8 core CPU

Neat, where are the games? You can bark numbers and buzzwords all day, where are the games?

fuck off shill

*continues to get blown out by my 2 year old PC*

>8 core CPU
is that supposed to be impressive?

I dunno about any of the specs or buzzwords and shit, but actual PS4 back compat, SSD so faster loading and the promise of continued VR support are pretty nice to me. Keep those and as long as they do a decent system + VR launch bundle I'll probably buy it.

>all these mad af PC friends

heh, I'll be enjoying bloodborne 2 on my PS5

fake+gay

t. AMD nigger
Raytracing is the future. Stop halting progress

That game has been announced?

Will it take 4 years to start getting games worth a damn like PS4?

Depends entirely on the games.

>8 core CPU
>navi GPU
>RAY TRACING
>PS4 backwards compatibility
>launch price will be "appealing"
Yet devs still won't be able to achieve 60fps at 1080p.

>*Plays early access indie pixel games*
Haha take THAT ps5!

>Raytracing is the future

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It is
Just not on these video cards and not for another 5 years at least

I can't wait to see how developers will continue to fuck it all up and manage to shit out yet another generation of sub-30fps literal garbage.

You mean the definitive version of every multiplat.

PS5 is going to be downclocked to 1.6
It will still be shit and be beaten by a fucking budget i3

>consoles finally going to reach 60fps 1080p
>LOLNO RAYTRACING IS THE FUTURE
Enjoy your 25fps well lit sewers, console dorks.

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Who else still hasn't had a console since PS2 era?

>1080p
Of course not, every single game will be targeting 4K despite most people not owning a 4K display.

Count me in if bb2 is announced

Yes, but only using dedicated raytracing cores that the PS5 will not have unless the pricetag is closer to 800 per system. Raytracing using software is a fucking powerhog with minimal results.

>Of course not, every single game will be targeting 4K despite most people not owning a 4K display.
You missed the point. The point was that devs are so shit that even if they targeted 1080p they'd still fail to maintain a consistent 60fps.

>can't get hyped for hardly anything games related anymore

Who else /tired/ here?

>buying an American console like the PS5

no thanks

looking forward to another crop of completely generic unreal engine games with almost completely static lighting

What games?

and...60fps
bwahahahahaha

I'm waiting.

>same core count equals same performance
doesn't work like that you dumb nigger

We'll need to wait 3 years before games actually start coming out. Also every Japanese dev except for Nintendo as usual is going multiplat now so it doesn't matter what console you have

I regretted PS4, Bloodborne was the only exclusive worth playing on it. Unless they announce some great exclusives I'll be picking up the next xbox instead.

It will still get outperformed by a 5 years old PC.

No.
I have an One S and I'm not even gonna buy the whatever xbox comes out with immediately until I know exactly what it can do first.

get EDF 5 user its great game

I wanna see how much of these specs are bullshit, sony always backpedals on their hardware's capabilities,

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>>PS4 backwards compatibility
No, I want PS3/PS2 backwards compatibility! Fuck, I already have a god damned PS4, it's just that PS2 games look like dog shit on my flat screen and I want my PS3 games to look even better. If it's only PS4 backwards, they can go stick a fucking traffic cone up their ass.

>an entire year of tech-illiterate consolefags bragging that their console is going to win because they saw some words and phrases in an article that sounded neat
kill me

NO YOU!

Not him but

>stopped being on sale on PSN the moment I get paid
I am upset.

I'll get it next sale.

Get Gravity Rush 2, Wipeout Omega Collection, Resogun and The Last Guardian.

I skipped ps4 but will probably get ps5 just to play sportshit

What about The Last Guardian? It was a great game

TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FORM ANY ALIEN ATTACK!

Wow edgy

>stopped being on sale on PSN the moment I get paid
I was having fun in sekiro and totally forgot about this
FUCK ME
FUCK YOU
FUCK EVERYTHING

>+performance
good
>muh graphix
>MUH GRAPHIX
>backwards compatibility with a console that has like 4 good games
>launch price hasn't actually been revealed
sounds like the same old shit to me

Are we doing this again?

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Nincel says what?

>PS4 BC
Are you kidding me? How is this a plus? If it's not PS2/PS3 BC then I'm not gonna get it.
What the fuck are they thinking?

This, so much of this.
Who the fuck cares, ps4 is so recent that calling this "backwards compatibility" feels like marketing. Of course it's backwards compatible it's basically a pc, this should be the standard its not news. Stop wasting our time and give us what we are actually asking for

>NO LOADING TIMES!

How low respect does sony have for its consumers that they think people don't know what SSDs are. If pc games have loading times with SSDs then ps5 will.

I'll wait to see the games

What did he mean by this?

PS2 sold great, PS3 sold like shit. PS4 sold great, can you continue the pattern?

Lol of course not

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NO GAEM

>PS3 sold like shit.
Did it really?

None of these really sound like upgrades, I think we've finally hit the point of diminishing returns

It wasn't Wii U bad but it was the worst selling console of that generation. If Snoy hadn't gone into panic mode and released the cheapo versions towards the end they would have flopped harder than they did.

Are you people just dumb or pretending?

This

> tfw when ps5 pulls the censorship of snes and blast processing of sega out of a 90s trick book

PS3 surpassed Xbox 360 in sales.

Do you not realize that console CPUs are always ridiculously underclocked because of their shit thermals?

For the first time since sony launched the playstation, I am jumping off the bandwagon. Yeah the censorship sucks but thats just a bonus reason as I was thinking of skipping out anyway. There are only 2 games that look likely to remain exclusive to the console at this point and I even when bloodborne was new I was already a kind of over souls style of game. Planning to get reacquainted with nintendo for the first time since gamecube. Whether that means emulating on a non toasty PC or a switch I have not decided. Going to wait and see if a cheap switch or a good PC offer hits me first.

>There are only 2 games that look likely to remain exclusive to the console at this point
*that I actually wanted

Did you miss horizon and spiderman?

I’d only get it if it can play PS2 games region free.

>get reacquainted with nintendo for the first time since gamecube
Nintendo doesn't produce worthwile games as well. Gaming is dead, just face it

>checkerboard CPU
>checkerboard GPU
>checkerboard ray tracing
>checkerboard backwards compatibility
>checkerboard launch price
Ain't falling for snoy lies again.

Horizon didn't interest me at all. More open world eye candy with no substance, I saw right through their bullshit from the first trailer.

But the ps3 completely stomped the 360. Did it deliver 1080p gameplay? Not often. But the 360 next to never fucking did. The 360 didnt even launch with a fucking hdmi cable.
Also the Cells power was to render many things at once, which the ps3s games made wonderful use of. Ps3 games aged really well, unlike the shitfests of the 360.
Ps4 was a joke though for sure.
I think the ps5 has good potential but only if its super fucking expensive. Which is likely, given if it uses Navi it's gonna have to be expensive.

Nice try, Redditor.

I heard good things about galaxy and at least one zelda from the last 15 years has to be good. Im most likely to pick emulation anyway unless the switch has a decent retro line up.

>censorship station 5
>appealing

No shit, which means number of cores barely means anything. Ray tracing is also highly doubtful, especially in conjunction with 1080p60fps or 4k/8k.

But with Sony's new policies I don't even know why you'd buy a PS5. The AAA industry isn't particularly appealing nowadays and Japanese devs might not even stick if they bully them out.

This is the chance for all you Xbox/Nintendo losers to join the winning side

raytracing is fucking pointless, just another bullshit shiny meme so we dont get 60fps.

It's not 8 core, it's 8core/16thread and ryzen3.

If anything people should be worried about ports since the ps5 has faster cpu than now 90% of the pc market where the standard has been faster 4core/8thread for 6 years now.

Most of us already own a PC though.

My 2016 rig is better than the shit snoy is going to feed to the peasants.

Next gen sub 30 fps games will still be the norm for consoles

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I don't want to purchase a bunch of censored games so i'll pass.

BOOBS ARE BAD AND EVIL, OKAY?

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Your 2016 rig also cost three times more.

