So I think it's a good time to talk about why all this outrage over the Sony Censorship (and to a lesser extent the Epic Games Store) is entirely pointless and toothless in the long run. You see, on here, we are a small vocal minority of people who get upset at these issues, and look larger than we actually are. But in reality, we are just 1% of people and the remaining 99% don't give a flying fuck about the censorship. Infact, most welcome it because those anime titty games were off putting and bombed in general. Did you know that Senran Kagura sold only like 20k copies on average in Japan right? That's why they did this, because 20'000 is just a piss in the ocean compared to heavy hitters like Last of Us and God of War. So they decided it was worth the reputation hit if it would avoid pissing off the remaining 99%. They are very happy with this let me assure you. And the PS5 will break records and I bet a good chunk of you will cave in and buy it anyway despite this. Just like those who claimed to boycott Metro Exodus but bought it from Epic anyway, and the same who will buy Borderlands 3 and The Outer Worlds when that comes out. And also, Nintendo won't save these games. They will still bomb and Nintendo need more western devs to survive in this day and age.
So in closing. Sony did the right thing, and vocal minorities always lose.
Screencap this when BL3 breaks records and Epic reveal how many copies it sold.
Aiden Cox
It's really hard to get people to really around censorship when the censored games in question are bad. Series like Atelier fall within the same realm of low quality titles and the last 3 games were all terrible including the recent Return to Arland one. Sophie and Firris were at least tolerable but then they made everything too tedious and boring for the next 3 games with no redeeming aspects. These games can't retain their audience. Now granted all the atelier games have not been censored, but even if they were I don't think anyone would really care in the long run. These games need more competent developers than anything else.
And I wouldn't really want people to call the switch "Vita 2.0" as handhelds are viewed as a side event. People who say the switch is the spiritual successor to the Vita probably never owned a Vita much like the people who kept calling the Wii-U the successor to the Dreamcast or Dreamcast 2.0. If Nintendo wants to seriously compete with Sony in the west, then they need to bring back western devs who can appeal to western audiences by making exclusives. The reason why the n64 is viewed so fondly in the west as the last good nintendo system was because of Rare. You may get people to say the gamecube was good but outside of Paper Mario nearly everything was a step down from the n64. Until Nintendo makes a powerhouse system again it really can't compete in the same areas that sony has influence over or has carried. In order for a console to do triple digits you need America to be fully onboard and with the PS5 announcement it looks like Sony is continuing the success that the PS4 had.
At most the censorship policy is slightly concerning but it's nothing major, once the next big release rolls around people won't think twice.
Adam Nelson
>Epic reveal how many copies it sold Too bad they never give any numbers or source to back it up.
Cooper Reed
Microsoft should pull a E3 Sony and say they won't censor their devs. I bet you it would turn a ton of people around.
Ian Martin
Newsflash, no it won't.
David Rogers
Anime tiddies are only the beginning. The line must be drawn here.
Andrew Walker
>Just roll over and accept censorship Fucking kill yourself. As someone who lives in a totalitarian shithole where everything "not fit for society" is removed, you are a fucking cancer in a land that has given you great freedoms. You don't know how good you have it, so you squander it because "it's just video games." It always starts with the most menial shit.
Michael James
It's okay when Muslims do it
Samuel Lee
You never know
Easton White
i cant wait until sony bans pedoshit, wont have to deal with weebs anymore
Joseph Anderson
What country is that?
Owen Phillips
playing lolis games != pedos do you know IRL who been caught as the real pedos?
I look forward to your flavor of the month FPS games being reduced to robots shooting laser beams after mass shooting #9629268 and watching you wonder how that happened to you.
Isaiah Richardson
Because Nintendo don't censor them as harshly, and leave it up to the ESRB.
They also stopped censoring third party games but still play it safe with first party games.
Anthony Sullivan
UK, seven-years-ago. Not like that place is any better these days.
Jose Fisher
Nobody will buy TOW because nobody cares about linear games anymore. If you are not making open world or multiplayer games, might as well find a job in another industry.
>Outside of Paper Mario This dude. Eternal Darkness, F-Zero GX and REmake were worth the price of admission alone.
