Pound 2019

I'm clearly retarded.

esam lost 10-1 to samsora yesterday lmao

It was painful to watch.

I've seen more G&W than Palutena this tournament.

Is mango just birdmemeing all weekend?

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this richter is doing work

Richter slew that Pacman something fierce.

I've seen a lot more of G&W and pacman then I was expecting.

Too easy

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What makes him so based?

>MKLEO lost

spics BTFO

Peak physical strength mixed with a fun personality.

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BTFO

based MVD BTFO Yoshi right now

Shoulda taken Salem's vitamins.

Has Leo peaked already? His results aren't as good in these resent tournaments.

I cant decide who's uglier, MVD or esam

leo dq'd out of losers lmao

>muh back

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kek. If he is so fucke up, did M2K carry him yesterday?
Don't forget the cute vampire slayer friend

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Why is nobody watching melee?

waiting for pools to finish

Most depressing smash tourney thread I've seen in a coons age

Disgusting tranny zelda on stream.

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>commentators nervous about pronouns
Every single time.

Is MKLeo just a Zero echo fighter? I feel like being around Zero alot has made him try to mimic his personality instead of being his own person.

hes so boring.

Getting FROGGED

Leo is just a chill Mexican fuck. Nothing flashy, just goes in and does his business. He's the most low key number 1 smasher

I feel it's the opposite, Zero is fake as fuck and trying to hype up absolutely everything, meanwhile, Leo comes off as if he doesn't care

I mean obviously Zero is fake as fuck. All he does know is leach off of Ultimate to try and stay relevant.

The only thing they have in common is being overweight. Leo is boring but he doesn't try to fake having a personality while scarflard is both boring and obnoxious. He also completely loses his shit when he loses while Leo just sorta shrugs and moves one.

MKLeo has been a disappointment for viewers since mid-2018 when he started going Bayonetta in Smash 4 because he couldn't keep up with the Bayofags even with busted Cloud.

Since people learned to Parry, his Ike has been a joke which is why he doesn't go Ike. His Wolf is just a N-Air machine, nothing as refined as Zackray's Wolf, probably even worse than ZeRo's Wolf too. I used to like MKLeo but now I hope he gets deported so he can stop disappointing us all. Then Tweek can finally take his seat at the top.

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Hard to forget when she is every bit as capable as he is. Rondo is such a good game.

he said hell play fox top 8

>Then Tweek can finally take his seat at the top.
Fuck that faggot tweek. he's a whiny faggot with a 2 inch dick

Leffen time.

Fuck Tweek. He is a whiny bitch that still is asshurt about not getting into summit.

Tweek and CaptainFaggot are dating, agreed Gas all of the Bayofags

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>Leffen vs ZD
ZD is mostly a Xanadu local, I think Leffen will take this.

Looks gay. I'd rather have the Mexican who seems like he wants to distance himself as much as possible from the community while also making money off it by beating a bunch of fags

He barely used Bayo in Sm4sh...

leffen unleashed

Shoutouts2Jesus vs some Puff

I want Puff to win I want all Puff top 8

Leffen is expanding.

wtf I love greninja now

I just want Mang0 to win something for once.

>Marss tag is Tendo
Good taste

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ZD is a Top Fox...

*farts*

>Then Tweek can finally take his seat at the top.
Not with that trash mentality, dude gets mad tilted over dumb shit.

Not to mention, Tweek's legit deluded that it's his birthright to be no 1 and he's some anime protagonist.

He has the skill to do it, but he's so unlikable and never has the right mindset.

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Why the fuck is MKLeo playing Wolf anyways? His Wolf is nothing special compared to the likes of Zackray or Tweek's Wolf. Leo needs to go back to his swordies.

It's the only way for this tournament to be noteworthy or exciting. Unless chudat wins it. That would also make it noteworthy and exciting. But anyone else it would just be meh

this is why I just want to see tournament play and not know the player because the majority of them are just scraps from the bottom of the barrel human beans

No, LarryLurr and Light are top fox.

>light lost
>zd lost

the fox mains are dropping like flies

get fucked FoxFags, GIGANTIC LEFF has no time for furries

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That would require him to care.

How bad do you have to be to lose with Fox?

Larry Lurr somehow got a sponsor with SKT.

Thats a fucking Broodwar homename. I have no fucking idea how that one happened

>watching vgbootcamp
>that fucking minutes long ad for subscription emotes that explains in detail how they're supposed to be used for each one
smash streams are fucking insufferable, they know their audience is kids with no common sense

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ZD is a top Fox in Ultimate. He got the results to prove it

>Implying Fox has a good matchup against Pichu

He was intimidated by Leffen's largeness.

Is Richter serbian?

I want cratorface to get destroyed.

Wolf is easy bake, controls the pacing of the match, and benefits players with strong fundamentals.

How is fox ALWAYS top tier?
How does he do it?

DREPHEENNNNNNB

Fast, reflector, projectile.

Fox's basic toolset since 64 has always been good for dealing with everything else in the game.

I don't believe they ever said where the Belmonts hail from but considering they are never far from Dracula, its probably safe to say he is Romanian.

>Larry
He literally doesn't place above 17th at majors and is ranked below Eon in his own region

no he didn't. he is still playing

>Snake vs Bayo
This matchup is trash, rip Geist

Brawl Fox was pretty mediocre.

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The only time I'll root for FAT MVD is against a BayoFag. FUCK BAYONETTA she still hasn't been nerfed enough - because she it still in the game.

Also All Bayonetta players are homosexuals or trannies, Geist is a nigger so he's already halfway there

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Drephen fucking up SFAG is making my saturday

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Meanwhile, based Jap shota won a tourney with Joker. I wonder if he'll pick up Corrin again with her buffs.

