RBY came out as a kid
Turn based combat is for Fatlus Brainkets

>but describing it as a pleb filter because people seeking for a challenge dislike it is fucking retarded
I didn't say that.

>my personal taste determines what a pleb filter is!
lmao, you literally cling on to one of the easiest games in a generation. you are literally filtered yourself

I mean, sure. This universally acclaimed title must be shit if anonymous says so.

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umihara kawase

that's YU-NO, which is also the best VN ever made.

Contrarians are always right.

Square left so much money on the table when they decided to not continue the Chrono series

You're hating them because they are popular user, don't be like that

To be fair, there are jap games which are good, like Chrono Trigger and DQ, and jap games which are complete trash friend simulators like persòyna.

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But that's what your post says. If you dislike the game for whatever reason you got "pleb filtered", and one of the biggest reasons to dislike BOTW is it's too damn easy.

>american awards don't show nepotism for western games

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>an unfinished game is at #4

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No, the fact that my taste is good is what allows me to discern that which is and is not pleb filter.

No, I hate them because they're shit
Tell me one (1) thing that COD does better over BF

>Zoomers
>Chrono Trigger

Stop using zoomer as an insult for people you don't like, you stupid fucking nigger.

t.

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whats unfinished about hl2?

>59. Fallout 3
>above all that good stuff
Man this place has such shitty taste.

Another day, another top games list where Chrono Trigger ranks #1. And having recently played it for the first time, I don't get it.

Combat is just boring. Enemies pose no threat and deal a fraction of the damage the player character is capable of dishing out. There's almost no interesting spells or status effects, almost every ability simply deals damage. Dual/triple techs are just boring variations on the same 'do tons of damage' or 'heal tons of HP' template. ATB just encourages mindlessly bashing the attack button as soon as possible to prevent enemies from getting hits in.

There's barely any exploration, it's a time travel game that is paradoxicallty completely on rails. Your only choice is how soon you want to end the game by teleporting to Lavos, and even that is realistically only a choice on New Game Plus.

It has incredibly shallow writing. Not a single character has a distinct voice, apart from Frog's heavy-handed Ye Olde English shtick. Everyone is a cliched archetype, the rebellious princess, the geeky scientist anime girl, the noble knight suffering from a curse, etc. We don't even know a single thing about Crono, ostensibly the main character. What does he do for a living? Does he still go to school? Where did he learn swordplay? That's how barebones the narrative is.

The multiple endings are even shallower than the overall narrative: they're either superficial variations on the same happy ending, or even worse, easter egg/joke endings. They're completely pointless and contribute nothing to the game.

Time travel is not even used in any meaningful way: instead of traveling back in time to prevent Lavos from becoming a threat, the characters travel forward in time to face him at the height of his powers and beat him up. The doom of all mankind, that destroyed a sci-fi civilization with advanced weaponry, can be punched to death by three teenagers. How does that make sense?

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I liked cross way more.

are you autistic

I'm actually reading YU-NO right now and so far it hasn't done anything that interesting, but I'm only 2 routes in so it can change
the fact that the MC only uses the time travel device(outside gameplay) during bad ends so far is really lame

Were you alive when it came out? It’s pretty good but I really don’t consider it the greatest game ever. You gotta remember that everything is OPINIONS so it’s not 2 billion people being contrarian. It’s 2 billion people disagreeing because they’d pick something else.

>If you dislike the game for whatever reason you got "pleb filtered"
No, I said if someone misunderstands and dislikes something that's good, it's pleb filter. BotW isn't meant to be a difficult game so that does fall within the boundaries of misunderstanding it, but that's not the real reason it's pleb filter. It's that the usual complaints about the game are often poorly thought-out.

It is shit for its unskippable cutscenes, retcons, terrible AI, boring level design, shit puzzle design and awful weapons.

t. 16 year old weeb

This is pasta right

Jap have great taste

There's nothing wrong with having bad taste, just don't make posts online as if your opinions have any weight

Modern Warfare 1's campaign

Episode 3 never ever ever

The indie crap is fun though, I think at least.

Are you fucking retarded? You can't "misunderstand" a game on a mechanical level, if a game is too easy then it is too easy end of discussion. This is akin to saying that a kids movie should have a high rating because it's just a kids movie, disregarding the fact that adults are rating it not kids. Try getting over your autism and being more objective.

Those 3 games are all amazing though.

Yet BOTW is on there lol

ed

>2 of my favorite games at the top
>Game with top tier waifu

BASEF AS FUCK

Same goes to you

>chrono trigger
>zoomers
fucking retard

yeah but who cares, the episodes arent even really hl2 theyre expansions

>Finally a list where OoT isn't number one
>Shit list!
I see you Yea Forumsitendo

COPE

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Otaku and weeb are completely different.

SEETHING Sonykek, 98 GOTY

Terranigma

no, they're cut parts of hl2.

>if you dont love this game made for toddlers you have bad opinions
this is what the zoomer generation is like, no appreciation for gameplay

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Breath of the Wild is the best selling Zelda game in Japan, I think.

Chrono Trigger is certainly amazing but it isn't the magnum opus of JRPGs.

that would imply they were finished when hl2 was released which is obviously not the case, they were developed after the fact so they cannot be cut content

Yes it is.

THATS WHY YOU SHOULD FIND A BUBBLE THAT MATCHES YOUR TASTES TURBOFAGGOT

BOOMERS BTFO. RPG per turn was a mechanic used when technology couldnt afford a more entertaining system. It should just died already

It being cut content implies nothing about it being finished or not. It's cut content.

They look straight to me. 1 girl and 1 boy. Just like nature intended.

>Westerner butthurt about Japanese people are enjoying Japanese games.
Jesus what's wrong with them.

What the fuck is this
where's superior Glorious American games gook

97
Get fucked

in video games "cut content" is understood to be content that was finished/near finished on release and sold separately later for an additional price

>boomers btfo
>#1 game is literally turn based

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Episode 2 was the best game in the series though.

pretty good list. if you disagree you're either a zoomer or a nintendo/consolefag.