Christopher Brooks
I know user, I've tried explaining this to them over and over again. You can't falter even on the most ridiculous shit because once you make it acceptable to censor things based entirely on whether or not they're considered distasteful to mainstream society you start down a track to authoritarian hell.
It always starts with the stupid shit that most people would feel embarrassed defending because the people who want this KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL FEEL AWKWARD DEFENDING IT AND SO THEY KNOW THEY CAN USE THAT TO GAIN TRACTION BEFORE CENSORING OTHER THINGS.
Daniel Brown
pedo
Hudson Rodriguez
Why is Yea Forums so fucking shit? I can't tell anymore if there are people that unironically think like OP in here, or it's just bait.
Andrew Howard
>get free replies literally every time you say "have sex," "incel," or "pedo" What the fuck do you think?
John Watson
Again look at all "look at the other guys" bollocks. Who the actual fuck plays loli games apart from people with a sexual interest in them? I know in your head you think thats ok because they aren't real user, but in the real world, normal people take a ZERO TOLERANCE aproach to the sexual depiction of minors be it real or animated. There is no irony or jest as far as regular people are concerned. All they see is a red fucki g flag that someone has interests that put young people at risk. There is no "argument" to be had here. ZERO tolerance.
Jackson Jenkins
Yea Forums is loooooong dead
Nowadays it's just make believe
Austin Cooper
Yeah, fuck those pedo games like Devil May Cry 5.
Ayden Gonzalez
So yeah, this board is shit and it's fucking dead, thanks.
Jayden Parker
Yea Forums has been full of SJW retards, especially mods, since 2013. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
Joking about this shit always leads to idiots copying you because they think it's a good stance. Stop pretending to be retarded.
/x/ joked about a flat Earth and now look where we are.
Eli Ward
DMC5 "censorship" got removed so that one doesn't work.
Justin Ramirez
Okay, sit comfortably behind freedom of expression laws, bot a problem, but dont get mad when people point and say "look at that fucking nonce, wishing his drawing were real."
David Hall
>Nintendo need more western devs to survive in this day and age.
Nobody needs more western devs. Western devs haven't made a single good game since 1998. Fuck every game company that's not from Japan.
Ayden Ward
Give me the receipt that correlate lolis in games will bring more gamers into pedophilia (same a gun in games will bring more gamers into serial murderer).
David Cook
Literally EVERYONE is attracted to children. Some people, especially world leaders, think that by being seen tackling sexual exploitation of cartoon children makes them look good or even helps hide the fact they fuck child slaves in secret. And we all know the liberal tactic of creating an enemy where there was never one so you can be the hero in a made up story. What really matters is if a child is harmed, stop obsessing over the fact that people like something different to you.
As in what? You wante to show you convicted criminals that had a fuck ton of Hentai found along side their real shit?
Asher Sanchez
They still censored it. That's a hard fact. They showed that absolutely nothing is safe. Sony and Playstation games will be inferior versions of games as standard practice. No rational person has any reason to ever buy a Playstation or Playstation games.
Kayden Barnes
Im surprised that people still bother, these people will never learn.
>same a gun in games will bring more gamers into serial murderer
There are a lot of shooting clearly directly or indirectly inspired by video gaming (Columbine, Brevik, New Zealand). if playing violent games can lead you to murder people, why wouldn't an anime game turn you to rape children?
However, gamers and gaming industry are extremely reculant to blame video games for murders but they're happy to point out loli games will make you fuck kids. I don't know why.
>We You stick out like a sore fucking thumb astroturfer. Answer me this if videogames are art then why are they being censored?
Elijah Thomas
>retards think slippery slope is "just a fallacy"
This, slippery slopes happen all the fucking time and are caused by the fact that evil people don't disclose their true goals until those goals are within reach. They want to censor everything. They want to control how people think. They want to control what you are allowed to see and feel. They're not going to admit it until they already have that control. Then the denial turns into gloating overnight.
James Anderson
>vocal minorities always lose #metoo
Aiden Diaz
i only want to be friends with other degenerates so its fine
It's bait, Yea Forums loves to shitpost contrarian opinions. That being said it usually comes with a nugget of truth, they're mimicking people who DO legitimately exist, but very few if any of those types come here, they think we're nazis even though Yea Forums is tamer than it's ever been and is pretty good for representing both sides of a taboo topic these days. OP is just trying to trigger people though, acting like all is lost and hope is worthless, very in line with some of the black-pill mentality of some of the boards here.
