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battleborn is going to be our best seller, we've put more hours into each hero than borderlands!
So could EGS.
Better petition your senators to pass digital ownership laws
well if randy pitchford said that then I am confident steam will still be going strong for another 20 years
>epic store shill says steam is dying
really makes you think
>HALO Is comming to pc on steam
>DMCV is steam only
>RE2 is steam only
>SEKIRO is steam only
>Ace combat 7 is steam only
>fucking Yakuza comes to Pc and is STEAM only, it sells so much that they want to port the entire series to pc
>STEAM IS DYING GUYS. BUY OUR GENERIC FPS GAME
This, also don't forget the "story" of how gearbox started.
You mean Pitchford, the guy that stole money from Sega to fund his own games? Really that Pitchford, the one who is currently facing charges because of child pornography?
I guess it must be true then.
the epic games store is a joke, got a fifth of steams features but they keep bribing game developers to get more exclusives to force people to use their shit platform, there is absolutely no reason to use it otherwise.
plus, randy pitchford is an egomaniac faggot and anyone who trusts him should be hanged.
So what caused the falling out between Gabe and Randy?
>facing charges because of child pornography?
wat
gabe didnt let randy make half life 3
he had a video of a 18yo cam whore in his pendrive and to americans anyone that isnt 40yo with blue hair and 3 black children is LITERALY a child
Why is Gearbox so focused on killing Valve and Steam? Of all the developers that signed with Epic they're the most vocally vindictive.
why cant this retard shut the fuck up, everytime he speaks sales of borderlands 3 go lower
Sure thing randy.
Imagine if EGS ends up being fucking nothing and randy has to crawl back to steam and suck everyone's ballsack to release whatever trash.
Was that the one where Randy was bragging about how Valve was going to be called Gearbox at first, but Randy won the name from Gabe in a poker game? A story that Gabe basically had no idea what the fuck he was going on about?
Remember; always do the exact opposite of what Randy says.
They want revenge for the review bombing.
>Epic Games store is a needed monopoly killer
Jesus fuck does nobody know what a monopoly is or are they legitimately unaware of the dozen other digital stores that have existed for years alongside Steam? Being the biggest and best doesn't make you a monopoly, fuck.
Gearbox may be a dying company in 5 years
But he has been attacking Steam even before the reviewbombing.
Yeah like a decade ago some website asked Randy where he got the name Gearbox from and he give them this entire BS story about him and Gabe betting on the name in some sort of riverboat poker game.
you're aware that 18 is legal in the entire US, right?
Randy always was a delusional fool
just go along with it, you don't want to be an anti-chinese racist or something
Despite everything you just said I would STILL rather give them money than give a cent to Gabe the disgusting fat kike. What's he or steam done or contributed in the past half decade?
Says the guy responsible for colossal failures such as Aliens: Colonial Marines, Battleborn and Duke Nukem Forever
An actually functional store
Regional pricing
Photon
It's an online video game store. What makes your dumb ass think it has to "contribute" anything?
Why are you even seriously asking such a retarded question?
>5 years
That's a generous number to give them. I'd say 3 years at most
No way EGS is not bombing. They'd have to vastly outbid Valve to get exclusive publishing deals. Since the only reason for EGS is greed, I don't see that happening.
>you
but I pirate my games???
Source? Sounds like a funny read.
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Fuck you Randy, you money-grubbing pedo
How about Valve actually make some fucking videogames?
How about they go back in time and not create and facilitate and harness the early access cancer? Or the loot box microtransation cancer? Or greenlight which opened the floodgates for absolute fucking waves of trash? Or waste time on a controller literally nobody gives a fuck about. Or a worthless OS. Or dumping money into VR a still birth meme. Or buying IPs like Dota and putting out absolute aids like Artifact. Or try multiple times to sell user made mods and take half the cut?
Literally kill yourself steam cuck
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>"The story begins when, and don't ask me what led to this, Gabe Newell and I were in New Orleans together and we decided to get on one of those river boats to cross the river. As chance would go, it turns out we accidentally got on a cruise boat instead of a crossing ferry. But, we made the best of it. The food was pretty good and there were gambling tables there with dealers and other players and so we got into a little poker game. It was like Maverick or something – playing poker on a river boat near New Orleans. But we were playing poker, which, as you know, is a form of gambling. Can you see where this is going?
>"People that know me well know that I love playing poker. It's a great game about making decisions with incomplete information, but where the decisions affect the outcome. So it's a lot of fun and it's really helpful in learning how to separate the challenge of making best decisions from the reality of results since even the worst decisions can be rewarded and the best decisions can be punished when non-deterministic and/or unpredictable factors are involved. So I like to play poker whenever I have a good opportunity. But from the experience I had with him, I don't think Gabe had played a lot of poker before that night.
And he prattles on and on, boring as shit, the best part is this:
>Update: Valve has informed us that Randy and Gabe didn't meet until after Valve had shipped Half-Life, making Randy's story seem ... well, unlikely. We're trying to find out what happened right now.
>Update 2: Well, we just heard from PR and they confirmed that the story is a fabrication. Pitchford is apparently going to get in contact to explain what happened. We can't wait to find out his excuse for taking advantage of our Pollyanna-esque faith in the inherent goodness of people, and, by extension, telling tall tales to you, the people who are buying his games.
And he never followed up.
>RedditLands 3 going exclusive to epic is a "monopoly killer"
Oh the ironing. This is an elaborate joke isn't it? 13 levels of comedy.
it's the truth though, I like to shit on Randy and he is a retard for bringing an usb drive with important files (and a video of a camgirl squirting) to a medieval themed dinner but it was child porn
I do believe borderlands3 is not going to meet expectations. The franchise is fatigued, there is little hype, and being in epic is not going to do it any favors. It might break gearbox.