>You can't "misunderstand" a game on a mechanical level
Yes you can.
>if a game is too easy then it is too easy
If the game is not intended to be hard, why would that be a failure on the designer's part?
Your analogy makes no sense, as well.

Someone please find this retard and send them this list.
>VGA 2003: Madden NFL '04 (Western)
>VGA 2004: GTA SA (Western)
>VGA 2005: Resident Evil 5 (Japanese)
>VGA 2006: TES IV: Oblivion (Western)
>VGA 2007: Bioshock (Western)
>VGA 2008: GTA IV (Western)
>VGA 2009: Uncharted 2 (Western)
>VGA 2010: Red Dead Redemption (Western)
>VGA 2011: TES V: Skyrim (Western)
>VGA 2012: The Walking Dead (Western)
>VGX 2013: Grand Theft Auto V (Western)
>TGA 2014: Dragon Age: Inquisition (Western)
>TGA 2015: The Witcher 3 (Central European/Western)
>TGA 2016: Overwatch (Western)
>TGA 2017: Breath of the Wild (Japanese)
>TGA 2018: God of War (Western)
There's a pretty definitive bias towards Western games.

Nothing in HL2, including the episodes, are as good as base HL1. And when you add opposing force to the mix HL2 stands no chance

Uniracers

They're standalone sequels mean to be the equivalent of "half-life 3" but strung together into 3 smaller, cheaper, and more frequently released games. So they're less expansions and more an entire game on their own with the last 1/3 never released.

2 Japanese bro and look at Famitsu 0 American

Source?

>implying all japs are inbred
racist

Normies gonna norm, even if they're japanese

>american awards don't show nepotism

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>back when skyrim was released
>every japanese big name developer was sucking it's dick (except kamiya)
>Yea Forums chimped out
Oh how time flies.

I played Chrono Trigger in my 20s, it's really good, has a lot of freedom and interesting side quests that most JRPGs can't even touch.

Japan really loves BOTW. It's the best selling open world game in japan. It even outsold GTA 5

Yes i was alive. Of course a fuck ton of people wouldnt pick it as the greatest game ever. Its not my favorite game either. However I am completely ok with anyone listing it as the greatest game ever because I can acknowledge that it deserves recognition like that.

No it doesn't. Check out TCRF which often cites things that are unfinished as cut content. You are just making a retard of yourself.

As it should be.

2/16 leads to a whopping 12.5%. I'm certain if you asked your average retardera poster to pick their top three from the past 30 years, less than 12% listed would be Japanese.

>2003
>literal sports game won best game award

Holy shit what happened in that year

Depends on how much they're still latched onto nintendo.

The new one is far better but contrarians will hate it
> 1. Ocarina Of Time
> 2. A Link To The Past
> 3. Super Mario 64
> 4. Castlevania: SOTN
> 5. Super Metroid
> 6. Super Mario World
> 7. Metal Gear Solid 3
> 8. Majora’s Mask
> 9. Final Fantasy VI
> 10. Donkey Kong Country 2
> 11. Chrono Trigger
> 12. Metroid Prime
> 13. Resident Evil 4
> 14. Super Mario Bros 3
> 15. Pokemon HG/SS
> 16. Deus Ex (2000)
> 17. Mother 3
> 18. EarthBound
> 19. Metal Gear Solid 2
> 20. Silent Hill 2
> 21. Portal
> 22. Dark Souls
> 23. Breath Of The Wild
> 24. Metroid Fusion
> 25. Super Smash Bros Melee
> 26. Metal Gear Solid
> 27. Resident Evil 2
> 28. Super Mario Galaxy
> 29. Resident Evil
> 30. Shadow Of The Colossus
> 31. Doom (1993)
> 32. Final Fantasy VII
> 33. Half-Life
> 34. Super Mario World 2
> 35. Banjo Kazooie
> 36. Link’s Awakening DX
> 37. The Wind Waker
> 38. Persona 2: Innocent Sin
> 39. Mass Effect
> 40. Super Smash Bros Ultimate
> 41. Bloodborne
> 42. Final Fantasy IX
> 43. Portal 2
> 44. System Shock 2
> 45. Final Fantasy X
> 46. Persona 5
> 47. Katamari Damacy
> 48. Okami
> 49. Super Mario Odyssey
> 50. SoulCalibur (1999)
> 51. Persona 3 FES
> 52. Resident Evil 2 (2019)
> 53. Paper Mario TTYD
> 54. Elder Scrolls Morrowind
> 55. GTA: San Andreas
> 56. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes
> 57. Persona 4 Golden
> 58. Xenoblade Chronicles
> 58. A Link Between Worlds
> 59. The Legend Of Zelda
> 60. Silent Hill

>being demonstrably wrong on the internet, trying to cite some eceleb in an attempt to save face
>"You are just making a retard of yourself"

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Ocarina is the more overrated

That's the exact way of thinking that you're making fun of in your first picture, you fucking retard

> 7 Zelda games but no Twilight Princess
Defend this Yea Forums

You're right, but it is the apex of Squaresoft's style of JRPG. Because they used to be known for JRPGs, with Final Fantasy becoming a global blockbuster, that makes Chrono Trigger notable. I think Xenogears could have been better than CT, if it was given the time and budget to be finished. But in any case, I still prefer the Lunar and Grandia series for my JRPG fix.

>>VGA 2012: The Walking Dead (Western)
So glad this shit has fucked off. The definition of overrated trash.

Why are they using a Godzilla era to characterize video games?

>TCRF is an eceleb
retard

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Chrono Cross, Valkyrie Profile & Final Fantasy VI were the best SquareSoft RPGs

SpikeTV has always been super normalfagcore, and VGA 2003 was the apex. Though 2003 had an excellent year of releases with things like ZOE2, Rainbow Six 3, Dark Cloud 2, Tenchu, Ikaruga, Siren, GTA: Vice City, and that's all just in Q1.

