There's no good reason for Sony (or Steam) playing thought police. Anti loli people tend to be REAL pedos, (neogaf admin) and should be put under suspicion.
Sony replaced games with movies, and now they even killed the niche weeb shit that was the last thing they were good for. Why is Sony joining the American "VIOLENCE GOOD, SEX BAD" philosophy?
There's no good reason to be posting headlines from One Angry Gamer.
Christian Jackson
STOP using FACTS and REASONING, you DAMN, DIRTY DANES
Christian Allen
He seems to be on my side when it comes to censorship so it doesnt really bother me.
Evan Diaz
>He seems to be on my side Lol, if i had a dollar for every time i've heard this line before here...
Robert Diaz
>Ban things that are factually proven to not be connected with problem >Import a group of hyper right-wing Muslims who commit literally almost all of the rape in your country despite being a tiny minority
>its a "inmortal/robot/vampire/monster/god/devil/1000yrold loli, so its ok" thread
Angel Nelson
>Why is Sony joining the American "VIOLENCE GOOD, SEX BAD" philosophy? because Sony's video game division is American now
Adam Davis
Why are Sony virgins so scared of animated breasts? Why don't they just have sex and get used to seeing them? They do realize that even Nintendo children are fine with seeing big asses, right?
How is this surprising? GTA didn't turn kids into psychopathic murderers. Loli isn't going to turn them into child molesters.
Elijah Thompson
If reasoning works they wouldn‘t be listening to the sjw in the first place.
Sebastian Adams
Never visited that site before, what's wrong with it?
Austin Lopez
It'js just a guy farming clicks from the anti-sjw crowd.
Nicholas Scott
but it MIGHT. it MIGHT and that's more than enough reason to remove these """people""" from your customer base.
Noah Hernandez
Extreme bias, anyone that gives a radically biased view regardless of where you lean shouldn't be listened to.
Jayden Cook
>japs >banning sexually arousing image or photograph What?
Zachary Bell
Meant to quote
Bentley Watson
there are 20 times more violent games than loli games shouldn't you remove them because "it MIGHT"?
Jayden Adams
and this was 6 years ago, imagine how much worse it is today.
Matthew Gomez
But we discuss kotaku, restera, and poligon content here. Just archive it like normal.
Tyler Cox
These aren't extremes. This doesn't make any sense in this context.
Jackson Hernandez
We shouldn't discuss any of it.
Charles Scott
Violence against adults is different. Adults report crimes against them and it's very hard to hide a murder. Children are dumb and get manipulated into pretending nothing is happening while their minds are getting broken from trauma.
Violent games can't have same negative effect as child rape games.
Charles Morris
>I didn't read shit tl;dr: japan (yes, a literal motherfucking japan) wants to push a murrican levels of prudish
>reeeeee I should be allowed to watch child porn, muh freedoms!
Parker Torres
That's projecting hard dude. Are you ok?
Wyatt Lewis
Who are you quoting, and what the fuck are you on about?
Carson Scott
blame EU, the uncoming olympic games and the ((()))
Jace Morris
where's your proof of all of this? I know you won't be able to find one
Luis Lewis
You're the one who has to prove that water is dry, I only state the known facts. Until then, violent games will stay legal while pedo fantasies will be kept in check.
Robert Stewart
>shouldn't be listened to Listen to them critically. Being able to extract the truth out of biased sources is an important skill today.
Jack Baker
you didn't remember when a literal horde of angry moms wanted to do the same thing fot the same reasons?
> child porn Where? All I see is totally normal, fictional fantasies that can't be compared to reality on any level but the most superficial.
David Jenkins
This has to be most dumb and insane logic I've ever seen in regards to this debate. You have my respect, at least you brought something new to the table.
Eli Rogers
> the known facts > there's one major loli study and it disproves you
You conservatives worship the status quo and refuse to admit error even as entire scientific society is against you. But now a single study is enough to destroy all the well known facts?
Connor Stewart
>bringing political shit into this nice deflect bro
Joseph King
There are no well-known facts in a "scientific society" until a study is done. I'm into loli and not children. If I cannot exist within the world as you understand it, then it is your understanding of the world that's flawed, not my existence.
Joseph Bell
What well known facts? What sources?