>Valve hater / Epic Store supported is a butthurt Half Life fan
How unsurprising.
wow look at all these things existing but in no way being forced on you. sure makes one mad
>Buying games
I pirate 100% of pc games. Valve are still kike cancer. I don't give a fuck about epic store other than liking that its eating into Steams monopoly and making pathetic steam fanboys SEETH
If gearbox can suffer disasters like Aliens, they'll get through this just fine, especially with epic giving them money for exclusivity
How the fuck are they still in business? At the very least, why doesn't 2K step in and tell Randy to stop being such a fucking moron and shooting himself in the foot?
>and epic is the solution
Yeah, naw
Are you going to sit there and pretend your totally fine they focused on making a controller and VR instead of making Team Fortress 3? You're a joke.
What a coincidence, because Gearbox will probably be a dying studio in now to now years.
It'll still outlive EGS by 8 years.
Imagine trusting this guy on the matter of digital storefronts when Gearbox had a partnership with G2A.
Why would I trust a con artist who can't even take justified criticism?
I'll never use EGS, but hopefully this makes Steam sack up and start developing games again.
That said I've moved away from PC gaming as it's a waste of time platform.
tell that to the people suing the guy
So the dumb fuck wants one monopoly to die so a different one can take its place?
>18yo is child porn now
americans, there is no saving you, you're too far down the rabbit hole. but you've had a pretty damn good run
It's hard to believe someone would buy that story in the first place.
But the new king will put him in the inner circle
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Steam drones are honestly pathetic at this point. Reminder that this is the guy that calls me an Epic store shill chinkoid in these threads
I have an idea for lyrics to his next song
>Anyone who opposes Steam must be destroyed
>Anyone who opposes my love of Gaben
>Will have the Steam troops deployed
>I'll never use EGS, but hopefully this makes Steam sack up and start developing games again.
This. Steam drones can't see the forest for the trees
This is an extremely sad post.
I won't buy BL3 but it'll still be a massive success
Not as sad as Steam drones
I remember the first time I ever heard Randy's voice was in the 2004 E3 preview for Brother's In Arms. He seemed so passionate about games back then.
Don't do coke, kids.
His is dying right now so.
Maybe he was a piece of shit during BIA 1 and 2, but we just didn't know.
(You just gave me nostalgia and reminded me of when I first played it and I beat it as a standard FPS without using tactics lol)
Forests are made of trees you fucking retard
He certainly would know about video game related entities dying
This meme needs updating
>GoG
>This is fine
>Bethesda Launcher
>This is fine
>Uplay
>This is fine
>Origin
>This is fine
>GMG
>This is fine
>EGS
>This is NOT okay
Why do shills keep claiming that this is about "anyone who opposes steam" or about "monopoly"?
>Dumbass bird has shit opinion
>Smarter bird has better opinion
>Bethesda Launcher
>This is fine
>Uplay
>This is fine
>Origin
>This is fine
Steam drones did not like these at all
How is this guy not in jail. I thought he was a pedo?
Never take financial advise from Randy "I swear I thought it was a video from our battleborn porn reddit officer" Pitchford
Wow. What a prediction. It might rain in the next 6-8 years.
I am a steam fan. I have had a Steam account for longer than you have been alive. I do not mind those stores at all. Epic is the scummiest piece of shit out there.
Continue getting yeeted on by literal furry virgins, Xi Pang.
>"Steam may be 'a dying store' in 5 to 10 years"
>"Epic Games Store is a needed monopoly killer"
I love the blatant contradiction here.
The fact that Epic Games is competing effectively with Steam means that Steam is not a monopoly, so there's no monopoly to kill. But if Steam does die, that will decrease the number of competitors in the market, bringing Epic Games one step closer to becoming the kind of monopoly which does not currently exist.
I was skeptical about the idea that Tencent is actually driving the Epic Games shilling across the internet, but I'm starting to believe it, because only a communist could have such an astoundingly poor understanding of capitalism that they unironically go with a narrative like "we need to eliminate this competitor because competition is good".
Epic has even said that their tactics aren't sustainable, so how does Randy even think this could be? Does he think that devs are going to make their shit EGS exclusives when they aren't getting bribed with mountains of Fortnite cash at the cost of tons of sales?
>The fact that Epic Games is competing effectively with Steam means that Steam is not a monopoly
Except when Steam drones say Epic is not competition.
>competition
>selling different thigns
pick one retard
>Epic has even said that their tactics aren't sustainable
Post a link to this quote because Steam drones keep restating it
>benefits devs
You mean publishers
They want revenge for Battleborne doing so poorly.
>because only a communist could have such an astoundingly poor understanding of capitalism that they unironically go with a narrative like "we need to eliminate this competitor because competition is good".
Except I don't want Steam to die, I'm just okay with it becoming a lesser store. Don't be so dramatic.
No one thought any of those were fine besides GoG and GMG. The rest don't offer competitive pricing or features, at best they're bloatware and at worst chinese botnets.
Stop trying to make yourself look less retarded, Randy.
pitchford is basically molyneux ver. 1.1
I don't know why anyone would listen to him
This is your brain on the EU.
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Oh yeah, we sure got told that one time too.
He hasn't produced anything as bad or as unfinished as Godus
duke nukem forever?
and what has steam got to do with any of that?
retard.
You can put that more on Broussard's fucking retarded insistence on switching engines wholesale the instant something shiny came out when it was with 3d realms.
Colonial Marines
Even back in the early days there was Stardock and others. Steam was never a monopoly, they just ended up getting to #1 by having regular sales to attract people to their platform.
EGS has been buying exclusivity, but so far they haven't done anything that's good for the consumer.
Not career destroyingly bad or unfinished
Neither is A:CM and I LOATHE that game.
