Less than week before release

>And then there are dozens of generic literally who tribes absolutely nobody cares about
Pol cares
They literally seething in every thread because central germany is wasteland full of barbarians who hate civilization

Because different games with different mechanics in different periods?
By your logic why would you play hoi3 when eu3 existed

These games have an alwful amount of weird "complexities"

I was doing the reconquista in EU4, just one more district to reconquer Spain and when I was about to do it the game kept telling me that I couldn't do so because they have allies that are still living?????? How is that realistic?

>being mad you can't instantly get the perfect peace deal without any effort
Have sex and play Fortnite.

Doesn't make sense that you can't conquer factions just because they have allies masturbating in the bushes somewhere.

If you got so defensive about a minor critique then this thread is obviously made by a Paradox shill

how the fuck do i stop being raped in eu4

Should I buy it on steem or gog?
I prefer gog as long as they don't require me to use gog galaxy for multiplayer.

Austria is quite easy if you're new.

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This, or play as France, The Ottomans, or England

If you fully occupy the war leader for 5 years you can force the peace. The reason for this mechanic is because in older versions of the game you could DoW a small nation, occupy them, and peace out before their allies could respond, ending the war. They tried to fix it by shifting War Leader to the strongest ally, but that led to what was called "cascading alliances" in EU3, where every time the war leader shifted, their allies got called, leading to WW1 size wars over the most minor shit.

Looks boring.
I would want some kind of america mod tho, gotta love pre-columbian contact theories.

what? there is no topc on /pol/ about this game

i tried to create prussia as brandenburg for like 10 times already, always get fucked over by some dumb thing

They came to complain here

>larping nordcuck pagans cares
Fixed that for you.

>Epirus
>Seleucid
>Bactria
>Phrygia
>Armenia
>Etrurians
>Lusitani
>Iceni
>Aedui
>Samnites

Yes, literally nobody to play besides Rome and Carthage.

Ally as many electors as you need to win the imperial crown. That will give a huge boost to your force limit. Don't be afraid of loans in the short term; it's a habit I need to break out of since loans were severely limited in EU3 and I will haven't quite gotten comfortable with them after 1000+ hours of EU4. Allying Austria until you get the crown yourself will prevent them from asking for unlawful territory. Or you can chain wars; they can't ask for unlawful territory if you're at war.

>muh pol muh pol
No one here mentioned them until you did
Rent free much

>Not forming the Roman Empire as the Etruscans

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Cani play as pontus?

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yes

based and etruscanpilled

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More Eurocentrism

*sigh*

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it looks pretty damn easy and I hate seeing massive merc armies in random provinces all over.
the AI barely expands while you can easily become the #1 powerhouse in under 100 years. will take many years of DLC for the game to really flesh out

Yes but why would you want to play as Pontus?

Pontic Greeks are the ugliest people ever.

>the AI barely expands
What?

Can I play as Finland?

...

>will take many years of DLC for the game to really flesh out

Just like every Paradox game there is. HOI4 is just starting to get great, Paradox games should be played 3 years after release.

That being said Imperator is the perfect balance between character importance, politics and strategy.

always max manpower before fighting a war early on
only ever fight on your own forts
dont fall behind on mil tech at any cost

Nope

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Make your own goddamn game, tard mesomeme poster

How can you form the roman empire as the enruscans wouldn't it be the enruscan empire?

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Childhood is playing EUIV and CKII
Adulthood is realizing Victoria II is better

I don't know how DLCs work on GOG, but its pretty easy to pirate DLCs on steam with CreamApi.

Are the generals of Alexander still around as characters when this starts?

He was a CONSUL of ROME

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Too lazy to build liquor factories desu

what are the chances their next game is gonna be Viccy 3. Imperator will be fun but it would be nice to have some other games without that Johan guy leading it

I feel like I dont get Victoria 2
I learned how to play at a basic level, increasing literacy, capping admin efficiency and building factories. But I didn't really get what to do after besides just sphering with influence which isn't very fun

>Persia

It's called Parthia now

Stellaris is the best paradox game

First run I will play as Basques or Sardinia and remove all Indo-"Europeans" invaders from Europe.

