Why Nintendo never created its own Gran Turismo?

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Nintendo only knows how to make platformers and fire emblem

They did, called Mario Kart.

this. their shooter is splatoon what did you expect?

>playing GT2 again
>mfw trying to gold all licenses

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Based user.

>have Mario Kart
>massively more popular
>isn't a realistic racing sim title so you're allowed to have unrealistic gameplay mechanics like items and anti-gravity tracks and obstacles on the track
>also not like the numerous other realistic racing games on the market so you don't have to worry about genre saturation
>shits on other kart racers through passive existence
>comes out once a generation so you don't have to worry about your game being rendered obsolete in 1-2 years
>don't have to pay automobile manufacturers for rights to use their car names
>featuring Isabelle from the Animal Crossing series

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This, if Nintendo really wanted a racing sim they could just go to Konami to revive their enthusia racing sim and have exclusive publishing rights to it.

Those engine sound nice youtu.be/k8mkVDhIsv8

This is now a thread where we post cars

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Ok then.

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Nintendo is for kids and kids only like go karts

Initial D: Street Stage is the best racing game on PSP.

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>only 120€
>actually runs too

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Peugeot 205 is better

pic related is the car that carried me through early GT4

I just want a GT4 style game for the PC.

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TVR made some weird cars

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Burnout is better.

Nice. I'm working on the Endurance races, myself.
Good luck, user.

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I forgot which Gran Turismo game it was but there was some later license test where you drove I think a Viper GTS on laguna seca and it drove me crazy

wtf? are those real life 2 hours?

It was GT3. That game had the worst license tests by far, so I don't blame you.

Sort of. The "2 Hours" is just kind of an estimate if you follow the trend of AI cars racing that event. It's really just a fuckton of laps each.

MERCI TWINGO

oh god dont ever attempt to get gold licenses in GT (unless you REALLY want the prize car). Most of the cars are horribly tuned and have the worst fucking understeer.
its like, take this hairpin in 19 seconds with this smart car.

Didn't one of the GT games actually have a way for you to do a 24 hours race or do I misremember?

I never fucking finished one of those races, way too long for me

>tfw maximum comfy

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No, you're right. Both GT4 and GT5 had the 24hours at Nurburgring and LeMans, 100% real time (Unless you did B-Spec, which let you speed up the process by 4x)

The older games had it a bit more sensible. They're just 60 or so laps. Doing those long 24 hour races though? Alone? Fuck that. But if you do it with a friend, make a night out of it with some drinks, it's actually a good time.

GT4, 5 and 6 all have 24 hour races, but you can save between the pitstops to come back on later.

Mario Kart isn't a real racing game because there are items.

It sounds stupid, doesn't it? Yet people say the same thing about Smash...

thats not even the worst part, rome circuit is a trash track.

I did that in some PS1 game called Le Mans or something. Had a sleepover at a buddy's place and we took turns driving.

It was pretty miserable really.

>GT2 turns 20 this year

Where does the time go, bros...

why doesnt it sound stupid? what 'items' would use use in a fucking racing simulator.

>playing GT3 again
>just straight up addicted again

Nintendo is not really one to go after a genre because it was a success for someone else. Like they haven't ever really made an "X Killer". They really only make a game for a genre when they feel they have a idea for it and there's not really any room for new ideas when it comes to racing, especially their twist (kart racing) was created decades ago.

The best thing about Gran Turismo was trying to get by in the career mode early on when you had shitbarns

I loved that part

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I think you can only save and come back in GT5. Yeah, I remember that being a big update POST release, too. GT6 only has 24 "Minutes" at Nurburgring, which is retarded. GT4 you were shit outta luck.

>The perfect racing game is gonna be 20 years old this year
I wanna go back

>Konami revive Enthusia
>Exclusive publishing rights
Don't you dare make me buy a Switch for Enthusia 2. I'll never forgive you.

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>The best thing about Gran Turismo was trying to get by in the career mode early on when you had shitbarns
>
>I loved that part
Same. i miss racing progression.

>GT3
>do a 10 race chamionship with actual race cars
>takes almost an hour to do
>win a basic mazda rx-7

games went to shit after Porsche 2000.

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24 minuets isnt that like three laps.
DESU i only ever enjoyed arcade mode in gt6, grinidng for new cars felt like such a chore even if i did racetracks i really liked like brands hatch.

Acid

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That's what new racing games lack, really. I swear it was more fun to drive shitboxes for the first portion of the game than all the supercars in the world.

