How is the psp as a portable emulation machine??

Essentially outclassed by the Vita these days because anything it can do a Vita can do better, but it's still not bad if you're focusing on 8 and 16 bit titles. PS1 games running on there is fucking nuts too for the hardware.

Vita is better for it

Not true, the PSP is slightly better at playing snes and N64 games in my experience. But N64 games on either console are fucking trash so who cares.

its a good emu machine and cheap which is nice

There's no native N64 emulator for Vita yet, your best bet is running Daedalus through Adrenaline. It's in the middle of getting a native Vita port, so that's going to outclass the PSP version. Impressive that you can do it at all on PSP though.

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>reddit spacing
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Daedalus on PSP runs better than Daedalus on Vita w/ Adrenaline because a real PSP can use the ME for asynchronous audio. Same for snes9xtyl.

That's interesting, I didn't realize it took a performance hit in Adrenaline. I still don't know how Sony got away with so many systems nested within systems and emulation on Vita.

it is only good for psp/ps1 and 8 bit games. far better options exist if you don't need to play ps games.

can it do ps3

Hope you like screen ghosting.

It's because the PSP isn't emulating PS1 games. It has a PS1 processor on the motherboard.

The Vita has like 90% of a PSP's hardware built in to its SoC. There's a CPU, GPU, VRAM, probably main RAM pools too. To boot up PSP games it just needs to run on that hardware directly. Same with PS1 games, it just recycles the PSP mode emulator with minor tweaks so it can access the full Vita control inputs.
The remaining 10% is emulated. The PSP has an extra CPU known as the Media Engine, which is a fully fledged MIPS core just like the primary CPU. But official software never accessed it directly, it was only used by high level media APIs and the PS1 emulator. The Vita emulates those APIs but doesn't actually emulate code execution. So any PSP homebrews which plan on running custom code on the Media Engine is shit out of luck, but ordinary games are fine.
Old consoles like this are rather hard to parallelise so usually the only thing that can be offloaded to the Media Engine is audio. That's what Daedalus and snes9xtyl do, and it does actually boost performance a good chunk.
The Daedalus port to Vita is hoping to be able to use the Vita cores to dynamically recompile N64 code and then use the PSP core to execute that code, because the Vita cores are faster but the PSP core uses a very similar instruction set architecture to the N64. I'm not sure if it's practical but it's a bold idea.

That's a common misconception. The PS1 and the PSP CPUs use the same instruction set architecture, but there is still a level of dynamic recompilation at play there.

I was reading about TheFlow's GTA mod recently, the one that runs Liberty and Vice City Stories at native res on Vita, and how it had to drop to 16 bit colour depth to fit inside the PSP's framebuffer properly. Fascinating how these things work. There's something really cool about how Sony designs these things to work within such relatively limited hardware and budgets, and then the homebrew community finds completely different and unique ways to leverage it to do things that shouldn't really be possible.

Old as fuck

If I ever saw emulating a PSP public, I would literally laugh at them and say "Just emulate on your phone your poor ass nigger"

Yeah, I hope some homebrew takes advantage of Adrenaline's hires framebuffer APIs so we can use snes9xtyl and gpsp kai with better scaling.

Yes, because using detached controller is better than having another old device

the screen res is too small. it's going to run GBA with 1.75x res or something at best with either broken looking or blurred out pixel edges

Buttons.

>Just carry your phone AND a full size controller.

No.

>yes let's laugh at someone and insist they use a vastly inferior method

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The Xperia Play feels worse than any PSP, even a PSP Go. It's also pretty underpowered.
>Those triggers
Eugh.

I've used my PSP mainly as an emulation machine and it's good.

I played Super Mario World on the SNES emulator and it ran nearly full speed, maybe some very slight hiccups and screen tearing, but essentially 100%. Absolutely playable.

Then the GBA emulator I used for Pokemon Emerald and Fire Red. Emerald runs the best - 100% with headroom to spare. You can turn on turbo mode and it will run at maybe 150% or 200% (I don't know the exact speed, I'm just guessing). Fire Red will also run faster with turbo turn on, although it can't run as quick as Emerald for some reason.

