Seriously WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?

0 cute girls.

Was that the greatest episode of The Simpsons ever made?

Dan motherfucking Fortesque! Just wish they straight up copied Smash Bros's game style since they gave him shit specials, which basically means some characters can kill better than others.

What the heck did Burns think sideburns are?

he's one of the least offensive choices on the entire roster though

who is inbetween donte and jak?

no, season 11 episode 5 is

I really wanted this game to be good but to many things just didn't come together for it. One of the few games I actually had buyer's remorse for.

Big Daddy from Bioshock

>>spike
>who

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Yeah Donte, Big Daddy, and MGR Raiden really are the playstation all stars

the team was already subject the whims of the devs of the franchises they were able to get, they were hardly in a position to make requests

this is one of the benefits of having someone like sakurai lead the project: he has connections with pretty much everyone

What about Massive Milady?

The mullet

Kat was in the game

Post more Kakeru.

He makes the most sense.

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kazuya, jin, or king all better choices

this

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Oh and it doesn't help that the PSABR team had a crap budget whereas Nintendo practically gives Sakurai giant cartoon bags of money on demand to make Smash games.

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>Spike Design from a game that never came out here

literally who/what

Lammy when?

Spike's Japanese name.

le SNEED maymay I'm so dank xD

The roster isn't horrible. The only really bad addition is Donte. Evil Cole is forgivable since all fighting games pull shit like that and I doubt he was there to replace anybody. The real problem is the obviously missing characters for a game called Playstation All-Stars.

Also, the game should have ripped off Smash Bros more, to be honest. Their attempt to be different for the sake of being different rather than just going with what they knew worked was ridiculous.

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RIP both of them

Its less the roster and more the art style and aesthetic. The game -looks- like a chink knock off. Like they took a bunch of premade assets and stuck them together. Nothing meshes

Smash tends to unify the roster in a consistent art style' so having isabelle next to ganondorf doesnt look as ridiculous as it sounds

it was at least considered at some point

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>they didnt go with this
what the fuck were they thinking
although they might want to tone down the size of kratos' head just a bit

PSASBR is the kind of game someone who thinks Smash Bros has no actual depth would make if they were trying to rip off Smash Bros.

The fact that the only way to get points was to build up a meter and then use a special finisher was what killed it. It just meant that everything you do is pointless until someone's meter is full. I don't remember if there were other modes but that's the only way I remember playing it.

Also, The character selection is fine. I had 3 guys I loved playing as. Daniel, Spike and Parappa

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>>spike
>who
fuck you

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I especially liked the scene that took place about 11 minutes into the episode.

who the fuck is neptune

the short answer is, they weren't thinking. They were just aping Nintendo

Alright where the fuck is Sneed's Feed and Seed?
youtube.com/watch?v=P20aiEGakN4

Good soundtrack though.
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Can you please not post this cute anime girl together with your horrible taste in music and video games?

i remember hearing they were gonna have dart from legend of the dragoon but decided not to, i'm still mad to this day

The only reason I came into this thread.

When I was at University I lived with somebody who genuinely considered PSASBR to be the greatest game of all time.

I'm convinced that to think that you don't just have to have bad taste, you have to be actively delusional.

What's with this sudden hateboner with Yea Forums over a trash FOTM anime character?

lol at the point where they threw fat princess in there they shouldve realized they didnt have enough characters to do this

Like a third of the reason i want Dante in Smash is for the lulz of Donte in PSBR and Dante in Smash

>two random boxes to make the roster look bigger

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they sound worse compared to their original versions
>parappa's stage theme isn't even from his game

they were fucked by the people who actually own the characters

they wanted actual dante but capcom refused. they wanted snake but konami refused. they wanted one cole that could change alignments but sucker punch refused. they wanted crash/spyro/literally any final fantasy character but they didn't have enough money\

meanwhile ken levine let them use bioshock for the price of a sandwhich, so the game is full of that shit even though at the time bioshock was objectively worse on sony consoles

tldr: no money and asshole rights holders. they did what they could with a bad situation

Reminder Dart and Abe were gonna be DLC but fuck you you get Zeus and Isaac

big daddy was a good choice

It got rushed so fucking hard too. I’m pretty sure it was supposed to have another 6 months of development before it got rushed out the door for holiday sales.