>ray tracing on a console
great, now your Gaystation can do 15 FPS instead of 25

Is it going to improve the games game play? Or is it just
>DUDE GRAPHICS
Yet again?

>now
It comes out in a year. And it'll take even longer for it to get games that aren't cross-gen multiplats.

>I heard good things about galaxy and at least one zelda from the last 15 years has to be good
Well that's true but that is still nothing compared to the 90s/early 00s. If we get like 3 good games every 10 years that means gaming is dead, my point still stands. Also no modern Zelda game is even remotely as good as OoT/MM, so don't get your hopes up user

this, all ps4 exclusives are shit aswell

4 core is dead. All the cheap new Ryzens and the Intel 9th gen are bursting with cores. You can't even play fucking AC Odyssey on a 4 core piece of shit without it chugging along like a jogging fatass.

The Ryzens are like 110 bucks right now too, so no excuse unless you live in a favela.

My 2019 rig is gonna crush your 2016 rig at half the pri e you paid for it, I fucking bet.

They've had a lot more experience coding for 8core due to jaguar, and the switch to ryzen isn't gonna be as headache inducing.
Yea it's great, I'm happy more games are actually using cores now. But 8 physical cores still beats the hell out of 4c/8t and 6c/12t.

What the fuck do you think?

Better hardware can't do that, what you're asking for doesn't make sense.

4 core easily hits 70fps in acu
Fuck you talking about?

Touche. For every information about performance and backwards compatibility there's this shit.

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>launch price will be "appealing"
no mention of the launch lineup being the same coupled with the flaunted backwards compatibility (to 4, nothing more) basically means that you are better off waiting for 1 or 2 years for the machine to get cheaper, more ironed out and better put together, and also have some games worth playing that you could not play with your ps4. like every fucking generation, especially the last one.

Unless its a rtx 2080ti sli the difference in performance wont be enough.

>launch price will be "appealing"
Maybe they wanted to say "appalling"?

source

>I WANT A PLAYSTATION 5 FOR CHRISTMAS!
>don't you already own a playstation?
>YEAH BUT THIS ONE HAS RAY-TRACING!
>what's that?
>... I dunno...

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I'll buy it as soon as BB2 gets announced otherwise I don't care

>>launch price will be "appealing"
Only for amerimutts who earn 1000000000000000000000000$ a day while not even having a job and doing literally nothing

>ray tracing
why are they not mentioning REAL TIME ray tracing? so it's actually just some marketing shit?

>all games censored by rainbow coloured SJWs before they ever hit the shelves

Not happening

>no load time
We could have had this already last gen if you were allowed to use different harddrives

>launch price will be "appealing"
So they'll do the Apple tactics of spreading rumours that it will be $599 only to reveal it's "only" $499 -- what a steal!

not me, I still have a fuckton of games to play on PC.
then I'll move onto emulators

Other than CPU, it won’t be that much of a jump compared to PS4 and especially Pro.
Keep in mind that PS4 Pro was meant for 1440p. Proper 4K at Pro's quality and framerate target would require twice the raw power of Pro GPU, while ray tracing is even more of meme even at 1080p.

>if you were allowed to use different harddrives
You can already equip an PS4 and Xbone with an SSD, but it won't improve loadtimes drastically because the console bottlenecks it. Great huh?

>SSD
Sounds great on paper, but it probably means new games will load for 90 seconds even on SSD.

i’m never buying a console ever again
also, fuck the ps4, what a piece of trash

That's the base clock you dumb fgt.

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i'm not that guy, but
>horizon
really user ? far cry with robots.

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We only do one kind of vore in these threads.

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oh boy can't wait for even more movie simulators with shiny graphics running at 20 fps with some extra censorship dingleberries thrown in

>worthless specs buzzwords
Where are the games?

>343i (Halo)
>The Coalition (Gears 5 and 6 to finish the NuTrilogy, Gears Tactics, after that new IP)
>Playground Studio 1 (Forza Horizon)
>Playground Studio 2 (Fable ARPG)
>Compulsion Games (small scale story-driven adventures)
>Relic Entertainment (Age of Empires 4)
>Undead Labs (zombie survival)
>Mojang (Minecraft, who cares)
>The Initiative (Quadruple A "AAAA" third person action games [so far hired a bunch of devs from Rockstar, Sony Santa Monica, Crystal Dynamics and Insomniac)
>Ninja Theory (divided into 3 teams, all working on games on scale of Enslaved) [3 teams]
>RARE (started working on a new IP and will let other studios work on their older IPs like with Battletoads atm) [2 teams]
>Turn10 (revolutionizing sim racers with Forza Motorsport 8)
>Obsidian Entertainment (new project directed by Sawyer already in development, best version of Outer Worlds in native 4k and 60FPS and possible sequels are exclusive) [2 teams]
>MSGP funding more 2nd and 3rd party games like Sunset Overdrive, Cuphead, Killer Instinct or Ori
>new Xbox Division in Asia
>inXile Entertainment (CRPGs) [2 teams]
>close to buying IO Interactive (Hitman), Deck13 (The Surge) and Asobo (A Plague Tale: Innocence)
>the best versions of multiplats
>native 4k 60fps
>backwards compatibility
>GamePass ($1 a month to play almost 200 games)
>they're not censoring games unlike Snoy
>using the W10 store means you're in the Xbox ecosystem

Sony is LITERALLY on life support next-gen

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on low or some shit. 1440p 144 fps or gtfo

lmao, base clock will be 0.8
You would be better off just blowing on your console than relying on the awful 15c fans they slap on.

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Don't worry about that user, we've got the finest directors, some of them even worked on hollywood movies

i'd be excited if all of it didn't have micro$haft's greasy paws all over it

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No PS3/PS2 BC, no buy.

>riding the woke bandwagon
ill pass

>Raymeme
No one really gives a fuck about this. Just the fact that no one mentions fps is pretty telling. Also
>buying censored SJW trash

Excuse me, coming through...
Oh, shit. Didn't see you there, little Snoygoy, what's that? 8K? Ray tracing? You sure you up to that little buddy?...
Okay little bud, but don't step on the PC's toes man, they get pissed.
Don't make any empty promises now..

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whats a navi gpu?

>>launch price will be "appealing"
Reminder that the PS4 actually launched for more than the PS3 did, after you factor in PS+.
I am sure the PS5 will be the same. Don't be surprised if they find some other idea to nickel and dime you all. Unless they won't just flat out up the price of PS+ again.

Holy shit Nincels, muttbox people and mustard race are seething. Gonna buy PS5 on day one.

>backwards compatibility (to 4, nothing more)
This kind of screams "the ps5 (exclusive) launch lineup will be trash, so please make do with the remaining and already available ps4 titles in the meantime please".
Or maybe I am just overthinking things.

Every time.

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Why should I care about ps4 BC? I already have a damn ps4, and if I want to play those games on something more powerful I can just get a PC

What do you think console tards care about, shiny newness or things that actually matter?

It won't have hardware ray tracing
And it'll probably be $500+ at release. So miss me with that gay shit.

I hope you enjoy playing The Last of Us: Re-remastered

They initially announced the ps4 had 8gb vram.

I hope Xbox does well next gen, those guys got it bad this time around

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>spent half the RD budget and cost of console on kinect
>fails completely
>take out kinect later in console life, left with underpowered console till xboxonex

how did they fucking do that blunder a 2nd time is beyond me.

extraterrestrial gpu's, Sony is pushing the boundaries once again!!

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Seeing how ssr was compltely broken in resident evil 2 and looked completely mediocre when working while costing an INTENSE amount of performance Im pretty sure ray tracing is completely meh and shouldnt be bothered with until its as cheap as fxaa AT LEAST

>Toilet Boy

Fucking kek

10/10

How the fuck are you all expecting 4k 60 fps when a ps4pro cant handle 30 in bf4?
How the fuck is sony still getting money? Are you consoletards really this dense? Slap on some """pretty graphics"""(read:bloom,dof to the max),call the game exclusive and you just made millions.

>censorship

This.

>no gaems

FUCK 4K
Just do 1080/60 with decent draw distance
i.e. what we should have fucking got last gen

Savage

Snoy went 2 platforms without ever getting a game.
Now they're censoring multiplats.
eh oh el

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Day 1 buy; stay mad cuck.

