Is it good now

is it good now

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it was good from the start if you are not autistic and do clean installs yearly

nope

always was
it was free too

you w7 fucks are going to cry so hard now that it’s not free and Microsoft abandoned w7
enjoy your buggy outdated hole-filled mess

>Now that it's not free

I got it for free just a few days ago with the media creation tool or whatever the fuck it's called. The interface is fucking AIDS, but I can use DirectX12 now so whatever.

It functions fine, the UI elements are just hilariously inconsistent

It's free if you download it for "making apps"

LTSC is fine.

also the search bar is fucked

you can't even search mouse to get mouse settings, you just get a rando app from the store.

I guess I'm going to be a "programmer" now

why lie?

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>it was good from the start
1803/1809 and the current version all have major memory management issues that causes W10 to start hammering your swapfile.

>0063 - Mario's Mighty Moustache
>0064 - Luigi's Mighty Moustache

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Confused me too, turns out they're the name of 3DS themes I downloaded to install on CFW.
Also didn't know what Mouseports.jpg was, turns out it's an asset for that Paladins game.

/g/fags are the most NPC of NPCs

Installing Hyper V was a mistake because now I can't get it to uninstall and it fucked up my virtualization settings. CPU supports it per the specs from intel, Windows says it's enabled, but the inspector from Intel says it's disabled and that the CPU doesn't support it and that's fucking gay. I also can't enable it either even though Windows says it's enabled

Only ltsc.

Yes. The improved performance and DirectX 12 are great. Wanna/g/e fags will spam you with
>MUH BOTNET
>MUH AUTO-UPDATES
but the reality is that if you have ever used a Microsoft OS while connected to the internet, anyone who is/was interested in your data has it.

>Muh DirectX 12
Have sex you incel cucks.

Windows 10 is trash.
It's a shitty reskin build on top of windows 7 with a shitty app store and filled with telemetrics which can't be fully turned of by default.
The LTSB version is much, much better, but it's still trash.
Not to mention the fucking incompatibility with slower hardware.
All PC's with an HDD with windows 10 installed that I've seen have had major disk usage problems.
Windows 7 is a much better OS, if only for the sheer fact that you can rice the fuck out of it.
Linux is still the best, however.

>Linux is still the best, however.
It has no support for anything and barely plays games, and you have to have autism to use it. How is it better

as there been any word on whether the big "gaming" update in May is going to do anything about the forced vsync and triple buffering in windowed mode that means that you're not allowed to play any game outside of exclusive fullscreen for any reason at any time ever?

w10 literally has worse performance than 7, and dx12 is getting ported (not that it's anything more than a meme)

Eh, you can play a lot of your steam library by enabling an experimental feature (proton for all) and just fucking clicking on it nowadays, valve is funding the development of WINE so I'd expect it to be the whole thing one of these days.

best OS if you play vidya. but remove the bloat before using it

it's still worthless shit that's only worthwhile on vm's to pirate microsoft releases

>liked windows 10 for a while
>in the last 6 months they have made no one to escape updates
>can't disable them in options
>can't disable them from registry
>doing so in registry does nothing
>force fully shutting down by disconnecting the power still allows updates to go through on startup
>newest flash update breaks games launchers
>has fucked with MPC
>has caused older windows titles to not get past launch screens
It's fucking infuriating how you aren't allowed to opt out of updates anymore.

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Fuck forced updates. I still use version from 2017 that I cracked myself disabling all windows services in gpedit, bios and msconfig

>enjoy your buggy outdated hole-filled mess

I will continue to do so, I havent installed a service pack in 4 years and have had no problems.

>finally decide to get windows 10
>every time I boot my PC up it says windows can't start in the bios screen but lets me start it anyway

this was a fantastic idea

I don't use spyware.

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You shouldn't use spyware either.

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It's still malware that spies on you, profiles you and sells your data.
And you cannot stop that. Not even with any amount of host file IP blocking or registry editing or whatever else you do.

You CANNOT remove the shit that comes with W10.

So... no?

Technically you can, it just requires a lot of IP blocking.

>It's still malware that spies on you, profiles you and sells your data.
And you get nothing in return!

People should ask themselves why it is that they got Windows 10 for free.
The age old rule still applies: If you get something for free, it's because you are the product the company is making money with.

One Fritz figured out a way to make it work, here you go winteach.de/windows-clients/windows-update-dauerhaft-deaktivieren/
Pretty complicated and already hidden by Google to page 8 or something

1709 is fine

windows didn't exist in 1709 you asshat

The romans already used glass windows you plebeian

Can't you just use LTSB to avoid updates?

If you disable updates anyway, why even use W10 over say W7 Ultimate?

The ONE argument for W10 would be to have the latest updates.
Take that away and your benefit of using W10 malware over based W7 is... what exactly?

