My mistake was thinking that video games are art: I wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit...

that's not the director, that's just some guy who happened to look like the main character who wanted to take a picture

but who cares shitposting is more fun than fact checking

that's not the main dev retard

Do we have an actual source? That .webm can easily be someone else's voice.

>I was unable to convey my vision successfully therefore the medium I chose to employ isn't art!
What a short sighted fuck. I get it, though. I'd be annoyed if the thing i was working on got shit on too. I'd roll with the punches in public though, this is just pathetic.

Meanwhile in the land of competent artsyfags:
youtu.be/3xA6QTPCrKY?t=176
youtu.be/j-Fhx2IEztw
youtu.be/bhgsFCy2uvY

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never said he was the director anyways, retard. learn how to read.

>my game isn’t shit! It’s the children who are wrong!

Honestly I liked YIIKs style but the gameplay is a slogging pile of ass and the characters were obnoxious cunts

no, but you were thinking it, because the image literally says he's the director and Yea Forums is the most retarded and gullible board on Yea Forums

Marble Blast? I thought it was a meme game until i tried it myself, and ended up being pleasantly surprised by how fun it turned out.

so you can read minds then? that's impressive user

here's what he really looks like

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Dying Light has a main character doing stupid things people were ok with that. Witcher 3 has some negative outcomes to your decisions, people love that.

LITERALLY WHO

>I'll just post an image of a guy next to an 8 bit character that he looks like
>With some text saying that the director of this game modeled the main character after himself
>Then get mad when people associate the two, because why would people assume the text is in any way related to the picture it's attached to

lmao, are you the actual developer of the game? why would someone get this mad over this?

he's not wrong either way

is this phil fish's brother?

>phil fish
its all a fucking cycle

>Yea Forums has said this same thing for years
>when the yiik dev says it hes suddenly wrong

You're all cucks

I couldn't care less about this game. Just pointing out that you're fucking retarded

>the right AND left hate him
This is fucking hilarious

You made many mistakes you imbecile

And games aren't art, they're a craft

I know that's not the actual dev, but what the fuck is going on with that dude's hair? Is it some kind of clever combover? It looks like the front is being slicked back but then the back is being slicked forward, it's weird as shit.

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where does politics come into this? why not just discuss video games?

The guys statement in itself is very political (and retarded)

fuck you libtard discord tranny

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The problem with making an unlikeable piece of shit main character in a videogame is that people could drop out before they even get to the conclusion of a change in the character in the narrative, meanwhile they have to sit through memes and behavior they find abhorrent for the majority of the game. Movies can do this, because they take 1 to 2 hours to do this and tell the entire narrative, the viewer has time to both hate an love the character in that space of time, whereas in a videogame if it takes fucking 30 hours of playing a game as a character you hate noone is going to like that even if the payoff is that they change, theyre checking out about 3 hours in because they cant stand this character. Im not sticking around to watch a character I hate to even listen to for that length of time just so I can see where it all goes, I dont care, the character is annoying, they are not deep or the narrative is some reflection of reality, the character is just plain annoying. Just shut the fuck up.

It is not enjoyable or endearing when you question every action and piece of dialogue from the protagonist for the vast duration of ANY piece of media, especially a videogame which is to last longer than a few hours.

Make a shorter game if if narrative was the point of the game, faggot.

Add Megaman Starforce to the list

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it's not political at all though
not american retard

Why do you give stupid people attention. Please. Just let him sulk in empty pockets and stop making these threads.

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*sigh*

those manchild gamers will nevwr understand true art like this

youtu.be/WwCKPhlyU5M

A better question is, how does he think that beard is in any way, shape or form, acceptable?

This guy is so full of himself, holy shit.
Your game is just badly made and not fun, get over it.

You think after so many "Yea Forums is one person posts" you'd stop being retarded but I guess that's a you problem.

Videogames are toys that can contain artistic elements, particularly the music.

OBSESSED

>i made a shit game because muh gamers
Based and redpilled

its from an episode of The Dick Show from like a month ago. he said it.

Who the fuck would fake that? But here's all the source you could possibly need

thedickshow.com/episode-144/

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Isn't there a link to where he say this?

>Yea Forums is one person
Now that's aside, user, he deflecting criticism. He showing his true colors now people have called him out on how bad his game is. The fact he can't take criticism show that he is the true child. Now here is a real question, what the fuck is he going to do now, make a show, a movie, because the way he say that you can't spread a message through games show that he is going to do something else and will likely make the same mistake.

HAHAHA, you have to be artist to make art, this guys is clearly just good for nothing.

>suddenly like 10 threads shilling "The Legend of Onions" RPG

Sad!

Someone help this man! His face is melting!

why do all the sounds hurt?

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Forced radicalisation is the instrument to control the masses
Radical centrism is the only thing that can save us

I don't think the vast, vast majority of games are "art" in any meaningful sense and the only reason people cling to the idea is because labeling something as "art" has an implication of legitimacy or elevation.

That being said this guy is just assblasted that he made a boring game and people didn't like it. Regardless of whether or not video games are art, not all art is also successsful or well-received.

All this tells me is that his gameplay couldn't prop up is shit narrative.

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His represenation has a strong masculine face, meanwhile his face looks feminine and has no jaw line.

What did he mean by this?

It's like
Getting into the mind of someone who follows trends
Like plaid hipster clothing and hats and beards and vinyls and quirky instruments
And then of course video games became a trend so they have to follow that irl too
They don't like it at all
But they have to pretend to be into it
It must be so horrible to be like that

That's not him, neither is the other one you've probably seen with the cat on his shoulder. They're just not him

Nothing can save us now, the plebs are divided and conquered

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"Rebublican" and "Democrat" are both controlled opposition insofar as they both espouse hypocritical ideologies that can never come to fruition, hence why nothing ever gets done. Despite their impotence they are propped up as the only possible options to keep people from considering anything else. "Radical centrism" is a red herring used to discredit anyone looking outside the preordained binary. When the Republican/Democrat system collapses any solutions that emerge won't label themselves as centrist because the poles implied by the word are themselves arbitrary and will no longer exist.

