Final Fantasy XIV SHADOWBRINGERS

Ascian's are the true heroes.

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Ronso women when?

Entire fucking game is just ascian pawns, that's why I stopped giving a shit about the lore in like arr. it's boring

In the trash where they belong.

>never ever
NEVER EVER

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Sure, Sure....
HOWEVER
What is a better tank, warrior paladin

I hope so

GUB is

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You can play Bless for that.
They are remaking it again in fact.

dark knight

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>bless
That one actually hurts...

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3

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Bless Unleashed? I thought that was a single player spin off. What the fuck.

Eh. I guess.
I don't like the fact that pantera doesn't have fangs or i don't remember that you could put fangs on them.

good bye ninja, murdered by monk and sam faggots being too good, I'll just drop the game now

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It's an MMO, but also an XBone exclusive...

RIP in peace NIN. You had a good run being in every raid group since 2.4.

No. Is a MMO for the Xbone.
Even Bamco is onboard this time.

Fake n gay, unused icons are greyed and have a red X

how braindead is shd going to be

dumb enough that you can play it lol
i'm just being rude online i don't actually mean it, please do not be mad at me

I'll rape your asspussy

I'm playing a potato DRK and you can't stop me. I might even occasionally post a picture of my character just so you autistic fuckers shit yourself even harder.

Is it worth it to get into the game when the expansion drops or is it too late?

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Maybe and no.

>spoiler
you wouldnt dare...

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return to the walking sands

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id get into it now, give time to catch up

Post something new, otherwise you just photoshopped icons considering gone skills have red X.

>being a useless damagelet
Nah, thanks.

why would they remove hide when sb finally made it useful

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I'm gonna be a ronso healslut!

I already hate shadowbringers

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>no ala mhiggers and weeb shits
It's already better than SB

Lies. Hating things would require putting forth effort into something.

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>risk of rain 2 thread
>everybody's open to playing with each other and having a good time

>ffxiv thread
>nobody wants to play with each other and almost everybody in the thread despises each other

i would love to play with someone but i'm a newfag and would no doubt be bullied for my healer performance

fags are so delusional thinking a super hobo tree lover would be a twink shota

if they ruin nin i'm gone
or i'll switch to sam like all the shitters did in sb
but even then..
never playing monk because I hate it

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that design is godawful too. fucking griffith knockoff

If this is true, they are removing every source of MP regen.
>Aetherflow
>Lucid Dreaming
>Riot Blade
>Refresh
The MP changes are going to be pretty big, and make or break class design.

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Does ROG get any more interesting once it becomes NIN? I'm literally just pressing two buttons for every encounter and it's a drag.

i see people from primal play with each other time to time, im assuming the people from aether keep quiet because of well known reasons

what sever

Trick attack is the thing that's ruining NIN. Who the fuck enjoys being TA and LB3 bot.

malboro

Why exactly are people giving any credence to these random greyed out skill icons?

how good are you at remember various combinations of button presses?

sure i wouldn't mind playing with you if you need some help

>play with each other
>in ff14
what can people actually do? mutually do the single player story next to each other? do the weekly locked endgame content that discourages you from doing it multiple times (its unlocked now but you get the point)? do one singular daily dungeon together?

risk of rain is a multiplayer game, ff14 is single player its that simple

every job is 2 buttons until 40-50

There is not much else to speculate until may.

nothing else to talk about until the big class changes liveletter, and also most of them make sense

Remember when DRG was only 1 button.
Good times.

>how good are you at remember various combinations of button presses?
Pretty good I guess. That's basically every other job,

Is this suppose to be a mockery? lmao

losing hide would also ruin it for me
walking hidden is fun... and it refreshes mudra
and a rogue quest needs it
and its the best thing about nin in pvp

If it's not blufever ignore these leaks remember when 4.0 was about to drop and someone posted DRK getting a self heal?

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Having party members for premades is very useful at least, especially if you're new.

take a look at this then

ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Ninja

I know they're fake because I've been happy with pretty much every one.

Might get this game now
I-I'm not a Furry

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Redpill me on Mr. Happy

>and its the best thing about nin in pvp
*was
Old Hide in pvp was 1000x more fun than this garbage. But that's not saying much since pvp as a whole is pretty much garbage too.

what anime is the slunt in the corner from?

yep

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i dont get the red head stripper girl

Okay I lied
Cool glamours tho

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it's really not that bad it comes naturally after a little bit of practice just remember that hyoton is absolutely useless

what with the smn?

Actual bullshit, we know oaths are staying in, although their use is changing, confirmed at JP fanfest.

Summon Phoenix

0-4 sleep
5-9 do nothing until 6 am

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Sleep tight, user-pupper

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It's Dancer

the funny part about dancer is that it might as well be Assassin from maple story.
>CHAKRAMS WONT BE YOUR ONLY WEAPON.
>PLEASE DONT BE MAD.

I miss maplestory bros....

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rias gremory from high school dxd

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how the fuck are people like this allowed to play but SE literally bans you for minor swear words lmao

Was this teased anywhere or just speculation?

Would you support the noble cause of procreation of Hrothgar and let a buff Lost feline Mpreg you?

The joke is that you've been playing the game you hate so much for 2+ years at least

Imagine being asspained enough over relic content that you make this image while also ignoring the Ultimates that were released in this same time frame

Sad state of affairs but in the end it's for the best. Look at the amount of autism in these threads, slapping an identity on them and putting them in a scenario where they have to work together is a powder keg.

Die.

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The joke still isn't over. There will be another Diadem/Eureka in Shillniggers.

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>r/ffxiv has entered the chat
Also disliking a part of a game =/= hating the whole game.

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>forgetting that Ultimate just built upon a good thing and that Eureka ate so much resources that there was no other content to do outside of raiding
Don't get me wrong, Ultimates were great but had Eureka not have been a thing you bet your ass we would have seen more Ultimates with a more spread out variety of content than we do now. They've honestly just are fully disconnected with the community and their own game given they've failed to realize the encounter nature of the combat system as opposed to straight trash grinds. They've yet to learn it seems as they're pushing onto a 3rd iteration of Diadem/Eureka which will more than likely ignore the few good aspects like Eureka did to Diadem.

>you bet your ass we would have seen more Ultimates with a more spread out variety of content than we do now
No.

This. How have they not realized that an old school MMO style grind plain does not work with XIV's combat system?
At least grinding in XI doesn't give me fucking carpal tunnel.

>Sign in after having some lunch
>forgot I was in Ul'Dah for that gay XV quest
>immediately have my chat spammed with shouts about futas

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What shitty servers are you guys playing on?

>had Eureka not have been a thing you bet your ass we would have seen more Ultimates with a more spread out variety of content than we do now.
No. Open the credits somtimes, there's like 20 combat designers in this team, but they're not all doing raid content probably because they can't, I guarantee you some intern is scripting Eureka enemies while only most experienced people can even attempt to tackle Ultimate which takes more effort to design. Your view of gamemaking is childish to say the least, armchair at best, like you see it as a liquid with equal properties that you can just pour into whatever glass you want but that's not how anything in real life works, fucking hell, and that's ignoring that active pop has been consistently increating every Eureka patch, not decreasing, but whatever, I don't like Eureka so delete it from the game, right? Fucking brainlets.