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And runs everything 10x better.

What about censorship?
What makes you think I'm going to fall for that bullshit again?
I bought a PlayStation for the first time this gen because I thought PlayStation online was going to be free, it wasn't, I thought it would be fine because at last I would have all those jrpg tiddies and couch coop games, there aren't any.
PS4 is a glorified bloodborne and Spiderman machine.

Couldnt agree more. I was close to buying a ps4 last year,but seeing how 30 fps is still a thing,i didnt do it.

It is, and will always be the future. But will be never the present because resolution. polygon count, post process effects etc keep progressing too. Current GPUs can barely render a fully raytraced Quake 2.

kiketel has no dog in this race

how come no one died

Fact: the only people anti-sony are intel and nvidia since they used all amd for ps4.

But so did xbox?

>I bought a PlayStation for the first time this gen because I thought PlayStation online was going to be free
How retarded of you considering paid online was one of the first things they announced months before.

>paid online
>censorship
>no gaems

>>launch price will be "appealing"

What does this even mean?

Who?

That guy who made all those sonic games

>ONLY $599 FOR A SUPERCHARGED TURBO NEVER-OBSOLETE PC DESTROYER

only if we get Bloodborne 2 soon after launch.

>ray tracing

Meme gimmicks like 4k that no one asked for. All launch and titles need to run at a min 60 fps or above for me me to be remotely interested.

Are people really looking forward to getting cucked by consoles for the 2nd time in a row?

>censored games
>no piracy, so they are not even free
no thanks chief, I'll stick to my Switch

More like
Ps1 sold almost god tier status
Ps2 is literally the most succes full console ever, god tier status
Ps3 sold very great
Ps4 same as ps1 now
The only unsuccesful console Sony has made was the vita which arguably sold shit tier

If the legacy backwards compatibility is true (PS1, PS2, PS3), then I'm all aboard.

I'll most likely get the console anyway, but I'm keeping my eyes peeled for any future announcements that can justify the 500$ price tag.

It's a relief however that the next-gen playstay console is a standard upgrade, without any specific gimmicks. Let's just hope that the games we'll be worthwhile.

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>massah ays things I believe him he goodboy who cares if he lied the 4 first tim

snoyger defend the brand, that's what they do. For one dude posting a pile of yearly release to prove it has games, you have 100 kids who got a fifa pack and netflix and beleive they are part of the hardcore clique

The Xbox One X was able to outdo the PS4 and PS4 Pro by several miles. And now from an insider report, the new Xbox console is apparently going to be better than the PS5 in terms of tech.
Sony also has jumped on the SJW censorship bandwagon, meaning that game developers won't have as much control or freedom on the PS5 system, not only for big boobies, but for "hate speech".
and if you think you're getting ray tracing and 8k or even 4k on a $600-$800 machine then THINK AGAIN.

in summary;

Sony will censor anything "offensive"

Sony will in all probability have weaker console tech overall if the Xbox insider leak is anything to go on

and buzzwords like 8k or even 4k and raytracing are lies to drum up hype for the PS5. The ps4 pro couldn't even do 4k.

Microsoft's Xbox wins, and I used to be a sony fanboy

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I honestly feel like next-gen will truly be where "8th gen" will begin. If anything the current consoles have really not had much to offer. The jump in advancement wasn't that significant either.

I don't give a fuck if it's a powerful machine as long as they censor the shit out of everything and only make movies.
Fuck commiesnoy.

Next gen better be Nintendo era.
I don't even own anything nintendo, I 'm just spiteful

if you care about performance just get a pc

Stope seething nintendo manchild and go back to your bing bing.

>implying

>Reddit spacing

can you imagine being a fucking sonygroid? seriously, imagine it for a second
there you are, a dirty fucking non-white sonygroid sitting in your cuckshed over in some turd world shithole, with your shitboxstation4 rumbling like a jet in the background

what's your lifestory? well you obviously got astroturfed over on reddit in regards to 3rd person action adventure shitsclusives with rpg elements and now pretend people buy consoles to play shit games
hell, you might even be retarded enough to have bought that "pro" """""upgrade""""" from the guys who just can't stop fucking you in the ass
what else? hahahaha, you're probably buying actual ps2 remasters from these guys and on top of that planning on buying a literal PS1 for 100 DOLLARS
pretty fucking pathetic, if I may say so myself

so what do you post on the 4chins then? well you obviously post SHIT because your joke console is SHIT, there's no 2 ways about it.

and you know, that's fine, shitposting is fine
thing is, you - the complete failure, are for some reason trying to get people to WASTE MONEY on an INFERIOR console in 2019
what's wrong with you? are you having turd worlder remorse for spending your 5year budget on some shitstation and are now trying to get more people to join in on your misery?

and if that's not enough, you cry about cu-c-console wars on a board where neet jannys are literally owned by one of the console manufacturers
tricking good hard-working people into wasting their hard-earned cash ON SHIT
you're scum, sonygroids, and I can't wait to see how SHIT your games will get over the years in comparison to what we be playing over at XCHAD HQ

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Reddit spacing of truth, though
refute my arguments not my way of typing

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/r/XboxOne is calling you.

You are upset, I can see that.
My ambition was to not upset thee, but only add truth to the PS5 conversation. I may have even saved you $600 when the time comes for the PS5 to be released and for it to be revealed that the new Xbox has better specs and isn't sitting on a mountain of lies and buzzwords

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ps3 sold at a loss for its entire lifespan, sales numbers means nothing if you are losing money

>make a console that can do 4K with MINIMUM 60fps
>backwards compatible for PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1 through software emulation
>cut down on the social media integration shit
>cut down on the media station shit
>accessible hard drive bay/expansion so users can change hard drives or add more storage
>gamesave cloud backup
>offer to also back up games themselves to the cloud
>cut out VR shit
>cut out motion control shit
oh hey look, an actual gaming console instead of a netflix facebook VR station.

Not gonna happen sport.
BTW if you hadn't switched to PC already this gen you're a fucking retard.
The bullshit coming from the microshit and basedtendo reveals was too obvious.

>Projecting MS' pricing fuck ups again
The PS5 will be $399 and the Cucklett with be $499 (again) with no games (again) and fail to justify itself (again)

I wonder what MS' "highest quality pixels" will be this time

punk absolutely dabbing on jap sucking frenchies

If I can play Bloodborne at 60fps I will buy it Black Friday 2025

Don't forget "troo 4K" (in about 12 games).

Uncle Phil spouts so much shit and he gets away with it. Blows my mind.

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shhh don't tell them this threads are hilarious. same with not understanding that supporting a resolution doesn't mean it can it play at that resolution.

Microsoft can't lose since they own Win 10 and are going full multiplat cross-platform.
None of you seem to understand that consoles and console exclusivity are dead. Microsoft sees this which is why they are slowly intergrating the machines with each other through software. Xbox is a platform, not a console.

DMCV runs at 1080@60fps on base ps4.The others do better except base xbone that struggles.

youtube.com/watch?v=MGW1RRJIfAI

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You're face, to face

better than "dynamic 4k"
also 4k console than can't play 4k bluray

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Oh never mind, it's Colt Eastwood. Opinion disregarded.

I haven't owned a sony product since PS3. I'm talking early days 60gb PS3 too. I haven't been interested in a console gaming in years. But what I listed would make me interested again.

I bought a ps4 to play yakuza and now they are coming to PC. never again. money better spent on a new gpu to play cyberpunk

I just bought a ps4 tho

>the Cucklett with be $499 (again) with no games (again)
Are you saying that the ps4 has games?
The Xbox One X was far superior than the ps4 pro in tech. This thread is about PS5 tech and since the Xbox One X was able to run circles around Sony's PS4 pro that was supposed to be a native 4k machine it's not a bad assumption to make that Microsoft is going to make something better than whatever Sony is toting.

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>implying this is impressive in the slightest
It runs at twice the framerate on cards that are older than the PS4 at maxed out settings.