They're not people, only fully evolved human beings can be called that.

You really believed the country that made Mario, Zelda, Megaman, FF and DQ will chooses CoD?

Not him. TCRF is not an e-celeb. It's a wiki about cut content.
tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor

Why do you act like you know shit about games when you're clearly clueless. It's not like this is some underground site. It's a pretty mainstream knowledge database.

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FF6 is a meme game only contrarians like. It has the worst characters, the blandest combat system, the weakest game play, the most idiotic and aimless story and some of the worst moments in the entire franchise. 7 is better in every way.

Simple. The games on the list are better than TP.

they're using the worst era too

Yes. They want to have assurance that the Japanese taste in games is changing and so the games that they hate will fall out of style. That's the entire point. Cultural Imperialism disguised as them saying the Japs have shit taste.

This except switch 6 and 7.

Name one good thing about FF6. Easily the most overrated game in the franchise.

They can never change anything there.

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>find average age of "core" audience
>check games released around the time this core audience was 12-15 years old
This is where you find your most overrated games, unironically. Let's say average core gamer is 32, so that puts us at 2002-2005.

And as expected, you'll see Morrowind, Beyond Good and Evil, Half-Life 2, and Devil May Cry 3, all of which are terribly overrated by nostalgic adult nerds. None are particularly bad but the love their get borders worship and can only be explained by childhood memories through rose-colored glasses.
Prove me wrong (protip: you can't).

Why do Yea Forumsirgins constantly browse resetera?

Lmao 7 fags really feel insecure about 6 for some reason. Its ok, 7 will always be the best in most peoples eyes. No need to get angry at what anons on 4channel say.

FF6 is just FF7's prototype. Everything 6 gets praise for, FF7 did better.

The American version of this is almost identical to Japan’s
> 1. The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time
> 2. Chrono Trigger
> 3. Metroid Prime
> 4. Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night
> 5. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
> 6. The Legend Of Zelda
> 7. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
> 8. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
> 9. Persona 4 Golden
> 10. Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate
> 11. The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
> 12. The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past
> 13. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty
> 15. Mother 3
> 16. Xenoblade Chronicles
> 17. Persona 5
> 18. Panzer Dragoon Saga
> 19. Resident Evil 4
> 20. Metal Gear Solid
> 21. Super Mario World

Fuck off to reddit if you want an echochamber where different opinions are deleted.

FF6 didn't do anything well. FF7 has no cringey opera scene, instead it has good writing.

Actually great choices desu

7 is somehow even more braindead easy, shitter plot and characters, awful pacing.

What's wrong with this list?

Devil May Cry 3 was unsurpassed in its genre until Bayonetta 1 finally came out, if you feel it's overrated then you don't even like that kind of game.

>eceleb

This list has been faked. There is no way that soi has reached them that fast

-d. That's a good list

>no gacha
Rigged

Seething western fag, NieR & BOTW are at the top of every list from Japan

>Even the music is a masterpiece

The music is by far the best aspect of it, so this goes without saying.

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It's really obnoxious that people still post the 2012 Yea Forums poll instead of the one we did a couple months ago just because they dont like the new results.

Someone link to the original famitsu article?

I don't know why you're surprised that japs are drones for anything made by Square Enix and Nintendo.

But they have Sony. Sony is the only company that means anything.

>awful pacing
The only point at which the pacing stumbles in FF7 is when Cloud is unavailable and the rest of the party goes chasing after huge materia for dumb reasons. Meanwhile, the pacing in FF6 dies at the World of Ruin and never recovers.

Nobody likes to acknowledge a normie infestation.

You know how the west hates EA? That's how japs see Sony.

Nah Midgar is shit. Game only gets good once you leave.

>Can't some up with a reason
>Yeah, I'll just namecall instead

What are top 3 Showa games then?

>No Final Fantasy or Chrono Trigger in top 20
Pretty tight list. FFT is alright tho.

>tcrf
>eceleb
If anything TCRF is where the ecelebs steal content for their shitty "TOP 10 SECRETS YOU DIDN'T KNOW!!!" clickbait videos from.

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Japan has Nintendo, Sony, Square Enix, Capcom, Fromsoftware, Konami, etc etc...

Rear Autobutta make ya seethe?

Super Mario Bros
Legend if Zelda
Pong

Anything I say youll just deny and say I have shit taste anyway. Just avoiding the typical Yea Forums responses and jumping straight to shit flinging instead.

>implying all the CT answers aren't zoomers trying to look cool and superior, specially when japanese culture is all about public image

Fuck, even if you did something similar in the west with FPS games, the result would be something like that:

1. Quake
2. CoD 4: Modern Warfare
3. Halo 3 (or whatever is the most popular one)

Zoomers would definitely put Quake on 1st just to stroke their own ego. Fuck, there are a lot of IPs that started on the 90s and get a remake or sequel after years of hiatus that zoomers hype the shit out of it despite never playing just because they see boomers doing it.

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If you think these answers are so awful, go ahead and list 3 games you think are significantly better than these 3.

I can understand the other two, but
>Chrono Trigger
fucking what

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Based
Cringe

I'm just gonna fucking say it, I don't get why people like Chrono Trigger.

I played through it and found it to be lacking in almost every area except for setting. The world is LITERALLY THE ONLY GOOD THING about that game. The characters are flat as fucking boards, the actual plot is just some boring "ancient evil kill us gotta stop it" and even the character design is generic JRPG trash. Not to mention that the ending came out of fucking nowhere and felt rushed.

Can LITERALLY anyone explain to me why the fuck this game is considered a classic?

Ghost Trick
Cuphead
Hollow Knight

I'm really surprised that they didn't vote for Undertale considering how much the love it.

I'd swap the Half Life games and not set Dark Souls that high. Otherwise it's a great list.