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>no
Guess you're right, they are too lazy that they keep using the code and servers as excuses without putting any effort to fix it. People will keep paying for expansions and praising them.
I feel like they want to invoke that nostalgic feeling of playing with friends, shouting for parties and grouping to do content and rather than finding a way to work this into the new modern game setup they rather port old game philosophies without changing a thing. At the same time it shows some disconnect not only with their players but with their own damn game.

>Forced to go to Ul'dah for whatever reason
>Chat immediately gets filled with autism
I just have to wait until Tuesday, and then the pain is over.
I rolled on Mateus shortly before it became a Balmung colony. Now I'm stuck here.

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Mateus. Which isn't that bad outside of the Quicksand. It's fairly populated and most of the people I meet are pretty chill. The cringey RP scene is a lot more subdued than people think.

>I guarantee you some intern is scripting Eureka enemies
They literally port over existing trash enemies from past dungeons and the overworld, give them a bit of an HP push and done. The artists recoloring them probably do more work than that.
>that's ignoring that active pop has been consistently increating every Eureka patch
Why must you lie user? You do realize the active population doing Eureka has gone down with every new part introduced. Hell when Hydatos released only 11% of people could even do the damn thing, more than certain the BA clear numbers are lower than most of all Savage tiers.

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>West in charge of playing the fucking game at all

those chicken nuggs look really good tho

Jesus RP is so cringe.

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you can move off for free for a limited time when they kick balmung and mateus (and some dead servers) over to the new dc
escape before it's too late

>RDM on Rez duty in the last one.

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Would you want to play with anybody here after you've seen these threads?

imagine complaining about this phrase in the one singular thread topic where it would be justified to say

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it's almost like it was made by a /vg/ faggot who got assmad over being told to fuck off.

i will not imagine it, and you cannot make me

>No. Open the credits somtimes, there's like 20 combat designers in this team, but they're not all doing raid content probably because they can'
They talked about during Ultimate Ultima panel during Vegas fanfest. They have only 3 raid designers who are capable of doing ultimates, the guy who made uwu now working on Eden.

At least I'll be able to take advantage of mb prices that aren't cactuar's.

That's exactly what I've said. The point is however, none of those raid designers worked on Eureka because they have other staff for less mechanically involved content.

Under the assumption Redsixte's not full of shit, all the prunes have been a random slew of oGCDs (ie Thrill of Battle), borderline useless abilities like BLM's Freeze, anything to do with cross-class MP regen, and now oddly two core abilities for NIN. I'm enjoying the broader implications of so many changes to base classes and what that will do via ripple-effect for the jobs.

Maybe "Sword Oath in its current use"? Or literally removing Sword Oath for some other name and icon.

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obsessing over the /vg/ threads isn't justified anywhere user

>Under the assumption Redsixte's not full of shit
Are you serious nigga
I can whip up pictures like that in mspaint in 5 minutes

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Top tier taste.

"The assumption", m80. He's as credible as Mr.Happy and we won't know if he's full of shit until ShB proper.

i prefer ignoring the /vg/ threads but it's not possible when they bring their garbage here

>Main Tank and Off Tanks defined
>Main tanks no longer have a DPS stance
>Off Tanks no longer have a tank stance mitigation, healing or health bonus. Just aggro bonus.
Screencap this

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>removing Barrage
For what purpose?

Less buttons, me no like lots buttons press.

They cant unless they completely redo the majority of ROG/NIN job quests

>Finally get FC to do endgame content with.
>Bunch of people I've known long ago, haven't really talked to much in the last few years.
>Turns out I hate playing with them because they're a bunch of unfunny retards.
>Get mad when I call something gay as fuck since we have a legit gay person playing with us.
>Have to listen to political memes constantly.
>People faux-bicker over dumb shit for giggles, get each other killed for it.
>Can't leave because despite all that, they still tell me they love playing with me and stick around because I'm pretty cheery and get all the shit organized for them.

I'm completely torn on what to do, I'm glad their happy but it's making me miserable. I just want to go back to a time when I didn't have to watch what I say every minute and ruffle feathers when I joke about something that goes against the grain. Even innocuous shit like posting this wonderful merchant makes people upset.

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Any girls on Mateus need a quick pump?

that shit generates a ton of aggro, so i guess it is tanking as it works in xiv

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Can anyone sum up all of the Redsixte supposed "leaks"? I just saw the one earlier but I assume there has been more?

I know they are probably bullshit but I would just like to see what ideas are being thought up, even if they are trolling.

So does that mean that DRK and War would become off tanks? while GBK becomes a new main tank ?

You sound like an autist with zero self control and your so called friends sound like a bunch of dumb normalfags.

He picks out random skills, greys them out, and posts them on Yea Forums.

Hindsight is 20/20, but, and I tell this to people again and again, you make your own FC, your own static, your own shit. Otherwise, you fall in line like a good sheep.

>they're not funny
>le happy merchant is funny
maybe you just have shit taste in memes

hide deserves to be removed

stealth is a garbage, half assed mechanic that is pointless in this game. it barely gets the job done for gatherers, but its useless for combat classes because of how shoddy the detection system is. they slapped it on rogue because they were riding some sort of WoW copying high

DRK and WAR are main tanks. PLD is the offtank so 99% chance of GNB being another offtank

Or the off tanks won't have a tank stance and their dps stance makes them take more damage.

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>Lionmen are for Bunnygirl (male)
Fixed

Sounds like you're a complete cancer friend. Excise yourself

>The niggas without the shields are the main tanks.

That doesn't make any sense.

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But hide is useful for NIN now.

imagine having this limited imagination

Fake and gay, you should have stopped after the first, it was the most believable.

My favorite was how much rage a fedora meme caused after someone cracked jokes about religious people for 20 minutes. Went from fun and games to actual anger in the span of 30 seconds and then the voice chat went near silent for the rest of the run.

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I don't think they can do that because of DF. DF ruins a lot of potential job variety already, so permanently separating main/off-tank roles doesn't seem possible. If the changes were that drastic, players would be fucked if they had no main-tanks in their group. I think their intent was to purposely give two tanks a few more DPS abilities and the other two a few more defensive cooldowns. They all still perform the same, in the end, but it's more optimal for Savage content to pre-form a group with one of each.

But again, their intent probably won't match the outcome. I would not be surprised if Savage groups optimized around having two Off-tanks anyway. It's a balance scenario you just can't win.

His photoshops are the removal of MP regen abilities for a lot of jobs, removal of all cross-class MP regen skills and aggro-management skills, trimming the fat on some jobs (ie removing Freeze with BLM), popular-demand for some jobs like removing Wildfire from MCH and Dark Arts from DRK, and now questionable stuff like removing Hide and Trick Attack from NIN (Hide less so, all it is to NIN is a free ninjutsu cast when out of combat)

PLD are offtanks because they have unmatched party mitigation in the role: Cover, Divine Veil, Intervention, Passage of Arms, etc whereas WAR and DRK have more self centered kits except for the blackest night and shake it off

sounds like you're playing with literal plebbitors

hide resetting ninjutsu really seems like a temporary thing that they never bothered to change
assuming the leaks are accurate there's probably another way to refresh mudras, or they'll fuck around with how huton works or something

Replaced with Rapid Fire as equivalent ability, please look forward to it

We will see the thing is that a lot of NIN quest require the hide skill.
So who knows.