Oh no, the price of a GPU, the horror

also remember
>CPU at 1.8ghz
>price tag of 499$
>around 10Tflops raw power
youtu.be/qU0V5OcHE_4
pastebin.com/PY9vaTsR/

lol it's the same shit on the Xbonex, retard. Can't even hold 4K res in fucking Crackdown 3. Shame of it.

well, not me

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Serious question, will the PS4 games look and run better when played in a ps5? or this is not how consoles work?

look at this peeceefat fear, lmao

>72% of PS4 players identify as LGBT

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They might. Consoles don't ordinarily do that but the PS4 and PS5 are based on the same architecture and PS4 Pro boost mode make it likely.

seeconsole niggers will take anything as buzzword

>CPU at 1.8ghz
Given this is a console thread I have to ask, is this impressive to you guys?

It's true tho

oh shit you’re right snoy BTFO

Thank you, user!

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Why don't they do proper 4k60 or even 1440p60 before they add all these other gimmicks?

When it comes to PS it actually means "Let Them Ban Tits".

>But the ps3 completely stomped the 360
Are you fucking retarded? PS3 was extremely limited by its memory capacity and off-the-shelf GPU. Multiplats just barely evened out during the last years.

>buying the fagstation 5
inb4 tranny jannies get booty blasted

>no smash
>no zelda
>no mario kart
>no proper games to play with your friends in split screen/whatever, the very thing which consoles are made for

If I want good hardware, want to play online or alone I'll just buy a PC

sony is worthless
microsoft has cursed us all
nintendo is a hive of filthy backstabbers

there is little hope left for consoles

>stomped
the vast majority of multiplats looked and performed better on 360. it also sold better. alzheimers is a hell of a drug. inceldom, too

>CPU at 1.8ghz
pathetic
They always cheap out on the CPU which is retarded since the CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT (that's what it stands for, consoleplebs) drives the entire system. It's like installing a shitty peugot gearbox in a porsche.

>>CPU at 1.8ghz
even the ps4 pro is at 2.1 ghz
(though the microarchitecture is waaaaaay better)

Where do they pull these numbers from? How is that even possible when only a small percentage of the global population identify as LGBT?

it will be Bloodborne II

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It's not at 1.8ghz and this time the CPU won't be a thing that drags it down.

Navi gpus (releasing this year) will be $200 for gtx 1080 level performance. By the time the ps5 is out, you will be able to build a comparable pc for less than $500 easily.

360 had 512mb of ram
Ps3 had 256mb i believe and it was was divided in memory pools of 64mb which only made third party development harder not to mention the unnecessary complex configuration of the cell

It just means that the internal x86 architecture is the same as ps4, meaning it can play ps4 games out of the box. Its just something to add to the advert. Same as Wii playing Gamecube games. Ps3 had what was, at the time, kind of a spaghetti code compared to xbox 360, hence why ps3 cant run on ps4

Well, they're trying to run games in 8K resolution at 1.8 GHz and a cheap GPU so yes it probably will drag it down.

You can't argue with lgbt logic user

Sorry I'm buying xbox next gen

>Navi gpus (releasing this year) will be $200 for gtx 1080 level performance
source?

Consoles have become a meme. Literally the only one worth owning is the switch.

It's not 1.8ghz. Those numbers have not been revealed.

>port machine
>worth owning
I guess if you like handheld gaming.

The Kinect utility was a key part of their "console as a multimedia" platform, and integrate data from its development and collection long term with Cortana and stuff. There's a reason to the madness, its just not a good one for gaming purposes

The PS3 had 512mb as well, but it was split evenly instead of being unified. Actually, the 360 has 522mb memory if you count the super advantageous fast framebuffer RAM.

It will upscale to 8k, there's no way it will run natively

>run games in 8K resolution
PS5 won't run at 8K

It's still going to be gimped to shit like every other console gen.
I also don't understand how 8K at 30 fps is even feasible on $500 consoles when PC's are still struggling to reach 60fps 4K in most games.

Affordable. People were turned off by the PS3 $600 price at its launch

its not out for more than 12 months, why would you expect games to be announced you bleating retards

>exclusive ports that you can't play anywhere else at a functional level yet
Maybe in 2 years when switch emulation is flawless you might have a point.

I don't believe that the cpu will be gimped this time.

It's not going to run at 8k. It's only going to "support" 8k. Just like the 360 and PS3 "supported" 1080p but generally ran games at 540p-720p.

$500 is not affordable for what will be an already obsolete pc when it comes out.

>exclusive ports that you can't play anywhere else at a functional level yet
CEMU exists user.

I'll say it again like I do in every PS5 thread
With their current content guidelines? Not a chance.
I'm Nexbone/PC and Switch

>>PS4 backwards compatibility
>Re-selling the pair of PS4 exclusives ''remastered'' at launch aniway

8K support is going to be limited to UHD movies.

>8 core CPU
last gen consoles had that as well, it was just under powered as fuck and most of the time they didnt appropriately use the cores they had
>navi GPU
Yeah cool neat, another proprietary first gen GPU that is gonna see significant boosts in its next release, leaving the first round of "SUPER CONSOLES" in an unstable state
>RAY TRACING
Yeah dont hold your breath, with the a new unproven GPU line you cant expect it to be able to hit 4k nevertheless hit 1080p 30 with Ray Tracing enabled
>PS4 backwards compatibility
Hand was forced by Microsoft who has their entire Xbox library slowly making its way to backwards combat and offering free upgrades to make the games look better and run at 4k.
>launch price will be "appealing"
Cocky Sony is back, shit will be 599$

This is Sonys first actual attempt at 4k, they halfassed the PRO and couldnt even figure out how to patch its biggest titles to take full advantage of it. the PS4 games running on the PS5 will hardly be able to take advantage of the new consoles memory and will more than likely only benefit from the SSD which you can get comparative load times in Spiderman if you swap out the current PS4 drive.

As much as i dont care for Xbox they already built a console that can do 4k and have devised a method that can hit those numbers. Theyve made huge strides with uprezzed backwards compat games and even offering better visuals. Sony is so far behind in the tech that this is all going to be a first for them.

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>Games at launch
>Games at all

Ah, so 1080p then. Will PS4 games finally run at 60fps or still sub 25 for the ultimate cinematic experience?

A 1070 is like 200 usd used

None of this means shit because the games are going to be cross gen trash for the first couple years. By the time actual exclusives release on this system it'll be 2023 and even budget laptops will be more powerful than it again.

it has 256mb, divided in 4 chips of 64mb each

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And? Most games don't work flawlessly on it yet. Only BotW.

>and even budget laptops will be more powerful than it again

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>inb4 used cards
you cant literally prove that used cards doesn't performs the same as brand new ones

>72%

you forgot the decimal place

i think Yuzu is the one youre thinking of and it can only run Odyssey with high hardware requirements and a plethora of graphical glitches, show me footage of xenoblade 2 running at 1440p
>inb4 thats a shit game

TVs only go upto 60hz. So it literally doesn't matter to add raytracing. Only pc cucks are triggered by it because it makes the 144hz they spent their lifesavings on worthless.

Isn't gaystation an official sponsor for fag parades?

>Most games don't work flawlessly on it yet
All the exclusives do, plus a shitload of multiplats. The ones that don't work are all shovelware games and ports.

Team I.C.O fanboys turned on that faster then KH fans turned on KH3.

Citation needed. The PS3 has always been known for having 2x256 MB split between system and GPU.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specifications

Games will even have a kid mode for game “journalists”

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core CPU
It could be the fastest CPU ever made or the slowest CPU ever made. This info is literally useless
>>navi GPU
Same as the CPU, we have no clue what kind of performance this will have
>>RAY TRACING
You could do ray tracing on a PS4, it would just make the games run like shit
>>PS4 backwards compatibility
PS4 and PS5 are just PCs so unless they went full jew and blocked it, there's no reason to not have it
>>launch price will be "appealing"
Again completely pointless point. It could be anywhere from $0 to infinity

You can see the chips soldered to the motherboard. It doesn't make a difference what the chip configuration is though, e.g. the ps4 has 16x 512MB chips but that doesn't matter for anything.

directly from the link you posted

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>Appealing
I paid $150 for my PS4 and $100 for my X. I don't see how anything can be appealing after this.