Larry got carried by vortex cheese in Sm4sh. It ain't too surprising other Top Foxes are doing better.

HAHA

anyone know what's up with wizzy?

It's not fair to bring up brawl because your tier placement in that game depends on your matchup against Meta Knight

Wait a sec are they in 2.0.2 still?

He did super solid vs MK, he was just held back by infinite chaingrabs from pika etc

>Corrin again
Zackray played Corrin? When in Sm4sh? How can one kid be so based!?

Yes

Fox is actually better than that and started doing pretty well near the end of brawl. The real problem is his matchup vs Pikachu and Ice climbers. He does OK vs Metaknight.

>I wonder if he'll pick up Corrin again with her buffs.
Here's hoping, she's much more usable.

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3.00 came out too late for this tournament.

Of course. You don't seriously think they would make the players play on a 2 day old patch, do you?

Anyone watching the side stream? MuteAce V ESAM, are there any Peach/Daisy players that aren't flaming fags - are they the new Bayo of this game?

>Light losing to Wolf
I fucking love Wolf vs Fox matches. It's a constant tug-of-war of who gets to top.

And yeah he did much better in Japan.

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cloudbros...

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this picture is evidence of nothing all top players talk to each other. Stop gossiping and spreading rumors like preteen faggot. shut the fuck up and watch the damn tournament.

He'll probably stick with Joker but we'll see.

please buff the lewd witch

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Who the fuck are chelly and jorge? Are the real commentators busy playing their pools?

>drephen chokes away a two stock lead

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Yes, he entered the scene during Sm4sh's twilight months.

But why were zelda and shiek treated as one character but the samuses weren't?

She and Robin are damned to get worse each update.

Or maybe sfat was choking and then started playing at his actual skill level

I mean it's not like we don't have patch notes

That’s not really that surprising desu. When it’s last game and you’re trying to make an upset, and you’re ahead, if you lose a stock you lose your cool because you know you’re so close. That and SFAT is better at keeping his composure.

How can someone be 'rusty' to the only 2 games you play for a living?
I understand that it's pretty draining playing all day but I wouldn't call that being rusty

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you could swap between zelda and sheik mid match and they were near equally shit enough to justify giving them their own spot unlike melee.

It is impossible to swap between samuses mid match without a smash ball, you select one on the css.

Bayo gameplay design is degenerate. She needs minor buffs. That's it.

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how dense are you

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They are German. They should come from Siebenbürgen which at the time and still is full of Krauts

Fuck Leffen then

Any rare characters still in?

That's completely irrelevant. 2 days is not long enough for people to adjust to a new patch, especially one that introduces a new character, when the previous patch has been used for over month.

Falco, Pikachu

Any mango updates?

>Ally hits this every night

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Still a washed up degenerate

Why does the Brawl/4/Ult community have SO many faggots?

Melee had flaming homos like MacD and KirbyKaze, but it legit seems like Ult has more gay prominent players than straight.

>esam lost to muteace

2-12 vs peach lmao

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Women keep getting worse every new generation

I bet CaptainZack would literally fuck himself on your dick so hard he'd perforate his colon.

no joker no watch

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not like this shit tier character is going to be picked in tourneys anyway

Joker is 2 days old, no one knows how to play him yet, retard.

kys he's good

Still hasn't won a tournament since Smash con 2017 - and probably won't win this one either unless he bites the bullet and plays Fox. The Kid seriously needs to put the beers on hold and grind if he ever wants to win again.

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learn to play nigger, he's shit. only good with arsen out which requires a counter-like mechanic to get any mileage out of, even then he can easily be camped till it's gone

imagine being a fatass and owning a german shepard
literal torture

Okay so no one would pick him then?

>easily camping a marth speed character for 30 seconds

he's banned for this tourney due to him (and 3.0.0) coming out only 2 days before the tourney
same reason why plant was banned for genesis

No sensible player would be dumb enough to take a character they don't know how to use in a big tournament that they had to pay to get into. If anyone did use Joker they likely got knocked out of the tournament before reaching stream.

joker has no good harass tool (eigion isn't long range enough) and his grab suck, meaning he's susceptible to defensive shield play

Okay so then why is he not available for the tourney if no one would pick him anyhow?

He doesn't care about winning anymore. Tournaments are just something he does to keep his fans happy.

because 3.0.0 could bring on big glitches like the diddy grab glitch with patched smash 4. Not to mention 2 days to learn changes to character changes like corrin would be retarded, as well as the entire projectile shield damage change

Because 3.0 also introduced changes to the game that require more than 2 days to properly adjust to. Also just because picking Joker would be a bad idea wouldn't stop people from picking him anyways to cheese a victory via lack of matchup knowledge.

His gun is pretty good at blocking approaches, especially when he pulls a Dante on you.

So basically it's just the players refusing to adapt.

>There are people itt who don't understand why Pound isn't allowing 3.0 or Joker
Sometimes I can't blame the main FGC for thinking we're a joke.

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It's weird how streaming has created vidya culture where being a personality is more profitable than actually winning. I wonder how much of that is in real sports too, like do good players we never hear about get passed over because they're not marketable?

problem is no one has to approach you when arsene is out

La Luna

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Gun is still good at blocking without arsene

>hotbid reveals there was no mafia and all of the game was a sham
>all of these players who just spent the last two hours locked in a drama filled emotional rollercoaster at the point of strangling eachother immediately turn on chat to start laughing at them as if they were in on the joke when they were the ones who were the butt of it

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lol no, there's too much time between shots and too many recovery frames. Gun is only good for edge guarding against shitty recoveries

Where's /our guy/ Ludwig? Coney is lame.

