Why is Xenoblade Chronicles 2 so good?

Why do you keep doing this?
You and I both know why you made this thread.

>no japanese "humor"
what the fuck

Meaningless buzzword.

All xenoblede games have shit battle system. Go like xenogears and saga or go full action. This mmo like is total garbage.

They're not "talking" about it all, just doing porn dumps.

Because you just spoiled it, which is a bannable offense.

next one unironically would benefit from farming mechanics, they're not going to make the combat good without overhauling the whole gameplay loop and ruining the sense of openness, so they should continue to lean into the other gameplay elements

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Everything in the first couple chapters were decent-tier. However, the last couple chapters were fucking KINO-tier. Had me feeling like I was watching Evangelion for the first time again. When I say that, I'm not talking about plot, but with the characters.

>Had me feeling like I was watching Evangelion for the first time again
So it was utter garbage?

I don't know why people insist on drawing art of Xenoblade 2 as a classic game to push the narrative that it's "just like the good old days" when it's nothing like that at all.
The closest thing would be a PS2 JRPG, the original Xenoblade was even more like those games and it didn't get any of the shitty pretentious hipster indie "so oldschool!" art this game did.

I'm talking about the emphasis on the characters.

it's just something from a chinese forum, there is no narrative-pushing

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So it was utter garbage?

sure buddy, keep accepting the opinions you see here as your own.

So it was utter garbage?

I'm not sure if my body could handle a second X and twist. I still get chills thinking about the ending and on one hand I want to know, but on the other hand not knowing makes it all that much more fun.

>but on the other hand not knowing makes it all that much more fun
This guy gets it.

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't need X2 to be a direct sequel. I just want another game with that style of gameplay/exploration, and less of a focus on story.

god I love pyra

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If I didn't really like xc1, will I care for this game? I don't mind weebshit at all, so that's not a problem

I'd rather it not be a direct sequel and ruin the mystique of the first. Plenty of story and all is fine, but indeed what I really want is more exploration. X beats the shit out of any other game I can think of in that regards. It feels extremely epic walking around and exploring an alien world on foot, and then later on acquiring a mech to fly around to places you couldn't reach and move around areas that before took you an hour to reach in minutes.

It's almost dissapointing really how fast you can travel once you can fly.

Depends on what you didn't like about XB1.

It isn’t.
Now do what you always do and dump Pyra ass and titties.

Let me tell you something user: I agree

Why are these threads protected by mods harder than trannies are protected by Kotaku?

Best girl.

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They are lovers. Discuss.

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Autism.

i see her ass in my dreams

It actually isn't, but you people will say anything to make a game about ass and titties seem like more than it is
pic fucking related

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I've never gotten a satisfactory amount of discussion

Why would you pretend to be gay?

huh

Because Pyra and Mythra.

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I love Mythra.
Rex loves both.

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>It's good because of these those 2 characters that were so bad they ruined the series and fanbase forever

Agreed, X also had the best environments and just running with no fall damage was a fucking blast.

XB2, while great, did feel like a step back in that regard.

The environments were definitely the most disappointing part of XB2 for me. Uraya and Gormott were good, and Torna in the DLC was great, but everything else was just kind of okay. I still liked the areas, but it was a noticeable step down.
I really, really hope the hiring Monolithsoft's doing for their Zelda team means there'll never be a repeat of how BOTW affected XB2's development, because it felt like XB2's area design was hurt the most by that.

It always saddens me to see the sorry state the xeno franchise has devolved into. Xenoblade Chronicles was such a great game that it absolutely boggles my mind how they managed to fuck up more and more with the next 2 installments.

One simple reason.

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Fuck your softcore porn dump let's talk about the game
Why the fuck does Chickenheart Dagmara have a massive DEF mod in Land of Challenge and how the fuck do I get rid of it

I agree, but to be fair, there are plot reasons why everyone can run at 200 sanics and fall from anywhere without a scratch in XCX.
It would not fit either 1 or 2 without changing how everything works.

Monolithsoft isn't exactly above having parts of their games be totally incongruent with the plot for the fun of it.

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>implying a bunch of robots beating the shit out of each other isn't an amazing view

It is, but the party stopping to casually chat about space elevators isn't exactly appropriate for that part of the game.

It was less about plot and more about stage design. Cliffs and pits that are deep enough to cause lethal fall damage in XC1 and 2 function as barriers where you need to find a way around, while in XCX the levels are much more open.

There's a big difference between "JRPG time being a free action" and "if these guys can run faster than a gazelle high on meth, why didn't they just run away from Morag from the get-go, she'd never catch them (among other plot points)"
I know what your point is, but the scope of the game itself would change and the "oh fuck we only have 40 people working on this game" thing would be felt even harder than it already is.