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Every console is just a pc, unless RISC and PowerPC stopped being pc architectures.

Developing DA CELL and the horrible first few years meant Sony lost money from that generation even if they sold more at the end.

see its pretty much a given that the PS5 will use the code name gonzalo chip that has been showing up multiple times on 3Dmark test data

When people talk about PCs they're usually talking about wintel.

>All the exclusives do
No they don't. Bayo 2 still has significant issues.

they had to make huge cutbacks to the PS3 fat model with the slim one, like PS1-2 native support and sell it for something like 300$ thats when they actually started to sell systems and that was around 2009

>it's another Yea Forums talks about hardware episode

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I would hope after this generation's start, everyone would learn to wait for the elite edition. Games take so fucking long to make now that Bloodborne was the only game the PS4 had until last year.

Just take the PC pill,
>Cheaper
>Modular
>More freedom
>You don't pay to use your own internet
>Literally more games and exclusives

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Already taken.

Nah, I will buy next Xbox Two, at least it's not overpriced piece of shit console

>and were told to find another platforms if they want to keep making such games

Fucking, absolutely, fantastic.

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Given that most people wont build their own PC, and prebuild gaming PCs are more expensive? Yeah, $500 isnt bad. Thats like saying the PS4 wasnt affordable at launch because it was an obsolete gaming pc even then. Didnt stop it from selling well

>Just like PS4 then.
this Zen2 CPU, even when bottle of the barrel, will be like 20x more powerful than the godawful Jaguar shit used in PS4 when running at around 3Ghz. it's a giant leap for CPU power but we don't know shit how Navi GPU will perform, which is still just GCN arch..

>RAY TRACING
giant meme. might hit 1080p 30FPS low settings on BFV

>stupid people are easily parted with their money
What's your point?

>PS4 backwards compatibility
This is how I know these "leaks" are fake af, there's no way Sony would suddenly turn around and decide on backwards compatibility since it'd cut into PS5 game purchases too much. I'd like to see RT capabilities but I doubt they wouldn't rather focus on 8K, however little sense that makes when PS4 can't even do 4K without upscaling and various hacks and people are just now upgrading to 4K screens and 8K will remain a meme until prices drop to below 1.5 million dollars.

t.dumbfuck Yea Forumsirgin

>That moment when you saw that the next xbox will be more powerful than ps5 on the news

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The lead architecture literally confirmed himself.

>it's 8core/16thread
that would need more power for a kinda small improvement, even when AMD's implementation is great. hope they'd use the power budget on a more powerful GPU.
it's a incredible improvement from shitty Jaguar cores at like 1.4-1.8 Ghz to ~3Ghz Zen2

>make a console that can do 4K with MINIMUM 60fps
Might aswell shoot their dick off while they are at it. Games aren't automatically better in 60fps compared to if they have more AI actors, better physics or even better graphics.
Some games gain way more from atmosphere than they gain from extra framerate.

i was going to get a ps4 after having quite a nice experience with the ps3, but then i noticed that PS4 was super easy to overpower with PC components, that they started to charge for P2P online and that sony doesnt have those insufferable 3rd party exclusives anymore, games like Nier automata made me make the jump to PC and ever since i've never looked back
i can run anything i want at 1440p@60fps while consoles are stuck at 30fps, feels good man

Retard.

CensorshipStation 5 No THX

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now THATS some cope my man

>Some games gain way more from atmosphere than they gain from extra framerate
i'm glad console niggers will never get to experience any framerate past 30fps

meh
Nip devs other than really big ones like Capcom and SE won’t dive into next gen for a good 2-3 years.
Also with Modern Sony’s anti-Japan policies, they might jump ship to Nintendo or go mobile.

499

>sutter/lag/framerate issues
>temps on the chart melting off components
>no games hitting 60 fps
>no gaems at all but 2 at best
>599
>8 k nobody gives a fuck
No thanks have fun with your shit box

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What is ray tracing?

My point is that $500 once a gen is affordable to millions of people who dont want to fuck around with installing gpus, drivers, putting in new RAM every so often, or even getting whole new mobos and chips once a decade or so. Its just a convenience cost. It may not get you 100+ fps but most console gamers dont care that much anyway.

Maybe if there was a PC manufacturer willing to sell gaming pcs at a similar loss we'd see something that really blows Ps5/scarlett out of the water, but the reality is dropping $500 once a generation to have a platform that most games are going to be optimized around anyway isnt a bad deal to most people who are going to regard it as a major upgrade over the last gen

wouldn't a thermal paste solve that tho? it worked on xbox one x

>this Zen2 CPU, even when bottle of the barrel, will be like 20x more powerful than the godawful Jaguar
Post proof

Oh wait, it doesn't exist yet so you can't

Much better lighting. But it's also much more expensive.

wtf are you talking about? neither sony or M$ uses high level thermal paste on their components, they apply the cheapest they have around and expect things to stay cold this is why PS5 is basically confirmed to be clocked at 1.8Ghz, consoles simply CANT hit higher clocks because it requires better and more expensive cooling solutions and they're also limited by console form factor

Zen gen 3 CPUs aren't out yet on PC but they will be soon, you can then look for any comparison between those and AMD jaguar performance, it will be a huge leap for the same power draw or even lower

>PS5 is basically confirmed to be clocked at 1.8Ghz
Wrong, I suggest you actually watch the Digital Foundry video.

I'm never owning a console, it's going to be outdated in 2 years, I'd rather just upgrade my PC like any other normal functioning human being

ray tracing can be achieved with literally any piece of hardware, i think the wired article never mentioned real time ray tracing which is completely different
its basically a more precise calculation of lighting and shadows, higher quality reflections and such, afaik there are no mentions of navi supporting real time raytracing and i doubt PS5 will have it at hardware level, it will most probably be emulated by software which will take a huge hit in game performance so yet again, another gen of no 60fps thanks to a new meme

you'd have to be a fucking retard to buy a ps4 pro
>no ram upgrade
>insignificant cpu upgrade
>gpu upgrade
Why even fucking bother with a whole console? On a PC you can just swap out the graphics card.

I would do the same but all my friends and colleagues play PS4 so I'm currently conflicted between friends and a better gaming experience. I don't want to be lonely

>bottle of the barrel
Yar har *HIC*

No thanks

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i did, richard got the switch specs down to a nail many months before release and even got access to the early xbox scorpio info, i'd believe him any day over some faggot on an anonymous image board
he also said that the gonzalo chip has a roof limit of 3.2ghz, PS5 might be able to scale between the 2 or maybe a later PS5 revision will be overclocked like PS4 pro

>PS4 backwards compatibility
Pathetic that they had to even mention that. Obviously the next console cycle (PS5 in this case, which is the power step after PS4 Pro) would support ps4 games. There is no such thing as PS5 games in the future. It's now PS4-family games.
Same will apply with Anaconda Xbox.

>gen 1 Zen brought 52% IPC improvement over 4th gen Shitdozer
>gen 2 Zen further increase IPC by 27% for FPU heavy workloads
well, guess this will not translate 1:1 for gaymes but a 10% IPC improvement is a save and conservative estimate
>Jaguar clocked at 1.6Ghz vs Zen2 at 3Ghz
to be fair we don't know how the chip will clock
BUT assuming the same powerbudget for the CPU, now on 7nm process down from old 28nm process, you can do the math. i would be very disappointed when the new chip won't hit 3-3.3Ghz with ease.

>MUH thats all guesstimates!
educated guess desu. now have sex, little niggerfaggot.

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the GPU equivalent of the ps4 pro is a RX570 i believe, the thing is still bottlenecked horribly by that piece of shit jaguar CPU

>Plays at 120fps in 3D on PSVR
You were saying?

cope

fucking based

This image doesn't make any sense. Sony didn't show only 4 games at each event. Just E3 2016 i know they showed off like 10 different games.

oh so now framerate gives you a nice atmosphere? make up your mind faggot

>i would be very disappointed when the new chip won't hit 3-3.3Ghz with ease.
Get ready to be disappointed

>Reading comprehension
Some games benefit more from atmostphere than framerate. Some games benefit more from framerate than atmosphere. I never said framerate was useless, just that ENFORCING a framerate limit at 60fps is fucking retarded.
Only incels would like that.