Way to miss the point, retard. Imagine if you were a student who spent over a month studying for an English exam - you've spent months studying and poring over books for the exam, only for the professor to say "sike, it's actually going to be a Spanish exam!" 48 hours before the exam. Now replace English/Spanish with patch 2.02/3.0 and that's basically the situation. It's not that players refuse to adapt, they just don't have enough time to do so.

qerb!

a little bit in the sense that something like a great athlete won't get the most lucrative endorsement deals from say Nike, but the teams they play for will literally sell their entire fucking roster to keep your ass if you are a superstar caliber player. So you get paid but, not not in faggot e sports

So you think people are just gonna use 2.0 forever?
lmao

why can't i have good hair like captain zack bros?

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>CaptainFag

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That's not analogous.

It's more like the Engish exam will feature a story you've not read before and will have to read during the exam to analyze, which is the case for most English exams. What you're saying is more like if they switched it to a PM tournament at the last minute.

Learn to make analogies, retard.

people prepare for tourneys. you don't just change the game on short notice like this. should be pretty obvious.

Gun has a shit ton of uses when the variations are used smartly

My husbando, Zack is playing

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samsora
>effeminate as fuck
muteace
>doesn't even look like a guy
>captainzack
literally gay

people meme about how yoshi mains in mk64 turn out gay but it looks like it's actually the peach mains

Its smash peach players that are like that for whatever reason. Armada is the only exception.

Sorry friend, he's taken by Ally. You have to move on.

do you even dante bro? if you can land a close range shot with it and they dont shield you can convert it into a smash

>using the gun close range
enjoy your free punish

They're just friends.

Imagine being qerb being a legit 9/10 male playing a bottom tier character and actually beating shit tonnes of autists out there playing top tier characters devoting their gross neckbeard lives to the game while a Chad comes in and fucks all their devotion while still slaying pussy.

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He fucks Zack's boypussy every night and you know it

And he is getting the knot

>he doesnt know
a non leaping dante shot has pretty much no endlag, good luck punishing it

Chad low tier mains use their character because they like them and desire to improve. Virgin low tier mains bitch and moan about their characters shortcomings and john when they lose because of their lack of skill. It depends on the person mostly.

Fuck wolf

easy characters should never be good, they should all be bad like k. rool

Maybe if more people main Fox to keep the Wolf population in check

wolf and lucina need to get hit. I'm fine with peach and pikachu being the best because they arn't braindead

I thought they used dogs to hunt wolves not foxes.

>Zack can't get carried even by peach
He really needs Smash 4 bayo to get anywhere

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I like to imagine that Armada is an even bigger Peachfag than Samsora, but he just keeps it lowkey. It takes serious dedication to play a character (who isn't even considered that high tier) at top level for almost 2 decades.

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The beak at its least

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Imagine getting put into a pool with Axe and realizing that even though you're the underdog no one is going to cheer for you because it's Axe

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Its scary how far he took Peach in melee. How is that so damn good?

>Zinoto is a Olimar main now
I don't like it, how is he supposed to choke with Olimar like he did with Diddy?

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The power of best girl gave Armada strength.

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>melee can end a set and get another one started before tr4.5h can even begin
this game is such a fucking mess. or maybe it's just vgbc/gimr being typically awful at his literally only fucking job.

You read it backwards, zinoto is peach

He's a Peach main tho

It really depends on the day
For example, in Gene6, Ultimate was delayed by 3 hours due to Melee taking so long

He is playing peach you donut

His hairstyle looks like its from 2006 wtf are you talking about

Nice then he can still choke

VOID IS OUT

actually it was due to smash 64 being a complete cancer camp fest despite using 5 stocks

wtf so did Locus change his name to Myran and go into some depression?

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Who did he lose to?

He's already strong by himself but she amplified it. His turnip game is legendary.

a villager

he's not out though, he's still in losers

Fuck you he's just in losers

some guy called BobbyWasabi

His ex upgraded to an actual top 5 player and it was all down hill from there for Locus

>Smash 64
>campfest

Im not surprised, a game full of touch of death combos is bound to be competitively boring because no one wants to be hit

>everyone traveling is dying
>all the locals win because they're not vomiting 24/7

I honestly gave Lima and Mistake 6 months before they fall out. But damn, they barely lasted 3 months

these are your pro players:

Jw (Greninja) 2-1 MkLeo (Wolf and Lucina)

Daybreak (Wolf) 2-1 Light (Fox)

BobbyWasabi (Villager) 2-1 VoiD (Pichu)

Shyguy (PT) 2-0 Salem (Snake)

MattyG (Chrom) 2- Larry Lurr (Fox)

MuteAce (Peach) 2-1 ESAM (Pikachu)

I know Lima had a crash and burn but didn't things go ok for Mistake?

Did ESAM actually lose to a Peach after last night lmao

This is a good thing, it keeps the scene fresh and unpredictable.
Why would anyone complain about this

The locals poisoned the water to give them the edge.

>Hold on guys, let me fuck over the whole bracket

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>Coney is a Pikminfag
>Down to the fact he knows Olimar is actually the best written Nintendo character

Based as fuck. It's such a shame Olimar is so bland in Smash.

Why is everyone fucking dying

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ike truly got dropped quickly

Well, was he actually put as DQ?
If he hasn't yet can he still come back? Sucks when they do this shit, a tournament this big, I'd just force myself to do it.

>the most skilled players can't consistently win in pools
This is how you know your game is trash. Upsets on this scale/quantity do not happen in a good competitive game.