And liberals deny science at least a much as conservatives. If we're talking about "well know facts" how about about "a man is a man and not a woman" and "evolution did not stop at the neck."
Jordan Lewis
Unlimited Strawman Works.
Mason Price
it's really offensive to me that faggots think their disgusting kids are even comparable to blessed lolis
Ethan White
>likes loli >conservative uhhh
Owen Cruz
Right leaning libertarian more like.
Luke Sullivan
If i see any of you punks near my wife’s daughter i will show no mercy
Connor Harris
Nobody talked about libertarianism ITT you're just putting up strawmen everywhere
Connor Scott
Hey guys I cut myself when I was a kid, am I cool yet?
Matthew Phillips
>"Shooting in games leads to gun violence in real life! Ban violent video games!" >Game companies: "lolno fuck off"
>"Sexy women and lolis leads to sex crimes in real life! Ban sexual content!" >Game companies: "ROGER!"
??????????
Hudson Richardson
good,anime must go back to being a no normie zone.
Violence is primarily against men Sex crime is primarily against women Men hate men and love women
Carson Gutierrez
I have hundreds more loli, trap, shota dojishins, hentai games, pictures, 3d animation and hentai videos. I started ever since I was 14, so I guess I've been a "pedofile" for 5 years now. Ended up playing monster girl quest at that age too.
Back then video games were still niche among adults but now they have to appeal to all normalfags
Caleb Green
You know what's funny? That they started with violence and it didn't work so they moved to easiest target (because let's be honest most people do not really care about sexually suggestive games enough to oppose them being censored, and there is this weird notion that sex and sexuality is something to be ashamed of (unless you're a fag, in which case you should show your sexuality to the entire world)). And now that they have succeeded with freeing the world from "sexual violence caused by games", they have a precedent and can possibly re-visit the "Shooting in games leads to gun violence in real life! Ban violent video games!".
Anyway, I'm just going to watch from the sidelines as everything else goes to shit, because the games I loved were killed a long time ago by normalfags and companies pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Jayden Moore
Also never once have I found other people my age in school attractive, real life and digital are seperate things. Digital you can make it all fantasy and all good, but real life isn't.
Asher Moore
LMAO touhou fans can't even get laid by 8 year olds, incredible
Dylan Torres
>conservative out of nowhere Shit I'm not even american. Where's my green card?
Nolan Nguyen
>the games I loved were killed a long time ago by normalfags What would that be?
Brandon Carter
What software is this?
Nicholas Moore
you actually are though
James Hernandez
>only burgers can be conservative >when there are countries ruled by catholic church
Ryder Ward
>he has a different opinion from me >"h-he's pandering" lol
Owen Nelson
>thought police it's called the law
Brayden Smith
real time strategies, turn based strategies
Josiah Butler
>catholic church We're talking about loli, not shota
Daniel Butler
yes there is, there's MUCH worse things out there
Camden Young
>drawings have rights :)
John Parker
>it's very hard to hide a murder American McGee's sister was likely murdered, and they still haven't found or charged anybody, and they likely won't. Cases go unsolved all the time. Also, your logic is awful, since both crimes are perpetuated by adults, so the burden of responsibility lies on them to not act out on desires that result in illegal actions.
Jason Turner
>policing speech lmao retard
Robert Harris
yes, that's called the law
Cooper Wood
>conservatives defend loli lolwut
>libertarians >conservative holy fuck you're dumb
Robert Garcia
>the law is inherently moral and logical
Jose Jenkins
As much as we shit on Steam, they are a large and easy target for some faggot attorney general who's got an axe to grind. The VN industry would self-censor themselves overnight and for years on end if something were to happen
People get mad at Steam for justified caution because there's still no good self-publishing R18+ storefront for English japanese games. Fakku creating an electron app would be much better than what Steam can currently do in the current climate
Christian Baker
They do both They just go for shota because males are less likely to report molestation
Jose Reyes
It seems like you're forgetting about nuns
Charles Wood
actual NPC
Brayden Brown
doesn't matter one way or another. No one in reality gives a damn as long as you act like a normal person.
Nolan King
>never posts an archive link Why is shilling allowed again?
Jace Cook
Modern day Martin Luther.