Didn't he post an audio thing too?

a character can be an unlikable piece of shit without being poorly written and unlikable
thats the crux of every good villain

What a literal fucking child

No your mistake YOUR mistake was a failure to execute a good idea properly video games can be art through its interaction and concept if it works well. It's like saying because games can't be art because the genocide mode in undertale was terribly implemented

>video games can be art

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Even the fucks at Resetera are roasting this guy, holy shit.

>basedboy comes to the realisation that the Self Insert game he's worked on is shit
>gets buttmad
wew

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>Character is supposed to start unlikable and change over the game.
>Still completely fucking unlikable by the end of the game.
>I-ITS THE GAMERS FAULT, IM A VICTIM!
Fucking garbage person.

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>I wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit unlikable character who by the end of the game has to transform. But too many gamers when they look at this-when they play a game-they're so used to having to identify with the character, that if they play a game where the main character's unlikable or has to do some bad stuff, they immediately get triggered by it.
Conker’s Bad Fur Day says salutations

>put music, writing or illustrations in a game
>they stop being art

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Containing art is not the same as being art.

so then movies aren't art?

>yfw video games have """"""""""""""""story""""""""""""""""""".

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yurope 2 has a similar premise where the protagonists start out as real jerks and become more rounded and likable by the end. but the author had enough sense to make them FUNNY and relatable, even when they did the wrong things. Allanson just sucks at writing.

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modern movies certainly arent

>copy earthbound but miss all the shit that made earthbound charming
>copy paper mario but miss all the shit that made the combat great
>ITS DUH GAMERS FAULT NO ONE LIKES IT

Came in here to post about Abyss because that shit is exactly what happened in that game and it's fantastic for it.

Anything can be considered art, even taking a dump on the ground.

Get that onions shit out here games can be art not the stupid wannabe movies walking simulator kinda of way or the overdone 4th wall break but by interacting the game player and game mechanics in a interesting way. Or hell just by telling a real good story through gameplay

ah, old thing good

Lol what a fucking tool

No, movies are.

.Hack GU is a big one.

LEMONADE

so if movies can be art then why not games?

This but unironically.

hehe lol xD

1. Where was the original quote? I can only find it on Yea Forums.
2. Why are people putting Andrew is the director when he’s only the composer? The director is Brian.

Fag missed the point if he thinks art is about meaning and provoking thought.

You are soi aren't you? Just admit it.

Kojima does a pretty good job at explaining it.
eurogamer.net/articles/news240106kojimaart

Lol

>car analogy
i always knew kojima was a retard

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>what he really looks like
>2014
baka

YIIKes

Not an argument. Games aren't art, deal with it.

Its from The Dick Show, can't remember what episode but its at least a month old, and I think its misattributed in the picture

People with talent don't need to resort to publicity stunts like blaming the audience for not understanding their work. Instead, they take the criticism for what it's worth and use it to improve the parts of their work that needs improvement.

In other words, they aren't fucking hacks. Only pic related is autistic enough to make amazing work and still get upset over the fact that the vast majority of his audience are dumb.

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Worked for Squall in FF8. He just wasn't able to execute it as well.

just post the golden alpaca. regardless of the story, it is a bad game

>I wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit unlikable character

So it WAS a self-insert

Are nips the only ones that can do this type of story in games?

solid game
i played many hours of it as a kid on my mum's mac

>Basedmerican makes a game with a main character based off himself.
>Makes the game "lolrandom" and wacky in an attempt to make it feel like a Japanese game.
>Music sucks and Gameplay looks like shit.

This is the reason I still play 20 year old games.

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Is basketball art? If video games are art, why not sports games?

Stop obsessing over some random hipster's trash game already you fucking idiot.

Kekekekek

I've never seen this game in action before. It's like a super annoying and cloyingly ironic version of Shadow Hearts.

Holy shit, this can't be real.

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Copej

This guy is so fucking mad about this.
He talks about it all the time.
gamasutra.com/blogs/JessicaPaek/20190307/338145/Andrew_Allanson_Ackk_Studios_Life_after_YIIK.php

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Neither are art.

>finds absolute shit game that everyone hates
>"ah see this is why I stick to games I played during my early teen formative years which humans forge a permanent nostalgic bond with"

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pastebin.com/h97wMA25
for those who don't want to go there.

I'd rather stick playing an old good game than a shitty new one.

FTFY

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This but unironically.

Some individual dunks or shots or guards and shit can be art, but its tough to argue an entire game of basketball is art due to how it's not representing the controlled vision of a group of people but rather often just happenstance based on how chance determines the game plays out

>I am going to make a shit character and put him in a shit game
good job

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Obviously. But I'd rather play all the good ones.

>white men

yikes

>main character is modeled after the director

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The thing is, games ARE toys. Not specifically childrens toys, but toys all the same.

Art games exist, but games im general as a medium, are not enherently art, or artistic in nature. Mind of like how you have action figures meanr to be played with, and then you have collectible figures, meant to be displayed.

That said, this tool decided to make an art game and it sucked. So a big "boo hoo" for him, I guess?

>There were a lot of trolls and confused people spreading lies that the game is hateful
It’s so easy for people to dehumanize you as a developer just based on the hate around the game
>I wish I was more of that pure artist type, where I could take enjoyment from making something so controversial that set so many people off, but that’s not my personality
>I’ve known other game developers who have said they wished they could make controversy with their games and upset people.
>For me, that wasn’t the point. If I wanted to upset people, I could have done a much better job

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see
still bretty funny though

Aku
Why couldn't they make the name
AKUMA like it should have been? He is obviously a demon from his looks

What games prove him wrong by having unlikable main characters?

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This looks actually inspired by some obvious games, but the devs are just... not good.
It used good ideas from other games, but none of the original parts are even decent.

He’s asian?

This is art.

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>Art games exist
[citation needed]

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there are so many better games doing what he was trying to do with unlikeable characters becoming likeable later on that the only person he has to blame for that game's failure is himself

YIIK was a dumpster fire from start to finish, I regret wasting the time to watch it on youtube although i'd regret buying it even more

This. Neku is a piece of shit at the beginning of TWEWY but as the game progresses, he legitimately becomes a total bro.