Do you think they'll let you play up to the rise of muhammad (PBUH)?

But can I found Greater Illyria?

Yes
>Childhood is playing EUIV and CKII
>Childhood
What
>Adulthood is realizing Victoria II is better
Victoria 2 is one of the worst selling their games in history of company, for a very good reason

The map seems really divided. Shouldn't most of Mesopotamia be held under Seleucis or Parthia?

Game ends before christ
But you can slaughter arabs in their barbaric shithole, just like germans

To be fair, it's years into the game so they might have collapsed

Going to play as judea and sack rome

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I don't understand this meme

Praise Baal

BASED
fuck the r*mans

>not conquering the world as macedon

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Mom said it's my turn to rule the world again.

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>2000 years later
>"Hey Ishmael, ever noticed how much of the media is under a Flavius or Valerius type of family?"

>2011 or 12 don't remember
>TW Rome 2 announcing it's playable factions one at a time
>every vocal hellenifaggots keep screaming about muh Arche Seleukidai after having Ptolemaic Egypt confirmed.
>Pontus is announced instead
>queue the Seleushitstorm
Fun-times.

what is the religion of the local arabs in game? not much about their religion is known because muslims destroyed everything. apparently they worshipped a different god for each day of the year.

meh, no chinese warring states

literal whos in antiquity. Literal whos in general desu senpai

zoroastrianism?

zoroastrianism didn't spread that far

Nah, that was just Persia and some neighboring regions.

>He isn't excited to form comfy maritime empire around the black sea as the Bosporean Kingdom

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I completely gave up on Paradox after Heart of Darkness. Fuck having to buy DLC that barely has any features just to make a game playable. People give the "but user paradox games are niche and they have to milk them really hard to be able to feed Johan" but CK2 and EU4 are fucking hits and have very active communities of normieshitters who pump out those instagram tier memes like the Darkest Dungeon Community. They could at least milk their games in a tasteful manner like the Endless Legend devs but instead Paradox insists I should pay them money for a single menu and "character creators". I'm pirating this when all the DLC are out in 5 years or so

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Daily reminder that Alexander was Greek.

Fight me, FYROM nerds.

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This, Bosporan master race, also
>colonize your way to the baltic sea for a monopoly on that sweet Amber

I mean, it's adherents did, anywhere there were Persians in any numbers you'd have a community of Zoroastrians, even though hte religion itself isn't evangelical. pre Islam Arabia also had sizeable populations of Jews and Christians, though their polytheistic pantheon was dominant among the natives.

BA'AL HAMMON BE PRAISED

who else S A B A gang?

>buying dlc when creamapi exists
baka desu senpai, hope you learned your lesson

Nothing wrong, Canada is US too

Alexander was Greek. But modern Greeks are as distant from him as modern Turks. No point in wewuzzing at all.

Reminder carthagineans LITERALLY threw babies into a pit of fire to please their demon-god

Praise be the Melqart teh Supreme Deiety. Praise be to the Lord of Heroes

*According to the Romans, their archenemies

Nobody actually buys DLC user, pretty sure Paradox relies solely on whales who do.

archeologists found a pit full of newborn bones though.

>Buying Paradox at release

>Not waiting atleast 1+ year until everythingis fixed at playable level and you can pirate atleast 2+ DLC that enhance the game

From the Roman invasion where they slaughtered every man, woman, and child.