If Ultimate continues to be a game of upsets like this, it's not gonna be very fun to watch. Frostbite, Suplex City, Prime Saga, Pound, it just keeps happening.

Coney is also a known shitposter, he could be in this very thread.

He had a few good early results but once the pgr season started he crashed hard and eventually had a mental breakdown and falsely accused ally of being a pedophile.

none of the matches that would've involved him had happened yet, so it wasn't such a big deal

CRINGE

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Wait Mistake did that? I thought Lima did that

But Smash 4 is considered the second worst game and ZeRo won 57 consecutive tourneys

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Olimar is only well-written in 1.
>Pikmin 2
>Olimar is totally ok going back to the planet that almost fucking killed him to get some money
>Pikmin 3
>Olimar basically just jobs

Plup lost. =(

>the same guy winning all the tourneys is exciting to watch unlike new fresh faces doing it.
kys

>one player doing well consistently is the same as this

Lima also had a breakdown of his own. Said he felt like a circus act. He is.

Can chu make top 8 or is he totally washed?

I disagree with 2. It's clear that he fell in love with the Pikmin and from his writing in 1 you can tell he's a curious person who love to learn and exlore, so it's no surprise he'd be okay with an excuse to go back, especially now that he has as much time as he wants and isn't afraid of dying/being stranded.
Also his family is shit so while it's kind of dark, it makes even more sense he'd want to leave.

Pikmin 3 was stupid, yeah. I still like the game but there's no reason Olimar should have been a victim. They should have handled Olimar as someone you know is on the planet but you're always missing them, like you come across some dead boss and the 3 wonder what killed it but the player just knows.

lima just cried about toxicity and how he only likes to play bayo and left semi-normally.

He's a league player now and is on twitter like normal (@limaleague)

he can probably make top 16 depending on the bracket

Maybe they aren't as good as people make them out to be. Could be Ultimate has more hometown heroes capable of holding their own then the other games.

>Pacman on stream
That's when you know good shit is on

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In Ultimate or Melee? If it's Ultimate, I'm not surprised. If it's Melee, then congratulations to Hbox.

I’m highly doubtful of Chu beating Gahtzu

Did he enter Melee? Thought he took a break because of Hbox.
Anyways yeah congrats Hbox on your win.

oh no no no

>WAAAAAAA MY WAIFU ISNT WINNING

Christ, this "Gods" mentality needs to stop

Honestly I just half looked so I thought it was hand warmers at first lol. Chu is looking better than I expected though.

He entered both.

Hasn't been in these for a while, mentioned he doesn't like nu-Yea Forums that much

Welcome to the smash community.

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The break is over, Plup said he's entering both Ultimate and Melee.
>Anyways yeah congrats Hbox on your win
If Plup and Zain are still in, I don't think we can say Hbox is the winner yet. No more Armada or Leffen is a big advantage for Hbox though.

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has he been forgotten?

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it's because the gameplay itself isn't very fun to watch, so people need to get invested in storylines between the top players.
if those players get upset, you're left with a cold top 8.

it's been 4 years user
time to let go

only 1 month to go and hes back i cant wait bros

He needs to be. He is never coming back.

so who's gonna win this tournament now? Marss, Nairo, or Samsora?

Please post the image of hbox winning Summit vs Mew2King winning Summit.

is our guy bobby still in?

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POO POO U BTFO

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Holy 2saint

>One of the TO's for Apex confirmed that it's coming back in 2019
>PPMD was on Twitter saying that he's planning to come back in 2019 because he needs streaming/tourney money
It's time for Apex's reigning champion to return.

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2saint crazy
also goes to show you don't have to play puff like a gigantic pussy but unfortunately most do

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youtu.be/fEae34o_unU

Post smash Kino

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Like I said, congrats Hbox.

havent payed attention since the summit before armada retired. somebody give me a quick rundown. is m2k and mango still washed up? is plup a god? is hbox dead?

Wasn't he in jail for beating up someone?
I'd say it's better he's like this than being a typical nigger in jail.
Good job to him.

BobbyWasabi (MA unranked) beat Void
MattyG (9th in MA) beat Larry
Shyguy (CT/NY) beat Salem
Pelca (4th in MA) beat Sinji

NE is looking like a top region right now, and now LingLing (CT) is playing ANTi

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I'm glad he found meaning in his life. More gamers need this.

>is m2k and mango still washed up?
Very much so
>is plup a god?
No
>is hbox dead?
Hell no.

>At least he is reality

Are we sure Christians werent the fedorafags the whole time

Mang0 and M2K are still washed. M2K doesn't even practise Melee anymore, and he didn't enter singles here, but he did randomly win doubles.
Plup is a god.
Hungrybox is more unstoppable than ever.

Who the fuck is this and why does he sound like he is drunk off communion wine?

has leffen reigned over hbox yet or was 2016 a fluke?

youtu.be/LntYZNlz-wY

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I mean, to be fair, you can only play Melee for so long before you start to physically reject it, even if you are autistically obsessed.

Well there was EVO last year where Leffen dumped on everyone

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A fluke most likely. He doesn't stand a chance now that he spends all his time playing Ultimate.

This is the epitome of that feeling you get when you see a really good combo, but it isn't necessarily hype.

>M2k
M2k bustered out at Genesis 6 at 33rd place and hasn't entered a Melee singles event since - although he won Pound doubles with Plup.
>Mang0
Got a respectable 5th at Genesis 6, but hasn't gone to a Melee tourney until now.
>Is Plup a god?
"God" is more of a title for the 5 people who dominated tourneys in a specific era (kind of like how Ken is still the "King of Smash) - hence why Leffen or Plup aren't "gods." Plup came very close to sending Hbox into losers at G6 though.
>Is Hbox dead?
Unfortunately no.