Sword oath is greyd out though. Most likely PLD and DRK will be the new MTs and WAR n GUN will be the new OTs.

Love it when atheists pretend they're oppressed

Still looking for a girl to pump on Mateus.

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Shut up son of dob.

I like walking around hidden ,fuck you

>assuming the leaks are accurate
They aren't leaks, they're just some guy photoshopping existing game assets, I don't even know why you'd humor him or give him a time of the day, and then start making up ideas for him on how things could work if he was telling the truth. Do you retards not have had enough with ND and Smash "leakers" (read: LARPers who should be fucking permabanned off every board for being such fucking retarded clowns). I can totally see what Yoshi meant with not wanting to give any details in interviews until they're ready to do a full presentation because just his off-hand comment about considering splitting tanks by OT and MT already makes you spin with wild speculations that either expose that none of you know how the game works or expose you assuming that Yoshida doesn't know how his game works, which is, well, the latter is probably true, but my point is, you're discussing literally somebody's fanfic posted here for (You)s. The real leak we've got 3 hours before Tokyo fanfest on the other hand barely got any attention until it was shown to be real. God you're all so fucking stupid.

You either make off-tanks useless at MTing or MT's do zero damage when OTing
They should just keep tanking the way it is right now, there's pretty much no reason to try and reinvent the wheel here.
Jobs are always going to be left out but they should play similarlly while being mostly aesthetically similar.

Don't retarded dude.

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>it's not Ronso
>actually just Ronso

>Gets literally everything right
>"I-IT'S NOT RONSO!!!"

>you're discussing literally somebody's fanfic posted here for (You)s.
It's either that or I listen to the fucking howler-monkeys in this thread scream about trannies and /vg/ for ANOTHER FULL THREAD

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Just in case.

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>Diversion
Not like anyone uses it

I use it on CD porch monkey.

Was the surprise about dancer that it wouldn't be a healer?

I do.
Once per pull.

How exactly does hide work now? I was confused on how people even got TA mid fights because you can't hide in battle until I finally leveled one enough to get the ninjutsu.

He got everything right though

Many new cats, previewed fat cats
Dancer was a surprise it was a ranged DPS
CT was real
Hrothgar are male only and literal bara cats
Kirin Osode and Vermillion cloak were in.

He literally got nothing wrong besides saying they weren't Ronso, and I half believe they weren't until Yoshida finished the models.

Probably yeah, this was out before the first fanfest so I'm assuming.

Hide works exactly the same way as it does for gatherers save for the ninjutsu/Trick Attack conditionals. It resets the mudra recast timer when used out-of-combat, so typical use is to slap up Huton, Hide, and then use whatever. Add Kassatsu and you can spam three jutsus within ten seconds.

It resets the ninjitsu cooldown now.
Before you had to wait.

I think the entire role system is the downfall of MMOs in general, and I don't see XIV ever breaking the mold so it's probably just going to lead to more homogenization. The harder content gets, the more narrow the solution to it, and in order to ensure that players can play whatever class they want, the classes have to function as similarly as possible.

Out of all the things that'd probably help XIV the most avoid this, I'd say stronger cross-class function and easier leveling for other classes. People get attached to a single class because it's a time investment for a large portion of the playerbase to level and gear that class, and while for people who play pretty frequently it's not too hard to quickly bring up other classes to endgame, it's still a minor commitment. If players were expected to have two or three classes at max level and functional at a time, those classes could be more defined since you could expect people to switch to something that's optimal in a fight rather than try and make the only class they have at 70 work.

With the ability to quickly swap to something needed before every fight, you'd never have to worry about making an encounter a class couldn't complete. It even opens up some of the weirder possibilities like a fight that requires ranged classes only and no tanks at all, or some other odd combination of classes, or some class with a very specific ability unique to it.

>hide is useful because of "secondary effect recently stapled to it unrelated to stealth mechanics"
Why did you respond to my post you drooling fucking tard

>removing Royal Authority and Sword Oath from Paladin

I refuse to believe this isn't a giant troll. There is no way they could do something so stupid unless they are getting replaced with different cooler offensive abilities.

Leveling up warrior as we speak. Switching to Hrothgar day 1.

Assuming the "guesses" are accurate then, jesus. There's nothing to talk about properly itt unless you want to read people go on about muh trannies viera genderlocks bullshit for the millionth time.

based and wowfugeepilled

I'm loving that the strongest indicator that WoW is dying is the fact that there is a higher number of FFXIV threads than Blizzard shitfest.

Just stop creating hourly threads then. Benchmark is in two weeks. Just wait two weeks.

We could always drudge up BLU's corpse and moan about how Yoshida LITERALLY stabbed us in the back some more

Ah, extra pre-pull shenanigans, I should have figured that on my own. Thanks.

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Welcome to souleater spam light cuck

if the tank pulls without giving me a 10 second heads up, you better be fucking sure I'm not using it in my daily raid roulette.

Yoshida said that they intended to focus the tanks into MT and OT positions, I could see them replacing those.
I mean the dev team seems to fucking hate giving tanks a dot so.

>spawn in
>immediately ready check
>see everyone ready but the summoner
>start the countdown

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I don't make shit and I honestly kind of agree, but I'm still gonna take any chance I can to vent about mch and vainly hope gunbreaker magically fixes all my problems.

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Considered. Not intended. Considered. It's an impractical idea given that there are just as many settings with one tank as there are with two. And at most it could mean that one job has abilities like Intervention, not that they're suddenly ineffective at tanking.

>I mean the dev team seems to fucking hate giving tanks a dot so.

Why remove Royal Authority, then? Shouldn't they remove Goring Blade instead?

Just seems weird because the current Paladin gameplay is amazing right now.

>its going to be another month + of grinch tier "leaks"
big oof

Speaking of BLU, I just hit 50 and I like the idea behind the Carnivale. It feels fun even if it's pretty shallow.

The fact that I don't have anything else to do with BLU and it faces a stigma among my group is the worst though. Every so often, the stars line up and one of the new guys in the guild needs to do a pre-50 dungeon for the first time and we grab two other FC guys to make it a preformed party and I can use BLU for something. I can count on one hand the number of times it's occurred, and every time we get someone bitching that BLU's not a real class and everyone else is going to have to carry it through or that it's overpowered and not fun to play alongside (As if anyone was having any fun playing Satasha for the 100th time again anyway).

You'd still run into the brickwall that is the DF, which is just as terrible as the trinity itself. They have to homogenize so hard in the first place because they design content around a roulette that only pulls jobs from three categories. The randomness of it doomed gameplay to only function around roles and not jobs themselves. Not to mention what it does from a community aspect; it's no surprise that people consider it a single-player MMO when party structure/duties require 0 communication.

The only middle ground open right now is to split caster/melee/ranged into three different roles and raise Light Party number to 5. That way, Caster and Ranged can be given more tools that break the mold of just DPS, and add some level of diversity to role performance and enemy mechanics. Of course, any changes made to the game would have to be made exclusively for 81+ content, since going back and re-balancing past content with a new system is borderline impossible without yet another overhaul.

