>old game good, new game bad ..is stupid. The only true history of gaming: >quality accelerating throughout the decades of the 20th century >slight steps back in adjusting to 3D at the turn of the century (most apparent in the visuals and in many genres dying out) >quality accelerates once more in the 00s with devs now unlocking the potential of 3D, probably the peak of the medium in terms of sheer average quality >massive casual influx to the medium in 2007 with the Wii but growing only slowly since then. this means average quality can never match the that of the early 00s but peak quality is even greater whenever a hardcore project ends up with the greater funding now afforded >nothing has changed since 07
Take any great old game, and you can probably find a better game nowadays in the same genre, especially if the old game is 20th century.
The lengths zoomers will go to deal with their weird insecurities never ceases to amaze me
John Gray
Now: Everything is a never ending open world live service grind.
James Butler
Boomers are retarded. They literally only like old dogshit with bad gameplay. If you bring up that most old boomer games have terrible gameplay, you get retarded arguments like "SOUL SOULESS".
Joshua Young
But zoomers wouldn't be able to substantiate like I did, they only have access to the nostalgia, since no one tends to bring up the negatives only boomers remember. The nostalgic boomers will recall only the rose-tinted memories, while the realistic boomers will be too busy having fun with the new stuff to care to dwell on the bad aspects of the old.
Only 6 of the 20 top selling games in the US 2018 market (who I would guess would like it more than Japan at least, perhaps EU too) were open-worlds, and only one of them has been associated with grinding (and not in regards to live services), a stereotype I even disagree with for that one game. And this is just the top sellers, not to speak of everything else. Open-worlds are actually very expensive to make, so they tend to be less in quantity than other genres, it's an under-represented genre in the indie market for example. Your nostalgic bias is showing, hard.
Not all boomers have the nostalgic bias. And having a bias against games simply because they are old is almost as bad. Many classics have still not been topped, and are worth going back to. There's even a market for it in terms of remasters, backwards-compatibility, etc.
Parker Nelson
Where did the stereotype that zoomers love nice graphics come from? All the popular F2P games that zoomers love look hideous.
Asher Davis
accelerating backwards, yeah
Joshua Russell
OLD GAME GOOD. NEW GAME BAD.
Luke Martin
I think you missed the point. Your "substantiation" which actually just asserting more nonsense is your weird zoomer cope.
Joseph Powell
NEW GAME GOOD OLD GAME BAD
Jeremiah Watson
Please tell me you're not a boomer trying to be new and hip. >look kids I'm still cool and with it
Christian Thomas
>How do you do fellow children?
Hudson White
So the era of Wolfenstein 3D is better than the era of Deus Ex?
Kevin Hughes
"nonsense" is more than you have provided.
Nathan Nguyen
>be filthy Skyrim normie >play Morrowind because Yea Forums shills it so much >it literally blows my mind Fucking hell man, that character creation, it's so much fun. Too bad I'm too much of a kiddie to handle the graphics of Arena and Daggerfall, I heard a lot of coll shit about them.
Levi Cox
Not an argument kiddo, and I'm sorry you're upset because you need validation from gamers my age, but nostalgia can't account for every opinion contrary to yours.
Jack Young
very interesting how people became hyper aware of the concept of nostalgia at the start of this decade just in time for video games (and the culture at large) to become genuinely shit so that their concerns could be dismissed as a longing for an idealised past that never existed when in fact it's entirely rational to prefer a superior material environment to an inferior one
at every point in history there have always been some people saying things like "this next generation sucks/things were better in my day" but in our generation is the only one where *everyone* comes equipped with this observation as a rhetorical tool, why would our generation need that tool for anything other than cope?
Logan Anderson
I think the internet has done more harm than good to console games
Jordan Watson
Console games fucking sucked before the internet though. Arcade games were superior.
Luis Phillips
Agreed also games are suffering from severe diminishing returns wrt to technology. Voice acting doesn't seem 10x better now than it did 10 years ago but the file sizes are 10x larger and this means that you spend hours downloading a game before playing for no real reason.
Photorealistic/high fidelity graphics are prohibitively expensive and often hurt the game as the amount of detail is overwhelming. It's common to hear people say they feel bad about rushing through the game and not paying attention to all the environmental details.
Progress (not just sjw stuff) is the ideology of our times and it needs serious scrutiny.
>Voice acting doesn't seem 10x better now than it did 10 years ago Lies. Witcher 3, GTA, Final Fantasy all have way better VA now and those were some of the best at the time. Not to speak of smaller budget projects. >but the file sizes are 10x larger and this means that you spend hours downloading a game before playing for no real reason. Petty.
>Photorealistic/high fidelity graphics are prohibitively expensive and often hurt the game as the amount of detail is overwhelming. It's common to hear people say they feel bad about rushing through the game and not paying attention to all the environmental details. Petty. Just don't rush then, or just embrace the excess.
Speedrunning is the opposite extreme to casualness. They also debase the games they play but instead through dispelling the magic behind them, rather than merely through ignorance and inability like casuals do.
