What did he mean by this?

give me tldr not going to listen to all that

>complaining that gamers feel the need to identify with the main character
>the main character is literally a visually identical self-insert of the man saying this
>"My shitty game failed therefore it's because video games are toys for little kids, not because I intentionally made a boring game with a loathsome protagonist that's no fun to play as"

Are all indie devs all butthurt holier-than-thou retards who think they're too smart for the all the peasants who don't love their work? Because the overwhelming majority certainly are.

>2 minutes long
>tldr

What?

He may be a retarded asshole and his game might be completely shit, but he's not wrong

someone brought up the art as a shield argument which more and more people are using. if something isn't good you can defend it as a means of expression. then when people don't like it they don't understand it because it is subjective art.

even that's not worth your time or attention user
2 minutes that would be better spent doing literally anything else.

He has no idea what the 90s were like and should be banned from the industry for what he released.

I played through the game and hell I even liked the style of it and the mystery for most of the game, but holy shit that ending burned me out bad. The shitty teasing with the third ending just burned me out even more. The guy certainly could have made a pretty good game had he not been so fixated on making himself such a shitty character having an "arc" and then having a nonsense ending.

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But its not even a good game.
Dumbass tried to do something that should only be done by a veteran designer. Idiot is green but thinks he's amazing.

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"It's not my fault my game sucked"

YIKES!

Video games are a different form of art than movies and books. This is like complaining that books don't have a good soundtrack. He just sounds like a salty cunt.

What makes me so angry is that this nigger admits that this is his first attempt at making a game. Motherfucker, nobody gets it right on the first try. I can guarantee that your favorite author probably had a TERRIBLE first book. Why do you think that you're going to create this new era-defining game ON YOUR FIRST TRY? Are you really that full of yourself? Are you really that much of a fart-huffer?

Gamers arne't the problem. You're just incompetent.

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Even as someone who likes Dick Masterson and shit, the whole shoe horning him in and making him important for the third ending feels super wanky. It's neat to have a cameo of someone you like, but to have that person be the super most important person and having a weird big Easter egg hunt involving them feels really NOTICE ME SENPAI

>but he's not wrong

Actually he is. He thinks his game failed because it's just 2deep4 all the dumb gamer kids but it actually failed because it's literal garbage that isn't the least bit entertaining.

I though he said it was his first 3D game.

Oh, I thought he said that it was his first game at all. What else did he work on?

This, ending shits on what was up to that point a really fun mystery with an interesting theme (you can’t find her grow up and move on with your life)

I don't know lol google it

It's not about his game, he's right to say that games are not being developed as art currently, they're being developed as entertainment products who's highest ambition is to have as much legitimacy as a MCU movie. It's pathetic.

Aesthetically I dig what they were going for. Mechanically the execution was really disappointing.

After speeding up the actual gameplay to a tolerable level I couldn't make it to the end. I got to the point vella meets her robo 2000 self. How far did I get? I'm thinking of watching a no commentary playthrough to see if it ever got any better or not but I can't imagine it picking up at all. I did get to see two endings and was not impressed the joke merge ending and the unplug ending. What other endings are there? I also probably don't have the proper context to frame it depending on how far into the game I got.

Have they found the third ending?

>Ian Ran

It's fucking
Ann Rand

When you see someone use cope in a sentence in 2019 4channel, this is what would best describe it. He's partly right to be fair, but you don't need characters that are similar to you in order to identify you. Does the game ever go into why the protagonist is a shitty person? I feel like I should play this game in order to avoid writing/making something like this when I'm working on my game. Going out of the gate and saying it's MOTHER inspired seems to be one of the however many sins of game design.

Except that's not true.

Look, I'm not going to have a conversation about if games are art on a website that is notorious for fucking hating video games. But you're just wrong.

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The game speeds up a bit after Essentia since she can shit out plenty of damage, and there's like 4 hours of gameplay at most after that.

I like how he just pretend like there has never been an asshole protagonist in videogames.
Like there's even a whole genre of story driven games where nine times out of ten the protag is an asshole, they're called point and click adventure games.

You were about an hour or so from the ending if you rushed through the countdown that starts shortly after that point. As for other endings there is allegedly a way to get into the tower at the top of the map after Dick Masterson (Chad in game) gives you a key but nobody can figure it out and it might not even work right.