Also, given how everyone runs super fast, this also means the enemies would have a massive aggro range like they did in XCX.

I gotta admit, it's crazy such a mediocre game that's exclusive to one console has maintained threads on here but still, fuck this game and it's gate keeping bullshit.

Poor taste, but that's okay, we all have our guilty pleasures.

I just tried the battle, are you sure it's not just him always having high defense against ether attacks? I did 475 damage using an ether attack, then 26k with a physical based attack immediately after that. That seemed like a constant throughout the fight, not just a buff that activated halfway through.

Seething

go tf back

Did you actually play that one? I didn't expect much beyond the fanservice, but then I got a fun (not mindblowing, just fun) action game with an interesting story. As great as 2B's ass is, it's only a small part of the game.

You're the only one that needs to go back.

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>fuck this game and it's gate keeping bullshit.
?
I found XC2 to be quite open to newcomers to the series. XC1 kinda throws you into the deep end, expects you to tread water, and then randomly expects you to know deeper mechanics a few hours later, but XC2 does a pretty good job at drip feeding its mechanics at a rate newcomers can understand (even if it is fucking sloooow to more experienced and prepared players).

>worst game in the series by far
You never played it.

>tranny with reddit sceenshot telling ME to go back

>Tranny
Nice buzzword.

And you never played Xenogears, but we're not complaining.

Takahashi was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Let's hope the next game continues the trend.

Triggered af

You can't seem to communicate without memes.

Can someone explain to me the fucking ending with pyra/mythra returning but Pneuma not being there and the dumb as silent shit said at the end?

Like fuck i dont get it and the worst part is the lack of closure i got from that shit. Since till this fucking day i still wonder the fuck was that all about. Shit is super duper dumb if one is meant to just project whatever the fuck they want into it. Since again...the fuck. Was that the last final whatever the fuck gift the architect gave them or was that shit the whole cloud sea diapering and titans becoming land.

Will admit to have not played the dlc expansion as of yet and if that in anyway answers my questions well shit let me know and ill get to that as soon as i can. but a barring that...once again...the fuck?

>you will 100% of the time need a healer in your party to fight efficiently
>game does not tell you
>your starting blade is not a healer
Truth be told when I first played the game the lack of hand holding did put me off a bit too, but you get used to it.

I meant gate keeping as in the way the game locks you off from exploring half the time

Why would I communicate with a tranny without memes?

Hack writing, simple as that.

>Can someone explain to me the fucking ending with pyra/mythra returning but Pneuma not being there and the dumb as silent shit said at the end?
Pyra and Mythra are blades. Their core crystal was undamaged, so of course they could be reawakened from it. The Pneuma form was a power-up that came from the Conduit, and that's gone, so they can't do that anymore.
As for why they're separate at the end, it's literally just because Takahashi couldn't decide who to show at the end and instead decided 'fuck it, let's show both'. You can assume it's some kind of setup like Ursula and Beary, where one core crystal creates two entities that are still technically one blade.
The silent dialogue is most likely "Hello, Rex". Or "I'm home" in the Japanese version. There's some evidence that there were different endings where they'd keep or lose their memories based on trust values or something, but that was scrapped, and the lip movements match up better with the 'remember' dialogue in the subtitle files.

And Klaus's last gift was just him finishing up the whole plan he had for restoring the earth. Since he was dying and all that, he deactivated the cloud sea (since it was only around to clean up the land below) and sent the titans down to merge with the land (since they aren't really needed anymore either).

>More Xeno 2 chill threads
>They can't stand that Persona 5 stole their spotlight in basically everything

Thats an awful lot of assumptions in there which is what i was afraid of. Since even if it was super ultra lame it would have been nice to have an actual even throw away line in there as to how and why. Since mythra essentially made pyra and it had nothing to do with the usually core crystal adaptations shit. So fuck it all to hell then guess ill just ignore it all then since the why of it all will bother me so damn much then....fuck....shit game simply cause of that lame ass ending i swear.

Because you just know the team had fun working on it, it just shows. It's not an asinine product out of a boring AAA factory. It does have soul, literally.

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The team did, but Takahashi certainly didn't.

They deserve to have Personachads laugh at them.

yeah but there were a lot of assets that were outsourced right? somebody said rare blade models, and obviously most blade designs weren't done in-house

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You are literally calling people bronies every thread, go away Andrew.

I was waiting for you, Number 1 fan.
Why were you so late this time?

they outsourced to make up for the people working on botw
he's said multiple times that he doesn't give a shit if he's being hypocritical or not, why are you still replying?