Just install GNU/Linux
90% of Steam games are already running well on Linux distros
Just look here protondb.com/

Apart from the hideous start-menu, windows 10 is better. nigga just use a custom shell

It could be worse. Just block updates, they're constantly breaking shit and revamping things to make them worse.

Being able to play games if you made a mistake upgrading your win 7 or if you like the design of 10 more.
If you disable all the malware it's just a better win 7.

How is it a better Win 7?
What's better about it? Cortana? DX12 meme that basically no game uses?

It was always a shit normified OS full of social media bullshit, tracking, and all kinds of useless bullshit apps intended for phones.

>implying you can "clean" install Windows 10

This fucking piece of shit comes with something like 10 preinstalled piece of shit games and all kinds of tracking and other retarded features that would be considered flat out spyware just a decade ago. There is no "clean" install of this fucking turd.

The proper way to use a computer in 2018 onwards is to use Windows only for video game piracy, and using Linux Mint for everything else.

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Incoming list of things that won't matter to you

Most likely

*exfiltrates all your personal metadata*

Hehe nothing personal, user

Don't matter next pc will be 10 and i died a little inside...

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>windows 10 is better
how
what's it do that 7 don't?

It always has been, the question you should be asking is:

>Does it still have spyware?

The answer is yes.

Nothing 10 is just forced at this point

It comes with barebones, half-assed features you need third-party programs for 7 :^)

Ill never stop using windows 7.

I know that eventually I'll probably have no choice but to use W10, but I'm pushing it as far into the future as possible. Still on W7 Ultimate and still happy.

I guess once I build a new PC I'll make the switch though I don't really want to. I'm just hoping the more time that passes the more things people were able to turn off and disable so by the time I have to use it I can actually remove 99% of shit.

What I use it most for - host management.

It still amazes me how many people happily install spyware...having said that people put alexa in thier houses so..

Even if you could block it all (you can't) your new hardware these days is all bugged and backdoored anyway.

Blows my mind.
The fuck do you even need that shit for? Are you really so lazy you can't turn off the light yourself?

>by the time I have to use it I can actually remove 99% of shit
They add layers upon layers of shit in every new build of w10. We're at the point they leave GPOs in but make them broken on purpose, see: Bing searches on Start Menu with 1809, if you disabled that shit through GPO, it will be back with no warning, you have to manually change some reg keys to actually disable it now. It's an unwinnable battle. Either switch to Linux, get a fucking Mac, or deal with it.

But honestly, who the fuck uses bing on purpose? I wouldn't be surprised if 99.9% of activity on Bing is people using it accidentally through broken features of Windows 10 or to download Firefox after a new install.

>or to download Firefox after a new install

What's funny is that if you search firefox on Bing the first result will be Opera Browser, then Firefox. Everything from Microsoft is absolute cursed shit.

I heard it's got a comparatively good image search after google nuked theirs.

NO
I had to move to w10 because hardware upgrade.
IF you dont have to, then dont fucking do it.
Simple

I was always good

Bing is good for searching porn and with the google image search fucked I often use bing's to find different sizes of the same image

I presume that W7 will hold for another 5-6 years. There will be something better in that time, right?

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But now I can play music by talking to a machine for 10 seconds instead of clicking on it in 0.2 seconds. Get with the times grandpa.

Good luck last month I built my new riff and unfortunately had to install Windows 10 took me about 2 hours to stop it from spying on me forcing me to use bing or other shit programs, completely destroying Cortana, and getting the app bullshit removed. It now looks and works like windows 7

If they keep it up for that long it'll just become another OS X. They'll cave long before they lose their monopoly.

Imagine being THIS wrong.

Win7 fags are just the hardcore XP fags who refused to switch to Win7 because they though it's as bad as Vista

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That time is better spent configuring your Linux install.

I don't remember people complaining with 7 as much as 10 though.

Why lie?
The first Opera result is at the bottom of the first page for me

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Vista was good, it's just ramlets of the time who found it to be slow. I liked the interface more than 7 with its retarded Mac Os style grouping into icons. Thank the gods they still let you disable that shit and use small taskbar with no grouping like in Vista.

>Vista was good
well that's a word sequence I never thought I'd see

I hope you are aware that while you may have disabled some things, there's tons of telemetry and spying shit you were not able to remove and probably never will.

You literally cannot get rid of all the bs.

its never going to be good until microsoft gets their head out of their ass and removes all the bloatware & spyware bullshit from it
>ads on the start menu
>slow ass search
>forced updates every single fucking day
>spyware up the ass
>"but dude dx12 even though like 4 games in total that support it and it doesnt do shit"

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Enjoy your shit performance in vidya, also no photoshop, sony vegas or any other good software on linux and don't tell me about the "alternatives" they're all shit.