What is it about Falco and alcoholism that go hand and hand together?

God I miss tekk

Both convey a self-destructive lifestyle

where's cinnpie

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Is Falco the ultimate "I can beat anyone but anyone can beat me" character or do the people playing him just suck?

>Vish
Name a shittier commentator

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>that fucking down tilt clink from the opposite side
how can palutena mains defend this shit

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he's such a pretentious prick

No name commentators who only come on because everyone else is in pools. However sometimes it isn't that bad because they are commentators who are local to whatever scene the major is at.

DJNintendo

>Peach has more kill power then max aura and max rage Lucario

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M2K has even played melee since August last year. The fact he managed a 33rd and won doubles right now with another rusted af player speaks wonders of him
He just has to unfuck himself mentally and train harder

PRAISE JESUS

>check the brackets
>literal who beat mkleo in pools
what the fuck is happening? i thought leo was more consistent than tweek, were they both just getting lucky this whole time?

Lord Sturm and all the other 3rd tier commentators from the Smash 4 era.

>Winner initiates hug after scream popoff

Thats fucking rude

Leo didn't lost, he got sick and called it quits.

>It's another Melee grassroots tournament tournament selling out and making their main game tr45sh
holy fuck melee is dead, western civilization is nironically ruined at this point

As it should be. Fuck Lucario, fuck Joker, and fuck comeback mechanics.

Who wants to play some Melee netplay or Ult arenas later?

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Eh kinda.
It's like Falco can fuck you up hard but he also gets fucked up hard.
People need to spam lasers and play neutral more instead of saying "FUCK IT, I'M GOING IIIIINNN" so much desu.

Why later? Why not right now?

Leo peaked with Ike and has been on a downward spiral since people learned to deal with him. His Wolf is mediocre as fuck and he isn't getting results with Marth/Lucina like he wants.

>kumiko still in
Absolutely based.

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he quit in the middle of the bracket? cmon leo

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I cannot right now, but later I can.

>listening to Smash "commentary"
>not muting the stream

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Celly is chillin's fiancee now? Kek she really wnats that greencard huh.

What the fuck?

What part of
>He got sick
What unclear?

She wants the B

Mang0 claims that Westballz and his controller seizures on shield ruined falco. He also claims to never play like him if you want to win. At least Ginger is a falco who also makes top tier analysis videos.

>anime reference
>"Oh that _______"
>nickname for a move like "the stankyleg"
>irrelevant diversion or story

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This

Those two are cancer incarnate.

smash.gg says he took a game off the dude before he lost so either he quit in the middle of the bracket or he actually got beat

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>sinji beat void 2-0

FUCKING BASED. Sinji had really lacked wins on top players compared to tea so I'm pleased for him.

how hard is it to find a tournament set to put on stream fucking gimr

I don't know about ruined falco but there are definitely times where he chooses needlessly convoluted options over simple and effective ones yeah.
If people wanna get good at falco they should probably study PP.

Gimr has been coasting off of reputation alone for a while now, how has it even worked this long?

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A lower skill ceiling means it's easier for "top players" to lose.

what did you expect from Y*hova is my Boulder

>upsetted
>emojis
Stupid fucking nigger.

>vish and chillin banter
Why is melee comms so much more soulful than ultimate?

>sheik ditties

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based wizzy

>another top 100 win for qerb, HTwa
the train never ends. reminder that /ourguy/ G&W beat cob and michael

whats the deal with HT, didn't he go tranny for a bit then switched back?

because the alternatives are even shittier, like 2gg

>Official Nintendo tournaments

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There is literally not a single good Smash commentator outside of the Black Plague and that is simply because of pure entertainment value; not insight or merit.

>A Sheik that actually train grabs other Sheiks
About fucking time

Ultimate fags are even higher on the autism spectrum and fell for the esports meme

Commentary power rankings:

GOD TIER
>Summit God Couch
>PPMD
>mango
>Armada
>leffen
>mango leffen combo
>Blur

High tier
>Scar and Toph on topic
>Husband and Wife
>Waffles and Phil
>EE

Mid tier:
>Scar and Toph off topic
>Tafo
>Lovage
>Webs
>Slime
>Ludwig

Shit tier:
>Fendy
>DJNintendo and La Moona

Dead Gods tier:
>D1 and Prog

nice try blur

DARK WIZZZZZZYYYYYYYYY

Why won't Nintendo just fucking learn that most people prefer the game without items? Even the casuals I play with at work want items and hazards off.

>no chillin in god tier

There are some okay ones, but I wish we had a melee Tastosis.

>anime picture
stopped reading there.

Based Wizzy.

Chrom was such a mistake, who thought giving a swordie with brawler frame data the ability to space and dish out huge, safe damage was a good idea?

I hate that the items in Ultimate are so consistently shitty that even the most casual of casuals just wants them turned off completely, I miss when the worst map in the series was Icicle Mountain and nothing else could compare

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Seriously. The items are just too high impact now. Grabbing a beam sword in Melee meant shit was going down. A Pokeball was insanity. Now there's like a million items that just outright fucking murder you.

>ultimatefags not realizing that competitive smash was born because a bunch of autists found out that melee had some competitive value in it
>not realizing that brawl/tr4sh was a by product of a group of even biggers autists who forced a competitive scene out of the next sequel despite the fact that Sakurai/Nintendo actively botched any sort of competitive depth in Brawl/Tr4sh
>not realizing that even to date competitive smash is a foreign concept to Sakurai and Nintendo

That’s a big yikes from me dawg.