Zeus isn't really a bad addition, but Isaac didn't make any fucking sense.

>tldr: no money and asshole rights holders. they did what they could with a bad situation
Spare me.
Sony owns nothing important to them but they tried to make the game anyway without first checking if anyone would let them use iconic playstation characters. And especially fuck the notion that they did the best they could because the gameplay was dogshit anyway, which can't be blamed on copyright.

Is that Cole right next to Cole, or is it someone that just looks very much like him?

The same thing happened with this as with the PlayStation Classic. They saw Nintendo did it, realised they have a lot of good games and characters on their consoles, announced they were making it, then realised third-party developers weren't going to give them licenses for money so they'd need to rely on their own IPs.

It's good Cole and evil Cole. Seriously.

the original concept for cole was one character and your actions throughout the round would determine if he turned into good cole or evil cole but the infamous devs thought 2 characters would be better

They were probably right. I can't imagine the devs having the skill to pull that off.

i'm not talking about sony, I'm talking about the poor suckers sony expected to make a miracle

>And especially fuck the notion that they did the best they could because the gameplay was dogshit anyway
super only kills are a neat idea that makes projectiles and combos a lot more powerful than they are in smash without making the game "get touched once and lose" and they make the game focus more on frame traps. it's really bad if you just want to button mash but it's a decent enough idea. maybe if they had more than 6 months to make this game they could've ironed out the issues and made this actually a good game

Yeah, they are better Bioshock reps than Jack or Fontaine could be

>devil may cry
>but it's fucking donte
This roster almost couldn't be worse even if they tried.

Didn't even get Crash or Spyro
>But we have a literally who from Resistance and Donte

What WERE they thinking?

>his story rival was sackboy

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what do labor criseses have to do with rosters

Perfect roster
>Kratos
>Dante
>Crash
>Nathan Drake
>Ratchet
>Jak
>Sir Daniel
>Crash
>Spyro
>Bloodborne hunter
>Snake
>Cloud
>Aloy
>Dart
>Jill Valentine
>Heihaichi
>Sackboy
>Delsin Rowe
>Sly
>Spike
>Joker
>Joel
>Kat
>Wander
>Sora
>Rudy Roughknight
>Kazuma Kiryu
>Rikumaru
>Amaterasu
>Vibri
Yes, I know many of these characters are already in smash. This is just the best possible roster for playstation allstars

MY ICE CREAM CONE

PICK THAT UP, AND PAY FOR IT

I literally thought this was a photoshopped joke because I had never heard of this game before.

Just googled it and almost died

Where's Lammy, Robbit and Klonoa?

As I said, 0 cute girls.

Nigga you picked some of the worst songs.

youtube.com/watch?v=PDrw1ltiRHE
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Kat's model was just ruined in the game.

not even cloud or snake. you know, the characters that actually made playstation popular.

my first thought

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you know he was considered for smash

Suckerpunch pushed for it
The original idea was for Cole's moveset to change in game as the fight progresses depending on the player's actions

LOL FAT PRINCESS

Blunder of the century

Forgot them, add them in along with Alucard

I kinda like what they did with jak but he was way too fucking slow, and even after patches he's slow compared to how his movement is in the jak games. Also
>no crash
>dart and abe dlc cancelled
>loco roco scrapped during devolopment
>unified art style that actually looks unique compared to smash scrapped

Jesus christ, I get that Superbot wasnt the biggest, or most skilled studio but did Sony not help them at all? Did Sony seriously try to wing a fucking crossover game with a noname studio?