I did find hiccups when playing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 for GBA though. Probably because it's a 3D game. It's still playable, I think. But yeah it does hiccup. It's the worst-performing emulated game that I've tried. It will run at pretty much full speed but it hiccups every couple of seconds.

you can just use 1:1 scale and have some black borders, no big deal.

Awful, it can't even do N64.

Get the bigger battery + bigger back lid, makes something more to hold into. The shoulders remains pretty shitty however.

You'll literally get a smaller screen than on the GB micro. That'll fuck up your eyes in the long run.

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fuck you, dumbass cunt

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It can do N64, just not very well. But if you're looking to play SNES, Mega Drive or GBA games, it's really very good. Big games like Super Mario World, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the Pokemon games for the GBA run very well. I've used my PSP for emulation a lot - I played through all those games I mentioned on my PSP.

It cannot do those very well, either.

Ayyy bro, I have the exact same thing. Works like a charm

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The PSP has a pretty bad library in my view and don't even get me started on the PS1. The GTA games for PSP were okay, but frustrating to play on the shitty PSP analog stick, and plus the lack of buttons compared to a PS2 / Xbox makes things like drive-bys harder to pull off. And those games sort of feel like rom hacks anyway. I think my favourite games for PSP were the two Syphon Filter games. Apart from that, there weren't that many good games really.

And as for emulation, it gives you more games to run. Obviously no one is going to play an emulated game if it's only running at 5 fps. But lots of SNES, Mega Drive and GBA games can run on the PSP at full speed, or indeed even higher than full speed if you turn turbo mode on.

I played through Pokemon Emerald and Fire Red on my PSP and the screen res was fine. I was playing it full screen, so I think the aspect ratio was slightly stretched? And yeah, the pixels didn't map exactly perfectly - so some pixels would be doubled up into two pixels, but others would remain as just one pixel. So text might look a little weird, if you stared at the details. Personally I didn't. It was extremely playable - in fact I preferred it, with the larger screen, than on my actual GBA. And you can change the screen settings to your taste. Have it render in the native resolution and aspect ratio if you want, or you can have it render in the native aspect ratio (3:2) but scaled to fit the PSP screen.

It runs all of those games I mentioned exceptionally well, I provided details here: By the way I am not saying "you should buy a PSP as an emulation machine" - you probably shouldn't. An Android phone is going to be more powerful. But if you already have a PSP then I think running emulators on it is awesome. I don't know how hard it is to get a copy of the unpatched Liberty City Stories, and/or a Pandora's Battery, these days though.

Back in the mid-2000s it was amazing, but nowadays spend the little extra and get a Vita. You get to native support for every PSP and PS1 game, much better emulation across the board, a screen that doesn't suck donkey dick, and one of the best handheld D-pads ever. Or if you want native DS support, get a New 3DS which is still a massive improvement over the PSP.
t. recently upgraded to a Vita after spending ten years with my PSP.

>much better emulation across the board
vita mode emulators suck

Decrepit.

Just by some bluetooth controller for your phone. This obsession with emulation devices is just kinda weird when everyone already carries around a incredible powerful and hugely supported device that can emulate things more or less jut as good as a PC can. The only problem is the horrible touchscreen, which can easily be remedied.

>thats why you run them though the adrenaline

just get a Vita at this point

some are worse on adrenaline than a real psp

I don't have a Vita, but from what I've read, it really isn't any better at emulation at all. The only way you can run N64 games is using Daedalus, written for the PSP, within the Vita's PSP emulator. And performance is shit from what I've seen.

If someone is looking for a portable emulation machine, surely an Android phone is the best choice. Even pretty cheap Android phones these days, e.g. ones that cost around £200, should be powerful enough to run N64 games at full speed with Project64, and I think even Gamecube and Wii games too with Dolphin. So not only is an Android phone more powerful than a Vita, but it also has much better emulator support.

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pretty damn good considering how cheap and old it is
as a kid I loved to use it for games, music, and porn. it was so damn comfy

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>This obsession with emulation devices is just kinda weird when everyone already carries around a incredible powerful and hugely supported device that can emulate things more or less jut as good as a PC can
That's not necessarily true at all because many people have iPhones, and yes they can run emulators, but it's not always very simple. I have a DS emulator on my iPhone, and it runs okay, although because my iPhone isn't jailbroken, I have to do this weird signing thing with Cydia Impactor to make it work on my phone. And the signing only lasts for 7 days or something, after which you have to resign it.