>no tetris
>no space invaders
>no pac man

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>Not a single mention of Street Fighter II anywhere in the thread

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Chrono trigger gets extra exposure compared to other classic jrpg's thanks to Toriyama's designs
It makes sense really
And its a great jrpg, go play it

We already tried this, every list had Metroid Prime, Half-Life 2 & Bioshock at the top

1. Fallout 2
2. GTA San Andreas
3. Tetris

>Zoomers would definitely put Quake on 1st just to stroke their own ego.
Zoomers barely know what Quake is. Doom would be the game they would put on the list

1. Half-Life
2. TF2
3. Quake

Tetris is soviet

>midgar is shit
you'll never be taken seriously

It's the only JRPG a poser could realistically beat lol. Most normie's eyes glazed over 40-50 hours into Persona 5

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Imagine being such a conceited zoomer you type all this tripe up about a game released 20 years ago as if you could ever have any impact on its critical reception whatsoever.

he said better

>he thinks a US colony is in any way based and red pilled

absolutely fucking disgusting

super mario kart

>Fags seethe whenever people mention good fps games
Maybe consider suicide.

There's no real "bad game" in that Top 10 or below, but fuck me if it isn't always the most bland, go to, missionary vanilla answers of all time.

Because it gets dozens of (You)s, retard. Just look at the post

Morrowind doesn't hold up at all. It's just nostalgia at this point. It fucking sucks and only got a pass because that's all there was.

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All of those are good games though.

>good fps games
>doesnt even mention doom, literally the best fps game ever especially with mods
fuck off poser

>Is Chrono Trigger the biggest meme game of all time?
That would be Ocarina of Time

Sorry to burst your bubble, doomfag but Quake is superior to doom. Easily.

>nier automata

What the fuck are the nips smoking? That game was hot fucking garbage. Only good thing it had going for itself was the skirt blowing up, but that's it.

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even dusk is better than quake. fucking zoomers i swear

>Is Chrono Trigger the biggest meme game of all time?
>I mean, it's good. But is it really OMG BEST GAME EVAR MADE

I perfectly understand why people like it.

1. It's well polished J-RPG that is more advanced than games like FF6.
2. It came out right when they were children.
3. Good graphics and music.
4. Interesting time-travel storyline and setting. Not a deep story but it set it apart from the fantasy based rpgs of the era.
5. Great character designs. It's top tier Toriyama designs. He does do great mech design, and his characters are great too. He can craft these wonderful full of adventure worlds well.

Very easy to get nostalgic about the game. At the time of release it was amazing, but now it's just a good decent game.

why? do you need other people's recognition for your opinion? what does it matter if they like it or not? I like the smell of my own farts by I doubt anyone else on earth will like them.

I agree with that list. I'm glad Japs have real taste unlike the children in this board.

I agree with the first two but Nier Automata is a very niche weeb game.

Base game? Ehh maybe, I think it's really up to personal preference. Quake enemies are bullet sponges so it's not really for me. Mods included? You gotta be tripping.

It's a recent game with a fandom, and look at the votes: each winning title got like 200 votes each out of 7100 people voting in general. This looks like tons of games probably got like 10-50 votes each, and only a few games got more than that. So Nier being so new got a big bump plus waifu shit.

>deus ex at #1
>dark souls at #2
>half life 2 at #4
Its like reading a 'how do I fit in?' zoomer list

>MGS3 #3
>MGS2 #33
All I needed to know. This board is trash.

I really detest the hipsters who think a game can't be good unless it's 15 years old. There are plenty of great games coming out every year. In the last few years we've had Nier automata, Botw, Odyssey, Persona 5, Monster Hunter World and smash. Gaming is in one of its strongest periods ever right now. We haven't seen anything like this since the ps2.

DE is hard, since there are so many gameplay elements that aren't that refined. But it's such a great world, with great dialogue options, and such. I mean, you can solve quests in many manners, and JC will actually respond to different outcomes and defend the players decision. There's a real freedom in quests that's missing.

The actual shooting, running around, etc isn't as good as other games, even of that era. But that's why I think of DE as an rpg first, shooter second.

Its from 2012. Consoles were really weak at the time so it was the peak of pc gaming popularity and pc doesn't have as many options to choose from. A recent list doesn't have nearly as many pc games.

I think multiplayer is the only aspect where you can definitively state that quake is better but as far as singleplayer goes i think doom is just such a better and more well-designed game. Either ultimate doom or doom 2, i'd play both over quake. Granted i really fucking hate the early 3D look but then again hexen 2 is one of my favourite games and that game looks just as shit as quake so it's probably down to quake just not being as enjoyable

Same goes for fags who think there's an experation date on well made games.

What? PC is way stronger atm than it was 7 years ago

Every game you mentioned is japanese though. In the West games keep getting worse

why is deus ex considered so great when system shock 2 is simply better?

Lufia II.

>halo over quake and UT.
truly a zoomer list.

Good shit.
I would also put Terranigma up there.

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>Nier automata
>anything positive

Agree with the rest of the list though.

Because everything is way stronger. I meant proportionally. Back in 2012 was early Wii u and late ps3. People had moved on from their ps3s and no one bought a Wii u so PC gamers made up a very large proportion of the board. Now the ps4 and switch are very popular so that proportion is smaller which is why PC games don't get far up the list any more.

At the begining the VGAs were much more about promotion than awarding, it was literally pay2win

Why did the Heisei period end on April of this year?

>Gaming is in one of its strongest periods ever right now
Its funny because I agree but for a totally different reason. Indies and medium budget games are 99% of the stuffI play right now and its fucking great. You are listing a bunch of unironically soulless shit

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No, that’s Final Fantasy VII, it’s garbage but still gets circlejerked anyway
> Times listed as a Top 2 game
> 1. Ocarina of Time (75x)
> 2. Final Fantasy VII (19x)
> 3. Super Mario Bros (17x)
> 4. Super Mario 64 (16x)
> 5. A Link To The Past (15x)
> 6. Super Mario Bros 3 (13x)
> 7. Chrono Trigger (12x)
> 8. Tetris (12x)
> 9. Breath Of The Wild (11x)
> 10. Dark Souls (11x)
> 11. Super Mario World (10x)
> 12. Super Mario Galaxy (10x)
> 13. SoulCalibur (8x)
> 14. The Legend of Zelda (8x)
> 15. Half-life 2 (8x)
> 16. Super Mario Kart (7x)
> 17. NieR: Automata (6x)

Shogun stepped down.