Godus is an utter, unfinished, mobile phone piece of shit. MN09 isn't even that bad and it destroyed Inafune's career
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If anyone actually says Epic "is not competition" then I don't agree with them. Obviously Epic is competing with Steam. It's just not the kind of competition which is actually going to benefit people who buy games, at least not directly. Competition is good for consumers when multiple companies are selling the same product or service, because this competition provides an incentive for each company either to lower prices or to increase quality of service.
Epic Games, meanwhile, is competing by paying publishers and developers not to sell their games anywhere else. This isn't going to benefit people who buy games because Epic, having exclusive control over these specific games, has no incentive to lower their prices or to increase their quality of service in any other way. They know people need to come to their store to get these specific games right now, so the people who buy games are not seeing any of the usual benefits of competition. If you think of an individual game as a commodity, rather than video games as a whole being the commodity, then Epic has monopolies on several of those games. In this sense, it is true that Epic is not competing, at least not fairly. They obviously are a competitor in the game retail market, but again, it's not the kind of competition which benefits customers directly.
Of course, all of the above assumes that their customers are the people who buy games. There's another way of looking at it, which is that their customers are actually the publishers and developers. Epic is really competing for their attention. That's why everything Epic does benefits the publishers and developers, not the people who actually buy their games. The same could be said of Steam's business model, of course. In a way, the publishers and developers are Steam's customers, while gamers are the commodity. In that sense, making exclusivity deals with publishers and developers seems like a fair tactic... but only Epic is currently doing it.
>VALVE! GABEN! IT'S ME, RANDY BITCHFORD! GIVE ME THE FUCKING ATTENTION ALREADY!
I don't know who you are so I obviously wasn't quoting you. Look at the image in the original post. The article describes Epic Games as "a needed monopoly killer" with the (erroneous) implication that Steam is the monopoly, i.e., the article says that Steam needs to die — for "competition", of course.
this
and they won't even get a (you) anytime soon.
but it doesn't benefits me the customer. Epic was """"supposed"""" to have lower prices due to the lower share but the game still cost 60 bucks on digital, Epic store simply doesn't have interesting things on it for me to pay on the platform, Steam/Valve at least have good sales every now and then and I couldn't care less about no HL3 or issues with Dota and hats in TF2
>“I don’t think we plan to do it forever. I expect that we’re already seeing the ecosystem come to life, from a sales and users perspective,” Allison told a GDC crowd today at his Q&A
They're not going to outright say that they don't have the money to buy every game until the end of time, but this sounds like they can only set aside funds so many times to buy up AAA exclusives without it actually being profitable enough to offset the bribe money.
Well obviously they're wrong - I want Steam to be around, but I wish they'd figure out their policies; do they allow controversial games or not? Do they allow porn games or not?
Despite what Valve drones say, Steam still curates, they just do a shit job of it.
>but the game still cost 60 bucks on digital,
And that's assuming you're in the right region.
>Tencent can't take user data, they would need 51% stock for that
This is such a horrific misunderstand on how businesses work, holy shit
>"steam is a monopoly"
>origin sells non-EA games
>gog and gog galaxy exist
>ubisoft sell their games both on steam and uplay
>blizzard launcher has exclusivity for destiny 2 and black cocks 4
You guys are fucking retarded
>Trying to argue what someone should put their money into.
>Buying games.
I'm going to buy a new game on Steam for every shillpost in this thread. FUCK Epic, FUCK Tencent, and FUCK the Chinese.
randy is just defensive as hell cuz people are grilling him over the epic exclusivity. none of the other devs that signed with epic really have much social media prescense
What kind of samefagging was this?
Okay retard, I mean, randy
The gaming landscape also completly changed, with looter-shooters being released every few months, a lot of them superior to Borderlands. The series already showed fatigue when that Pre-Sequel thing came out and being EGS-exclsuive will fuck over digital-sales over the first few months.
I've yet to see an exclusive I want to even download the client for. Good luck being the bargain bin of platforms epic.
>being reverse shilled this easy
talk about a drone
I deleted and reposted because I found a typo. I guess the other guy deleted and reposted so that his post would again be shown as a reply to mine. If you can still see both > and the other post which had almost the same text, you'll see the typo that I fixed.
>none of the other devs that signed with epic really have much social media prescense
Thankfully they don't otherwise they'd be harassed endlessly for choosing not to release on the Steam monopoly
I don't pirate to "hurt" epic games, I pirate because I want to play a game that I don't want to wait a year for. Whether or not it "hurts" Epic games is irrelevant, I just want to play games.
and yeah, pirating doesn't hurt anyone except people who get butthurt about it
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Their shady file snooping got me to uninstall the launcher and their exclusivity deals have made me pirate games I would have happily bought, like metro.
MSM shilling Epic Store is all we need to know about the Epic Store.
More like 5 or 10 months.
FUCK COMPETITION I FUCKING LOVE STEAM I HATE ANYONE WHO OPPOSES STEAM, ANYONE WHO IS VALVES ENEMY IS MY ENEMY TOO I JACK OFF TO STEAM BECAUSE I LOVE STEAM LIKE MY OWN GIRLFRIEND (WHO USED TO BE MY RIGHT HAND) WINNIE THE POOH, TIANAMEN SQUARE, TIBET, TAIWAN xDDDD PRAISE LORD GABEN
hahahahahhaha keep going bitch! im gonna screencap each one
>uses may
>estimate range doubles
Pitchford is a cuck who uses as many broad terms as possible so if anything he even remotely got close to guessing comes true he can kick back on the bathroom sink he's handcuffed to and say he told you so through piss stained teeth.
you ok buddy? need me to call 911?
>tfw even my normie-friend knew Randy and refered to him as a piece of shit when we talked about BL3 being EGS-exclusive
no need to go nuclear user
what exectly is wrong with the age of consent being 16 like in most countries in europe? Like, someone can go to prison for being 18 while the other person is 17 with FUCKING CONSENT. 1 year difference and it makes you a pedophile law vise. I was 16 and had a 21 year old boyfriend and nobody cared becuase it was a consenting relationship.