>my face reading that they made light party 1/1/2 rather than 1/1/3 just to have it be different

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I'd just say make all future dungeons eight man groups like trials/raids. Beyond dungeons, every other group content uses larger party sizes, might as well go all the way. Make it a 1/5/2 comp, allow GNB and WAR to fill the spot of a DPS if there's too many tanks in queue. Make the DPS split with varying roles like you said. Or move WAR and GNB and DRG to a weird off-tank spot where they function mostly like a DPS with the ability to absorb some damage and manipulate aggro. For all content prior to 71, everyone functions like they used to.

>like a specific job
>hate the others
>play irregularly
>be forced to level multiple jobs just to clear content

jesus christ how horrible

So it's stated we're probably getting a new healer at a future expansion to even roles out, where each role (Tank, healer, melee DPS, ranged DPS, caster DPS) has four jobs for it.

Which would you rather see for the spot of healer: Chemist or Sage? Or would you like a completely different job to take the spot?

why can't jobs have flavor abilities that add to their fantasy but are only marginally useful? WoW also fell into the trap of removing things for the sake of it and that's a major part of why bfa sucks. ninja was already pruned in stormblood. if anything should go it's dream within a dream

>Which would you rather see for the spot of healer

Probably Geomancer if they can make it stand out from WHM (stone) and AST.

It is just a shame thinking about a new Healer job right now because Dancer, in most peoples eyes, made the absolute most sense for the next healer job, and now that it is a rDPS it is hard to think of what could be unique for the role.

>if there's too many tanks in queue

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>Game expects you to have three jobs available for content.
>Cuts the experience needed to max out each job down to 1/3 of what it would be, taking the same amount of time a single job would've taken to level.
>Someone still throws a fit because he's not allowed to main one very specific job and do nothing else.

I take a screenshot every time leveling roulette isn't Adventurer in Need: Tank. I have five screenshots in the last year. I'm surprised I have that many.

i mean it's a dumb idea but that's actually kind of a problem in 24mans

WHM should never have been lumped in with elemental magic conjurers. banish could easily replace stone, dia for aero, and whatever for fluid aura. if WHM didn't already occupy the geomancer slot that could easily be a new job.

>Dancer, in most peoples eyes, made the absolute most sense for the next healer job
No it didn't. Dancer has never been a healer.
Chemist healer. I want a non-magic healer. Make its job weapon a bag, offensive abilities throwing bombs or some shit, and healing by mixing items like mudras. Drop ground aoe heal puddles, maybe even give it an mp-recovering gimmick or let it move while casting. Sage would probably only be a limited job since it's both a BLM and a WHM. I wouldn't mind that desu. Flavor it around Ancient spells or something, maybe a similar black/white balancing mechanic like RDM but with some kind of twist.

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I like specializing in one role over the others, and I'd rather prefer a system that rewards the commitment, over being forced to grind shit you don't care about for the sake of grinding. That's just not fun at all.

Here's your dancer bro.

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What a shit idea.

That entire image is supposedly made by a leaker. It was first posted a little before the JP fanfest

Could be better, but they're better than no qt furry race at all.

Absolutely ____cute____

No, this is.

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A horn would get in the way of....things.

>Machinist with a chainsaw and a drill

I have never known how much I needed this until right now.

PF adventures with 2 bards. His bard opener was questionable, does anyone know where he got it?
ffxivrotations.com/2079

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People only thought Dancer would be a healer because it was so obvious that Square was hardcore hinting at it as the next job and because people are retarded thought this exp would be TANK/HEALER since we got DPS/DPS for SB.

>queues die in 2 weeks

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>No it didn't. Dancer has never been a healer.

A couple recent FF games have been giving Dancer Healer/support skills. XI was probably the first, but some of the spin-off titles also use Waltzes as healing skills. It's kind of a take-off from FFV, where they could heal themselves, and spinning it more towards party healing. It's not a 100% consistent job, but Support is definitely part of its kit.

Although, keep in mind, other FF games aren't made around a Trinity in the first place, so Dancer never had to conform to a particular role; it just always had a mix of damage, debuffs and occasionally some recovery skills. So, not saying it being a ranged DPS is inconsistent, but neither is it being considered a healer.

>why can't jobs have flavor abilities that add to their fantasy but are only marginally useful?
Because they take up too many spots on a controller.

I'd rather see more diversity in raiding than try to hammer everything to fit a static meta. Forcing a 2/2/4 meta and trying to have all classes function on par with each other will lead to homogenization, once the jobs become near-identical with a different coat of paint over them it will not be worth continuing in my book. Just more repeated content with mechanics shuffled different.

The game is already overly harsh on anyone who plays multiple roles in respect to gear, but with the way things are going, it's going to get even worse.

>kraut

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>M-muh 10 sec pull timer
Sad

dancer has never thrown chakrams around either, user; that was ninjas. being a slave to previous game conventions is how you get FFXIV 1.0.

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or XIV BLU

It still is technically commitment to a job if your acquiring horizontal resources to fulfill its duty. But I'll digress, because I could never understand how people play RPGs without some tolerance or enjoyment from playing multiple roles. It seems like the wrong genre if you just wanna hone in on one type of gameplay style, especially coming from console games that fully expect you to play and grow multiple classes/characters.

Then again, I will give your argument some credit: This game has very little attachment to RPG mechanics, so I can see why it appeals to a different audience.

>I'd rather see more diversity in raiding than try to hammer everything to fit a static meta

How do you see that diversity in practice? If one job is inferior to the rest, people will simply abandon it and focus on the strongest and most versatile ones.

It should go without saying, but role-playing games are about playing a role, by definition. If you're forced to become a jack of all trades, the roles cease to have any meaning. You're basically just some kind of a general manager without an identity then

It's just the way the game has to be because of the trinity and the focus on content like that. Jobs are basically only aesthetically different.

Do they get periods?

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its too bad none of you fucks agreed with how Blu was handled then.

I will never not be mad how BLU turned out.

We'll find out next NA fanfest.

dancer is already in the picture on the right i dont get why'd he put it in twice

Basic female biology states that they do. come on now.

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Not him, but I see your stance on playing roles in RPGs totally differently. Having a various roles allows the player to find one they like and focus in on it. I tend to find what characters or classes I like early on and stick with them, and bench the characters/classes I don't care about. Because the player is given options, they are free to choose their own playstyle rather than be forced to switch between ones they dislike or not feel a connection to.

Shut the fuck up already, Dancer has always been a DPS/Support role, any healing it has ever had has been a side support option and no it's primary function.
You niggers only care about the fact that you didn't get another healer, you don't actually give a shit about Dancer.
Meanwhile BLU is literally unplayable.

MY BODY IS READY FOR BUNNY GIRLS
AND BY BODY I MEAN MY DICK
YOSHI-P...LEASE

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>they are free to choose their own playstyle rather than be forced to switch between ones they dislike or not feel a connection to.

You pretty much HAVE to gear up a tank/healer if you want to get anywhere in this game.

No because they are all futas

Where my wizzas at.
You ready for all the new toys we're getting in 5.0?

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BLU is unplayable specifically because of your retarded "has always been" mentality.

My "body" is ready for baracats

Is dragoon fun? I like the light spear you get in potd

Have you ever, EVER seen a female's monthly menstrual cycle mentioned in game?