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This is also art.

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Tales of the Abyss I think.
At least, the MC came off as if he was supposed to be unlikable at the beginning.

To be fair Neku is unlikable for like 3 days (30ish minutes).

desu i have no idea who this is or what this game is i just f ixed the carton pixel imp to look like the 3d imp standing next to it

But people did pour their creativity into basketball. Someone designed the mascots, the uniforms, the stadium, the little graphics they play on the TV broadcast. And what is the input of the player in a video game if not happenstance?

>Watching games on YouTube
You need to be 18+ to post here.

FF8 and twewy were already mentioned ITT

Aku means "evil". Which is perfectly apt. Plus it's fun hearing Jack scream "AKUUUUUUUUUUU!"

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Oh god we're fucked. Looking at shit like this makes me question wanting to start a life outside of my parent's place.

Yeah, no. While Neku showed signs and hints towards his redemption, he was still antagonistic as hell and was a whiny bitch until Day 5. See his reaction towards Rhyme’s death.

The input the player has on the game is in the end limited. Most games which will tend to be classed as art must play out according to one of a few set ways conceived of by the devs. Not talking grand strategy or the like here--those are different. Talking mostly linear single player experiences like those JRPGs Yea Forums always hates on for having the options
>>Would you like to save the kingdom?
>yes
>sure

>they're so used to having to identify with the character, that if they play a game where the main character's unlikable or has to do some bad stuff, they immediately get triggered by it
what the fuck is this guy on about?

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It’s episode 144, in context he’s baiting.

shut up libtard the rich are BASED

>At least, the MC came off as if he was supposed to be unlikable at the beginning.

He acts like an immature little brat in the body of a teenager because he IS an immature little brat in the body of a teenager.

I do not ever actually remember disliking Neku, he’s in too shitty a situation to reasonably judge him in the same way and while it’s been a while I’m fairly sure he acted like that to Rhymes death as a front to hide how upset he was.

>Any game
>Classified as art
I'll admit, I laughed.

Your game failed because it screams soiboi, not because it was misunderstood art.

Trevor gets shit done though
Psychos get everyone wet, a true unlikable character is a coward and starts crying like a bitch

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He's talking about a different kind of people than play gta. He's talking about hipsters who play indie games who are holier than thous. GTA players are mostly the unwashed masses--plebs who are misfits and enjoy doing nefarious things.

It definitely hurts the dev's ego that it isn't his picture being passed around.

Tell that to the other people that actively disliked how he reacted towards that. I myself actually hated Neku until he became less of an ass and actually helped Shiki to find her true worth.

Except his game is söy repellent, as indicated by this thread.

wow, what an ignorant faggot. there are plenty of games that have "meaningful or thought provoking" content. This faggot just made an annoying game that no one liked and is rationalizing his failure as someone else's fault ("gamers" and "the industry" are at fault, not my bad game).

>it's considered in bad form to talk about anything meaningful or thought provoking
is he legit retarded? the player should want to actually accomplish something in the game. if your character develops without your guidance, or makes choices that don't make sense to you, you will get no enjoyment from it. but that doesn't mean that video games can't be used to raise serious issues in some other way.

I wonder why is it that everyone who uses the “mini-game to attack” can never seems to get it right. I don’t know if Mario RPG series started it but I always thought they were the ones to get it right. The whole idea should be that the mini games are suppose to boost your attack’s damage each time you do it right so that you can defeat the enemy quicker. In YIIKES you have to do all these stupid mini games JUST to do the basic default damage. I tried the game out and at that point I can’t even tell if it was just that or the enemies are health sponges, or both. Now that I think about it I think that Sonic game made by BioWare also suffered from the same problem, sans all the other fuck-ups of course.

You guys should really listen to the entire discussion the quote is from, he explicitly talks about that kind of character and it’s not the same “asshole” variety he’s talking about.

>As if something being "art" mean shit

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THIS is art.

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totally looks like him

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W
T
F

Explain why.

Objectively correct.

He's not wrong, though. That's kind of the problem: You're not allowed to make a video game about someone unlikable because you're supposed to assume their role at some point.

That is to say the problem isn't that you can't, but that you'll face pushback of which no one has seen before for doing so.

If that guy in the picture ain’t the dev then who the hell is he? Because he was clearly there for the game’s booth or whatever. Was he a VA of the MC or something?

ultimately, games are 'art' where player is the
co-author. if you dont like this and want to be the only one in control - then you shouldnt make games, you should work in other mediums
also nice position
>whaa no one liked my serious film, everyone only watches blockbusters thus movies are not art and for kids

(thats regardless of how shit his game was)

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Lemonade.

I stopped playing this game around when they find the Essentia 2000 and it talks fucking nonstop to Alex, how much longer is the game after that?

>You're not allowed to make a video game about someone unlikable
nah
the issue is an unlikable character needs to grow and develop
he insists that Alex grows, but he's still the same insufferable, selfish narcissist at the beginning. now he just feels a little bad about it
if you want a game with an unlikable protag that grows, check out .hack//GU

Part of the medium is about allowing the fucking player to assimilate into the role of the protag. He just has no respect for the medium.

I watch 2 playthroughs of it, it's very soi
The manliest thing Alex ever does was also his most unlikable moment in which he's whining like a baby screaming his head off after the Golden Alpaca fight, where he tells Rory no one cares about his dead sister.

>wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit unlikable character

>it's him
>mission accomplished and we can all move on to play actual games now

Whew glad that's over with.

>they're so used to having to identify with the character
zoomers are pure cancer

add Ash from Tales of the Abyss to this

You do a dungeon with only Essentia+Alex, then have 30 days to prepare for the end of the year persona style, then the ending which is like an hour. The essentia dungeon is hard and long though.

Ignoring the fact on whether the character was a self insert or not, why is he getting mad? I mean he wanted an unlikable character, congratulations, now you have a character that even the nu-males and trannies at Kotaku thinks is too söy. Did he not wanted this?