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its because racing tires sucked all the fun out of the car. sports tires were peak fun on high end cars.

You could switch to the AI driver in GT4.
It was sorta retarded tbqh. I remember it crashed in the same spot on every lap of LeMans.

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That's it. I remember not being interested in any racing games for a while, since my GT thirst had dried out until I got my hands on Forza Horizon, the first one. It had progression and you had to work your way up to the fast cars.
Now, both GT Sport and FH4 have stupid spin wheel lootbox shit that just hands you a top-end race car. What's the point?

>vitz championship race
>win another vitz

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>youtube.com/watch?v=bYOf887AH3Y

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gran turismo could have been the classic car racing simulator we all dreamed of but instead we have 9000 different versions of the 2012 ford focus.

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That and I like how it doesn't have some hyper mega tournament thing.

God, those pictures have a sound
And it's this: youtube.com/watch?v=eZfRlraBNQc

Yeah as much as I loved Forza Horizons 4 the game gave me an Agera RS like immediately. There is no progression.

They also fucked up the online in the game in that you couldn't pick your type of race and class, so going online was almost always A or S class

Are normal Forza games different?

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MERCI TWINGO

Because Japs can't make driving games.

Nice youtube.com/watch?v=ar7ZzHJId3g

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>tfw Americans will NEVER EVER be allowed to buy a based new Jimny

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That is one cool Supra

I kind of want to see a spiritual successor to Ridge Racer show up on Switch rather than another Gran Turismo kind-of game. Something structured like Rage Racer mixed with Type 4 would be my fucking jam.

>Start from the very bottom racing barely-modified road cars
>Slowly work your way up to faster machinery
>Eventually have to choose between going it alone as a true independent or becoming a driver for a top team
>Crazy-Ass race courses in cool locations
>Livery editor and Body Kit customization if you go the driver/owner route, with the aero changing how the car feels

Alternatively, a Battle Royale racing game that's like Mario Kart mixed with SplitSecond wearing an OG Speed Racer skin.

Why don't racing games have intro Kino anymore?
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Just LOOK at this shit!

user...

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>superior white

Now this is my kind of automaker.

/Thread

That's a Honda NSX retard

Because Nintendo players aren't old enough to drive.

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I cant fuckin believe GT2 isn't a PS one classic.
What kind of fucked up shit is that

Vector and Venturi, user.
Licensing is a nightmare for that game.

Wish I had one

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Fuck. This is so good.

Wish i remember how to ride a stick. Went autotragic for years now, in a sense it's the right thing since my commute to work is like 2 hours one way.

Is this the car they took the headlights off of to put them on the Lamborghini Diablo?

>Doing those long 24 hour races though? Alone? Fuck that.
I did all the endurance races in GT5 on my own except the 24hr Nurbugring.
>decide to cheese Le Mans 24hr with the Formula GT so I can leave it for hours and not lose positions
>get 8-9 hours in and it goes dark
>Formula GT cars don't have headlights
Redid it with the Red Bull X2010 and it got to the point I could complete the Porsche Curves flat out with my eyes closed.
Sending B-Spec Bob through the early cups and championships in the X2010 was pretty fun to see too.

Ridge Racer was the best arcade racer i dont know if this shit was intentional but drifting was fucking gold.
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isn't that a 300zx?

Every car's manual will feel different anyway. And if you learned how to drive it once you can re-learn it in a few hours ez. Don't be afraid.

Venturi is still around and races in Formula E. You could probably see their cars back in a future GT game.

Vector though... No fucking way anybody is going to be able to get those cars into a racing game again. Even a fantasy version might trigger all kinds of lawsuits from like 4-5 different parties.

>B-Spec Bob
Did I just get a fucking nostalgia run for GT5? What the hell? I'm getting old.

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Can't they just remove those?
iirc, they removed certain cars depending on region to begin with.

Nintendo doesn't do realism

keep your shilled shit on /o/

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Nah, all the cars they removed were for all regions. Opel got changed to Vauxhall in the UK and the Acura line up was in the Honda dealer in Japan I THINK.
Changing up all that stuff in a 20 year old game probably isn't viable. Who knows where the original stuff is anymore, or if it even exists, since the Japanese like destroying their dev copies and shit.

Give up. Us Jimnychads own this place.