He's kinda right though, I've been peeking into other places reaction to this, and a lot of them are constantly bringing up the "loli" aspect despite the sony titles very rarely having actual loli in them, and absolutely none of them are actually porography, just games with lewd scenes but never full on nudity (people seem to forget even porn in Japan is censored). None of them seem to realise these things and just take the news outlets hit pieces at face value, senran is a good example, none of the girls look anything near underage but because of a cultural difference with them not all being 18 they can technically put "underage" in the news headlines for clicks and it's really getting people into a froth over it and now supporting the censorship, even though these were harmless and they were even fascinated by senran previously, just the other day peach ball got announced for the west and the same place condemning the lewd sony games were having a laugh about what they thought was discussing pedo bait a month or two back. And that's the thing, no one gives a shit about this until sony made the move and prompted news outlets to report on it, it was it's own little niche off in the corner doing no harm and then sony just dragged them out and publicly executed them just to virtue signal to people who until a stance was brought into light, didn't give a shit until it became a good opportunity for them to virtue signal too.
Cameron Morales
As biased as this interview was >if you start thinking creations of the mind can influence people's behavior Is a stupid thing to say because of course creations influence people's behavior. To what extent is debatable of course but come on, we see people base their entire lifestyles on fucking Star Wars.
Not to mention, preaching certain messages to certain people is indeed seen as immoral at best. An episode of Sesame Street is going to get some major flak if it starts talking about fucking Chemtrails or something.
Andrew Moore
desu i'm waiting for when they actually start to crack down on pokeporn on tumblr/twitter might start seeing some resistance if that happens
Blake Ramirez
>You can't view this content because it sexualises fictional people who happen to be underage! >So what about this content where I vividly dissect someone with a butcher's knife? >No no that's fine, it's not real This always tickles me because it sends censorfaggots into an absolute autistic loop where they try and justify murder.
>ll they see is a red fucki g flag that someone has interests that put young people at risk you said that before. All I want is where the receipt?. Talk is cheap, show me the real scientific study by reliable third party, not based SIE higher up personal opinion.
James Robinson
>its okay because lots of people have started doing it
Also there is a difference between watching an anime that has a character that is a kid and searching out hentai comics with the specific intent of showing them fucking
Daniel White
>we see people base their entire lifestyles on fucking Star Wars
now the Soi Overlord is an edge case and he shouldn't account for the average though
Austin Howard
It's retarded to begin with because anyone thinking in terms of legal age of consent towards cartoons is a fucking lost cause. You'd think there are enough real problems in the world for people to get angry at, but people are still compelled to make problems out of nothing for something to do.
Josiah Ross
He didn't say that those creations don't influence people. He said the creations shouldn't be held responsible for it, but the people that got influenced.
John Hernandez
It's always furries trying to shame other people to make themselves not look like freaks.
Isaac Brooks
Again its about kids. I dont care about your studies. Common sense tells me its fucking degenrate and i know most people will agree.
Landon Ortiz
murderers are better than pedos
Logan Roberts
It is always the furries that are doing this
>drawing / enjoying art of non existing human characters makes you a pedo >drawing / enjoying art of animals does not make you a zoophile / animal abuser
Still not a moral act in the slightest, and you're justifying their disgusting work through media.
Benjamin Williams
and senran kagura has, what, 1 loli character and the rest are passably adults, but that's not stopping you from crying pedophilia
Chase Butler
>gets completely shutdown and retreats into a delusional thought loop
fucking kek
Ayden Evans
One thing I know is the loudest voices always tend to be the guiltiest. Yes, people aren't down with loli hentai but also tend to have not a lot to say on the matter. It's those who go on the offensive we should look at more closely, they're the ones who have something to hide most of the time.
Brayden Sanchez
yes if it has children it's pedophilia you retard
Charles Cooper
then you literally projecting your personal virtue to be taken by all gaystation user.
Tyler Lee
Mostly (you) fishing
Evan Hill
ESRB don't censor games, they are an independent rgames rating agency. They rate the games as they are.