Connor Evans
Shut up! It goes against my preconceptions, so it doesn't count.
Charles Gray
>total war series lives on >civ series lives on >no-no-no, no market for new rts, go play moba like good goy It doesn't make sense.
Jaxson Flores
I don't get why people would want eroge on steam. That said, I do wish actual eroge DL sites had an easier time with payment processors.
>Cases go unsolved all the time. >cherrypick Statistics mothafucka, do you speak it? >since both crimes are perpetuated by adults, so the burden of responsibility lies on them to not act out on desires that result in illegal actions What the fuck are you even trying to imply here? How is that meaningful in any way? >crime is done by criminals so we should drop all the behavior that prevents crime
Charles Cruz
At least there's that new command and conquer game coming, huh
Easton Powell
>literally a fucking infinitychan partial translation
Even if it wasn't, no one report or study is enough to build a consensus. Why is this such a hard concept? why do people see a single study and lurch at it as if it proves anything on it's own?
Elijah Hughes
why pay when you can download much easier and freely?
user you live on earth so you MIGHT be a pedophile too, we better throw you in jail
Lincoln Wilson
We need completely decentralized platform for eroge distribution.
Ayden Powell
>There's no good reason to be posting headlines from One Angry Gamer Why?
Grayson Robinson
this isn't about logic dude
Kayden Morris
It's a one man operation by a guy with no writing or journalistic skill whatsoever. He just reports reddit threads as news stories and shills it all here, it's grift as fuck
Brody Bell
In case this is a good faith question, part of the logic comes from the tendency people have to go for harder and harder porn when they get deep into porn. So eventually the people who have paedophilic tendencies will go through a pipeline of soft loli stuff to increasingly hardcore stuff leading to wanting to try it.
Jose Phillips
Gravity was once only a single theory.
Colton Watson
It's been proven time and time again that banning/limiting something just makes the problem worse.
France has some of the lowest alcohol-related crimes when it comes to drunk driving, aggravated assault under the influence etc. Because alcohol is a completely normal thing that children consume. How little they encounter cases of alcoholics in comparison to the rest of the world is crazy.
Joshua Sanders
Why do trannies and incels hate him much?
Dominic Gutierrez
For supporting the creator?
Camden Sanders
I don't mind steam banning "loli" content but there's no reason for them to ban the SFW versions of those games
Brody Foster
a counter voice to liberal gaming press establishment
Ayden Fisher
>the law In which country, Canada? Fuck off, every other country that isn't retarded hasn't loli banned.
I'll take "slippery slope fallacy" for $20. Logically, your argument would mean increased porn consumption, especially rape porn, would lead to an increase in rape. Except it doesn't and has never. It actually goes down.
Cooper Flores
A majority agree with him
Lucas Baker
seething pedo
Jace Cooper
nice slippery slope that never happens like this in reality
Evan Moore
>part of the logic comes from the tendency people have to go for harder and harder porn when they get deep into porn. And time and again it's been proven that normal sane people cannot be influenced to this degree by fictitious scenarios, it's an intellectually dishonest argument. It's like saying people into drawn guro/snuff are very likely to be murderers. I myself can't stand the sight of blood and pass out incredibly easy when it comes to the occasional Liveleak video, or even movie blood, yet I've fapped a few times to some guro images.
Landon Price
Well shit, guess I gotta explain to my nephew that he's a pedophile for having a girlfriend his age.
>the tendency people have to go for harder and harder porn when they get deep into porn. Does anybody who believes this have any first hand experience? Because I can tell you this is bullshit. If anything my tastes have grown more vanilla
David Gray
Why? Do you care about the company on a personal level?
Austin Adams
>the anti-sjw crowd. Isn’t that basically everyone?
Cooper Garcia
THIS H I S
Nicholas Walker
Yea Forums literally does not but rage at the sight of him lmao what the fuck are you talking about, destiny doesnt get as much hate despite being ten times the cancerous asshole
Jeremiah Cruz
>Anti loli people tend to be REAL pedos, (neogaf admin) no, they're child molesters. most pedos never molest kids (see: you)
Jacob Rodriguez
>can fap to loli/dangeroues loli porn >thinking about fucking real children makes me feel bad I could be a model priest.