>people still fall for buying DRM planned obsolescence machines in this day and age

More realistic way of computing how light behaves. You put ray through every pixel on your monitor and trace it to source of light.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_tracing_(graphics)

you'd love to have 60fps across all games, don't delude yourself, 30fps in 2019 is absolutely unacceptable for a home console

>normal functioning human
>pc gamer

they're highly limited by temps, form factor, and power draw, i'm pretty sure they will get to 2Ghz at best

Not if it fucks up the atmosphere or the gameplay. I wouldn't want to play battlefield with only 8 players because of some batshit insane enforced 60fps requirement.

SHOT THROUGH THE HEART

AND YOU'RE TO BLAME

CAUSE

PEE ESS FIVE

HAS NO GAMES

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>censorship in every single game

Still waiting for the fucking GAMES.

1st gen Ryzen 8c (14nm) runs at 3.3Ghz at only 1V (which is the sweetspot for the process), also this is best desktop silicon you can find for Ryzen 1xxx series. only 52W for 3.3Ghz 8c/16t

now let's look what the 7nm process bring to the table
>1.25x increased performance at same power
we can ignore that for the PS5. only relevant for desktop parts
>0.5x powerdraw at the same clockspeed
VERY important

my assumption is that the PS5 CPU will clock around 3Ghz base & 3.3Ghz Boost (if needed at all). that would bring power consumption down to 20W - 30W range, IMO even less than that if Sony/AMD decide not to use SMT so only a 8c/8t CPU part.

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>PS4 backwards compatibility
PS4 has games?

>more cores means faster!!
>they’re virtual cores
>the software has to be optimized to use 4 physical paths and 4 virtual ones at the same time
>no one ever fucking does this

Spotted the real dumb fucker

Xbox reclaiming its place as king next gen with Halo Infinite

doesn't battlefield 4 runs at 60fps on consoles with around 50 players per match?

>implying otherwise
you absolute retard
you unbelievable idiot
you unfathomable moron

do not ever post in a technology thread again. go back to the overwatch general.

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>PC reclaiming its place as king next gen with Halo Infinite
based

Point still stands. If it was mount and blade or a musou game, then i would rather have the amount of actors on screen that the developer intended, rather than have it cut down. Imagine if LittleBigPlanet didn't have any physics and was forced to run at 60fps.
You wouldn't be able to make any levels worth a damn.

you're right. that's one more reason not to buy a ps5. this console is DOA.

Buying Basedstation? No thank you.

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don't know about bf4 but bf1 runs like ass

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you're completely ignoring GPU power draw, which is build in with the CPU on the same socket, you need to take temps into consideration and even the speed the fan cooler runs at
i think they will prioritize GPU utilization

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Not me. Too much gaymer propaganda from sony and no games. I'll play all of next gen next gen on an rx580 in 720P 30fps.

how? the engine is so good optimized

youtube.com/watch?v=MWzkw32amOM
i remember they heavily advertised BF4 with 60ps thanks to next gen power

S O Y
O
Y

I have the means to buy a launch console now but I don't know if I want to. Launch consoles always seem to have issues. May wait it out for a while. Probably no games worth it at launch anyway

>i think they will prioritize GPU utilization
you're right. from that standpoint even a Zen2 at only ~2Ghz would be more than sufficient without bottleneck the GPU for 4k 60fps. hope Sony will build a good cooler like XboneX has

>we're afraid of media backlash
>think of the children!
You've essentially become the ones you supposedly were afraid of receiving backlash from. Also it's so fucking obviously bullshit when it's only japanese games and developers targeted when your big budget AAA studios can do whatever the fuck they want with gore, violence and sex.

campaign =/= mutliplayer

multiplayer is way more demanding on the processor in these consoles. bf1 runs at ~60 fps in campaign on the consoles too. it only hits 60 when you're literally looking at the floor in multiplayer (unless you own an xbox one x)

Bard

youtube.com/watch?v=dkjS4wLEQX0
about the same

Appealing to who? Us, the customers? Or them, the shareholders?

idk man i think they're very concerned about temps and even acoustics, i wouldn't be surprised if they go for 1.8ghz just to keep a margin of error, i mean a Zen gen 3 clocked at that speed would be still miles better than the fucking jaguar on the ps4

>no launch title
Cyberpunk 2077 was in hands of ps5 devs for over a year now
>GTA 6 confirmed to be in works for some time now
leaked by former employee's portfolio. Sony would never fucking ever miss the chance to ship it together with the PS5, no way.
>rumoured Bad Company 3
from one of the leaks in december
>Horizon 2
save bet it will come out shortly after the PS5 launch or may even as a launch title. did anyone hear something else from Guerilla Games? they have to be working on a new title at this point

correction, Ryzen gen 3

Appealing price = $549 I bet.

pastebin.com/PY9vaTsR
that's the source of the rumors, it also talks about GTAVI being a 1 month exclusive for PS5

thanks

None of those games are appealing

the gta 6 rumours are fake and some random 3rd party dev wouldn't know the secret dealing between rockstar and sony. rockstar are extremely secretive as well.

>REEEEE make gaymes appealing to my subjective opinion!
ok homo

More like
*ore C*U
>>na*i G*U
>>*AY TRA****
>>PS* *ackward* com*tibility
>>lau*** *rice *ill be "app*aling"

heh, not bad. made me reply

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They should make a game that I would like to buy yes.

>all those games are shit! SHIIIIT!
>sample size: 1
have sex

I do sometimes. I just don't like those games. Hopefully they have something appealing for me. If not I can just wait to get the new console.

see you in 6 to 8 years then

72.00% there you go :^)

what exactly am I coping with retard?

If I live that long!

>scale down CPU (appr. 30% of normal power) to meet heat and power restrictions. Called "Ryzen" for marketing reason. Doesn't resemble an actual "Ryzen" in any way. Same for the GPU.
>"""ray tracing""" at 1080p/23FPS. Antialiasing, antriscopic filtern, reflects/shadows, basically all other effects nerfed so that the GPU can sort of simulate ray tracing.
>backwards compatibility has yet to be described in detail. this could mean additional fees to download software compatibility patches the playstation store. The difference between PS4 and PS5 architecture is nothing like PS1 to PS2. It's simply not that simple. And someone is going to have to pay for each game to be made compatible 1 by 1. This can't be done by simply adding a small chip to the main board.
>""""appealing"""" how is this a selling point? There is no specifics

Put your fucking dick back in your pants until Sony stops jerking you around and tells what is TRULY under the hood. This is pure marketing. There are ZERO specifics.

>were told to find another platforms if they want to keep making such games
Thanks for handing over next gen,Ssony. Very cool of you

t. Spencer

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>Let's put our games on the console no one buys anything on!
Retard Xcuck

I bought a PS4 in January and I don't think I've ever had so much buyer's remorse over a system before. I spent like 350 CAD on the system and another 300 on games and I ended up only liking one of them. GR2 was a fucking slog to play. Uncharted 4 was basically a subpar movie, though the core shooting mechanics were really fun. Too bad there were only 10 minutes of it for every hour and half of cutscenes and cinematic "traversal". GoW was the same except the cinematic bits dragged even longer and the game bits weren't even fun to play like U4. Spiderman might've have just played itself with how automated the combat and swinging were.

I learned the whole "Sony games are movies" thing is not a fucking meme. Gameplay and fun were clearly the last things any of the developers of these """""games""""" put even a modicum of thought to. I wish I had just bought a 1660ti instead. Never touching another Sony console again.

Backwards compatibility is probably true, it's not like the PS5 is gonna be any different from a PS4. It'll be just like PS4 and PS4 pro

This. If PC can't handle 4k/60FPS ray tracing with all other graphic settings maximized, there is no way in hell a PC made before 2030 is going to do it unless the shelf price was above $1500.