Everytime I read EGS I think of that retard kid tranny phantom and his Embers Ghost Squad and his fucking pathetic workplace shooting.
>As chance would go, it turns out we accidentally got on a cruise boat instead of a crossing ferry.
not even 3 sentences in and it's unbelievable.
>GOTTA USE EPIC STORE BECAUSE I'M TRANNY PHANTOM
AAHAHAHAHHAHAHA SEEEEEETHING
KEEP GOING KEK
>fucking Yakuza comes to Pc and is STEAM only, it sells so much that they want to port the entire series to pc
Are kiwami 1 and 2 any good?
If someone was paying me a few million dollars to talk shit about Steam, I'd say all this stuff too.
>be steam
>be ok with competition
>dont force game studios into exclusivity deals
>let other platforms do theyre thing
Why is everyone supporting Epic when Steam supports competition? Epic tries to establish a monopoly by forcing exclusivity.
>guy buys games he wanted to buy
>"seething"
>telling him to keep giving money to Steam because you hate Steam so much
What a confusing post.
Okay. I'm going to enjoy playing all of these.
How's that tiananmen massacre going ching poster?
I wonder who would be around longer Steam of Gearbox.
>Epic tries to establish a monopoly by forcing exclusivity.
Funny because that's what Steam did years ago, but most Valve drones don't remember/try to redact history like the Chinese
>I'm going to pull shit out of my ass as facts, so my strawman sounds good!
mental gymnastics at its finest
what an imbecile
Until Epic gets something as good or better than the workshop I won't even bother looking at it for games at this point.
>Make game
>Release game on your own platform
>EXCLUSIVITY!!!
>Almost killed Sega
>Set back the Aliens franchise by a decade
>Introduced internet memes to mainstream video games
>Tried to screw over Obsidian
>Tried to screw over 3DRealms
>Tried to screw over eduke32
>Screwed over several companies who worked with his company
>Almost ended his company multiple times with his retarded ideas
>Can never take criticism for anything, even things that are his fault
>Never takes responsibility for any of his screwups, all of them get pushed onto other people.
>Uses armies of lawyers to sue competition into oblivion even when he is wrong.
>Won't disclose agreements without lengthy court battles of which none of the people he signs contracts with can legally fight
>Removed all Duke Nukem games from GoG
>including the sidescrollers of which you cannot buy anymore, meaning piracy is the only way to play them
>Re-released a half-baked chocolate duke port to Steam ten dollars more expensive than the Atomic version that runs like ass because none of his developers have Build engine experience.
>Is probably a massive piss fetishist.
>Has an odd number of pictures of himself on toilets or bathroom floors
>Sung a song about how asshurt he was over a twitter argument to hundreds of investors of his company
In all seriousness, pound for pound: Is there any one man who has been more damaging to video games than Randy Pitchford?
I don't care for Epic, I simply don't want to give them money, I give zero fucks if they succeed or not.
But obviously they will keep monopolyzing exclusives while the tiananmen massacre guys keep throwing them money to do it.
Btw, have fun working 996.
>forcing exclusivity
>"that's what Steam did years ago"
>posts Half-Life 2 image
The general consensus on this board is that it's okay for a company to sell its own game exclusively. I mean, they didn't have to pay anyone off to get it done. Maybe you should have gone with another example, assuming you have one.
You know Steam workshop is bad for modding communities right?
Yes that is what an exclusive is - brava steam drone, brava
hi randy
This has always been my confusion on the topic. The argument that it always boils down to is people saying the epic game store is going to force steam to improve and will take away it's monopoly. Like Epic will stop paying for exclusivity deals if it becomes as popular as steam. There is literally no indication that Epic will not form a monopoly if this works out in there favor. They will buy every AAA release and a HUGE host of indie games as those small or even single dev teams would probably take literally any dollar amount past 5 or 6 figures thrown at them. Not only that they will have no reason to improve their own platform because guess what they aren't catering to consumers they are catering to publishers the money won't be spent on R&D for the launcher it will be spent on buying the next exclusive, and then the next exclusive. The epic games store will always be the shitty form it's in now and then it'll be too late to go back to steam because everything will be exclusivity contracted to Epic. People just seem to like to eat their own foot these days if it makes them unique and against the tide.
No one here is mad because Fortnite is exclusive to the Epic Store
you steam c.ucks are mythical. future generations will think I am lying when I try to explain the level of corporate cuckoldry you are displaying right now. cup the balls bitch
I like Steam but I'm fine with someone lighting a fire under Valve's ass. Nothing wrong with a little competition.
>There is literally no indication that Epic will not form a monopoly if this works out in there favor.
Which is why I'll keep using Steam - I just want Epic to be a success.
If Steam drones had it there way, there'd be only a coke or a pepsi
Please work on your English, for the sake of everyone else’s intelligence. Nobody wants to debate an ESL moron like you.
Yeah, I suppose steam releasing games they made by themselves on their platform is the same as Epic bribing publishers to sell only on EGS. Wait, no it isnt. Dumb insect
If I quit getting login attempts on my epic games account 10x a week I might consider it over Steam
You forgot.
>left an usb drive on a restaurant with company info and videos of underage girls streaming on a porn site (chaturbate or something like that).