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The real question is why there isn't an open world Mario Kart that plays like Forza Horizon. There's so much you could do with an open world and karts that can fly, dive and drive anti-gravity

licensing cars from real brands is cancer
especially how you can't damage them

It hurts so much this car would annihilate any fiat Chrysler garbage jeep they pump out over here for a 1/4th of the cost

>open world Mario Kart

That's fucking retarded desu

I feel loike Gran turismo sport is just cleverly camouflaged Gran turismo 7 prologue, I mean all recent updates adds normal cars, I bet they are just using gt sport as a stepping stone for manufacturing car models for next GT.

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Why does it have 2 sticks?

Some more car porn

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4 wheel drive vehicles for a long time had 2 sticks, 1 to control 4wd and 1 to control the transmission

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People only like these because it makes them seem more knowledgeable about cars. They're essentially the original smartcar but people haven't heard of these little foreign toy cars do it's cooler.

They can't even beat the shittest Jeep sales in europe. shitsuzki left the US market for a reason.

like what you could do? burnout paradise or test drive but with karts? pretty stupid

I half hope so and half hope not. Cause if GT5P was better, as a whole game, than GT5, and GTS is better too, we're in for a rough time.

As a die hard GT fan for so long. GT sucks compared to forza 7

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Learn English you piece of shit fucking pajeet retard.

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Why don't they just make a new racing game that is like old Gran Turismo where you have to work your way up from shit cars to slightly less shitty ones with a career mode, money etc. and good online races.

I don't want arcade only games and I don't want games where you only drive supercars

ROOOOLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART

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Forza 7 is pretty bad, too. Racing games in general are garbo nowadays. Like said, the lack of progression is what makes them not fun anymore.

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Because Nintendo aims to make fun games

Did someone at Aston Martin decide they needed more trunk space?

Technically B-Spec Bob was GT4 only since GT5 had you create different drivers with actual names and temperaments and shit.

I feel the same, as many in this thread, I was always thinking of GT titles as RPG, just instead of armor and sword you buy and upgrade cars. I miss this progression.

No, that was the 300ZX.
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Just so you guys are aware. When they make a new z model I'll buy it.

I'd buy the current one if the interior wasn't like 10 years behind the competition.

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>The real question is why there isn't an open world Mario Kart that plays like Forza Horizon
Because there aren't enough characters. Forza's focus is on the cars. Not the people driving them.

I always thought of it more as Pokemon with cars.
>take your pick from a very limited choice to start with since you only have 10,000 cr.
>level that up with some upgrades til you can get more
>use those to expand your garage til you've got all your favourites

They have cruis'n and excite series if you for some reason don't count Mario kart.

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because they hate realism

It's because a large part of the racing market just wants to drive hyper cars all day and have no love for progression or the quirks of older and lower cars.

>massively more popular
Among children, shills and competitive garbage.

>isn't a realistic racing sim title so you're allowed to have unrealistic gameplay mechanics like items and anti-gravity tracks and obstacles on the track
Is that supposed to be a positive?

>also not like the numerous other realistic racing games on the market so you don't have to worry about genre saturation
Rather than genre saturation, it's franchise saturation. Yet another fucking spin-off with the same fucking characters over and over.

>shits on other kart racers through passive existence
Any other kart racer has always been a bootleg of MK, it doesn't take any effort to be better than them.

>comes out once a generation so you don't have to worry about your game being rendered obsolete in 1-2 years
Until MK7 came out, then every MK has appeared around 1-2 years after.

>don't have to pay automobile manufacturers for rights to use their car names
Mercedes.

>featuring Isabelle from the Animal Crossing series
What?

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>superior white
I guess I know what I'll be buying next.

Holy yikes at this garbage post

because realistic car games are fucking BORING

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you are using too many big words, just say
>bing bang wahoo

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>Among children,
the target audience of all videogames

good

Reminder that Toyota is against video games now. One of their higherups literally said "if people can drive our cars in a video game they won't feel like they have to buy them in real life anymore"

I love it when they fall...

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why cant sony make good racers anymore

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Man the nostalgia vibes from this one picture are crazy.

Rate my car

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bro

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I don't understand why so many people put GT3 above GT4.

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fuck you

Maybe you're just a pleb that can't into braking

4 was grabage. Sure it had more cars and better tracks but they completely fucked the suspension physics and wheelspin did fucking nothing.