Luis Davis
Reminder that India completely banned the consumption of porn and rape statistics skyrocketed within one year.
Joshua Hall
>Why is Sony joining the American "VIOLENCE GOOD, SEX BAD" philosophy? What alternate universe do you live in? Valve and Microsoft are American companies and the games released on their platform aren't censored.
Sony is a Japanese company, in case you've forgotten.
>thinking about fucking real children makes me feel bad oh trust me you'll get past this real soon
Jaxson Mitchell
not anymore
Blake Brown
except sony's american base is situated in California, a state of which the values directly allign with this policy
Lucas Brown
Been fapping to loli since 13, and I never did.
Jordan Johnson
Yet you feel aroused by children huh.
Liam Taylor
Do you want the company to continue producing games?
Robert Baker
>You conservatives worship the status quo and refuse to admit error even as entire scientific society is against you Is this another misrepresentation of so-called “climate science “?
Parker Smith
They're not. Mangagamer put all-ages Trinoline up yesterday
The "all-ages" games being banned are ones that were initially submitted as an adult title, but then were changed after realizing what was going on. Seems as though steam doesn't allow do-overs
Adrian Reed
>Rape statistics skyrocket after porn ban Korea and now India. Imagine the US following suit
Camden Roberts
Most Loki lovers are trannies, lefties, furries and fags. You typical lefties.
Nicholas Smith
I feel bad and disgusted at the same time, i just think``how cute´´ and nothing more like``shes gonna be hot when older´´. All the Mochi ones are good tier draw and plot.
Julian Sullivan
the mainstream left is literally anti biology what the fuck are you talking about did you just teleport in from 2003?
Jeremiah Cox
Not really. You could make a case that "almost everyone" just kind of doesn't care about twitter drama and thinks trannies are weirdos, but that's now oneangrygamer's audience. His pieces are for people who actively seek out SJW content to get mad about.
Ian Mitchell
>muh conservative >defends censorship this shit is too fucking consistent, the modern left is a joke
Nolan Edwards
lol lefties deny basic biology to push their tranny shit and baby killing industry.
Luke Morales
kill yourself
Dominic Wilson
>Imagine the US following suit can't fucking wait, they should do pilot run of this ban in California
t. non-USfag
Aiden Wilson
I do. But I rather having something for free than give out money if I don't have to.
Jordan Nguyen
>There's finally a study out that proves lolis don't lead to sexual assault
Fucking finally, I was always on the fence about this topic because I like waiting for evidence instead of making decisions based on pure gut instinct. I don't like censorship but at the same time I can't very well approve of something if that brings harm to real kids, though I always suspected they didn't do any harm because I've been playing violent video games for 20 years and I still haven't even punched anyone so far in my entire life so I always had the gut feeling that they probably really didn't do anything, glad to see it's confirmed tho. There is still the step of confirming if the study isn't bullshit, so I will go look into that now.
>suddenly a dozen posts about "MUH LEFT" from one IP yikes
Alexander Cook
What the fuck are you even rambling about?
Jonathan Fisher
Crime is done by people, which makes them criminals. It's the burden of the citizens to not commit crimes. Adults choose to commit a crime, and you can't excuse one form of fiction (excessive and unwarranted violence against adults) while saying the other isn't excusable (sexual depiction of fictional minors).
Nolan Roberts
How to confuse and anger the "drawings should be illegal" cuck.
>Fictional murder is no different from the real crime
Watch as he spins on the spot, trying to weave hypocritical and contradictory arguments about how such a repulsive snuffing of another person's being is totally acceptable and can be justified with imaginary scenarios, while having sex with a fictional being should land you in jail. They will conveniently ignore games like GTA where you murder innocent civilians and often given incentive to do so.
John Morales
Are you the same type of person who wants to ban guns
Evan Sullivan
>he didn't know about the porn circle user, there's a point where you go so deep that vanilla become desirable, hence the circle
nothing wrong with being aroued by anything, be it old people, children, toldlers. The universe doesn't dedicate whats wrong or right, its all opinions which everyone has different views. To put simple, people like you don't repect other views and like to shove their ideals on other people in the name of satifaction and ego
Austin Young
I'm going to ignore the other people whos entire position appears to be "HA, HA, YOU SAID A THING WHICH I READ IS A FALLACY SO THE POSITION IS BUNK!"