But yes, an Android phone is probably the best recommendation for someone who wants a pocket emulation machine. Although honestly, do you really need emulators in your pocket? You could just use your laptop or desktop PC. But if someone does really want emulators in their pocket, an Android phone is probably the best choice. As long as it's relatively powerful. Even £200 Android phones these days (e.g. Moto G7) should be powerful enough to run N64 and even Gamecube and Wii games.

Fair enough. I forgot that some people are retarded enough to buy an iPhone.

not that i've noticed, everything runs the same or better.

If you really want a dedicated handheld emulator that doesn't have the baggage of a phone or one of those micro laptops, just wait for the Switch homebrew scene to pull their collective heads out of their asses. You might be waiting a while.

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>how is the psp as a portable emulation machine??
you download emulators and isos/gba whatever
you plub your psp to the computor
and you transfer those files inside your psp

iPhones are just superior to use as a phone. Fuck the new ones but SE / 6s / 7 / 8 were just good size for phones. New flagships and even budget models is fucking huge, go back a few years and people would call em phablets instead of phones. Want a smartphone that isn't fucking huge right now? either an iphone or the fucking meme piece of shit palmphone

I had a look at some statistics, and it turns out that the top 9 most popular phones in the US (in terms of use on the internet) are all iPhones.

deviceatlas.com/blog/most-popular-smartphones#us

I guess most people care more about having a nice phone with the best mobile operating system around than they do about playing twenty-year-old games designed for small children.

Take your meds schizo

Spending so much money on something that's supposed to be "just a phone" is pretty fucking retarded though.

I was thinking more about the Yea Forums demographics. I.E, not women and blacks.

>with the best mobile operating system

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Plays Golden Sun 1 perfectly but struggles with 2.

iPhones can be gotten dirt cheap 2nd hand. and even if it's 200 bux more that's better than a fucking block in your whose corners poke at you when running. if you aren't a fucking neet chances are your company will get you an iphone for free for work use which you'll be using as your main phone in private anyways.

I've tried shitloads of those chink emulation devices and let me tell you about em:

RS-97 - ok controls, screen is tiny/lowres and the shoulder buttons are placed retardedly so you need to crook your fingers to hit em

LDK - shoulders are fucking retarded on this

PAP KIII Plus - "dpad" is 2 groups of 2 buttons molded together instead of complete dpad, buttons are stiff as fuck, especially the shoulder ones

X5 player, X9 player - dpad are also individual buttons, controls are probably quite stiff

Tlex Ulike - it's like an X9 but it actually runs android 4 (lol) and has quite a bit higher pixel density

None of these run GBA / SNES perfectly, they will run most titles ok, at 40 bux they're worth getting and then giving to some kid, besides that nothing impressive. For actual emulation get a cheap android device and a clamp on controller (redknight, wee, etc) Don't get the motorola one for their specific phones, it has shitty imput lag.

>I was thinking more about the Yea Forums demographics
You mean socially ostracised losers who watch paedophilic Japanese cartoons and harbour a seething bitter resentment towards socially well-adjusted and moderately successful people? Yes I can see why such people would deliberately eschew things that are valued by the functioning and successful members of society due to a seething jealous rage.

Yes.

he says as he posts on Yea Forums

You think someone would write all that out if not baiting for replies from people like you?

i mean i'm married and exclusively attracted to buff men and have 300k in the bank
but sure
i'm apparently maladjusted because i own an lg v20

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no handheld device can do n64 well.

To be fair, not even the N64 can do the N64 well.

vita is nice but it costs like $120 and you need to have the right firmware

>iphone users in charge of understanding statistics
all iphone models would be more "popular" because there's only one source of iphones and a limited number of products to split between users (notice how the iphone rankings are basically a list from newest to oldest, which is because it's the same people gradually replacing their old iphones). android is completely destroying ios in market share, but no single brand controls the android ecosystem

If the PSP was basically designed for PS1 emulation, why the hell did they also design it with two missing shoulder buttons and one missing analog stick?

the original ps1 controller didn't have analog sticks. and l2/r2 aren't used a lot but you can substitute them with any button on the psp (usually an analog direction).

They still should've known better, and I remember a lot of games using L2 and R2.