No it's an Mazda RX-7

>playing GT3
>win over powered race car
>win most races by at least 5-10 seconds
>doing a test course map
>should be easy enough
>just widen gear ratio and go
>porshe gets ahead of me somehow
>cant catch up

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wangan > tougay

GT4 had a 24 hour races but you could let the AI drive and speed it up so it would only last 8 hours. Give the AI good enough of car and you will never lose.

>porshe

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>star race
>go to bed
>wake up
>AI car somehow lost

I remember buying GT5 and grinding for tires so I can enter races. I bought the game with the intent of driving fast cars, but I spent most of the time driving cars my fucking dad drives. Fuck that shit.

>GT6 takes multiple hours to install

How can driving games be made challenging and difficult without rubberbanding being a thing?

Better AI and harsh punishment for rude racing.

pleb

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I can't get the first ib license on GT3, fuck me. It's impossible to turn right with that fucking corvette

I love slamming into people ahead of me in curves and using them as walls to bounce off of

Forza boys ww@

>Better AI
easier said than done. its probably one of the hardest things to program which is why most games just rubberband or give the AI artificial advantages on higher difficulty levels.

>Bigben Interactive is making Test Drive Unlimited 3
What are your hopes? Aside from cars hopefully not handling like shit and no more of that cringe Sims bullshit.

>I want to play a retarded kart game for kids that isn't actually racing and skill doesn't matter so everybody does take that sim fags
good cope

>Gran Turismo
Learn to Forza you fucking faggot

I know. But the post asked how and this how. And your post is why it's still not really happening.

MERCI TWINGO

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>skill doesn't matter
I see you never tried to go for world record lap times in Mario Kart and had to deal with shit like fire hopping

That because its a very boring simulation game that tries way to hard in the vehicle handling but still manages to have less cars tracks and basically everything good that forza has

The problem is they aren't making games like this anymore either

>I was just pretending to be retarded!
I love when they fall.

Don't you remember last gran prix when they were shooting shells at each other instead of seeing who can complete the course fastest?

Merci Twingo

It's embarrassing you think nintendo has the skill or resources to make a sim racing game, even if they did it wouldn't be half the game gran turismo is and look like shit.

Man if something like Mario Kart with bananas, shells, ink and so on was possible in real life I'd watch the shit out of that

fuck off you arcade racer tard

bing bang wahoo!

Us forza bros use discord
discord.gg/r6Zqf9T

Look everyone, the pot is calling the kettle a nigger.

nintendo didnt make that game
SEGA made that game

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Nintendo made the two ones before it though, those were pretty good too. And if you absolutely need Sega then get Sega cause i'm pretty sure they have a lot of free time these days

I used to play a racing game like 20+ years ago or so on the PC.
It was kinda like Mario Kart in the sense that it had powerups although I only distinctively recall you being able to lay down spikes behind you. I think it also had boost arrows.

It was realistic looking cars and looked a bit like F-Zero SNES, except more realistic. Although tracks did have parts where you went into a looping and then back to driving normally.

I wish I could describe it better. Anyone know what I could be talking about?

>doing this 10 years ago but with gt4
>mfw nurburgring sections
What the FUCk man

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i dont know man
they need all the people they can get to make those 5 yakuza games per year

Merci Twingo.
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What are some games where I can drive this beautiful barge?

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I remember the AI being super retarded but you could set up any of the group C or prototype cars so it can win Le Mans easily. Just give it the hardest tires and go for top speed. The car can't corner for shit, but the AI couldn't corner for shit either way. That way it won't need to pit as often for tires and it decimates everyone else on the long straight.

Isn't Formula 1 or one of those other races getting special limited-use boosts?

>automatic
You had one fucking job GM.

MERCI TWINGO

Forza 4 with all DLC
>wanting a manual in a cruiser
shit tier

The electric one, Formula-E.
They have a speed limit on all cars but unironically give out a temporary speed boost to the driver who gets the most support tweets during the race.

Yeah really.

>only 3 people
>they all use their own TVs and consoles for LAN even though the game supports 4-player split screen

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Wouldn't be hard for them. Smaller studios used to do it all the time.

GT2 got license with viper gts and screwdriver.
I remember trying to pass it whole day without success, next day, first try, got it.

Prototype version had a 6 speed and john moss built one with a 454.
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Can some car aficionado explain the meme behind "vipers / old porsches try to actively kill you"?

>They have a speed limit on all cars but unironically give out a temporary speed boost to the driver who gets the most support tweets during the race.

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I play racing sims with triple pedals and h-stick but no other game will let me buy any 80's shitbox hatchback I could ever wish for.