Because PlayStation from the very start has been always been reliant on 3rd parties because when Sony launched the PlayStation they didn't have a Mario or Sonic. So they went out to Namco and other companies and managed to pull them away from Nintendo. So when it came time to make a smash clone they realized uh oh we don't have any characters besides Sweetooth and Nathan. All the iconic "PlayStation games" aren't actually made by Sony but other companies. Licensing out 3rd party characters is expensive. This was meant to be a low budget game.

I honestly thought a Sony Smash Brothers could have worked at the time but in retrospect they don't have a deep enough roster of Sony-exclusive or at least heavily Sony-associated characters.

Even today I can't think of a way to deepen that roster other than by adding more characters from Jak, Ratchet, Uncharted, God of War, Twisted Metal, and Devil May Cry (also replace Donte with the real Dante).

Like, maybe Demi Fiend and Minato/Yu/Joker?

I would say Lara Croft.
Back when I got a PlayStation 1, its "mascots" were Lara Croft, Crash and Spyro.

PlayStation doesn't have any memorable characters post PS2 because they sold out to American AAA studios that are more obsessed with aping TLOU then making actual fun gameplay. The only reason the entire roster isn't quality Japanese icons is because they don't want you to realize this

the roster wasnt really the problem, the gameplay was hot fucking ass because they tried too hard to be different from the smash formula, and the super gimmick was trash

Should have ripped of a different game.

I stand by what I've always said, there was zero reason for this being a 2D platform fighter. I enjoyed it and I liked some ideas even if the execution wasn't perfect. But I think from the start the choice to be a 2D platform fighter was a bad one.

The reason it works for Smash is so many characters in Smash existed within that concept already. Mario, Samus, Kirby etc. are born and bred 2D characters so their movesets make logical sense and they're well represented in Smash.

Why is a Sony crossover, the company that started gaming in the generation that introduced and focused on 3D, and therefore the vast majority of the IPs involved are in 3D, a 2D platform fighter? Why isn't it a fucking arena fighter or something like Anarchy Reigns?

spike's redesign is so tragic that it's hilarious

Actiblizz, Squeenix and Konami owned nearly all the actual remaining PS1 icons, and we all know how fucking terrible they are to negotiate with. Especially for a backwater project Sony had no hope for anyways.

A Powerstone-esque 3D fighter would've been more appealing instead of being 2D like Smash.

2 words. SPLIT. SCREEN.

Turns out that copying what Sakurai does is hard, especially when you have no talent or passion behind it

I don't disagree but Heihachi is almost always Tekken's crossover guy

Also from what I hear Sakurai is incredibly well-connected so a lot of the deals for third-party characters were significantly helped by his personal connections.

And Tomb Raider, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Legacy of Kain, Resident Evil, Gex, Silent Hill, Parasite Eve, etc. Just stuff you zoomers probably are unfamiliar with, so I'll give you a pass.

>inb4 multiplats
Yes, each of which started life as Playstation and therefore associated with.

Rivals, slap city, and pm are all better games though

I can only recognize like 5 of them, how can you call a game "All stars" but fill it with literal whos.

And you still want them all in smash.

if sony ever takes another crack at a crossover, they must ensure the roster is actually fucking good. few franchises are as iconic as nintendo ones but they should at least eliminate the literally whos.
>crash
>spyro
>snake
>cloud
>kazuma
>jill
>alucard
>lara
>parappa
>spike
>kratos
>dante
>sly
>wander
>sora
>minato
>ratchet
>jak
>amaterasu
>the prince (katamari)
>sackboy
>cole
>the prince (pop)
>the hunter
>the sorceress
>kat
>etna
>rayman
>abe
>raziel

lol smash has better playstation characters than playstation

This is what happens when Playstation is 85% third-party, and Sony doesn't have a good first-party roster.

>>cole
>who
Jesus, I often forget just how forgettable PS characters are. I remember when faggots wouldn't shut up about Infamous saying you got to buy a PS for it, but now its not even remembered.