>BBB playing boyd in losers
oof

Why is Coney so great

At least we already hit rock bottom as far as stages go.
I seriously can't see there ever being a stage worse than 75m.

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Sakurai thinks making items stupid somehow helps casuals when it hurts them more then anything.

Literally everyone realizes this dude. It's just an inconvenient truth.

Ultimat has son of the best items though. Warp Star, Launch Star, Rage Blaster, Killing Edge, and Fake Smash Ball are all top tier and don't try to say otherwise

they know, sakurai is just autistic about it

Absolutely correct. I was invited to a family gathering last night and the kids were playing Ultimate. Literally 5 stock no items FD/battlefield.

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Smash Ultimate did go in the right direction by adding items that work on a smaller scale (rage blaster and killing edge are both nice examples) but the stupid shit from Smash 4 and Brawl wasn't removed.

A Villager beat Void?
God damn nice. Most likely lack of matchup experience?

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The Rage blaster is just another I win button, the fake smash ball is only ever detonated on accident, agree with the killing edge and the launch star though

>warp star
melee item
>launch star
smash 4 item
>rage blaster, killing edge
good additions, going back to just simple weapons but with a unique functional gimmick
>fake smash ball
shit along with actual smash balls

can't decide whether Villager or Sonic is the most cancerous character in the game

Oh wait launch star wasn't in smash 4, mis-remembered, put it under good addition

Void just seems to have trouble with zoners. Got eliminated by Sinji's Pacman in losers. And last week he got eliminated by YB's Dark Samus at Prime Saga.

Ultimate is cancer as a whole

You know what the worst offense is fucking assist trophies and pokeballs spawning WAY TO MUCH for some reason if they're turned on. It wouldn't be so badif they weren't all OP as shit.

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>worst
As someone that plays tons of FFA matches with my tourneyfag autist brothers, I can say without a doubt that Super Mario Bros is the worst stage ever made for Smash Brothers

>These are the casual elitists on Yea Forums

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/Our guy/ is playing, Yea Forums

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>salem
>anyones guy

>the call that saved ultimate

>Throw out a Pokeball in 64/Melee
>Charizard blows fire from side to side for 10 seconds before disappearing

>Throw out a Pokeball in Brawl and onwards
>50% chance a legendary comes out and rapes the entire screen

1. Lucina
2. LUCINA

Was it a requirement to be a faggot to main her?

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I miss getting excited when a legendary would come out of the pokeball and it would be marked as a special event if it happened in the log. In Ultimate its every fucking time and its always some full screen bullshit that kills you with 0 counter play

>Black furry
>Anyone's guy

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let me play faggots, I'll take the tourney.

>Larry Lurr's tag

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>Black Plague
fucking cringe kys

Based.

As far as gay furries go Salem is as good as it gets.

>and it would be marked as a special event if it happened in the log
That only happened with Mew

I thought it happened for some of the other ones too, havent actually played Melee since PM was still a thing

top 24 melee, i.e. the only good part of majors, up next

>throw Pokeball in Melee
> 90% chance for a useless piece of shit like Porygon, Weezing, or Wobuffet
Duck off, Melee's distribution was shit too. You eother got a something useless or a legendary or Unown, with very little inbetween. At least most are useful in Ult.

>he never found Celebi
Noob

>Porygon
>useless
shitter detected

salem was super based for being correct but lets be honest, he will never be larry levels of based

Is there a stream for losers I wanna see jerry v lucky.

unironic, tell me the room and I'll join nerds.

How is stating the obvious in the most retarded and asshurt way even remotely based?

Snake is cancer.

Today is Lucina's birthday!

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Absolute legend.

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t. braindead rushdown main

vgbootcamp3 is switching to melee

he was correct and exposed the massive amount of denial in the community, its based

Maybe she'll win the tournament on her birthday weekend.

>grenade
>grenade
>grenade
>ftilt
>grenade
>run away
>Nikita
>grenade
>uptilt for killing
Fun character.

Why is Larry having such a hard time to keep up in this game?

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He's right...who could possibly like nu-v

hbox officially actually literally killed melee

He did, and people are surprised?

The bad guy won

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Based IcyMist. ZeRo and Tweek already knew this game was Inconsistent. Ppl still haven't figured this out yet

reminder he was never wrong and got crucified because Leffen is a Judas

he's a fag but it's not his fault everyone else are shitters who do nothing but cry about the matchup or drop out.

t. Leffen

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Fuck Puff holy shit
People have the AUDACITY to claim the character is balanced when Falco can Dair -> FSmash -> Bair while puff is out of jumps and she still comes back

Falco is cool though.

>tfw you will never dominate a game so hard that you kill it

retarded
turns out being good at smash 4 or melee doesn't make you good at ultimate at all
larry, salem, leffen, etc haven't had good results at all

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Why are upsets a bad thing again? the upsets I'm seeing were legit good plays from the underdogs

he was actually doing alot worse before and is improving very quickly, i think hes just getting older and doesnt have the time ,or possibly, the will to grind as much

Is leffen the best melee player that went to ultimate?

Once again how is stating the obvious in the most retarded and asshurt way even remotly based? Only the most delusional melee cocksuckers would think any of the melee players were in it for anything other then money. All Salem did was make it clear just how jealous he is of them for making easy money while he foams at the mouth and gets dropped by his sponsors.

It all boils down to MUH TOP PLAYERS SHOULD BE THE ONLY GOOD PLAYERS

>always liked HBox
>eventually grew to hate Melee but still liked him
>HBox now has a stranglehold on Melee and Meleefags are fucking losing it
Loving every laugh.