>his excuse "WELL I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE UNDERAGE"
its retarded how i have no choice where i can buy the game
in a free market i get to choose where i buy the game
looks like i wont be buying half life 2
The guy doesn't even know what a monopoly is, yet makes such claims.
speaks the ching chong tiananmen massacre cocksucker :^)
>>his excuse "WELL I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE UNDERAGE"
was there another incident where he left a porn streamer vid on a flash drive or are you just making shit up
>>looks like i wont be buying half life 2
>WTF WHY WON'T YOU BUY THE MOST EPIC GAME OF ALL TIME HALF LIFE 2 - IT LITERALLY DEFINED BLOCK STACKING PUZZLES IN FPSES FOR YEARS TO COME - HANG ON WHILE I CALL UP THE STEAM PACIFIERS TO UHM, AHEM, DEAL WITH YOU
you can always pirate seething bug :^)
Are you retarded?
I know you weren't old enough to remember this, or maybe your country was just figuring out how to roll out a censored internet, but there wasn't really another launcher at the time of Half-Life 2's release for Valve to sell their game on. You could even buy Physical Copies of it in stores if you were lucky enough to have a pc gaming place near you. Then the orange box came along and put the game on consoles.
He's a chink, its is job. Dont hold it against him
proportionally the Epic store has more Epic Games than Steam has Valve games
quit being a pussy and spend some real money. you arent poor right? youre not going to save steam with such meager purchases
Yes, there was nothing like Steam - but you know what was better? Buying games and installing them from the disc
Now we have a cadre of homosexual Steam drones like yourself who won't stop shilling this shit service
I'll repeat what he asked since you completely skirted the question and 'answered' like a true politician;
>It's an online video game store. What makes your dumb ass think it has to "contribute" anything?
arstechnica.com
kotaku.com
(sorry for posting kotaku, I'm just copy pasting links)
somethingawful.com
I could be posintg a dozen more, but just search randy pitchford usb on google.
ah yes, so the solution is, instead of having 1 shit service, to have 8 of them. makes sense :^)
Daily reminder that Valve created the PC gaming industry.
Yes, you could buy PC games before, but it was a complete shitshow. The only PC games you could buy at Gamestop was WoW and its latest expansions, and maybe a few simulators.
But of course underaged faggots who don't remember the days before Half Life wont know this.
another npc broken.
This, the healthiest thing you can do for the epic games store is keep using steam until they stop the exclusivity shit and improve their platform. If you actually want Epic to improve and succeed, use steam until they make actual improvements. I want nothing more than two titans constantly becoming better than the other.
user I'd love nothing more than go back to CDs or other forms of DRM-free games (CDs were considered DRM, but still). That's not going to happen, because devs/publishers are retards that still think it helps them with their sales. GOG is the next best thing, but it doesn't have a lot of games (again, because devs/publishers are retarded and think it will cost them sales). Then Steam is the next best thing.
So please fuck off.
>implying you even play videogames
sad.
You brought this state of affairs unto yourself and others, Steamosexual
Granted, Steam IS the best of them, but so what? Epic isn't any better or worse than Steam in what they do to PC gaming as a whole
Steam has more Valve games than the Epic Game Store has games in total.
Randy Pitchford is a compulsive liar and a serial embezzler.
>trying to kill steam
You guys know that that would literally mean that our steam games would be gone? If valve goes bankrupt N O N E of us would have any legal right to the "game licenses" we bought on there.
>iam all for imigration as long as its LEGAL
>also niggers or spics or terrorist are not welcome
thats what you sound like
That's weird, 5-10 years is also the death of Randy's interest in kids.
>Why is everyone supporting Epic when Steam supports competition?
Except they didn't. They offered steam as a cheap and widespread online DRM platform for major and minor publishers. They aggressively disrupted the physical industry and succeeded. It got so bad you couldn't even fish a PC game out of the bargain bin without being prompted for Steam install. Were you even playing PC games back then?
sorry im late guys
sorry but how does that answer my question? how does having 8 services fix the problem? also without steam, all these great jap game ports wouldn't happen. yakuza on PC would never happen, DD on PC would never happen etc. I know you don't really enjoy games, only interactive movies, but in the long run steam promoted purchase over piracy on PC and that got great developers interested. hopefully thanks to steam games cannibalize enough sales from your stupid movie games that they stop being made
I also didn't install steam until 2014, desu. I was a pirate fag/console fag
Randy Pitchford is the Eminem to Gabe Newell’s Trump. Good job on Valve for ignoring this alcoholic buffoon. Hope they continue to let their competition shoot themselves in their own foot.
how so
i play steam in offline mode all the time
>I also didn't install steam until 2014, desu. I was a pirate fag/console fag
Then you really don't know how bad Steam raped PC gaming as a whole you youngfag piece of shit.
A good example is COD4 - I could give you my copy of COD4 and you could install it and play it right now. My copy of Orange Box? Literal trash.
I just fucking got this...
>Literally paying for air.
>Its called Steam.
Fucking hilarious!
>also without steam, all these great jap game ports wouldn't happen
is this bait
or are you ignorant to what epic is doing
>You could even buy Physical Copies of it in stores
>You could even buy Physical Copies of it
>Buy Physical Copies
>Physical
Is the ching chong education system really this bad? The disks even had all the files for the game on it and you could get around the steam launcher with a few minor edits not even a full crack.
>cod4
>calling someone else young
fucking A
>Discord trannies love Epic
What a coincidence.
A lot of things wrong with your assumptions
>There is a monopoly
Seriously, learn your definitions before you throw them around. Steam does NOT have a monopoly.
>Epic is forcing Steam to improve
No, they're forcing them to also start buying exclusives. Steam already IS better than EGS, but the only way they're 'competing' is because of forced exclusivity. I should not explain why you wouldn't want this.
>Epic will stop paying for exclusivity deals if it becomes as popular as Steam
Literally why would they? If they can become as big as Steam with fewer features by buying exclusivity, it means it's an insanely good way to make money and they won't stop doing it ever.
The rest of your post is just more assumptions relying on the actual goodwill of Epic, when they're clearly shown to have 0 of that. They don't give a single fuck about their users, Sweeney made that perfectly clear.