Yeah and non of these healer fucks gave a shit about it. So what's your point? they only seethe when they realize they won't have another unga bunga healer to play.

There will come a time when we won't be getting any new jobs anymore

i never realized how ugly they were, holy fuck

In its current state, there can't be a lot of diversity. Jobs function in a vacuum for the most part by design, in the sense that groups should ideally be able to place a DRK, PLD, or WAR of any combination in their tank spots and have no difference in between clearing the content. This is mostly a failure of raid design than it is job design though since the raids are built around a core set of tools shared by all tanks with everything else being icing on the cake.

By making the jobs within roles distinct, you might create situations where one job is more useful than other for parts of content. But, by having different points within fights where each of the jobs can shine, you can create subjective arguments on which tanks are better for the fight based on where the group has the most trouble. Furthermore, by adding synergies between jobs (For instance, the group dynamic of a PLD-SCH pairing functions different than a PLD-WHM pairing), you can add further diversity to team compositions as well.

Of course, this is all a moot point because currently it's not just about clearing endgame content but scoring a quick kill for a scoreboard as well. Because of that, DPS becomes the core concern of any group, so all groups are quickly optimized for DPS. You could have a tank that was functionally immortal and groups wouldn't take them so long as other, technically inferior tanks were able to put out 10% more DPS, because speed kills are king when FCs compare themselves.

Not if limited jobs are successful.

nigga, that's like 6 years away

>objectively better models than every other race
>straight up look like ff 12 viera
>ugly
okay

look at those fucking faces man

this but unironically
can't wait for another tank with aggro combo, dps combo, strong tank cd, invuln and big damage ogcd

Do you really plan on playing until the heat death of the universe?

There will come a time when the game doesn't get expansions either and is put on life support. I still plan to enjoy it while it lasts.

I'm glad they didn't do the most obvious thing and make it a healer. If it wasn't just another scholar it would have been dumpstered by everybody but those obnoxious healslut roleplayers.

Do you have the cash for a level potion?
It's literally bar none the worst designed in terms of reworks adjusting for early levels. All your interesting and engaging mechanics are tied up at level cap. Everything from 0-60 is insufferable samey tedium.

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Yeah at 70lvl.

i think they look pretty good
i never play female chars cause they were all too "cutesy" looking and femroes and fem elezen are fucking ugly but i might fanta to a viera

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I should have specified, at max since I have lancer at 34 from years back, and I'm finally getting the itch to play something I haven't before the expansion comes out.

Oh yea, because BLU is doing so well.

I don't even think the class is that fun at 70. The normal rotation works well enough, but the need to weave jumps and mirage dives throughout gets a little too busy for my tastes, and your big DPS phase is really just spamming a strong OGCD attack every 10 seconds.

Seething

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I mean those are just basic toolkits for the tank role in general. If a tank is missing any of these they are essentially non-functional. It reminds me of ESO when only DKs had a chain and a reliable resource recovery skill, which basically made them the only good tank in the game. It was fucking awful. You're right in that tanks shouldn't just be designed around those skills with a different coat of paint, but they should at least cover those basic needs before expanding into their own unique identities. It's like if you had a healer without esuna or raise.

They all look like basketball Americans with varying levels of melanin. Girl on the right in is clearly a house negro.

What level will Gunbreaker be to start?

Do you hate lalafell?

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user both you and I know all it takes is them putting something shiny behind the BLU content for it to be successful. Look at Eureka.

Cope healslut.

so what

I hate that people keep drawing them off-model.

Nothing, just an observation

It's not a healer though.

Black mommy gf

their cute and adorable. not sexy

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ff 12 viera have always looked like that my man

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I hate 95% of lalafell players.

Oh. Fine work.

You absolutely do not, and they have gotten rid of mechanics that previously encouraged you to.

this but with male miqote

her shirt is on backwards

So what is going to happen to Paladin in 5.0 now that there are MT/OT designations and Yoshi said he knows oaths aren't designed well?

The problem is this game does that anyway, despite homogenizing class roles. It's effectively a lose/lose situation. If the meta is not static, that would imply that jobs themselves are diverse enough to excel at different encounters. I believe that user was implying that if Raids required different, specific mechanics, then the game would be "balanced" because different jobs would be popular for different things. It's not a perfect fix, but it does create scenarios where specific jobs shine in one fight, but fumble in another. It's more a win/lose philosophy.

It has nothing to do with jack-of-all trades as a design choice, just that players can seek some enjoyment/understanding from occupying different roles and jobs. It's kind of a more thorough love of the game, to see how all the aspects and variables work together from a global aspect. And to add to that:

If that's your intent in a single player game, then that's fully within your right. I just find it odd not to be open to other characters/classes, especially from a monotony standpoint. However, as a multiplayer game, this can be seen as a very selfish mentality. Saying you'll only play DRG, for example, can be a burden on other players if it doesn't work with the group dynamic. Having a lot of role-breadth as a player shows more responsibility and can be entertaining in its own right.

I get that this game doesn't necessary cater to players like me, but I feel it is right to defend that games are perfectly fine when they reward people who enjoy horizontal growth and role performance. I only contend with it because it seems like XIV players tend to wince whenever ideas are brought up that bring them out of their exclusive comfort zone. And I just like to clarify that some people actually enjoy being forced to adapt to different roles and job mechanics. I'll agree it's a difference of opinion, but remain adamant that it's a perfectly acceptable design philosophy.

>irl friends start playing FFXIV
>they all make male cat characters
how could this happen

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>tfw writing edgy homo fanfiction about my character becoming a Dark Knight

>befriending females

male Miqote are either
1. Massive faggots that feel obligated to let you know they're gay, in a gay FC/Linkshell, and have gay friends
2.Absolute shit teir players that somehow get carried into savage raid teirs 3/4
3.Actually good player but ultra turbo-ebola-cancer personality
I fucking hate Male Miqo

>remaking it AGAIN
what the fuck
how will they "fix" it this time
I remember being very excited for the game and it turned out to be literal shit

I wish they'd replace holy spirit with a satisfying looking melee attack

>Actually good player but ultra turbo-ebola-cancer personality
larryzaur?

> now that there are MT/OT designations
There aren't yet, fuck off.

What about gays that are competent but don't talk.

You shouldn't talk here either, user.

>rejoined for the callback campaign
>skipped all the shitty cutscenes, got my mount, and logged out
Jokes on you Yoshi.

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Yes sir.

Why do I feel like they will just remove all cross skills?

you forgot
>4. fujos

i honestly don't understand how either gays or women could stand playing male miqote. they're fucking uggo. midlanders are the real genetic lottery winners.

>Joined in after years thanks to the campaign
>Got my mount
>Fashion Report should be enough for last two event items
>Figured I might as well play where I left off
>"Go get us some tea leaves"
Now I remember I was dreading this.

It's the fact that they're gigantic faggots about it and act like drama queens over every little thing. Most of them probably post here desu

>Find out a bunch of guys at work play XIV
>Im the only one that plays a girl

WHAT THE FUCK BROS

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now you'll never be able to make friends :^)

You're the only straight one.

If only they looked like this.

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1: cute but weird gnome
4: prostitute with dwarfism

Remove people who don't like to grind from the MMO genre, force them out.

Do we know anything about Gunbreaker, other than what they said when they revealed it?
Also what do people call it? GNB?