Really think about why you consider these things to be art. Where does that thought originate? Most likely because in the course of your education it was paintings and sculptures that are similar in style of draw from the same themes.

The nature of art (especially modern art) is always taking new forms. There is no reason video games cannot be considered art.

Look at these soi fags

>all of this made entirely out of crosshatching
I honestly want to know how long this actually took to make.

Now THIS is art!

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That’s not the director of the game

>There is no reason video games cannot be considered art.
This is your brain on söy.

This is art!

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Well that doesn't sound like its worth looking through windows.old to find the save file for. Thanks.

I think it's heavily veiled sarcasm. What he's saying is that players didn't get why the character was a cunt and didnt like it or the gameplay was bad and he focused more on the story than gameplay.= when making the game.
Further proof that sarcasm is for retards.

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The ending of the game is him saving another universe at no personal benefit instead of choosing to stay on a planet to live exclusively with himself though, his ending isn’t selfish at all.

Add Kratos, from God of War

10 out of 10 psychiatrists disagree

retard

There's alot to hate about the game, so we don't need to pile on reasons.

If the guy is a fan of The Dick Show and put Dick in the game, then he’s cool with me

He should be grateful. He can slip under the curtains knowing his real face isn't being attached to his vomit creation.

He's not wrong.

>finally do the right thing right at the end
>think this qualifies as growth

>being depressed is a choice

oh so he made a strawman
thrilling

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I'm not the one claiming games are art.

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>There is no reason video games cannot be considered art.
Dude, videogames are glorified toys and are at their best when they do that. Maybe videogames could be art, but it shouldn't try to be art.

holy shit nevermind
not even haseo was this unlikable, even at his worst

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GRIS is shit tho

Yeah it is because the whole game is him slowly building up to that, and of all the realities he’s the only one that actually tries to save his own rather than run away.

It is though.

>doukutsu monogatari
GEE I WONDER

As a game yeah but not as a fart

this is the gayest image i've ever seen

okay retard
all of the art involved in making a game stops being art when it's in the game

>slowly building up to that
nope
he's a piece of shit through and through, right until the end

This is actually hilarious

>It's not my fault IT'S THE CONSUMER
It's all so tiresome

That’s an optional dialogue, you can be a dick to him the whole game if you want and if you keep doing it he kills himself but it’s obviously not the intended choice.

That's correct.

Twitter normie, but he's taking it well.

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Doesn’t the Rory guy actually commit suicide when this happens?

not enough animal protein

I can't tell if this is just another viral pic going around to make him look bad or not

do people really not understand why people think this guy sucks

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Lemonade...

>stop being depressed
>being depressed is a choice

I hope he's being retarded on purpose

Containing art != being art
No one considers newspapers art, do they?

>depressed person is always mildly attractive youth because only they would get sympathy for depression pity farming, or "self harming"
Based soi strawman

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The music is nice but thats it really

Geo's character development in the first Star Force game is great. Seeing him slowly break out of his angst and depression throughout the course of the game was such a rewarding feeling.

He's not
Alex thinks he's much smarter than he actually is

I liked the watercolor thing going on when mommy made her cum

This image may be art

I don't think that vidya is art, but this image is radiating untold levels of autism.

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Video games are not inherently art, because nothing is inherently art. Art is just a label that many hipster choose to hide behind to shield themselves from criticism and self reflection. (i.e. "you just dont get it! Reeeeeee!")

Also, calling something art seems to "validate" the medium, so further adds to its appeal to want to call it as such.

tldr; pic related.

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what
the
fuck

I’m not sure what you mean I’m just telling you in context this is the joke dialogue choice where you be a dick for no real reason.

This it’s meant to be one of his main flaws. When he’s talking about well known artists as though they’re obscure you’re supposed to laugh at him.

The artstyle, low poly shit was the only cool thing about this game.

>engraved
22 decades

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>toys aren't art

Anything that requires skilled craftsmanship is art. It's only when people start to try to create (((((((ART))))))) that they miss the entire fucking point and end up creating something that fails both artistically and commercially.

Also FFTA. Fuck you and the pizza cutter you rode in on, Marche.

how many threads about this faggot do we need per day

Whats up with retards thinking depression isn't a choice?
Law of attraction is real and it works in your head too.

THIS is art

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This really is "LOL SO RANDUM"

Neku in TWEWY is a massive prick for a third of the game and I've never met anyone who played the game who didn't like him in the end.

What are you talking about?
He abandoned his family cuz he’s a piece of shit still.
He just wanted to be a piece of shit in peace.

Engraved? Are you fucking serious? That is absolute autism

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It's not but it's 100% your fault

Takes more than a mindset but yeah

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>Anything that requires skilled craftsmanship is art.
Patently incorrect.

He is wrong because he’s making the statement that no one likes the game because his “”””””intentionally”””””” bad character was too unlikable for the players to self insert as.

I never self-insert, because honestly I can’t even grasp the autistic idea of doing so, and here’s my opinion. Keeping it simple, people didn’t liked the character not because they can’t self-insert, but because Alex was a just flat out bad character to be playing as. The guy started off as a sarcastic ass with a tinge of superiority and he ends the game barely making any difference from who he started off as.

Most other games that have unlikable main characters does not simply have them JUST for the sake of being unlikable.

>Yea Forums used to shit on YIIK
>Yea Forums is now defending YIIK Unironically and calling it based

.......Was I sent to a fucking parallel universe or some shit?! Why are we suddenly defending this shit game?

....I think I know why. I’m in a parallel world where YIIK was the best game ever and Fallout New Vegas sucked ass.

You know how many brainlets dropped the game before the end of week 1?

Based Sargon, the savior of mankind.
Discuss ARK survival

No, Yea Forums just wants to avoid being Reddit so much that if they see Reddit hating something, they'll learn to love it. If every single person on Reddit hated FO76, Yea Forums would call it based.

Why do all the things which seem like they would be fun cause depression
And things which seem like they would be unfun stop depression?

YIKES!