>THAT STEAM IS AWFUL HOT FOR AN AWFUL HOT COFFEE POT
They're fun, and a worthwhile follow up to 0, but if you haven't played 0, play the original versions before you move onto the rest of the series.
>Then you really don't know how bad Steam raped PC gaming as a whole you youngfag piece of shit.
how retarded are you? my lad, I've been playing games since the SNES, I even had a terminator2 chink console in the early 2000s with hundreds of games on it
also why wont you answer my question. how does having 8 services fix the fact that steam ''raped pc gaming''? and why do you ignore the part about steam convincing hardcore pirates like me to buy games instead, and getting lots of ports to PC? the entire yakuza saga on PC, would never happen because of steam, for example.
kill yourself shill
steam and epic are just stores
whats the big deal?
>Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is a first-person shooter developed by Infinity Ward and published by Activision. An installment in the Call of Duty series, it was released in November 2007
It was to demonstrate that PC gaming ill needed a savior such as Steam - you fucking retard
>GABEN IS FAT
>OOPS I DROPPED MY COFFEE POT
>18
wrong
Yea I was. Maybe the whole industrie supported moving to a online platform? Imagine having to press youre games on physical discs. Its simply not efficent. Corporations have to source disc´s and distripute them to stores. This may cost more than the 30% cut they hand out to steam.
>dude you could just buy the disk and play
and you also had to register for each game
if it had online forget about it ever having people after a month , and if they stopped the servers forget about ever playing it again.
Epic is buying out third party exclusives even after they were advertised on other platforms and is yawing monopolistic tactics to artificially create a foothold in the industry, but all it is doing is injecting business practices into the industry that further hurt the consumer. Also, Randy pitchford and EGS like to pay money to buzzfeeds and bloggers to shit talk Valve and praise Epic and it’s just an unnecessary shit show that should be looked down upon in its entirety.
Most Epic exclusives also come to Steam after the contract is expired
>2007
>old
loving that clockwork.
Honestly, i think it was the Gearbox story, Randy probably thought he would get away telling a lie like that, makes me think Valve's doors closed to him afterwards
Just stop posting these stupid "gaming journalism" articles. They're rarely accurate, and they spend most of their time pushing a narrative bought and paid by the company they're praising therein. Then, you get easily manipulated and impressionable retards like OP that parrot the opinion being fed to them. Between the headline and the caption, it's implied Steam is a monopoly when it clearly isn't.
Might want to reread the post you replied to user, because you just agreed with everything they said.
>every consumer is currently happy with steam
>it must die
It's funny how much they hate their customers, and this doesn't even have anything to do with politics this time. It's mind boggling how quickly they will leap to show you how much they hate you. You know I liked BL2 a lot but I will never touch anything by them again due to this.
Also, forgot to add, what about Amazon? its basicly the same shit. Sure you could go to a store and buy youre shit but companies make more money offering theyre products on Amazon. They can cut out the distribution costs
And Epic doesn’t do this? You seem to think that just because Valve decided to use Steam to sell their own developed platforms it somehow placates Epic and validates their monopolistic practices with respect to third parties. It doesn’t and you’re a broken record who hasn’t listened to the multitude of counter arguments that have told you time and time again your point is moot in our current industry.
don't forget the pricing. in certain countries games are 70$+ on EGS despite them taking only 12% f the sale. why is that?
why is that bad
steam does not pay for ads
the devs do
Except the exclusives people are pissed about such as Metro and TOW are not made by Epic, and the exclusivity was by bribing the publishers. What's your excuse now?
>all these steamcuck crying about their purchased games being obsolete after steam dies
i have no excuse...
to not download a free launcher
steam actually saved a lot of older games when gamespy went offline. it's not a perfect service but I don't understand how people can hate it
It’s bad because I as a consumer have been removed of choice: i.e a monopoly. This kind of thing is understandable if you developed the game yourself, but when it’s third party and advertised on other platforms, then you’re just a cunt trying to force consumers into behaviours they might not want.
talk about a broken record.
check the tos under services.
lol show me one “steamcuck” crying about this. It’s common knowledge if Steam ever goes down everyone will get a GoG like link to download the raw files of their games. It’s part of their TOS.
You haven’t said anything Mr. Non sequitir. Stop being such a brainlet.
>implying this retards ever read the tos on anything they sing up for.
delete your steam account
EGS shills definitely haven’t.
did you check it?
>This kind of thing is understandable if you developed the game yourself
no its not because it takes away the consumer's choice of where to buy it
Reminds me that I should delete my user there. Thanks.
Either say what you need to say or don’t waste people’s time. All services have a line about the right to remove your games if you violate TOS, retard. Has nothing to do with providing you a link if ever their servers get shut down.
broken record repeating what other user said
go read it yourself buddy.
t. Broken record
isn't it like a 6 month exclusive? not even a big deal, that's the average amount of time western games need to get fixed after release
NO I REFUSE!
I WILL NOT INSTALL *TWO* PROGRAMS ON MY COMPUTER!!!
NO STEAM = NO BUY
NEVER EVER FUCK EPIC STORE REEEEEEEE
LOL
Yes but at least there is still justification for a developer wanting to use their own platform. It is unlike a developer who has advertised on all platforms and then decided to pull the game at the last minute only to one store just because the store provided a huge lump sum payment. That’s sort of stuff leaves a bad taste.
Let people do what they want, seething Epic shill. Stop freaking out because we don’t want to agree with your tranny opinions.
ironic
dead services good
alive and community maintained bad
my only problem with uplay and origin is them being forced on me when I bought far cry3 and blood dragon on steam
I'll install any launcher except epic store. currently using origin and battlenet besides steam, got uplay because I wanted to play that zombiu game but it was shit
>implying we are stopping anyone from selling their games on other stores
Yes. Give me more of your tears, Epic shill. So delicious.