I used to believe in voting with your wallet memes and thought backing jewish shit was excusable because at least my money would go towards Victoria 2 and this would increase the odds of another Victoria game, but I don't even want that anymore. I see the error of my ways now

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>one consul
Lmao

False flag

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>1+ years
1 isn't even close, not even 2. Stellaris and HoI are still unplayably bare bones

>no Han China
:/

The sale model doesn't rely on sensible people making a collective decision. It relies to the dozen or so retarded who will buy every single DLC due to disposable to irresponsible spending

Wait, are they going to portray the North as unwashed barbarians still even when we know so much more now than a few decades ago?

Does anyone understand what this guy said? All I read was "BAR BAR BAR BAR"

Yes the game starts 15y or so after Alex's death.

Stellaris is actually pretty decent. Especially if you role play as one of the more xenophobic governments.

Seriously
>tfw all that missed opportunity for AMBITION

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Celtic Confederacy or we riot. We sacked Rome before and by Cernunnos we'll do it again.

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that counts for every ethnicity there is out there tho. Do you think 200bc Britons Ceasar fought are the same with english people today? Or Modern Italians are the same with ancient Romans?

Too bad you can’t roleplay a race that uses wormhole generators anymore.

>we threw all these babies into a pit just to confuse future archeologists

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Wait for the DLC goy

>makes up stories
>doesn't know where Germany is

You guys seem all right. Don't go to Teutoburg Forest tomorrow.

That's a good thing, now modders will make a conversion mod that'll shit over vanilla.

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your legacy is what matters after all

But India, Middle East, and Northern Africa is playable...

its weird
We know China was a thing during this period and interacted with the Alexander successors. The war of the heavenly horses happens in this time frame.
Nooooooooo
I just wanna Alexander trek my ass to China

Is Syracuse a city state in the start of this?
I want to unite Sicily and just turtle the fuck out of that island

I think they're too ambitious by adding india right from the start. on the other hand persia players would only be able to expand west, so maybe it's not an entirely bad idea.

But germanic tribes where a bunch of uncivilised barbaric troglodytes back then.

I'll invade you

What is there to say, Europe is the only continent with history

>The Roman historian Diodorus and other ancient historians gave graphic accounts of Carthaginian child sacrifice: "There was in their city a bronze image of Cronus, extending its hands, palms up and sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire."

>Diodorus even said that some citizens who bought children from poor people and reared them specially for sacrifice believed misfortunes had resulted because they had not sacrificed their own offspring.

will this game have an option to raze cities?

India played a massive role to the mercantile politics of the mediterannean though, and having access to it's Spice and Silk via Egypt is what got Rome so rich.

Judaism

fuck off my island
maybe I'll try to take corsica and sardinia too but that might be too tough to defend against rome and carthage

>Be a huge Medeafag
How hard would it be to start out with Colchis? Its nu-paradox so it cant be that bad

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From what I saw from play throughs
You can kill the old nobility and shit.
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An excellent site for a new colony.

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Yeah they should have added the Cherokee or whatever, play 400 years not able to build ships and being stuck in tech 1. Great gameplay.

Sicily starts off with Carthage, Syracuse and Siculia.

>Germany occupied Poland in WW2, why didn't they instantly win the war just because Poland had some dumb allies?

Nah, I'll pay you a visit and I'm not leaving.

>Pol
Back to whatever you came from

That happened like 800 years later, what the fuck are you talking about.

Based and civilizedpilled.

How else am I going to LARP Alexander if I can't make it to the Indus and beyond?

alexander was such a fucking alpha
conquered all the way to india just to show off his sick ass horses to some chinese and then dipped out of this shitty mortal plane

Fuck off retardera

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>this is what gaulfags look like
youtube.com/watch?v=JJSq8qoudw8

It's a sensible place to end the map because everything else in the world besides China is an unknown at this point, basically. Even some tribes and countries that are actually on the map at this point are simply made up because there isn't enough information. Adding Southeast Asia, or more of the Steppes, or more of Africa would've just been silly, and the scope of China deserves its own entire expansion and is a bit isolated. Whereas India is right next door to Persia and kind of needs to be there for things to make sense.