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I mean unless you have some sort of a mental case, yeah?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF THEN, FOOL!

>New Vegas
>Good
Go back.

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Toned > everything else

>prozac doesn't help

Everything in the pic is true except for that.

Consider the following:
"Art" is a meaningless term made by people with noses up their own butts in order to feel superior to other people with noses up their own butts.

Wasn't this made on purpose to make the MC as unlikable as possible like the author said?

Did you fucking not see these apologists popping up here and there when the game first got released?

My Rori comitted suicide out of the blue due to a glitch. Something is bad with the way the variables are coded here.
Some other players experienced the same issue and managed to get him back via loading the game at a previous point.
Not that it matters since it has zero impact on the story and just a cameo in the secret ending, in which you enter a garden "only visible for those with dead friends", his ghosts forgives you and that's about it.

>Toned
Never gonna make it.

Ain’t even defending YIIKES but this is the most reddit post I have seen today. If this is bait then have a (You)

>Being a loser seems like fun

You mean sort of like depression.

That’s funny that you can do that, it’s unironically funnier than anything you could ever come up with.

Being able to make your party member literally commit suicide over how big of a piece of shit you have the option to be is literally fucking hilarious, the fact that even exists is probably the best part of the entire awful experience that is Yiik.

>boost baseline to high with shit like instant entertainment and treat food, an indulgent bombardment even a king once could only dream of
>any time you aren't being boosted feels like fucking shit by comparison
meanwhile
>walk for hours uphill, tired and sore
>sitting on the top relieves you of that pain
>lowered baseline lets you appreciate the feel of the wind, the sound of birds and running water, the view few artists could match

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>ellipses used unironically

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Andrew, stop spamming your shit quote. I'm sure you think out of context it sounds profound or some shit. But in the context of your shit game flopping with unlikeable characters, eyesore art, horrendous sound design/music, boring combat, and a buttfuckingly dumb story, it just comes off as sad and pathetic.

same, was one of those really fat plastic macs.

played that and bugdom. so nostalgic DD

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Now THIS is the true call of an artlet. Someone struggling with things beyond their grasp, so achingly desperate to disregard an experience that exceeds their understanding. Truly marvelous, to be of such a small intellectual capacity that you believe art is made entirely for self-gratifying purposes. What a small-brained mammal you are. I pity you, if that's a concept you can even understand.

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It's a way to classify things of incomprehensible beauty that skilled humans have learned how to create.

People now use the term to describe only the most highly respected creations in media entertainment.

>it’s unironically funnier than anything you could ever come up with.
i am unironically a better writer than this game dev so no

>Whats up with retards thinking depression isn't a choice?
Stop embarrassing yourself and read some neurology. Depression is an imbalance of neurotransmitter activity, namely re-caption of serotonin by presynaptic neurons.

Well there’s that but TWEWY still went on to gain a decently sized following, well-received reviews, and status as a cult classic whereas YIIK has none of those things.

Where are these defenders
Why did you not quote them?

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Better than unlikable for the whole game and then still unlikable but slightly less of a scumfuck

YIIK will absolutely go down as a cult classic.

Except TEWEY is regarded as a good game that sold well and has a good fanbase.

Not just that, but the same goes for people that drop Evangelion becuase of shinji's initial depression.

because it's hollow
>sodium/hfcs/trans fat high from fast food
>porn high
>actual high from drugs
>ultimately meaningless achievements in a video game

it's all ultimately detrimental to one's health and their sense of purpose. more so than physically, the guilt sets in when you realize you did literally nothing in a given day/week/month than shed a few more years off your lifespan. you realize you were given the gift of life and sentience and you squandered it on shallow hedonism

>art doesn't exist
actual sub iq

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>party can commit suicide because of how much of a dick you are

It's unfortunate the game looks like s_oyboi's wet dream or that'd be the most based thing I've ever heard of.

oh man, have a (you)

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Give us an example of your writing

but you have to admit vella is fucking hot
i would rip her pantyhose and fuck her in her anal hole endlessly till my balls are reduced to 1/100 of their current size

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what a filthy loser mind slave LMAO great industry

why the fuck would i ever share anything with Yea Forums

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>Cult classic
Mass suicide of everyone involved by drinking spiked kool aid?

Could you imagine if someone actually thought that? Man would that be hilarious.

Listen to this and tell me it's not art

youtu.be/WwCKPhlyU5M

As you come to the end of the great hall, you perceive an inviting warmth radiating from a grand throne wrought out of marble, its masterful artistry out of place amidst the castle's more practical stonework. The veiled face of a woman is carved above the throne's back, watching over the room with hollow eyes. At your approach, you feel the warmth fluctuate, as though stirring. A voice rings out from the carving, permeating the fortress through stone and air.

>I wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit unlikable character who by the end of the game has to transform. But too many gamers when they look at this-when they play a game-they're so used to having to identify with the character, that if they play a game where the main character's unlikable or has to do some bad stuff, they immediately get triggered by it.

Isn't the opposite of this Nier?

So basically being too happy makes you depressed

"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water."

That's the point though
Alex (Andrew's self insert) is more poorly written than Neku because Neku becomes a better person over time in a way that is convincing and compelling

I like what he's saying here. I guess the issue is that it's a video game, and I have to invariably control the bastard to get from destination to destination. I have to watch him succeed. And more importantly, the gameplay looks like a pain and the very frequent voice acting scenes sound dreadful. Good game for masochists with too much free time, imo.

That wasn’t anywhere near as entertaining as making some nerd kill himself

Haha what a faggot

>Neku
>Convincingly

Fuck off nobody 180s on their personality in a week with no slip backs into their old personality, it’s typical jap shit where the character instantly transforms.

Art exists, but it's merely an illusion. A purely human construct, like religion or the color pink.

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I thought that was the whole point of Tales of the Abyss with Luke.

He needs to crawl out of his own ass.

Not bad, but subject matter is gay.

Write your faggot ass book, user.

Not my fault you’re a drag

You can't make a character shitty just for the sake of being shitty. He sounds as insuferable as Alex and I'm betting he modelled Alex's personality off his own and now he can't stand being told he's a piece of shit.