Sony's brand is more about the console than the games, so they technically manipulate their costumers to care less for their own properties.
>Most Sony fans' first PS console is always from the current or previous gen
>Sony barely advertises something like Gravity Rush
>Third party focus and shilling
>Shit like TLOU being trend focused
>Barely any care for the PS Mini or perserving their games for digital releases
They're basically if Konami and EA had a pass for every franchise they ruin.

>this roster
>etna
>kat
>snoy onionstation game
heh
hehehehehe

PSASBR being the way it was only damaged the image of PS characters even more, creating this rule that only they should be forgotten.
Otherwise, you have people telling you "Gravity Rush would succeed if it was on the Switch".
It doesn't matter what makes GR and TLOU different from each other or Wipeout and Jumping Flash, once you're a PlayStation exclusive both Sony fanboys and haters will forget you.

Cole is the guy from Gears of War right?

>costumers
?????

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Meant customers, fuck.

I wish there were another one.

that's the one you decided to complain about huh

That's a different Cole, I said the game if you actually are confused.

in this current state of sony whitewashing themselves and considering older games pointless?

The thing that pisses me off the most about this game is how god-awful ugly everything looked from the clashing characters models to the boring items and UI.

Look at the god damn CSS for example. Those tiny icons in two rows don’t make for what should be exciting –– picking your PLAYSTATION ALL STAR –– at all. It just feels generic and uninspired compared to the big, bright Smash Bros. CSS screens.

Well obviously Sakurai is well connected. He is fucking nintendo's right hand man. If a game developer got approached by Sakurai about Smash, you are sure as fuck they will be doing backflips to get their guy into the game.

Unless your Square enix of course

heh

Calm down autist

Oh right! I remember Cole! He was the main character in this game.

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Okay okay I get it, what other games are you going to post? I can think of LA Noir for one...

>Unless your Square enix of course
>1 character
>1 stage
>2 final fantasy songs and no more
>0 final fantasy spirits aside form cloud's own spirit
What the fuck Square Enix?
Joker is post launch DLC and there is already more Persona than Square Enix in the game.

>there is already more Persona than Square Enix in the game.
As it should be. Atlus games are what the modern JRPG connoisseur wants. Square Enix is still trying to recapture their PS1 days of being a big dog industry leader and failing miserably. Cloud should've just been removed from the game entirely after the embarrassment of FFXV.

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Some companies are just very, very protective of their IPs to the extent where it certainly doesn't benefit fans and arguably even hinders the company themselves. It's the same as companies who take down all Let's Plays of their games even though they're great marketing, because they follow copyright infringement rules to the letter.

That's not entirely true, there's seriously very bad choices on this roster, they've could get characters from another classic Playstation ips like Legend of Dragoon and Wild Arms, Abe from Oddworld was going to be in the game but was scrapped, and instead of Crash and Spyro(those two would have saved this game regardless from his quality) they decided to put in Dead Space and Bioshock characters, what the fuck were they thinking?

They were thinking "Sony didn't give us a fucking budget to make this game, and after having Naughty Dog ditch the project and having it dumped on our laps, we basically have 1 year to figure this out."

>psas2
>"our actually good characters are literally who's that fit more with nintendo, so let's get rid of any good choice that could offer some gameplay impact and add a bunch of realistic looking characters that play the same"

Dart was going to be DLC but Sony demanded that they add more GOW DLC before then so Zeus got in and Dart got put on hold and after that DLC came out Sony canned the project. His model was mostly done. Activision would not even talk about licensing Crash and Spyro, they were off the table completely. Isaac and Big Daddy were literally two of the best characters they could actually get so they got them instead of having literally no one.

>and arguably even hinders the company themselves
This is without a doubt the case here.
I mean it's like says. If you say Smash and think of "RPG", Final Fantasy won't be what springs to mind, but Persona.
Same with the music. Square Enix used to be lauded for their magnificent videogame music, but then they've got a meagre 2 tracks in the game whereas Castlevania has over 30.