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i dont think you understand the concept of being based

reminder that armada placed puff at #1 on his melee tier list

>Stranglehold
He made the finishing blow

>likes hbox
>hates melee
checks out

there needs to be consistency first, for there to be upsets at all
4 never had the 'hey see this new trick?' thing that even melee still has today. ultimate has a small chance of having a little of that.

Plup might be better
M2K might get there if he practices
Armada and Hbox are kinda shit

you mean better at melee or better at ultimate? leffen is the best of the melee players in ultimate, but armada is better than him at melee, but not ultimate.

>why did he call them out on their horseshit?
>now the man who sits back, takes abuse, and then welcomes them back with open arms like a good little cuck, THAT man is based!

Armada is without a doubt better than plup at ultimate

Melee players dont make good money what are you talking about? If they wanted money they would go literally anywhere else.

this is really the only reason people like hbox

I don't give a fuck virgin, snake skills from brawl transfer every time to ultimate. Invite me losers.

Yeah we should totally have another Zero Smash 4 situation where the same dudes win every tournament, only for shakeups to happen a year from now, that sounds so fun to watch.
>Melee comparison out of nowhere
Fuck off.

>Off topic melee comparison
Cope harder

he's talking about making money from streaming ultimate. when ultimate came out, all the top streamers (i.e., who were receiving the most views, subs, and donations) were melee players. so he's saying salem got pissy because he and the rest of the tr4sh community lost out on cash and because melee players cucked them out of it, they played ultimate on stream only for the money.

Mango leffen and armada still play/stream ult though. So clearly it wasnt just the money. How is everyone in the nu-smash community so fucking stupid?

Larry and Salem have decent results. Ppl loved to claim this game is consistent, but theres so many upsets. Hmmmm.

Also ppl Sm4sh was actually fairly consistent throughout 2015-2016. It only got really bad during 2017.

they still do, salem has been proven correct at every turn and nobody has the nads to break the mold cuz they need those twitchbux

>get to know a girl through a dating app
>after a few days of writing SHE ASKS ME if we can meet up she really wants to see me
>meet up in the middle of the night at a dark fucking parking lot and just talk and have fun for literal hours
>drive home, send her a voice message (we did this a lot of times at that point) saying I really enjoyed it and I thought she's super cute
>she listens to it only next day
>barely responds properly to the things I said
>Doesn't tell me at all if she thought the same, no compliments at all
>goes quiet, doesn't quite ignore me but gives one word replies
>I'm like okay I'll just ask her directly if she just doesn't want to meet anymore and that's it, no need to autisticly analyze her signals if I ask straight up
>Tells me no everything's alright she still wants to meet again
>That's all she says
>Another day of barely any communication, before we met we sent messages all day
>Ask her again if something is up because every time a woman gives signals like that it means she wants to push the guy away without sounding like a horrible human i.e. women are bad with rejecting people
>She says nah it's all good but still never compliments me or says it was a great time whatever
>one day later, texting kinda got how it used to be again
>Ask her if she wants to hang out sometime soon
>She says her next free day is sunday she'll get back at me when she knows if she can
Bros what the fuck? I asked her twice directly and both times she said she still wants to meet. This is confusing as fuck. When we met she ttold me stories about her room mate and cats and whatnot and constantly say "maybe you'll meet them soon" and generally was really flirty with me, even read through our sex horoscope as for fun and whatnot

Am I just stressing things? I really cannot tell if I should initiate conversations and shit, every signal she gives tells me to fuck off and everything she tells me directly tells me it's fine. Help a bro out here.

>low iq zoomers
no (you) fuck off

No, Salem was pissed because the Melee community was going
>omg isn't it so nice that the communities are getting together like this

the fact that they still play the game proves 1 of 2 things
>1. that they are giving the game a fair chance or just like it so salem is wrong
>2. even if salem is right and they are only doing it for the money, they are preventing money from going to tr4sh players
either way it's a win for the melee community

They're only """"upsets"""" because we consider Smash 4 players the same level as they were before. The top has been pretty damn consistent.

Good argument, go jack off to your Mango shrine.

>459289001
>We're the zoomers
You literally brought the footnote out of nowhere meaning you want to engage with people about it. Fuck off.

cute gamer girl :3

you never had one to begin with zoomer

>drive home, send her a voice message (we did this a lot of times at that point) saying I really enjoyed it and I thought she's super cute
where you fucked up. but what is this copypasta? something Tweek wrote?

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>Melee community is responsible for any gap between them and other communities.
the only person at fault for this is sakurai for only making bad games after melee

>The unfinished game is good but everything else is bad
Great logic there bud

>where you fucked up
Should I just not have initiated saiyng something like that to not give her the feeling of already having me on the hook or what?

is it actually a grill?

it's not worth finishing something if the refined product is better than the unrefined product

youre not in the know it would seem, the money grubbing was only one aspect of the salem situation. the bigger blowup happened because salem called out melee players for being bad at other games and there was other subsequent things as well

what is that and why

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is kiwi a girl or a >girl

>it's not our fault we were cunts, you should've played a better game instead of being a mindless corporate whore
Go to bed Armada.

Half the shit that the melee community used wasn't intentional at all. Even better, the devs didnt know it was there. Melee is the equivalent of eating undercooked meat.

A snoopy T-shirt

fucking yes cunt holy shit, never seen someone jump the gun so quick.

Ya probably, sounds like you're suffocating her
Just be cool

>it's not our fault we were cunts
Your'e just making shit up.

1. Why are you asking for dating advice in the Yea Forums Pound tournament thread? 2. Yes, women generally hate that shit. Dread game is what you need. 3. Ignore her for a few days completely, because if you keep pestering her your already low chances will drop to none. If she has any real interest she will initiate again, but her saying she's free on Sunday but not 4 u means she has moved on already.