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Oh wait sorry I forgot, they fall unconscious whenever there’s no game going on, so really it’s more like his entire personality changes in 30 hours maybe?

not my fault you got bullied so severely that you feel the need to bully fictional characters to death

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Can I fuck the throne?

>nobody 180s on their personality
Except people do that all the time.
Because people's personalities are often more the result of their surroundings than just themselves.
So it happens if you send someone to a week long bootcamp, they suddenly become a little more like the people around them.
This is especially true if you go from no friends or social circle to a small but tightly-knit one.
People change their personality all the time, especially if you put them into new social settings. Then their personality changes even more quickly

Boy, who knew we had such deep thinkers in this thread.

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>have one no-no word (retard) in your game
>tumblr and twitter wants your head on a spike
>"b-but sjws dont exist you incel!!!"
>"okay maybe they exist but all you do is talk about them, they arent doing anything!"
>

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For a man who wants to write you sure have a hard time with insults you little bitch

There is NO character in the history of vidya that is more unlikable than Frogger in this game. NOTHING can come close.

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Yes.

>no slips into their old personality
Next time actually play TWEWY, you autist.

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less trying to be insulting and more trying to point out a fact
you're mentally ill

>Phoneposter
Post discarded.

>Pyramid
So it's a slippery slope fallacy?

Still weak and a sad attempt at deflection

Maybe after freshman year you’ll get your head out of your ass long enough to learn how to take shit

cope

>t-that doesn’t count
The absolute state of Yiikfags.

God I wish that was me

>I wanted to make this game about a guy who's a piece of shit unlikable character
well technically he succeeded

How the fuck is the intro of that song so good sounding and then it just turns into whatever the hell that is.

Me on the left. Being hugged by his tail :)

>reddit spacing
anyway i'm married with 300k in the bank and certainly older than you
get some chill kiddo

By who actually?

Probably. He looks Irish

Hahaha holy shit.
Imagine getting outdebated this hard.

No wonder you’re such a cuck bitch lol

>300k

I have 3,000,000k in the bank. Whatchu think bout that?

It's like GladOS from Portal.

>after a while you build up an immunity to it. It can get very bad

It would have to have some significant redeeming qualities that other RPGs dont cover
The issue is that there are many RPGs that cover the exact same ideas and attempt to be in the same spiritual vein as Yiik, but do it better
Yiik is not even the best game in the incredibly niche appeal it's going for

>implying i waste time with women
women are awful lmfao what the fuck

>if you keep doing it he kills himself
Nice, fuck depressed faggots

Writing a character 101: if they are an asshole they have to at least be compelling.
I.e see the trope of the asshole genius

>Flexing on an anonymous forum.
I'm a married woman myself, but I'd totally divorce a loser like you.

>seething this much after someone proved you wrong about Neku
ABSOLUTE STATE

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slippery slope isnt a fallacy

Oh speaking of also in that scene you can try to kiss him but he tells Alex to fuck off and never try that shit again

>being a woman
holy shit lmfao
i'm married to a man, what the fuck is wrong with your hamplanet ass?
women are literally incapable of loving or respecting men like another man can

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wow a woman who likes divorce
what are the odds

This, desu. Imagine being upset over the fact that you succeeded in making your character have the desired effect on the audience.

Checks out that a faggot would have no ability to take shit your dick is already covered in it

>Imagine getting baited this hard.
I'm not actually a woman you fucking idiot, I just talked about how flexing on an anonymous forum means jack shit and is just shitposting.

oh god is this harpy still talking to me like she's a normal person who can just do that? hilarious

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im not playing this game ever but for the people who played it " Whats so unlikable about the protagonist ? " serious answer please

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IMAGINE PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN TO OWN THE FAGS

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Can you not fucking read or at least see obvious timestamps?
That isn't even me
See

sorry i don't talk to roasties

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He thinks he’s smarter than he is, is lazy and entitled and selfish, and the ending isn’t him overcoming those flaws entirely but choosing to try to do something good in spite of them.

You have no ability to gauge normalcy you dumb pole smoker no wonder you get bitchy about depression I’d be depressed too if I took it up the ass all day

I mean, it worked.

Lol I wish gamers would just die

So he's a Yea Forums user?

>he doesn't know about the g-spot
>as gross as anal sex is, i'm still having sex and you're not
honestly though i can't imagine ever trying to fool myself into thinking women are capable of love, you're hilarious

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>tfw he's not wrong

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It's funny how the developers didn't seem to grasp that having a tomb or corpse of someone on your creation can only be interpreted as mockery (Link's tombstone on the Final Fantasy I PSP remake, multiple dead people on the classic Build engine shooter trilogy).

rundown?

youtu.be/ZRjgo__XpxY?t=7696
This is true art.

>sling your cum bolas

Why is Chris trying to rape Leon with poetry?

This.

Hi Lightning

>He actually still thinks he's talking to a girl even though he's been told no twice.
Braindead

you can be a male roastie, roastie

Imagine a happy-go-lucky, optimistic character like Spongebob Squarepants, but that has no humorous qualities and has a nasally voice that is even more insufferable than the worst voice acting you can imagine.

He is a fucking abomination.

You fooled yourself into being a faggot that’s just as bad you dumb queer

I fucking hate it you Yea Forums faggots oversold it to me because an amerifat made it

that's not even the director

Does your brain just have a panic attack and implode every time someone mentions a member of half the population?

Christ, your family and normal friends probably abandoned you long ago.

>continuing to eat the bait

What's it like being a fucking retard, user?

do you mean the humor is flat or that the character is played straight?

>accusations of me fooling myself that men are better to be with when lesbians literally have the highest rates of domestic violence and divorce
let's pretend being gay IS a choice. why the fuck would you WANT to be with a woman? do you think they suddenly turn into ghandi just because they're with a man? you're the real delusional one, bud

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>ever played Earthbound or Undertale?
No
>Oh, well try this game! It's totally unique and not a bad rip of those!

Why do I hate his teeth?