Also forgot about the one thing that really grinded my gears about the ending was that it contradicted pretty much most of the shit they said in the main story. Who the hell builds up something for 20 hours and then in the last hour of the game just go and say "lol it was all a lie" and thinks that's good storytelling.

Lemonade.

>Pretentious ass can't admit his game was shit.
Before you try to subvert things and "expand the medium" you wanna make sure you actually know how to make a good game.

Jonathan Blow talks about the wasted potential of video games and video game discussion all the time, but first he made amazing games that show he actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

Then don't reply you nigger

What's this about dick masterson?

>Jonathan Blow talks about the wasted potential of video games and video game discussion all the time, but first he made amazing games that show he actually knows what the fuck he's talking about

Yikes!

store.steampowered.com/app/259760/Two_Brothers/

why is Yea Forums (or at least a few people on Yea Forums) so obsessed with this game?

outside of Yea Forums no one even gave a shit about it when it came out. It was marginally even reviewed, and even less discussed. It's not a ToRtanic, its not a battleborn, it's not even a lawbreakers, yet here you still go on about this mediocre game like it failing is some giant achievement or something.

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>A post-modern RPG

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>Yea Forums is all one person
>why da fuck is Yea Forums tallking about video games???
>wheres da wojak thread????!!?!?!?!

Yea Forums is responding when asked
if you're asking why Yea Forums knows about it its probably from a member of the dev team shilling it here, of course I don't know that but this is my intuition

Copying Prince of Persia's gimmick doesn't magically turn up an "amazing game"

>no one even gave a shit about it when it came out
and thats why he's so booty blasted

>"You can't make a protagonist that's a piece of shit who has to grow and have gamers still like him and the game"
How about a character that gets worse in terms of being a bad person as the game goes on, on a limited engine and still loved by people?

What a pretentious hack

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Guess there's not enough anime tiddy for you in the Witness.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Being pretentious is only a problem when you can't back it up with anything of substance.

After somebody (me) made the first thread about the quote Resetera found out about it and started sperging about the game again.

Postmodernism is cancer and you people who get pretentious about video games of all things need to fuck off.

>Haha, alpaca xD
That wasn't the final boss
Still a cringefest
youtu.be/biBMpUR9BSM

If this was a game about some effeminate hipster nu-male surrounded by other leftist, SJWs dumpster fires, slowly taking the red pill, finding his balls and regaining his sanity, I would play the shit out of it. Even if I couldn't "identify" with the character at first.

Final boss could be some (((puppetmaster))) controlling a bunch of ninja trannys.

I think that the problem is that every character in yiikes is piece of shit.. I haven't seen a single likable character.

I like how he describes the heroic characters such as the protagonists in Ayn Rand novels as "bad guys".

youtu.be/jvXZcGZZYE4

tl;dr he's a pretentious twat who is blaming gamers for not liking his game.

I liked all the main party members except Chondra who comes off as an anti-stereotype diversity pick.

He's just mad cuz he bad lol xD

>no one liked my game because it sucked so games aren't ART, THEY'RE TOYS FOR DUMB CHILDREN, GAMES ARE TRASH

yiikes

Because it's the true "pretentious hipster bullshit" of a game we often talk about. We always mention how games like Earthbound, Lisa and Undertale are pretentious and trying too hard, but this game is fascinating because it's truly that, the author truly things he's crating art, truly believes he's being artsy by narrating everything through the main character, that he's being fun and quirky with the Alpaca shit, that he's being Avan garde with the weirdo music that makes no sense. It's the truly the most pretentious game there is right now, and the guy not admitting his game is garbage and going on a tirade how gamers are to blame instead of his own inability to create a good game only adds to this fascination.

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I understand that he wanted to make a artistic video game but what is the point of making something supposedly so profound and complex that no one will understand it? At that point there is no distinction between a good piece of art and a bad one if the only person who can see any good meaning in the art is the author himself.

Besides, he doesn't understand why video games. Before the story, before anything a game, comes the game part. If your game isn't interresting to play, then why bother? You can shit on Undertale all you want but it ties the battles and how you react to encounters to the story, which makes it interresting, even if the gameplay itself is quite simple.

If he really is such a big brain author as he claims to be then I'm sure he's smart enough to dumb down his content for the masses.