Sony has no memorable characters or dedicated fanbases, so it's no surprise that their roster is full of literal who's

>Impliyng franchises like God of War and Ratchet & Clank don't have dedicated fanbases

Nigga you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

The second they realized that they couldn't get Crash Bandicoot was the second the project should have been scrapped. No Spyro, no Cloud, no Lara Croft, no Snake, no Raziel, no Dodge Viper... what WOULD have been the cutoff point? Would they have scrapped the project if the Fat Princess devs said no?

Like 90% of the masterpiece Sony titles from the golden age of Playstation were just third party titles that happened to be Playstation exclusive at the time, and Sony did not actually own the rights to. Thus to use them in a crossover such as All-Stars Battle Royale, even if it were thematically fitting (Crash, Spyro, Snake, Cloud) to a roster meant to represent Playstation's greatest, would require grossly outrageous licensing fees.

And that's a big no-no. Sony does have great first party characters that they own, but none that reach the heights of say, Mario. With Smash Bros, you have countless first and second party characters Nintendo owns the rights to that they can populate their roster with, that they don't need to pay licenses for, a handful of third parties exist, but unlike All-Stars they don't make the bulk of the roster. Who the fuck wants to play as DmC Dante? Or the guy from Starhawk?

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That's literally not how any of this works. They didn't decide when the project was over, Sony did, and Sony didn't give a fuck who said no. They were going to make the game no matter what, the only thing Sony cared about was the sales and they thought they could sell the game with Kratos and Nathan Drake.

>PlayStation Classic

Aka they just slapped an emulator on the system with a handfull of games that don't run as well?

They even used the heavily editied first Persona game

What should a potential sequel's roster look like?

For challenge, assume if a third party is already in Smash they absolutely can't get in PSABR2. No buts about it.

Also, reminder that companies treat their properties the way they do because they don't want to compete with their own shit.

They shoud have put Eternal Punishment instead of Revelations in the western release.

Sony barely pushes their own exclusives that aren't movieshit as if they want them to be forgettable.
Fucking Gravity Rush is from Silent Hill's director.
Arrogance is what kills PlayStation.

Crash, Spyro, Aloy, Knack, nuKratos, and maybe classic Dante this time.

Sony's fault that their most memorable Playstation characters aren't even ones they fucking own.
Cloud Strife, the face of JRPGs on Playstation consoles, and Snake, whose franchise had been closely intertwined with Playstation consoles, were in two Smash Bros games instead of this bullshit.

It doesn't matter. All models would be obscured by sunbeams.

The girl between Raiden and tekken man, isn't that the girl from Heavenly sword?

Yes.

>Tekken was exclusive*
>Also available arcade
>For a few Console Generations
>Released on GBA just a couple of years later

Is really the Snoy Fanbase only zoomers and fortnite kids? They don’t seem to know or care about gaming history.

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That's completely wrong you retard

You also forgot to mention it was made by a nobody studio who hadn't made a single game and only had a tiny bit of help from a bigger sony studio

Kat isn't even cute in her official game

Christ almighty

It was honestly kind of fun

Where the fuck is Gex???

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The dude is obviously doing it wrong but at least it looks like fun

I thought so too, but definitely not worth $40 on release.
Plus, like everyone else has said, the roster choices were strange

They were fucked from the beginning. All Stars was destined to fail.
>Sucker Punch demanded that Cole were made into two characters or he wouldn't be in the game at all
>Capcom told them to change Dante to Don't at the last minute
>Sony slashed their budget halfway through development
>Crash & Spyro weren't even an option because Activision was still in full dude bro mode
>Was originally supposed to be developed by Naughty Dog

You could remake this now and replace Ryu with Joker

I tried fixing the roster.

How did I do?

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>No Gex