Half-life 2 would be first. A lot of e-celebs says it,s the ''dad of first person shooters'' despite making no sense whatsoever.

do you even know what weeb means you retarded faggot?

>Shogun
What the fuck they still exist??

your post makes no sense whatsoever

but your list says it's OoT

d

1.Super metroid
2.Darks souls
3.Minecraft unironically

t. assblasted weeb

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This, majority of good games these last years is coming from small indie to AA studios

Emperor Inua-san stepped down

It deserves all its praise, Zoomers just cry about it because they never played it

COPE

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seething

I meant Emperor. Same thing. The dude on the right. His son on the left.

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>everyone in the retardera thread is seething over botw
Really makes you think

What does it make you think?

What the fuck bros where is bloodborne? why does zelda always win?

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>why is deus ex considered so great when system shock 2 is simply better?

This is why:
youtube.com/watch?v=m68jnuTWtyE

Crossed out all the shit games nobody should play.

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Such awful, awful taste. Jesus Christ

>2.Darks souls
das1 isnt even the best souls game lmao

>two recent games
>only oldie is actually goldie
Based Japs. Nostalgiafags are cancer.

Well, if you were old enough to have played it back in the day, then you'd realize that it was the most finely crafted game of it's era. And it still holds up today. There isn't a single soul who dislikes the game. At most, you can say "it isn't as good as people say". But even critics still like the game.

Also, no other game has done what CT has done, to a degree that is considered an expertise during its respective time of creation.
Even never got a game where the overworld is inhabited by monsters, and real time battles happen directly on that field. At least, not in a manner that feels natural like CT.

He's right though. Chrono trigger is the go-to answer for zoomers playing pretend. Until BotW, ocarina of time was up there as well. Deal with it faggot.

nips are based
west cucks BTFO

Some fag is whining about why does the end of the Heisei era matter. Gee...

It's insanely overrated.

Such a beautiful beast.

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Super metroid and Star fox are pretty good. Earthbound is better even if I hate it a bit. Then I think Super punch-out is good. AlttP is also pretty good. Super Castlevania IV. Donkey Kogn Country.

not an argument

WAAAH WAAAH THEY WENT AGAINSTS THE Yea Forums APPROVED HIVE MIND WAAAAAH

FUCK JAPAN the Olympics can't come soon enough

thats pretty bad taste desu senpai

You realize the moment it ends Japan will revert right?

Nah, back in the late 90s, early 00s, Chrono Trigger was always one of the highest rated games on any emulation site and gamefaqs. A ton of "boomers", where actually discovering the game through emulation, and it's widely been considered one of the best games ever made since at least as far back as I can remember, around 1999-ish.

Same with nier automata. I liked it for many reasons but its a really mediocre game

Should a game be considered good if it has mediocre/bad gameplay?

I actually played it on an snes cartridge when I was a kid and I think the way retards fellate the game today is fucking stupid. It was good for its time but it's not "zomg teh best evar!!11" games from the snes and ps1 era actually have serious weaknesses in writing particularly concerning dialogue and modern games have almost always improved upon that. Additionally, modern soundtracks and voicework make modern games superior in other ways as well.

Atrocious taste.

>Poll is done specifically because Heisei era is ending
>Why is the Era relevant to this poll and games?

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What is?

>not an argument

The fact they give you the absolute freedom to solve quests how you like, and even programmed and recorded dialogue for all the outcomes (even ones you'd never think of doing).

That kind of quest and dialogue freedom is unheard of in modern games.

Dark Souls 2 if you prefer gameplay of Dark Souls 3 if you prefer level design

Meant for

Chrono Trigger, and Cross, are the most comfy games ever made. Something about the way the music, characters, and environment are is absolutely magical. It hasn't been reproduced since.

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garbage taste

Not an argument

if other things about it is good then yes.

and its still not as good as system shock 2, a game is more than just its quests

Filthy Frank fans haven't been a thing for years, it's all the Twitch retards nowadays that call out anything slightly japanese as "weeb".

that's just nostalgia talking retard. nostalgia for something you probably emulated on epsxe lmfao

zoomers are dumb

It's a good game

shame Square decided to give it a shitty sequel

CT's dialogue is sparse, but great. You end up falling in love with all the characters, without needing to read an entire novel of text. That's not to say text heavy games are bad. But it's to say that text light games are also good. One of CT's strengths, is it's amazing pacing. And one could argue that it would be worse off, if every character had more to say. CT is sisynced.

For music, composition is far more important than the fidelity of sound. And CT stands as one of the best composed soundtracks of all time. There isn't even a question here.

As for voicework. While it's nice to have decent voice acting, many games don't need it. It's not an inherently better quality. Many games work with only text. It's a style of presentation. Like how stand up comedy needs audience laughter, but other comedic shows don't.

>a game is more than just its quests

For a story driven RPG like Deus Ex, it's a big pat of it. System Shock 2 is mostly just running around some space station. Mechanics might be deeper but I was less invested in it.

Plus, Deus Ex is hilarious. Both intentionally and unintentionally. JC has a lot of quips and jokes. There's a lot of charm to the world and characters.

>Any Nier game
>better than Chrono Trigger

Kys Sony pony scum

Stop getting triggered by reset era, and then posting here, looking for hugs and support. Faggot.

i guess so. i really only care about gameplay myself so to me ss2 is a much better game

You must be a huge fucking retard to call hl2 the “dad” of all shooters. It came out in 2004 you bumbling faggot

>Implying anons aren't the ones making posts there just to screenshot and post it here

>CT's dialogue is sparse, but great
There's nothing great about it. characterization is nearly non-existent. You can put the CT characters up against the cardboard cutouts in any other SNES game and you won't be able to tell the difference.