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It has nothing to do with complexity or profoundness, gamers are just inherently unable to enjoy games about unlikable (not “”””unlikable”””” fuck off TWEWYfags) due to the personal element of playing AS the character.

But yeah the gameplay is servicable at best and falls apart at higher levels.

Enjoy some shit

youtube.com/watch?v=CkoIUhl8jKU

Oh shit have this too why not

youtube.com/watch?v=k-aIqQaevLk

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I lost my shit with the names he picked for his irl friends.

>gamers are just inherently unable to enjoy games about unlikable

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we get it, the dev is a shitty person and blames his shitty writing on people who "don't get it"

WE DON'T NEED 4 THREADS IN 48 HOURS TELLING US THIS?

>it's pretty clear very few people actually played the game
nice bait, marketer

Travis isn’t unlikable either. You guys don’t get it probably because the quote is out of context, Travis is an asshole but he’s entertaining because it’s in an unbelievable way that nobody would get away with irl and has the power to back it up, like a power fantasy of sorts.

did you play it? I rest my case. if you did you have my corndolences.

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Travis is charismatic and fun to watch even though he is a douche. I think what he means is we 'gamers' cannot enjoy playing as a complete piece of shit with no redeeming quality whatsoever. I suppose he is right though, I wouldn't want to play a game where the main protagonist is annoying, boring, uncharismatic, etc etc etc. Doesn't seem fun or interresting. But if the dev is also a gamer, wouldn't he know this too?

Good going Yea Forums, you ruined another indie dev. Because of you, we'll just have nothing but boring generic RPGs forever.

Alex has redeeming qualities like any real person but he’s still kind of annoying and pretentious and lazy even at the end, but that’s part of the point of the story is that self-improvement is an ongoing thing.

Unlikable characters work differently to unlikable people. You can love a character who's an asshole in fiction, but if you knew him irl you'd probably strangle him
Travis is a great example of this. You'd probably never want to be his friend, but he's fun to watch and you can get invested in what he's doing. When your character is such a piece of crap that you don't even want them on your screen then you fucked up

He literally says YIIK is supposed to be Earthbound 64 if it were ever released. I’m done. Skip to 3:05
youtube.com/watch?v=I7H0hrM7ff4

>describes his self-insert character as completely unlikable

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The entertainment value is in seeing him grow as a character while reacting to the story and growing, Travis is a cartoon character. The fact that most gamers refuse to accept the former as legitimate characterization is what he’s getting at I think.

He isn’t a self insert, the only thing he has in common with the dev is using a 90s conspiracy forum.

>says his game's too deep and artful for video gamers
>it's everyone else's fault, not the fact he made a shit game
>targets the normie gamer and that is why his game failed, even though normie gamers don't play indie games

>insufferable host
>asked the host to do voice lines for the game, host is lazy millennial, keeps putting it off
>game gets released, host sees it's getting a bit of attention(keeps mentioning Sony/Nintendo)
>now it's worth his time so he phones in some lines and gets them put in the game
>this is likely why the VA'ing in the game is so fucking terrible since it's all phoned in garbage from friends

>plays victim entire time, that evul SJW's ruined the game
>says Yea Forums actually likes the game, even though it gets shit on here all the time
>totally not the fact the game's shit

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Along with looking the same and talking the same.

doesn't look the same you shit. Good job falling for """fake news""" bullshit and propagating garbage because you saw a picture of a random dude in front of a poster.

Keep giving the dev more material to build a defense for his shit game saying he's getting bullied by trolls.

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There's no entertainment value in a character who is so obnoxious that you don't even need to personally deal with him to hate him. Nor is there any real investment involved. A character needs some way to hook you, otherwise they're not going to bother seeing things through

YIIK is a masterpiece and gamers are too stupid and immature to get it.

Does this game have transexual characters? If so I'll be interested

I'm sorry, he added a fake beard and put a little more red in his hair.

Okay, this is not an attack on you, I just want you to explain a few things since you played the game.

Why did you give a shit about Alex, even though he is a unlikable piece of shit? Why would anyone give a shit? Especially since the game isn't very fun to play, has bad soundtrack and isn't pleasing to look at. What 'hook' would someone have to play the game in the first place?

I identified with Alex and thought he acted very logically.