Kiwi is biologically a girl, yes

Alright, how do I fix this now? Just not initiate messages again until she tells me when she wants to meet?

>Firefoxes within Sheik's bair range for the 500th time
drooling_wojak_in_c9jersey.bmp

what is up with the constant gamewars anytime melee is mentioned? can melee players really not go 2 seconds without hopping on a high horsed rant about how melee is the best thing ever made and hbox is literally hitler for playing it

>HAHAHA BRAWL SUCKS PLAY A REAL GAME!
>THE ENTIRE FGC IS NOTHING BUT CORPORATE WHORES AND MINDLESS SHEEP!
>I WAS HAULING CRTS WHEN YOU WERE STILL IN DIAPERS YOUR SCENE ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE OF US RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!
See this is the exact problem. The Melee community has been absolute cunts to everyone else because they have a massive God complex, and they can't admit it.

girl. she cute

>but her saying she's free on Sunday
I guess. Do you think chillin until next Sunday, which is more than a week, and then asking her on monday if she didn't write me/hit me up to meet is because she's not really interested is the way to go if I want closure? I feel like obviously it's over if I hear nothing at that point.

>Popoff after the SD

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So every person in the melee scene has said this or acted like this? No of course not. You just want to vilify an entire community because of the actions of a few. How does that makes any sense?

Yeah, but there is no 'fixing this'. None of this guarantees she'll be attracted to you, just gives you better odds than your current antics. Find some other girl in the meantime, your current girl sounds like a slut if she is talking about sex on the first date.

2 of those are objectively right. I don't even play melee

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Is Kiwi a tranny or?

>tfw no kiwi gf

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>closure
Closure is a dumb meme, don't fall for it. Beta male mindset, TheRedPill is a gay meme but you could use some framing tips from it

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>Kiwi has to be a tranny
She's a woman.

POST PICS OF THE GIRL
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SO FUCKING CUTE.
CLEAN GAMEPLAY TOO.

Also what the fuck my sister also mains kirby and pit.

its a much higher percentage of meleefags than any other scenes. hell even capkeks arent this insecure and theyre universally hated

So is this a freebie for Samsora?

The melee community is literally famous for this kind of behavior.

My wife is good at video game

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Nah trannies play girl characters or stuff that's pseudo-manly. Girls play cute stuff and retarded boys.

Lucky is out

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Oh so you know that for sure? Fuck off dude you're just saying what you want to believe.
No, they aren't. Tell me how you could possibly prove this?

this is the second girl Pac-Man main I've seen.
Kiwi and Port are cute!

>sfat vs HBox next round
I want to believe SFat can do it but in my heart I know he can't

You've seen one Melee set you've seen them all, just dashdancing until you get a quick ombo that kills at like 50%

>Think Esam's kind of a piece of shit
>He's playing Samus
I'm conflicted

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Leffen better stfu if Hbox wins Pound after he dropped out of a game he apparently loves to play one he doesn't really like, because he had a sore throat.

Squad strike aka your main + Wolf and Lucina

Commentary
>"I'm not sure what the actual rules are!"
Goddamn nogs

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newfag

this behavior has been observed and documented for years my friend, stay in denial if you want. fact of the matter is melee is a good game that attracts a large proportion of dickish manchildren

Ultimate still shitty?

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The Mortal Kombat community has actually been way uglier than Smash has in the run up to the Summit. I never say this but someone really needs to crack Tweedy's skull at the Summit.

Where is this proof then friend?

t. someone who has watched exactly one melee set

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Forgot how insane Mango is. I missed Melee bros.

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It's so weird to me that Meleefags have spent like 10 years shitting on other games and picking fights with the FGC, and now that it's come to bite them in the ass, they're trying to pretend they never did anything wrong. Even in this very thread they go "MELEE IS WAY BETTER, ULTIMATE WILL NEVER COMPARE" as seen here then simultaniously pretend Meleefags don't have their heads up their asses or that it's a "vocal minority" when they rallied with Mango and Leffen who were shitting on 4 when it was new.

Esam is such a based retard.
It sucks if you suck.

holy based

HOLY
FUCKING
BASED

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Unironically based

browse twitter for 5 minutes, read smashboards for a bit, hell check out some youtube comments or attend a single event. im not gonna spoonfeed you

yeah but mortal kombat games are seasonal so its alot easier to ignore

holy jesus fucking christ that is based

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twitter.com/Kiwi_burd/status/1113110042226688001

sorry to burst your bubble

TRANNIES IFFY UH, FAGGOTS GOT THE STIFFY UH

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/ourguy/ KJH shitting on that alchoholic wifebeater

No way this is real. Isn't that Bizkit's gf?

>spoonfeed
concession accepted

Still she based.

why do you retards constantly make fake tweet images and why do a zillion nu-Yea Forums fags believe it

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this is my new smashfu

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...

It's basically the same. She backpedaled before all the trannies came crawling out and tried to kill her but you can tell she's fucking seething at them.

I don't remember MK ever being this shitty til' now. I thought the Smash summit generated salt, that was baby mode to the shit said in the run up to Summit. All that WonderChef and tweedy stuff, Chris G dropping out etc...

You're projecting low self esteem with this "Do you like me? Do you like me? Oh God please tell me you like me" stuff.
That shit is pussy repellent.

Axe hype

Kiwi has a boyfriend, but it's Bizket who is based and makes great vids, first time I've been happy for a "gaming/YouTube" couple

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mk scene has always been full of trashtalking edgelords, its just more visible now is all

cute cat