I thought Yea Forums was always full of web nintendokiddies, what changed?

Ok then. I think Dark souls is a masterpiece in atmosphere, level desing(pre lordvessel), world building and I think the gameplay is very very good. I like the verticality and the connectivity of the world. Bosses are amazing, O&S being my favourite. The customisation and master makes it insanelly replayable. The optional questlines and the characters are really engaging. I won't list everything.

nobody has ever said that dude, thats why your post makes no sense

>O&S being my favourite
>literally a waiting game for melee-only builds
Yikes.

I don't know about BotW since I dont play zelda trash but why is Automata on there? I couldnt even finish it because it was such borefest. Is it because robot ass?

Japs are retards and they count their years based on which irrelevant gook is sleeping on the throne.

I unironically heard that multiple times by a lot of people.

>Earthbound is better than Chrono Trigger
holy shit you have bad taste.

What the fuck is a Heisei?

>Earthbound is better even if I hate it a bit.
CT is a bit overrated, but every Mother game is legitimately trash.
>b-but the story!
>b-but it was her turn!
Mother trannies need to die.

A calendar period in japan, the acting term of Emperor Akihito. Sun, Jan 8, 1989 – Tue, Apr 30, 2019

> The world is LITERALLY THE ONLY GOOD THING about that game

You're not wrong. The world, presentation, music and in general the IMPRESSION that you are going on an adventure and that its epic and crazy things could happen with time travel are top notch.

The core gameplay however is very basic, the writing is standard shounen and the overall structure of the game is every bit as linear as every other story based RPG. Virtually all the appeal is in the polish and presentation. You get the impression that maybe you could have finished the game early and gotten a different ending, but all of this is a gimmick that isn't even viable until NG+ unless you grind like hell and abuse RNG.

Usually the main consensus for best FPS of all time are
>Doom
>Quake
>Goldeneye
>Half-Life
>Quake 3
>Deus Ex
>Halo
>Metroid Prime
>Half-Life 2
>CoD 4: Modern Warfare

Yeah if you have a shitty retarded build. bringing smough and ornstein apart is tense and stressfull. What makes it my favorite though is that it has two second phases which are both really well-made.

>but every Mother game is legitimately trash.
Trumpkino as fuck.
Fuck libtard Mother fans.

it's been said multiple times. That what zommers think.

DS port.

>bringing smough and ornstein apart is tense and stressfull
No it's not you literally just have to wait until the AI grants you an opening. It's the only way to not get hit. It's fucking boring. 2 and 3 both do fights against multiple bosses better.

by who?

This. I don't get how anyone actually could possibly think CT's characters are good, let alone great.

Imma need some sauce with that.

Absolute shit taste.

Honestly better than the shit you would get here in the states these days.

>I meant Emperor. Same thing.
No it's fucking not reeeeeee

F&SPBP

imagine living in a country so devoid of culture and meaning that you jealously attack anyone else who has it. gook is korea, btw. i know bigots are statistically much more likely to be brainlets, but you should at least learn the correct racial slurs.

I disagree. You take a scene like when the gang encounters Robo for the first time, and it tells you so much about the characters, in such a short time.
youtu.be/34CnlzXB6k0?list=PLDgypNs3MY2QtV2ChscNc36ukMlSTSClZ&t=93

Will Reiwa have good games?
It's the japanese king. Who gives a shit.

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>the shit you would get here in the states these days.
well yeah... western-made games are almost exclusively terrible and the only good ones are when western devs work on japanese IPs.

I said I hate it a bit, I hate CT more. I honsestly think the Mother series is trash, I can't play Mother 3 because of that absolutely retarded combo mechanic. Earthbound is on the list because of Gygias.

>7000 thousand people
Fucking fake ass newspapers lying to people and not even trying to hide it, there's only 6 million people alive so how come they asked 7 thousand.
Also Nier is good, expected Zelda cuz everyone plays that shit but Chrono Trigger is overrated as fuck

>STALKER crossed out
Your list was already shit, but as soon as I spotted that, I knew you had fucking awful taste.

>I honsestly think the Mother series is trash
All right, you're good in my book then, user.

I saw it literraly everywhere but Yea Forums.

>there's only 6 million people alive
Elaborate on this stupidity please. I need a laugh.

>6 million people alive
Wait. All the other millions are just people samefagging globally? Ho-ly Fuck.

so nobody and youre just making this up, gotcha

>No it's not you literally just have to wait until the AI grants you an opening. It's the only way to not get hit. It's fucking boring. 2 and 3 both do fights against multiple bosses better.

Dear god thank you. I've held this opinion for year and don't understand why people consider O&S to be some high watermark of duo bosses when it's very gimmick, the fact that the two have different AI and movesets and act randomly and independently, is exactly what makes the fight such an incredibly tedious waiting game that is, unless you're using a build like sorcerer or Havel monster that can just steamroll them.

Brandish 2

Shogun is not king

I always wonder what this list would look like for Slav's or any other country that's 2cnd world

For me personally it would be
1. Sengoku Rance
2. FF tactics
3. Civ 5
4. Every Persona Game
5. Valkyrie chronicles

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That's blasphemy, you know.

t. 12 year old weeb

I'm talking about trying to not be fucked in the ass by both. If Ornstein gets close to you, you need to be carefull and let smough get stuck on a pilllar. It's incredibly stressfull since you need to keep track of both of them.

why did square give FF7 a remake before CT? that 3DS shit don't count.

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I'm not seeing how that makes them good at all.

O&S is the single biggest difficulty spike in DaS1 so I can see why people hold it in such high regard, I suspect these people never bothered to replay the game much, especially not in NG+.
And you're kinda proving my point here. There is nothing to it, just waiting around. It is not difficult to dodge them.