>starts naming random authors and characters no one has ever compared his game to as an excuse why it didn't sell or get good reviews
>interviewer calls old no government Rand far-right out of nowhere

I'm surprised they didn't fit Trump in there somehow.

Reminder that it's just an excuse to blame people for not understanding your work.
There are plenty of games where a protag starts out as shit but gets better as the story progresses, and a shitton of those games were brought up in the last thread.

Why are indiedevs so entitled?

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>game is shit
>it's everyone-who-doesn't-like-the-game's fault for being fucking plebs

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>complain about gamers needing to identify with the character
>doesn't realize he's complaining about trannies and lefty fags

no one play that crap

>Game journos was the only one complainíng about the MC
He is secretly /ourguy/

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Someone posted a video of a battle with fodder enemies and it lasted 5 minutes. If any of the Final Fantasy games pulled that shit people would hate them.

>random authors
he named two very mainstream authors that even I've heard of and I never even read books

A lifetime of avoiding taking responsibility for anything.

>Awful music
>Awful gameplay
>Unappealing art style
>Terrible writing
>"IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT THAT THE GAME WAS SO POORLY RECEIVED"

He's just butthurt that no one liked his shitty game.

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YIIKes

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>Character is a idealised version of him
>Character is from a shitty subculture everybody hates that the author is from
>He wants us to think it's not just a shitty self-insert gone wrong

>I wanted to make the video game equivalent of a Chuck Palahniuk novel
>Chuck is a gay communist liberal who writes 2deep4u stories
>B-but I'm not a hipster
Sounds about right

you may not know but a lot of people have not followed this title with any attention and only come to shitpost and meme ironically on the title. I'm getting more and more certain as someone who has watched this title be shilled here and despite being called a shill researched the product and actually played it pirate with game engine to make the experience bearable that in maybe 4-5 years or whenever the titles starts hitting 2.99 price points contrarians will start trying to defend it earnestly having played it during college highschool years taking their first psych course.

The game is undeniably flawed and poorly written. There are facets which are interesting but ultimately as a product and form of entertainment is fails. As a form of artistic expression if the creator is happy fine but they can't dictate to the masses that it has any intrinsic or extrinsic value and so they lash out in frustration.

This game sucks don't bother with it. If they release a game maker tool with the assets, then what they built could be used as the basis for an interesting product.

blood type: faggot

I'm illiterate and I know each one of those authors entire catalogs by heart give me a title, page number, and paragraph and I can give you story time.

I-it's a golden llama!!!!!!!! Run!!!!!!

I never said they were obscure authors.

I would totally call you out, but I left all my Palahniuk novels at my mother's house when I moved out.
I used to read them when I was a 15 year old goth... never as an adult
Just saying

I followed it or least looked into it occasionally. As I thought it'd be something like LISA with a better paint job and bigger scope.

Disappointing to see what it turned out to be.

Same with this. Was hoping it'd be like cuphead(stuck in dev hell, but eventually released a good product). But this looks like it's getting buried
youtube.com/watch?v=UuSU2Js30wo

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>But this looks like it's getting buried
Well, is it really? I tend to ignore good looking indie games as they usually end up being just that, so I'm out of the loop. That said, it can't be commended enough for being post processed pixelshit that somehow looks tasteful, unlike that whatsitcalled Square JRPG on Switch and so many others.

>user only plays indie games that look like trash
Damn man, you are the king of Yea Forums

Did it hit too close to home, indie "dev"?

there are games being developed on both ends, and it's part of a sort of culture war (maybe not the right word for it) that's going on now between people who want to play video games as actual games (with win/loss conditions, focus on the gameplay loop, etc.) and people who want to play video games for the greater connection to story they provide.

Haven't played the game, what was the ending? Why was it so bad?

Is it actually more pretentious than Sunset though? That's quite a feat. I remember the devs got salty as fuck and tweeted how happy they were that the studio was shutting down and didn't have to make games any more.

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You play a video game so underground even God hasn't player it, then impress all your friends by namedropping it

He is like Yea Forums personified. Fuck this place.

>harookey moorakami

Jesus Christ, he butchered the poor guys name.