Now do that in MS Edge without an abdlocker, shill.

because the only reason there were "XPfags" to begin with was because vista sucked, and XP was not vista. 7 was welcomed with open arms for not being fucking vista. And allowing you to download more RAM. While not being Vista. Like XP taking off after mistake edition.

This.
>no windows store
>no forced updates
>no candy crush
>cortana is disabled and half broken if you enable it due to missing pieces
>doesn't even include a web browser, audio player or photo viewer by default

What is the meaning of this?

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>no windows store
into the trash

How do you get the Windows LTSC/whatever it's called non-spyware edtiion without some shady russian stuff?

>ad

It's alright and pretty convenient, a bit bloated though but next update should let us uninstall more things. Moreover you've got a whole list of thing to disable for privacy sake or the illusion of it, although portable stuff like OOSU10 will just do it for you. Honestly I'ld have a hard time going to win7 these days.
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This is Yea Forums, the worldwide contrarian centrum. People here will tell you that F76 is good.

>dude just download our new update and we'll let you disable all the spyware things we built so deep into it no one was able to remove it all! no problem we're happy to oblige! :)

It's great. Made me install Mint linux, so best Windows ever. I still use it for some day to day stuff but I can go entire weeks if I'm not feeling in the mood for MS' bs.

Also made me upgrade my shitty years old budget dualcore laptop to linux and it's actually usable now, it could barely do browsing in Win7 at the time and upgrading to 10 with the "accessibility program" loophope that lasted till Dec 31st 2017 (well it's not entirely a loophole I was in hospital and I did use the magnifying glass tool at least once, don't revoke my shit MS) just made it even more unusable. With linux it's actually speedy af despite being Lenovo's most toaster of laptops.

you can find win10 pro keys online for $5

You can force install it yourself if you want to play Win10 games that use it, I did it for Forza. Works perfect and only downloads and updates what you tell it to, unlike the Store in normal Win10 versions that has to download seven different updates for the fucking calculator every time you reboot.

It's not Win7, but if you have to use 10, it's your best option. I'd still recommend keeping it installed on an entirely separate hard drive and never running both at once, though.

You can download it straight from Microsoft's backend, IIRC.

You'll have option to disable more apps directly from the UI. Like..
3D viewer.
Calculator.
Calendar.
Groove Music.
Mail.
Movies & TV.
Paint 3D.
Snip & Sketch.
Sticky Notes.
Voice Recorder.

pureinfotech.com/windows-10-1903-19h1-april-2019-update-features/

>only 5 dollars to get everything you do tracked, spied on, uploaded, sold as profiles and datamined
What a deal!

Are those keys still linked to the one cpu and motherboard and can I use it my whole life on multiple computers?

When are they gonna add tabs for explorer? I heard about that feature in the experimental build

I got mine for $3
I upgraded my PC and reinstalled win a few times over the years and all I had to do is log into my MS account to get it automatically activated

>or
In a year user..
notebookcheck.net/File-Explorer-to-get-Fluent-Design-revamp-with-Windows-10-April-2020-update.415092.0.html
Sounds good, although I've been using warez windows since 2k3 and never had an issue.

>In a year user..
better late than never, this is probably the most important thing they should have added years ago

No, just switch to linux until win7 support ends.
Until then, most of the Proton and Wine shit will be improved.

Is Windows 10 still the only was to do DirectX 11? I saw Cuphead was going to require it for future updates and I hope that doesn't mean I need Windows 10 just for that.

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if you have a smartphone its spying on you 100x more than windows 10

I'd install Linux distro, if i was willing to repartition my HDD or buy a new one.
You could wait for ReactOS to reach toleratable state.

>everyone else doing it makes it ok!

Windows 10 was shipped with dx12, although a stripped version of dx12 is now available on windows 7 as well. Moreover dx11 is available on Vista..

It really was after SP1. Launch was flawed and there were some growing pains with the drastic (but necessary) kernal changes. I was not a ramlet so poor people computer specs were not a problem for me.

>after SP1
so when 7 was already out

>windowed mode is constantly creeping to the left by a few pixels
>nobody ever mentions it

IT'S SO FRUSTRATING

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year before release.

>he doesn't use 8.1 with classic shell
Very surprised more people don't use it. It has the smallest footprint of the windows OSs and more support for hardware than 7. I've never had any issue with it.

*SP2

It was always good. Do not listen to /g/. They are the most tech illiterate board here.

not him but why should I be bothered about the leftover telemetry when my smartphone is giving them more data anyway? it doesn't make it better but it makes it meaningless to avoid

So your smartphone can read the contents of your harddrives and generally see what you do on your PC?

