Which vidyas do alchemy or necromancy really well?

Which vidyas do alchemy or necromancy really well?

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Dorf Fort
Skyrim with mods
ToME 4 - do not buy it or give money to scumbag dev - just either pirate it or else go with free version and get mods

>mods

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>alchemy
Witcher 1

>Skyrim without mods
>YOU HAVE GAINED ONE LEVEL!
>CHOOSE A PERK!
>make my sword do 20% more damage
>YOU HAVE CHOSEN WISELY! NOW ENJOY THIS PERK

Or I could mod it and have actual perks that are interesting and not just "lolz hit for bigger number!"

I could just mod Minecraft then. Or anything else. I'm asking for games where alchemy/necromancy are not just a side thing, I'm looking for a game based around it.

And I told you one - Modded Skyrim
Without mods: Dorf Fort and ToME
You can also add in DC:SS too though necromancy is kinda shitty in the new versions, version 0.10 was best with unholy armies of fuckery
Also Dominions series
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Just check the white box next to the purple skull to see all the death magic

Pathfinder Kingmaker.

Guild Wars 1
Necromancer

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Not Divinity: Original Sin 1/2

I've had it in my mind to build a proper necro game for a while now.
Not too much though into it but I thought it would be cool if the disciplines were compartmentalized into divination/necromancy/demonology.

Well if you make a party composed of 3 jolly undead of diverse builds and one X-raced necromancer (human for less memeing), it actually becomes a pretty amusing Necromancy simulator!

It's like modding, but not.

Why was 2 bad?

Plays nothing like a summon build which was arguably the best playstyle in GW1. Pet AI is still terrible after what? 5 years?

They're pretty much useless in dungeons and PVP. Groups need maybe 2or3 at most.
All in all they're pretty terroble in every role

autism

Because it only shares the name with GW1. Nothing else.

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>Skyrim with mods
if you're fine with un-modded skyrim you don't need much...

However vile art of necromancy is probably my favorite mod, but others exist:
>perma - changes to conjuration tree regarding strictly necromancy
>skyre/ordinator - changes to conjuration tree similar to perma
>corpse preparation - lore friendly but i've never tried it

I gave up and just went back to warcraft 3

lineage 2

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>alchemy
Unironically the good entries in the Atelier series

Witcher 1 has the best alchemy implementation I've seen.

>ToME 4 - do not buy it or give money to scumbag dev - just either pirate it or else go with free version and get mods
Why's he a scumbag?