>Alexander wants to pray in Tyre's temple
>Tyrians tell him to fuck off, kill his envoys
>Alexander decides terraforming is the only logical course of action
>Sacks their city 30k sold to slavery 8k killed

How can one man be so based?

DA ROOMANS

ugh... what could've been...

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it is the most interesting place for history
the second goes for Japan and China

(((Romano-)))Hebrew values

My only worry is that India will blob out of it's territory, which is not only disgusting borderwise, but disgusting just in general

Same if they added China, they'd curbstomp the entire west if not stopped by an also hilariously powerful India

>I'm working on the review for IGN

Did they finally had multi core support for their engine?

>still repeating this meme in 2019

wait... this isn't STILL the shitty fucking clauswitz engine is it?

it's not real?

Rome traded with India and China so much they were literally running out of silver. Trade networks and diplomacy in antiquity is actually a pretty fascinating thing.

massive amount of research into the heavy learning curve

can't wait for the inevitable converter to play my 2k+ year megacampaign

>Based
Epirus
Bactria
Armenia
Etrurians
Bosporus Kingdom
Pontus

>Not Based
Rome
Seleucid
Phrygia
Carthage
Maurya

Can Sarmatia form Poland?

>for every ethnicity
not even close
Norwegians are basically the same as they've ever been, likewise with the core areas of Germany. The Japanese have a direct continuity to when they arrived on their islands.
Certain areas are certainly subject to frequent population change, but it's not universal.

It won't be complete in the next year or two.

There will be an option to form the Great Lechina Empire?

>Was hype for converting CKII saves into EUIV
>The new Mission system in EUIv is so utter trash I refuse to touch the game
It's a shame, really.

Some are. The Welsh for example are descendants of the same Britons the Romans fought. Italy is give or take depending on the region and town in question. My family is from Naples and we're descendants of a French Crusader though so your point is taken.

my body is ready
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>expecting paradox to do any work beyond reskinning their last games
LOL
They're literally incapable of it, the entire studio is former modders, web developers, and social media managers

>The Welsh for example are descendants of the same Britons the Romans fought
No, they aren't
Welsh are germans rape babies

No, even ck2 supported multi core

how do I into CK2? Everytime I start it up I give up about 20 minutes in because theres just too many fucking options and I have no idea what any of it actually does.

personally I just fabricate claims and have to wait until I can buy mercs to fight and then hope my kid isnt retarded. beyond that I really dont know what else the game has to offer

Play in Ireland. It's called Noob Island for a reason.

>salty skirt-wearing wine-drinking m*diterraneanroaches

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fake, the found a new born cemetery.

10/10

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I want to fuck Hellen chan!

You're not Alexander!

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>Imperator is the perfect balance between character importance, politics and strategy.

that's CK2 Imperator is just a mana spam game.

You had gold in ck, so it was arbitrary mana spam too
And let's not even start with prestige and piety you needed to start wars

Hate mana
Love sliders
Simple as

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sliders are fucking awful
EU3 was shit

>another shallow GsG game with lack luster economy and political systems so the only goal of the game is to just paint the map with your country using death stacks of units because there is no combat depth on the map or actual battles

classic, how long are they going to get away with this for? not only do they produce 50 dlc packs for every game but every game is as lackluster as each other

I am ready to dismantle slavery with Spartacus.

>1x Respectfully Disagree

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user, I...
Even if a Civil War broke out or slave rebellion or whatever, you'd instantly lose if it won, and you can't play as them. Pretty retarded on Paradox's part. Probably just more shit for DLC

me on the left

For God's sake Johan, you incompetent fuck

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Just buy the base game and get creamapi from sketchy russian sites

If I buy any more Paradox games to sink my money into I'd scream. I'll just stick with Stellaris

CARTHAGE DELENDA EST

>Carthage
>Not based

>Believing blatant wartime propaganda
You can't be this stupid