We know absolutely nothing about it and it will most likely be abbreviated GNB.

It is both a blessing and a curse that in this game we have literally 0 info to go off of until about a week before the shit actually comes out, if even.

Come back in late May with these questions.

Shouldn't the fucking benchmark trailer be coming out soon?

The benchmark for both Heavensward and Stormblood came out on like April 20th. Yet here we are with literally zero info on it at all.

all in may

Alright, thanks. I stopped playing during 4.2 I think, I forgot about their news cycle.

It is kind of odd how they withhold actual gameplay changes and additions, but fully spill the beans on all the aesthetic nonsense. You'd think the former is far more important for players to know about, but then again, this is a subscription-based game with a cash-shop of pretty garbage. I guess you just can't advertise gameplay anymore.

this, it's so odd to me that they announce 2 new jobs and dont say shit about what the jobs actually do until months after they do so

Anyone have that shitty c@ slut fashion report sheet? I am too lazy to look it up

Will the shadowbringer's collector's edition ever re-stock?

>It is kind of odd how they withhold actual gameplay changes and additions, but fully spill the beans on all the aesthetic nonsense.
Why is it odd? They're not showing shit is because it's not done.

It's not odd at all. Visuals are locked down far earlier than gameplay and Japanese are notoriously averse to showing incomplete stuff publicly.

Imagine falling for this bullshit.

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>Japanese are notoriously averse to showing incomplete stuff publicly

oh no no no no pfffffft

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This the Addon will be so shit you will unsub even before lvl 80

What are you implying? Those Visual Works movies were very complete.

It was exactly the same for every other expansion, and even for WoW, you dumb fuck

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You may not like it, but this is what a peak raider looks like

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I wouldn't expect anything else.

>claws of the beast
eww

What boots are those?

mogstation Y'shtola boots

rent-free

At least it's playing the game.

Gameplay changes and direction are planned just as much as anything, and are subject to minor changes to the exact same degree. If they weren't, they'd have nothing to plan and balance content around, and those are far from last minute additions.

There is plenty to discuss and inform players in regards to mechanical changes and how the new jobs operate. Instead, we get people crying tears over completely unnecessary racial additions. Gameplay is a second-class citizen, and that's why we get budget-cuts like removing TP without full clarification, or how they intend to restructure the system.

>Cutting TP is a budget cut
>When it hasn't matter for years

You should've stopped while you were ahead, you're just making it even more obvious that you're bullshitting.

>removing TP
>budget cuts
What?

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So, you either fix it, or you give a reason why it should be consolidated into another existing system. They picked the latter, but gave nearly no explanation on the hows or whys. That's the issue, they just claim to be fixing shit and not giving any info even though they clearly have it planned out.

So, what, you queue up for an expert roulette and you have a 50/50 chance of getting a strictly worse tank? What kind of dogshit game design would that be? DPS stance works on bosses, but on wall to wall pulls you will get fucking SHREDDED nine times out ten if you aren't in tank stance.

If you play anything but a white male highlander you are a gaymosexual tranny

>not giving any info
The info will be in the May PLL, it's not fucking finalized, are you dumb or what? And they're not giving any info because they're completely right when they say that saying one thing without giving a full picture is a bad idea because just look how many people are making long-reaching conlusions just off small comments about MT/OTs and how they want to improve usability of WHM.

And if you've actually been playing the game for any significant amount of time you should know why TP is going to be gone, it's because there is no longer a need for two energy systems with the current class design especially when they added another one in form of job bars (of which not all worked out well but that's another issue altogether). You're just a retarded fucking doomposter who doesn't actually play the game and comes to the threads to feel validated complaining about it in an echobox because you don't have anything else going in your life.

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>highlander
miss me with that homo race

>playing as a RMT-botlander

I play a white female (male) highlander.

You don't owe people your presence, particularly if they've done nothing to deserve. Just fuckin leave nigga, I did the same thing. FC became dead and static was full of unfunny shitters so I just dropped em and server transferred to be with IRL friends. Instantly started enjoying the game more.

i play femroe, highlanders look weird

I am so glad most of you aren't game devs.

>Only tank with a shield
>Yoshi puts them in the role where they explicitly will not be blocking hits
What the FUCK did he mean by this

God I want Chemist so bad, if only to have a healer that ISN'T frilly girly magic bullshit.

Yes.

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>role about being a staunch defender of your allies
>you are in the role in which you actively defend others instead of yourself
???

>whoops

It's more realistic now that they're combining TP/MP.
The biggest hurdle is the naming convention. Alchemist already exists, so they may have to call it Physician or Medic or something.

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They don't need to give info on why TP is being cut because it's incredibly fucking obvious: it serves no purpose. TP, in it's current form, ONLY exists to hamstring melee AoE despite the fact that it is already consistently weaker than magic AoE.

>Has a shield
>Doesn't use it

>what's arms of passage

Gaius was against the gas though?

>shield slam
>uses magic to shield others
>blocks aoe damage
>blocks whenever you hold the boss for tank swaps

I dunno maybe you’re just weird? You’re not defending anyone by being a MT. Youre just being the focus of the boss. By being in OT, you use magic and whatever the fuck cover is, to heal and protect your allies. Taking damage meant for them towards yourself.
Sound like a bad PLD player if you don’t use party mitigation.

Tanking the boss is literally the height of protecting the party and PLD doesn't do it.

More like Gaius van Ballsack.

Chemist should be a gun job, so there's one for each role

No white middy/any elezen are the only non-tranny/homo races.

Gaius is a faggot who doesn't have the balls to do that

Chemist weapon should be a bag of grenades.

Elezens are more tranny than femroe with their giraffe necks

Chemist would use bombs XII style probably.

And yet that's still not an explanation for why they couldn't do all of that while tanking the boss.

That's not the point at all. Even with that argument, the option to fix TP entirely was always on the table anyway.

But I'm not criticizing them for removing TP, I'm criticizing the lack of information around how it affects MP, or even if MP management will still be a thing. It's clear they're going through with it, so they must have a plan for how the system will work. That's what we need to know: not that the system is broken, but how they interpret the issue and how it will affect gameplay as a whole. All we got instead was a general statement that claimed further pruning of skills and removal of TP. Not a very good way to address an issue, and it just leads to hopeless fantheorys and more bullshit leaks.

>Hey, I'm your collective bodyguard but you keep his attention
>I'll just throw up a bandaid every now and then

Because yoshida's a dumbass and doesn't realize that all of PLD's utility is useless when it has less aggro generation than WAR. This has been the main problem with WAR since they added EQ, nothing generates enmity as quickly and as strong as it while still having good uptime on it's damage.
I mean most shitters don't even realize that OT and MT are pointless since most of the time it's more viable to swap tanks accordingly.
But for the sake of removing the OT stigma PLD needs better enmity generation. It just sucks because the PLD re-work was fine until they buffed warrior into retardation.

8/10 BA clears

Why am I doing this, why have I lost control of my life. Climbed Kugane tower like 4 times waiting for runs to fill. I had given up on it like years ago but now I can get up there. These skills will not serve me in real life.

>DRG has a cool dragon when it's in BOTD
>MNK has cool greased lightning mechanic
>MCH has overheat funk
>DRK has edge funk
>NIN literally doesn't even get anythign when it has Huton.