>being this mad that i won't respond with anything but "roastie"
go away, roastie

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Shadow of the Colossus is a deeply beloved game and a lot of people see Wander as being a selfish piece of shit. SH2 is one of the most beloved horror games and James Sunderland does something that's reprehensible, even if there's reasoning behind the actions. In the original GoW games Kratos was a massive asshole and they sold like hot cakes and received glowing reviews. Sounds like this guy just made a shitty game and he's blaming others for it.

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But that's wrong, you dumbass. Even after the end of Week 1, Neku was still concerned with only himself and Shiki. He's still very much misanthropic and has to deal with Joshua passively encouraging him to give into his hatred of others throughout Week 2. It isn't until Neku meets up with Mr. H, Sota and Nao, and Beat throughout the Game that he legitimately starts becoming an actaully better persona and starts applying those lessons during Week 3. There's no instant transformation, it's a gradual buildup for Neku's arc.

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>Baiters getting baited by other baiters.
What a pathetic way to spend a HOLIDAY, it's fucking Easter for fucks sake.

>being prison gay

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I don’t care about rugmunchers anymore than I care about shitdicks you sad gayboy just put the dick back in your mouth already

Pro tip, no one wants to play as a completely unlikable protagonist.
If the protag sucks, the game better be really damn good.

>failing art philo 101 this hard
git gud

Undertale was already a bad rip off of Earthbound.

It helps one of the best girls in the history of Capcom is in it.

God, I wish that was me.

>So the thing is, games aren't art; they're toys for children
No shit Sherlock

just douche your asshole, christ, it's not even hard

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That's actually a decent message all things considered. It's hard to convince someone to change who they are but you can at least inspire them to use their person to somehow benefit others.

Rundown?

You haven't played it

Marble Madness?

>the thing is, games aren't art; they're toys for children
yes
>it's considered in bad form to talk about anything meaningful or thought provoking
you just made a bad game and tried to push your shit down everyones throats.
people don't like being told what to think.

this guy is the type of nigger who unloads responsibility on the shoulders of others and everything is always someone elses fault. forever a victim.

what a fag

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silly user you'll die a whole decade before full dive VR or gene therapy is a thing

There aren’t any kids here for you to try to convert and molest, take your shitty advice elsewhere

RDR2 had you be a pretty bad dude most of the game, this stupid nerd can go fuck off

>tfw you dont even feel the high anymore

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there have been games that have done the "unlikeable protagonist" bit and were at the very least fun, or tolerable. turns out making a game centered around your self-insert, which exposes you as the shitty, cringeworthy person that you are, is not a good idea

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i only fuck real men
not all of us are tremendous childfuckers like you

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>Night in the Woods has a literal womanchild who dropped out of college, hangs out with criminals, fights with her parents, and doesn't have a job
>People love Mae and Night in the Woods
Maybe YIIK is just fucking garbage you retarded ginger cunt

The human body is stupider than you'd think. I don't know the topic well but a lot of cases of depression are a result of physical and chemical factors. A lot of "things which seem like they would be fun" cause dopamine releases in your brain, the "feel-good" chemical. As it turns out, dopamine is limited so if you over do it then you burn out and can suffer a chemical depression.
That's not to say that all enjoyable things are likely to lead this way, there're a lot of different types of satisfaction, but easy on demand enjoyment is risky and that's what's hot these days. Blame your body.

Yes, I have. Tumblrtale is pure śöÿ and you need to go back.

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>Woman
>Dropout(Badass)
>Hangs with criminals(badass)

Not remotely comparable to protag who is just a loser

That's not Andrew Allanson.

Why are you so fucking eager to push the self-insert meme? The game is bad on its own merits, you don't need to spread lies.

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Absolute cope

I’m not the degenerate here you’re the one with the yapping cockholster and dicklust

hey yiikesdev, hows it going

Sure thing lefty.

People who think videogames can't be an art medium are brainlets. That said, most of them aren't art, or at most are very shitty art.

Any creative outlet can be art. Movies, books, games, paintings, drawings, etc.

says the lolifag

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Lol you’re the only one prattling on about your sexual preferences you dumb fairy we all know none of your kind can ever shut up about it

>People who think videogames can't be an art medium are brainlets.
Ironic.

He’s not wrong

The problem is that there were characters that started out unlikeable that did it better than him

The problem with his game is that everything else was garbage

still mad that i'm having lots and lots of sex with my husband and you're stuck with shitty women, huh

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The one stuck with shit is you bro what’re you even talking about

A character can be an asshole and still be liked and relatable at a certain degree. He seems to confuse unlikable with assholes.
As long as a character's bad motives are clear and somehow make a bit of sense to the viewer/player it can be relatable and at the bare minimum bearable enough. This is why sometimes people will buy a game with a bad guy as a protagonist. Even when they justify their deeds with egoism and other bad traits, it's still relatable because their imperfections reflects trough ours more than a perfect and annoying character. And in the end the game still show him as a bad guy.
This might not be the best example but Cartman can be an example for this. He is an asshole but viewers love him because he has is own stupid reasons and they know he's portrayed as an idiot that will eventually fail.

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BASED

I was posting another example for you.
This is someone's edgy self-insert from a Fire Emblem romhack that's also an unlikable piece of shit that the game wants you to think is a badass.

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>self lubricating pleasure hole that orgasms multiple times with full body shuddering ecstasy
vs
>grunt splat rod put into literal, LITERAL, shithole
LMAO

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how does it feel that women would rather fuck violent murderous rapists than even look at you twice, Yea Forums?

I was very confused by his windjammers knockoff tee shirt.

Better to have dickshit than being biologically compelled to get into a crippling relationship with the lesser gender whose looks dwindle past age 20 but still manages to cheat on you behind your back.

I'm nearly 30, I've gotten used it. Women would rather fuck a dog than talk to me.

>women would rather fuck violent murderous rapists than even look at you twice
[citation needed]

The best example for someone who is supposed to be like the protag of the game, someone who acts like a complete dick to people and comes off as a social moron with no regard for how others would think, is Larry David from Curb. No one in their right mind would think Larry is a good person or a likeable person but the situations he gets into all stem from that and create something incredibly entertaining and occasionally relatable.