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>Implying Yea Forums personified isn't an autistic 35 year old pedophile NEET who spends his time training for Smash "tournaments" against 8 year olds

He's just trying to protect his own ego and make excuses why. I kinda get it, you've worked on this project for years and when it flops, you try to make excuses for why it failed because it's hard to accept that your project that you put a lot of time in was a failure. The healthy thing to do is to accept it and either make improvements on the next game or go on a different career path.
Thing is, it's fine to make an unlikable PC, it's just hard to do so I think if you're not a very skilled writer and don't know how to balance it. A character that's flawed and has both good and bad points is far more interesting than simply an unlikable douche. It's just that you're going to be spending the most time with the PC, so if you don't put in anything actually interesting about the character (it doesn't have to be outright good traits, it can just be something that gets the player interested in the PC), the player will grow apathetic and not care for the story as much. Combine this with the weird terrible music and shit gameplay, you gave the player very little reason to stick around.

>i'm a serious artist so if videogames were a serious art medium people would be taking me seriously

As someone who has read most of his catalogue, I can say that he's definitely not a 2deep4u author. Some of his books get a tad bit more philosophical, but it's all there for you you to read. Cool dude too.

That's Yea Forums. Yea Forums has no redeeming qualities at all.

>You can shit on Undertale all you want but it ties the battles and how you react to encounters to the story, which makes it interresting, even if the gameplay itself is quite simple.
As in Undertale's gameplay only exists as a vehicle for storytelling? Yeah, I agree.

>thinks babby’s first edgy novel writer is 2deep4u
Jesus christ this place never ceases to amaze me

Not technically wrong, but YIIK had tons of issues aside from "trying to be art", in particular the speed, not just in gameplay but characters padding out scenes with irrelevant shit, doing it on occaison could be fine, but you have people talking about shit like tea for fucking ages.

It actually has some interesting shit in it, but it gets kinda buried by the shit.

I liked the Shitty Vella Concert for example, i found it more satisfying then her "real" song after and a better moment, and i liked that Alex was a shitty person and throwing his shit at Corey about how no one cared about his dead sister, that was entertaining scene, Sammy was cute too.

The issue isn't that YIIK was trying to be art, it was that it forgot it also needed to be a Good Game at the same time.

Plenty of music was pretty good too.

>implying Yea Forums isn't a 13 year old chuuni with a boomer mentality selling sodas at school to afford collectors editions of obscure vidya. then one sitting them in his broken home over the weekend to drown out his parent fighting with their partner biologically unrelated to Yea Forums of that year. then coming on here to flex on people who don't even play videogames. with dreams of actually making a videogame one day after they're old enough to open a broker account to make money on foreign exchange after learning market price theory via runescape mobile. who finds being alive itself autotelic enjoying games to the point of being capable of enjoying the shitiest of kusoge and appreciating the most deepest of ludo.

have you even video'd a game today?

I found the decision to make the protagonist so unlikable so fascinating that I could tell the developer had a story he wanted to tell that would be atypical so I stuck it out. Also he’s not nearly as bad as people make him out to be and I found him rambling about inane shit kind of funny.

I'm surprised he hasn't had a Phil Fish SUCK MY DICK breakdown yet.
He doesn't even have a good game to back it up either.

The developer is a cool guy actually he’s not going to have a meltdown and admits in that very same podcast that his game isn’t perfect. I don’t think he’s mad people don’t like his game he’s mad insane trannies are organizing to attack it over stuff that’s not true or exaggerated.

>Implying you cant make an intentionally unlikable character and have people love them.
youtu.be/wlFTRLKboFo

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youtube.com/watch?v=47XW7jx9F9k&t=1s
>one character's attack takes 4 seconds to do and does 24 dmg
>the other takes 17 fucking seconds and does 18 dmg

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blocks your path

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It's because of you, Yea Forums, that I will never make a game, you guys will just shit all over it.

Claudio’s attack also stuns it’s not for damage.

>Getting this butthurt about no one liking his shitty game with terrible text.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

This. The guy obviously had no idea about what he was writing about.

Now now, don't be a pussy

Apparently he's upset that critical reception to his game has been mixed-to-unfavorable.

>17 seconds for a stun

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Videogames are art. Yours just do a terrible job at it

>he's right to say that games are not being developed as art currently
t. some guy who doesn't know anything about video games, because he's entirely indifferent to them.

You were never going to make anything if you allow other people to control you like so.