Are you newfag to the internet or do you live in a bubble?.

literally all excellent games. seeing this actually gives me hope in this board.
>fuck me if it isn't always the most bland, go to, missionary vanilla answers of all time.
seeing as its a measure of a very large group's consensus on which games are the best, it makes perfect sense that less-niche titles would float to the top

Because even SE knows CT is more overrated then FF7 even.

1. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
2. Gothic
3. HOMM 3

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Welp, I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make him realize his own reflection.

Japs are so fucking pathetic

dont agree with the ranks but a solid list, everyone is gonna disagree with the ranks, still nice to see sengoku rance on there. gonna have to find a torrent for that agian

if you cannot show me who has said it then you have no leg to stand on buddy

Based, absolutely based. You're a pleb, OP.

You don't have a culture gook

>MGS2
>Crossed out
This seems like the kind of opinion a Rick and Morty fan would have.

There's no wating around fag. You need to make yourself an opening and then attack. I also don't think the AI has that big of an impact in the fight. But I still respect your opinion

really fucking deus ex?... that fucking game aged like rat milk

Two second Google search.

pcgamer.com/the-legacy-of-half-life-2/

pretty sure even your future kids will agree with me when I say that the gravity gun is the best weapon in a video game ever, despite you having tried to brainwash them to hate it their entire life

Nice retarded saying. Here let me try making one up.
You can walk through the desert, but you could possibly die.
CT's characters and only part of the massively overrated whole of CT. Said characters are very simple and uninteresting overall.

>that 3DS shit don't count.
chrono trigger was never ported to the 3DS. the DS version is fine, though, and adds some extra content over the original.

also ff7 got a remake because it sold better and had a bigger cultural impact. simple as.

0.1 second ctrl+f

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It was kind of a bad time for games in general back then.

You have to remember, early 2000's is when shit like Band of Brothers, Enemy at the Gates, and Saving Private Ryan came out. Gaming industry was absolutely over-saturated to hell and back with WW2 shooters that all looked and played the same. It was 10 times more obnoxious than even the modern warfare craze that really got pushed for a few years. What fucking sucks is this generic as shit phase is making a big comeback lately for some stupid ass reason and now I can't enjoy RTS games anymore since they're all the same fucking setting now.

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also this

gamesradar.com/7-ways-half-life-2-changed-gaming-forever/à
theringer.com/2018/11/29/18116704/half-life-20th-anniversary-valve-fps-black-mesa-xen

>There's no wating around fag.

If you can afford to get hit out of attacks, yes. Actually making sure that the other one won't attack you when you're hitting the other generally results in you holding back from doing much damage, because the AI can almost always do something you don't expect.

>Contra, Double Dragon 2, MM1, MM2, Shadowgate, SMB, SMB3, Tetris
Those are the only games I've played to completion that aren't from this Heisei period.

Nier shouldnt be so high, its a good game but I dont see how you can put something with such flawed gameplay above others that are just consistantly great throughout
BoTW and Chrono Trigger are fine choices and if you think otherwise your just being a contrarian

Neither of those sites mentions "dad". or "granddaddy" or anything of the sort.

Chrono trigger is a great game.

maybe ''dad of fps'' but i've heard that phrase multiple times. This was to show that people or journalist e-celebs think it was a big influence.

>the actual plot is just some boring "ancient evil kill us gotta stop it"
how nice of you to out yourself as not having played it despite saying you have.
literally half of the game is about believing magus is the BBEG you fucking inbred retard

fucking idiot neither of them say "dad" or anything like that

It is a big influence. Are you retarded? What are you even trying to argue at this point?

>There's no wating around fag
There is if you want to defeat the boss without getting hit. Which should be the standard for any Souls game any any game trying to copy Souls combat.

Autonoma is absolutely a better game than BoTW and and Chrono Trigger. The amount of people who played it on 'normal' difficulty astounds me.

tfw I own CC, emulated it, have it on my psp, still love it

Ooga booga anime booty make my pee pee hard though.

zoomers please neck yourselves.

not him but for biggie and smalls you have to wait a long fucking time to kill either of them if you want to do it without getting hit. and since souls tries to be a game in which getting hit means you made a mistake that is a fucking terrible boss encounter

COPE

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Yeah, maybe I'm retarded. But I still think
''nerd'' zoomers would take HL2 as the best FPS ever because the e-celebs said it. Please forgive all that ''dad of fps'' thing, but is still saw that phrase multiple times.

It was a take on the saying that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. The idea being, that you can put something in front of someone, but you can't get force them to see the benefit of it. Of course you don't get it, because it's a nice succinct line, that requires you to infer its meaning. But what you want(need), is someone to explain things to you in long drawn out paragraphs. I don't know why you're like this. Maybe you're just kind of dumb.

>If you think otherwise your just being a contrarian
>if you think these overrated games aren't as good as they're memed to be you're just being contrarian!!!!
I would never call either of those as the greatest games of all time. CT is the definition of a overhyped and overrated video game, and BotW just gets memed to be better then it really is.

>Nier Automata
I don't fucking get it. The gameplay isn't very good. The story is nonsense. It makes you replay a third of the game. The last main conflict is literally the trope where she could explain immediately but refuses to thus making them fight.

>None are particularly bad but the love their get borders worship
You just admitted you don't like those games based on their fanbase and not their quality as a video game.

I bet you like Cloud Strife and think hes complex.

My fucking side, you need more than cope at this point, you need to be fucking locked down in a nuthouse.

He absolutely is a more complex character than anyone in CT. I don't see how this warrants much debate.

>good list
pretty bad list. If you agree you're either retarded or just a sheep

Biggest meme game would be Ocarina. Sure, it's good, but it's not even the best Zelda on the N64, let along the best game ever.

b-b-but 2b ass...

Not him. but look at the language they *are* using.
>Influence
>Landmark
>Advent
>Legacy
>Echoes
They're depicting Half Life 2, as this standard, by which modern shooters are all based on. In essence, proverbially, metaphorically, a father.