Jose King
>immediately resorts to just shouting PEDO PEDO PEDO PEDO rather than actually trying any real form of debate kek
Henry Watson
>Implying he isn't the tourist here You have to go back, you're not fooling anyone who has actually been around for longer than three years.
Jack Sanders
children don't have size E breasts
Michael Scott
I fucking hate how people always try to preempt the "1000 year old dragon" shit when it is actually a fucking legit argument. It's not fucking real. I can draw a woman and call it a fucking man for christ sake, it's fucking art, it's whatever I will it to be. Shit's ridiculous man, just when we were maybe getting over this shit a bunch of people gotta build a new ideology about sexualising women, it's literally the same shit from the 80s they were fighting against 10 years ago or whatever but worded differently. Fucking puritans man, just because it's not motivated by religion now but some weird idea that people grow up to be rapists if they see cartoon boobs, that's what the religious nuts thought, you just removed the religious part.
Lucas Morris
Has america ever done anything positive for video games or are they only going to destroy it further?
>go put a video game like doom on a tv screen in front of people >some might say "wew thats violent huh" >put porn on tv in front of people >most will say "hey thats inapropriate, ehat are you doing kids might see" >put loli hentai on a tv in front of people >literally EVERYONE will say "YO WTF BRO THIS IS SOME PEDO SHIT IM CALLING THE FUCKING COPS PEDO MOTHERFUCKER SOME ONE GRAB THAT GUY NOW. CALL THE COPS NOW."
Try to deny thats how that goes down.
Jonathan Smith
Welcome to the internet
>these replies are from the hero academia bath scene episode where we see the girls semi-naked for like 3 seconds
This, they're usually overcompensating out of a sense of guilt. Generally if someone feels really guilty about doing something they consider wrong they'll try to make up for it while keeping it a secret, the most obvious way to do that is to aggressively go after other people who do the same thing they feel guilty about doing.
Christopher Reyes
>She's not real, it's a drawing >B-BUT SHE'S UNDERAGE Woah fuck guys, guess I'm going to jail.
>trannies push pedophilia >b-but I'm not a tranny!!! go dialate mentally ill freak
Luis Williams
>none of the girls look anything near underage Bro.... Also keep in mind it's not just a matter of characters looking underaged but also being underaged as well.
You have to admit, there is some pedo/ephebophllic tendency that is involved with drawing super sexy characters to be played with and groped and sexified in your new sexy fap game and then SPECIFICALLY making the judgment call of >And now we'll make all of their ages.....BELOW EIGHTEEN
Cause if you think that these games would be ruined or less sexy if the characters weren't in highschool then you might not be entirely right.
>woah i only shot the guy, stop projecting your anti-gun "ethics" on me, its fine. I cant believe you hate freedom.
Daniel Hill
all porn should be illegal and pedos and pornographers executed
Adrian Martinez
>racemixing GOOD >gays & the rest GOOD >trans 12 years olds GOOD >taking a female when she can reproduce as a wife with agreement from family BAD >men not marring 35 year old used up husks BAD
Wyatt Turner
it's like people never seen a petite woman either, that "loli" character is 16 which isn't unreasonable at all people forget senran kagura doesn't even have any full frontal nudity or sex either so its not like it's some loli getting fucked on screen it's pretty damn removed from what these puritans seem to think it is but they're all so ignorant yet opinionated on it
But once again, we do have regulations in place to scrutinized people who would attempt to use their work to exploit or spread a bad message. It's why we're all so against propaganda after all. Obviously there's fault on the people who fall for it but the person who made it with the express purpose of hoping someone would see and do something bad is at fault as well.
Brayden Phillips
Did you know that lolicon is the third most common tag in nhentai?
>Loli hentai What we discussed here is not even Hentai game, Senran kagura is not hentai game, hentai game cannot been released in consoles
Lincoln Powell
To be blunt, I would argue that from a physical perspective, 15/16 year old girls aren't children any more than 18 year old girls are. As girls are usually done with puberty by around that age.
Psychologically and socially now, that's a different issue as I would say that 15/16 year old girls are vulnerable to manipulation and abuse by fully developed adults but from a purely physical perspective I wouldn't consider that to be an age where it's wrong to find them attractive.