Character is played straight. If there is any attempt at humor, I don't remember it.

Maybe it's because he's supposed to be a character for like a children's TV program, but goddamn.

I know this feel.

Yiik more like Y2k copies sold.

Tomb Raider?

lol get a load of this cope

This terrifies me because I've always been a man of the median. It's weird now that religion is getting fazed out of relevance, politics is turning into it's replacement where the party is god and it's will is word.

It is simply the way of the world
I will diminish, and go into the west

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Glover?

Only ones coping are straightfags who even in this thread are complaining about women. Enjoy your denial.

Is this the most pretentious game ever made?

The reason people really dislike Alex isn’t because he’s just an asshole, it’s because he’s a loser and the vast majority of people are wired to hate losers because they’ll lose social status.

We are reverting back to that time. Soon only the rich men will be allowed to breed with their harems of beautiful women.

>basedcomet
kek

That's not art that's JONATHAN

CHARLOTTE!

you have to be an absolute illiterate in mental health if you think the only cause of depression is the person itself. the only way it is even comparable to a choice is as if you had to choose between dying or chopping off your own leg

t. psychologyfag

fuck off vinefag

boy you are dense

This.

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all this bitter whining tells me is that he's every ounce as unlikable as his self-insert

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>be an unlikable person
>never seem to understand why
>one day realize that it's because of *insert reason here*
>feel like a changed man
>decide to make a game that is supposed to teach unlikable people how to grow
>nobody likes the game and nobody learns how to grow from it
>"IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ART, RETARDS!"

Hopefully this is the tremendous failure he needed to realize that he still knows nothing.

I respectfully but firmly disagree with you.

need to taper off bro. reset your dopamine reserves and shit. gotta start treating porn and media like MDMA

Me in the top left hiding behing the tree.

aight. fuck you then nigga

man you guys really wanna like this game don't you

>Liking a good game is bad

Do people who obsess over games being art actually engage with art pre-1960? Do they read literature? Do they watch arthouse films? Do they appreciate paintings and classical music? Or do they just read genre fic and comics (if that), watch capeshit and shounen anime and listen to 4 chord pop?
>inb4 'old thing good'
That's not my point, my point is that it's embarrassing to pretend to know anything about art if you've only engaged with stuff from the last 60-70 years that's usually entertainment anyway. That's what leads to retards thinking that having a good plot makes something art.
I actually think that video games can be art, just like anime, comics and genre fiction can be art, but the key word is can. They are almost always entertainment and that's fine. Something like Silent Hill 2 or Shadow of the Colossus, I can totally see how that could be art, but that's a minority to go with NGE, Tatami Galaxy, Corto Maltese and The Book of the New Sun. I'd even say that the very best game design can provoke the aesthetic emotion, like Super Metroid and Castlevania SotN, which are also brilliant in visuals and music. But when you get someone calling The Last of Us and other B-movie games art I can only think of picrel.
Especially considering how much of the cultural consciousness is entertainment, and considering how a key trait of the art movement of the last 70 years is mixing up of high and low culture (see Pynchon and tons of other postmodern literature and film, no I'm not a retard who treats postmodernism as a boogieman, this is a legit tenet of postmodernism) I genuinely think that most people can't tell art from entertainment, and so justify something being art rather than entertainment by comparing it to something else which they think is art but is actually entertainment. It's embarrassing to talk about art if you don't even know who Milton, Cervantes, Ozu, Bresson, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Goya or Friedrich are and most of these people probably don't.

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People can identify with unlikable protagonists; you just need the protagonist's actions to be logically sound given their circumstances. People are happy to go along with an asshole main character as long as they're not just being a dick just for the sake of being mean. Sounds like this guy is just a shit writer with delusions of grandeur

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guys coulda fooled me since release these threads get 200 ips mixed with shitposting/pointers and analyzing wish this board would make up its mind already

>SotN
>Good game design
Bait.

From what I can tell game is shit not because the MC is "bad" but because the game is a poorly developed borefest made by people who don't understand the genre.
This actually gives me hope for my game, if it's fun it will make it.

Unrelated, but the ending of earthbound is the most soulful thing in vidya

Games can be art, but most of them are not.

Games like Nier Automata can be art, games like CoD cannot.
Movies like Citizen Kane can be art, a random B-movie zombie flick cannot.

A game has to be GOOD for it to even be considered to qualify as art. This incel simulator is clearly a few good miles far from that.

>but because the game is a poorly developed borefest made by people who don't understand the genre.
didn't stop undertale

>A game has to be GOOD for it to even be considered to qualify as art.
This disqualifies Nier, then.

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should've called it Yiikes

The only REAL arts are
- Architecture
- Painting
- Sculpture
- Literature
- Music
- Dance
Everything else is not art. A videogame can have some art in it but it isn't art as a whole. The same apply to movies.

You’re worse than any woman you sensitive nancy. Cope some more.

This.

>Music
>Dance

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The guy is actually a huge Dick Masterson fan and patched in a third ending where you have to find Dick, who apparently red pills you. As far as I know no one has found out where to find dick or how to trigger the new ending.

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It's kinda bizzarre to see that. He also is blaming SJWs for the game's luke warm reception, when truth is, the game is average at best. Only thing it has going for it is its art style.

Music is the highest form of art, buddy.

Ok, but why?

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It's "art style"doesn't make up for the other aspects of visual representation like the awful framerate

fucking retard

>basedfag loser.
I kek'd.

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As I said, it's bad overall, but the art style and artistic direction was interesting.

first digibrony and now this douche? are all dick fanboys massive faggots?

Based

That guy isn't even the developer behind the game, right? Why do people keep posting him?

lemonade

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Say what you want about undertale but at least it had some level of creative focus,especially if you compare it to

Some are, I'm still mad digibro pussed out on fighting a cripple. I would have paid to see that fight.

>Copying Earthbound
>Creative focus
Go to bed, Toby.

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