>Mother 3 not being number 1
Fucking Nazis
CTfags are always seething over Mother 3

I understood what you meant, but it was fucking retarded and overly pretentious, oddly enough just like every fag that claims CT is some amazing video game with amazing characters, plot, gameplay, and music.

stop samefagging you fucking moron you said people call it the daddy of fps or some shit and they demonstrably do not, save yourself some embarrassment and fuck off

>Persona 4
>The Walking Dead
>Fallout 3

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Nothing pretentious about it. I showed you want I think is good. You disliked it. What else can I show you? You either see what I mean, or you don't. You literally getting mad, because I'm allowing your opinion to go unchallenged. You really have a chip on your shoulder about Chrono Trigger, huh? Who hurt you?

only one seething I see here is you

the walking dead is understandable since its from 2012

I like FFVI and it's ensemble cast better (though it would've been even better if it didn't give everyone magic via magicite and yes I'm aware of BNW).

That being said, it did alot of neat things for turn-based JRPGs at the time like getting straight into combat while exploring maps and allowing you to nearly completely avoid all combat if you were good at running around enemies on said maps. Also, combo tech, multiple endings, an unforgettable soundtrack and a fairly balanced cast with good interactions between eachother made for a pretty great experience.

It's over-rated due to nostalgia but it is better than most RPGs of it's time and still holds up.

Whether they played it or not is irrelevant towards the fact that it is the best JRPG ever made.

I just sneezed.

I'm really not the guy. I just don't like how pedantic you guys are being. So what if they don't use the literal words "dad of FPS". Maybe that's just how he interpreted their meaning, since that's clearly the case they're making in their articles. And then he told you the version that was filtered through his brain, and you're getting all uppity about the specific words, when you KNOW what he's trying to convey.

Really says a lot about JRPGs huh?

nice shitty assumptions dude

God I fucking love Gestaltfags’ tears. Will be even sweeter when the Gestalt remake they’re begging for turns out to be a Drakengard 1 remake instead.

I will never understand the Deus Ex meme. I know it's not because I can't into the RPG shit, I fucking loved System Shock 2. It's just boring.

Yea Forums truly has gone to complete shit when they shit talk even Chrono Trigger.

>At the beginning
Award shows are always about promotion, especially in this industry.

Not him but you just made yourself out to be a huge brainlet if you think that short sentence is pretentious. No wonder you think this game is overrated, you can't even understand the game.

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>I'm a soldier and don't take orders from anybody
>Wait, I was just living a lie in the life of another soldier, in reality I was a huge nerd that got bullied
>now I'm all better after recovering from my brain damaged identity crisis and can take on my fellow soldier in the final battle

Nice characterization.

Half Life 2 was quite influencial, though. Various of the mechanics in the game and Gameplay elements would be used as examples in other games.
Being influencial != Being the dad of anybody, especially not Florence Piere Santiago's Daddy.

Rabi-Ribi
Duck Game
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3

>American awards don't show nepotism for western games
Bullshit GoW, and GTA, and last of us were shilled the entire year they came out. For reference revengeance. Ni no Kuni, W101, Rune factory 4, Skullgirls, but DmC probably got more coverage than all those games put together.

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Fighting games always get the shaft on top 10 lists, even if SFII is one of the most influential games of all time and likely helped greatly in putting SNES sales highly above all other platforms at the time (since the ports to the other consoles were crummy) and bringing a huge wave of new fighting games into creation.

It's actually right. You even have a subsection of brainwashed Western gamers who insist that all good games are Japanese, who insist that JRPG trash like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Chrono Trigger are actually good games and not just shitty Ultima/Wizardry knock-offs. You never see Western games on these Japanese lists because they're too fucking retarded to play actual good games, and PC gaming is out of the question for them unless there are over 9000 gangrape CGIs to unlock. On the off chance you see a Jap praise Western games it's always shit like Skyrim, Minecraft, etc. Just absolute bottom of the barrel garbage. Westerners are WAY too fucking eager to bend over for the Nips and praise their shit even though their biggest titles are inferior versions of Western classics; even the Souls games are just shittier copies of Blade of Darkness. But you'll never seen a Jap or a Weeb acknowledge this.

I think the fact BoTW took so much inspiration from western open world is the only reason it won.

People really don't know what nepotism means? Jesus christ

Hews Hack

Does Completionist imply you're doing all the routes of the game?

I only remember doing Main + Extra story content to get all the best weapons for my party myself and IIRC it took around 40 hours.

And this applies to you as well you fucking moron

Stop chimping out, you stupid nigger.
Maybe people just have their own tastes, you autistic fuck.

>Maybe people just have their own tastes
Good point. From now on I'll be respectful towards all scat fetishists, retard.

Nobody is saying that modern games can't be good.

What you mean to say is people think that modern games can't be legendary and the reason for that is because they haven't had years to see how they stand the test of time.

Many of these old and well respected games were designed well enough that even generations in the future will be able to enjoy them without worrying about the product being archaic in game design.

Super Mario Bros is a pretty good example of a game that is timeless.

>Soul Calibur above Street Fighter II

3D gaming was a mistake.

>You really have a chip on your shoulder about Chrono Trigger, huh?
Not really. I just find it bizarre anybody could possibly go "yes this is the greatest game of all time in every possible way" about CT. I've played it twice all the way through, and both times I didn't see anything close to what people like you see. I saw an incredibly bland, downright mediocre RPG with it's best quality being music and sprites. Everything else? Gameplay, characters, overall plot? Nothing amazing, all just passable at best.
I played it again years later thinking, maybe I'll feel different this time, maybe I missed something, but the second time around I didn't see a whole lot different, except the gameplay felt shittier then the first time around.
Same shit with games like Earthbound, incredibly mediocre in many aspects except for one or two, but everything else is mediocre.

You really are one stupid nigger, aren't you? Make a comparison that actually makes sense for once in your life, subhuman.

ok retard

Thank you for btfo'ing these people. I have some issues with language so I can't really do that sort of argumentation.