Why are the devs so fucking lazy.

Since tank stances are getting removed or reworked, the problem of WAR having incredibly easy enmity generation is going to either go away, or be severely mitigated.

>not adding retarded auras is lazy
Nah, now not having trance animations for SMN, even if it's just one model for each race/gender combination, IS lazy.

>Grenadier healer

Nin has CLANG CLANG CLANG

They do all their testing completely during development, there is no beta testing. So they hold back revealing everything until it's closer to being finalized, since there is no reason to tell us about something that might be changed soon.

Why the fuck does MCH fire the gun like it's a pistol but the sprint animation holds it like a rifle?

I really hope they fix this shit.

this guy is totally fired

Either way, I'd actually play healer more often if they ever release something interesting like that. I'm fearing a healer drought.

I want it.
I need it.

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what the fuck do you think a tranny is

I'm 100% certain this is just blufever, and that mr.happy is just blufever. Look at his state of the realm, he was hinting WAY too hard that male viera wouldn't be added.

Too bad it's not gonna happen.

Hammer healer. Eden's getting us a hammer healer. Screenshot this so I can bash your fucking head in with a verclunk

>tfw writing edgy homo fanfiction about my character becoming a Dark Knight
>edgy homo

Somewhat intrigued.

>Waiting 2 years LOL

Literally anybody that plays this game.

ShB is saved!

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Most were talking about no male viera when hrotghar surfaced. Only delusional people talked about 2 races and both having both genders.

WHAT? WAIT SHOW HROTH FACES. SHOW HEIGHT.

It's from instagram you dumb tranny

>everyone's a tranny

Shut yo dumb ass up nigga.

did you just assume their ethnicity?

BOTD is not as cracked up to be as you might think, I feel like it exists to get dropped because every fucking boss has too much downtime.

Make me faggot

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>furfag trying to act hard

Just let us keep eyes when BotD drops. Few times in 11s I dropped BotD after level checker because we killed it too fast or too slow.

cos people don't report them

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These leaks are pretty retarded because they fly in the face of every single conventional and non-conventional design choice the dev team has made. Granted, SE does say conflicting stuff at times but this isn't like SB changes, these seem random and without any real thought put into it. Dude's just larping like the other user said.

I feel like most fights where it falls off you can redo your opener when the boss comes back.

O10s is a recent example at least. Hope we get more cool stuff with it in ShB if piercing is removed or debuffs in general are changed. It'll be cool to see the meta become more fluid I'd like to be able to play something different/not have to bully my BRD for not being in range of my tether.

I was thinking green mage as a melee healer when they did that. They laid it on so fucking thick it was ridiculous, but they also explicitly made clear not wanting to balance 4 healers for SHBR. Shit just felt way too hammed up to be "oh lol warriors can use hammers now". And it's a very obscure class, even if melee healer is a perfect niche.

I'm busy playing Hellsguard.

The event made me want to play FF15, should I?

Thought the same thing. It makes sense that its not happening this expansion because as it stands current healers do not have a lot in terms of actions they do to the boss. Stone, Maleific, Broil is the most we spam. Getting them out of the Shield vs Regen phase they're in and making their healing more interactive (Stuff I can do before/after healing that isn't just pressing one button) would open the door perfectly for a melee healer. Plus, a 'tanky' healer thats a little more armored than the others would appeal to classic fantasy fans who like Clerics and falls in line with SE's wishes for a more traditional fantasy FF game in the future.

I touched it on PS4 for a little bit. For what little I played I had fun, but the low FPS was killing me. If it had higher frames (which it does I'm pretty sure on PC) then that combined with the texture update probably would make it exceptionally fun.

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Cute!

>duck mouths

Time
Stellar stories starward bestrewn. slipping sidewise; see, they're snakes.
Twixt the leaves you'll find naught amiss-missing aughts and crossing fates.
Freedom surgent shifting ahead. comets dancing in her wake
To the cosmic clarion's accord, along the path not taken.

Try. dare the dead tread ahead on a road that is borrowed design.
Through the sum of their sons do they seek tomorrow
Tonight, witness then as the end shall begin what was final.
Their lies, folding back, further back. ever back to the primal.

>Job info isn't for another month

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Fuck you, i'm going bunny girl gunblade and ya'll can suck my dick

D.Va is that you

He literally got everything right, the fuck are you on about?

Do in-game viera have the funky rabbit feet? Or are they literally just normal feet like the Hyur?

No.

they only showed them with heels on

Can you pre-order the collector's edition even though it's out of stock? I've been trying to buy it all day but keep getting an error.

Fuck.
They're gonna be Elezen with rabbit ears, aren't they?

the dancer trailer has the viera in flat shoes
they just have normal feet

possibly

Considering the Shadowbringers website literally only mentions the ears as what differentiates them from hyur or elezen yeah.

They're 50/50. Race outfit has heels. Dancer af gear has flat shoes and those are the only two outfits we've seen them in.

No way Yoshi went back and gave them heels for all existing footwear when they just aren't even bothering to finish headgear for the new races. Much easier to just give them flat feet.

Yeah speaking of headgear, does like, none of them appear on the new races?
Is there any word on if they're actually gonna ... fix that?

The retard who posted the suspected prunings? The fuck you on about retard? I was replying to these two because they're talking about Blufever and those leaks as if they had any bearing on what the user was talking about.

Also "Not ronso" when they literally are ronso lol

Only 2.0 and some 3.0 don't show. Literally everything else works.

Some does. They said they have plans to patch more in but gave few specific examples. Meme items like namazu and chocobo heads work but stuff like glasses do not.

WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THIS OUT YET? WHAT THE FUCK YOSHIDA.

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Real shit though, I hear every now and then that HW killed the raiding scene thanks to its fights being either too strict or too hard, is that what really did it?

Side note to that, SB raiding was like a gentle slope in terms of difficulty. Following all the class changes and them needing to rebuild their raid player base AND adding Ultimate fights, you think they're gonna progressively increase difficulty? I'm not really complaining in that regard I'm just curious because I'd like harder fights but won't really mind if they're all around the same difficulty.

Aside from one head, they really aren't ronso at all. Don't even have similar lore.

It was a combination of the fights being too strict for DPS checks and tank gear being an utter shitshow on top with the rewards system being retardedly bad.

Yeah, Gordias was fucking stupid and caused a ton of people to either give up on raiding or move servers and drop their statics to find better players, as well as create this stigma that raiding is absurdly hard which is why a lot of people still don't bother.

It scared most normies off of raiding, like a friend of mine who only does EX"s refuses to do any savage despite them being easy as fuck.

I think savage difficulty is fine for now if they keep adding ultimates. I think we need at least 1 more tier until they can up difficulty.

>easy as fuck
Sure, but also excessively frustrating.
When the entire encounter design is a memorized simon says dance, but a single person messing up or lagging a single time can end the entire fight for all 8 people: It's just retarded.

They managed to make it both brain-dead and supremely frustrating at the exact same time.

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And...?

Also, I think raids like Chaos is perfect for new raiders.

As a player who started in 2.0 but was HYPER casual about finishing 3.0 and stuff I saw that stigma. Even into 4.0 it persisted but alte roite was easy enough that most people dipped their toes in as far as I can tell. I like the third fight of every tier being a gate keeper of sorts. Fuck train and chardanook though. They should be swapped.