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Grinding made fun, trying to squeze some credits for turbo.

A thrid of the big screen is smaller than any of the individual screens.

>drive for an hour and lap the competition
>switch to AI on pitstop
>leave it on 4 out of 5 aggression with overtake enabled
>wake up
>sibling has turned off the ps2

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Vipers, Fast in the right hands deatch trap in the wrong because lack of driver aids
Old Porsche, fast in the right hands death trap in the wrong because rear mounted engine (which very few cars have) combined with lack of driver's aids leads to a car that is wildly unfamiliar even to even experienced drivers.

RWD + stupid amounts of power + no driving aids = death

MERCI TWINGO

>he hasn't memorized the nordschleife like the back of his hand

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Not enough processing power for a competitive physics engine

Do you want an easy mode?

>pass him
>fail
what

>They have cruis'n and excite series if you for some reason don't count Mario kart.
Surprise no switch port.

Cue Forza Horizon that gives you a Pagani Zonda R 15 minutes in. Fucking zoomers!

are you saying Splatoon isn't the best shooter of the gen?

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Go full fanservice and give the squid girls round full asses and lots of camera shots that focus in on that with collectable slutty outfits to dress them in and i'll give it some thought.

like this? she's got amazing midriff too

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>tfw GT sparked my interest in cars
>played every title that came out over the years
>literally only bought the ps3 for the GT titles
>tfw now 35 years old and just cant bring myself to shell out 400 bucks (switzerland lel) for a ps4 pro and GT sport
i just want to go back to those days when there wasn't a care in the world and i could sleep soundly without having to think about crap all the time that keeps me up all night..

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GT Sport is barely worthy of the GT name anyway. It doesn't have the classic career mode with licence tests and 500 different shitboxes and a gajillion races

typically you have to do something pretty extreme to get passed the pace car, I'm just a gran autismo and I hot lap the nordschleife all the fuckin time for fun

also huge praise to Polyphony on the nordscheife's accuracy in GT4, nowadays it's laser scanned in all major sims and GT4/5/6's example is still spot on compared to modern examples

Midnight Club 3 and Midnight Club Los Angeles have it.
That is, if you don't mind the silly nature of the physics in those games.

>oversteer: the game
Yeah I'll pass.

>have to pass without contact
>dumb shit AI drives into you
>fail

GT's hobo phase is great but it lasts maybe three races.

I still don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they made GT4 give you a 760HP car as a reward for the first Special Condition race.

I dunno if you don't tryhard around you can spend quite a few days having fun moving from shitbox to shitbox

It amuses me how nobody commented on this one.

That has to be one of the worst comebacks user has ever pulled.

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Being a show off I guess...

No you fuck, it was called F-Zero.
Real answer is they always relied on third-parties for racing sims.

You pretty much had to. There were a bunch of series that limited what sort of car & modifications you could bring to them.

>completely deliberately restricting your 60-tick game to just 15 by only sending every fourth packet online
Yeah, it's Nintendo alright. Nice game tho.

why? just a shitty lotus engine in a shitty opel

Don't pretend to be ignorant, child.

>child
sure kiddo. as i said, shitty opel omega with shitty lotus engine

Clearly you don't appreciate the classics. Maybe you're not a child physically... but mentally, you are. Google it until you're fingers turn purple.

>tfw even if we get a god tier GT again I won't play it cause I refuse to still support Sony and buy a PS5

RIP

Been wanting to emulate GT4 lately but I heard all the rom sites got taken down, where would I even find it?

After sport, I'm not sure, but I'd still do it if it's good.

drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B0kV137euCJhX0lsNElYa3hDRlE

Thank you

Kek

same reason they don't have a Halo, they know their hardcore fans aren't that much interested

Kaz should just focus on his racing career or retire from developing games. His autism will never allow a proper GT again and we also won't have something similar to Forza with him. Also what happende to their rpg game Kaz wanted to try?

Nintendo should have their own Gran Turismo but in ChoroQ chibi form, they already did it with a Mercedes in Mario Kart

oh boy i didn't miss this month's racing vidya thread
post homemade liveries

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KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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That one with the Camaro and the walls up I could never get, I did get the one with the gtr (you know, THAT one) but it took me hours

Good enough damage for me

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>trumpets and violins playing in the distance

GT2 was the only game where my car appeared and even then it was the "basic" V8 version.

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>Delta Integrale Evo
>80s
>Shitbox
Pretty clear you don't know shit about cars.