>Steam monopoly needs to die
>so our Epic monopoly can rise
u seething?
u sound seething
>alive
Lmao where are the numbers of sales then?
GOG could have been pretty good competition. The Epic Store is the poisonous cancer that will force the situation to collapse one way or another.
On top of that, the Epic store is actually more likely to kill GOG than Steam.
you got that discount for that new borderlands in the key store right?
just passing on the savings on to (YOU!)
It has been the most reliable online video game store for 16 years with a functional and easy way for gaming communities to gather. They have constantly brought new features to the platform. Steam was the first to give huge discounts.
Steam isn't perfect but don't be fucking retarded.
Just post the sales numbers Epic shill. Why are you so afraid?
Well that's basically the core argument I'm trying to make. All companies, Valve included act in their own self interest. The companies, supported by consumers, upheaved the old system in favor of steam. I have no qualms with the same inevitably happening to Valve and it's competitors. Even if their methods are regarded as underhanded like they were in 2006-2010.
LMAO
10/10
chink bugs destroyed.
>EA creates Origin almost a decade ago
>Most EA titles are Origin only since around 2011~
>Not even timed exclusives, just entirely sold and stored on a different shitty launcher
Where was the backlash for Origin? Were all EA titles so shit that nobody cared? Everything on the Epic store is also objectively shit. Borderlands was always a mediocre co-op shooter with Bethesda tier balance and scaling and Reddit tier humor. Metro was a shitty version of Stalker on rails with 0 replay value and game-breaking bugs like the stealth system. What else is there? Apex Legends? You niggers serious?
>shitting on Americans using information made by a retard
>meanwhile Muslims burn down Notre Dame and kill people with knives saying "we will replace you"
okay Muhammad
based
>Where was the backlash for Origin?
Either you're a zoomer or have no idea what you're talking about. People bitched a ton back when they started this shit with BF3 and all the games til then. Fact is tho also that people got used to it since they literally didn't stole any games of steam last minute like epic has multiple times so far
>epic shill
I just don't know why you fags suck Gaben's dick for turning PC into a closed platform. Games being attached to faggy online stores is bad in all cases.
Are you all a bunch of zoomers who don't remember PC gaming before Steam?
>20 years
Gaming will be radically different by then.There won't be any Steam.
dude I too miss searching on my own for patches and info about a game
nothing beats the feeling of buying discs and hoping they don't pull on them a few months later.
>People bitched a ton back when they started this shit with BF3 and all the games til then.
Nothing like this. Of course, Yea Forums wasn't a fifth column Twitter/Reddit 2.0 basedboy factory like it is now.
>Fact is tho also that people got used to it since they literally didn't stole any games of steam last minute like epic has multiple times so far
Stole games? lmao. Why don't you just not buy or play them then?
No you retard YOU don’t get it. Not throwing a hissy fit ISNT sucking dick. It’s moving on. You’re the one sucking Randy’s dick and being his willing golem to cause a rabble so he can make more money off your stupid ass.
>literally 0 japanese devs are touching EGS with a ten foot pole
that should say enough about how scummy that store is
OH NO OH NO OH NO
Pirating doesn't hurt people normally because there is no inherent cost to the dev/store for people who don't buy their game. Epic is paying developers/publishers an upfront fee to cover an unspecified minimum number of sales, meaning Epic doesn't make a penny from the deal until it exceeds that number.
Fine I will post it again.
I hope the EGS dies
Most of Yea Forums still doesn't use Origin, stupid zoomer. The backlash was never as loud, but that's because Origin was never as relevant.
>The largest video game publisher of all time
>Not relevant
16 is the most common age of consent in America you twit.
NOOO MY STEAM LIBRARY THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING WE'RE GETTING FUCKED BY THE CHINKS
JUST
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People buy lots of EA games — on consoles. Maybe normies buy their PC games too. But do you seriously think Origin was ever popular on Yea Forums? It literally never was.
None of this matters because games are already free
#Triggered
Imagine being so butthurt by shills that you desperately have to waste your time searching for their posts in an argument where no one wins, except companies.
>something may be true several years from now (if you continue to let me to invest exclusively in their competitor
wow my opinion has changed so much
VALVE IS TOO BIG FOR EPIC!
VALVE GETS ENOUGH GOLD BECAUSE OF DOTA 2 AND THE INTERNATIONAL BATTLE PASS!
VALVE WILL FUCK EPIC GAMES DEEP INTO THEIR ASS WHEN THEY GO DOWN!
10 social points per image
a daily grind.
>same shit pops up many times a day on website you use
>type a simple string to check how bad it is
>only took 2 mins
ok
>NOOOO STOP DOCUMENTING MY SHILLING I DESPERATELY NEED TO SHILL FOR EPIC
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>j-just ignore it, it will surely go away
fuck off retard
I wasn't against it brainlet.
>stop pointing that out
The devs actually make the game. Epic has said again and again that it only wants to benefit publishers, not devs, not consumers.
So why the fuck would anyone use epic? There's no excuse.
consumers are sheep that will listen to anything "journalists" tell them to do or think
I still don't get what added value this new epic game store is supposed to provide for me as a consumer.
Are the games cheaper?
Does the platform have some review/discussion functionality that steam doesn't?
Platform exclusives doesn't really cut it; I can just pirate.
why do all the games "journalists" shill for flop massively then
>But do you seriously think Origin was ever popular on Yea Forums? It literally never was.
Some of the biggest lolcows of all time came from the era of Origin. Tortanic, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition were all Origin exclusives. You think nobody here bought or played any of these games?
it will get a review functionality in that the publisher can remove bad reviews
They're scamming investors.