I wonder how much people from Monolith will work on BotW2 this time. I hoped Nintendo only needed Monolith as a kick-start for the first BotW, and then could work on their own, but it doesn't seem like it

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>Xenogears
Horrendously overrated game.Platforming is garbage, combat is boring at best and a fucking cumbersome mess at worst, and the story is baby's intro to philosophy anime tier. I played through the game during the PS1's lifetime and it was merely ok then, and it's aged like shit. It's FF7 for hipsters.

The fact that they're hiring people for Zelda specifically is good, at least. Hopefully that means they won't have to tap into the Xenoblade staff again.

Why the fuck people says that the next zelda is BoTW2? Where the fuck they said is a direct sequel?

>Direct sequel
I think people are more expecting it'll be a mechanical sequel than a story one. 'BOTW 2' is just the easiest shorthand until it gets an actual name.

Just call it next zelda, are they assuming it will be another open world with shitty dungeons?

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Well the fact that they're bringing Monolith on again sure suggests it's going to be similar.

So was the entire blade system powered by the Conduit? Why or why not? Show your work.

How's Xenosaga? Is the second disk of Gears as bad as they say?

What? They took Monolith employees for BotW?
So that's why the armor was in BotW

I don't think so. Klaus's warning to the party wasn't 'Pyra and Mythra's power and the entire blade system will stop working when the Conduit leaves', it was just that they wouldn't be able to use the third form anymore. And the way they come back after the ending shows that core crystals can still be resonated with and all.
But then again, that asshole didn't feel like mentioning that the whole fucking station was going to fall, so who knows.

That seems most likely. Plus the blades are meant to essentially be a new form of life, not just part of an elaborate C2 network for him up on the space station.

There was nothing to ruin.

I guess the problem I have with that is that it implies that there was nothing particularly special about the trinity cores and he only used them because they happened to be lying around.

God I love Perun and Dahlia

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The problem I have is that fucking Araki Forgot-tier hook. Where is the third core? Seriously.

They're special, but more for their capability within the Blade network as super advanced core crystals, probably due to their original purpose as super important computers. The stuff involving the Conduit and Aeon seems more incidental than integral.
Probably XB1.

>Where is the third?
You are kidding, right?

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I'm still happy that I called it when Shulk became a DLC blade. To be fair, I misjudged Corvin's outline as Shulk's, but w/e

user, it's obviously Alvis in XC1

It's largely assumed the third core was __Alvis__.

>The stuff involving the Conduit and Aeon seems more incidental than integral.
Yeah but again that really annoys me because it really undermines some of the themes and symbolism going on. Plus it's just not good storytelling in general to have something so foundational to the lore/world amount to basically an accident.

How does that imply they aren't special? The game makes it incredibly clear that they are.

Nia is best cat!

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Different user here but xenogears sucks. There are a dozen better /vr/ rpgs. I'm not really sure what the hype is about. Gave up on it when I was a kid then revisited it to complete it as an adult. It's not good.

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And I played Xenogears, and I'm complaining.
'You can't have an opinion on X unless you've done 30 games of homework' is a bullshit argument. You might have more perspective on XB2 if you've played XG, XS and XB1/X before it, but those aren't required for you to form your own opinion on it.

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The main thing that makes them special is their connection to the Conduit. But if the blade system wasn't actually using the power of the Conduit, the master blades theoretically could've been anything; there'd be no reason Klaus had to use the trinity cores in particular.

Godamn. I thought Dahlia was the ice queen then I accidentally rolled Perun and now I'm crushing hard on both of them. Criminally underrated Perun is

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I feel the same. XC1 was a start to a great series. But then it just didn’t happen.

The pirate sisters need more incest yuri porn. Tired of beating it to a badly drawn doujin with more Floren than pussy.

i want x2 so fucking bad

I see your complaint, but personally at least it doesn't seem like an issue. He still probably had to use them because they were the only devices on hand capable of doing what he needed, I don't think it needs the extra layer of 'these are literally the only objects that could have ever done this because of what is essentially magic'.

I understand the intent behind the gacha system, but I really hope they learned their lesson from player feedback. It was a poor decision in the end.

That's not Meleph
Nia comes close tho

Gacha system could have been done differently. Looking back I found it fun once it was over, but honestly I don't have a better idea.

I have a Praxis X Theory pic, but you probably won’t like the focus.

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Is it foot shit?

Maybe...

Someone has prototype Ursula artbook page? Artist says that she (?) Made this based on one of her proto designs.

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That means yes, I take it.
Sorry, I've never been able to get into feet, nor do I have the desire.

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I’ll post it anyways.

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>dat Zeke bantz