I just grabbed a HDD and installed Win10 so I could upgrade all my keys and then put my Win7 SSD back in again 7 days ago. Jesus christ Win10 is 110% cancer. It was obviously designed by someone who hates the customers.

The UI in win10 is great, you're just too old to learn something slightly new.

no but to my knowledge that information is not being sent out (I can see the network traffic)? can you provide a source saying that happens? how does encryption effect this?

It's just so unfinished as well. They introduced a night mode that gives windows dark themes but it doesn't do it on all the windows so you randomly open white windows here and there. I just installed linux on my laptop and the dark mode made every window dark no problem.

Get LGBT version (use SVF.ISO.CONVERTER to download it) or switch to Linux.

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It's dead, Jim.
Casuals are on Android and iOS.
People like us jump to Linux at the first opportunity.
Microsoft lost the desktop by forgetting Windows was a desktop OS.

Never will be

>Meanwhile 100% of games are still made with windows in mind
ok

You mean consoles

Because he is right. The search is inconsistent as fuck, sometimes works sometimes doesnt. There are tons of posts about it.

Windows 11 when?

How many modern games run on linux?

>no windows store
But the store is the ONE reason to put up with Win10 because some games will be held hostage there. There is no other reason to get Win10 whatsoever.

Read the fucking thread before posting, user.

>spyware
it's not going to kill your cat. they want to sell you relevant shit rather than a ps3 when you have a ps4. it's superior

>Only trash games actually run well
Oh wow dude
At least I will REALLY have shown microsoft by not using their OS haha

>People actually believe there is a Windows version that does not spy on them
How are you this stupid, it doesn't matter which version you are using.

is it not cracked or something?

none of them really do. You can disable everything, setup rules in PFsense etc. But if you look with wireshark nothing stands out there either. Do they default to some excessive data collection? sure, do they still collect some data? sure. But people make it out like someone at microsoft is screengrabbing you and checking out what porn you watch.

Post proof

arguments like this is why the world's so shit

>it's not as bad as this ridiculous hyperbole, so it's fine

>lnux
I run Ar h on my headless server (I ssh into it), but I'd be a retard to run leenucks on my vidya rig.

I've wasted way too many hours, it's not worth it.
Also, Microsoft aren't the bad guys any more.
The good goys at Google are.

>it was free too
It still is. The "upgrade" program flopped so hard MS is continuing it to this day.
I have like 3 or 4 legal Win10 licenses and use none of them.

I seriously hope the Win7 people will move to a different OS once support ends, though.

And what, prey tell, is wrong with the diagnostic information collected with telemetry set to security? or even just to basic?

Works for me, but I know I've definitely had some inconsistencies in the past with other searches.
Too bad DX12 is also AIDS, compared to based Vulkan.

>if it's not updated it's broken
this is what you sound like

yes. rolling security updates are actually really important for any device exposed to the internet.

I'm fine using manjaro with proton and lutris, thank you.

ZERO reasons. Windows store is literal cancer and anyone that buys anything from there is mental.

Im never updating to W10

I know I know, people said the same about XP, but this time W10 is actually pure cancer and literally a worse OS than W7.

Ill just stop PC gaming, or finally make a move to a different OS entirely.

>not using LTSC
Lmao.

Halo collection is coming out on Steam, or just pirate the damn games user... This isn't reddit, you won't be judged for it.

Why would you people to get the heavily outdated LTSB when LTSC exists?
In fact your own screenshot is that of LTSC.

Windows will always be spyware that's also constantly trying to control how you use it and that maintains a certain autonomy in regards of what it lets you do.
It's best that you accept that and use it for the things you can't do on linux, while using linux as your main system.
Trying to hack windows into something it can't be is a futile and pointless fight. At best you can try to virtualize it and contain it, but we're not quite there yet on the user experience side of things.

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>I AM A RETARD, YOU HEAR ME! DO YOU HEAR ME! I. AM. A. RETAAAAAARD!

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I had to upgrade because I bought a motherboard that didn't have USB drivers for Win7.

almost had to do this to but downloaded a fix, ryzen runs really well with win7.

>Why would you people to get the heavily outdated LTSB when LTSC exists?
What is there that worth even wasting time to install it? Fucking GPU load tab in task manager?

Well thats good for you user, you keep yelling about how you're a retard.

>1809 update was such a disaster it made headlines by itself
>microsoft's panic fixes for it just kept breaking different stuff
Yeah sure, it's fine now, it's the best time to upgrade :)

I run GlassWire and WireShark and the amount of connection attempts to Microsoft servers is disgusting. Unironically install Gentoo faggots.

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>In fact your own screenshot is that of LTSC.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm using.

Anyway, apparently SVF.ISO.CONVERTER is dead, have fun downloading it from russian torrent tracker.