>hey, ignorant investor, you should give me loads of money so I can apply a marketing strategy proven ineffective more than a decade ago
When it comes to piracy it's not just some black and white thing, there's actually several demographics that play into it, those being
>1. demographic that wouldn't buy the game no matter what
>2. demographic that wouldn't buy a game no matter what if they can pirate it
>3. demographic that would buy a game if it's more convenient than piracy
>4.demographic that will pirate a game as a sort of boycott
The first one, which is said to be the largest demographic clearly does not hurt sales. The second isn't really that big, and generally is not rewarding to combat beyond taking the basic anti-piracy measures. The third is actually very large, possibly larger than the first, but you can easily prevent them from hurting sales by providing a good service and throwing in a few anti-piracy roadblocks; doing this is what allowed Steam to become as big as it is today, and not providing comparable services is going to cost Epic. The fourth is literally a boycott, only they're more likely to stick to their word and not cave, it's arguable whether you can simply claim this is an issue of piracy harming sales when a good portion of them would have pirated or boycotted anyway.
>5 to 10 years
That is like and eternittfor modern standards
I refuse to download Origin.
I pirated ME3 and Inquisition. Both were pretty meh.
I was pissed when, after buying it on Steam, I had to download another shitty launch platform to play. At least Blood Dragon was good, though. Of course, I immediately uninstalled the game and uplay after finishing, and I haven't purchased an ubisoft game since.
Okay, but I asked what added value the platform provides to me as a consumer.
That doesn't help me at all.
it will add nothing for you as a consumer. it is build for the publisher and the chinese goverment to get your data
My brother-in-law is exactly like this. He lies just to lie and tells tails for absolutely no reason. Not even to benefit himself, just lying for lying sake. What are these people classified as? The fuck is wrong with them?
>3. demographic that would buy a game if it's more convenient than piracy
>4.demographic that will pirate a game as a sort of boycott
I fit under these, I used to just pirate games but with steam it was convenient after ~2010 because I didn't have to track down the millions of patches modern games needed to be playable. but I gotta say, for point 3, anti piracy roadblocks were never relevant, I always waited for cracks when it was convenient to pirate, don't really play games on release anyway, never really did either because when a game releases I'm already playing at least 2 games.
for boycotts, I usually don't care except in extreme cases, I'm never buying a gearbox game until randy retires for example
I know at least 3 people who do this. I think it's a way to vent stress
Uplay store is ok tho
and origin sucks dicks I hate that one
GMG and GoG are great with their deals
Bethesda has a launcher?
Epic would be ok if it didn't go into steam's files to check out what I like to buy from there...
it also isn't cool that it checks out what my friends buy from steam
this is like going into Target and they ask me what I bought from Walmart, like what? fuck off
So, I have no incentive to use it.
I doubt Epic will be able to woo enough exclusive titles to keep itself up.
Is Epic stupid or are they scamming publishers?
The only Bethesda launcher I know of is for ESO, but all MMOs have title-specific launchers. It's sorta baked into the whole MMO genre.
i dont care about those launchers because they have regional pricing and a shopping cart
and they dont sell my info to chinks
>It's okay when Valve does it
Beyond cucked
dont worry, user, hes retarded
kek
>Friendship ended with STEAM
>Now EPIC is my bestfriend
cringe
based
Attention whores/borderline personality disorder.
Watch Lost in Space (the new one). Observe Dr. Smith closely. The emotional response they want to generate in you is designed to overwhelm your reason so you side with them.
It's just pathological lying, user
>steam is an evil monopoly, here's to our competing store making exclusivity deals left and right in an attempt to 'kill it' so we can be the evil monopoly
With the whole epic launcher debate I try my hardest to not sound like a coorporate dicksucker who fondles gabens balls, because I swear to god I have my gripes with steam, but fuck the epic store and its blatant, unashamed anti-consumerism methods. Competition is supposed to be good for the consumer, wasn't that how it was supposed to work. If your business model is making the entire video game landscape shittier as a whole, fuck you. Make me get the same games but cheaper, make the launcher use zero resources, hell make the launcher optional to begin with and just have me use it to install the games. Here's the kicker, steam is a damn good service as it is, and if you want to be better than steam that's going to be tough, but there definitely are ways to get it done. But effectively trying to "force" people into using your ass launcher by making games be on it exclusively, I swear to god I'm pirating them out of principle because I would feel more guilty supporting that practice than I feel guilty not paying the devs (who don't seem to be particularly concerned with my interests either having signed that deal)
>Oh no he has researched and defended his opinion based on reasoning, hes the problem not me who has no standards and purely cares about only my day to day 'fun' amount!
>japs haven't been epicpilled yet
don't worry, it'll happen soon enough.
OHH SHIT GUYS SOMETHING *MIGHT* HAPPEN IN 5 TO 10 YEARS DONT SAY I DIDNT WARN YOU BETTER POST THIS THREAD 4 TIMES A DAY fuck off
>You know Steam workshop is bad for modding communities right?
No, the workshop is only bad for retarded drama queen modders that bitch about not having 100% of the rights to the mods they upload.
>"I don't care if the game requires another launcher"
said nobody ever
>Randy
>Killed Duke Nukem
>Fucked over Sega
>Lied countless times to his fans
>Twitter manchild
>Literally lied like a week ago that Troy rejected a role when the dude himself said he was rejected by Gearbox
>BADASS BATTLEBORN
>Drive with questionable porn and company info
>Intern stole him 3 mill and didn't notice
If I was Tim he is the last person I would want to see talk about my store.
Why are Steam drones so cringe?
Was there a new Lost in Space after the shitty movie?
Please enlighten me, chiks, why I should use a store that does not benefit me, the consumer?
I stopped pirating due to GOG and Steam giving me regional pricing and making the hassle of torrenting not worth it. Nothing on your store is good for me as a consumer.
>I stopped pirating due to GOG and Steam
Same old story, same old bullshit
You pirate anything and everything not tied down