The first few fights are easier than a lot of Ex's your friends a pussy (But for real, if you can ever get him to go into Alte roite or Chaos drag him in because they're so easy)

Fair point actually, at the moment a lot of my enjoyment of the fights come from me enjoying the classes and the mechanics. So long as they remain fun I'll be happy. I'm going into UWU Wednesday so it'll be fun. Looking back on my logs from when me and my friends did Susano to where I am now is actually magical.

Will rdm and mch get love in shadowbringers bros

>RDM
Aren't they in a good spot? They'll get love I'm sure but if anything they'll get a slight nerf because they are too strong as a progging class. Their utility makes them a strong pick, but if ShB wants to make them better a bigger focus on rDPS and pDPS would be nice.

>MCH
Hopefully a rework like BRD. Job identity in this game is pretty tough because they're all pretty homogenous but so long as BRD and MCH play differently while accomplishing the same goals (And MCH isn't too clunky) then I'd be hella happy.

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RDM feels great to play even if it might be boring. Mch is just shit at everything.

>zooming in that close for a PR shot
uh

As someone who enjoyed FFXV a lot, only if you can find it cheap.

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>Only 5 extra options

I'm sorry, but didn't they say they added a shit ton of extra customization for theae two races to compensate for the lack of helmets? Because that one screen at least is no more than any other race.

Got the source for this?

Why do you believe anything they say at this point?

What does a facial extras screen have to do with ear and face shape?

Nobody cares about fucking dungeons you sperg.

>>>/F-List/
>>>/Furaffinity/
>>>/e621/

You have to go back

>Straight up look like ff 12 viera
Proportions are wrong

The FFXIV instagram account, they posted it earlier

Thanks

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I look forward to you seething when 5.0 drops

This wasn't in my game what did I miss?

The multiplayer mode Comrades.

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Eh okay. Thanks user!

It was a shitshow.
DPS too strict.
Gear was a mess.
And the netcode was horrible.

What I want:
>Extremes to be the new Savage
>Savage to be closer to Ultimate difficulty but having a checkpoint halfway through the fight
>Ultimates to remain as it is
Alternatively add a new fight in-between Savage and Ultimate but that's too much work.

>play together
>in a single-player game with no content
They're adding Trusts for a reason you know.

ultimate is too time consuming, takes full built statics several weeks to clear.
personally I think that savage should be puggable. I think is right on the spot, Chaos is a good intro to Savage, but the gravity eyeball, demon chadernook and Midgarsomr should be more difficult.

Midgar is unpuggable. The only reason I beat it thru PF is because I kept running into the same batch of 5-6 people over the course of a weekend.

I don't care about content being unpuggable, I'm fine with statics, it's a nice way to meet people and it's the only bit of socialization left in this fucking game outside of RP.

i consistently farmed it on light

On the opening weeks? Doubtful.

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Reminder that Japs pug Ultimates.

Fuck that fight and fuck my retarded brain that can't do the fireball mechanic.

FFXIV is a persistently online game that benefits from having a number of stable contacts to play with. There's not really any benefit to looking for people on sites like these. Even less considering that the majority of content isn't really "enriched" by playing through it with pre-selected people. I always did my Expert roulettes with friends and honestly it's a negligible difference other than it's faster, but efficiency isn't inherently fun.

I'd like to do it in the west, but everyone requires discord/a static. West scene is lame. Also, didn't some numbers get released saying ~10% of jp clears savage meanwhile a measly 2% west

literally does not happen

Hopefully things will change by next week once the cross world visiting drops. Now people don't have server excuses anymore, you just pick a datacenter and play together.

How do you know what all of those things are, user?

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You already can do that for instances, nothing changes. You'll be able to meet each other in the open world but what the fuck are you going to do? MSQ? FATEs? Maps?

SEETHING bunnyfag
this is a furchad game now get used to it faggot

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Hunts, easier relic grinding, dueling at the den, alliance maps that are getting added in SHB, all those official and unofficial community events that aren't server exclusive anymore.

Really, user?
You want this thread deleted that badly?

Just being able to meet up with other people outside of instances and access their servers cheaper marketboard is good enough

>implying they have no barbs
pathetic

Eh, fair enough. Half of those I wouldn't go out of my way to cross-server, but that's more on me, I guess. Except the dueling, FFXIV PvP is just not designed for 1v1s.

Is there a way to get a ilvl 400 ring without doing savage?

Do you think they go around mpregging other races?

MMO PvP in general is not designed for 1v1. They're always balanced for 3v3 or 5v5.

no

Im 3 but I don’t talk at all.

based can't wait to roll hrothgar dancer and trigger normies

Gay as fuck. In HW you could get a capped ilvl ring just by doing Dun Scaith.

what tank should i lvl? I heard dankknight has a good story but palas look cool as heck in that saber pose when their sword is drawn and they idle

People always play up JP and then ignore when the same shit happens on NA. I'm on Behemoth and saw a Ucob farm party the other day. It's not hard to have players join, them being successful is another story

Wrong
Get a 390 ring with tomestones
Upgrade it with 24raid coins to 400 ring

Hrothgar? More like Hrothgay.

it's because they didn't add a third alternative this time around
that said, o9s is really easy especially with echo so you have no reason to not get 4 clears

he obviously implies he has the 400 tome one already retard

I've already done O9S on other jobs a bunch of times months ago. But now trying to beat O9S is rough on a alt job because all the good players unsubbed months ago and all that's left are catch up people and level boosters who suck.

level up what you think is cooler. PLD has great armor, DRK has good story.

Playing a Roe WAR, I fucking hope the WAR quests in SDB are actually good.
Gorge and his dumb dragon gf are fine but Warrior of Light was barely involved in the events that happened there

if you want to see a waste of time job questline, 60-70 scholar has you.

Gorge and his boner was not fine, it was fucking awful in fact.
It's fine to have a questline where the PC takes the sidelines, like how HW DRK was about Sidurgu and his not-daughter and it was great.
10 levels of WARRIOR OF LIGHT MY PEEPEE IS HARD WHY IS THIS HAPPENING DAMN THAT BLASTED WOMAN is just fucking terrible.

Fuck the bunnies, fuck the BARA furries I'm going to keep playing cat

My style of tanking is extremely aggressive leading to high damage output while still maintaining all of my tanking capabilities. This is achieved by min-maxing stats, aiming HP for thresholds, stance dancing, and making the correct choices to maximize and to mitigate damage when the situations arise by using offensive cooldowns in a defensive way, while defensive cooldowns are used in a offensive way. Do not think that just because you are a tank you are incapable of producing high amounts of damage while tanking.

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Just overmeld the 390 one. It's probably better that whatever O9s gives anyway.

Reminder that the real snowflake race will be elezen, as most female elezen players will be switching over to Viera.

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>fuck the furry races
>plays a furry race

Would girls(female) even want to be a viera? I thought they were mostly dull hyurs or cutsey lalas.

DRK is kinda weird but it has the best storyline this game can offer.
PLD is alright it has nice armor and the best pvp sets.
WAR is the unga bunga tank pretty easy to play.
All the tanks are viable in late despite what people will tell you just pick whatever you want.

viera is the tranny/incel race