And I know you Sony fanboys are mid-splooge right now, but every PC junkie on this board that can quote the specifications for consoles and PCs and know what they mean, also knows the PS5 will be no more than 1/3rd as powerful as most PCs with a shelf price of over $2000. Today.

Bloodborne is the best game on the system, buy that.

Also, check out Infamous Second Son.

>Microsoft declined to comment
AKA we do the exact same

Still can't run games at 1080 @60hz

trying a little bit too hard there

This is complicated to address because of the amount of technicalities involved. But I am going to try and explain ... Console design, on the interior, and how the on-board software interacts with it (as well as how it handles 3rd party software) has been moving closer and closer to what you see in a PC. This is in the best interest of everyone, because developers don't have to go through so much hassle to make the same game for Xbox, Switch, PS, and PC. They more they have in common, the less money and manpower is involved to make them all work similarly.

During the PS1>PS2 era, this was not a concern at all because PCs still hadn't really taken off at that point. They had their foot in the door. The inside of a PS1 and PS2 is very similar. A PS3 to PS4 is not (which is why backwards compatibility wasn't offered). And a PS4 to PS5 will be an equally large hassle as the architecture will change again.

>7nm chip vs 28nm chip
heat level and power draw managed with just one simple trick
>Doesn't resemble an actual "Ryzen" in any way
see &>Same for the GPU
leak says 14TFLOP in a 175W power budget for the APU, which is quite an achievement when proven right
>ray tracing
you're 100% right. ray tracing is a giant meme right now.
>backwards compatibility
look for Cerny's patent for that
>""""appealing""""
4k 60FPS (between mid to high settings depending on the level of optimization and engine) for 499$ - 599$ is quite appealing for normies, maybe not full blown autists like anons ITT

can't wait for Skyrim ReReReRemastered for PS5 tho!

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How do any of you still fall for Sony's crap?
>lucked out on the xbox one being a media box
>sold you a jurryrigged ps4 pro that can't hit native 4k
>uses shady marketing for their next console claiming "8k" support when we all know it's for video playback

You're genuinely a seething drone if you don't expect Microsoft's next Xbox to give the PS5 a hardy spanking on price and performance.

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>if you don't expect Microsoft's next Xbox to give the PS5 a hardy spanking on price and performance.
almost same hardware for same price. how is this any good either?

>in b4 it's another piece of shit like the Xbonex is

>PS4 to PS5 will be an equally large hassle as the architecture will change again.
Nope

>How do any of you still fall for Sony's crap?
i don't. i gave my dad my ps4 and he uses it to watch netflix on it now. i'm definitely buying xbox next gen assuming they don't fuck up

>Redditors spreading their FUD again

>The inside of a PS1 and PS2 is very similar.
You really don't know wtf you are talking about huh?

Microsoft is devleoping a low and high-end model for the enxt generation. Assuming their high-end is going to be on par with Sony's single console is a bit naive. Unlike Sony, Microsoft is willing to throw money at AMD to have a sizable performance advantage.

The console that outperforms all PS4 titles and consistently hits native 4k and offers 1080p/60fps for a number of titles? Found the seething drone.

xchad

insecure and literally shaking. see you at e3 bitchboy

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pretty sure it is. rumoured Navi chip for PS5 has 40CU, resulting in 2560 shader, VS 64CU NewBoneX, 4096 shader Codename Arcturus

media box isn't the only reason the cuckbox juan got blown out

then again looking at your shilling for the eggs you're just another xfag unprepared for another awful gen for cuckbox

We're tlaking about hardware you mong. Stop moving the goalpost because you know I'm right. Pathetic.

Ray tracing has been around for decades you absolute Luddite. Doom's graphics we're raytraced.

>consistently
*rarely. no one wants your retard nexbox sku btw.

>w-wait for e3!!!!!"
the anthem of the xdrone

>He takes Blue Nugroho seriously

The Indonesian chemist doesn't know shit.

i have no idea what you said or what that chart is showing but i'm pretty sure it means xbox wins and snoyfags got cucked again

>Unlike Sony, Microsoft is willing to throw money at AMD to have a sizable performance advantage.
both did that. M$ wanted a new GPU so AMD made Polaris for XboneX. Sony wanted a new GPU so AMD made Navi for PS5
>Microsoft is devleoping a low and high-end model for the enxt generation
almost forgot about that, thanks for the reminder

check pic related for the High-end part

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You state a lot of specs, but will it have free online gaming?

Will it have support for PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 games?

Will it have the means to run games with mods?

Will it have support for Keyboard/Mouse in FPS games?

Can you play MKV movies and FLAC music on it?

Can you install programs on?

Can you put more storage on it without having to take out the stock one?

Will it have native res? If it uses checkerbox rendering it's by default trash.

Imagine lying to yourself to justify the purchase of a box that can only checkerboard games up to 1440p. Again, see you at E3. It's not like you'll be busy watching PlayStation's conference.

Go back to bed, Nugroho. You're not even misterxmedia tier.

Bethesda's bullshit is what finally made me /tired/. I like the Fallout and Elder Scrolls franchises, but Bethesda is hoarding and buttraping those franchises. They pulled the trifecta of shit: the Creation Club, followed by Fallout 76 (which I hoped initially would be a new singleplayer Fallout game developed by independent developers but turned out to be a reskinned Rust), followed by a fucking mobile Elder Scrolls game with obnoxious microtransactions.

only lies are by uncle phil's retarded cultists
>highest quality pixels
hahahahahahaha
get back to waiting for e3 all year every year like a good little xcuck

4k > 1440p

:^)

>Nugroho
literally who. don't mistake me for someone else when i presumeably use 'his' infos/leaks

who doesn't wait for e3? it's the biggest gaming convention on earth. is this the new sony shill narrative? e3 is so important so sony shills there's always this one guy spamming how sony wins e3 in every xbox thread. if it doesn't matter why do they care so much?

the few times it ever manages it
>even fucking crackdown 3 can't stay at 4k
another uncle phil lie. it's ok when he does it!

seething

xbox.com/en-us/games/xbox-one/xbox-one-x-enhanced-list

>muh christmas 4 gamerz
yeah, because like children, you get nothing else the rest of the year.

i can see this happening but it depends at what cost. in theory they could use a 2080 ti but it will all come at a cost. if this is above lets say $600 it will be a flop. $500 is the maximum i'd expect most people to pay. $400 is what i'd think most people would like to pay.

are you dense? e3 is for all games not just xbox you moron. people watch it to see what's new in the industry and what they can expect for the future. downplaying e3 just because your beloved company can't afford it doesn't make it any less relevant as an event.

>""""""enhanced""""""
>4k means native, dynamic and checkerboarded
another blunder for the retard xfag

cope

He's quoting the meme image, which has been floating around for a while.

all games but cuckbox only ever announces their dogshit new stuff there. can't wait for more funko pops shit.

Why are you cherrypicking a mobile game apposed to the Xcom-like Gears Tactics or Gears 5 releasing this year? You seem really upset.

where did i ever mention caring about xbox in my original post? why are you deflecting so hard?

>i just got my asshole ruptured so i'll spew out reddit memes to compensate
fuck off back to your hole

fanfiction

hard to cherry pick when it was one of their few new announcements this xcuck is trying to shill
>it doesn't count because reasons
at least you have those gears rehashes i guess

Me. I don't use consoles, but PC games would benefit from the jump of console specs.

>RAY TRACING
do you guys know that only some scenes or objects on certain moments will be raytraced right? fully raytraced games are 10 years away

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>AMD

not a chance in hell

which one shall i get?

simplygames.com/p/xbox-one-x-1tb-white-console-xbox-one

simplygames.com/p/ps4-pro-1tb-black-console-and-spider-man-game-ps4

Just like you have a generic zombie game and Project Spark 2.0 this year while three of your biggest exclusives are being pushed back as PS5 launch titles? You seem really upset.