We have observed this pipeline before in people. "Mad Thad" literally went down it. Making that claim that "most people won't" is like when the Tobacco industry claimed that because not all smokers didn't get lung cancer, it had no effect.
Howard et al's experiments which lead to the catharsis theory is useful, but it's critically flawed to the point that we can't use it as a blunt tool. Zillmann and Bryant did another experiment that was more robust (more people, more kinds of people, and potentially importantly, more varied pornography) which did find both groups going towards more extreme stuff out of boredom. Again, not a blunt instrument, but it's useful. I could go on about the interesting experiments people have done on this for a while.
If you really care I recommend reading. "Handbook of Children, Culture, and Violence"
plz never link mombot again, her attempts to pass off as Japanese offend literally anyone that can speak it.
Daniel Nguyen
This is off-topic but has anyone ever gone so deep into the porn cicle they looped back to vanilla then back to degenerate shit again? Bascially what I'm asking is: Is it possible to NG+ the cicle? And if so, are NG++ and such possible ad infinitum?
Juan Cook
for what? not living in denial like you?
Eli Phillips
the UN is SUCH a fucking joke and to think this shit was nowhere to be seen on the news, it's pretty clear that selective reporting is taking place
Isaiah Lewis
Forms of mental illness are not that rare. We can't pretend that people with mental health issues are an extreme outlier when one in five adults experience mental illness.
Sebastian Turner
Every adult male should be required to be tested to see if they are aroused by children, and executed if so.
Jace Hughes
Bro the article that even that waste of life linked was from the fucking BBC.
Hey incels/pedophiles, let it go. Nobody is ever going to pander to you. Kill yourselves or find a new hobby. Literally nobody cares outside of Yea Forums
Parker Ortiz
let's me guess, you are supporting the ban, right?
Christopher Foster
Do you have any proof that this user is not japanese?
Tyler Davis
>he thinks it's actually about anime and loli and not just a pure power game on a low hanging fruit
Going by the ol' teapot analogy and the burden of proof yadda yadda wouldn't you just ASSUME that cartoon don't cause crimes until you have some kind of evidence that suggest they do? Why would you even fund a report to disprove something like this? It is in fact akin to setting out to disprove the existence of an orbital teapot.
Ian Roberts
I was gone through the circle at least thrice, but ussually I stuck with some shits that I particulary like inbetween
>Nobody is ever going to pander to you. >The first thing the internet does when a new cute cartoon/anime girl shows up is draw piles upon piles of porn
And this isn't even Japan only. See: The piles of western Peni Parker porn that came along with Spiderverse.
Also this. I can totally imagine someone doing it, and then making it a life goal to try and "right the wrong" they've done. Claiming that he as a 70 year old trying to help children is utterly invalidated by the fact that in his 20s he did fucked up shit (which don't get me wrong, he should face up for) is just an attempt to discredit the idea itself.
Just for starters the fact they seem to think some white guy that paid 2 grand to an American school to get a certificate is one of the "few remaining masters" of Shakuhachi.
Carson Barnes
No. Fuck off Dekinai-chan. All you faggots in this thread listen here. You can learn Japanese. This faggot over there is a bitch and doesn't want you to learn. But I'm saying YOU CAN learn. I believe in you. 頑張って
who buys VNs on consoles anyway, weren’t they censored to begin with? I’m pretty sure the parts where you have sex with chocolate and vanilla were already taken out of the console versions, so why buy them?
JUST GET A PC
Blake Davis
you'll get here soon as well
Grayson Russell
user the ENTIRE human genre are neotenic derivative branch of apes (AKA our long most realated ancestors fuck when they was children)
no amount of mental gymnastics produced by your warped and tangled personality is ever going to make your transgressions anything other than vile acts
kill yourself, the world will be a better place
Nolan Ramirez
IFI already said there wasn't going to be anything censored on the Switch and PC
Mason Baker
No, it's a >it's fictional it's not real thread. Resetera and old conservatives have this in common, they can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.
Eli Reyes
So the overwhelming majority then? Somebody post THAT study already.