It’s horribly broken and works on anything, there is not a single person who plays this game and doesn’t put the blackaboo in their party.

That's not true at all faggot. It is the case with many AAA titles like Zelda, but you have games with actual love/new ideas being produced all the time.

Yea Forumsros ....

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Is anyone even bothering talking about this game aside from Yea Forums? Trannies usually go for a shinnier objects.

If he simply wanted to tell a story, he should've stuck to a book. The game part isn't fun from what people are saying, and it's used as a vehicle to the story. He may have a interresting story, but he forgot he was making a video game.

He honestly comes off like a second year art student, incapable of taking criticism. A 2 minute rant about people not liking his game, and all his excuses are wrong.

Yeah, Resetera has been talking about it and making threads here. That’s why they changed it to a webm instead of linking the podcast, they don’t want to give Dick Masterson views

I can't see any game being more pretentious than Sunset.
youtube.com/watch?v=aZly6bW3UMk

>I used to think games are art, but then people didn't like mine so they aren't anymore

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I watched a bunch of interviews with this guy going back four years and I almost feel bad for him. Five years he sank his heart and soul into this game, so I understand why he'd be salty but his lack of self awareness doesn't breed any sympathy. He strikes me as the type who would brand himself as "Alt-indie", he doesn't run with the indie crew clique or all the pretentious indie-celebs in the scene. If only he could us the hard sobering crash of YIIK to channel that fucking bitterness into whatever project he does next. Sometimes it takes a double take to set you right, although the way he sounds when compares shit like a pop culture critic just makes him sound like he should do dumb shit youtube reviews for kids.

youtube.com/watch?v=I7H0hrM7ff4
youtube.com/watch?v=KZTwsoA9JvY
youtube.com/watch?v=DNGfhU7uj4Q
youtube.com/watch?v=21igfFaTLmU

I love how this happened on Dick's Show. He seems to get some good reacts out of people. If he didn't go on and spew all this nonsense then it would've probably been long winder twitter bitchabout.

watching this gave me a headache and I've never been one to care about flashing stuff before
i get they're sort-of trying to emulate the weird backgrounds and music of earthbound but still
also it doesn't help that the game itself looks shit

He says as he does the "detached, reasonable guy" shtick. Why do you care that we care? Do YOU want an award for being "reasonable"?

Nobody actually played Drakengard 2 man.

Yea Forums is so contrarian that you guys now think any criticism of YIIK is from trannies amd retardera.

user, Yea Forums will insult any game in existence, good or bad. If you let that be the deciding factor in whether or not you make a game, you'll never get anything done. You should feel free to make whatever kind of game makes you happy even if it's just some weird gay furry game.

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He should have taken the Japanese game design philosophy. Design great game play fist, then build a world around it. He was so focused on his story that he made the gameplay completely devoid of fun.

>this guy going back four years and I almost feel bad for him
>almost
Same. whether you work on something for 10 years or 1 week, what comes out is what comes out. In those 5 years he learned nothing and kept building crap ontop of crap.

Jesus Christ I think I just got cancer watching 2 minutes of that

user if the dev getting gangbanged for the line “What is the name your parents gave you” didn’t tip you off nothing will.

Now this is a big brain post

Exactly. if anything Yea Forums is probably better then most other communities about engaging with low quality stuff most people write off at a glance and sticking through it and noting redeemable or unique quantities, just look at the fact that people are still actually discussing YIIK at all here in spite of "hating" it.

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Most of it is just mockery of his dismissing criticism as a failure of the medium or criticism of his weak game design and bizarre artistic choices.

Thing is, unlikeable characters are still unlikeable even if there was some deeper thought behind them.
This is why it's an art to make intentionally unlikeable characters, likeable to dislike. Because there is a world's difference between a character that's likeable to dislike and one that's just dislikeable.

What's more, to outright aim to have your main and player character, to simply be dislikeable and not even likeable to dislike. That's just not good.
Games are art, but art isn't infallible just for being art.

>Before the story, before anything a game, comes the game part
I dont really give a shit if games can be art, but one argument I read before is that games are art because of their gameplay not because they're trying to be movies like tlou. Like even something like super mario bros is art because of the way it teaches you how to play like jumping over the goomba, the question mark block making you want to hit it, having a safe situation to jump between two blocks before giving you a dangerous situation to jump across a pit.