Will it run PS4 games as well as the PS4 Pro?

none of that. wait a year and get the new gen

>bu bu bu but sony
figures you couldn't defend uncle phil's piss dribble

Not an argument. You guys sure are infatuated with Phil Spencer, though. Kind of weird.

man, sony sure did fuck their consumers in the ass hard. they still have the nerve to defend them even though they pulled out of huge fan events like e3 and psx last year. why would anyone defend that shit?

t. ps4 owner with gow, tlou2, hzd, spiderman etc

>"w-wait for e3!!!!!"
>even though it's usually garbage for xcucks and they announce fuck all the rest of the year
>bu bu bu but sony
xchads aren't having a good day

fake news incarnate

get a PC to play xbox games and wait for PS5 to play higher performance PS4 games and also the handful of PS5 game there will be for launch

I mean, to every neutral observer here it seems you (the playstation fan) are the one who isn't having a good day and needs to defend his company aggressively for whatever reason

>deflecting when he has no response
classic xbro MO

Xbox briefing was the best thing of E3 last year, what drugs are you even on youre revisioning history now? i guess you have to cope in some way for sony not being at E3 at all this year

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>pc

nah. no physical media. it's either the xbox 2 or ps5 then. i'll get whichever one has halo infinite. any news on halo coming to ps5 (heard it might come to switch)? if not the xbox it is then.

i'm not the one you replied to, moron.

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with the man who sold the world

>Xbox briefing was the best thing of E3 last year
surprised they managed to snap up reveals for games like sekiro. made their show a very interesting watch.

>nah. no physical media
whats the problem with that? its been this way for decades now, youre probably going to pirate everything on PC anyway
Halo Infinite is coming to PC tho

they even got full DMCV coverage and KH3 trailer, it was fucking amazing, every presentation after it was basically re announcing stuff Xbox already shown

>whats the problem with that?
it's a problem to me because i like to own disks and special edition steelbooks. only consoles offer that. pc is irrelevant to me for new games and games i want. i only use mine for some emulation or to play old games like i'm playing kotor 2, jet set radio, shenmue 1&2 and xiii because of the reveal a few days ago.

YOU SHOULD BE BUYING INTEL STUPID GOY THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

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should also add 99% of my friends are on console. with a game like halo it's all about the online experience.

At 31 years old I can finally say that I grew out of consoles.

>buying hardware designed to play games and do nothing else

Fuck these toys.

PC Master race

>PS4 backwards compatibility
You don't actually believe this, you fucking retard?

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yeah i get that, i collect mostly switch games, everything else is on my steam library, the problem with AAA multiplats is that they loose value way too fast as to invest in physical copies, they release a day version, later a deluxe version and then a GOTY edition even tho the game didnt won GOTY anywhere and not much later one you get the remastered version or Definitive edition, its so easy to loose track i just dont care anymore at least with nintendo i know that they wont release a new fancier physical version in matter on months

times up, shlomo

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it is completely doable since PS4 has x86 arquitecture, PS4 games will run on PS5 out of the box no need to emulate or anything at all, read the fucking thread fucking retard, we've covered this many times before

Buying any console at launch is a Mistake.

I'll olny nab one if it garners enough of my interest after year 1.

>Xbox briefing was the best thing of E3 last year,
kek
ms got to announce dark souls 3 as well. sold the least on cuckbox too. i guess fromsoft know you fuckers are only good for free advertising.

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>8 core CPU
>navi GPU
>RAY TRACING
>PS4 backwards compatibility
>launch price will be "appealing"
>no games

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Their gpu's on the middle end are good and their cpu's run cooler, with less energy and are more secure than Intel ones; what else do you want?

i just like to have them because i like collecting stuff. i still have my original xiii 6th gen physical copy and when the new one drops it will be nice to have the new edition and old edition of the same game on my shelf. im not normally one for remasters but it's one of my favourite games and i want to have the collectors edition when it comes out.

>30 fps

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This post was exactly what I was explaining here
I thought you don't care about E3? Now you suddenly do care about it enough to post an image showing how Sony benefited off E3. By your own logic Sony are the ones getting shafted by not turning up to E3 not anyone else.

most normies just want to buy 'the best CPU money can buy!'. so they don't look at those metrics, only clockspeeds and gayman performance which Intelaviv still holds. Zen2 might change that

Guys I'm so excited for PS5. I haven't bought a console since the PS4 in 2014. I'm predicting developers of the most successful PS4 games will patch them for PS5 support with higher resolution or frame rate.

I unironically cannot wait to pick up a PS5 and play the games I already own, especially since I skipped the PS4 pro. You people are way too negative. There are a tonne of quality exclusives on the PS4 and I think that will continue with PS4.

New Bloodborne new spiderman new horizon new God of War new PS5 version of the last of us 2. Can't wait. I'm happy Microsoft heavily supported backwards compatibility and Sony stepped up their game. Good times ahead for console players.

Kinda feel sorry for pc people who will miss out on so many great games.

>fallout 76 top no1 in views
jesus christ
do you actually believe that the fucking snorefest sony had with a fucking banjo player and the flute guy was anything but mediocre? hope they have a better presenation this year...

Its not a matter of doable, you dipshit. They've never allowed anything other than PS1 BC and a brief period of limited PS2 BC, which they went back on their words. Now with Sony more arrogant than ever due to current gen success, there is no way they're losing making money by selling you old games.
Read up on PS BC history, you fucking underage zoomer

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>that xcuck reading comprehension
not surprising from the same retards who hype up every Inside Cuckbox when they always end up being shit too

>source
>my ass

fallout 76 announcement ended up being reworked into a trailer but yeah, the list is accurate and the xbone was the only console last year without a post-e3 bump. i guess they should have showed more multiplats.

Nice try faggot. Latest patch update btw.

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Are there seriously people who only own one console or game on only one console? Why limit yourself?

>social media analytics
>ssbu and re2 in the 70s
fucking kek, may as well use a twitter poll spammed by xcucks as evidence instead

>Playstation sucks
>BUT XBOX
Why do you insist on being retarded

>price tag for adults
>gimp games to protect children
Well certainly not me... Sucks too because even though I'm an idiort, PS has been my favorite brand since it first existed. Now Commiefornia has lost them a diehard customer.

>8k
>ray tracing
>SSD
Sony resorting to buzzwords to market their new console is concerning, and that's not even mentioning their censorship.

>PS4 backwards compatibility

Not Enough

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More like
>8 genders CPU
>navi GayPU
>HIV TRACING
>PS4 backward sexuality
>launch price will be "74% off"

>SSD
>buzzword

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It just goes to show every iteration of consoles are just a beefed up version of the last one.

Smells like PS3 here. Microsoft just needs to market the new xbox better by focusing on the games and none of that TV bullshit. If Microsoft also offers cheaper price than Sony then Microsoft will win next gen

Forget it, it's the new FUD lines they've got from their supervisors.

literal shill

holy fucking based

>deflecting

This is entertaining for me. You get so mad no matter what anyone mentions even if it's to expose you for your hypocrisy. Tell me again how worthless E3 is when your own image says Sony benefitted from it? By your own post Sony will be losing out by not showing up.

>SSD
>mattering on a platform that's purely VRAM

they offered BC with PS2 in PS4, PS3 is literally spaguetti code, they wont bother making an in house emulator for that shit ever, they cant offer the same BC they did with PS3 FAT because that shit was expensive and relied on basically shipping the console with PS1-2 components inside (Emotion Chip), there's no need for that this time, Xbox is been advertising their system with 2 gens BC and they want to capitalize on that, they can have BC and still sell PS5 versions of PS4 games

>Xbox
>Games
Haha
>It'll be like the PS3 again!!! Just you wait!!!
Hahahahaha

>Now Commiefornia has lost them a diehard customer.

This, letting the zionist mafia take over your brand to push marxist ideologies is just bad for business

As opposed to your post using gamefaqs of all things? How desperate are you?

Theres no evidence of anything you claim because that website didn't record xbox sales after E3. Try again.

>can't defend it
naturally
>xbox sales
lol good one

The ps3 fucking sucked literally everyone I know who owned one regretted it. The controller was especially garbage.

Literal destroyer of brands more like, look at all the comments, these threads are ending the Playstation Brand

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I'm getting an Xbox Scarlett Anaconda and Switch Mini, fuck the PS5.

Are you going to respond to anything presented to you for once?

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It not just playstation, people are tired of incremental change while also being called scum.The market is fatigued