Weeb pedos are just pedos who were fortunate enough to be taught that actual CP is going to get them fucked up big time, in life.
You're still pedos though, so kys you degenerates
Evan Gonzalez
In most of those cases that age of consent comes with a big asterisk about being within X years of the person or are attached to a Romeo and Juliet clause (if you were already dating before one party turned 18 the age of consent is lowered to avoid forcing couples to split because one is technically underage and the other is no longer technically underage).
Jose Parker
Honestly, the UK has an annoying culture and even here the age of consent is 16. It really must be such a crime to sexualise drawings of people who can have sex in a leading first world country.
Owen Cooper
>you cant add in about a related subject
Its clear to you that people were also by extension talking about hentai stop being retarded. Also if your titty game has naked kiddo in it, thats porn on a lower spectrum as far as im concerned.
Henry Walker
She underage still.
Bentley Myers
Age of consent in most 1st world countries is 16 and these games don't even have sex or full frontal nudity. I can fuck a real life 16 year old but if I look at a cartoon I'm a sick pedophile? Did people forget pedophiles like prepubescent people and none of these characters are that?
Ian Jones
The courage to lick an elementary schooler's erotic body!
>don't bother being upset at censorship because it's just shit like senran kagura getting hit right now Fuck off you know they're not going to stop here so why let them have anything?
This. Note how they very likely need to keep their tastes a secret from everyone despite it not being illeagal, meanwhile i never need to hide from my friends that i like vintage 80's porn or redheads or facial genres.
> the rest are passably adults I wouldn't go THAT far. Most of the characters are dressed in highschool uniforms and have almost none of the facial features an adult would have. I really don't think most of the character were designed to look like adults. And no big boobs doesn't make you look like an adult as we've already established, girls finish growing at around 15.
Henry Rivera
Correct. Zero tolerance, there will be no pity for nonces. Glad you understand this.
Nolan Price
just report these mentally ill freaks
Blake Johnson
Hachikuji wishes she was that sexy.
Luke Butler
Rather than that, it's more about perceived abuse depending on the context, any figure of authority or person that can influence or manipulate the youngster in any way is a big no-no.
Funfact: Vatican City has an age of consent of 14 years old.
Carter Wilson
>drawings >Underage
How can you put an age for a drawing? Your logic is flawed because pic related is a loli but based on your logic she isn't underage because she is 500+ years old.
So is it only underage characters that they can't show in sexually explicit situations? Because if that's the case it really doesn't bother me. If it messes with games like Senran Kagura and games like it, can't they just do that thing where they change their ages to "18" when everyone really knows that they're under that?
Jace Turner
solve your own child trafficking problems first you stupid brit
Jason Lee
>cp is bad >drawn cp is just as bad >murder is bad >drawn scuff is just as bad that was sooo easy to debunk, anyone who likes BDSM literally can't argue against cartoon lolis lmfao
why do you lie on the internet? it's a fact that trannies try to push pedophila now go dialate your flesh wound
Jacob Thomas
They've not just been censoring loli they've been censoring any sexualisation of women if it's some kind of anime game. Pro-censorship shitheads keep deflecting to the loli part of the argument though because it's the only foot they have to stand on. Reminder that even if you hate loli, these changes are coming with the general censorship of any sexuality in adult oriented media, and it wont just stop here, the goal with internet politics isn't to compromise, no one ever wants to compromise, they want to dominate, so this will keep going and you'll only have yourselves to blame, I personally think it's disgusting you're willing to sell yourselves out to attack fucking cartoons when there's real ass fucking problems with explotation of minors in other industries yet y'all only give a fuck about what Japan is up to but whatever I guess, this is the world we live in.
Michael Diaz
Imagine living in a country where drawings are illegal.
You mean the ones who were caught and are being punished?
Aiden Murphy
They have something against boobs, it's not just about underage characters. By the way, nice b8.
David Mitchell
They say "clearly underaged" so presumably the "just change the number" excuse won't work if the rest of the game doesn't quite back that up as well as the design.
Henry Ramirez
Based Sony. Even more reason to consider PlayStation the best console. Valve is also getting based AF by censoring and banning incel weebshit from their platform.
